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Hello and welcome to another
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episode of On the Floor
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with Waiting Room.
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I'm Wayne Highlander,
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director of sales for Bona Adhesives.
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And I’m Rob Johnson from Bona Training.
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How you doing this morning?
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Doing fantastic, man. How you doing?
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Good good.
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I'm coming off a pretty good weekend.
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Well, actually, good and bad.
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You know,
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one of our cats, I'm
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a little bit concerned
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that might have to put it down.
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I don't want to duty to be it, but
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it lost a lot of weight.
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So that was kind of
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not good this weekend.
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So just realizing he's
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getting to be really skin and bones
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and he
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and he is the most affectionate cat
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I have ever seen in my life.
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I mean, he is a lover man.
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And when he wants affection,
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there's no turning back.
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I mean, you cannot
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not give him affection.
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And so, yeah, so all of that goes good.
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I think it's so crazy.
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You're a cat person.
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That's a
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I really say
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that I'm not I'm really a dog person.
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I really, truly am a dog person.
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I told you we took in my brother.
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My my sister in law's dog.
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I don't know.
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I told you that
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my sister in law passed away.
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And long story,
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she had a bunch of animals.
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We kept one of the dogs.
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The dogs, 14 years old, and it's
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damn near death. Okay?
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And
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it has the worst breath
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of any living creature
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I have ever been around in my life.
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You can't even be in the same room
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with it.
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It's crazy, man.
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So. So, yeah.
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No, no, It's just 14 years old,
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and I don't know.
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I'll tell you what, though.
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I've never seen an animal
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so obsessed with food in my life.
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I mean, she's thin.
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She's not like she's overweight at all.
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Although now I'm feeding it
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whatever she wants to eat
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because she was an athlete
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for most of her life.
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I mean, she was you know,
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she was a champion,
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a border collie, collie,
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whatever they do.
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But now she's in her advanced age.
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I don't care what I give or whatever
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she wants to eat.
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And so she's happy.
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But man, he's a mess.
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So anyhow,
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but I have to say, I went to look,
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I got to see.
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I give you a highlight.
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I got to see Chris Stapleton
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over there over the weekend.
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And that was a great concert.
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A lot of fun.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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people that. Yeah.
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You're like, dancing.
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You stand up,
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you sit down, or are you up dancing
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No, I'm, I'm.
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I'm only
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comfortable dancing
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at home in front of whiskers.
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Whiskers?
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Is that, is that what the cat's name is?
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that's to do That takes care of the cats
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when I'm on the road.
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Yes.
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Whiskers to the cat.
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No, I don't.
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I'm not.
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I'm not.
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You know,
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you know something
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Here's, here's here's one.
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Here's what happened in life to me.
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And dancing.
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I'll never forget.
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We were at the NCO club in England gay
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me and my for me
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and my three brothers and
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it's the first time
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we've been around the live,
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live music and people are dancing.
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And my mom goes,
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Why don't you just go dance?
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First of all,
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we don't dance with each other.
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And that was a stupid thing to say,
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you know what I mean?
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yeah, easy.
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So
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then my mom says,
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Let's go out dance
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and I'll give you a dish of ice cream.
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You can have ice cream for dessert.
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Okay, So, look,
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I will do a lot of things for food.
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And I thought, well,
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how bad can this dancing thing be?
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You know?
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I mean, I can get some ice cream.
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You know,
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I look at other people out there
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and so I get up to go
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and all my brothers are going to sissy.
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They sissy.
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So I it might have been
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the last time I ever danced
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because all over the city,
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my brother's laughing at me.
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But I came back and I got ice cream.
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You got the ice cream out of it.
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Yeah, yeah,
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but my mom gave everybody ice cream.
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See, that's not right.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Now, as a
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Yeah, yeah.
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So anyhow.
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you know, there's a word.
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I'd like to see that word come back.
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Sissy, that's a good one.
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Yeah,
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yeah,
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yeah.
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Well it's fine words
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basically back in the day like in, in
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in the trades you someone
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a sissy.
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just now it's just not good.
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You go off things a lot a lot of things.
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You ever been mess with some guy.
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A guy. One time
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he and I were having words,
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you know,
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it was getting escalated
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and he cut me down
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so good that I had to go, you know,
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that's pretty good.
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I can't even be part of that.
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That's. That's pretty good.
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Yeah.
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I can't remember now.
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I can't remember what it was.
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I can think about it.
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I came up with it,
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but I can't remember it now.
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All right,
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Rob, I'm going to talk about
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what's lurking below. Okay.
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Concrete
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and I just
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want to talk about concrete a little bit.
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And I want to talk about
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some of the things that that
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that happened before.
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A contractor shows up,
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a flooring contractor shows up on a job
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and leaves him very vulnerable.
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And that we don't really talk about
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when we talk about concrete,
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we really are we kind of talk about,
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is the moisture high or is it not high?
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And that's it.
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And that's kind of on a cursory level
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and that's all we really talk about.
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So I'm talking about really kind
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of what happens on a jobsite.
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A lot of this comes from my experience
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as a construction laborer
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and at the time doing
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floors was the last thing on my mind.
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I was a young dumb kid
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and worked as a labor and what have.
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But so I just want to
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go over a couple of things
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when they know
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they're going to place concrete,
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it goes like this, you have the, the sub
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subsoil base. Okay.
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And on top of that you put a filter mat
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and on top of the filter mat
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you put what they call a capillary break.
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Which is basically a lot of stone,
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a lot of like rocks, a layer of rocks.
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I'll tell you about that reason for that.
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And that's very important, actually.
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Super important.
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reason why for that minute
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in on top of that, you put
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you have those amount of soil
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and then you have your your
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your vapor retarder on top of that.
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So the reason that you put that
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stone in there
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and then it's called a capillary break,
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is that the capillary reaction in under
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the concrete is actually very strong
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and is super important.
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To give you an example of that
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and reason, what happens is
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if you just remember that
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that wet always goes to dry, okay,
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if you had a spill,
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if you had water on a counter right now
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and you took a paper towel
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and you set it in there,
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you know
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what, the side of the paper towel,
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the water just keeps going and going
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and going into that paper towel.
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It's kind of the same principle.
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is another way of looking at it.
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If you look at a tree,
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it takes the moisture from the
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and how it
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draws it up into the
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into the rest of the tree.
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Well, it's the same type of principle
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and that can get into the
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into the concrete.
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that layer of rocks in there
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and in aggregate
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it kind of stops
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that process from happening.
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Kind of cuts that off. Okay.
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So now you put the the the the vapor
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barrier down
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moisture retarder,
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but there's three different classes.
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There's an A, class B glass and C, class
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C class is really easy to puncture.
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So a flooring contractor
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would have no idea
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if it was placed
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properly and taped off properly
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and all that. They would have no idea.
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And it makes a huge difference
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because they can absolutely get punctured
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in sometimes intensely.
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And I'll talk about that
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later, I hope I don't forget.
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So then then you place the concrete.
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Okay.
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Now, one of the most important things
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that happens at that point is that
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there's a water to cement ratio,
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a certain amount of water
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is necessary for concrete
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to start the hydration process.
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Basically that that binds
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all the concrete together. Right.
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But there's more
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you need more water in there
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and it's for it's for
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workability purposes. Okay.
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So you have to have more water in there.
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So the concrete is
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the guys can float
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and work it and all that stuff.
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That's called water of convenience
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or free water.
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Okay.
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So but that, that decision
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that that water to cement
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ratio is the biggest factor determining
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how long that concrete
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is going to take to dry. Okay.
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We say concrete takes 28 days to cure,
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but it may actually not start
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drying till 45 to 90 days afterwards.
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Okay.
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So that water is this cement
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ratio is important.
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Now, the next thing
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that is very important.
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question.
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So finish dries and then it cures
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backcountry concrete cures
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and then it dries.
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concrete curing
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and drying is totally different.
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I mean, concrete can continue
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to hydrate the life of it
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as long as there's water,
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long as there's moisture there. Okay.
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But you need to have a certain amount
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of moisture in there, water
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in there for it to hydrate.
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And that hydrate process is
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what binds all the concrete.
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And it's in concrete is is gravel.
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It's dirt, It's it's gravel,
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it's sand, it's
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Portland cement and water. Okay.
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The water binds it all together.
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Okay. So it's it's inbound.
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There's a certain amount of water
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that you have to have in concrete,
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but you have to be concerned about
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the other water that's in there,
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the water of convenience.
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Okay. The free water that has to.
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Yeah, You want that.
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You want that to get out. Okay.
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So after that cement to water ratio,
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the next important thing
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that can come along
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to affect the contract
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and this is another huge one.
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Okay, There's two
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there's two
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two big factors so far,
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and that's how the concrete is cured.
