On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Value of Education - Installs with guest Mike Dittmer

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob continue their education series by hosting guest Mike Dittmer to discuss installations. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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Hello.

 

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Welcome to another

 

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episode of On the Floor

 

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with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne Highlander,

 

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director of Sales, Bona Adhesives.

 

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I'm Rob Johnson from Bona Training.

 

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All Very good.

 

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Happy Easter

 

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or Happy Easter Coming up.

 

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Yeah. Yep.

 

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It's Hey,

 

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you know,

 

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we didn't talk

 

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about the last couple shows.

 

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You know what episode

 

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this is?

 

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This is 250

 

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to 2 episodes ago.

 

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I think it's 252.

 

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We did our 250th episode.

 

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I thought we'd.

 

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Have ten.

 

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Or 12 when we started this thing.

 

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I said we could probably do 12 podcasts

 

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about Santa for.

 

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That's pretty, pretty remarkable.

 

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lot of people celebrate their 252nd

 

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of

 

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What we just blew past 250.

 

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Like, Hey, we get

 

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yeah, we get we're heading to 500.

 

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We're going to be the

 

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we're going to be the Gunsmoke

 

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of podcasts.

 

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There you go.

 

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Well, yeah.

 

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The,

 

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the what you call it.

 

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We should be in reruns now.

 

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Actually we are, we do a couple of reruns

 

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It is.

 

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So you're on the.

 

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Air because we got pretty lazy.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Yeah,

 

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O Dairy covered Man.

 

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That is such

 

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that it's such a flawed man thing.

 

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there are only a few people in the world

 

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saw that.

 

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Look at that.

 

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Eight cats in death.

 

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The cat's near death.

 

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What are the show?

 

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Who would do that right

 

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in front of the entry

 

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like that stupid swipe.

 

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And you got really the cat on it

 

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right?

 

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Yes.

 

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Yeah, They're better than us.

 

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They're better than me.

 

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Yeah, Yeah.

 

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yeah.

 

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quarter mile.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Yes.

 

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Yeah,

 

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yeah, yeah.

 

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Okay.

 

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Yeah, be that would be like, okay,

 

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that's not acceptable,

 

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Okay.

 

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is it? I Yeah.

 

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Yeah.

 

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So you should I think you should do.

 

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And instead of watching all these people

 

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and driving you insane, just,

 

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just walk down to the store

 

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and get a bag of nuts or something.

 

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Keep yourself busy.

 

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You don't see me.

 

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Stop looking

 

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for everybody to piss you off.

 

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Just go get some nuts or something and

 

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or some hard candy to keep yourself busy,

 

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you know.

 

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Instead of.

 

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I like this guy's.

 

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Driving me crazy that guys drive.

 

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You look hard enough.

 

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You you'll be

 

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annoyed with everybody, man.

 

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Just traveling

 

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is tough enough on yourself.

 

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I am a great life.

 

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Good donut.

 

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I would be.

 

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I am a life coach.

 

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I'm coaching.

 

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I'm coaching like a dozen lives right now

 

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and not getting paid for any of it.

 

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But yeah,

 

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go get some lifesavers or something

 

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next time you're feeling all pissed off

 

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because this woman is out there

 

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trying to walk

 

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because she's going to be

 

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cramped up for 2 hours.

 

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way more in better shape

 

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than her husband was.

 

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I just want to go.

 

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Just be honest with me.

 

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That's annoying as hell, right?

 

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What she's doing right now on.

 

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You know, that's annoying, right?

 

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Maybe I'll go get some

 

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That there you go.

 

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Well, Wayne, we have a special guest

 

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and this is part three of our ongoing

 

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mini series of education.

 

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This is the first on the floor

 

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mini series.

 

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Now we're in episode number.

 

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Today's guest is my one of my most

 

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dear friends here at Bona.

 

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He's joined the training team.

 

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DETMER How long you been on now?

 

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Two years.

 

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Two years

 

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since that

 

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Two years since that first trip

 

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you and I took to.

 

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I don't know where the hell it was.

 

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In November,

 

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we we landed in Memphis

 

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and then drove into the bowels of

 

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Mississippi or something.

 

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And at about

 

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2:00 in the morning.

 

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That's right.

 

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That's right.

 

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Well, we have Mike DETMER on today.

 

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Like I said.

 

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To part three of our Education series,

 

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and Mike has just

 

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taken training out a whole new door.

 

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I mean, I remember

 

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when did our

 

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our first training with Mike,

 

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I think it was

 

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maybe a year

 

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and a half ago in New Jersey.

 

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And I said,

 

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I can't believe it, but Bona is now doing

 

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install schools.

 

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And it just

 

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I mean, it was tying

 

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with everything

 

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that Highlander's doing with his team.

 

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It just seemed like this is definitely

 

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the way that we have to go.

 

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We had to start doing install schools

 

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and I. Know

 

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you could just hear the grumblings.

 

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I think in the industry is like, Great,

 

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now Bowen is going to do install schools.

 

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Is there going to be anything left

 

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for anybody else?

 

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And the answer is no.

 

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We're we're taking over everything. So

 

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so take it away.

 

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Mike. Well, we.

 

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I think it's.

 

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It's turned it into an adhesive world.

 

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And I think that's kind of where

 

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where

 

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kind of where I kind of fit in

 

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that would be installed

 

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is anything on a slab,

 

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anything that wider than four inch

 

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It needs to be

 

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put down with the adhesive,

 

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whether it be glue, nail axes,

 

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a herringbone parquet, a regular parquet

 

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that's kind of kind of where I,

 

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I fill in it.

 

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And so typically we'll,

 

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we'll start out with this the basic

 

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glue down nail assist install

 

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and we'll kind of go over the

 

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guidelines on how to do that properly and

 

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making sure that your

 

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your insulation won't pass.

 

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And we say mustard.

 

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So you'll,

 

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you know,

 

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you won't have to worry about any

 

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that coming from our point of view.

 

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The 540 with our adhesive

 

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if you're not going

 

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to have any problems with

 

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just making sure

 

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you don't need the right way,

 

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just as far as the straight length,

 

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the blue nails. And then

 

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from there, we kind of

 

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big into a herringbone layout.

 

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Hey, I got to stop you for one second

 

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because I know Wayne.

 

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Wayne is still here and.

 

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Dove fly right now.

 

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When you said.

 

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Well, it's turned into an adhesive world,

 

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Look at that.

 

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Look,

 

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I haven't seen him smile

 

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like he's smiling right now.

 

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Mike, I just wish you could see him.

 

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It's an it.

 

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He's of world,

 

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and Highlander is right in the middle of.

