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Hello and welcome to another episode
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of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
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I'm Wayne Highlander with Bona adhesives.
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You can't quit, Rob.
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You're too important to me.
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How you doing?
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Okay,
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well, get to you.
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Well, yeah,
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Yeah, that.
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Well, the devil you know.
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So.
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All right.
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I appreciate you asking me, Rob.
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Not too good, to be honest with you.
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Well, a little bit annoyed.
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I forgot that I had.
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I had an annual checkup today.
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You remind me last night. I love the way.
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Do you mind me like 7:00 in Asia?
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Will you remember?
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We have doctors warning me, don't you?
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Well, no, I never remember.
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I have a doctor's appointment,
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and so I had a doctor's appointment
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at 8 a.m.,
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so I leave the house at 630 probably,
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and then get there
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and had to wait on her
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because she was with another
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another guy for I don't know how long.
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So another 30 minutes waiting there.
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And I drove all the way there,
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an hour and a half there to have her
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stick a finger in my butt
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and tell me that I need
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to lose some weight.
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I could have done that on Tinder.
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And have to.
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I didn't have to drive all the way there.
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And you know Let me ask you a question.
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So you didn't know
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you had a doctor's appointment
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know I don't put it in.
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Yes.
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Yes,
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I.
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Yes, she said I.
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that's your wife on there. Hi.
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Is that you?
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Your You're.
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Right.
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Yeah, but it up there again.
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It probably.
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Yeah. She is beautiful.
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She's inside now.
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me write this down
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all my, all my.
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Listen.
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Yeah.
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Get out of here. 65.
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That's a little bit out there.
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You 64.
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Yeah.
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This are all
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my work point
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is duties fault.
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If she had not gotten in the habit
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of taking care of me,
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I would take care of myself.
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Yes, well,
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thank you.
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All right.
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Rob, I.
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You know, it's that time of year again.
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And we're going to talk about good
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gaps and cracks in hardwood floors.
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And this is the coldest it's
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been since I've been in Tennessee,
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about level two
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that I remember that
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I've been here about 11, 12 years now.
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And I'm sure you probably are in
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the Beaver
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is going to start
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getting a lot of calls on
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my floor
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is are cracking and moving and gaps
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and what's going on with my floors right.
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are getting calls to at the bone
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attack, like.
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You are
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as you sound out any any it's
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this is where it is.
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Yes, he did.
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Actually, one of the
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my tech calls was from my
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Drastic.
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Yeah.
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Okay, let's stop right here.
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Chris.
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Let's take that whole story out.
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Now, wait a minute.
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The better
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nailing pattern can go to that bend.
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And because if you're a consumer
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listening to this,
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like we just didn't do our
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our customers any a service right there
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because they might be thinking, well,
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maybe it's my guy's nailing pattern.
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Maybe he got to go in
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and take the with this,
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they'll know.
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okay.
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Yes.
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But we wanted to be able to share
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with our customers too,
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if they have cracks.
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I'm so far ahead of my
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my brain in my brain is so fast.
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I thought you was going to say,
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Ellen, but. Okay. All right.
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All right.
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Well, we can talk about that, but
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I don't know
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that I'm can see
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I don't know where
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you want to start at now,
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because I think
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you screwed the whole thing up
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when you did that, because now
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you just did it.
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All right,
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took, like,
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ten, minutes out of the whole thing
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this is
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okay. Okay?
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This is a great
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okay is.
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A great story.
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Yeah.
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On, on, on. Okay.
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You're you're so screwed up.
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It's crazy to me, but.
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Okay, let's just keep going.
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All right?
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You are.
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What are you going to argue about?
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Some more.
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This is how I.
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This is it.
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Well, now that you
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were, you've.
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Dropped three F-bombs,
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so that can't be in the
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in the in the show at all.
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I don't.
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I love Chris. All right.
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All right.
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All right.
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We'll get back on track then.
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That was so anyhow.
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What I was going to say is
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I don't care
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if you had the best installer
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in in the world installing your flaws.
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If you have the most
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knowledgeable floor man,
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using the best techniques, using the,
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you know, all the tools in the box
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to do a perfect floor,
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he or she cannot stop physics
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when that
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that air starts to dry out in your house
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and that humidity changes
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and the humidity shrinks,
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the floors are going to shrink, too.
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And the good news.
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Is the.
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Gaps are considered normal.
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Now, how how are they considered
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normal, Rob?
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All right,
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Wayne.
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Here are the three traits of normal
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cracks.
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Number one,
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they close in the summer.
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Number two,
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they're all about the same exact size.
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they
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that's normal.
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And that's that's normal.
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That's not by your standards
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and my standards are.
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Billy Bob standards.
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Even.
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Even AA.
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Is a.
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Gap are considered normal.
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So I'm glad you threw
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my FEMA in there too,
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for the for the sports guys.
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You were a come from that world.
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Was that a big deal in that arena?
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Because, you know,
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some of these gyms are so big,
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it's it's impossible to try to maintain.
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And the the level that we're looking for
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where a floor won't move too much
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is relative humidity of 35 to Yeah.
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right.
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I can't remember.
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yeah,
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You know, so.
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And I've said it before
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my floor
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is that there's one room in our house
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that is hotter than the other rooms,
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and Julie likes it
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much harder than I do.
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I'm always, I'm always hot
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and she's always cold.
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And that one room we watch TV
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for whatever reason that.
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I know the reason that the
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the floors in there
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shrink more than any other room
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in the house.
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All the other floors in my house.
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Really not much shrinkage or anything,
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but that room. It definitely does.
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And I, I built a table that I had.
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I was in a warehouse in, in Memphis,
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and there was like four really
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there were 12 inch wide,
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three quarter inch,
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maybe an inch will inch thick boards.
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They're horizontal.
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And long story short,
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I made it table top out
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and it was beautiful.
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Yes, I'm
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going to make that
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in my second career up.
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Yes I have side hustle building tables.
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No,
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no.
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Actually, there is. There is.
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No, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, but that, that stain that,
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that table really dark
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and I put it together
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with biscuit
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with a biscuit joiner
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and it's moved so much
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now that I can actually look down
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one of the cracks
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and I can see the bit
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where the biscuits are.
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we didn't really have
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the all the extremes
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humidity, wild extremes
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that they have back here, back east.
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years ago say, yeah,
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when we do the like it made before,
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we're going to stay in the maple
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for that.
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Before we do that,
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we stain the tongues
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and grooves or whatever
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in case the floor moves,
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anticipating the floor
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moving a little bit.
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So you look down here,
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you see those white cracks
301
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down there, right?
302
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And I said, golly,
303
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that seems out of kind of extreme.
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And we I mean, I wouldn't
305
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you know, we wouldn't do that.
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But see, right now I can see them.
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So but here's my point about that.
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Obviously, I have an
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unbelievable knowledge
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of harbor flooring.
311
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Yes.
312
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Yeah.
313
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Thank you.
314
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Yeah.
315
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Thanks. Thanks a lot, Rob.
316
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But let's say I did
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and let's say I didn't know anything
318
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about hardwood floors.
319
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I'm in the tech business
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and I had someone install those floors
321
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and install a table or whatever,
322
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and I paid $60,000 for it.
323
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And then winter comes along
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and all sudden
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I see these start noticing
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gaps in the floor.