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Okay. There's three ways they can do it.
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One,
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and I've done all three of these methods
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on jobs.
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If you continually wet that slab,
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you have to it's
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for the hydration process.
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You don't want that to dry out too fast
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and everything could crack
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and what have you.
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So you had to continually wet that slab.
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Okay.
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Well, you can imagine it's still
368
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that's adding more water into that slab
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that's going to have to dissipate. Okay,
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That's not really great for us.
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The second thing is
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they could take curing compound.
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You can you
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you can spray with curing compounds.
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Okay.
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And that traps the moisture in there.
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The problem is it works
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really, really well.
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But the slab doesn't start to dry out
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until that is removed. Okay.
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And that has to be removed by more
382
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probably more likely shot blasting.
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Okay. Which is at an expense.
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And again,
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it's not really drying out
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until you do that.
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So that's when the clock starts ticking.
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More.
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The third way,
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which is the best
391
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way, is
392
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they put burlap sacks onto the concrete
393
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and and or plastic.
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Okay.
395
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And you just use enough water
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to keep it hydrated,
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but you're not sucking in the living
398
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daylights out of it. Okay. So
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had they do the first
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or second process, it's
401
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going to really add time
402
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to the amount of water
403
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that's going to be in that concrete
404
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when you get there.
405
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The next thing that comes along
406
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is the reweighting of the slab.
407
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Okay,
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So let's say
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it's exposed to the environment, right?
410
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And it get rain.
411
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It's rained on.
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Let's say
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the relative humidity is very high.
414
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So that's all adding moisture
415
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to the job site into the to the slab.
416
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Now you have all the wet trades
417
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that come in. Okay.
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So that also is a big factor in
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how much
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moisture in water
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is going to be in that slam.
422
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So what then usually happens
423
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is if you're lucky enough,
424
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then certainly aviation
425
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cracks me up where they say, okay, Wayne
426
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or whoever the contractor is,
427
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we've had the vaccine for a week,
428
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so you should be ready to go.
429
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That's really laughable.
430
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It's not enough to dry out that slab.
431
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What you really need to dry out
432
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a slab is you need you need heat
433
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and you need low
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relative humidity, air blowing
435
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across the surface
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of the slab continuously.
437
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Okay.
438
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That's the quickest way
439
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to draft the slab.
440
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Dry, warm air.
441
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Yeah.
442
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Continuously blowing across that slab.
443
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So if the guy had if they cleared it
444
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properly, acute in the best way,
445
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if they had use a low water
446
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to cement
447
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ratio to begin with,
448
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you know,
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those things would be
450
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on the contractor side.
451
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Okay.
452
00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:15,661
But we don't know that nobody's
453
00:13:15,661 --> 00:13:16,462
ever said here.
454
00:13:16,462 --> 00:13:17,863
Here's what this slump ratio is.
455
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We're not in those those conversations.
456
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So the next thing comes along is, okay,
457
00:13:24,904 --> 00:13:26,338
now we have to test to see what
458
00:13:26,338 --> 00:13:30,376
the moisture is. Okay, well,
459
00:13:30,476 --> 00:13:33,245
let's take a calcium chloride test
460
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You really need
461
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if you're not at ambient temperature
462
00:13:36,515 --> 00:13:38,450
and relative humidity
463
00:13:38,450 --> 00:13:39,819
when the home is being occupied,
464
00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:42,621
that test is really not of any use. Okay.
465
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You want to make sure that you are of
466
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living conditions
467
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and and you're able to be
468
00:13:48,527 --> 00:13:50,462
really is about where it's going to be.
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But here's interesting thing.
470
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If you do a calcium chloride
471
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test on a slab
472
00:13:55,801 --> 00:13:58,370
that has never had floor covering on it
473
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and you're going to get a result
474
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back, write a numerical result back
475
00:14:02,174 --> 00:14:05,411
if on that same slab you put down floor
476
00:14:05,411 --> 00:14:06,846
covering for seven days
477
00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:07,513
or ten days
478
00:14:07,513 --> 00:14:09,181
or whatever, like a rubber pad
479
00:14:09,181 --> 00:14:10,683
or something like that
480
00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:13,118
and do a calcium chloride test on it,
481
00:14:13,118 --> 00:14:14,854
you're going to get a much higher result
482
00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:17,890
in that calcium chloride test.
483
00:14:17,957 --> 00:14:19,225
The reason for that is
484
00:14:19,225 --> 00:14:20,192
when you put a floor
485
00:14:20,192 --> 00:14:20,693
covering on
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top of a slab, the moisture
487
00:14:22,027 --> 00:14:24,063
in that slab starts to redistribute.
488
00:14:24,063 --> 00:14:25,130
Okay.
489
00:14:25,130 --> 00:14:26,765
And that gives you more of a probably
490
00:14:26,765 --> 00:14:28,901
an accurate reading of what's going on
491
00:14:28,901 --> 00:14:30,102
is the calcium
492
00:14:30,102 --> 00:14:30,603
chloride test
493
00:14:30,603 --> 00:14:31,770
only reads like the first half
494
00:14:31,770 --> 00:14:33,973
inch in that slab.
495
00:14:33,973 --> 00:14:35,507
Now
496
00:14:35,507 --> 00:14:37,376
to do the RH test,
497
00:14:37,376 --> 00:14:38,677
the reason why we do in our East
498
00:14:38,677 --> 00:14:40,212
is that our age is the best indicator
499
00:14:40,212 --> 00:14:40,880
of how much moisture
500
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,181
is really going on in that slab.
501
00:14:42,181 --> 00:14:44,049
And you know, you drill 40% down
502
00:14:44,049 --> 00:14:45,718
into the depth of that slab.
503
00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:46,185
The reason
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00:14:46,185 --> 00:14:47,553
why you drill 40% down
505
00:14:47,553 --> 00:14:52,024
into the depth of that slab is because
506
00:14:52,091 --> 00:14:53,292
they know that there's going to be a flow
507
00:14:53,292 --> 00:14:54,693
coming on it's lab
508
00:14:54,693 --> 00:14:56,028
and they figure that
509
00:14:56,028 --> 00:14:58,197
that is kind of the intersection
510
00:14:58,197 --> 00:14:59,565
of where the moisture is going to be.
511
00:14:59,565 --> 00:15:01,033
Actually, when you are
512
00:15:01,033 --> 00:15:02,968
when you when you have the slab covered
513
00:15:02,968 --> 00:15:03,636
gate, that
514
00:15:03,636 --> 00:15:04,937
amount of moisture is in there.
515
00:15:04,937 --> 00:15:06,572
It's kind of a bitter
516
00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:10,209
but a read on what's going on. So
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I guess
518
00:15:10,676 --> 00:15:12,044
that, you know, we don't
519
00:15:12,044 --> 00:15:13,812
we talk about doing testing
520
00:15:13,812 --> 00:15:14,513
and what have you.
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00:15:14,513 --> 00:15:16,348
And, you know, we really don't
522
00:15:16,348 --> 00:15:17,750
you know, there's like I said,
523
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I think if we knew more about concrete
524
00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:22,087
and what we were up
525
00:15:22,087 --> 00:15:24,290
against in the front side,
526
00:15:24,290 --> 00:15:25,257
it might change the way
527
00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:28,260
we look at things.
528
00:15:28,494 --> 00:15:30,462
So question.
529
00:15:30,462 --> 00:15:33,432
The RH probe,
530
00:15:33,432 --> 00:15:34,066
when you said
531
00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:35,034
you don't know
532
00:15:35,034 --> 00:15:37,970
what people are doing to concrete
533
00:15:37,970 --> 00:15:48,314
by the time you get
534
00:15:48,414 --> 00:15:49,148
it's going to
535
00:15:49,148 --> 00:15:50,082
it won't necessarily
536
00:15:50,082 --> 00:15:51,684
tell you what they did, but it will
537
00:15:51,684 --> 00:15:52,384
damn sure
538
00:15:52,384 --> 00:15:54,653
tell you where that slab is at
539
00:15:54,653 --> 00:15:55,654
as far as moisture,
540
00:15:55,654 --> 00:15:58,590
way better than any other test.
541
00:15:58,590 --> 00:16:01,026
But again, to expect that
542
00:16:01,026 --> 00:16:02,428
I don't have to turn it on
543
00:16:02,428 --> 00:16:03,162
and it
544
00:16:03,162 --> 00:16:05,297
the same thing is as as wood flooring it.
545
00:16:05,297 --> 00:16:06,131
They actually concrete
546
00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:08,067
and wood are very similar.
