On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Trust

Episode Summary

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Episode Transcription

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Hello.

 

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Welcome to another

 

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episode of On the Floor

 

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with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne Highlander,

 

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director of sales for Boring Adhesives.

 

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I'm Rob Johnson from Deep.

 

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A training.

 

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Rob, how we doing?

 

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Pretty good.

 

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How you doing, buddy?

 

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I just looked at the light in the screen.

 

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It's on my shirt.

 

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Do you like my shirt?

 

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no, Really?

 

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I know what I would do.

 

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Well, actually,

 

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I like it no, it's kinda easy.

 

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a lot of polka dots on that

 

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Well.

 

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It's a mitten.

 

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I am.

 

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I am.

 

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It's. It's a mitten in manger.

 

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Am I in.

 

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In Maine?

 

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Maine, actually.

 

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Very expensive shirts

 

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for the average guy.

 

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I got this one I need.

 

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No, no.

 

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I got it on eBay for, like 30 bucks.

 

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I don't care that another guy's

 

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had a whole life with this shirt.

 

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It's about $110 and $20 Shirt

 

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is very expensive.

 

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Yeah, absolutely it is.

 

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It's beautiful.

 

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$30.

 

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Okay.

 

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Rob.

 

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And

 

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yeah.

 

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I like it when I get a deal. money.

 

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Nothing wrong with saving money.

 

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damn right I got it. I got it.

 

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I got.

 

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The eggs.

 

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The expensive stuff, the fish and stuff.

 

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I got to buy first class.

 

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Speaking of which,

 

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You don't buy that, do you?

 

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know,

 

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we're going to talk about trust today.

 

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And,

 

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you know,

 

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and this is a good example,

 

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I think is a good example to talk about.

 

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I bought a fishing access real nugget.

 

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It's a scale.

 

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Okay. Fishing scale.

 

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I'm not going to mention the brand name.

 

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And after having it out three times,

 

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it's supposed to be like the state

 

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of the art piece of equipment.

 

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I had it out three times

 

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and I didn't even use it

 

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those three times.

 

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Shame to say one of those times

 

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it didn't happen the way any fish

 

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and it broke.

 

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It's not working completely.

 

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Stop working. Okay?

 

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I got so much runaround from

 

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that company to replace it that

 

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I don't even have any.

 

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I only I don't.

 

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We got really good feelings

 

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about the company anymore.

 

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You know what I mean?

 

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That that's the headache.

 

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In fact, matter of fact,

 

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halfway through

 

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and I said, you know what, man?

 

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Just keep it.

 

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I don't need it.

 

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Just keep the scale.

 

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Forget about it.

 

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And then

 

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he sent me a couple more emails

 

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or whatever.

 

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And then

 

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he a long story short, after months,

 

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they send me a new scale.

 

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Now.

 

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I don't feel happy about

 

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I don't feel good about that company.

 

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They eroded my trust.

 

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Trust is so important.

 

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You have no more trust for the.

 

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no,

 

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I think it was like $60 or 70, $80

 

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and we're like that. In. The present.

 

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Yeah,

 

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but it's a messy something.

 

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You know. Gail.

 

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We have a price on it,

 

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maybe even more than that.

 

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It's a really good scale,

 

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but I don't want to go into it

 

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to talk about it.

 

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The main factor is but

 

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yeah, it's a really good scale.

 

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I mean,

 

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it is supposed to be really good scale,

 

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but like I said,

 

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and I've completely lost

 

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faith in the company and whatever,

 

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and I just don't have any good feelings

 

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towards that company or what.

 

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Isn't that tell you how important it is?

 

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The longer that they didn't respond

 

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to me, the longer that

 

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that they let it go by the wayside

 

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and they

 

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put me through these different hoops

 

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to get

 

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get it resolved that my, my, my feelings

 

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about the name of that company

 

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is just gone south so fast.

 

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So that tells you how important

 

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the element of trust

 

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is in a relationship.

 

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Everything starts with trust.

 

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Everything you do,

 

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all your actions over time

 

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and everything starts with that.

 

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That word man,

 

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there's a lot of ways you can earn it

 

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and you can you can lose it.

 

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So very quickly.

 

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Before you

 

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talk about that, though,

 

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I want to say something else

 

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has nothing related to this.

 

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But there's two things that I

 

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that I'd mention today I thought were

 

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both were very interesting to me.

 

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One is,

 

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you know, Mike Rowe, the dirty jobs guy.

 

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Dirty jobs. Yeah.

 

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You know what I'm talking about, right?

 

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Yeah,

 

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didn't.

 

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He should do the cash cab.

 

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Or is that a different guy?

 

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I think it's the same guy

 

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I think is the same with.

 

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Yeah, yeah.

 

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He has.

 

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Yeah, he has. Actually.

 

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People take him pretty seriously

 

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now, too.

 

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He's kind of went from a goofball to a,

 

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you know, more serious guy.

 

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Well, he's really

 

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you know,

 

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he's really put the spotlight on

 

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the importance of the blue collar man.

 

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The Yeah,

 

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yeah, yeah.

 

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There you go.

 

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And that's what I like about him.

 

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He said something that to me is pretty,

 

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pretty shocking.

 

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And that is the number five

 

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for every five tradesmen that retire

 

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to take his place or her place.

 

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That's amazing, isn't it?

 

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How many people

 

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are not coming into the trades?

 

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That is shockingly sad.

 

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It's sad.

 

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But also look at the opportunity

 

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Well, get into trades.

 

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Yeah, it's sad,

 

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but I wouldn't mind being a young guy

 

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getting into this man.

 

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You're going to be able to name

 

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your price.

 

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You think about

 

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think about all the trades

 

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that are begging for people.

 

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I mean,

 

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literally every trade

 

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I can think of that

 

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I've run into

 

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over the last number of years,

 

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they're begging for people.

 

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And for every five that leads

 

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the trade, there's only two coming in

 

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to replace them.

 

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Wow.

 

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Mean, that is

 

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you can go,

 

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I get to ask the big question here, yeah.

 

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Zero.

 

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I mean, I've it?

 

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They broke the mold.

 

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Is that what you say?

 

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no, it's I'm so,

 

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you know, I can't do floors anymore.

 

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So what are they going to do?

 

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I take them.

 

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Yeah.

 

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No, no, I got to keep it real.

 

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that's impossible for you

 

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I know,

 

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I know.

 

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Everyb.

 

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Everybody's replaceable.

 

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Everybody's replaceable.

 

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You can't even say that

 

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with a straight face.

 

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They just did.

 

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What was the other thing

 

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I was going to say, though?

 

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That's the scary part.

 

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I had two things I was going to say,

 

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and now I can only remember one of them.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Yeah, yeah. There you go.

 

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Know, it'll come to me

 

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as the show goes on.

 

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All right, Rob, What you got?

 

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I had no idea what

 

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okay.

 

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Forget it. Forget you.

 

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Yeah, I remember what it is now.

 

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We we talked about

 

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does containment and stuff like that.

 

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And don't think if in your career,

 

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if you say you send flowers for sale,

 

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you do a thousand square feet a week.

 

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Okay?

 

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And you work 50 weeks a year.

 

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Now there's going to be some that's

 

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going to be way less

 

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than, say, more than that.

 

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But let's say

 

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8000 square feet a week for 50 weeks.

 

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All right.

 

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And you do floors for 20 years.

 

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I'd say

 

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that's a million square feet of flooring.

 

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Okay. Yeah.

 

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If you're not using respirators

 

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and that's containment

 

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and those type of things

 

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and maybe HEPA filters, too.

 

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You're breathing a million square feet

 

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of flooring,

 

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residue, dust,

 

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all the stuff that comes along with it

 

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and finishes and everything.

 

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That's pretty that's pretty.

 

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You know,

 

269

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that's very scary.

 

270

00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:51,831

You know,

 

271

00:08:51,831 --> 00:08:52,498

you don't think of it

 

272

00:08:52,498 --> 00:08:53,866

because your career is long

 

273

00:08:53,866 --> 00:08:54,800

and every day you get up

 

274

00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:55,735

and do it and everything.

 

275

00:08:55,735 --> 00:08:57,436

And and

 

276

00:08:57,436 --> 00:08:58,704

but when you start thinking

 

277

00:08:58,704 --> 00:09:00,973

about the acute accumulation.

 

278

00:09:00,973 --> 00:09:02,174

Thank you.

 

279

00:09:02,174 --> 00:09:05,511

Of 20 years of doing floors

 

280

00:09:06,412 --> 00:09:09,115

and breathing all that sawdust,

 

281

00:09:09,115 --> 00:09:11,984

that's pretty frightening.

 

282

00:09:11,984 --> 00:09:12,718

When?

 

283

00:09:12,718 --> 00:09:13,786

When bum started.

 

284

00:09:13,786 --> 00:09:14,186

It's funny

 

285

00:09:14,186 --> 00:09:16,622

you mentioned that when boom

 

286

00:09:16,622 --> 00:09:18,424

really started to work with me.

 

287

00:09:18,424 --> 00:09:20,560

You know, he's probably 12

 

288

00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:21,661

right there in the summer,

 

289

00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:23,729

and he was really working

 

290

00:09:23,729 --> 00:09:24,964

and getting into it.

 

291

00:09:24,964 --> 00:09:25,665

You know what I mean?

 

292

00:09:25,665 --> 00:09:26,332

Understanding

 

293

00:09:26,332 --> 00:09:28,367

what we were doing and stuff.

 

294

00:09:28,367 --> 00:09:29,802

So one night at supper,

 

295

00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:32,939

he's

 

296

00:09:32,939 --> 00:09:35,274

we just got done coaching a job

 

297

00:09:35,274 --> 00:09:37,310

and he said to me, Dad,

 

298

00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:39,612

how many square foot

 

299

00:09:39,612 --> 00:09:40,713

do you think you've covered

 

300

00:09:40,713 --> 00:09:43,716

in your lifetime so far?

 

301

00:09:44,050 --> 00:09:45,351

So I really sat down

 

302

00:09:45,351 --> 00:09:46,719

and started to do the numbers,

 

303

00:09:46,719 --> 00:09:47,887

you know, because I was lucky.

 

304

00:09:47,887 --> 00:09:50,389

I worked in

 

305

00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:52,258

giant gyms, in bowling alleys.

 

306

00:09:52,258 --> 00:09:55,227

So, you know, the Yeah.

 

307

00:10:12,078 --> 00:10:14,146

Yep.

 

308

00:10:14,146 --> 00:10:17,149

Yep.

 

309

00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,323

We.

 

310

00:10:38,604 --> 00:10:40,306

yeah.

 

311

00:10:40,306 --> 00:10:42,008

You good?

 

312

00:10:42,008 --> 00:10:45,044

And if you had $0.50 a foot

 

313

00:10:45,044 --> 00:10:46,379

for all that 6 million.

 

314

00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:48,514

Yeah.

 

315

00:10:48,514 --> 00:10:51,517

my gosh.

 

316

00:10:51,751 --> 00:10:52,785

Wow.

 

317

00:10:52,785 --> 00:10:53,452

Well, she.

 

318

00:10:53,452 --> 00:10:56,455

She didn't have to do that.

 

319

00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:58,457

Yeah.

 

320

00:10:58,457 --> 00:11:00,660

Wow.

 

321

00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:02,128

I believe that, though, in your career,

 

322

00:11:02,128 --> 00:11:03,863

I can see that with you.