327
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And I don't know.
328
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All I know is I've got gaps in my floors.
329
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I would be highly alarmed by that.
330
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So my point is,
331
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and that you and I always talk about
332
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this is is,
333
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you know, is having that conversation
334
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and setting the customer expectations.
335
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Right. Yeah.
336
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Absolutely.
337
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But before you say anything,
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can I say this?
339
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So I just want to forget.
340
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So I do.
341
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But much more so when I talk.
342
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But,
343
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but let's
344
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that's a much tougher conversation.
345
00:14:00,472 --> 00:14:02,708
If it was never brought up at any time
346
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in the whole process.
347
00:14:04,009 --> 00:14:05,911
But so much easier
348
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if at the beginning of the job
349
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and maybe you have something in writing,
350
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these are normal expect
351
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is blah, blah, blah
352
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and be able to present that again.
353
00:14:13,319 --> 00:14:14,520
Remember we had this conversation
354
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or whatever and blah blah, blah.
355
00:14:16,288 --> 00:14:18,190
So, so, so please.
356
00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:20,993
I, I think talking about it is okay,
357
00:14:20,993 --> 00:14:21,927
but talking about it
358
00:14:21,927 --> 00:14:24,396
and then giving them a piece of paper
359
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is even more important.
360
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Yes.
361
00:14:44,283 --> 00:14:47,186
See, I'm glad you said that because.
362
00:14:47,186 --> 00:14:49,288
Yes, we've all been told.
363
00:14:49,288 --> 00:14:51,023
Yeah, of course. On expands up and down.
364
00:14:51,023 --> 00:14:52,391
It doesn't really shrink from,
365
00:14:52,391 --> 00:14:54,927
from side to side. Right. I'm not. But
366
00:14:57,162 --> 00:14:59,598
okay, Okay.
367
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It's only about 33% less.
368
00:15:02,635 --> 00:15:05,638
okay.
369
00:15:10,142 --> 00:15:13,145
Yes.
370
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Yes.
371
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Yeah,
372
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that's such a good point
373
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because when I was younger
374
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contractor that
375
00:15:23,789 --> 00:15:24,990
well there's the answer
376
00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:26,392
gosh if it doesn't
377
00:15:26,392 --> 00:15:26,759
you know
378
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expand from side to side as much
379
00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:31,864
and just put a quarter on down.
380
00:15:31,864 --> 00:15:33,899
But I don't buy I don't buy into it.
381
00:15:33,899 --> 00:15:35,067
No part of that.
382
00:15:35,067 --> 00:15:36,535
And I don't care what they say,
383
00:15:36,535 --> 00:15:39,038
it'll move it just like planes.
384
00:15:39,038 --> 00:15:40,806
I will move now.
385
00:15:40,806 --> 00:15:43,809
like I said, it's one third or Yeah.
386
00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:48,247
Yes.
387
00:15:48,247 --> 00:15:51,250
However.
388
00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:56,255
Yeah.
389
00:15:56,255 --> 00:15:59,158
Now riffs on is more stable
390
00:15:59,158 --> 00:16:01,026
I do believe riffs on is more stable
391
00:16:01,026 --> 00:16:02,594
then than the drifting quarter.
392
00:16:02,594 --> 00:16:04,596
So the because it's.
393
00:16:04,596 --> 00:16:04,897
It's.
394
00:16:04,897 --> 00:16:07,499
The you know, it's all the same cut
395
00:16:07,499 --> 00:16:08,667
it can still move
396
00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:10,736
but it will definitely move less.
397
00:16:10,736 --> 00:16:12,671
No. Question about that.
398
00:16:12,671 --> 00:16:16,141
So let's get into some of that.
399
00:16:16,942 --> 00:16:20,112
What effects what affects the
400
00:16:20,179 --> 00:16:23,048
effects, the gap size in the floors
401
00:16:23,048 --> 00:16:23,882
And we just up.
402
00:16:25,751 --> 00:16:27,286
Okay.
403
00:16:27,286 --> 00:16:29,221
Okay. Sorry.
404
00:16:29,221 --> 00:16:29,788
Yeah.
405
00:16:29,788 --> 00:16:30,255
Yeah,
406
00:16:30,255 --> 00:16:31,991
I know you just have so much to say,
407
00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:33,625
and you can't wait to say know.
408
00:16:33,625 --> 00:16:35,661
I just I just didn't
409
00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:38,664
I just didn't anticipate it.
410
00:16:38,731 --> 00:16:40,566
Shout over me some more.
411
00:16:40,566 --> 00:16:41,834
Yeah. Yeah.
412
00:16:41,834 --> 00:16:42,835
I just moved out.
413
00:16:42,835 --> 00:16:43,969
I didn't anticipate you having.
414
00:16:43,969 --> 00:16:45,437
Anything, but I'm.
415
00:16:45,437 --> 00:16:46,872
Always surprised when you do.
416
00:16:46,872 --> 00:16:49,775
So. Please.
417
00:16:49,775 --> 00:16:50,175
Where?
418
00:16:50,175 --> 00:16:51,944
I live in the Albany area.
419
00:16:51,944 --> 00:16:52,344
Okay.
420
00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:55,347
I live just outside of Albany, New York.
421
00:16:56,048 --> 00:16:59,051
There's a lot of beach around here.
422
00:16:59,451 --> 00:17:02,454
Beach.
423
00:17:04,456 --> 00:17:06,358
I was thinking
424
00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:07,693
Beach.
425
00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:08,260
Yeah.
426
00:17:08,260 --> 00:17:10,529
See?
427
00:17:10,529 --> 00:17:13,532
All right, All right.
428
00:17:30,716 --> 00:17:33,719
Yeah.
429
00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:38,557
okay.
430
00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:39,591
talking about the rift
431
00:17:39,591 --> 00:17:40,726
in the courtyard and stuff.
432
00:17:40,726 --> 00:17:43,095
So I just wanted to throw that out there,
433
00:17:43,095 --> 00:17:45,197
especially for the people who live around
434
00:17:45,197 --> 00:17:45,831
where I live.
435
00:17:45,831 --> 00:17:48,600
We do run into a lot of beach.
436
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,168
Okay.
437
00:17:49,168 --> 00:17:50,736
So it's interesting, I
438
00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:53,138
we rarely had beach.
439
00:17:53,138 --> 00:17:54,440
Flooring.
440
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,409
Where we lived, and it is notoriously,
441
00:17:58,377 --> 00:17:58,877
you know.
442
00:17:58,877 --> 00:18:02,114
We.
443
00:18:02,114 --> 00:18:05,117
Call it the most immediately stable.
444
00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:10,923
Yes.
445
00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:11,190
Yeah.
446
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:12,991
Thank you so and so.
447
00:18:12,991 --> 00:18:13,826
But that comes
448
00:18:13,826 --> 00:18:15,694
to the point of species, right?
449
00:18:15,694 --> 00:18:17,129
I mean, we talked about the quarters
450
00:18:17,129 --> 00:18:18,130
on the cut of the wood
451
00:18:18,130 --> 00:18:19,531
can definitely make a difference
452
00:18:19,531 --> 00:18:20,833
or make somewhat of a difference,
453
00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:21,333
I believe
454
00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,001
not as much as
455
00:18:23,001 --> 00:18:24,970
you know, sometimes we believe it to be,
456
00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:27,206
but definitely the
457
00:18:27,206 --> 00:18:28,407
the species of wood definitely
458
00:18:28,407 --> 00:18:30,342
can make a big difference on it.