547
00:16:08,133 --> 00:16:11,103
If you when you pour a concrete slab,
548
00:16:11,103 --> 00:16:12,471
that moisture starts to dry out of there
549
00:16:12,471 --> 00:16:13,172
and what have you in
550
00:16:13,172 --> 00:16:13,706
a slab
551
00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:17,676
can curl from loss of moisture, which
552
00:16:17,743 --> 00:16:22,614
I'll get into just really shortly because
553
00:16:22,681 --> 00:16:23,882
they should almost expect
554
00:16:23,882 --> 00:16:25,217
that you're going to have to do something
555
00:16:25,217 --> 00:16:27,586
to that slab, some leveling,
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00:16:27,586 --> 00:16:29,254
some some grinding,
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00:16:29,254 --> 00:16:30,022
because when they
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00:16:30,022 --> 00:16:30,689
when they occur, well,
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00:16:30,689 --> 00:16:33,525
it doesn't necessarily affect us as much
560
00:16:33,525 --> 00:16:34,760
with wood as it does
561
00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,962
like a VCT or those type of things.
562
00:16:36,962 --> 00:16:40,232
But here's what can happen.
563
00:16:40,299 --> 00:16:42,301
Let's say the concrete is poured
564
00:16:42,301 --> 00:16:43,535
and it's nice and flat
565
00:16:43,535 --> 00:16:44,236
and maybe you do some
566
00:16:44,236 --> 00:16:45,404
grinding on it, right?
567
00:16:45,404 --> 00:16:48,907
And because it, maybe it, it, it
568
00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,342
curled, you grind it
569
00:16:50,342 --> 00:16:51,310
everything, you get it flat.
570
00:16:51,310 --> 00:16:52,411
Maybe it has some construction
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00:16:52,411 --> 00:16:54,213
joints in there and you fill those now.
572
00:16:54,213 --> 00:16:55,514
Okay.
573
00:16:55,514 --> 00:16:56,115
He okay.
574
00:16:56,115 --> 00:16:57,616
It is absolutely flat. Beautiful.
575
00:16:57,616 --> 00:16:59,551
Let's put this flooring on.
576
00:16:59,551 --> 00:17:02,054
Well when they put the flooring on
577
00:17:02,054 --> 00:17:04,623
and that that moisture in slab starts
578
00:17:04,623 --> 00:17:06,091
to redistribute.
579
00:17:06,091 --> 00:17:09,161
Now what could happen is it can that
580
00:17:09,294 --> 00:17:10,729
there as you flatten everything
581
00:17:10,729 --> 00:17:12,364
now the moisture coming back up
582
00:17:12,364 --> 00:17:14,033
and those joints that you filled,
583
00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:16,235
you can blow that off the slab.
584
00:17:16,235 --> 00:17:22,041
So it's kind of a catch 22.
585
00:17:22,141 --> 00:17:25,711
So.
586
00:17:25,811 --> 00:17:46,665
Okay,
587
00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:51,103
Yeah.
588
00:17:51,170 --> 00:17:51,970
Okay.
589
00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:54,506
I'm glad you brought that up.
590
00:17:54,506 --> 00:17:55,941
So there's two types of tests.
591
00:17:55,941 --> 00:17:58,710
One is what they call a qualitative test
592
00:17:58,710 --> 00:18:00,479
and one is a quantitative test.
593
00:18:00,479 --> 00:18:02,281
The quantitative test is the calcium
594
00:18:02,281 --> 00:18:03,682
chloride test in the RH test
595
00:18:03,682 --> 00:18:05,184
because they give you a numerical value.
596
00:18:05,184 --> 00:18:06,085
Okay?
597
00:18:06,085 --> 00:18:09,321
They're they recognize as being a test,
598
00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:10,689
a qualitative test.
599
00:18:10,689 --> 00:18:13,992
We like a pin meter, a rubber mat test.
600
00:18:13,992 --> 00:18:15,094
We put a rubber mat down
601
00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:16,195
for so many days,
602
00:18:16,195 --> 00:18:16,962
you pull it up, you say,
603
00:18:16,962 --> 00:18:17,830
okay, underneath it
604
00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:20,199
the slab is turned, is turned dark,
605
00:18:20,199 --> 00:18:22,134
which indicates there's moisture.
606
00:18:22,134 --> 00:18:24,870
There's actually value in both tests.
607
00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:27,372
But the real test is recognizing meaning
608
00:18:27,372 --> 00:18:29,908
you do have to do a quantitative test,
609
00:18:29,908 --> 00:18:31,543
but there is value in a tree makes meter.
610
00:18:31,543 --> 00:18:33,479
And I don't want to misspeak and remake
611
00:18:33,479 --> 00:18:33,979
because I believe
612
00:18:33,979 --> 00:18:35,514
they came out with a new meter
613
00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:36,882
that does
614
00:18:36,882 --> 00:18:38,550
are rates testing and stuff like that.
615
00:18:38,550 --> 00:18:39,551
It looked very impressive.
616
00:18:39,551 --> 00:18:40,752
I didn't really have a good chance
617
00:18:40,752 --> 00:18:41,520
to look at it, but
618
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,387
but the type of meters
619
00:18:42,387 --> 00:18:44,356
you set on top of the slab,
620
00:18:44,356 --> 00:18:45,991
that's the quantitative test
621
00:18:45,991 --> 00:18:47,226
that's giving you a qualitative test.
622
00:18:47,226 --> 00:18:47,793
It just gives you.
623
00:18:47,793 --> 00:18:48,694
And they're valuable
624
00:18:48,694 --> 00:18:49,628
because they can also tell you
625
00:18:49,628 --> 00:18:50,896
where to put the
626
00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:53,432
the calcium chloride test and everything.
627
00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:54,933
If they read high, that's okay.
628
00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:56,335
Well, let's do a test here.
629
00:18:56,335 --> 00:18:58,971
So there is value to those
630
00:18:59,037 --> 00:19:00,839
those type of tests.
631
00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:01,874
okay.
632
00:19:01,874 --> 00:19:02,674
Now I just saw you
633
00:19:02,674 --> 00:19:06,311
look at your door like, did your Mr.
634
00:19:06,512 --> 00:19:09,481
or Mrs. just leave?
635
00:19:09,481 --> 00:19:10,983
Well, I didn't know if housekeeping
636
00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:11,650
was going to come in.
637
00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:17,156
I put the.
638
00:19:17,222 --> 00:19:17,990
Yeah.
639
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:20,792
Well is the female version of that,
640
00:19:20,792 --> 00:19:22,861
is that the misuse.
641
00:19:22,861 --> 00:19:24,196
Yes. Yes.
642
00:19:24,196 --> 00:19:25,697
That was the way we what I would get.
643
00:19:25,697 --> 00:19:26,498
Yeah.
644
00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:30,068
But there, there's that happening
645
00:19:30,135 --> 00:19:30,369
now.
646
00:19:30,369 --> 00:19:32,404
I am a great tipper.
647
00:19:32,404 --> 00:19:33,705
I'm a really good tipper.
648
00:19:33,705 --> 00:19:35,941
Although I'm annoyed about tipping,
649
00:19:35,941 --> 00:19:37,910
I'm super annoyed about this culture
650
00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:39,011
that we have
651
00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:40,345
about tipping in America now.
652
00:19:40,345 --> 00:19:41,847
It's crazy.
653
00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:45,184
But yes, I.
654
00:19:45,250 --> 00:19:47,853
I know.
655
00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:52,090
And yeah, yeah, yeah.
656
00:19:52,157 --> 00:19:52,791
And without,
657
00:19:52,791 --> 00:19:53,959
without even saying thank you
658
00:19:53,959 --> 00:19:55,894
or whatever you and I like.
659
00:19:55,894 --> 00:20:00,065
They started 18 and 22, 25
660
00:20:00,065 --> 00:20:01,800
and then a special one
661
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,071
where you get more special in 25
662
00:20:06,138 --> 00:20:08,774
for hands for, for, for
663
00:20:08,774 --> 00:20:10,142
let me tell you,
664
00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:12,711
let me tell you a worse one than that.
665
00:20:12,711 --> 00:20:13,579
Listen to this.
666
00:20:13,579 --> 00:20:15,414
And this one that really made me mad.
667
00:20:15,414 --> 00:20:15,981
And I
668
00:20:15,981 --> 00:20:16,481
if I was there,
669
00:20:16,481 --> 00:20:16,982
I would have said
670
00:20:16,982 --> 00:20:18,984
something to the manager.
671
00:20:18,984 --> 00:20:21,186
We bought a gift certificate for
672
00:20:21,186 --> 00:20:22,654
for a couple.
673
00:20:22,654 --> 00:20:24,423
And it's $400.
674
00:20:24,423 --> 00:20:24,923
Whatever.