 

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He's just so happy.

 

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I am.

 

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So.

 

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Well, I could be annoyed at the airport.

 

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I'm easily

 

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A

 

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You know, Kareen,

 

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we had Kareen on

 

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and he was talking about his schools

 

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and he said, you know,

 

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one of the things I love about.

 

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The schools.

 

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That I do is it's really hands. On.

 

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He goes, you know,

 

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we're not watching a lot of videos.

 

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And PowerPoints and stuff like that.

 

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He goes, it's it's hands on.

 

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And when I was thinking about

 

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you, Mike,

 

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I remember when we did that

 

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Herringbone layout school in New Jersey,

 

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and Mike had the treadmill pointed out.

 

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Wayne And he's showing everybody on the

 

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on the main

 

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how we're going to lay this out

 

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and everything.

 

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He got all the lines laid out.

 

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He's all done.

 

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And I thought,

 

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okay, well,

 

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we're going to start laying now.

 

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No, not Mike.

 

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He had a power drive

 

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and erased all his lines.

 

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So you want to talk?

 

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Hands on

 

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that. Hands on.

 

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Now, Mike stood up

 

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and he's like, okay, now you guys do it.

 

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You saw I did it.

 

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I thought it was great.

 

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So I was like, What the hell is he doing?

 

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I thought,

 

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We're going to start laying now.

 

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I was like, okay, now I get it.

 

269

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Now I see the method, his magic or

 

270

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the magic to his method.

 

271

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It does it kind of showcases

 

272

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all of the products in our system

 

273

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besides, besides talking about how

 

274

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to install a herringbone floor.

 

275

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Well, we'll,

 

276

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we'll talk about other scenarios

 

277

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like how big the herringbone pattern

 

278

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should be.

 

279

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I mean,

 

280

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should it be a three by 16, a three by 21

 

281

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or a four by 14 in which direction?

 

282

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So the hearing going go into

 

283

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and we'll

 

284

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we'll go through the different

 

285

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scenarios that no contract

 

286

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is going to have to have

 

287

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with the customer.

 

288

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You know,

 

289

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the customer calls the up

 

290

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and they've seen a couple magazine

 

291

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pictures of herringbone floor

 

292

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and they you know,

 

293

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they just want a herringbone

 

294

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for their dining room

 

295

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and they don't know what species

 

296

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it should be

 

297

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or which direction

 

298

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it should run

 

299

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or how big the ticket should be.

 

300

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And they're relying

 

301

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upon you to be the expert.

 

302

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And so it's it's

 

303

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building up their confidence

 

304

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in the contractor

 

305

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that they are the expert and, hey,

 

306

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this room is running long ways.

 

307

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The herringbone pick.

 

308

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It should go towards that

 

309

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big screen TV or that beautiful fireplace

 

310

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or to that beautiful view over the lake.

 

311

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And so it's about

 

312

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educating the contractor on

 

313

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on having that conversation

 

314

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with the homeowner to make sure that they

 

315

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have the presentation down to

 

316

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Yeah.

 

317

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And I know you talk about this, Mike,

 

318

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where some people say, okay,

 

319

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well I'm going to put a five inch border

 

320

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around this whole thing.

 

321

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But when you

 

322

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when lay it out ahead of time

 

323

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where you do some thinking and planning

 

324

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and you realize that maybe five inch

 

325

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isn't the way to go,

 

326

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maybe it makes more sense

 

327

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to go to a six inch or four inch

 

328

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just just painting.

 

329

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On how it lays out or making those

 

330

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or making those last pick

 

331

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gets a little bit longer.

 

332

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Just customize the last one by

 

333

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and by an inch and a half or so.

 

334

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That won't be noticeable

 

335

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rather than having a small piece.

 

336

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And there's a lot to talk about.

 

337

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A lot of things

 

338

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go into these things and that

 

339

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and you know, you can get into

 

340

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your labor costs

 

341

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for doing a custom floor

 

342

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like because these are

 

343

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highly custom floors, very time consuming

 

344

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custom floors, but

 

345

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especially with the recent. Today.

 

346

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And the techniques

 

347

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that you guys go over, I think managers

 

348

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can't miss for the school.

 

349

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No, I think all the students are

 

350

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when they leave,

 

351

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they're they're very appreciative

 

352

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of what they've learned

 

353

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and what we present to them.

 

354

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So they you know,

 

355

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they have the confidence to sell the job.

 

356

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They have the confidence to do the job.

 

357

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Yep.

 

358

00:16:21,914 --> 00:16:23,382

So, Wayne, tell us

 

359

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about what highlight

 

360

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what adhesives going to highlight at.

 

361

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All these schools.

 

362

00:16:28,754 --> 00:16:29,154

Well, I.

 

363

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Mean, you know,

 

364

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obviously it's going to be bone a floor.

 

365

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It's going to be the 851

 

366

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But I think you also

 

367

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we can show the vertical

 

368

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for your starters.

 

369

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We can show the 544

 

370

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the mitigation system.

 

371

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I mean, we can just tie.

 

372

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All sorts of things up with that,

 

373

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with, with.

 

374

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Just about all of your. Products.

 

375

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play And then

 

376

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you talk about the, the,

 

377

00:16:58,584 --> 00:16:59,585

some of the track saws

 

378

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and that kind of stuff and

 

379

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how that can that, can help

 

380

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in any planning,

 

381

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the putting of borders,

 

382

00:17:05,657 --> 00:17:07,126

planning everything.

 

383

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I think all that you know, it's

 

384

00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,496

one thing to talk about it and lay it out

 

385

00:17:10,496 --> 00:17:12,264

and look at it or read about it,

 

386

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but get your hands on it

 

387

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and get on your hands and knees

 

388

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and actually do it.

 

389

00:17:16,535 --> 00:17:18,303

And where you come across

 

390

00:17:18,303 --> 00:17:20,205

some of the challenges,

 

391

00:17:20,205 --> 00:17:21,507

then it puts a whole different

 

392

00:17:21,507 --> 00:17:22,808

paint job it

 

393

00:17:22,808 --> 00:17:24,510

and then when you leave there

 

394

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and most of us

 

395

00:17:25,577 --> 00:17:26,245

know, most of us

 

396

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learn by actually doing it right.

 

397

00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:31,583

I'm a visual guy and whatever, but

 

398

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if I get put my hands on it

 

399

00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:34,453

and do it a little bit or whatever,

 

400

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and then it always clicks with me

 

401

00:17:35,954 --> 00:17:38,257

and then I can take that to my next job.