 

323

00:11:03,863 --> 00:11:06,866

All those gym floors.

 

324

00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:09,769

Now,

 

325

00:11:09,769 --> 00:11:12,772

I was going to say,

 

326

00:11:12,872 --> 00:11:13,239

are you.

 

327

00:11:13,239 --> 00:11:14,140

Are you counting?

 

328

00:11:14,140 --> 00:11:15,541

Are you counting?

 

329

00:11:15,541 --> 00:11:17,476

Two goes for four per job.

 

330

00:11:17,476 --> 00:11:18,377

Three goes for job.

 

331

00:11:19,412 --> 00:11:20,713

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

332

00:11:20,713 --> 00:11:24,517

I, a 32 lane bowling alley and,

 

333

00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:24,850

you know,

 

334

00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:25,818

we were using lacquer

 

335

00:11:25,818 --> 00:11:27,653

that was six or seven coats.

 

336

00:11:27,653 --> 00:11:29,955

So, you know, starts to add

 

337

00:11:29,955 --> 00:11:32,692

I talked about when I was,

 

338

00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:33,859

when I was in my van

 

339

00:11:33,859 --> 00:11:35,194

and you know back then

 

340

00:11:35,194 --> 00:11:35,961

we did poorly

 

341

00:11:35,961 --> 00:11:37,430

and we did a lot of blue downs

 

342

00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:38,230

with your things.

 

343

00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:39,065

And state

 

344

00:11:39,065 --> 00:11:40,800

painting and rags were part of our lives

 

345

00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,568

all the time and everything. And.

 

346

00:11:42,568 --> 00:11:44,637

And I had a bag of potato

 

347

00:11:44,637 --> 00:11:45,571

chips in my van

 

348

00:11:45,571 --> 00:11:47,039

that were been over there

 

349

00:11:47,039 --> 00:11:48,207

for like the weekend,

 

350

00:11:48,207 --> 00:11:49,141

maybe three days,

 

351

00:11:49,141 --> 00:11:51,410

and coming home from work one. Day.

 

352

00:11:51,410 --> 00:11:52,244

Just mindlessly,

 

353

00:11:52,244 --> 00:11:53,212

I just see the chips

 

354

00:11:53,212 --> 00:11:54,980

and I just in traffic, whatever.

 

355

00:11:54,980 --> 00:11:56,282

So I opened up the bag of chips

 

356

00:11:56,282 --> 00:11:58,284

eating and realized right away

 

357

00:11:58,284 --> 00:11:59,585

they taste like they taste

 

358

00:11:59,585 --> 00:12:01,387

like thinner and all that stuff

 

359

00:12:01,387 --> 00:12:02,722

that's been in my you know.

 

360

00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:04,924

You know what I mean? Isn't that scary?

 

361

00:12:07,193 --> 00:12:10,329

So anyway, Are you getting scared?

 

362

00:12:10,529 --> 00:12:11,430

That now.

 

363

00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:14,066

No, no,

 

364

00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:16,268

no.

 

365

00:12:16,268 --> 00:12:17,570

I'm not scared for me.

 

366

00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:18,771

No, I'm just, you know,

 

367

00:12:18,771 --> 00:12:20,439

we all think we're bulletproof

 

368

00:12:20,439 --> 00:12:21,974

and until we're not.

 

369

00:12:21,974 --> 00:12:23,509

And so,

 

370

00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:27,146

you know, a good friend of ours, both

 

371

00:12:27,379 --> 00:12:30,382

his dad passed away because of this.

 

372

00:12:30,449 --> 00:12:30,850

Right.

 

373

00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:33,552

And so there's a lot of young people

 

374

00:12:33,552 --> 00:12:34,820

in the early part of their career out

 

375

00:12:34,820 --> 00:12:36,956

there just be smarter than we were

 

376

00:12:36,956 --> 00:12:38,357

and use products

 

377

00:12:38,357 --> 00:12:40,025

that you don't have to say.

 

378

00:12:40,025 --> 00:12:41,994

I say the same thing about adhesives.

 

379

00:12:41,994 --> 00:12:43,229

You know,

 

380

00:12:43,229 --> 00:12:44,163

sometimes when you look

 

381

00:12:44,163 --> 00:12:45,097

at the technical data

 

382

00:12:45,097 --> 00:12:46,332

sheets on adhesives,

 

383

00:12:46,332 --> 00:12:47,833

but sometimes a safety data sheet

 

384

00:12:47,833 --> 00:12:49,668

is the most important thing to look. At.

 

385

00:12:49,668 --> 00:12:50,970

Because your agent inches

 

386

00:12:50,970 --> 00:12:52,838

over that panel all day long,

 

387

00:12:52,838 --> 00:12:53,672

all week long,

 

388

00:12:53,672 --> 00:12:56,675

all month long, all year long decades.

 

389

00:12:56,842 --> 00:12:59,111

So all this kind of stuff adds up.

 

390

00:12:59,111 --> 00:12:59,478

So

 

391

00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:01,580

and actually,

 

392

00:13:01,580 --> 00:13:02,414

like, you know,

 

393

00:13:02,414 --> 00:13:03,349

since we're going to go down

 

394

00:13:03,349 --> 00:13:04,650

that rabbit hole,

 

395

00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:06,819

let's go down that a little bit more.

 

396

00:13:06,819 --> 00:13:08,387

 

 

397

00:13:08,387 --> 00:13:09,188

So let's talk

 

398

00:13:09,188 --> 00:13:12,191

about some safety equipment.

 

399

00:13:12,191 --> 00:13:13,092

Like you said,

 

400

00:13:13,092 --> 00:13:16,095

a lot of new guys getting into this.

 

401

00:13:16,829 --> 00:13:18,464

I think what I've learned about

 

402

00:13:18,464 --> 00:13:21,767

safety equipment through the years is

 

403

00:13:23,969 --> 00:13:26,939

what you wear and what I wear now.

 

404

00:13:27,406 --> 00:13:29,208

I would never wear what you're wearing

 

405

00:13:29,208 --> 00:13:31,610

and you would never wear what I'm

 

406

00:13:31,610 --> 00:13:32,344

because it's a it's

 

407

00:13:32,344 --> 00:13:33,078

the main shirt

 

408

00:13:33,078 --> 00:13:36,081

and it's, it's very expensive.

 

409

00:13:37,116 --> 00:13:40,119

Yes.

 

410

00:13:45,958 --> 00:13:46,258

It's down.

 

411

00:13:46,258 --> 00:13:49,261

To this.

 

412

00:13:49,261 --> 00:13:50,329

Yeah.

 

413

00:13:50,329 --> 00:13:51,564

What do you mean by saying

 

414

00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:52,865

that I would never wear what you wear.

 

415

00:13:52,865 --> 00:13:55,868

You would never wear what I wear.

 

416

00:14:15,888 --> 00:14:18,891

It's

 

417

00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,493

Yeah,

 

418

00:14:21,493 --> 00:14:22,928

big Mickey Mouse ears

 

419

00:14:22,928 --> 00:14:24,430

that the guys at the airport where

 

420

00:14:25,731 --> 00:14:28,133

where he just uses buds.

 

421

00:14:28,133 --> 00:14:30,402

He doesn't go with the big

 

422

00:14:30,402 --> 00:14:32,171

now respirator.

 

423

00:14:32,171 --> 00:14:33,939

I like a full respirator

 

424

00:14:33,939 --> 00:14:36,942

that hooks behind my neck and

 

425

00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:39,111

and hooks on top of my head

 

426

00:14:39,111 --> 00:14:41,680

where he just likes the little

 

427

00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,048

the little mask with the breathing

 

428

00:14:43,048 --> 00:14:46,051

breather valve in between knee pads.

 

429

00:14:46,051 --> 00:14:48,687

Same thing. You know.

 

430

00:14:48,687 --> 00:14:51,257

So what I'm saying is try everything,

 

431

00:14:51,257 --> 00:14:54,260

because if you're not comfortable in it,

 

432

00:14:54,293 --> 00:14:55,494

you're not going to wear it.

 

433

00:14:55,494 --> 00:14:56,695

So if you know

 

434

00:14:56,695 --> 00:14:58,230

you own the company and you

 

435

00:14:58,230 --> 00:14:59,031

you know, you buy

 

436

00:14:59,031 --> 00:15:02,034

you guys here's everybody's respirator.

 

437

00:15:02,234 --> 00:15:03,869

If it's not the kind of respirator

 

438

00:15:03,869 --> 00:15:05,070

that I want to wear,

 

439

00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:07,673

I'm probably not going to wear.

 

440

00:15:07,673 --> 00:15:08,741

you know.

 

441

00:15:08,741 --> 00:15:10,109

You're so right.

 

442

00:15:10,109 --> 00:15:12,478

Because here's the thing, is that.

 

443

00:15:12,478 --> 00:15:13,946

whoa.

 

444

00:15:13,946 --> 00:15:15,214

Easy? Yeah.

 

445

00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:17,716

You're so right. Yeah. Yeah.

 

446

00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:20,452

I didn't hear

 

447

00:15:20,452 --> 00:15:23,455

the bill really?

 

448

00:15:24,290 --> 00:15:27,293

now, but you'll hear it.

 

449

00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,394

okay.

 

450

00:15:28,394 --> 00:15:30,930

And they're going to be happy.

 

451

00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,731

You're right about that,

 

452

00:15:32,731 --> 00:15:34,500

because it's all habits.

 

453

00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:35,401

You get into habits.

 

454

00:15:35,401 --> 00:15:36,936

If you get into the habit of doing it

 

455

00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:38,037

all the time, you'll do it.

 

456

00:15:38,037 --> 00:15:39,238

You'll continue to do it.

 

457

00:15:39,238 --> 00:15:40,906

But you have to start that habit

 

458

00:15:40,906 --> 00:15:42,741

and it is uncomfortable

 

459

00:15:42,741 --> 00:15:43,642

and awkward and whatever,

 

460

00:15:43,642 --> 00:15:44,276

you won't do it.

 

461

00:15:44,276 --> 00:15:47,279

I remember back in the 1970s, if we go

 

462

00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:52,251

living in living in a very Michigan,

 

463

00:15:53,152 --> 00:15:54,119

you didn't know what your neighbors

 

464

00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:55,287

looked like for six months of the year

 

465

00:15:55,287 --> 00:15:56,522

because because of the snow,

 

466

00:15:56,522 --> 00:15:57,890

we were those heavy,

 

467

00:15:57,890 --> 00:15:58,724

heavy parkas

 

468

00:15:58,724 --> 00:15:59,725

when they covered your face

 

469

00:15:59,725 --> 00:16:00,659

and had the had

 

470

00:16:00,659 --> 00:16:02,728

the fur on the outside and tied up,

 

471

00:16:02,728 --> 00:16:03,295

you know what I mean?

 

472

00:16:05,764 --> 00:16:06,632

Okay.

 

473

00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:09,635

So we had those.

 

474

00:16:11,036 --> 00:16:11,637

I'm sure of it.

 

475

00:16:11,637 --> 00:16:14,640

That's it bears everything,

 

476

00:16:16,508 --> 00:16:17,643

maybe.

 

477

00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:18,544

But the thing

 

478

00:16:18,544 --> 00:16:19,445

is, them jackets

 

479

00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:21,480

probably weighed £40 back then

 

480

00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,082

and they had the heavy, heavy boots.