675
00:20:24,923 --> 00:20:27,926
Look, it's in restaurant labor
676
00:20:27,993 --> 00:20:29,061
now that I think $100
677
00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:29,928
sounds kind of cheap for a
678
00:20:29,928 --> 00:20:31,897
couple at a restaurant, but that's
679
00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:33,265
neither here nor there.
680
00:20:33,265 --> 00:20:35,601
But.
681
00:20:35,601 --> 00:20:36,969
Okay, Thank you.
682
00:20:36,969 --> 00:20:38,670
Thank you.
683
00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:40,138
Yeah. Okay.
684
00:20:40,138 --> 00:20:44,076
But so if I give certificate $400,
685
00:20:44,276 --> 00:20:45,677
the lady turns the thing around
686
00:20:45,677 --> 00:20:49,548
for the tip for what we paid to Texel.
687
00:20:49,715 --> 00:20:50,882
Okay, $100.
688
00:20:50,882 --> 00:20:52,718
But you pay.
689
00:20:52,718 --> 00:20:55,454
Yeah
690
00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:57,422
Yes.
691
00:20:57,422 --> 00:20:58,390
Yeah. So?
692
00:20:58,390 --> 00:21:00,926
So let me see.
693
00:21:00,926 --> 00:21:03,929
Yeah.
694
00:21:04,129 --> 00:21:04,563
Yeah.
695
00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:08,200
I wouldn't even.
696
00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:09,134
Yeah.
697
00:21:09,134 --> 00:21:10,569
Okay, here's a note here, because here's.
698
00:21:10,569 --> 00:21:11,403
Here's the thing.
699
00:21:11,403 --> 00:21:12,271
Okay? We pay that.
700
00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:13,672
We pay the tip on a now,
701
00:21:13,672 --> 00:21:14,940
which is like a tax.
702
00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:15,841
The people pay it.
703
00:21:15,841 --> 00:21:17,876
Another tip when, they eat the dinner.
704
00:21:17,876 --> 00:21:20,312
We're taxed on $100.
705
00:21:20,312 --> 00:21:23,181
Now it's like a $70 value of.
706
00:21:23,181 --> 00:21:23,649
You know what I mean?
707
00:21:23,649 --> 00:21:26,418
It's crazy. Anyhow, it's not. Sorry.
708
00:21:26,418 --> 00:21:28,920
All where was a
709
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,389
okay.
710
00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:31,923
Yeah, yeah.
711
00:21:31,923 --> 00:21:32,724
So. Yeah.
712
00:21:32,724 --> 00:21:35,994
How dare you?
713
00:21:36,061 --> 00:21:36,695
Yeah.
714
00:21:36,695 --> 00:21:38,530
So
715
00:21:38,530 --> 00:21:41,533
yeah I don't care that I'm only
716
00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:42,701
giving in into massages.
717
00:21:42,701 --> 00:21:45,671
I don't, I'm not a massage guy.
718
00:21:45,671 --> 00:21:46,538
Yes.
719
00:21:46,538 --> 00:21:48,440
Yeah.
720
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,908
Yes. Well way to.
721
00:21:49,908 --> 00:21:51,310
Yes.
722
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:57,015
Just
723
00:21:57,115 --> 00:21:59,151
yes.
724
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:00,452
Yeah. Sorry.
725
00:22:00,452 --> 00:22:02,120
Sorry about that. Yeah.
726
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:06,124
Yeah, I know.
727
00:22:06,191 --> 00:22:07,292
my gosh.
728
00:22:07,292 --> 00:22:11,063
Both Okay, I'll just real quick.
729
00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:11,730
Wait a minute.
730
00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:14,700
First, I was a way.
731
00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:15,901
No, no, no.
732
00:22:15,901 --> 00:22:16,234
Okay.
733
00:22:16,234 --> 00:22:19,438
So first I have like,
734
00:22:19,438 --> 00:22:19,604
you know,
735
00:22:19,604 --> 00:22:21,306
I was I'll throw about 35 at a time
736
00:22:21,306 --> 00:22:22,441
and I don't know, I did my back.
737
00:22:22,441 --> 00:22:23,508
Back was killing me.
738
00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:24,643
So did you guys just go
739
00:22:24,643 --> 00:22:25,944
just go to the doctor or whatever,
740
00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:26,378
And then there's
741
00:22:26,378 --> 00:22:27,379
a physical therapist there.
742
00:22:27,379 --> 00:22:30,015
And then so she gave me a massage.
743
00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:31,750
So like two or three times I went.
744
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:32,384
It was a girl.
745
00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:34,152
Same girl there every time. Right?
746
00:22:34,152 --> 00:22:36,254
Nice. Nice insight. Okay.
747
00:22:36,254 --> 00:22:37,823
When did the last time
748
00:22:37,823 --> 00:22:40,892
she was there and this monster was there?
749
00:22:40,959 --> 00:22:42,561
I mean,
750
00:22:42,561 --> 00:22:45,097
this dude tried to kill me.
751
00:22:45,097 --> 00:22:47,666
I never I never
752
00:22:47,666 --> 00:22:50,969
shrieked in agony before,
753
00:22:51,036 --> 00:22:52,270
but I was damn close to it.
754
00:22:52,270 --> 00:22:53,905
And my mom was in tears.
755
00:22:53,905 --> 00:22:55,140
My sister was trying to kill me.
756
00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:56,108
So I never went back.
757
00:22:56,108 --> 00:22:56,842
Like, what kind of
758
00:22:56,842 --> 00:22:57,709
what kind of place does
759
00:22:57,709 --> 00:22:58,744
something like this suck?
760
00:22:58,744 --> 00:23:01,179
Are you in with the.
761
00:23:01,179 --> 00:23:02,047
I know.
762
00:23:02,047 --> 00:23:06,051
I mean, I fully admit that
763
00:23:06,151 --> 00:23:07,219
I think it was appropriate
764
00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:08,820
for the conversation.
765
00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:11,056
Okay,
766
00:23:11,056 --> 00:23:13,725
so where are we at now?
767
00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:15,794
we're done.
768
00:23:15,794 --> 00:23:16,161
Okay.
769
00:23:16,161 --> 00:23:17,929
Yeah. Interesting.
770
00:23:17,929 --> 00:23:21,666
So now here's the thing.
771
00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:23,769
In America, manufacturers are saying,
772
00:23:23,769 --> 00:23:24,903
okay, we'll give you a
773
00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:26,872
and we can give you unlimited warranty.
774
00:23:26,872 --> 00:23:28,740
Certainly bone has an unlimited warranty
775
00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:31,543
with our with our flow adhesive. Okay.
776
00:23:31,543 --> 00:23:33,812
Other manufacturers do as well.
777
00:23:33,812 --> 00:23:34,746
And by the way, in Europe,
778
00:23:34,746 --> 00:23:35,881
they think we're out of our minds
779
00:23:35,881 --> 00:23:37,816
for offering unlimited warranties.
780
00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:41,186
They just think it's reckless. Okay.
781
00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,522
We offer a limited warranty.
782
00:23:43,522 --> 00:23:46,825
I'm still and I would say that.
783
00:23:46,892 --> 00:23:48,960
yeah, yeah, yeah.
784
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,829
We don't care.
785
00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:53,365
Yeah, okay.
786
00:23:53,365 --> 00:23:57,202
Yeah, Believe me, they do.
787
00:23:57,302 --> 00:23:58,570
So.
788
00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:00,205
So
789
00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:03,208
we offer unlimited warranties
790
00:24:03,208 --> 00:24:05,177
on flow other manufacturers.
791
00:24:05,177 --> 00:24:07,779
That's not new. This a lot of people do.
792
00:24:07,779 --> 00:24:08,880
But I'm still going to say this
793
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,915
and I'm going to say this.
794
00:24:09,915 --> 00:24:11,082
I would say this
795
00:24:11,082 --> 00:24:13,051
because I've done floors for 30 years.
796
00:24:13,051 --> 00:24:13,718
I say this
797
00:24:13,718 --> 00:24:15,520
because I've been in this straight.
798
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,889
Another 12 years after that,
799
00:24:17,889 --> 00:24:21,493
as 42 years of seeing floors,
800
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,228
nobody wins
801
00:24:23,228 --> 00:24:26,431
in a claim, least of all the contractor.
802
00:24:26,498 --> 00:24:28,400
So I still think,
803
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:28,934
like I said,
804
00:24:28,934 --> 00:24:31,503
I don't care who I'm working for, I'm
805
00:24:31,503 --> 00:24:32,671
just going to call it like I see it.
806
00:24:32,671 --> 00:24:34,973
I still think
807
00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:36,408
that it's smart to do testing
808
00:24:36,408 --> 00:24:37,776
and I don't care what any
809
00:24:37,776 --> 00:24:40,745
anybody else says.