459
00:18:30,342 --> 00:18:35,214
So the other thing that can affect the
460
00:18:35,214 --> 00:18:37,015
the Gap appearance is
461
00:18:37,015 --> 00:18:40,018
I talked about staining the wood.
462
00:18:40,085 --> 00:18:43,088
You know, sometimes
463
00:18:43,222 --> 00:18:44,123
lighter species
464
00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:44,890
or whatever
465
00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:45,958
the darkness of the species
466
00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:46,558
can make a difference
467
00:18:46,558 --> 00:18:47,392
on how the gaps look.
468
00:18:47,392 --> 00:18:50,462
Because if you have a gap for this maple
469
00:18:51,497 --> 00:18:53,265
that really tends to show up
470
00:18:53,265 --> 00:18:54,199
gaps big time.
471
00:18:54,199 --> 00:18:55,300
So like a piano keys, right?
472
00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:57,169
Because it's such a blond wood
473
00:18:57,169 --> 00:18:59,705
and you see that one move and, and,
474
00:18:59,705 --> 00:19:02,407
and that is highly noticeable sometimes.
475
00:19:02,407 --> 00:19:02,774
Yeah.
476
00:19:02,774 --> 00:19:05,077
We've painted gym floors,
477
00:19:05,077 --> 00:19:05,377
you know,
478
00:19:05,377 --> 00:19:06,612
solid paint, the keys
479
00:19:06,612 --> 00:19:08,380
and things like that.
480
00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:10,816
Dark black, navy, blue, whatever.
481
00:19:10,816 --> 00:19:13,819
And then when that crack opens up, yeah
482
00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:18,056
it
483
00:19:18,056 --> 00:19:20,926
you.
484
00:19:20,926 --> 00:19:22,094
Know, I was just going to say
485
00:19:22,094 --> 00:19:22,861
you could have a
486
00:19:22,861 --> 00:19:24,463
like a more of a rustic floor
487
00:19:24,463 --> 00:19:27,466
like a, like a,
488
00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:29,835
like a face on floor.
489
00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:30,736
You know what I mean.
490
00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:33,205
And, and have kind of a darker floor
491
00:19:33,205 --> 00:19:35,174
with fairly, fairly, you know,
492
00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:36,842
gapping or whatever,
493
00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:39,912
not be that nearly as objectionable
494
00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:41,513
as say a maple floor
495
00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:44,216
that that has even smaller gaps
496
00:19:44,216 --> 00:19:45,517
just because
497
00:19:45,517 --> 00:19:46,552
there's a difference in the wood
498
00:19:46,552 --> 00:19:47,853
and whatever in the colors
499
00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:48,554
there really does
500
00:19:48,554 --> 00:19:49,421
make a bit of a difference.
501
00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:53,058
So I'm glad
502
00:19:53,058 --> 00:19:54,226
we're talking about color
503
00:19:54,226 --> 00:19:56,094
because I'm going to
504
00:19:56,094 --> 00:19:58,130
I'm going to tell everybody a story.
505
00:19:58,130 --> 00:20:01,133
And hopefully you learn from this story.
506
00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:04,036
Okay. Peter and I did.
507
00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:05,804
This is back in the eighties
508
00:20:05,804 --> 00:20:08,607
and we did a white stain job, about a 900
509
00:20:08,607 --> 00:20:11,643
foot job in Albany, and we killed it.
510
00:20:11,677 --> 00:20:13,979
It looked awesome.
511
00:20:13,979 --> 00:20:14,746
Okay.
512
00:20:14,746 --> 00:20:17,282
Beautiful. Perfect.
513
00:20:17,282 --> 00:20:18,116
We got paid.
514
00:20:18,116 --> 00:20:20,485
Everything was great.
515
00:20:20,485 --> 00:20:23,488
But like I said, this was done in July.
516
00:20:24,523 --> 00:20:27,793
I got a call from her in February,
517
00:20:28,594 --> 00:20:29,328
and she's like,
518
00:20:29,328 --> 00:20:31,063
There's streaks everywhere.
519
00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:33,865
There's black streaks everywhere.
520
00:20:33,865 --> 00:20:35,801
Now,
521
00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:38,403
just over your shoulder,
522
00:20:38,403 --> 00:20:41,406
you see the color of that molding
523
00:20:41,473 --> 00:20:44,209
in your house there.
524
00:20:44,209 --> 00:20:44,743
Turn around.
525
00:20:44,743 --> 00:20:46,478
Look
526
00:20:46,478 --> 00:20:49,481
And white molding.
527
00:20:49,748 --> 00:20:51,516
Yeah that's a.
528
00:20:51,516 --> 00:20:54,519
It's an antique armoire.
529
00:20:58,423 --> 00:20:59,124
It's a curtain.
530
00:21:05,797 --> 00:21:06,231
Well, you.
531
00:21:06,231 --> 00:21:09,234
Look at it, it's a chair.
532
00:21:10,636 --> 00:21:13,639
Yes, yes.
533
00:21:16,808 --> 00:21:18,010
For the listeners, it's more of a
534
00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:19,177
kind of like a medium brown
535
00:21:19,177 --> 00:21:22,180
kind of color.
536
00:21:25,684 --> 00:21:28,687
Okay.
537
00:21:31,890 --> 00:21:34,893
Yeah.
538
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:13,765
And thank thank.
539
00:22:13,765 --> 00:22:16,768
Thanks for clearing that up.
540
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:29,341
Yep,
541
00:23:52,063 --> 00:23:55,033
yep.
542
00:23:59,237 --> 00:24:00,739
And to your point,
543
00:24:00,739 --> 00:24:03,041
I was talking to what I said.
544
00:24:03,041 --> 00:24:03,842
It was at a hockey game.
545
00:24:03,842 --> 00:24:04,810
I was with a.
546
00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:06,044
A.
547
00:24:06,044 --> 00:24:07,479
Decorator, interior designer,
548
00:24:07,479 --> 00:24:08,180
and she said,
549
00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,415
we are 100% going away from the great
550
00:24:10,415 --> 00:24:12,317
and we're going into the natural colors
551
00:24:12,317 --> 00:24:13,318
and the reason for that.
552
00:24:13,318 --> 00:24:16,221
She said, is because a covered
553
00:24:16,221 --> 00:24:17,122
people were sitting there
554
00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:17,856
in their houses
555
00:24:17,856 --> 00:24:19,591
with those gray floors and it's kind of,
556
00:24:19,591 --> 00:24:21,593
you know, more depressing or whatever.
557
00:24:21,593 --> 00:24:22,360
And then they want to
558
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:24,329
light the three floors
559
00:24:24,329 --> 00:24:26,731
and and so they want they
560
00:24:26,731 --> 00:24:28,567
you know, that's kind of the look now.
561
00:24:28,567 --> 00:24:31,102
So it's, you know.
562
00:24:31,102 --> 00:24:31,603
It's coming.
563
00:24:34,005 --> 00:24:36,975
Yeah, yeah.
564
00:24:39,778 --> 00:24:42,013
Wow.
565
00:24:42,013 --> 00:24:44,616
I remember her
566
00:24:44,616 --> 00:24:45,016
peach.