 

402

00:17:38,257 --> 00:17:41,260

But if I read about it in a in,

 

403

00:17:41,393 --> 00:17:42,594

you know, and try to,

 

404

00:17:42,594 --> 00:17:43,028

you know,

 

405

00:17:43,028 --> 00:17:44,563

get it off reading it,

 

406

00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:46,732

sometimes it's much more difficult.

 

407

00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:48,333

So, yeah,

 

408

00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:49,334

we're doing these classes

 

409

00:17:49,334 --> 00:17:50,669

across the country you

 

410

00:17:50,669 --> 00:17:52,004

I know we have a few coming up.

 

411

00:17:52,004 --> 00:17:53,172

We'll be doing one in Texas

 

412

00:17:53,172 --> 00:17:54,440

here and a couple other places

 

413

00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,009

across the country in California.

 

414

00:17:57,009 --> 00:17:57,609

if you're interested

 

415

00:17:57,609 --> 00:17:58,510

in going to one of these classes,

 

416

00:17:58,510 --> 00:18:00,279

you certainly get a hold of me or Rob

 

417

00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,082

or Mike or one of your territory manager

 

418

00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:05,851

and love to have you on board for it.

 

419

00:18:05,851 --> 00:18:07,653

Mike, while you're there,

 

420

00:18:07,653 --> 00:18:09,021

people have questions

 

421

00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:10,989

about other pattern flaws.

 

422

00:18:10,989 --> 00:18:12,558

Can you get into some of those

 

423

00:18:12,558 --> 00:18:13,158

I talk about?

 

424

00:18:13,158 --> 00:18:14,193

Those are like a route

 

425

00:18:14,193 --> 00:18:15,694

round pattern, floor or basket.

 

426

00:18:15,694 --> 00:18:20,032

We even talk about.

 

427

00:18:20,132 --> 00:18:21,300

we'll start.

 

428

00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:22,301

It is a herringbone

 

429

00:18:22,301 --> 00:18:23,836

because that's kind of a

 

430

00:18:23,836 --> 00:18:24,803

I don't know, it's

 

431

00:18:24,803 --> 00:18:27,172

kind of a generic thing to start with.

 

432

00:18:27,172 --> 00:18:29,741

And you can go to both distributors

 

433

00:18:29,741 --> 00:18:30,943

and buy herringbone

 

434

00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:33,011

it right off the shelf.

 

435

00:18:33,011 --> 00:18:34,780

And so it's kind of a good intro.

 

436

00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:37,349

And then we'll we'll go into

 

437

00:18:37,349 --> 00:18:38,884

how to make a Rams pattern,

 

438

00:18:38,884 --> 00:18:39,751

how to make a

 

439

00:18:39,751 --> 00:18:41,153

Monticello pattern,

 

440

00:18:41,153 --> 00:18:43,622

or even how to make a heading pattern.

 

441

00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:47,126

And it will show the guys of how to

 

442

00:18:47,226 --> 00:18:49,461

build a jig to go on the table.

 

443

00:18:49,461 --> 00:18:52,131

So to do repetitive pieces

 

444

00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:53,432

to make the own herringbone

 

445

00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:54,633

say they have.

 

446

00:18:54,633 --> 00:18:55,367

I don't know

 

447

00:18:55,367 --> 00:18:56,301

if they had a customer

 

448

00:18:56,301 --> 00:18:57,536

that just wanted to

 

449

00:18:57,536 --> 00:18:59,004

look for the select red floor,

 

450

00:18:59,004 --> 00:18:59,905

but they did want

 

451

00:18:59,905 --> 00:19:01,840

any board under three foot

 

452

00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,376

long installed in their floor

 

453

00:19:04,476 --> 00:19:04,910

until the

 

454

00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:06,845

contractors left with

 

455

00:19:06,845 --> 00:19:09,148

four or 500 feet of shorts.

 

456

00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:11,650

So it's like, well, we'll show them jigs

 

457

00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:13,418

they can put on the table side jigs,

 

458

00:19:13,418 --> 00:19:14,620

they could put the miter saw

 

459

00:19:14,620 --> 00:19:15,821

that they can build,

 

460

00:19:15,821 --> 00:19:16,822

that they can

 

461

00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:18,991

make parquet patterns out of it.

 

462

00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:21,627

And it might be something where you say,

 

463

00:19:21,627 --> 00:19:23,162

that's a pretty cool batter.

 

464

00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:25,564

Well, let me make 100 of batteries

 

465

00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:26,965

and put it in the warehouse

 

466

00:19:26,965 --> 00:19:28,800

or put it in the corner of the shop

 

467

00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,235

and throw one of the truck

 

468

00:19:30,235 --> 00:19:32,004

finished as a sample.

 

469

00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:34,306

So then when you go on that estimate

 

470

00:19:34,306 --> 00:19:35,741

and you know,

 

471

00:19:35,741 --> 00:19:37,209

the customer is hemming and hawing

 

472

00:19:37,209 --> 00:19:39,478

whether they want to pick you or or,

 

473

00:19:39,478 --> 00:19:40,212

you know,

 

474

00:19:40,212 --> 00:19:42,648

what are times for service,

 

475

00:19:42,648 --> 00:19:44,616

you can bring parquet and say,

 

476

00:19:44,616 --> 00:19:46,952

Hey, you know what? We could drop off

 

477

00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:47,452

an eight

 

478

00:19:47,452 --> 00:19:48,420

by eight parquet

 

479

00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:49,087

log in the middle

 

480

00:19:49,087 --> 00:19:50,556

of your four year hearing.

 

481

00:19:50,556 --> 00:19:51,056

And you know what?

 

482

00:19:51,056 --> 00:19:52,024

If you do the whole job,

 

483

00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:54,660

I'll just give you that part.

 

484

00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:56,061

Yeah.

 

485

00:19:56,061 --> 00:19:56,595

Good, good.

 

486

00:19:56,595 --> 00:19:57,930

Good point. Especially. Yeah.

 

487

00:19:57,930 --> 00:19:58,764

You're a lot of your

 

488

00:19:58,764 --> 00:20:00,399

I seen a guy do a flurry other day

 

489

00:20:00,399 --> 00:20:02,100

that was all leftovers

 

490

00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:02,935

and it's beautiful,

 

491

00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:03,902

it was just beautiful.

 

492

00:20:03,902 --> 00:20:04,836

It was all leftover

 

493

00:20:04,836 --> 00:20:05,737

material So he's not

 

494

00:20:05,737 --> 00:20:07,105

you're not having to pay for the material

 

495

00:20:07,105 --> 00:20:09,241

on, on the job.

 

496

00:20:09,241 --> 00:20:12,010

What are some mistakes that you see

 

497

00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:16,582

guys use doing Mike on Herringbone.