810
00:24:40,812 --> 00:24:42,180
I'm venture to say if I was
811
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:43,682
in a roomful of 30,
812
00:24:43,682 --> 00:24:44,616
30 inspectors,
813
00:24:44,616 --> 00:24:45,584
every one of them would say,
814
00:24:45,584 --> 00:24:47,219
You should test. Okay.
815
00:24:47,219 --> 00:24:50,222
And here's the way I liken it.
816
00:24:50,288 --> 00:24:51,890
The speed limit out there on the freeway
817
00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:54,292
is 70 miles an hour. Okay.
818
00:24:54,292 --> 00:24:55,760
I'm pretty sure a Corvette will do
819
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,696
100 and 4050.
820
00:24:57,696 --> 00:24:59,498
I'm pretty sure the Mercedes has one.
821
00:24:59,498 --> 00:24:59,965
That'll do
822
00:24:59,965 --> 00:25:01,032
hundred 4050,
823
00:25:01,032 --> 00:25:02,701
160 miles an hour or two
824
00:25:02,701 --> 00:25:05,036
and push probably the same.
825
00:25:05,036 --> 00:25:07,806
And I don't see the sales reps for four
826
00:25:07,806 --> 00:25:09,140
for the Corvette go.
827
00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:10,342
You know what,
828
00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:11,243
I don't even worry about that
829
00:25:11,243 --> 00:25:11,977
70 miles an hour.
830
00:25:11,977 --> 00:25:14,579
I mean, we can do 150. Okay.
831
00:25:14,579 --> 00:25:15,714
So I'll take that
832
00:25:15,714 --> 00:25:17,549
curve at 150 miles an hour.
833
00:25:17,549 --> 00:25:19,184
We can do every bit of that.
834
00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:23,688
I just think if there were if they were
835
00:25:23,788 --> 00:25:25,123
not just not
836
00:25:25,123 --> 00:25:26,091
car dealer reps,
837
00:25:26,091 --> 00:25:27,592
but adhesive people or whatever
838
00:25:27,592 --> 00:25:29,160
it is in our industry,
839
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,161
that's what they'd be.
840
00:25:30,161 --> 00:25:30,962
Instead of saying no,
841
00:25:30,962 --> 00:25:33,932
go 70 miles an hour, be on the safe side.
842
00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:36,301
I think because it's too cavalier,
843
00:25:36,301 --> 00:25:40,238
it's too the contractor is the one that
844
00:25:40,305 --> 00:25:42,908
that that that is the most affected.
845
00:25:42,908 --> 00:25:44,276
And I think you should look at every job.
846
00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:44,976
When you look at the job,
847
00:25:44,976 --> 00:25:45,911
I think you should look at the job
848
00:25:45,911 --> 00:25:47,145
and say to myself,
849
00:25:47,145 --> 00:25:50,148
can I afford to eat this job?
850
00:25:50,215 --> 00:25:53,084
And that should drive everything.
851
00:25:53,084 --> 00:25:55,387
I think we have to get we have to
852
00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:58,023
in this in this industry, start
853
00:25:58,023 --> 00:26:00,625
as an entire industry the responsibility
854
00:26:00,625 --> 00:26:02,260
and or actually
855
00:26:02,260 --> 00:26:03,962
taking less responsibility.
856
00:26:03,962 --> 00:26:05,764
The onus is left, you know,
857
00:26:05,764 --> 00:26:07,966
I mean almost how dare all the other
858
00:26:07,966 --> 00:26:09,100
the general contractors
859
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:10,435
and everybody else say,
860
00:26:10,435 --> 00:26:11,536
you know, you need to go
861
00:26:11,536 --> 00:26:12,070
no matter what
862
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:13,171
because this is the time period.
863
00:26:13,171 --> 00:26:14,239
Well, blah, blah.
864
00:26:14,239 --> 00:26:14,973
It should be that
865
00:26:14,973 --> 00:26:16,808
you get that ready for me.
866
00:26:16,808 --> 00:26:18,176
You do the you show me the count.
867
00:26:18,176 --> 00:26:18,910
You know what
868
00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:20,378
we're what our Ari says
869
00:26:20,378 --> 00:26:21,880
is acceptable to you.
870
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,747
You know what I mean?
871
00:26:22,747 --> 00:26:24,649
We take on a lot of liability.
872
00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:27,552
And here's here's here's the other thing
873
00:26:27,552 --> 00:26:29,154
I told you about the plastic,
874
00:26:29,154 --> 00:26:29,654
what have you.
875
00:26:29,654 --> 00:26:31,022
And I told you about how important
876
00:26:31,022 --> 00:26:33,258
the water to cement ratio is.
877
00:26:33,258 --> 00:26:34,526
When I was a construction labor
878
00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:35,527
and I know I've said this before,
879
00:26:35,527 --> 00:26:37,596
so I'm going to say this quickly.
880
00:26:37,662 --> 00:26:39,464
I place concrete
881
00:26:39,464 --> 00:26:40,131
every day
882
00:26:40,131 --> 00:26:41,766
when I or every week, rather,
883
00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:43,234
when I was in that in that
884
00:26:43,234 --> 00:26:45,003
when I was a labor.
885
00:26:45,003 --> 00:26:46,805
And it's a very typical scenario.
886
00:26:46,805 --> 00:26:47,606
It happened more times
887
00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:49,174
than I can tell you.
888
00:26:49,174 --> 00:26:49,808
Let's say we're pouring
889
00:26:49,808 --> 00:26:51,943
concrete on Thursday.
890
00:26:51,943 --> 00:26:52,811
Monday, it's raining.
891
00:26:52,811 --> 00:26:53,311
It's been raining
892
00:26:53,311 --> 00:26:54,412
all weekend, It's raining
893
00:26:54,412 --> 00:26:55,914
Monday, it's raining Tuesday,
894
00:26:55,914 --> 00:26:57,148
it's raining Wednesday.
895
00:26:57,148 --> 00:26:58,750
Thursday is going to be beautiful out.
896
00:26:58,750 --> 00:26:59,918
Okay.
897
00:26:59,918 --> 00:27:00,685
When we get there
898
00:27:00,685 --> 00:27:03,054
to do our job on a Thursday,
899
00:27:03,054 --> 00:27:04,956
we're standing on that moisture barrier
900
00:27:04,956 --> 00:27:07,659
that's been now soaked with water.
901
00:27:07,659 --> 00:27:08,460
There's water on top
902
00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:09,160
with water everywhere.
903
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,261
So let's say we don't do anything
904
00:27:10,261 --> 00:27:11,796
but pour that can't replace the concrete.
905
00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:12,931
On top of that.
906
00:27:12,931 --> 00:27:14,099
Still,
907
00:27:14,099 --> 00:27:16,635
we've just added a tremendous amount of
908
00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:17,769
water into that mix.
909
00:27:17,769 --> 00:27:19,337
And where is it going to go?
910
00:27:19,337 --> 00:27:20,405
Okay.
911
00:27:20,405 --> 00:27:21,239
Or two
912
00:27:21,239 --> 00:27:22,440
and this is what happened
913
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,808
time after time,
914
00:27:23,808 --> 00:27:25,143
we would pick up stakes and start
915
00:27:25,143 --> 00:27:26,911
poking holes in the plastic
916
00:27:26,911 --> 00:27:29,314
to let the water do.
917
00:27:29,381 --> 00:27:30,148
Absolutely.
918
00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:31,816
To let the water run out.
919
00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:33,718
And it was not malicious.
920
00:27:33,718 --> 00:27:35,553
It was just dumb laborers.
921
00:27:35,553 --> 00:27:36,254
We didn't know.
922
00:27:36,254 --> 00:27:38,523
We our job is to get that concrete done
923
00:27:38,523 --> 00:27:40,792
and whatever made our life easier.
924
00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:42,527
And it wasn't malicious at all,
925
00:27:42,527 --> 00:27:44,462
but that's the way it was done
926
00:27:44,462 --> 00:27:48,266
and that's not the end of it,
927
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:48,833
you know?
928
00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:50,101
Then we would drop the chutes down
929
00:27:50,101 --> 00:27:52,237
from the from the concrete truck. Right.
930
00:27:52,237 --> 00:27:53,905
And, you know, concrete is going around
931
00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:54,739
in that truck, you know,
932
00:27:54,739 --> 00:27:55,173
and it starts
933
00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:56,608
sliding down the chute
934
00:27:56,608 --> 00:27:57,909
and it's slower than death
935
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:59,310
and it's always in his heart.
936
00:27:59,310 --> 00:28:00,645
And that concrete is heavy
937
00:28:00,645 --> 00:28:02,080
and it's hard to move.