567
00:24:45,016 --> 00:24:45,650
So I said, well,
568
00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:46,718
I'll get somebody
569
00:24:46,718 --> 00:24:47,352
to come out
570
00:24:47,352 --> 00:24:47,986
and, you know,
571
00:24:47,986 --> 00:24:50,388
inspect and blah, blah, blah.
572
00:24:50,388 --> 00:24:52,023
And this was like
573
00:24:52,023 --> 00:24:53,124
I said, it was like February.
574
00:24:53,124 --> 00:24:55,227
And so Pete
575
00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:56,394
now driving away, and he goes,
576
00:24:56,394 --> 00:24:57,562
What the hell are we going to do?
577
00:24:57,562 --> 00:25:00,565
We can't afford to replace
578
00:25:09,808 --> 00:25:12,277
Yep,
579
00:25:12,277 --> 00:25:15,280
yep.
580
00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:19,184
It
581
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,422
Yeah, yep,
582
00:25:24,422 --> 00:25:27,425
yep,
583
00:25:28,293 --> 00:25:31,296
yeah, yeah.
584
00:25:31,997 --> 00:25:35,000
And
585
00:25:44,109 --> 00:25:45,844
wow.
586
00:25:45,844 --> 00:25:49,981
Well, After that, after that,
587
00:25:50,715 --> 00:25:52,918
everybody got a lecture
588
00:25:52,918 --> 00:25:54,319
and I would take it,
589
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:56,888
you know, everybody got the lecture
590
00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:59,424
during the estimates and everything,
591
00:25:59,424 --> 00:26:00,492
but I wish I had taken it
592
00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:03,461
a step further and given them something
593
00:26:03,461 --> 00:26:06,298
Yeah,
594
00:26:06,298 --> 00:26:09,301
yeah, yeah.
595
00:26:09,334 --> 00:26:09,534
yeah.
596
00:26:09,534 --> 00:26:10,368
Sometimes the lessons
597
00:26:10,368 --> 00:26:11,102
we learned, we learned,
598
00:26:11,102 --> 00:26:12,971
we learned the hard way, you know?
599
00:26:12,971 --> 00:26:15,373
And
600
00:26:15,373 --> 00:26:15,974
we talked about
601
00:26:15,974 --> 00:26:17,008
the width of the boards too.
602
00:26:17,008 --> 00:26:17,976
Can make a big difference.
603
00:26:17,976 --> 00:26:19,210
I mean, a five inch board
604
00:26:19,210 --> 00:26:20,745
will shrink twice as much as a two
605
00:26:20,745 --> 00:26:22,147
and a quarter inch board.
606
00:26:22,147 --> 00:26:23,515
So rather than small,
607
00:26:23,515 --> 00:26:24,416
we have a lot of more
608
00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:25,884
like small hairline gaps.
609
00:26:25,884 --> 00:26:27,252
We may not even notice.
610
00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:27,986
You have a tendency
611
00:26:27,986 --> 00:26:30,255
sometimes have just bigger gaps
612
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:32,724
and sometimes it becomes more noticeable
613
00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:34,893
and
614
00:26:34,893 --> 00:26:35,961
the whole
615
00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:37,262
the whole answer to
616
00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:39,197
this is adding humidity. Right.
617
00:26:39,197 --> 00:26:40,966
And that's that's bringing more.
618
00:26:40,966 --> 00:26:43,401
And it's interesting to me because
619
00:26:43,401 --> 00:26:44,336
sometimes you look at a floor
620
00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:45,670
is really gapped out.
621
00:26:45,670 --> 00:26:46,538
The first thing I kind of do
622
00:26:46,538 --> 00:26:48,406
is I start looking at the quarters on the
623
00:26:48,406 --> 00:26:51,042
at the very called the
624
00:26:51,042 --> 00:26:53,612
crown molding, crown molding
625
00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:56,481
the doors and other things
626
00:26:56,481 --> 00:26:57,449
that are moving cabinets
627
00:26:57,449 --> 00:26:58,550
that have kind of gap tablets.
628
00:26:58,550 --> 00:26:59,784
Nobody seems to really notice them
629
00:26:59,784 --> 00:27:00,752
as much as they do the floor.
630
00:27:00,752 --> 00:27:00,952
Right.
631
00:27:00,952 --> 00:27:01,653
And always looking up
632
00:27:01,653 --> 00:27:02,654
at the crown molding.
633
00:27:02,654 --> 00:27:05,657
And you certainly.
634
00:27:06,191 --> 00:27:08,226
Get, you know, the the.
635
00:27:08,226 --> 00:27:11,229
no, no, no, no, no, no.
636
00:27:11,896 --> 00:27:12,330
No.
637
00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:14,199
I don't I don't as I would
638
00:27:14,199 --> 00:27:15,200
say, you certainly know the
639
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,134
I don't have to tell you,
640
00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:19,137
you're preaching to the choir.
641
00:27:21,506 --> 00:27:24,509
But you think I'm going to say,
642
00:27:26,444 --> 00:27:27,912
So the other thing
643
00:27:27,912 --> 00:27:29,280
that's kind of interesting to me is like,
644
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,714
you know, okay,
645
00:27:29,714 --> 00:27:31,850
so we see a lot of engineered floors
646
00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:33,451
now in the industry, right?
647
00:27:33,451 --> 00:27:36,054
And a lot of the reason the folks like Go
648
00:27:36,054 --> 00:27:37,722
the Engineered Floor is because the
649
00:27:37,722 --> 00:27:38,590
the notion that they're
650
00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:39,457
more dominantly stable.
651
00:27:40,992 --> 00:27:41,960
So but that.
652
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,961
That's.
653
00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:45,964
Not always case.
654
00:28:00,412 --> 00:28:04,582
So I put in an engineered floor
655
00:28:05,283 --> 00:28:07,352
because, you know, the heat is crazy
656
00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:09,187
in one part of the house with a fireplace
657
00:28:09,187 --> 00:28:10,221
and it's cold in the other
658
00:28:10,221 --> 00:28:11,656
and brought it out of there.
659
00:28:11,656 --> 00:28:14,359
And he was telling me, can't believe
660
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,362
how much is engineered Floor shrunk
661
00:28:18,129 --> 00:28:20,265
because of him
662
00:28:20,265 --> 00:28:23,268
not being able to maintain
663
00:28:23,902 --> 00:28:26,905
Yeah.
664
00:28:38,083 --> 00:28:41,086
Yep, yep,
665
00:28:41,219 --> 00:28:44,222
yep.
666
00:28:48,093 --> 00:28:49,060
Well.
667
00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:50,128
Here's the other thing, too,
668
00:28:50,128 --> 00:28:53,131
is I think that in the
669
00:28:53,298 --> 00:28:54,866
I get my
670
00:28:54,866 --> 00:28:55,633
I know at the end of it
671
00:28:55,633 --> 00:28:56,334
they would say on this,
672
00:28:56,334 --> 00:28:56,668
I think
673
00:28:56,668 --> 00:28:58,136
I'll just say
674
00:28:58,136 --> 00:28:59,804
what my experience has been.
675
00:28:59,804 --> 00:29:02,073
I engineered floors.
676
00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:03,174
Well there's a couple things.