 

498

00:20:16,682 --> 00:20:19,284

probably say the first mistake

 

499

00:20:19,284 --> 00:20:20,185

and this happened

 

500

00:20:20,185 --> 00:20:22,955

when we did a school in Toronto about

 

501

00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:25,290

a month or so back, is

 

502

00:20:25,290 --> 00:20:28,060

we'll get too many guys involved in it

 

503

00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:31,930

doing the center lines in the starting.

 

504

00:20:31,997 --> 00:20:32,464

It should be

 

505

00:20:32,464 --> 00:20:35,467

one guy and one tape measure

 

506

00:20:35,701 --> 00:20:38,403

marks the lines to start the hearing down

 

507

00:20:38,403 --> 00:20:41,406

in the middle of the floor.

 

508

00:20:41,506 --> 00:20:43,475

Each year, each state measure

 

509

00:20:43,475 --> 00:20:46,278

noses a little bit differently.

 

510

00:20:46,278 --> 00:20:48,247

And if you get

 

511

00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:50,782

two or three guys involved determining

 

512

00:20:50,782 --> 00:20:51,917

what the central point

 

513

00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:54,920

is of that parquet pattern,

 

514

00:20:55,053 --> 00:20:57,189

one guy might see five six,

 

515

00:20:57,189 --> 00:20:58,390

the other guy might see

 

516

00:20:58,390 --> 00:21:00,459

5/8 on a state measure,

 

517

00:21:00,459 --> 00:21:01,760

and then they

 

518

00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,228

divide that in half

 

519

00:21:03,228 --> 00:21:05,430

and then they drop that line

 

520

00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:06,732

and it's only off,

 

521

00:21:06,732 --> 00:21:07,032

you know,

 

522

00:21:07,032 --> 00:21:08,867

maybe on that length of six foot,

 

523

00:21:08,867 --> 00:21:11,270

it's only off 3/8 of an inch.

 

524

00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:14,273

But then one, two multiplied by

 

525

00:21:14,306 --> 00:21:17,676

I don't know if the room is 14 foot wide.

 

526

00:21:17,743 --> 00:21:19,978

Now your tickets could be off an inch

 

527

00:21:19,978 --> 00:21:22,748

into the half in the left to the right.

 

528

00:21:22,814 --> 00:21:35,761

Yeah.

 

529

00:21:35,861 --> 00:21:37,629

So I'll tell you a real quick story.

 

530

00:21:37,629 --> 00:21:39,564

You're honest Boonstra

 

531

00:21:39,564 --> 00:21:40,165

I think that's how

 

532

00:21:40,165 --> 00:21:41,400

you pronounce the last.

 

533

00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,735

We're we get along really well.

 

534

00:21:43,735 --> 00:21:44,169

We talk.

 

535

00:21:44,169 --> 00:21:45,070

He's a competitor of ours,

 

536

00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:46,338

but he's, he's a great guy.

 

537

00:21:46,338 --> 00:21:48,040

And, you know, I respect him.

 

538

00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,742

And we were in a class one time.

 

539

00:21:50,742 --> 00:21:53,512

And you know your point, Mike,

 

540

00:21:53,512 --> 00:21:55,180

about several people

 

541

00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:56,581

making the measurements.

 

542

00:21:56,581 --> 00:21:56,815

You know,

 

543

00:21:56,815 --> 00:21:58,150

you got five guys here and different

 

544

00:21:58,150 --> 00:21:59,284

guys are measuring different things

 

545

00:21:59,284 --> 00:21:59,685

and whatever.

 

546

00:21:59,685 --> 00:22:02,487

Any snap line and then get real loud.

 

547

00:22:02,487 --> 00:22:03,989

And then it was lunchtime

 

548

00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:04,389

when I

 

549

00:22:04,389 --> 00:22:04,823

when I

 

550

00:22:04,823 --> 00:22:05,924

checked the tape measure,

 

551

00:22:05,924 --> 00:22:07,225

it was like an inch and half off

 

552

00:22:07,225 --> 00:22:08,660

from one side to the other.

 

553

00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:11,663

And me and, and your eyes were looking at

 

554

00:22:11,863 --> 00:22:13,332

and you go, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

555

00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:15,133

That's a, it's a, it's off isn't it.

 

556

00:22:15,133 --> 00:22:16,268

Yeah.

 

557

00:22:16,268 --> 00:22:16,868

Because I asked,

 

558

00:22:16,868 --> 00:22:17,202

you know

 

559

00:22:17,202 --> 00:22:18,837

what we're going to do about that now.

 

560

00:22:18,837 --> 00:22:20,172

So we're scratching our head.

 

561

00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:22,374

It was lunch time. I sit here no problem.

 

562

00:22:22,374 --> 00:22:23,442

So I took a screw gun

 

563

00:22:23,442 --> 00:22:24,710

and I screwed the wall

 

564

00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:25,644

with a wall and an inch

 

565

00:22:25,644 --> 00:22:36,421

and a half on that side.

 

566

00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:37,889

That's what my son calls us.

 

567

00:22:37,889 --> 00:22:38,657

Panel Kings.

 

568

00:22:38,657 --> 00:22:39,658

Now your panel.

 

569

00:22:39,658 --> 00:22:43,528

Kings,

 

570

00:22:43,628 --> 00:22:44,196

Panel.

 

571

00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:44,863

KING.

 

572

00:22:44,863 --> 00:22:45,964

You know, Mike,

 

573

00:22:45,964 --> 00:22:46,865

you're really turned

 

574

00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:48,166

into a thorn in my side.

 

575

00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:50,335

I mean,

 

576

00:22:50,335 --> 00:22:52,304

I love that you're the team.

 

577

00:22:52,304 --> 00:22:54,673

You just brought

 

578

00:22:54,673 --> 00:22:57,409

the best free agent signing ever.

 

579

00:22:57,409 --> 00:22:59,311

I said today.

 

580

00:22:59,311 --> 00:23:01,480

You just completely opened up training

 

581

00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,447

to a whole new world.

 

582

00:23:02,447 --> 00:23:04,816

But you're making my life miserable.

 

583

00:23:04,816 --> 00:23:05,984

Okay.

 

584

00:23:05,984 --> 00:23:08,387

I've got guys now Who?

 

585

00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:09,688

Because he mentioned Toronto,

 

586

00:23:09,688 --> 00:23:13,091

so I got to go to Toronto.

 

587

00:23:13,158 --> 00:23:13,692

I got two guys

 

588

00:23:13,692 --> 00:23:14,693

who have never

 

589

00:23:14,693 --> 00:23:17,229

ran a machine in their life,

 

590

00:23:17,229 --> 00:23:19,431

half a dozen at the school.