938
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,982
And we're staring at it
939
00:28:03,982 --> 00:28:04,916
like we're really go.
940
00:28:04,916 --> 00:28:06,251
It is taking too long.
941
00:28:06,251 --> 00:28:07,352
Inevitably,
942
00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:08,887
somebody would jump up in the truck,
943
00:28:08,887 --> 00:28:10,388
take the garden hose and start
944
00:28:10,388 --> 00:28:12,857
spraying water into that mix. Okay.
945
00:28:12,857 --> 00:28:14,292
So it may have left
946
00:28:14,292 --> 00:28:15,193
wherever that concrete
947
00:28:15,193 --> 00:28:16,261
truck came from, whether
948
00:28:16,261 --> 00:28:19,464
proper water to cement ratio,
949
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:21,332
but now we got done with it.
950
00:28:21,332 --> 00:28:23,134
So what would we do?
951
00:28:23,134 --> 00:28:25,437
We created very porous concrete
952
00:28:25,437 --> 00:28:29,274
and and and we underneath that,
953
00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:29,674
underneath
954
00:28:29,674 --> 00:28:30,809
that moisture
955
00:28:30,809 --> 00:28:33,445
barrier is an infinite supply of water.
956
00:28:33,445 --> 00:28:35,814
An infinite supply.
957
00:28:35,814 --> 00:28:37,582
So,
958
00:28:37,582 --> 00:28:38,817
you know, the
959
00:28:38,817 --> 00:28:39,884
how would the contractor know
960
00:28:39,884 --> 00:28:40,952
any of this?
961
00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:41,953
You know what I mean?
962
00:28:41,953 --> 00:28:43,688
So I think that also
963
00:28:43,688 --> 00:28:45,256
it tells me that I would,
964
00:28:45,256 --> 00:28:47,425
you know, if we say, okay,
965
00:28:47,425 --> 00:28:48,626
this amount
966
00:28:48,626 --> 00:28:51,629
of is good or whatever, I would
967
00:28:51,663 --> 00:28:54,265
oftentimes probably go to the maximum.
968
00:28:54,265 --> 00:28:54,632
I would
969
00:28:54,632 --> 00:28:56,267
I would go for the unlimited
970
00:28:56,267 --> 00:28:58,403
and work it into the into the bid.
971
00:28:58,403 --> 00:29:00,004
It's easier to have that conversation
972
00:29:00,004 --> 00:29:04,109
on the front side than on the backside.
973
00:29:04,175 --> 00:29:07,045
So because here's your choices.
974
00:29:07,045 --> 00:29:09,380
You can you can do your moisture test
975
00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:11,983
and you can say, okay, we need to wait
976
00:29:11,983 --> 00:29:13,351
because it's not ready yet.
977
00:29:13,351 --> 00:29:14,919
Well Oftentimes
978
00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:15,153
we know
979
00:29:15,153 --> 00:29:16,254
we're going to get left out of the job
980
00:29:16,254 --> 00:29:16,855
because one of the worst
981
00:29:16,855 --> 00:29:18,056
things that happened to us is a
982
00:29:18,056 --> 00:29:20,091
trade is fast track construction.
983
00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:21,092
Okay.
984
00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:22,727
So you can say we have to wait.
985
00:29:22,727 --> 00:29:23,695
Well, a lot of times
986
00:29:23,695 --> 00:29:25,997
turning these homes over 90 days,
987
00:29:25,997 --> 00:29:27,232
there's no waiting.
988
00:29:27,232 --> 00:29:28,800
It's not going happen.
989
00:29:28,867 --> 00:29:29,934
Number two is we
990
00:29:29,934 --> 00:29:30,502
can say, okay,
991
00:29:30,502 --> 00:29:33,004
we need to bring in the low RH
992
00:29:33,004 --> 00:29:36,941
fans, baseball fans on here and we can
993
00:29:37,008 --> 00:29:38,309
turn the heat on.
994
00:29:38,309 --> 00:29:39,110
And that will help.
995
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:39,644
No question.
996
00:29:39,644 --> 00:29:42,914
That will help or or three.
997
00:29:42,914 --> 00:29:43,681
But the problem is
998
00:29:43,681 --> 00:29:44,315
we don't know how long
999
00:29:44,315 --> 00:29:46,117
it's going to take. Right?
1000
00:29:46,117 --> 00:29:47,085
Or three, we can
1001
00:29:47,085 --> 00:29:48,920
we can understand that
1002
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,354
we should do
1003
00:29:49,354 --> 00:29:51,422
the moisture mitigation into the bid
1004
00:29:51,422 --> 00:29:52,891
and plan on putting down
1005
00:29:52,891 --> 00:29:54,292
like they're using the 540
1006
00:29:54,292 --> 00:29:55,360
and using the
1007
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,295
the adhesive with the unlimited moisture.
1008
00:29:57,295 --> 00:29:59,197
You use that amount of adhesive.
1009
00:29:59,197 --> 00:30:00,832
I still think number two is a good step
1010
00:30:00,832 --> 00:30:03,334
no matter what the fans.
1011
00:30:03,334 --> 00:30:03,968
I think it's a
1012
00:30:03,968 --> 00:30:06,337
it's a fantastic step to do that.
1013
00:30:06,337 --> 00:30:08,807
But I think that's the best way
1014
00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:12,877
you have to defend yourself and again,
1015
00:30:12,877 --> 00:30:15,880
I think that I don't know, like I said,
1016
00:30:15,947 --> 00:30:17,882
we say you don't need to test
1017
00:30:17,882 --> 00:30:18,850
other manufactures say
1018
00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:19,784
you don't need everybody
1019
00:30:19,784 --> 00:30:20,418
Unlimited says,
1020
00:30:20,418 --> 00:30:22,053
but you don't have to test.
1021
00:30:22,053 --> 00:30:25,056
I am I would say this again,
1022
00:30:25,056 --> 00:30:26,424
no matter who I work for,
1023
00:30:26,424 --> 00:30:29,160
I just know that much about wood
1024
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,728
and I know that much about the trade
1025
00:30:30,728 --> 00:30:31,229
and the industry.
1026
00:30:31,229 --> 00:30:32,397
I've seen so much
1027
00:30:32,397 --> 00:30:33,164
that it tells me that
1028
00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:35,867
this makes sense to me.
1029
00:30:35,967 --> 00:30:37,869
People will say,
1030
00:30:37,869 --> 00:30:39,504
Well, when there's a labor shortage,
1031
00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:40,705
I don't have time to run out there
1032
00:30:40,705 --> 00:30:42,173
and do a test.
1033
00:30:42,173 --> 00:30:44,709
And I think that that is the very reason
1034
00:30:44,709 --> 00:30:46,978
you need to go out there and do a test
1035
00:30:46,978 --> 00:30:49,280
for two reasons. One,
1036
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,115
you don't have time for this callback
1037
00:30:51,115 --> 00:30:52,884
and you don't want this smoke,
1038
00:30:52,884 --> 00:30:55,353
as they say.
1039
00:30:55,353 --> 00:30:56,688
But the second reason
1040
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:58,356
is I'm going to get that
1041
00:30:58,356 --> 00:30:59,757
if I'm building this job
1042
00:30:59,757 --> 00:31:01,926
and I'm being against other people
1043
00:31:01,926 --> 00:31:04,462
and they're not testing,
1044
00:31:04,462 --> 00:31:06,464
then I'm going to
1045
00:31:06,464 --> 00:31:07,599
I'm going to get that bid
1046
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:07,966
because I'm
1047
00:31:07,966 --> 00:31:08,800
going to explain
1048
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,801
how important this is
1049
00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:11,736
that I'm doing this test right now.
1050
00:31:11,736 --> 00:31:12,570
And I'm going to say,
1051
00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:13,605
if I don't do this test
1052
00:31:13,605 --> 00:31:16,241
and everything I do afterwards, guessing
1053
00:31:16,241 --> 00:31:18,476
and it's just going to make me
1054
00:31:18,476 --> 00:31:19,711
look so much more professional
1055
00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:20,979
than the next guy.
1056
00:31:20,979 --> 00:31:21,679
And by the way,
1057
00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:23,414
and this is important, too,
1058
00:31:23,414 --> 00:31:25,383
if you're dealing with a guy on the job
1059
00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:26,951
and the homeowner or whatever,
1060
00:31:26,951 --> 00:31:29,454
I give everybody a copy of the results
1061
00:31:29,454 --> 00:31:32,023
of that of that test.
1062
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:33,758
Because
1063
00:31:33,758 --> 00:31:35,126
if there's an issue
1064
00:31:35,126 --> 00:31:37,629
and you say, I moved forward with this
1065
00:31:37,629 --> 00:31:38,897
and this was the test results,
1066
00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:40,832
did you share them with anybody?