677
00:29:03,174 --> 00:29:04,209
One is like
678
00:29:04,209 --> 00:29:05,443
you know you can make spaghetti,
679
00:29:05,443 --> 00:29:06,745
you make a world class spaghetti.
680
00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:08,113
You do that recipe, you say,
681
00:29:08,113 --> 00:29:09,280
yes, it's phenomenal.
682
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,849
And I can make spaghetti,
683
00:29:10,849 --> 00:29:12,050
which is going to be terrible.
684
00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:13,518
But they're both spaghetti,
685
00:29:13,518 --> 00:29:14,119
you know what I mean?
686
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:15,286
There's engineered floors.
687
00:29:15,286 --> 00:29:15,720
Doesn't mean
688
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,355
every engineered floor is built the same.
689
00:29:17,355 --> 00:29:18,189
There are good ones in there.
690
00:29:18,189 --> 00:29:18,556
Bad ones,
691
00:29:18,556 --> 00:29:20,291
just like everything else, right?
692
00:29:20,291 --> 00:29:22,193
Yeah. They. They for what you get.
693
00:29:22,193 --> 00:29:24,095
And also engineered floors,
694
00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:26,564
if you're outside the
695
00:29:26,564 --> 00:29:28,533
moisture limits
696
00:29:28,533 --> 00:29:30,335
or the moisture is a little too high.
697
00:29:30,335 --> 00:29:32,704
Engineered floors handle that better.
698
00:29:32,704 --> 00:29:34,439
That's the solid four
699
00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:36,241
I think that's fair to say.
700
00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:36,975
But when you.
701
00:29:36,975 --> 00:29:39,544
Get a.
702
00:29:39,544 --> 00:29:41,646
Too little moisture
703
00:29:41,646 --> 00:29:42,914
some engineer for is don't handle
704
00:29:42,914 --> 00:29:43,815
that near as good
705
00:29:43,815 --> 00:29:44,682
he can get face
706
00:29:44,682 --> 00:29:45,984
checking issues and stuff like that.
707
00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:46,985
Right.
708
00:29:46,985 --> 00:29:48,353
And that's why
709
00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:49,587
I think some manufacturers
710
00:29:49,587 --> 00:29:50,355
will disguise it.
711
00:29:50,355 --> 00:29:50,755
We're like,
712
00:29:50,755 --> 00:29:51,823
if you do like
713
00:29:51,823 --> 00:29:53,491
we call a wire
714
00:29:53,491 --> 00:29:54,125
brush floor
715
00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:55,126
and there's, you know,
716
00:29:55,126 --> 00:29:55,727
there's ways
717
00:29:55,727 --> 00:29:56,594
you can kind of disguise
718
00:29:56,594 --> 00:29:58,096
that look a little bit.
719
00:29:58,096 --> 00:29:59,164
But but, you know,
720
00:29:59,164 --> 00:30:00,532
that becomes an issue now.
721
00:30:00,532 --> 00:30:02,367
So don't think that,
722
00:30:02,367 --> 00:30:02,801
for instance,
723
00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:04,169
I know
724
00:30:04,169 --> 00:30:06,738
some species of of engineered floors.
725
00:30:06,738 --> 00:30:08,473
You put them in the Rocky Mountains.
726
00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:09,107
And.
727
00:30:09,107 --> 00:30:10,675
God help you,
728
00:30:10,675 --> 00:30:10,909
you know,
729
00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:11,876
I mean, you can get face
730
00:30:11,876 --> 00:30:13,178
shaking issues and stuff like that.
731
00:30:13,178 --> 00:30:13,978
It's a whole different,
732
00:30:13,978 --> 00:30:16,981
a whole different set of of challenges.
733
00:30:17,081 --> 00:30:19,784
So this whole dry yeah.
734
00:30:19,784 --> 00:30:21,352
So we're in that instance,
735
00:30:21,352 --> 00:30:23,321
some guys won't put an engineered floors
736
00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:24,255
in that environment.
737
00:30:24,255 --> 00:30:25,423
They'll go more like they put.
738
00:30:25,423 --> 00:30:27,725
A solid floor.
739
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:30,028
But again, it's all
740
00:30:30,028 --> 00:30:33,031
comes down to customer expectations.
741
00:30:36,768 --> 00:30:38,036
environmental
742
00:30:38,036 --> 00:30:41,039
interior environmental control you do,
743
00:30:41,306 --> 00:30:44,309
the worse your gapping is going to be.
744
00:30:44,776 --> 00:30:46,444
And like you said, you know, we're
745
00:30:46,444 --> 00:30:47,846
both laughing because you go, yeah,
746
00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:49,881
I live off grid.
747
00:30:49,881 --> 00:30:51,482
So,
748
00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:51,916
you know,
749
00:30:51,916 --> 00:30:53,885
I don't have any control over anything.
750
00:30:53,885 --> 00:30:54,652
I was like, Yeah.
751
00:30:54,652 --> 00:30:57,755
And but he thought the answer to his life
752
00:30:57,755 --> 00:30:58,356
was going to be
753
00:30:58,356 --> 00:30:59,490
put in an engineered floor.
754
00:30:59,490 --> 00:31:01,226
And because it's never going to move
755
00:31:01,226 --> 00:31:04,229
because some engineered floor
756
00:31:04,929 --> 00:31:06,698
So
757
00:31:06,698 --> 00:31:08,299
it's interesting to me too
758
00:31:08,299 --> 00:31:09,701
that in the wintertime
759
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:10,768
one of the challenges yet
760
00:31:10,768 --> 00:31:11,836
you know we want that
761
00:31:11,836 --> 00:31:13,238
you said at the beginning of the show
762
00:31:13,238 --> 00:31:16,474
at 35 to 55, our age is where
763
00:31:16,474 --> 00:31:18,042
we want the floors to be
764
00:31:18,042 --> 00:31:18,910
for the health of the floor
765
00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:20,612
and everything. Yeah.
766
00:31:20,612 --> 00:31:22,146
So when your window manufacturers
767
00:31:22,146 --> 00:31:24,549
will tell you much less than that
768
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:26,084
and what they're concerned about
769
00:31:26,084 --> 00:31:28,753
is the condensation on the windows.
770
00:31:28,753 --> 00:31:29,888
You see the
771
00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:31,689
the sweaty windows
772
00:31:31,689 --> 00:31:33,524
and this type of thing.
773
00:31:33,524 --> 00:31:34,659
Right. In the wintertime.
774
00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:43,568
Okay.
775
00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:44,836
That was crazy.
776
00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:47,839
Yeah,
777
00:31:59,384 --> 00:32:02,387
Yeah.
778
00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:20,438
Well,
779
00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:23,441
and
780
00:32:33,851 --> 00:32:36,854
yeah,
781
00:32:46,364 --> 00:32:47,465
Wow.
782
00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:49,600
It's it's such a challenge
783
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,768
in the design of a house.
784
00:32:50,768 --> 00:32:52,236
And by the way, these aren't
785
00:32:52,236 --> 00:32:53,171
the fix on these
786
00:32:53,171 --> 00:32:55,573
things aren't a hardwood floor, guys.
787
00:32:55,573 --> 00:32:57,709
It's not a harder for guys job
788
00:32:57,709 --> 00:32:59,010
to fix all these things.
789
00:32:59,010 --> 00:33:02,013
You know, the, you know, your HBC and
790
00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:03,514
that goes into a home.