 

481

00:16:23,082 --> 00:16:23,849

And you had the heavy,

 

482

00:16:23,849 --> 00:16:24,883

big gloves and everything.

 

483

00:16:24,883 --> 00:16:26,018

And now equipment

 

484

00:16:26,018 --> 00:16:27,219

has gotten so much better,

 

485

00:16:27,219 --> 00:16:28,554

so much lighter.

 

486

00:16:28,554 --> 00:16:28,988

So.

 

487

00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:31,991

You know.

 

488

00:16:32,157 --> 00:16:35,160

Or

 

489

00:16:35,928 --> 00:16:36,795

I can't think of the way

 

490

00:16:36,795 --> 00:16:37,629

I see it of

 

491

00:16:37,629 --> 00:16:38,831

but just way more comfortable

 

492

00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:40,165

than they were back in those days.

 

493

00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:41,367

So there's there's better options

 

494

00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:42,267

now than it used to be.

 

495

00:16:42,267 --> 00:16:44,003

I'll tell you something else, too.

 

496

00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:44,737

I don't know about you,

 

497

00:16:44,737 --> 00:16:46,538

but my ears ring all the time.

 

498

00:16:46,538 --> 00:16:47,506

I have ten

 

499

00:16:47,506 --> 00:16:48,741

toenails in my ears, rings

 

500

00:16:48,741 --> 00:16:50,542

ring all the time

 

501

00:16:50,542 --> 00:16:53,545

and is just just such a pain.

 

502

00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:57,383

So I listen to at high speed Edgers.

 

503

00:16:57,750 --> 00:16:59,518

When I was when I was young,

 

504

00:16:59,518 --> 00:17:00,986

we didn't wear ear protection.

 

505

00:17:00,986 --> 00:17:01,954

And those high speed,

 

506

00:17:01,954 --> 00:17:03,422

that high speed equipment

 

507

00:17:03,422 --> 00:17:06,158

in closets and stuff like that,

 

508

00:17:06,158 --> 00:17:09,161

it's that, you know, you pay the price.

 

509

00:17:09,561 --> 00:17:10,562

I put mine on.

 

510

00:17:11,563 --> 00:17:14,566

Yeah.

 

511

00:17:43,529 --> 00:17:45,197

Yeah,

 

512

00:17:45,197 --> 00:17:48,200

yeah, yeah.

 

513

00:18:02,648 --> 00:18:06,585

and that sat on my dashboard

 

514

00:18:06,652 --> 00:18:10,722

in my truck for, I bet, almost a year.

 

515

00:18:11,390 --> 00:18:14,393

Wow.

 

516

00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:29,041

Yeah.

 

517

00:18:29,041 --> 00:18:32,044

I mean, they work.

 

518

00:18:34,646 --> 00:18:35,481

Forget about it.

 

519

00:18:35,481 --> 00:18:36,648

That was it.

 

520

00:18:36,648 --> 00:18:39,251

I Yeah. off.

 

521

00:18:39,251 --> 00:18:42,121

And the crew?

 

522

00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:43,522

there's

 

523

00:18:43,522 --> 00:18:46,525

that I heard from them about

 

524

00:18:49,094 --> 00:18:50,596

For wearing that.

 

525

00:18:50,596 --> 00:18:53,599

I it. I didn't care.

 

526

00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:55,734

I absolutely did not

 

527

00:18:55,734 --> 00:18:58,737

Yeah.

 

528

00:19:02,541 --> 00:19:03,275

Well,

 

529

00:19:03,275 --> 00:19:03,842

you, you're

 

530

00:19:03,842 --> 00:19:06,145

look at a long distance truck drivers.

 

531

00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:07,079

You ever been a long distance

 

532

00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:08,680

truck drivers Truck?

 

533

00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,616

I bet you have a time or two

 

534

00:19:10,616 --> 00:19:13,585

no, no, a lot.

 

535

00:19:13,585 --> 00:19:15,754

I'm not saying you're a lot lizard,

 

536

00:19:15,754 --> 00:19:17,055

lizard or anything, but.

 

537

00:19:17,055 --> 00:19:20,526

But no, those, those, those trucks are

 

538

00:19:20,526 --> 00:19:21,393

their

 

539

00:19:21,393 --> 00:19:24,296

seats are unbelievably comfortable.

 

540

00:19:24,296 --> 00:19:26,031

I mean there's like

 

541

00:19:26,031 --> 00:19:28,600

I was just a Cadillacs, but they're like

 

542

00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,502

the most comfortable seat you ever sat in

 

543

00:19:30,502 --> 00:19:32,638

because that driver is in that seat

 

544

00:19:32,638 --> 00:19:35,140

for hours and hours at a time.

 

545

00:19:35,140 --> 00:19:37,576

So you might as well make it comfortable

 

546

00:19:37,576 --> 00:19:39,278

for yourself. You know what I mean?

 

547

00:19:39,278 --> 00:19:41,046

Same thing with the stone floors.

 

548

00:19:41,046 --> 00:19:42,814

All right, let's switch gears.

 

549

00:19:42,814 --> 00:19:45,050

All right. We talked about trust.

 

550

00:19:45,050 --> 00:19:47,452

I'll tell you, I've been thinking about

 

551

00:19:47,452 --> 00:19:48,387

this the other day, Rob,

 

552

00:19:49,821 --> 00:19:51,423

what are the what are the two?

 

553

00:19:51,423 --> 00:19:51,790

A couple

 

554

00:19:51,790 --> 00:19:53,158

the two biggest concerns

 

555

00:19:53,158 --> 00:19:54,359

when you're having your flaws done

 

556

00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,595

that the homeowner has,

 

557

00:19:56,595 --> 00:19:58,830

number one is does right.

 

558

00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:01,099

I would say that's number and yeah,

 

559

00:20:01,099 --> 00:20:03,168

I think dust is number Yeah.

 

560

00:20:03,168 --> 00:20:05,337

I think another thing, too, is

 

561

00:20:05,337 --> 00:20:08,006

that if the homeowner would admitted like

 

562

00:20:08,006 --> 00:20:10,175

using the bathroom, using the restroom,

 

563

00:20:10,175 --> 00:20:11,343

it's another one

 

564

00:20:11,343 --> 00:20:14,279

and and you know, that type of thing.

 

565

00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:16,815

I think now if I was doing floors,

 

566

00:20:16,815 --> 00:20:19,918

I would have a checklist of of,

 

567

00:20:19,918 --> 00:20:21,887

you know, here's just so we know

 

568

00:20:21,887 --> 00:20:23,288

so, you know,

 

569

00:20:23,288 --> 00:20:23,989

here's some things

 

570

00:20:23,989 --> 00:20:24,523

that have

 

571

00:20:24,523 --> 00:20:26,158

a checklist of things that you know

 

572

00:20:26,158 --> 00:20:28,894

give us your feedback on this

 

573

00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:30,295

and one of them would be

 

574

00:20:30,295 --> 00:20:31,530

what time do you want us to start

 

575

00:20:31,530 --> 00:20:33,131

and leave every day?

 

576

00:20:33,131 --> 00:20:34,233

So that would be a biggie because,

 

577

00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:34,766

you know,

 

578

00:20:34,766 --> 00:20:35,667

the lady's getting the kids

 

579

00:20:35,667 --> 00:20:36,568

ready for whatever

 

580

00:20:36,568 --> 00:20:37,402

and they're getting home.

 

581

00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:38,470

Maybe they don't want you in the house

 

582

00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:40,072

at a certain time period or whatever.

 

583

00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:41,173

If you were to put that down

 

584

00:20:41,173 --> 00:20:42,341

there, I'd be doing it right away.

 

585

00:20:42,341 --> 00:20:45,344

Yeah, person cares about my house.

 

586

00:20:45,410 --> 00:20:46,445

The second one is

 

587

00:20:47,646 --> 00:20:48,747

just so they don't have to see it.

 

588

00:20:48,747 --> 00:20:49,615

Are you comfortable with us

 

589

00:20:49,615 --> 00:20:52,017

using the downstairs restroom or no,

 

590

00:20:52,017 --> 00:20:53,752

Just check.

 

591

00:20:53,752 --> 00:20:56,488

Yes. Or check now. Right.

 

592

00:20:56,488 --> 00:20:58,557

And I think those things right there

 

593

00:20:58,557 --> 00:21:00,759

and then and then also smoking

 

594

00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:01,360

and already

 

595

00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,094

ahead of time,

 

596

00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:03,962

just put check it yourself

 

597

00:21:03,962 --> 00:21:05,764

so we don't smoke in the house.

 

598

00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:08,100

If you do those things right off the bat,

 

599

00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:09,501

I think you're going to garner

 

600

00:21:09,501 --> 00:21:12,504

trust like and put a lot of things

 

601

00:21:12,738 --> 00:21:15,274

concerns to the wayside Real quick.

 

602

00:21:15,274 --> 00:21:18,277

Go

 

603

00:21:18,977 --> 00:21:20,245

I don't know if I'm going to ask

 

604

00:21:20,245 --> 00:21:22,714

if I can use our bathroom.

 

605

00:21:22,714 --> 00:21:23,682

I don't know if I'm going

 

606

00:21:23,682 --> 00:21:26,385

to throw that out there. you?

 

607

00:21:26,385 --> 00:21:29,388

I think so.

 

608

00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:38,130

So

 

609

00:22:29,881 --> 00:22:32,884

yeah

 

610

00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:38,557

yeah.

 

611

00:22:38,557 --> 00:22:39,091

So see she

 

612

00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:40,258

that's what she wants you to say.

 

613

00:23:11,156 --> 00:23:14,159

Yeah,

 

614

00:23:20,332 --> 00:23:23,335

yeah, yeah,

 

615

00:23:24,269 --> 00:23:27,239

yeah,

 

616

00:24:07,179 --> 00:24:10,182

yeah.

 

617

00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:34,806

Okay.

 

618

00:24:34,806 --> 00:24:37,809

So

 

619

00:24:38,276 --> 00:24:40,078

yeah.

 

620

00:24:40,078 --> 00:24:41,513

So. Okay.

 

621

00:24:41,513 --> 00:24:42,481

Thank you.

 

622

00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:44,549

So

 

623

00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:45,150

a couple of things

 

624

00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:47,419

about that part of our challenge

 

625

00:24:47,419 --> 00:24:49,221

as foreign contractors is

 

626

00:24:49,221 --> 00:24:49,588

we're the

 

627

00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:50,789

we're one of the last ones in there

 

628

00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:52,290

in the house.

 

629

00:24:52,290 --> 00:24:54,259

And by the time they get to us,

 

630

00:24:54,259 --> 00:24:56,428

they're loaded for bear.

 

631

00:24:56,428 --> 00:24:59,164

The joke she may have made some

 

632

00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:00,699

overpromised or whatever didn't get

 

633

00:25:00,699 --> 00:25:02,267

do things you're supposed to do.

 

634

00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:03,468

Our guys like for the job.

 

635

00:25:03,468 --> 00:25:04,836

The painter didn't show up

 

636

00:25:04,836 --> 00:25:06,605

and now she's educated.

 

637

00:25:06,605 --> 00:25:07,138

By the time

 

638

00:25:07,138 --> 00:25:08,273

the floor guy shows up,

 

639

00:25:08,273 --> 00:25:10,175

they're like, All right, this clown,

 

640

00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:11,309

they're loaded for bear.

 

641

00:25:11,309 --> 00:25:12,344

Now, I

 

642

00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,880

now I know now, now I've been educated

 

643

00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,047

and they're out of money.