1067
00:31:40,832 --> 00:31:42,166
No, I just took it upon myself
1068
00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:44,402
to say that it was go, go.
1069
00:31:44,402 --> 00:31:45,670
Just because people
1070
00:31:45,670 --> 00:31:47,038
get dragged into these things,
1071
00:31:47,038 --> 00:31:48,206
I would make sure everybody
1072
00:31:48,206 --> 00:31:51,809
has a copy of that of that test result.
1073
00:31:51,876 --> 00:31:53,411
If you are uncomfortable
1074
00:31:53,411 --> 00:31:54,913
doing these of tests or whatever,
1075
00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:57,181
you do a lot of them whenever you hire
1076
00:31:57,181 --> 00:31:58,383
a third party to do them.
1077
00:31:58,383 --> 00:31:59,851
I actually think that's pretty smart
1078
00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:00,852
because
1079
00:32:00,852 --> 00:32:03,321
they don't have a dog in the fight.
1080
00:32:03,321 --> 00:32:03,988
That third party
1081
00:32:03,988 --> 00:32:06,624
is not going to say Yes, go or don't go.
1082
00:32:06,624 --> 00:32:07,592
They're just going to say, here's
1083
00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:16,200
the results of the test and
1084
00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:24,175
yeah,
1085
00:32:24,242 --> 00:32:26,110
You have to look at a job and say,
1086
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:29,180
Can I afford to eat this job?
1087
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,248
Boy, if more people
1088
00:32:30,248 --> 00:32:33,017
started looking at things like that, you,
1089
00:32:33,017 --> 00:32:34,552
you know, that's the last corner
1090
00:32:34,552 --> 00:32:35,486
they would want to cut.
1091
00:32:35,486 --> 00:32:38,222
But that was that's exactly what he does.
1092
00:32:38,222 --> 00:32:40,024
He goes to a third party.
1093
00:32:40,024 --> 00:32:40,725
They come in.
1094
00:32:40,725 --> 00:32:41,492
I don't know what
1095
00:32:41,492 --> 00:32:43,194
what he pays them, whatever It is
1096
00:32:43,194 --> 00:32:44,495
they come in
1097
00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:46,297
and all the paperwork is right there.
1098
00:32:46,297 --> 00:32:48,099
He gives that to the contractor.
1099
00:32:48,099 --> 00:32:50,835
He gives that to anybody involved in it.
1100
00:32:50,835 --> 00:32:52,103
Like, here it is.
1101
00:32:52,103 --> 00:32:55,106
There's all the paperwork.
1102
00:32:55,139 --> 00:32:55,907
yeah.
1103
00:32:55,907 --> 00:32:58,543
And that way, as you can see,
1104
00:32:58,543 --> 00:33:00,211
there was a meeting of the minds,
1105
00:33:00,211 --> 00:33:00,812
you know what I mean?
1106
00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:01,579
That you can tell
1107
00:33:01,579 --> 00:33:02,981
you're not out there by yourself
1108
00:33:02,981 --> 00:33:04,716
because it certainly if
1109
00:33:04,716 --> 00:33:05,283
you didn't
1110
00:33:05,283 --> 00:33:06,317
share it with anybody then
1111
00:33:06,317 --> 00:33:08,486
well you made the call and,
1112
00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:10,421
and unilaterally and what have you.
1113
00:33:10,421 --> 00:33:14,592
So anyhow, I just think it makes sense.
1114
00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:17,662
So like I said, I would say this.
1115
00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:20,732
I listen, I my whole career,
1116
00:33:20,865 --> 00:33:21,332
the reason
1117
00:33:21,332 --> 00:33:23,968
why I went to every individual school,
1118
00:33:23,968 --> 00:33:25,269
the reason why I went to inspector
1119
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:26,004
school, the reason
1120
00:33:26,004 --> 00:33:26,971
why I did all these things,
1121
00:33:26,971 --> 00:33:29,207
because I was motivated by fear.
1122
00:33:29,207 --> 00:33:32,410
That is the 100% driving force
1123
00:33:32,477 --> 00:33:36,014
in my career I was afraid that one,
1124
00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:37,415
I would get called to do a job
1125
00:33:37,415 --> 00:33:38,883
that I didn't know how to do.
1126
00:33:38,883 --> 00:33:39,617
Like someone say
1127
00:33:39,617 --> 00:33:40,718
one of my good customers say, Hey,
1128
00:33:40,718 --> 00:33:41,953
I need you to do a Chevron floor
1129
00:33:41,953 --> 00:33:42,887
or herringbone floor
1130
00:33:42,887 --> 00:33:44,055
and I didn't know how to do it.
1131
00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:45,123
That always
1132
00:33:45,123 --> 00:33:46,024
nagged to me like,
1133
00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:46,691
I don't want to ever be
1134
00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:49,027
in that position too.
1135
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:50,128
I don't like to be wrong
1136
00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:51,195
because when you're wrong,
1137
00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:52,663
you're just wrong.
1138
00:33:52,663 --> 00:33:58,169
And is as a bad, bad place to be.
1139
00:33:58,236 --> 00:34:00,338
I have
1140
00:34:00,338 --> 00:34:04,542
so so I think that
1141
00:34:04,609 --> 00:34:06,511
in in three, I never wanted to eat a job
1142
00:34:06,511 --> 00:34:07,412
like that. I didn't.
1143
00:34:07,412 --> 00:34:09,013
And so that's why I was motivated.
1144
00:34:09,013 --> 00:34:10,681
I fear I didn't have the time.
1145
00:34:10,681 --> 00:34:11,816
I would be mortified,
1146
00:34:11,816 --> 00:34:12,383
first of all,
1147
00:34:12,383 --> 00:34:14,385
to do my everything about my business.
1148
00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:14,919
I just
1149
00:34:14,919 --> 00:34:17,188
and I don't have the time to go back.
1150
00:34:17,188 --> 00:34:20,191
I mean, I you know,
1151
00:34:20,358 --> 00:34:20,892
the worst
1152
00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:22,126
feeling in the world is
1153
00:34:22,126 --> 00:34:24,762
I have to drop back and redo this job
1154
00:34:24,762 --> 00:34:26,364
when I could be on the other side of town
1155
00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:28,166
making a lot of money on this job.
1156
00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:29,467
So not only am I not getting
1157
00:34:29,467 --> 00:34:30,868
the money on this job,
1158
00:34:30,868 --> 00:34:32,003
I'm having to lose money
1159
00:34:32,003 --> 00:34:33,471
on this other job.
1160
00:34:33,471 --> 00:34:36,240
And We don't
1161
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,209
we don't have there's not a there's
1162
00:34:38,209 --> 00:34:39,844
there's not 20 crews out there anymore.
1163
00:34:39,844 --> 00:34:41,112
You only have so many guys
1164
00:34:41,112 --> 00:34:42,647
to make you your money.
1165
00:34:42,647 --> 00:34:44,415
I mean, the having
1166
00:34:44,415 --> 00:34:45,249
the days of having
1167
00:34:45,249 --> 00:34:47,385
those are few and far between now.
1168
00:34:47,385 --> 00:34:48,553
So your time is to me
1169
00:34:48,553 --> 00:34:50,588
is more precious than ever.
1170
00:34:50,588 --> 00:34:51,522
It's a good thing is
1171
00:34:51,522 --> 00:34:52,723
I mean, there's opportunity there.
1172
00:34:52,723 --> 00:34:54,292
I mean you can charge money
1173
00:34:54,292 --> 00:34:54,926
and what have you
1174
00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:56,961
and those are good things.
1175
00:34:56,961 --> 00:34:58,429
But what you can't have is
1176
00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:00,298
you can't have the failures.
1177
00:35:00,298 --> 00:35:01,099
And so I'm just trying
1178
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:02,700
to keep people out of
1179
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:04,602
get themselves in a tough situation.
1180
00:35:04,602 --> 00:35:07,238
I also want to say this to
1181
00:35:07,238 --> 00:35:08,039
what I'm thinking about.
1182
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:12,043
It is the the KSP of a slab of concrete
1183
00:35:12,043 --> 00:35:14,645
surface profile.
1184
00:35:14,712 --> 00:35:16,047
You know,
1185
00:35:16,047 --> 00:35:17,148
they measure it from, say,
1186
00:35:17,148 --> 00:35:18,382
1 to 9 or 1 to 10
1187
00:35:18,382 --> 00:35:19,717
who you talk to, talk to or whatever.