791
00:33:03,514 --> 00:33:05,683
The design that goes into the home,
792
00:33:05,683 --> 00:33:08,119
the the the windows and then the
793
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:08,753
what do you use
794
00:33:08,753 --> 00:33:10,054
the dual pane windows
795
00:33:10,054 --> 00:33:11,155
or all these different things.
796
00:33:11,155 --> 00:33:14,993
And we try to use windows that protect
797
00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:15,893
the RH and everything.
798
00:33:15,893 --> 00:33:16,361
Those are it's
799
00:33:16,361 --> 00:33:17,362
not the job of the hardwood
800
00:33:17,362 --> 00:33:18,696
floor contractor,
801
00:33:18,696 --> 00:33:19,163
you know,
802
00:33:19,163 --> 00:33:20,365
I mean we have to deal with
803
00:33:20,365 --> 00:33:21,766
those type of the fallout of that.
804
00:33:21,766 --> 00:33:23,001
But that's really not the,
805
00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:24,202
you know, that's the builder.
806
00:33:24,202 --> 00:33:27,538
And as other other conversations and
807
00:33:28,072 --> 00:33:29,574
the AC guy and everything
808
00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:31,676
and adding a humidifier or
809
00:33:31,676 --> 00:33:34,145
look to the builder who told in the home
810
00:33:34,145 --> 00:33:35,546
he also knows the challenges
811
00:33:35,546 --> 00:33:36,280
he knows by now
812
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,248
if he's experienced builder
813
00:33:37,248 --> 00:33:38,616
that in the wintertime
814
00:33:38,616 --> 00:33:40,118
that these could be but
815
00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,754
but you know so adding
816
00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:44,422
a humidifier should be on his bucket
817
00:33:44,422 --> 00:33:46,457
list of things to do when you think
818
00:33:46,457 --> 00:33:48,860
but it always comes down to the floor guy
819
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:51,529
was really unfair to the floor guy. So
820
00:33:57,702 --> 00:34:00,705
wow
821
00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:10,214
yep
822
00:34:13,484 --> 00:34:15,686
interesting
823
00:34:15,686 --> 00:34:16,754
and I think I turned it.
824
00:34:16,754 --> 00:34:19,724
I said, I think I turned it up to 55,
825
00:34:20,792 --> 00:34:23,327
so it will kick off after 55 or whatever.
826
00:34:23,327 --> 00:34:25,029
We had a pretty good dehumidifier now,
827
00:34:25,029 --> 00:34:29,133
but I was just blown away in that graph.
828
00:34:29,167 --> 00:34:30,201
Okay.
829
00:34:30,201 --> 00:34:31,569
So what the graph was that
830
00:34:31,569 --> 00:34:32,203
he sent me, it
831
00:34:32,203 --> 00:34:35,306
said, if your outdoor temp is 40 degrees,
832
00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:36,774
your indoor
833
00:34:36,774 --> 00:34:39,777
relative humidity should be 45.
834
00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:41,746
And then it went down from there.
835
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:44,749
So outside temp is 30.
836
00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:47,752
Indoor relative humidity is 40.
837
00:34:47,752 --> 00:34:50,154
The other night I went to bed
838
00:34:50,154 --> 00:34:51,889
and it was outside.
839
00:34:51,889 --> 00:34:53,791
It was -12.
840
00:34:53,791 --> 00:34:57,128
So the indoor relative humidity
841
00:34:57,395 --> 00:34:58,963
should have been around
842
00:34:58,963 --> 00:35:01,099
15 to 20, which I was like,
843
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:02,834
I don't know how much of this graph
844
00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:03,835
I'm going to you know,
845
00:35:03,835 --> 00:35:04,802
I don't know how low
846
00:35:05,803 --> 00:35:08,806
yeah
847
00:35:19,817 --> 00:35:21,052
yeah.
848
00:35:21,052 --> 00:35:24,055
This is moisturizer.
849
00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:26,591
I know.
850
00:35:26,591 --> 00:35:29,594
Good.
851
00:35:29,594 --> 00:35:32,430
no,
852
00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:34,365
you shouldn't.
853
00:35:34,365 --> 00:35:34,699
You should.
854
00:35:34,699 --> 00:35:37,702
You shouldn't use moisturizer.
855
00:35:38,236 --> 00:35:39,070
Good. Yes.
856
00:35:39,070 --> 00:35:41,506
Don't feel bad about that.
857
00:35:41,506 --> 00:35:43,574
Yeah, I think.
858
00:35:43,574 --> 00:35:44,408
Yeah, I don't either.
859
00:35:44,408 --> 00:35:47,411
It's greasy.
860
00:35:47,545 --> 00:35:48,946
No I don't either.
861
00:35:48,946 --> 00:35:50,181
Yeah.
862
00:35:50,181 --> 00:35:50,748
There's
863
00:35:50,748 --> 00:35:53,751
I think John Wayne use moisturizer.
864
00:35:54,752 --> 00:35:56,053
Now that's all.
865
00:35:56,053 --> 00:35:57,889
You that
866
00:35:57,889 --> 00:35:58,456
I worked with.
867
00:35:58,456 --> 00:36:00,024
A guy worked with a guy,
868
00:36:00,024 --> 00:36:00,791
he worked with him.
869
00:36:00,791 --> 00:36:02,493
He was from Texas
870
00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:04,395
and I think Texas, rugged
871
00:36:04,395 --> 00:36:05,863
leather leather.
872
00:36:05,863 --> 00:36:07,365
Right. Saddles.
873
00:36:07,365 --> 00:36:09,100
Cowboy boots, jeans.
874
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,903
School thing in the back pocket.
875
00:36:11,903 --> 00:36:13,838
And I seen him put
876
00:36:13,838 --> 00:36:16,841
the moisturizer on him one day
877
00:36:16,874 --> 00:36:17,475
like, Well, tell us,
878
00:36:17,475 --> 00:36:20,545
this is our moisturizer.
879
00:36:20,745 --> 00:36:21,445
yeah, I know what it is.
880
00:36:21,445 --> 00:36:23,948
What are you doing, man?
881
00:36:23,948 --> 00:36:26,350
You know, I you know.
882
00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:28,786
When I the a lot, my wife tells me
883
00:36:28,786 --> 00:36:29,787
I should.
884
00:36:29,787 --> 00:36:31,022
I said nice sunscreen.
885
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:32,089
When you do that, what do you use?
886
00:36:32,089 --> 00:36:33,124
A moisturizer. Man.
887
00:36:34,125 --> 00:36:37,094
So, you know.
888
00:36:39,397 --> 00:36:41,265
I did that too, but it.
889
00:36:41,265 --> 00:36:44,035
Was a mess. Yeah.
890
00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:45,236
I'm the same way.
891
00:36:45,236 --> 00:36:47,471
Yeah.
892
00:36:47,471 --> 00:36:49,407
All right.
893
00:36:49,407 --> 00:36:50,808
I should do.
894
00:36:50,808 --> 00:36:51,976
you should grip stuff better.
895
00:36:51,976 --> 00:36:55,413
My hands get so dry I can't grip But by.
896
00:36:55,613 --> 00:36:56,814
Excuse me.
897
00:36:56,814 --> 00:36:58,416
But if you.