 

644

00:25:16,047 --> 00:25:16,581

Yeah.

 

645

00:25:16,581 --> 00:25:17,582

Can take away that fancy

 

646

00:25:17,582 --> 00:25:18,750

medallion and borders. Now.

 

647

00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:20,452

Now it's just greatly.

 

648

00:25:20,452 --> 00:25:22,921

We should go first.

 

649

00:25:22,921 --> 00:25:23,788

We have all the money.

 

650

00:25:23,788 --> 00:25:24,990

We'd be doing fancier floors

 

651

00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:26,391

if the floor guy went first.

 

652

00:25:26,391 --> 00:25:28,093

said it's the concrete, guys.

 

653

00:25:28,093 --> 00:25:29,995

That's what you want to do. Yeah,

 

654

00:25:31,096 --> 00:25:32,297

Yeah.

 

655

00:25:32,297 --> 00:25:34,533

But I want to say something, though.

 

656

00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:36,201

So all the years I did floors,

 

657

00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:38,236

I was a relatively young man

 

658

00:25:38,236 --> 00:25:41,172

and most floor people are

 

659

00:25:41,172 --> 00:25:42,073

now.

 

660

00:25:42,073 --> 00:25:43,708

I'm an older. Gentleman.

 

661

00:25:43,708 --> 00:25:46,711

And now I see where older folks.

 

662

00:25:48,113 --> 00:25:51,116

Yeah I think the bad things are

 

663

00:25:51,516 --> 00:25:52,617

is beautiful

 

664

00:25:52,617 --> 00:25:54,519

though is a really nice shirt

 

665

00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:55,487

Very comfortable.

 

666

00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:56,221

You don't have to iron it.

 

667

00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:57,322

I can go traveling.

 

668

00:25:57,322 --> 00:25:58,123

I throw in a suitcase.

 

669

00:25:58,123 --> 00:25:59,824

It never gets wrinkled anyhow,

 

670

00:25:59,824 --> 00:26:02,260

Mitten remains bad ass. You're so.

 

671

00:26:02,260 --> 00:26:04,796

Anyhow, my point is

 

672

00:26:04,796 --> 00:26:06,431

If you buy it from a funeral home,

 

673

00:26:06,431 --> 00:26:07,799

no in eBay.

 

674

00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,034

But that's not a bad idea though.

 

675

00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:11,002

I know a funeral director.

 

676

00:26:11,002 --> 00:26:13,104

That guy looks like he's an extra large

 

677

00:26:13,104 --> 00:26:15,240

Where do you get all these great suits?

 

678

00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,308

Yeah.

 

679

00:26:16,308 --> 00:26:19,811

So anyhow,

 

680

00:26:19,811 --> 00:26:21,780

but I've never lived as an older guy

 

681

00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:23,782

until after I started doing floors.

 

682

00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:26,618

And I see how older people get more set

 

683

00:26:26,618 --> 00:26:27,786

in their ways

 

684

00:26:27,786 --> 00:26:29,187

where I can see them

 

685

00:26:29,187 --> 00:26:30,255

being more uncomfortable

 

686

00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:31,456

with someone using their bathroom

 

687

00:26:31,456 --> 00:26:31,823

or whatever,

 

688

00:26:31,823 --> 00:26:32,624

because they get,

 

689

00:26:32,624 --> 00:26:32,891

you know,

 

690

00:26:32,891 --> 00:26:33,758

they're more settled than they were

 

691

00:26:33,758 --> 00:26:35,226

they were in the past.

 

692

00:26:35,226 --> 00:26:36,828

If someone told me not to use a bathroom,

 

693

00:26:36,828 --> 00:26:37,696

I would have been offended.

 

694

00:26:38,730 --> 00:26:40,498

But now I'm thinking,

 

695

00:26:40,498 --> 00:26:41,933

now that might not be a bad idea

 

696

00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:43,234

to have a check a box

 

697

00:26:43,234 --> 00:26:47,739

to check off on that and that.

 

698

00:26:48,073 --> 00:26:49,240

Yeah, but hold on a sec.

 

699

00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,508

It

 

700

00:26:50,508 --> 00:26:53,511

depends on where I'm at.

 

701

00:26:53,845 --> 00:26:55,380

If I'm in a rural thinking,

 

702

00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:56,881

where's the bathroom?

 

703

00:26:56,881 --> 00:26:58,883

How far is it?

 

704

00:26:58,883 --> 00:27:01,886

if I'm in a rural area,

 

705

00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:05,123

If I'm in a rural area,

 

706

00:27:05,123 --> 00:27:06,291

I'd be thinking differently, though.

 

707

00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:06,925

I'm not going to drive

 

708

00:27:06,925 --> 00:27:08,026

five miles down the road to go

 

709

00:27:08,026 --> 00:27:09,027

use the restroom.

 

710

00:27:09,027 --> 00:27:10,595

Now I'm mad actually.

 

711

00:27:10,595 --> 00:27:12,497

 

 

712

00:27:12,497 --> 00:27:14,299

I think every floor guy has a

 

713

00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:17,102

there's the bane of every floor guy

 

714

00:27:17,102 --> 00:27:18,036

in the whole flooring

 

715

00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:21,039

industry is low hanging chandeliers,

 

716

00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:25,377

low low hanging light fixtures

 

717

00:27:25,377 --> 00:27:26,945

where you bang your head on one of those

 

718

00:27:26,945 --> 00:27:27,912

when you coat the floor

 

719

00:27:27,912 --> 00:27:29,547

or you're running a sander.

 

720

00:27:29,547 --> 00:27:30,649

Is there anything worse?

 

721

00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:31,950

It just grip your day worse.

 

722

00:27:32,884 --> 00:27:33,385

I don't know why.

 

723

00:27:33,385 --> 00:27:34,719

I just cross my my.

 

724

00:27:34,719 --> 00:27:38,690

behind probably two or 300 socks.

 

725

00:27:38,823 --> 00:27:39,357

I remember

 

726

00:27:39,357 --> 00:27:42,327

one day we just went out and bought

 

727

00:27:42,927 --> 00:27:45,897

a, you know, a box of socks

 

728

00:27:45,897 --> 00:27:48,600

just for that,

 

729

00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,801

and I never took them.

 

730

00:27:49,801 --> 00:27:52,804

We always left Yeah, yeah,

 

731

00:27:53,038 --> 00:27:56,041

yeah.

 

732

00:27:59,277 --> 00:28:02,280

I put it in the bid.

 

733

00:28:02,414 --> 00:28:03,314

All right, hotshot,

 

734

00:28:03,314 --> 00:28:06,317

Tell me how you earn some trust.

 

735

00:28:07,185 --> 00:28:09,154

I know we've been talking about this

 

736

00:28:09,154 --> 00:28:10,288

a lot lately.

 

737

00:28:10,288 --> 00:28:13,258

What you were saying.

 

738

00:28:13,324 --> 00:28:14,225

I think we're going

 

739

00:28:14,225 --> 00:28:15,260

to earn a little trust

 

740

00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:17,562

from communication.

 

741

00:28:17,562 --> 00:28:21,399

I also think that maybe

 

742

00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:23,401

I don't know

 

743

00:28:23,401 --> 00:28:26,404

how I would go about this, but

 

744

00:28:26,604 --> 00:28:28,773

we know what they're scared of.

 

745

00:28:28,773 --> 00:28:30,875

So maybe if you gave them numbers

 

746

00:28:30,875 --> 00:28:33,044

of the last three jobs or,

 

747

00:28:33,044 --> 00:28:34,446

you know, call this person

 

748

00:28:34,446 --> 00:28:36,448

or do you know this person or

 

749

00:28:36,448 --> 00:28:37,782

I don't like that.

 

750

00:28:37,782 --> 00:28:39,718

far we can go, I know you don't like it.

 

751

00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:41,886

I could tell the look on your face

 

752

00:28:41,886 --> 00:28:44,489

that you shirt staring right at me.

 

753

00:28:44,489 --> 00:28:44,989

Okay.

 

754

00:28:46,524 --> 00:28:48,960

I don't like it when people say, can I.

 

755

00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,196

Can I reference your last

 

756

00:28:51,196 --> 00:28:53,264

three people or whatever.

 

757

00:28:53,264 --> 00:28:54,165

I don't want to impose

 

758

00:28:54,165 --> 00:28:55,266

on my other customers.

 

759

00:28:55,266 --> 00:28:57,569

And also, it.

 

760

00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,739

I Yeah, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

 

761

00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:03,875

I don't think it's going to hurt to ask.

 

762

00:29:03,875 --> 00:29:06,878

Maybe show some testimonials

 

763

00:29:07,212 --> 00:29:10,215

of people

 

764

00:29:10,348 --> 00:29:11,683

you have three other phone lines

 

765

00:29:11,683 --> 00:29:14,686

in your house, though, right?

 

766

00:29:18,523 --> 00:29:18,957

on, man.

 

767

00:29:18,957 --> 00:29:20,592

You know you did it.

 

768

00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:23,428

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

 

769

00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:26,397

You always want to be an actor

 

770

00:29:27,899 --> 00:29:28,700

How are you?

 

771

00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:31,402

What I'm fine.

 

772

00:29:31,402 --> 00:29:34,405

No, I

 

773

00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,608

How am I about what?

 

774

00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:37,909

about building trust.

 

775

00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:39,778

What's your idea?

 

776

00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,147

Well, one I think one right

 

777

00:29:42,147 --> 00:29:43,047

out of the way is don't

 

778

00:29:43,047 --> 00:29:45,150

overpromise and under-deliver.

 

779

00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:47,085

I think he does have to be transparent

 

780

00:29:47,085 --> 00:29:48,586

with the expectation his write offs

 

781

00:29:48,586 --> 00:29:49,654

right off the bat.

 

782

00:29:49,654 --> 00:29:50,455

What you're going to do

 

783

00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:51,923

and what you're not going to do

 

784

00:29:51,923 --> 00:29:54,559

and and just just get it out right

 

785

00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:56,594

right away in the front side

 

786

00:29:56,594 --> 00:29:58,096

with clear communication.

 

787

00:29:58,096 --> 00:29:59,597

I think that set your expectations

 

788

00:29:59,597 --> 00:30:02,534

right away. And. Be very transparent.

 

789

00:30:02,534 --> 00:30:04,335

And I think that's a great start.

 

790

00:30:04,335 --> 00:30:06,137

Man. I am such

 

791

00:30:07,438 --> 00:30:09,507

I am such a stickler on being on time.

 

792

00:30:09,507 --> 00:30:10,675

I can't begin to tell you

 

793

00:30:10,675 --> 00:30:13,077

if you really want to tick me off

 

794

00:30:13,077 --> 00:30:16,047

in that job or this job, be late

 

795

00:30:16,781 --> 00:30:18,783

and be unprepared.

 

796

00:30:18,783 --> 00:30:21,419

Think do not show up unprepared, man.

 

797

00:30:21,419 --> 00:30:23,054

I am I.

 

798

00:30:23,054 --> 00:30:24,389

I cannot tell you how

 

799

00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:26,124

much that bothers me.

 

800

00:30:26,124 --> 00:30:29,127

It just.

 

801

00:30:29,928 --> 00:30:31,329

It just doesn't fly with me.

 

802

00:30:31,329 --> 00:30:32,697

So.