 

591

00:23:19,431 --> 00:23:21,366

And we're walking into Mike's

 

592

00:23:21,366 --> 00:23:25,137

beautiful Chevron patterns and parquet

 

593

00:23:25,137 --> 00:23:29,708

panels and Herringbone

 

594

00:23:29,775 --> 00:23:30,208

laces.

 

595

00:23:30,208 --> 00:23:32,477

You guys are really learning real.

 

596

00:23:32,477 --> 00:23:33,512

World stuff now.

 

597

00:23:33,512 --> 00:23:34,346

Okay.

 

598

00:23:34,346 --> 00:23:35,547

We're not starting with straight

 

599

00:23:35,547 --> 00:23:37,616

laced stuff for you guys. This is.

 

600

00:23:37,616 --> 00:23:38,683

This is the real world.

 

601

00:23:38,683 --> 00:23:40,919

So get your act together.

 

602

00:23:40,919 --> 00:23:43,755

But the worst part is the kid up there.

 

603

00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:44,656

Darren Webb.

 

604

00:23:44,656 --> 00:23:46,224

Awesome. Awesome kid.

 

605

00:23:46,224 --> 00:23:49,261

Love working with this guy. Okay.

 

606

00:23:49,361 --> 00:23:52,097

But all he talked about

 

607

00:23:52,097 --> 00:23:55,133

was how nice Mike is, how Mike doesn't

 

608

00:23:55,133 --> 00:23:56,668

yell at him,

 

609

00:23:56,668 --> 00:23:59,471

how Mike doesn't make him feel bad,

 

610

00:23:59,471 --> 00:24:01,106

how he the whole time

 

611

00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:02,007

he was waiting for Mike

 

612

00:24:02,007 --> 00:24:03,275

to start yelling or,

 

613

00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:05,377

you know, trashing him or something.

 

614

00:24:05,377 --> 00:24:06,211

And he's like, he's

 

615

00:24:06,211 --> 00:24:09,347

just so much nicer than you.

 

616

00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:11,583

He goes, I just didn't know what to do.

 

617

00:24:11,583 --> 00:24:12,417

I didn't.

 

618

00:24:12,417 --> 00:24:13,351

He goes, I thought,

 

619

00:24:13,351 --> 00:24:15,020

I just kept waiting for it to happen,

 

620

00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:17,189

but it never did.

 

621

00:24:17,189 --> 00:24:18,190

I'm like, Yeah, well,

 

622

00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:20,592

he's from he's from the Midwest.

 

623

00:24:20,592 --> 00:24:23,261

So

 

624

00:24:23,261 --> 00:24:26,631

yeah.

 

625

00:24:26,731 --> 00:24:27,232

I.

 

626

00:24:27,232 --> 00:24:29,267

I called Mike now

 

627

00:24:29,267 --> 00:24:30,502

because we're going to do a hearing

 

628

00:24:30,502 --> 00:24:30,969

bull class.

 

629

00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:31,970

I may have been the first one

 

630

00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:32,471

or whatever.

 

631

00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:34,206

And I say, Mike,

 

632

00:24:34,206 --> 00:24:34,806

listen, I know

 

633

00:24:34,806 --> 00:24:35,440

this is your deal

 

634

00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,007

and you can tell me

 

635

00:24:36,007 --> 00:24:36,942

to get back in my lane,

 

636

00:24:36,942 --> 00:24:38,810

but you know what I'm thinking of?

 

637

00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:40,212

Maybe you can also show the guys

 

638

00:24:40,212 --> 00:24:41,112

how to make your own.

 

639

00:24:41,112 --> 00:24:44,115

Homemade tracks are on site.

 

640

00:24:44,282 --> 00:24:47,619

You don't have a festival. And you said,

 

641

00:24:47,686 --> 00:24:48,286

Yeah, get back

 

642

00:24:48,286 --> 00:25:00,765

in your lane.

 

643

00:25:00,832 --> 00:25:01,500

no way.

 

644

00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,368

I just in those words,

 

645

00:25:03,368 --> 00:25:04,936

in order to do quality,

 

646

00:25:04,936 --> 00:25:06,071

you need quality equipment

 

647

00:25:06,071 --> 00:25:08,640

to do quality job. That's that.

 

648

00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,641

Now, you're right.

 

649

00:25:09,641 --> 00:25:10,442

I was. I was.

 

650

00:25:10,442 --> 00:25:12,043

It was out of my lane.

 

651

00:25:12,043 --> 00:25:13,211

So.

 

652

00:25:13,211 --> 00:25:14,446

Somebody told

 

653

00:25:14,446 --> 00:25:15,614

somebody told Wayne

 

654

00:25:15,614 --> 00:25:17,282

to get back in his lane.

 

655

00:25:17,282 --> 00:25:20,585

Yeah, yeah,

 

656

00:25:20,652 --> 00:25:22,521

I guess that's how you floor

 

657

00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:26,191

the year guys can talk to each other.

 

658

00:25:26,291 --> 00:25:27,259

You hear?

 

659

00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:28,527

You hear that? Okay, listen.

 

660

00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,462

You hear it?

 

661

00:25:30,462 --> 00:25:32,197

Yeah. There it is.

 

662

00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:35,433

Yeah. That.

 

663

00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:36,401

Mike,

 

664

00:25:36,401 --> 00:25:38,537

do you also talk about

 

665

00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:40,539

the amount of time and labor?

 

666

00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:42,040

And so I know we can't,

 

667

00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,108

nor do we want to tell people

 

668

00:25:43,108 --> 00:25:44,843

what to charge for doing their work,

 

669

00:25:44,843 --> 00:25:45,610

But maybe

 

670

00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:46,811

do you go into that a little bit

 

671

00:25:46,811 --> 00:25:47,812

about the amount of time

 

672

00:25:47,812 --> 00:25:51,550

it takes to do these jobs and, and,

 

673

00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:52,851

and logistics and building

 

674

00:25:52,851 --> 00:25:55,854

these jobs in your classes classes?

 

675

00:25:55,954 --> 00:25:56,855

will. I will.

 

676

00:25:56,855 --> 00:25:59,491

I'll go on, I'll discuss.

 

677

00:25:59,491 --> 00:26:00,058

You know that.

 

678

00:26:00,058 --> 00:26:02,193

Hey, you need to figure out like,

 

679

00:26:02,193 --> 00:26:03,495

for example, I had a gentleman

 

680

00:26:03,495 --> 00:26:05,297

call me just last week,

 

681

00:26:05,297 --> 00:26:05,530

a couple

 

682

00:26:05,530 --> 00:26:05,997

days ago,

 

683

00:26:05,997 --> 00:26:07,265

about how to beat a job

 

684

00:26:07,265 --> 00:26:09,401

or the job he's never done before.