898
00:36:58,416 --> 00:36:59,850
Can't make making grip stuff
899
00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:01,085
with moisturizer on his hands.
900
00:37:01,085 --> 00:37:03,454
What you talking about?
901
00:37:03,454 --> 00:37:05,790
Well, dry hands are slippery too.
902
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:08,793
They're not like moisturizer.
903
00:37:09,026 --> 00:37:11,128
We could do a Yeah.
904
00:37:11,128 --> 00:37:13,264
Okay. Anyhow.
905
00:37:13,264 --> 00:37:16,267
All right.
906
00:37:17,768 --> 00:37:18,135
Yeah.
907
00:37:18,135 --> 00:37:20,137
Use a straw that.
908
00:37:20,137 --> 00:37:21,472
Yeah, but. I won't use.
909
00:37:21,472 --> 00:37:25,543
A we call it a paper straw.
910
00:37:27,011 --> 00:37:28,246
Now I use the straw.
911
00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:28,546
Yeah.
912
00:37:28,546 --> 00:37:28,813
You know,
913
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:30,381
you just drop is drawn now
914
00:37:30,381 --> 00:37:31,882
because you know,
915
00:37:31,882 --> 00:37:33,251
I told you about my rules
916
00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:33,918
in the restaurants
917
00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:36,687
with, with glasses and stuff like that
918
00:37:36,687 --> 00:37:37,488
in a restaurant.
919
00:37:37,488 --> 00:37:39,056
There should be like a red line,
920
00:37:39,056 --> 00:37:39,724
like three quarters.
921
00:37:39,724 --> 00:37:40,958
The way up the glass, you'd be red
922
00:37:40,958 --> 00:37:41,759
line in the service.
923
00:37:41,759 --> 00:37:42,460
Shouldn't have his hand
924
00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:43,394
above that red line.
925
00:37:44,428 --> 00:37:46,731
So the red line rule that would be
926
00:37:46,731 --> 00:37:48,299
Pauline sees me use a straw,
927
00:37:48,299 --> 00:37:51,135
I'll use the straw if I'm driving,
928
00:37:51,135 --> 00:37:53,704
drinking in an iced coffee.
929
00:37:53,704 --> 00:37:56,707
okay.
930
00:37:58,476 --> 00:38:00,544
But
931
00:38:00,544 --> 00:38:01,445
you're.
932
00:38:01,445 --> 00:38:02,980
You're a real man.
933
00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:04,482
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
934
00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:06,550
That's.
935
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:08,886
Yeah,
936
00:38:08,886 --> 00:38:11,155
Everybody's different.
937
00:38:11,155 --> 00:38:12,189
Yeah. Yeah.
938
00:38:12,189 --> 00:38:15,192
There you go. Yeah.
939
00:38:15,192 --> 00:38:16,627
All right. Well, Rob.
940
00:38:16,627 --> 00:38:18,195
So the bottom line
941
00:38:18,195 --> 00:38:22,900
this caps are completely
942
00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:25,269
is going to happen.
943
00:38:25,269 --> 00:38:26,304
You get.
944
00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:29,907
you can do is preach to these people.
945
00:38:29,907 --> 00:38:32,343
And I thought I saw an end.
946
00:38:32,343 --> 00:38:36,147
WFA said no more than at ten point
947
00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:39,150
swing
948
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,022
Yeah,
949
00:38:45,022 --> 00:38:48,025
yeah,
950
00:38:48,459 --> 00:38:49,393
yeah, yeah.
951
00:38:49,393 --> 00:38:52,363
No,
952
00:38:52,363 --> 00:38:53,698
yeah.
953
00:38:53,698 --> 00:38:54,332
Yeah.
954
00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:56,067
Well, one table in my life.
955
00:38:56,067 --> 00:38:57,935
Okay.
956
00:38:57,935 --> 00:38:59,870
Yeah, but so it's going to happen.
957
00:38:59,870 --> 00:39:00,438
It is.
958
00:39:00,438 --> 00:39:00,871
Like I said,
959
00:39:00,871 --> 00:39:02,540
you could have the best hardwood floor
960
00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:04,642
man in the world do your floors.
961
00:39:04,642 --> 00:39:06,577
They cannot stop physics.
962
00:39:06,577 --> 00:39:08,579
And it happens is the.
963
00:39:08,579 --> 00:39:10,114
But here's the thing.
964
00:39:10,114 --> 00:39:11,282
I'll tell you something.
965
00:39:11,282 --> 00:39:13,184
Go to the Hearst Castle.
966
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:15,586
Go to
967
00:39:15,586 --> 00:39:18,155
What's the one in Asheville,
968
00:39:18,155 --> 00:39:20,324
North Carolina? The beautiful. Home.
969
00:39:20,324 --> 00:39:25,062
Camera.
970
00:39:25,062 --> 00:39:25,396
There it.
971
00:39:27,565 --> 00:39:28,366
Yeah.
972
00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:31,369
Yeah, I know.
973
00:39:31,869 --> 00:39:32,670
Anyhow.
974
00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:33,137
You go to
975
00:39:33,137 --> 00:39:35,339
the most magnificent homes in the world
976
00:39:35,339 --> 00:39:36,240
and look at floors
977
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,708
that have been down for 50,
978
00:39:37,708 --> 00:39:40,277
60, 100, 120 years old.
979
00:39:40,277 --> 00:39:43,013
And they have natural gaps in the floors.
980
00:39:43,013 --> 00:39:45,149
And to me it adds to the beauty,
981
00:39:45,149 --> 00:39:47,451
the esthetics of a of a floor.
982
00:39:47,451 --> 00:39:48,886
I will almost make an argument
983
00:39:48,886 --> 00:39:50,588
that I'd rather see a floor like that
984
00:39:50,588 --> 00:39:53,591
than a perfectly pristine floor.
985
00:39:53,624 --> 00:39:54,125
You know, it
986
00:39:54,125 --> 00:39:55,659
depends on the environment, of course,
987
00:39:55,659 --> 00:39:57,027
the setting that it's in,
988
00:39:57,027 --> 00:39:58,396
but that's the hardwood floor
989
00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:01,098
I talked about, worn in saddle, worn in,
990
00:40:01,098 --> 00:40:01,966
you know what I mean?
991
00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:02,500
That's just
992
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:04,068
it's just it's a natural product
993
00:40:04,068 --> 00:40:06,303
and you expect that and are stunning.
994
00:40:06,303 --> 00:40:08,272
And it happens to hardwood floors.
995
00:40:08,272 --> 00:40:10,374
You're investment in a hardwood floor.
996
00:40:10,374 --> 00:40:12,276
I mean, like I said, we see everybody
997
00:40:12,276 --> 00:40:12,710
who is listening to
998
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:14,111
the podcast has sanded floors
999
00:40:14,111 --> 00:40:15,880
that are 100 years old.
1000
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,314
Get a name, another surface
1001
00:40:17,314 --> 00:40:18,015
that you can deal with
1002
00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:19,984
that and change the core
1003
00:40:19,984 --> 00:40:22,787
to different colors, different scenes,
1004
00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:24,088
different textures.
1005
00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:25,189
There is none.
1006
00:40:25,189 --> 00:40:26,490
Hardwood floors are timeless,
1007
00:40:26,490 --> 00:40:27,758
beautiful floors.