 

803

00:30:32,697 --> 00:30:35,967

So after talking to this woman today

 

804

00:30:35,967 --> 00:30:37,402

and I can't believe

 

805

00:30:37,402 --> 00:30:38,570

we're doing a show about it,

 

806

00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:40,805

I think another way of building

 

807

00:30:40,805 --> 00:30:43,942

a little trust is to let

 

808

00:30:43,942 --> 00:30:45,476

people know

 

809

00:30:45,476 --> 00:30:47,078

that you've been properly trained.

 

810

00:30:47,078 --> 00:30:48,780

Let people know

 

811

00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:51,382

that you're a member of the WFA,

 

812

00:30:51,382 --> 00:30:52,050

that you've.

 

813

00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:55,019

You've done training, that you have

 

814

00:30:55,153 --> 00:30:57,989

a certificate.

 

815

00:30:57,989 --> 00:30:59,924

And, you know, I mean, that's

 

816

00:30:59,924 --> 00:31:00,325

that's why

 

817

00:31:00,325 --> 00:31:01,559

we give you these certificates.

 

818

00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:02,527

We want you to use them.

 

819

00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:04,095

I mean, I know some people

 

820

00:31:04,095 --> 00:31:05,763

hang them up on the wall and that's good.

 

821

00:31:05,763 --> 00:31:07,599

But you know, maybe also

 

822

00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:11,236

to get a little trust

 

823

00:31:11,236 --> 00:31:14,505

and to let people know, hey, I'm See.

 

824

00:31:15,807 --> 00:31:17,275

I'm glad you brought that up.

 

825

00:31:17,275 --> 00:31:18,276

That's why

 

826

00:31:18,276 --> 00:31:19,377

I like doing this show with you.

 

827

00:31:19,377 --> 00:31:20,812

You got some real brilliant.

 

828

00:31:20,812 --> 00:31:22,013

You don't know.

 

829

00:31:22,013 --> 00:31:22,547

You don't know

 

830

00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:23,748

when you bring up something brilliant,

 

831

00:31:23,748 --> 00:31:24,983

But when you do bring up something,

 

832

00:31:24,983 --> 00:31:25,250

bring it.

 

833

00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:27,652

I recognize it and I expound on it.

 

834

00:31:27,652 --> 00:31:30,088

Okay,

 

835

00:31:30,088 --> 00:31:32,857

Well, actually, half a bell.

 

836

00:31:32,857 --> 00:31:34,792

Here's the thing about that.

 

837

00:31:34,792 --> 00:31:37,395

I've so many times heard people say,

 

838

00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:38,897

I'm a member of the FAA

 

839

00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:40,665

or I've gone to the end of day schools

 

840

00:31:40,665 --> 00:31:41,399

and nobody

 

841

00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:42,233

there's your tape is don't

 

842

00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:44,335

do me any good. Nobody asked.

 

843

00:31:44,335 --> 00:31:47,205

And here's how I here's how I sell those.

 

844

00:31:47,205 --> 00:31:47,939

Listen,

 

845

00:31:47,939 --> 00:31:49,474

I just want to let you know

 

846

00:31:49,474 --> 00:31:51,309

that we do take advantage

 

847

00:31:51,309 --> 00:31:52,677

of training in the industry.

 

848

00:31:52,677 --> 00:31:53,511

It may not mean

 

849

00:31:53,511 --> 00:31:54,579

something to a lot of people,

 

850

00:31:54,579 --> 00:31:55,880

but it means a lot to us

 

851

00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,882

because there's a lot of new technology

 

852

00:31:57,882 --> 00:31:59,250

in the last five years

 

853

00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:01,686

and we're on top of all that.

 

854

00:32:01,686 --> 00:32:03,655

We make sure the guys go to school,

 

855

00:32:03,655 --> 00:32:04,789

we get training

 

856

00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:07,191

and we take this seriously

 

857

00:32:07,191 --> 00:32:08,826

and here's our certificate.

 

858

00:32:08,826 --> 00:32:09,894

Now, like I said,

 

859

00:32:09,894 --> 00:32:11,162

some people, they look at this

 

860

00:32:11,162 --> 00:32:13,331

and it may not be anything to me, to you,

 

861

00:32:13,331 --> 00:32:15,633

but to us for our core values

 

862

00:32:15,633 --> 00:32:16,701

in our company,

 

863

00:32:16,701 --> 00:32:17,268

that we know

 

864

00:32:17,268 --> 00:32:17,869

there's a difference

 

865

00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:19,170

when you have a trained guy on a job

 

866

00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:20,571

and you don't have a train guy in a job

 

867

00:32:20,571 --> 00:32:23,007

or a guy that's been like kind of like,

 

868

00:32:24,142 --> 00:32:24,976

you know, has a good

 

869

00:32:24,976 --> 00:32:26,311

sense of how to do floors

 

870

00:32:26,311 --> 00:32:27,679

or he was taught by his uncle

 

871

00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:28,980

or his brother or whatever.

 

872

00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:30,081

That's not how we run things

 

873

00:32:30,081 --> 00:32:30,882

at the company.

 

874

00:32:30,882 --> 00:32:32,951

And we get them all training.

 

875

00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:34,585

And so you telling me

 

876

00:32:34,585 --> 00:32:36,955

that certificate means nothing now?

 

877

00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:37,922

I think it does mean

 

878

00:32:37,922 --> 00:32:38,990

I think it does mean no.

 

879

00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:40,458

I think it says a lot about the

 

880

00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:41,793

about the company and the character

 

881

00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:42,360

and what have you.

 

882

00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,996

So my $0.02 worth.

 

883

00:32:44,996 --> 00:32:45,930

I agree.

 

884

00:32:45,930 --> 00:32:48,266

I don't get me wrong.

 

885

00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:49,500

Let me say this.

 

886

00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:52,136

There are some third floor guys out there

 

887

00:32:52,136 --> 00:32:52,904

that have never gone

 

888

00:32:52,904 --> 00:32:54,505

to any end of schools, any

 

889

00:32:54,505 --> 00:32:55,907

any any, any

 

890

00:32:55,907 --> 00:32:57,809

manufacturers training schools.

 

891

00:32:57,809 --> 00:32:58,876

I totally recognize

 

892

00:32:58,876 --> 00:33:00,178

that there are some very,

 

893

00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:01,412

very talented people out there

 

894

00:33:01,412 --> 00:33:02,747

that have not gone to any schools.

 

895

00:33:02,747 --> 00:33:04,315

I totally recognize that.

 

896

00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:07,318

But I also think that I'm a big believer

 

897

00:33:07,318 --> 00:33:08,086

in training

 

898

00:33:08,086 --> 00:33:10,688

and it is a great sales tool

 

899

00:33:10,688 --> 00:33:12,924

if you if you use it properly,

 

900

00:33:15,326 --> 00:33:17,328

All right.

 

901

00:33:17,328 --> 00:33:20,331

At the Bone Convention,

 

902

00:33:20,531 --> 00:33:22,934

I was working the

 

903

00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:23,601

you know?

 

904

00:33:23,601 --> 00:33:26,604

Yep.

 

905

00:33:45,823 --> 00:33:48,826

Okay.

 

906

00:34:01,339 --> 00:34:04,342

Got the gold.

 

907

00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:53,958

You are so good.

 

908

00:34:53,958 --> 00:34:56,928

Yeah, you're good.

 

909

00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:10,408

There you go.

 

910

00:35:10,408 --> 00:35:10,808

Back in the.

 

911

00:35:10,808 --> 00:35:13,811

Game.

 

912

00:35:20,384 --> 00:35:23,387

No, I think that's, that's brilliant.

 

913

00:35:24,021 --> 00:35:27,024

Especially with the epic filter.

 

914

00:36:00,358 --> 00:36:01,259

Yeah.

 

915

00:36:01,259 --> 00:36:01,993

right?

 

916

00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,561

Really talking

 

917

00:36:03,561 --> 00:36:06,097

your dust containment system up.

 

918

00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:09,100

Really talking up the Green Guard gold,

 

919

00:36:09,467 --> 00:36:10,868

I mean. Yeah, we're selling.

 

920

00:36:10,868 --> 00:36:11,135

We're going

 

921

00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:14,138

to make more money for ourselves, but

 

922

00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:17,175

we're going to get trust.

 

923

00:36:18,776 --> 00:36:19,977

I think so much of it too

 

924

00:36:19,977 --> 00:36:21,679

has to do with communication.

 

925

00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,682

I mean, it is

 

926

00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:27,351

so, so important

 

927

00:36:27,351 --> 00:36:29,687

how you say something to somebody

 

928

00:36:29,687 --> 00:36:30,821

and for dealing with,

 

929

00:36:30,821 --> 00:36:32,056

with with homeowners.

 

930

00:36:32,056 --> 00:36:33,157

With with with ladies

 

931

00:36:33,157 --> 00:36:34,458

in the house or whatever.

 

932

00:36:34,458 --> 00:36:36,627

And you start mansplaining stuff

 

933

00:36:36,627 --> 00:36:38,629

or you start talking down to people,

 

934

00:36:38,629 --> 00:36:39,330

you start to act like

 

935

00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:41,132

you should know this already or whatever,

 

936

00:36:41,132 --> 00:36:41,966

Why are you even asking

 

937

00:36:41,966 --> 00:36:44,235

this question, man? It's just a

 

938

00:36:45,903 --> 00:36:48,005

you know,

 

939

00:36:48,005 --> 00:36:48,573

it's a

 

940

00:36:48,573 --> 00:36:49,707

sure fire way

 

941

00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:51,509

to just shoot yourself in the foot

 

942

00:36:51,509 --> 00:36:52,577

and start a relationship

 

943

00:36:52,577 --> 00:36:54,679

that starts going south real quick.

 

944

00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:56,948

If you don't have any empathy for them,

 

945

00:36:56,948 --> 00:36:58,816

if you don't hear them,

 

946

00:36:58,816 --> 00:37:00,117

I mean, you know what I mean?

 

947

00:37:00,117 --> 00:37:03,120

We both know a sales rep, you and I,

 

948

00:37:04,388 --> 00:37:07,258

that had zero empathy

 

949

00:37:07,258 --> 00:37:08,926

and would not listen to people.

 

950

00:37:08,926 --> 00:37:10,528

He would hear people talk,

 

951

00:37:10,528 --> 00:37:12,463

but he would not listen to people.

 

952

00:37:12,463 --> 00:37:15,466

And and he would like

 

953

00:37:15,466 --> 00:37:17,101

wait for you to get finished talking.

 

954

00:37:17,101 --> 00:37:19,537

And he would just put himself on pause.

 

955

00:37:19,537 --> 00:37:21,339

And then and then and then just

 

956

00:37:21,339 --> 00:37:23,040

just so he could start talking again.

 

957

00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,175

You know what I mean?

 

958

00:37:24,175 --> 00:37:25,843

And just kind of talk to over people

 

959

00:37:25,843 --> 00:37:28,579

and what have you. And so

 

960

00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:31,115

that is a skill.

 

961

00:37:31,115 --> 00:37:32,250

I said, my.

 

962

00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:35,152

Uncle. Was

 

963

00:37:35,152 --> 00:37:36,387

I don't think he was one of the best four

 

964

00:37:36,387 --> 00:37:37,989

guys I ever know.

 

965

00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:39,323

I mean, he was a good floor guy.