 

685

00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:10,302

And I'm like,

 

686

00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:12,837

I'm like, You got to figure out what you

 

687

00:26:12,837 --> 00:26:14,072

what you need to make

 

688

00:26:14,072 --> 00:26:15,473

for you and your employees,

 

689

00:26:15,473 --> 00:26:17,042

whether it be two or three guys,

 

690

00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:19,144

what you need to make for a day

 

691

00:26:19,144 --> 00:26:20,779

and what you want

 

692

00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:22,948

is your profit for that job in

 

693

00:26:22,948 --> 00:26:23,882

how many days it's

 

694

00:26:23,882 --> 00:26:25,083

going to take you to do it.

 

695

00:26:25,083 --> 00:26:26,918

Then you need to take

 

696

00:26:26,918 --> 00:26:30,589

all those things into consideration

 

697

00:26:30,655 --> 00:26:34,392

when you're doing and pricing out

 

698

00:26:34,459 --> 00:26:35,160

any type of a

 

699

00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,961

parquet floor,

 

700

00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:37,862

because it's not like a wham, bam,

 

701

00:26:37,862 --> 00:26:38,930

thank you ma'am job.

 

702

00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:41,232

It's it's we're taking our time

 

703

00:26:41,232 --> 00:26:42,267

we're cutting borders out.

 

704

00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:43,902

We're going to

 

705

00:26:43,902 --> 00:26:45,103

spend a lot of extra time,

 

706

00:26:45,103 --> 00:26:47,405

a lot more time than a straight leg

 

707

00:26:47,405 --> 00:26:50,408

during a sanding process.

 

708

00:26:50,442 --> 00:26:52,510

We might try to fill that for twice

 

709

00:26:52,510 --> 00:26:53,612

because, you know,

 

710

00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:54,679

it's a it's

 

711

00:26:54,679 --> 00:26:56,214

going to cost double

 

712

00:26:56,214 --> 00:26:58,083

or triple that of a straight lay.

 

713

00:26:58,083 --> 00:27:01,086

So the customer's expectations

 

714

00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,954

going to go up that much higher.

 

715

00:27:02,954 --> 00:27:03,622

They're going to

 

716

00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:04,856

they're going to want a table top

 

717

00:27:04,856 --> 00:27:05,890

finish on that floor.

 

718

00:27:05,890 --> 00:27:06,591

So there

 

719

00:27:06,591 --> 00:27:08,760

there's not as much room for error

 

720

00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,595

or acceptability of errors

 

721

00:27:10,595 --> 00:27:14,866

in a parkade or as that in a strip floor.

 

722

00:27:14,866 --> 00:27:16,201

So so we need to take that

 

723

00:27:16,201 --> 00:27:18,103

into consideration or judge judging

 

724

00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:22,507

how much time and what we're going

 

725

00:27:22,574 --> 00:27:24,242

And Mike, let me

 

726

00:27:24,242 --> 00:27:25,710

go throw devil's advocate at you.

 

727

00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:29,080

I really want to do one of these jobs.

 

728

00:27:29,147 --> 00:27:30,482

I'll be excited to do it.

 

729

00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:31,549

But I get there in a subfloor

 

730

00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:33,585

is really pretty uneven.

 

731

00:27:33,585 --> 00:27:37,355

You me are give me your $0.02 on it.

 

732

00:27:37,455 --> 00:27:39,357

going to have to have that conversation

 

733

00:27:39,357 --> 00:27:43,161

with the customer that you need to

 

734

00:27:43,228 --> 00:27:43,928

need to fix this up

 

735

00:27:43,928 --> 00:27:45,697

before we can install the shop.

 

736

00:27:45,697 --> 00:27:50,669

And if it's not up to specifications

 

737

00:27:50,769 --> 00:27:54,406

and we're going to have to charge

 

738

00:27:54,406 --> 00:27:56,341

you extra in order to do it.

 

739

00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:58,209

I mean, because it's it's like

 

740

00:27:58,209 --> 00:27:58,777

we don't

 

741

00:27:58,777 --> 00:27:59,144

you know,

 

742

00:27:59,144 --> 00:28:02,347

my my dad's motto is we don't go to work

 

743

00:28:02,414 --> 00:28:02,881

for free.

 

744

00:28:02,881 --> 00:28:04,149

We go to work to make money.

 

745

00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:06,551

And, and yeah, if,

 

746

00:28:06,551 --> 00:28:07,719

if you don't have the ability

 

747

00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:10,255

to determine what that is

 

748

00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:11,790

when you do that

 

749

00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:14,292

job, say it's covered with carpet,

 

750

00:28:14,292 --> 00:28:15,293

we want to make sure you're right.

 

751

00:28:15,293 --> 00:28:18,530

A little notation in

 

752

00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:19,197

coverage here.

 

753

00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:19,931

But that way.

 

754

00:28:19,931 --> 00:28:21,433

So if you pull up the carpet

 

755

00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:23,234

and there's wet plywood or

 

756

00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:24,302

sagging plywood

 

757

00:28:24,302 --> 00:28:26,871

in one corner of the world, then

 

758

00:28:26,871 --> 00:28:27,772

the customer's aware

 

759

00:28:27,772 --> 00:28:29,274

that you might have to charge,

 

760

00:28:29,274 --> 00:28:29,574

you know,

 

761

00:28:29,574 --> 00:28:33,011

whatever, five, $700 to the level

 

762

00:28:33,011 --> 00:28:36,514

that out to an additional layer.

 

763

00:28:36,581 --> 00:28:37,782

Why would you some soft

 

764

00:28:37,782 --> 00:28:38,717

leveling or whatever

 

765

00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:40,085

you might need to do

 

766

00:28:40,085 --> 00:28:42,620

in order to make it an acceptable sub

 

767

00:28:42,620 --> 00:28:45,623

or for you to install that

 

768

00:28:45,757 --> 00:28:47,092

Yes.

 

769

00:28:47,092 --> 00:28:48,259

And I'm going to say this, Mike,

 

770

00:28:48,259 --> 00:28:50,261

is that especially with a pattern

 

771

00:28:50,261 --> 00:28:50,929

for like this,

 

772

00:28:50,929 --> 00:28:52,363

where the what the subfloor is

 

773

00:28:52,363 --> 00:28:53,431

uneven can walk,

 

774

00:28:53,431 --> 00:28:56,434

the pattern can can can walk on you.