1188
00:35:19,717 --> 00:35:22,620
But but you, you know,
1189
00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:23,754
you got to have a slab
1190
00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:25,323
that is not too smooth,
1191
00:35:25,323 --> 00:35:27,391
that will accept the adhesive,
1192
00:35:27,391 --> 00:35:29,127
that adhesive will grab to it.
1193
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:31,529
And I think most people know that.
1194
00:35:31,529 --> 00:35:33,030
But what I've seen a few times,
1195
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:33,931
if someone says,
1196
00:35:33,931 --> 00:35:34,732
yeah, no, we go in there,
1197
00:35:34,732 --> 00:35:35,633
we grind the concrete,
1198
00:35:35,633 --> 00:35:37,802
we say in the concrete,
1199
00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:39,470
but they're really polishing
1200
00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:40,972
that concrete so much
1201
00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:42,840
that they're almost putting a surface
1202
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,107
on there
1203
00:35:43,107 --> 00:35:43,808
that is like,
1204
00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:45,042
that's, that's not acceptable,
1205
00:35:45,042 --> 00:35:46,344
is too smooth.
1206
00:35:46,344 --> 00:35:48,112
They'll just be aware of that,
1207
00:35:48,112 --> 00:35:48,613
that you
1208
00:35:48,613 --> 00:35:50,414
when you when you prepare the slab.
1209
00:35:50,414 --> 00:35:51,415
And also
1210
00:35:51,415 --> 00:35:51,949
when I talked about
1211
00:35:51,949 --> 00:35:53,184
carrying compounds on there
1212
00:35:53,184 --> 00:35:55,553
or if the concrete is too smooth,
1213
00:35:55,553 --> 00:35:56,754
you can do a simple test.
1214
00:35:56,754 --> 00:35:58,055
It's still effective.
1215
00:35:58,055 --> 00:35:59,023
It's just poor water
1216
00:35:59,023 --> 00:36:01,125
droplets on that slab and see if it
1217
00:36:01,125 --> 00:36:03,027
if it if you know what's out
1218
00:36:03,027 --> 00:36:05,396
or B just stays sitting
1219
00:36:05,396 --> 00:36:06,898
on that slab in a in a
1220
00:36:06,898 --> 00:36:09,534
in a like a bubble or whatever.
1221
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,135
It gives you an indication of that.
1222
00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:12,737
There's something on there.
1223
00:36:12,737 --> 00:36:13,437
And by the way,
1224
00:36:13,437 --> 00:36:14,972
if you do have to shop large
1225
00:36:14,972 --> 00:36:17,975
let's see have when I said that
1226
00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:19,010
a slab might have carrying
1227
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:20,945
compounds on it,
1228
00:36:20,945 --> 00:36:22,113
you you have to shop
1229
00:36:22,113 --> 00:36:23,648
like I said off there,
1230
00:36:23,648 --> 00:36:25,449
but that's when you need to do
1231
00:36:25,449 --> 00:36:27,084
your, your testing,
1232
00:36:27,084 --> 00:36:28,686
not before
1233
00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:29,620
you do it before or whatever
1234
00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:31,589
but the real test is after you shop
1235
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:32,490
last slab
1236
00:36:32,490 --> 00:36:33,758
is when you should do your testing
1237
00:36:33,758 --> 00:36:35,193
because that will change
1238
00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:36,661
the moisture dynamic in that slot,
1239
00:36:36,661 --> 00:36:38,029
in that slab
1240
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:39,230
and some other things about it.
1241
00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:40,097
So that's
1242
00:36:40,097 --> 00:36:41,132
what do you want to make sure you do
1243
00:36:41,132 --> 00:36:45,102
your tests off of that surface.
1244
00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:48,906
Okay.
1245
00:36:48,973 --> 00:36:56,614
Yeah, perfect.
1246
00:36:56,681 --> 00:36:59,550
No, you can't.
1247
00:36:59,550 --> 00:37:01,018
yeah. Slowly.
1248
00:37:01,018 --> 00:37:05,189
Yeah,
1249
00:37:05,289 --> 00:37:06,591
yeah,
1250
00:37:06,657 --> 00:37:08,125
yeah, yeah, yeah.
1251
00:37:08,125 --> 00:37:11,395
We scared of being a sissy.
1252
00:37:11,462 --> 00:37:14,332
Absolutely.
1253
00:37:14,332 --> 00:37:15,032
Calcium chloride.
1254
00:37:15,032 --> 00:37:16,100
When you do your tests,
1255
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:17,468
you should do them in
1256
00:37:17,468 --> 00:37:20,171
in, you know, a couple of them, actually.
1257
00:37:20,171 --> 00:37:21,439
Well, you probably know
1258
00:37:21,439 --> 00:37:23,407
there's three per thousand square feet
1259
00:37:23,407 --> 00:37:25,409
and then one prairie every thousands
1260
00:37:25,409 --> 00:37:26,277
square foot after that.
1261
00:37:26,277 --> 00:37:27,211
But you know,
1262
00:37:27,211 --> 00:37:28,613
put some a towards
1263
00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:29,447
the outside walls
1264
00:37:29,447 --> 00:37:31,849
where you would expect more moisture
1265
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:33,951
and then some in the center also.
1266
00:37:33,951 --> 00:37:35,253
So, yes.
1267
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:36,187
And I actually
1268
00:37:36,187 --> 00:37:38,756
I put a newspaper down there.
1269
00:37:38,756 --> 00:37:40,524
It's a paper trail, you know what I mean?
1270
00:37:40,524 --> 00:37:40,891
That is
1271
00:37:40,891 --> 00:37:42,493
when I did my testing or what have you.
1272
00:37:42,493 --> 00:37:43,661
So.
1273
00:37:43,661 --> 00:37:44,128
All right.
1274
00:37:44,128 --> 00:37:46,664
So I just.
1275
00:37:46,664 --> 00:37:47,598
Yeah, yeah.
1276
00:37:47,598 --> 00:37:48,966
No, no.
1277
00:37:48,966 --> 00:37:49,800
Just because you like
1278
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,601
reading the newspaper
1279
00:37:50,601 --> 00:37:52,770
while you're waiting on the tests.
1280
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:54,505
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
1281
00:37:54,505 --> 00:37:56,107
For the date. Yeah.
1282
00:37:56,173 --> 00:37:58,075
So anyhow,
1283
00:37:58,075 --> 00:37:58,709
what's going on with that
1284
00:37:58,709 --> 00:37:59,510
child in the background?
1285
00:37:59,510 --> 00:38:04,882
Is he being tortured?
1286
00:38:04,949 --> 00:38:06,784
Of course,
1287
00:38:06,784 --> 00:38:10,688
yeah.
1288
00:38:10,755 --> 00:38:14,692
Well,
1289
00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:21,098
yeah.
1290
00:38:21,165 --> 00:38:22,133
no kidding.
1291
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:24,402
That's nice
1292
00:38:24,402 --> 00:38:28,572
and sweet.
1293
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:33,377
Yeah.
1294
00:38:33,477 --> 00:38:36,480
Okay.
1295
00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:37,948
Okay.
1296
00:38:37,948 --> 00:38:39,350
Very nice.
1297
00:38:39,350 --> 00:38:40,351
Okay, Rob.
1298
00:38:40,351 --> 00:38:41,585
Well, are the only
1299
00:38:41,585 --> 00:38:42,687
the only thing I'm going to add to
1300
00:38:42,687 --> 00:38:44,088
this episode is
1301
00:38:44,088 --> 00:38:44,889
I know they
1302
00:38:44,889 --> 00:38:46,691
they're announcing the the the
1303
00:38:46,691 --> 00:38:47,925
the for the year winners.
1304
00:38:47,925 --> 00:38:50,828
I know a couple of guys that won already,
1305
00:38:50,828 --> 00:38:52,296
so
1306
00:38:52,296 --> 00:38:53,164
I'm excited for them.
1307
00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:53,831
We'll talk to well,
1308
00:38:53,831 --> 00:38:54,632
maybe we'll have some guests
1309
00:38:54,632 --> 00:38:58,402
on that one for years this year
1310
00:38:58,502 --> 00:38:59,637
so.
1311
00:38:59,637 --> 00:39:01,005
Well stay tuned for that.
1312
00:39:01,005 --> 00:39:02,206
That'll be kind of cool to talk to those
1313
00:39:02,206 --> 00:39:03,207
I'm excited for.
1314
00:39:03,207 --> 00:39:04,375
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1315
00:39:04,375 --> 00:39:05,643
Right on.
1316
00:39:05,643 --> 00:39:07,678
Okay. There you go.
1317
00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:08,913
This has been another episode
1318
00:39:08,913 --> 00:39:10,314
of On the Floor with Wendy, Rob,
1319
00:39:10,314 --> 00:39:11,549
please stay tuned for another episode.