 

966

00:37:39,323 --> 00:37:42,326

But but I think what

 

967

00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:44,195

what made him successful is

 

968

00:37:44,195 --> 00:37:46,397

he was so believable and trustworthy,

 

969

00:37:46,397 --> 00:37:46,964

you know what I mean?

 

970

00:37:46,964 --> 00:37:47,465

And people were just

 

971

00:37:47,465 --> 00:37:49,233

so put at ease with him.

 

972

00:37:49,233 --> 00:37:51,335

And and there's just a communication,

 

973

00:37:51,335 --> 00:37:52,370

communication skills

 

974

00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:54,005

which were fantastic.

 

975

00:37:54,005 --> 00:37:57,008

And that all kind of goes towards

 

976

00:37:57,141 --> 00:37:59,043

the skill on the trust.

 

977

00:37:59,043 --> 00:38:02,046

So I think that's as important.

 

978

00:38:02,947 --> 00:38:04,815

I would if I was back in the game

 

979

00:38:04,815 --> 00:38:05,549

and had been

 

980

00:38:05,549 --> 00:38:07,285

just doing estimates and everything,

 

981

00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:09,820

I would be treating everybody

 

982

00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:12,757

like they are scared to death

 

983

00:38:12,757 --> 00:38:14,959

of not really knowing me.

 

984

00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:16,827

Maybe they heard about me.

 

985

00:38:16,827 --> 00:38:19,664

There's going to be a you know what?

 

986

00:38:19,664 --> 00:38:20,631

Like when that woman

 

987

00:38:20,631 --> 00:38:23,134

said this to me today,

 

988

00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:25,603

I've been screwed so many times.

 

989

00:38:25,603 --> 00:38:27,305

Wow. And,

 

990

00:38:28,539 --> 00:38:30,541

you know, nowadays,

 

991

00:38:30,541 --> 00:38:31,642

you know it

 

992

00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:33,678

there's a lot of that going on out there.

 

993

00:38:33,678 --> 00:38:34,312

I think.

 

994

00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:37,214

I think I treat every customer like

 

995

00:38:37,214 --> 00:38:39,083

this person has been wronged

 

996

00:38:39,083 --> 00:38:40,151

a bunch of times.

 

997

00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:43,154

I'm going to be the one that,

 

998

00:38:43,387 --> 00:38:44,955

Yep,

 

999

00:38:44,955 --> 00:38:46,290

yep. Yep.

 

1000

00:38:46,290 --> 00:38:49,293

Good stuff.

 

1001

00:38:50,895 --> 00:38:52,630

What are the three key elements of trust?

 

1002

00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:54,565

Rob

 

1003

00:38:54,565 --> 00:38:57,568

right.

 

1004

00:38:57,735 --> 00:38:59,770

The judgment and expertise,

 

1005

00:38:59,770 --> 00:39:01,138

boom, right off the bat.

 

1006

00:39:01,138 --> 00:39:04,108

That's number one.

 

1007

00:39:04,241 --> 00:39:05,810

You can't argue with that.

 

1008

00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:07,144

And we go back to

 

1009

00:39:07,144 --> 00:39:08,446

what we were just saying.

 

1010

00:39:08,446 --> 00:39:10,648

If you're the expert,

 

1011

00:39:10,648 --> 00:39:13,084

you got to be able to explain to them

 

1012

00:39:13,084 --> 00:39:16,087

why you're the Well, that goes

 

1013

00:39:16,153 --> 00:39:17,188

back to what we talked

 

1014

00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:18,589

about with schools and also, well,

 

1015

00:39:18,589 --> 00:39:21,592

I, well, I said I don't like yeah,

 

1016

00:39:21,592 --> 00:39:22,727

I don't like to give out

 

1017

00:39:22,727 --> 00:39:24,328

like the last three people that did

 

1018

00:39:24,328 --> 00:39:25,830

as four as we lived in the Bay Area.

 

1019

00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:26,731

People are boom boom,

 

1020

00:39:26,731 --> 00:39:28,399

they're fast, you know, I mean they're

 

1021

00:39:28,399 --> 00:39:30,301

they don't have time then whatever.

 

1022

00:39:30,301 --> 00:39:31,469

Come over look at my house.

 

1023

00:39:31,469 --> 00:39:32,169

Yeah they did a great

 

1024

00:39:32,169 --> 00:39:33,971

they didn't know when it's time for that.

 

1025

00:39:33,971 --> 00:39:36,207

But what I would do

 

1026

00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:38,909

is show pictures of my past jobs

 

1027

00:39:38,909 --> 00:39:39,844

in presentations

 

1028

00:39:39,844 --> 00:39:42,413

and videos of in-progress stuff.

 

1029

00:39:42,413 --> 00:39:43,180

Here's a challenge

 

1030

00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:44,849

that this one before had,

 

1031

00:39:44,849 --> 00:39:46,317

and this is what we did,

 

1032

00:39:46,317 --> 00:39:47,418

and this is why it turned out

 

1033

00:39:47,418 --> 00:39:48,986

the way that it didn't want to have you.

 

1034

00:39:48,986 --> 00:39:50,221

And, you know,

 

1035

00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:52,423

and the different species of wood, man.

 

1036

00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:53,157

And also,

 

1037

00:39:54,625 --> 00:39:55,826

you know, there's so many

 

1038

00:39:55,826 --> 00:39:56,727

things that are subjective

 

1039

00:39:56,727 --> 00:39:57,628

about floors

 

1040

00:39:57,628 --> 00:39:59,130

that this is where a lot of times

 

1041

00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,165

where you get caught,

 

1042

00:40:01,165 --> 00:40:02,199

I don't say get cut,

 

1043

00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:05,035

but get yourself in a bad situation.

 

1044

00:40:05,035 --> 00:40:07,138

You start breaking out the wood floors.

 

1045

00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:07,304

Well,

 

1046

00:40:07,304 --> 00:40:08,906

I thought all the floors

 

1047

00:40:08,906 --> 00:40:09,407

were going to be.

 

1048

00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:11,375

How come so many short boards?

 

1049

00:40:11,375 --> 00:40:12,176

I thought,

 

1050

00:40:12,176 --> 00:40:12,843

why are you giving me

 

1051

00:40:12,843 --> 00:40:13,711

all the short boards?

 

1052

00:40:13,711 --> 00:40:15,312

I thought they're going to be long ones.

 

1053

00:40:15,312 --> 00:40:15,713

Let's see.

 

1054

00:40:15,713 --> 00:40:18,349

The existing house has all eight foot,

 

1055

00:40:18,349 --> 00:40:19,583

nine foot, ten foot boards

 

1056

00:40:19,583 --> 00:40:21,385

because it was a 1930s not.

 

1057

00:40:21,385 --> 00:40:24,388

I mean, now we've got nested bundles.

 

1058

00:40:24,455 --> 00:40:25,556

So building the job,

 

1059

00:40:25,556 --> 00:40:26,924

that's something that would be

 

1060

00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:27,758

good thing to point out.

 

1061

00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:29,527

I just want to let you know,

 

1062

00:40:29,527 --> 00:40:30,761

in today's modern floors

 

1063

00:40:30,761 --> 00:40:32,163

it comes nested bundles.

 

1064

00:40:32,163 --> 00:40:33,264

However, we stagger

 

1065

00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:34,398

the boards really nicely

 

1066

00:40:34,398 --> 00:40:35,699

and we make sure that we don't

 

1067

00:40:35,699 --> 00:40:37,001

put any clusters in this,

 

1068

00:40:37,001 --> 00:40:38,969

that in the area and what have you.

 

1069

00:40:38,969 --> 00:40:40,771

And It does explain that to them

 

1070

00:40:40,771 --> 00:40:43,541

because if you're expecting that floor

 

1071

00:40:43,541 --> 00:40:45,109

and you're going to get this floor,

 

1072

00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:46,110

we're already

 

1073

00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:48,979

we're already on opposite sides of,

 

1074

00:40:48,979 --> 00:40:51,649

you know, right. Right.

 

1075

00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:54,351

I wonder if that's a question.

 

1076

00:40:54,351 --> 00:40:55,986

Is that a question?

 

1077

00:40:55,986 --> 00:40:56,987

You think that's a question

 

1078

00:40:56,987 --> 00:40:58,189

you should ask?

 

1079

00:40:58,189 --> 00:41:01,192

What are your concerns?

 

1080

00:41:02,726 --> 00:41:03,327

100%.

 

1081

00:41:03,327 --> 00:41:04,094

What are your concerns

 

1082

00:41:04,094 --> 00:41:06,030

having your floors that.

 

1083

00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:07,731

Yeah. About this job?

 

1084

00:41:07,731 --> 00:41:10,734

Maybe one of them is a bathroom.

 

1085

00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:15,840

I'm not I'm not saying

 

1086

00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,843

I had a bad experience.

 

1087

00:41:22,746 --> 00:41:23,547

Yeah, it looks like

 

1088

00:41:23,547 --> 00:41:26,517

he's got a huge shirt on

 

1089

00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:47,137

You know,

 

1090

00:41:47,137 --> 00:41:48,172

there

 

1091

00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:51,075

isn't many things more uncomfortable

 

1092

00:41:51,075 --> 00:41:52,977

when you know you got a customer

 

1093

00:41:52,977 --> 00:41:54,778

that is sideways

 

1094

00:41:54,778 --> 00:41:56,280

and you're on the job

 

1095

00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,249

good, bad or right or wrong

 

1096

00:41:58,249 --> 00:41:59,750

that, that you can tell

 

1097

00:41:59,750 --> 00:42:01,418

that the trust isn't there

 

1098

00:42:01,418 --> 00:42:03,687

or an expectation isn't there

 

1099

00:42:03,687 --> 00:42:05,923

or something is going to miss and.

 

1100

00:42:05,923 --> 00:42:06,824

When you find yourself

 

1101

00:42:06,824 --> 00:42:08,659

on that side of the equation,

 

1102

00:42:08,659 --> 00:42:09,660

that's a bad place to be.

 

1103

00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:10,828

And I'll tell you something,

 

1104

00:42:10,828 --> 00:42:11,695

that's why I stopped

 

1105

00:42:11,695 --> 00:42:15,699

doing insurance work, because when I when

 

1106

00:42:17,635 --> 00:42:18,836

when we did your floors,

 

1107

00:42:18,836 --> 00:42:20,638

95% of the time,

 

1108

00:42:20,638 --> 00:42:22,740

we were probably referred by somebody,

 

1109

00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:23,407

right?

 

1110

00:42:23,407 --> 00:42:24,475

Somebody says, Hey,

 

1111

00:42:24,475 --> 00:42:25,876

yeah, wing or whatever,

 

1112

00:42:25,876 --> 00:42:26,477

had any floors

 

1113

00:42:26,477 --> 00:42:27,278

that our floor has been

 

1114

00:42:27,278 --> 00:42:28,012

and did a fantastic

 

1115

00:42:28,012 --> 00:42:29,780

job, blah, blah, blah.

 

1116

00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:31,549

But when I did insurance work,

 

1117

00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:33,517

I'm somebody they don't know.

 

1118

00:42:33,517 --> 00:42:34,618

They got sent in here

 

1119

00:42:34,618 --> 00:42:35,986

by an insurance company.

 

1120

00:42:35,986 --> 00:42:37,555

They're already thinking,

 

1121

00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:37,888

you know,

 

1122

00:42:37,888 --> 00:42:39,123

I paid all this insurance money

 

1123

00:42:39,123 --> 00:42:41,358

all the time, I'm going to get screwed.