 

775

00:28:56,534 --> 00:28:58,937

And also, I'll tell you something else.

 

776

00:28:58,937 --> 00:29:00,138

We've got two super wide

 

777

00:29:00,138 --> 00:29:01,806

plank floors, too.

 

778

00:29:01,806 --> 00:29:03,208

And these wide plank floors

 

779

00:29:03,208 --> 00:29:05,176

don't bridge those things

 

780

00:29:05,176 --> 00:29:07,812

as they don't contour to the slabs

 

781

00:29:07,812 --> 00:29:09,681

as easy as a thinner board.

 

782

00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:11,516

So even on those white plank floors,

 

783

00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:12,650

you really want to make sure

 

784

00:29:12,650 --> 00:29:15,687

you get them some floors flat

 

785

00:29:15,787 --> 00:29:16,688

You do it because

 

786

00:29:16,688 --> 00:29:18,323

you'll get hollow spots.

 

787

00:29:18,323 --> 00:29:21,159

Yep.

 

788

00:29:21,159 --> 00:29:21,659

Hey, Mike,

 

789

00:29:21,659 --> 00:29:23,495

I got to ask a personal question.

 

790

00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:25,964

How old are you?

 

791

00:29:25,964 --> 00:29:27,932

I am 59.

 

792

00:29:27,932 --> 00:29:30,869

You're 59. Okay?

 

793

00:29:30,869 --> 00:29:33,872

Because you just said of

 

794

00:29:34,072 --> 00:29:36,141

a phrase that I haven't heard.

 

795

00:29:36,141 --> 00:29:37,175

In a long time.

 

796

00:29:37,175 --> 00:29:38,176

That's why I had to think.

 

797

00:29:38,176 --> 00:29:40,845

my gosh, he's got.

 

798

00:29:40,845 --> 00:29:41,980

Yeah. Showing your age.

 

799

00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:43,414

Wayne, when's the last time you heard

 

800

00:29:43,414 --> 00:29:45,850

anybody say wham, bam, thank, ma'am?

 

801

00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:49,120

When's the last time you heard that,

 

802

00:29:49,187 --> 00:29:51,022

That's been.

 

803

00:29:51,022 --> 00:29:52,190

Yeah.

 

804

00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:52,724

Yeah.

 

805

00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:53,291

It's been a

 

806

00:29:53,291 --> 00:29:54,726

I don't know when I've heard that

 

807

00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:55,326

Come on.

 

808

00:29:55,326 --> 00:29:56,060

When's the last time

 

809

00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:56,961

you heard somebody says, Hey,

 

810

00:29:56,961 --> 00:29:58,997

you got to love this guy.

 

811

00:29:58,997 --> 00:30:01,733

You see, this is it.

 

812

00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:02,667

You don't get this stuff

 

813

00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:05,303

in anybody else's skulls.

 

814

00:30:05,303 --> 00:30:06,971

Wham, bam, thank you, man.

 

815

00:30:06,971 --> 00:30:11,876

But that's in a song. What song is that?

 

816

00:30:11,976 --> 00:30:12,610

It's in a song.

 

817

00:30:12,610 --> 00:30:14,913

We

 

818

00:30:14,913 --> 00:30:17,582

Come on.

 

819

00:30:17,582 --> 00:30:22,487

I know you don't, but you're not thinking

 

820

00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:24,322

who's Who's Ziggy Stardust?

 

821

00:30:24,322 --> 00:30:26,891

What's his name?

 

822

00:30:26,891 --> 00:30:28,626

You

 

823

00:30:28,626 --> 00:30:31,029

know, I don't think it's him.

 

824

00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:31,696

yeah.

 

825

00:30:31,696 --> 00:30:32,463

Well,

 

826

00:30:32,463 --> 00:30:36,367

yeah, it's not, it's Suffragette City.

 

827

00:30:36,467 --> 00:30:38,603

77 anyway.

 

828

00:30:38,603 --> 00:30:43,508

Yes.

 

829

00:30:43,575 --> 00:30:44,309

Hi, Lynn.

 

830

00:30:44,309 --> 00:30:46,377

Help us. Chris.

 

831

00:30:46,377 --> 00:30:47,345

It was.

 

832

00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:48,346

David Bowie.

 

833

00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:49,881

I think that's it.

 

834

00:30:49,881 --> 00:30:51,449

He's saying Suffragette City, right?

 

835

00:30:51,449 --> 00:30:54,319

Isn't that the name of the song?

 

836

00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:55,520

And that wham, bam,

 

837

00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,722

thank you, ma'am, is in that song

 

838

00:30:57,722 --> 00:30:58,890

100% right.

 

839

00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:02,160

And the other guy you mentioned,

 

840

00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:03,194

I can't remember the guy's name.

 

841

00:31:03,194 --> 00:31:05,730

I said, Now,

 

842

00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:18,810

Iggy Pop.

 

843

00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:19,444

You did.

 

844

00:31:19,444 --> 00:31:22,447

No, no way

 

845

00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:27,285

you did that.

 

846

00:31:27,352 --> 00:31:30,321

Iggy Pop, the singer.

 

847

00:31:30,321 --> 00:31:33,324

Yes.

 

848

00:31:33,491 --> 00:31:37,262

I hope he's not listening to the.

 

849

00:31:37,362 --> 00:31:40,331

And and why I got that?

 

850

00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:42,400

please.

 

851

00:31:42,400 --> 00:32:42,894

Yeah.

 

852

00:32:42,994 --> 00:32:45,430

Like, like it wasn't cool.

 

853

00:32:45,496 --> 00:32:48,833

So All right, now, I.

 

854

00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:49,701

There's two ways

 

855

00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:52,704

to kick somebody in the yeah.

 

856

00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:53,137

know, You

 

857

00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:53,972

hitting the fat part

 

858

00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:55,406

of the cheek problem,

 

859

00:32:55,406 --> 00:33:02,714

But did you do a tailbone kick?

 

860

00:33:02,780 --> 00:33:03,881

Okay.

 

861

00:33:03,881 --> 00:33:04,949

is like big, huge with,

 

862

00:33:04,949 --> 00:33:12,290

like, pushing forward everything Yeah.

 

863

00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:13,091

So?

 

864

00:33:13,091 --> 00:33:13,958

So you.

 

865

00:33:13,958 --> 00:33:15,026

In the beginning of the show,

 

866

00:33:15,026 --> 00:33:17,261

we spit in the people.

 

867

00:33:17,261 --> 00:33:18,429

Show's over

 

868

00:33:18,429 --> 00:33:19,864

and he's walking through the crowd.

 

869

00:33:19,864 --> 00:33:22,000

Show's done.