1008
00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:28,726
I think we have to accept
1009
00:40:28,726 --> 00:40:30,194
some of the natural character
1010
00:40:30,194 --> 00:40:31,762
and beauty of those products
1011
00:40:31,762 --> 00:40:32,430
that we work with.
1012
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:33,998
They're made by nature
1013
00:40:33,998 --> 00:40:36,033
and and it's not a floor.
1014
00:40:42,406 --> 00:40:45,142
Yeah.
1015
00:40:45,142 --> 00:40:48,145
bombs interest in the whole thing was.
1016
00:40:48,345 --> 00:40:49,413
We did a floor one time
1017
00:40:49,413 --> 00:40:50,548
that was like 90 years
1018
00:40:50,548 --> 00:40:51,916
old, this maple floor
1019
00:40:51,916 --> 00:40:54,919
that was just absolutely destroyed.
1020
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,354
And
1021
00:40:57,354 --> 00:40:58,956
it really wasn't that bad.
1022
00:40:58,956 --> 00:41:01,692
When we got down, it looked like they had
1023
00:41:01,692 --> 00:41:03,127
Yeah.
1024
00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:06,130
The
1025
00:41:06,964 --> 00:41:09,967
listen,
1026
00:41:14,004 --> 00:41:15,105
they've never
1027
00:41:15,105 --> 00:41:16,974
they never been easier to take care of
1028
00:41:16,974 --> 00:41:18,642
and they're really Molly
1029
00:41:18,642 --> 00:41:20,244
there's really super in general
1030
00:41:20,244 --> 00:41:21,679
is easy to take care of
1031
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:23,247
they're they're sustainable
1032
00:41:23,247 --> 00:41:24,949
environmentally friendly.
1033
00:41:24,949 --> 00:41:27,585
It's the best service in the world
1034
00:41:27,585 --> 00:41:28,419
to live on.
1035
00:41:28,419 --> 00:41:31,255
So there you go.
1036
00:41:31,255 --> 00:41:33,691
They come and go just like the tides.
1037
00:41:33,691 --> 00:41:37,228
So you know what the gaps in close up,
1038
00:41:37,228 --> 00:41:37,695
what have you.
1039
00:41:37,695 --> 00:41:38,963
And it's really not that it's
1040
00:41:38,963 --> 00:41:40,064
not that big an issue.
1041
00:41:40,064 --> 00:41:43,000
So yes.
1042
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,101
Yeah. So
1043
00:41:45,536 --> 00:41:47,571
yeah.
1044
00:41:47,571 --> 00:41:50,107
So why did you just say that?
1045
00:41:50,107 --> 00:41:52,910
Why did you just say that.
1046
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:53,644
Yeah.
1047
00:41:53,644 --> 00:41:54,044
Because now.
1048
00:41:54,044 --> 00:41:54,645
People are going, well,
1049
00:41:54,645 --> 00:41:56,614
maybe my caps aren't. Normal, you know?
1050
00:41:56,614 --> 00:41:58,415
I mean.
1051
00:41:58,415 --> 00:41:59,116
You want to talk about
1052
00:41:59,116 --> 00:42:02,119
what a normal, not normal gap is Now.
1053
00:42:02,953 --> 00:42:03,387
Okay.
1054
00:42:03,387 --> 00:42:04,522
Thank you.
1055
00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:05,189
All right.
1056
00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:08,192
This has been another.
1057
00:42:09,727 --> 00:42:12,496
Okay, good.
1058
00:42:12,496 --> 00:42:15,065
Okay.
1059
00:42:15,065 --> 00:42:15,966
Yeah.
1060
00:42:15,966 --> 00:42:18,969
All right.
1061
00:42:20,204 --> 00:42:20,504
Well,
1062
00:42:20,504 --> 00:42:23,507
it was stupid comment and
1063
00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:28,345
we set the standard.
1064
00:42:28,345 --> 00:42:30,247
We cleared it up,
1065
00:42:30,247 --> 00:42:31,482
and then you did.
1066
00:42:31,482 --> 00:42:34,418
You did. That?
1067
00:42:34,418 --> 00:42:36,654
Yeah.
1068
00:42:36,654 --> 00:42:37,288
When you had a.
1069
00:42:37,288 --> 00:42:38,556
Kid at a dinner table,
1070
00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:40,457
like out in a restaurant.
1071
00:42:40,457 --> 00:42:43,027
Did your parents ever correct you,
1072
00:42:43,027 --> 00:42:44,662
like
1073
00:42:44,662 --> 00:42:45,930
the way it goes by?
1074
00:42:45,930 --> 00:42:48,432
You say something. Okay. Okay.
1075
00:42:48,432 --> 00:42:49,700
Okay. Okay.
1076
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:52,403
Yeah. Curious. But.
1077
00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:55,406
Okay.
1078
00:43:14,024 --> 00:43:15,826
If
1079
00:43:15,826 --> 00:43:18,829
they
1080
00:43:34,578 --> 00:43:36,513
laser it.
1081
00:43:36,513 --> 00:43:37,181
Yeah.
1082
00:43:37,181 --> 00:43:37,648
Okay.
1083
00:43:37,648 --> 00:43:40,651
Yeah.
1084
00:43:46,223 --> 00:43:49,226
Well.
1085
00:43:49,927 --> 00:43:52,930
Wow.
1086
00:43:55,866 --> 00:43:56,100
No.
1087
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:56,433
Can.
1088
00:44:00,904 --> 00:44:01,839
What were you, like,
1089
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:04,842
20, 21
1090
00:44:08,912 --> 00:44:11,281
right now?
1091
00:44:11,281 --> 00:44:13,984
Probably not. Okay.
1092
00:44:13,984 --> 00:44:16,987
Okay.
1093
00:44:18,622 --> 00:44:21,625
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1094
00:44:24,194 --> 00:44:26,296
yeah, yeah, yeah.
1095
00:44:26,296 --> 00:44:28,866
Friday.
1096
00:44:28,866 --> 00:44:29,600
Yeah.
1097
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,603
And you guys slapped down.
1098
00:44:32,770 --> 00:44:35,773
Wow.
1099
00:44:35,806 --> 00:44:37,274
Wow.
1100
00:44:37,274 --> 00:44:37,841
Putting an it
1101
00:44:37,841 --> 00:44:39,109
to that moisturizer in your hand
1102
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:40,644
before you sat down at the table.
1103
00:44:40,644 --> 00:44:43,614
Eat.
1104
00:44:43,747 --> 00:44:45,315
Yeah, yeah,
1105
00:44:45,315 --> 00:44:48,252
yeah, that's right.
1106
00:44:48,252 --> 00:44:48,652
Yeah.
1107
00:44:48,652 --> 00:44:50,654
But All right Rob.
1108
00:44:50,654 --> 00:44:51,855
Well thank you very much.
1109
00:44:51,855 --> 00:44:53,424
And I appreciate it, man.
1110
00:44:53,424 --> 00:44:55,092
I always good to see you, Rob.
1111
00:44:55,092 --> 00:44:58,062
And despite a rocky start.
1112
00:44:58,062 --> 00:45:01,065
Sir.
1113
00:45:01,065 --> 00:45:02,599
And this has been another episode
1114
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:04,334
of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob,
1115
00:45:04,334 --> 00:45:05,703
please stay tuned for another episode.