 

1124

00:42:41,358 --> 00:42:42,693

That they're you know, they're expecting

 

1125

00:42:42,693 --> 00:42:43,227

that their floors

 

1126

00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:44,528

are going to be replaced.

 

1127

00:42:44,528 --> 00:42:45,262

Insurance companies

 

1128

00:42:45,262 --> 00:42:46,797

just going to stay here and finish it.

 

1129

00:42:46,797 --> 00:42:47,798

And. Sometimes everything.

 

1130

00:42:47,798 --> 00:42:50,601

And I'm going to show I'm disappointed

 

1131

00:42:50,601 --> 00:42:52,536

and that they should have replaced

 

1132

00:42:52,536 --> 00:42:54,638

my floors. You see what I'm saying?

 

1133

00:42:54,638 --> 00:42:56,707

There's there's no trust there.

 

1134

00:42:56,707 --> 00:42:58,709

And I would have to work to build.

 

1135

00:42:58,709 --> 00:43:00,945

I would have to work that entire job

 

1136

00:43:00,945 --> 00:43:02,980

too hard to build that trust.

 

1137

00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:03,881

And after a while I was like,

 

1138

00:43:03,881 --> 00:43:05,115

I don't need this.

 

1139

00:43:05,115 --> 00:43:05,783

I don't have to

 

1140

00:43:05,783 --> 00:43:07,017

I don't want to have to fight like did.

 

1141

00:43:07,017 --> 00:43:07,585

I mean,

 

1142

00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:08,352

I want to have to fight

 

1143

00:43:08,352 --> 00:43:09,453

that long to build their,

 

1144

00:43:09,453 --> 00:43:11,055

trust me, have on referral jobs.

 

1145

00:43:11,055 --> 00:43:11,789

They know who I am

 

1146

00:43:11,789 --> 00:43:13,691

and it's a much easier conversation

 

1147

00:43:13,691 --> 00:43:15,259

and blah blah, blah.

 

1148

00:43:15,259 --> 00:43:16,327

And and I didn't

 

1149

00:43:16,327 --> 00:43:17,428

want to jump through all the hoops

 

1150

00:43:17,428 --> 00:43:18,262

and play the games that the

 

1151

00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:20,331

insurance companies play. So

 

1152

00:43:21,265 --> 00:43:24,001

then I'll tell you what,

 

1153

00:43:24,001 --> 00:43:26,937

referrals are gold referrals.

 

1154

00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:28,105

I mean,

 

1155

00:43:28,105 --> 00:43:30,541

that's why by doing these type of things,

 

1156

00:43:30,541 --> 00:43:31,875

by doing all these things,

 

1157

00:43:31,875 --> 00:43:33,544

we're talking about showing up.

 

1158

00:43:33,544 --> 00:43:35,412

Don't park in the parking lot

 

1159

00:43:35,412 --> 00:43:36,380

because

 

1160

00:43:36,380 --> 00:43:38,048

you got a little bit of an oil leak

 

1161

00:43:38,048 --> 00:43:38,849

given the newspaper.

 

1162

00:43:38,849 --> 00:43:40,951

As soon as you walk in all these things,

 

1163

00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:41,819

you do those things

 

1164

00:43:41,819 --> 00:43:43,087

and you don't have to advertise

 

1165

00:43:43,087 --> 00:43:44,855

a lot of times for a small company.

 

1166

00:43:44,855 --> 00:43:46,423

So the effort

 

1167

00:43:46,423 --> 00:43:48,192

you put into doing these things,

 

1168

00:43:48,192 --> 00:43:49,226

give them the floor kit,

 

1169

00:43:49,226 --> 00:43:51,362

give them coasters for the furniture

 

1170

00:43:51,362 --> 00:43:52,296

in my mind

 

1171

00:43:52,296 --> 00:43:53,130

replaces

 

1172

00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:54,031

what you would have to do

 

1173

00:43:54,031 --> 00:43:55,966

to advertise to pick up more jobs.

 

1174

00:43:55,966 --> 00:43:57,368

You see what I'm saying?

 

1175

00:43:57,368 --> 00:44:00,371

tell everybody in our schools, okay.

 

1176

00:44:00,404 --> 00:44:03,040

Referral money, referral

 

1177

00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,210

referrals are how much referrals are.

 

1178

00:44:06,510 --> 00:44:08,479

One, can you get in here? They Yeah,

 

1179

00:44:09,546 --> 00:44:09,947

yeah,

 

1180

00:44:09,947 --> 00:44:12,983

yeah, is is the best work.

 

1181

00:44:13,150 --> 00:44:15,319

Everything that that we're doing,

 

1182

00:44:15,319 --> 00:44:16,153

we're doing floor

 

1183

00:44:16,153 --> 00:44:17,621

should be working around

 

1184

00:44:17,621 --> 00:44:21,358

getting that referral, making that person

 

1185

00:44:21,358 --> 00:44:23,427

so happy that

 

1186

00:44:23,427 --> 00:44:24,028

we know

 

1187

00:44:24,028 --> 00:44:26,430

that they're going to talk about us.

 

1188

00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:26,797

All right.

 

1189

00:44:26,797 --> 00:44:28,332

Let's move on to the next one

 

1190

00:44:28,332 --> 00:44:29,733

then the last one. All right.

 

1191

00:44:29,733 --> 00:44:32,736

So our first the three

 

1192

00:44:33,103 --> 00:44:35,105

elements of trust, positive

 

1193

00:44:35,105 --> 00:44:36,573

relationships,

 

1194

00:44:36,573 --> 00:44:38,142

good judgment and expertise.

 

1195

00:44:38,142 --> 00:44:39,843

And the final one,

 

1196

00:44:39,843 --> 00:44:42,212

this one says Wayne Highlander.

 

1197

00:44:42,212 --> 00:44:43,113

All over it.

 

1198

00:44:43,113 --> 00:44:46,116

I'm going to give you a belt just for

 

1199

00:44:46,884 --> 00:44:48,118

consistency.

 

1200

00:44:48,118 --> 00:44:49,053

Go.

 

1201

00:44:49,053 --> 00:44:52,056

This is you, baby.

 

1202

00:44:53,357 --> 00:44:55,192

Just kidding.

 

1203

00:44:55,192 --> 00:44:56,527

Well, that,

 

1204

00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:58,696

that, that to me is having a system,

 

1205

00:44:58,696 --> 00:45:02,366

having a system that works and,

 

1206

00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:03,133

you know, that's why

 

1207

00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:04,301

we never had a floor like,

 

1208

00:45:04,301 --> 00:45:04,535

okay,

 

1209

00:45:04,535 --> 00:45:05,669

if we're going to do a natural floor,

 

1210

00:45:05,669 --> 00:45:06,870

we send it with this.

 

1211

00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:08,639

If we're going to do a dark scene,

 

1212

00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:10,040

we do it like this.

 

1213

00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,141

We did them all the same

 

1214

00:45:11,141 --> 00:45:12,476

that we didn't have to worry

 

1215

00:45:12,476 --> 00:45:13,377

that there would be like,

 

1216

00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:14,978

well, they change colors, whatever.

 

1217

00:45:14,978 --> 00:45:17,147

Now, our standing system may not

 

1218

00:45:17,147 --> 00:45:17,815

be shows,

 

1219

00:45:17,815 --> 00:45:19,316

surface scratches

 

1220

00:45:19,316 --> 00:45:19,950

and that type of stuff

 

1221

00:45:19,950 --> 00:45:21,885

because we didn't send it the same way.

 

1222

00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:23,454

That's why we didn't

 

1223

00:45:23,454 --> 00:45:24,988

have three different prices.

 

1224

00:45:24,988 --> 00:45:25,355

You know,

 

1225

00:45:25,355 --> 00:45:26,790

we didn't have a razzle dazzle price

 

1226

00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:27,691

and a good price

 

1227

00:45:27,691 --> 00:45:28,759

because every one of them,

 

1228

00:45:28,759 --> 00:45:30,627

every one was a custom shop.

 

1229

00:45:30,627 --> 00:45:33,030

So and by doing that,

 

1230

00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:34,131

you didn't have to worry that,

 

1231

00:45:34,131 --> 00:45:35,632

okay, now we're really going.

 

1232

00:45:35,632 --> 00:45:37,935

That's why when you remember years ago,

 

1233

00:45:37,935 --> 00:45:39,169

when when the

 

1234

00:45:40,337 --> 00:45:41,972

natural floors were the thing

 

1235

00:45:41,972 --> 00:45:43,407

everybody wanted, natural finished

 

1236

00:45:43,407 --> 00:45:44,742

floor, light floor, natural feature.

 

1237

00:45:44,742 --> 00:45:46,677

I'm not talking about white stain either.

 

1238

00:45:46,677 --> 00:45:47,311

And then that

 

1239

00:45:47,311 --> 00:45:49,980

then that turned into dark stains.

 

1240

00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:50,881

And then you see guys

 

1241

00:45:50,881 --> 00:45:52,216

that got into the trade

 

1242

00:45:52,216 --> 00:45:54,618

the last five years were. Struggling.

 

1243

00:45:54,618 --> 00:45:56,019

Because what worked on those natural

 

1244

00:45:56,019 --> 00:45:57,888

finished floors was not working anymore

 

1245

00:45:57,888 --> 00:45:59,223

on those dark stain floors.

 

1246

00:45:59,223 --> 00:46:01,325

Right then, after water pop

 

1247

00:46:01,325 --> 00:46:03,794

maybe didn't have to do to find sand

 

1248

00:46:03,794 --> 00:46:06,463

as much and those type of things.

 

1249

00:46:06,463 --> 00:46:09,199

So it became a lot more challenging.

 

1250

00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:11,368

So consistency, the same products

 

1251

00:46:11,368 --> 00:46:13,470

using the same products, the system.

 

1252

00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:15,706

That's why we preach a system.

 

1253

00:46:15,706 --> 00:46:17,508

And you know, we've talked about

 

1254

00:46:17,508 --> 00:46:18,509

trust the beginning of this.

 

1255

00:46:18,509 --> 00:46:19,710

You know,

 

1256

00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:22,613

one thing we could do, we've got it from

 

1257

00:46:22,613 --> 00:46:24,448

from the from underneath the floor

 

1258

00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:26,784

with a real guard in the in the the.

 

1259

00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:27,785

The.

 

1260

00:46:27,785 --> 00:46:30,154

Adhesives to the stains the finishes.

 

1261

00:46:30,154 --> 00:46:30,354

You know,

 

1262

00:46:30,354 --> 00:46:31,388

we have

 

1263

00:46:31,388 --> 00:46:32,823

products that are green guard gold

 

1264

00:46:32,823 --> 00:46:34,925

all the way from top to bottom,

 

1265

00:46:34,925 --> 00:46:36,660

even to the floor care.

 

1266

00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:39,363

So it's be a great niche for somebody

 

1267

00:46:39,363 --> 00:46:41,031

that says listen we can

 

1268

00:46:41,031 --> 00:46:43,400

we can get you in here where it doesn't

 

1269

00:46:44,735 --> 00:46:45,469

contribute to

 

1270

00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:46,570

indoor air pollution

 

1271

00:46:46,570 --> 00:46:48,138

and that type of stuff

 

1272

00:46:48,138 --> 00:46:50,741

that can be a great news for somebody,

 

1273

00:46:50,741 --> 00:46:53,010

but using consistent products

 

1274

00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:54,812

and not bouncing around

 

1275

00:46:54,812 --> 00:46:56,947

and and your sanding system,

 

1276

00:46:56,947 --> 00:46:58,248

that's you guys are all in

 

1277

00:46:58,248 --> 00:46:59,016

and doing the same thing.