 

870

00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,634

And. And you just.

 

871

00:33:23,634 --> 00:33:25,269

The whole show

 

872

00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:26,471

has been spoiled

 

873

00:33:26,471 --> 00:33:27,672

because he was fitting it.

 

874

00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:31,976

People just like the lady in the airport

 

875

00:33:32,076 --> 00:33:34,946

who was doing laps driving you crazy.

 

876

00:33:34,946 --> 00:33:36,914

You see the pattern here?

 

877

00:33:36,914 --> 00:33:38,516

You see it.

 

878

00:33:38,516 --> 00:33:39,450

Go.

 

879

00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:42,286

Let it go.

 

880

00:33:42,286 --> 00:33:45,590

Let it go.

 

881

00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:47,458

Well, you know what?

 

882

00:33:47,458 --> 00:33:48,192

You're all the people

 

883

00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:50,028

who are listening to the show

 

884

00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:53,931

who got Spit On by Iggy Pop.

 

885

00:33:53,998 --> 00:33:56,234

Wayne Got you.

 

886

00:33:56,234 --> 00:33:57,135

Get everybody.

 

887

00:33:57,135 --> 00:33:59,370

Give him a thumbs up.

 

888

00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:04,876

You get you kicked up.

 

889

00:34:04,942 --> 00:34:05,843

I wonder.

 

890

00:34:05,843 --> 00:34:06,577

I wonder.

 

891

00:34:06,577 --> 00:34:10,048

You never cease to amaze me.

 

892

00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:12,283

Absolutely

 

893

00:34:12,283 --> 00:34:13,985

never cease.

 

894

00:34:13,985 --> 00:34:15,520

Amaze me.

 

895

00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,055

You know who's going to love this?

 

896

00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:20,058

Pauline is going to love this story.

 

897

00:34:20,124 --> 00:34:22,126

She especially

 

898

00:34:22,126 --> 00:34:23,895

for the reason that you did it,

 

899

00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:25,229

you weren't being a punk.

 

900

00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:26,731

You were.

 

901

00:34:26,731 --> 00:34:27,765

You weren't being a punk.

 

902

00:34:27,765 --> 00:34:30,768

You being a hero.

 

903

00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:32,270

Now I'm here in that song.

 

904

00:34:32,270 --> 00:34:35,273

I need a hero.

 

905

00:34:35,373 --> 00:34:52,290

That

 

906

00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:53,357

I hope Iggy Pop's

 

907

00:34:53,357 --> 00:34:54,892

people are hearing this

 

908

00:34:54,892 --> 00:34:55,893

because they're going to

 

909

00:34:55,893 --> 00:34:57,261

definitely going to sue you now.

 

910

00:34:57,261 --> 00:35:00,565

Now we now that we know who killed.

 

911

00:35:00,798 --> 00:35:03,034

Iggy Pop.

 

912

00:35:03,034 --> 00:35:04,569

All right.

 

913

00:35:04,569 --> 00:35:06,337

Well, Mike,

 

914

00:35:06,337 --> 00:35:08,473

thank you again for coming on.

 

915

00:35:08,473 --> 00:35:10,374

If I know you're doing classes out there,

 

916

00:35:10,374 --> 00:35:11,476

if anybody wants to get in touch,

 

917

00:35:11,476 --> 00:35:13,244

I'll tell you, Mike is a master.

 

918

00:35:13,244 --> 00:35:14,178

And every time we do

 

919

00:35:14,178 --> 00:35:15,513

one of these classes,

 

920

00:35:15,513 --> 00:35:17,081

the feedback isn't great.

 

921

00:35:17,081 --> 00:35:18,950

It's off the charts.

 

922

00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:21,285

It's off the charts on, on, on

 

923

00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:22,186

how well you do

 

924

00:35:22,186 --> 00:35:24,388

and how and how knowledgeable you

 

925

00:35:24,388 --> 00:35:25,890

I didn't know where he was going with

 

926

00:35:25,890 --> 00:35:29,927

that one. Mike It didn't.

 

927

00:35:29,994 --> 00:35:34,699

Yeah, I was like, shit,

 

928

00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:35,433

off the charts.

 

929

00:35:35,433 --> 00:35:36,167

And everybody always says,

 

930

00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:37,602

When can you come back?

 

931

00:35:37,602 --> 00:35:40,304

So thank you for all you do, Mikey.

 

932

00:35:40,304 --> 00:35:42,573

And, and being a knowledgeable

 

933

00:35:42,573 --> 00:35:44,208

or an A resource for us

 

934

00:35:44,208 --> 00:35:45,309

and you've helped us on

 

935

00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:46,410

some of the other stuff we've done.

 

936

00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:47,678

I've worked together with you

 

937

00:35:47,678 --> 00:35:48,679

on a couple of panels.

 

938

00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:49,814

I had the privilege to work with you

 

939

00:35:49,814 --> 00:35:51,315

on some really nice stuff

 

940

00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:53,251

and just being around you

 

941

00:35:53,251 --> 00:35:55,153

just, you just exude excellence, man.

 

942

00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:56,020

I mean, just you learn

 

943

00:35:56,020 --> 00:35:56,854

just being around you.

 

944

00:35:56,854 --> 00:35:59,857

So thank you for all you do for us.

 

945

00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:01,092

No, you're very welcome.

 

946

00:36:01,092 --> 00:36:02,560

And thank you for the opportunity, Wayne.

 

947

00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,761

It's just for me.

 

948

00:36:03,761 --> 00:36:05,830

It's fun. It's fun for me to.

 

949

00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:09,300

To install and work at the wood floors.

 

950

00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:10,835

It's fun for me to work with the students

 

951

00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:13,004

and just to help them along the way.

 

952

00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:14,939

That's to help them refine their craft.

 

953

00:36:14,939 --> 00:36:16,174

And so me, it's

 

954

00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:17,241

a lot of fun, too,

 

955

00:36:17,241 --> 00:36:18,276

to see their growth

 

956

00:36:18,276 --> 00:36:20,211

and help them along the way.

 

957

00:36:20,211 --> 00:36:22,713

Awesome. Thank you, sir.

 

958

00:36:22,813 --> 00:36:23,214

you're welcome.

 

959

00:36:23,214 --> 00:36:24,615

Have a happy Easter, everyone.

 

960

00:36:24,615 --> 00:36:26,517

you, too. You too, Thanks, Mike.

 

961

00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:27,818

You two,

 

962

00:36:27,818 --> 00:36:29,086

this has been another episode

 

963

00:36:29,086 --> 00:36:30,788

of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

964

00:36:30,788 --> 00:36:32,256

Please stay tuned for another episode.