 

1278

00:46:59,016 --> 00:47:02,019

The same the same way every time.

 

1279

00:47:02,686 --> 00:47:03,687

Okay.

 

1280

00:47:03,687 --> 00:47:05,022

So there you go.

 

1281

00:47:05,022 --> 00:47:05,923

Those are the three keys

 

1282

00:47:05,923 --> 00:47:07,724

of trust, consistency,

 

1283

00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:10,494

good judgment, expertise

 

1284

00:47:10,494 --> 00:47:13,497

and a positive relationship.

 

1285

00:47:16,033 --> 00:47:16,667

And I'll just say

 

1286

00:47:16,667 --> 00:47:18,135

the last thing again,

 

1287

00:47:18,135 --> 00:47:20,037

we kind of talked about this beginning.

 

1288

00:47:20,037 --> 00:47:23,040

If there is a problem,

 

1289

00:47:23,073 --> 00:47:24,675

jump on it right away.

 

1290

00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:26,610

Donald Procrastinate, man.

 

1291

00:47:26,610 --> 00:47:27,778

Get on it right now.

 

1292

00:47:27,778 --> 00:47:29,880

I mean, no matter what else is going on,

 

1293

00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,781

at the very least,

 

1294

00:47:30,781 --> 00:47:32,115

return the phone call

 

1295

00:47:32,115 --> 00:47:34,551

and be responsive on the phone call

 

1296

00:47:34,551 --> 00:47:38,422

because it's like what happened with my,

 

1297

00:47:38,422 --> 00:47:41,425

you know, a fishing thing, man.

 

1298

00:47:41,658 --> 00:47:43,560

The longer it goes, the worse it gets.

 

1299

00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,962

And then then at the end,

 

1300

00:47:44,962 --> 00:47:46,930

if you do fail, if you do fix it,

 

1301

00:47:46,930 --> 00:47:47,931

it took so long.

 

1302

00:47:47,931 --> 00:47:50,167

Really, this was so frustrating to them

 

1303

00:47:50,167 --> 00:47:50,834

that their

 

1304

00:47:50,834 --> 00:47:51,301

it didn't leave

 

1305

00:47:51,301 --> 00:47:52,469

a good taste in your mouth

 

1306

00:47:52,469 --> 00:47:53,670

in the end anyhow.

 

1307

00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:56,506

So now we know.

 

1308

00:47:56,506 --> 00:47:57,341

people go to a dinner

 

1309

00:47:57,341 --> 00:47:59,843

party or party or whatever.

 

1310

00:47:59,843 --> 00:48:01,812

What are they going to talk more about?

 

1311

00:48:01,812 --> 00:48:03,347

A great job or a

 

1312

00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:06,650

Yeah.

 

1313

00:48:06,650 --> 00:48:09,620

Yep, yep,

 

1314

00:48:16,226 --> 00:48:17,494

yeah.

 

1315

00:48:17,494 --> 00:48:18,896

Yeah. 100% you.

 

1316

00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:19,963

I would never

 

1317

00:48:19,963 --> 00:48:21,031

the only time you would have seen

 

1318

00:48:21,031 --> 00:48:24,067

that scale is on the on the

 

1319

00:48:24,067 --> 00:48:27,070

with a fishing net off of it.

 

1320

00:48:27,971 --> 00:48:28,739

Yes.

 

1321

00:48:28,739 --> 00:48:30,440

you while you're pulling in another fish.

 

1322

00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,143

Yeah,

 

1323

00:48:33,143 --> 00:48:35,946

Now as I.

 

1324

00:48:35,946 --> 00:48:37,180

Yep.

 

1325

00:48:37,180 --> 00:48:40,183

And

 

1326

00:48:41,685 --> 00:48:44,688

yeah.

 

1327

00:48:49,326 --> 00:48:52,329

Yeah.

 

1328

00:48:55,132 --> 00:48:58,135

So

 

1329

00:48:59,970 --> 00:49:02,973

Yeah.

 

1330

00:49:04,241 --> 00:49:07,244

Yeah.

 

1331

00:49:18,588 --> 00:49:19,523

Is this company.

 

1332

00:49:19,523 --> 00:49:22,526

Yep.

 

1333

00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,810

Yep.

 

1334

00:49:43,647 --> 00:49:44,715

Yeah.

 

1335

00:49:44,715 --> 00:49:47,484

Just like a floor job.

 

1336

00:49:47,484 --> 00:49:49,086

Now having said everything

 

1337

00:49:49,086 --> 00:49:51,054

that Rob and I have said on this episode,

 

1338

00:49:51,054 --> 00:49:54,358

we know we're there's, there's some stars

 

1339

00:49:54,358 --> 00:49:55,392

that listen to the show,

 

1340

00:49:55,392 --> 00:49:56,426

some flat out studs

 

1341

00:49:56,426 --> 00:49:58,261

that that could write this book.

 

1342

00:49:58,261 --> 00:49:59,997

We know that we lead time.

 

1343

00:49:59,997 --> 00:50:01,798

We know that and respect that.

 

1344

00:50:01,798 --> 00:50:03,567

But this is maybe,

 

1345

00:50:03,567 --> 00:50:05,235

maybe someone in the trade

 

1346

00:50:05,235 --> 00:50:06,236

news guy or whatever.

 

1347

00:50:06,236 --> 00:50:07,204

Or maybe there's one thing

 

1348

00:50:07,204 --> 00:50:08,038

you can glean from this.

 

1349

00:50:08,038 --> 00:50:09,172

Like the bathroom

 

1350

00:50:09,172 --> 00:50:10,374

situation, for instance.

 

1351

00:50:13,677 --> 00:50:15,012

Maybe you could get that out of this.

 

1352

00:50:15,012 --> 00:50:16,279

I don't. Know.

 

1353

00:50:16,279 --> 00:50:17,514

I was personally offended

 

1354

00:50:17,514 --> 00:50:18,081

if someone told me

 

1355

00:50:18,081 --> 00:50:20,250

not to use the bathroom.

 

1356

00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:22,919

But now, as I've gotten older,

 

1357

00:50:22,919 --> 00:50:24,421

I could kind of see where

 

1358

00:50:24,421 --> 00:50:26,690

someone would would feel that way.

 

1359

00:50:26,690 --> 00:50:27,624

Like I said,

 

1360

00:50:27,624 --> 00:50:28,859

then you work it into the bin.

 

1361

00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:31,695

Here's the thing.

 

1362

00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:34,564

I started off by saying, for every five,

 

1363

00:50:34,564 --> 00:50:35,632

for every

 

1364

00:50:35,632 --> 00:50:38,635

five people that leads this trade,

 

1365

00:50:39,102 --> 00:50:41,304

two people are filling them shoes.

 

1366

00:50:41,304 --> 00:50:42,639

We should be able to charge

 

1367

00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:44,007

a lot more money

 

1368

00:50:44,007 --> 00:50:45,375

and we should be able to.

 

1369

00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:47,778

And by doing these things and gosh,

 

1370

00:50:47,778 --> 00:50:48,779

like I said,

 

1371

00:50:48,779 --> 00:50:50,280

I love my uncle and don't

 

1372

00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,615

I will never talk bad about him.

 

1373

00:50:51,615 --> 00:50:53,316

The guy was a wonderful human being,

 

1374

00:50:53,316 --> 00:50:54,351

one of the best I've ever known.

 

1375

00:50:55,318 --> 00:50:55,619

I think

 

1376

00:50:55,619 --> 00:50:57,087

it was an average floor guy,

 

1377

00:50:57,087 --> 00:50:57,687

you know, it

 

1378

00:50:57,687 --> 00:50:59,356

wasn't a great floor guy,

 

1379

00:50:59,356 --> 00:51:02,359

but he garnered much

 

1380

00:51:03,226 --> 00:51:04,294

trust with the people

 

1381

00:51:04,294 --> 00:51:05,796

because he put them at ease

 

1382

00:51:05,796 --> 00:51:07,998

and he was good at communication

 

1383

00:51:07,998 --> 00:51:09,366

and those type of things

 

1384

00:51:09,366 --> 00:51:11,701

that things weren't so much smoother.

 

1385

00:51:11,701 --> 00:51:14,538

So you take all these things

 

1386

00:51:14,538 --> 00:51:15,906

that can be on our side of the equation,

 

1387

00:51:15,906 --> 00:51:17,307

the fact that people are leaving

 

1388

00:51:17,307 --> 00:51:18,241

the industry,

 

1389

00:51:18,241 --> 00:51:20,310

the fact that there should be more money

 

1390

00:51:20,310 --> 00:51:22,245

available now, you know,

 

1391

00:51:22,245 --> 00:51:23,713

there's less competition

 

1392

00:51:23,713 --> 00:51:26,450

and these things that to build trust,

 

1393

00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:27,250

man, you could be

 

1394

00:51:27,250 --> 00:51:28,852

you could put yourself in a position

 

1395

00:51:28,852 --> 00:51:32,022

to be a rock star and to be financially.

 

1396

00:51:32,622 --> 00:51:32,989

Is.

 

1397

00:51:32,989 --> 00:51:34,858

Way, way better off

 

1398

00:51:34,858 --> 00:51:36,226

than we were back in the day.

 

1399

00:51:36,226 --> 00:51:38,895

So and we hope you do. We hope you do

 

1400

00:51:40,263 --> 00:51:41,331

okay?

 

1401

00:51:41,331 --> 00:51:43,133

It's what I've

 

1402

00:51:43,133 --> 00:51:44,835

been saying to the guys in training.

 

1403

00:51:44,835 --> 00:51:46,269

What we really need

 

1404

00:51:46,269 --> 00:51:48,338

to accomplish at training

 

1405

00:51:48,338 --> 00:51:50,540

is just what your uncle accomplished,

 

1406

00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:52,175

I think. Right.

 

1407

00:51:52,175 --> 00:51:55,178

People might not remember what he said.

 

1408

00:51:55,479 --> 00:51:58,348

They might not remember what you did,

 

1409

00:51:58,348 --> 00:51:59,716

but they'll always remember

 

1410

00:51:59,716 --> 00:52:01,618

how you made them feel.

 

1411

00:52:01,618 --> 00:52:02,819

it well.

 

1412

00:52:02,819 --> 00:52:05,789

It's an old adage that holds up.

 

1413

00:52:06,256 --> 00:52:08,258

Yeah, this stuff.

 

1414

00:52:08,258 --> 00:52:11,261

Okay, Rob.

 

1415

00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,803

I mean, he's probably.

 

1416

00:52:22,339 --> 00:52:23,607

Yeah.

 

1417

00:52:23,607 --> 00:52:26,343

And I'm saying he was

 

1418

00:52:26,343 --> 00:52:28,879

a good a good floor guy, that floor guy.

 

1419

00:52:28,879 --> 00:52:29,079

And I'm

 

1420

00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:31,648

sure he's better than your uncle, but.

 

1421

00:52:31,648 --> 00:52:34,618

You know.

 

1422

00:52:34,951 --> 00:52:36,186

There's been another episode

 

1423

00:52:36,186 --> 00:52:37,687

of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

1424

00:52:37,687 --> 00:52:39,189

Please stay tuned for another episode.