On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Thinking outside the box

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob discuss ways to think outside the box when running your business. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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Well, welcome to another

 

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episode of On the Floor

 

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with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne Highlander,

 

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National Sales Manager Bona Adhesives.

 

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And I'm Rob Johnson,

 

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who has not been nominated

 

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for 40 under 40 again.

 

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You keep looking and it's just not

 

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there, is it?

 

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I just every time I open the magazine up

 

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for the hey, here's the 40 under 40,

 

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I would think, and I would get

 

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that posthumously, humorously post humor.

 

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Is that right?

 

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You're the word guy.

 

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Well,

 

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I had it until you said it three times.

 

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Published posthumously.

 

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Oh, crap.

 

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I don't know. Posthumously.

 

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Nah, I think it's humorously post humor.

 

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Well, let's.

 

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Not look like idiots

 

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when they're very good.

 

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Right out of the gate.

 

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Okay.

 

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Series bell.

 

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Posthumously.

 

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Posthumously.

 

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Posthumously. Oh. Right.

 

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Posthumously.

 

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I think he said it wrong.

 

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Could be.

 

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So you keep looking in.

 

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Your name is still not there?

 

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Still not there.

 

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It's like the old carpenter said.

 

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I cut it three times. Is still too short.

 

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Still too short

 

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or like my grandfather used to say,

 

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the blind man who picked up his hammer

 

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and saw all Wayne Carpenter.

 

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He thought that was the funniest joke

 

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in the world.

 

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Picked up his hammer and saw.

 

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Picked up or his hammer and saw.

 

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Robbie,

 

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do you ever hear of the blind carpenter?

 

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He picked up his hammer and saw.

 

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Right.

 

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Rob? He's not on the show anymore.

 

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No, my grandfather called me Robbie.

 

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Oh, okay.

 

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You're looking for the last guy.

 

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That's pretty funny.

 

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All right.

 

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Yeah. 40 under 40.

 

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What is.

 

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How many years are you going to run this?

 

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Well, it started off 30 under 30.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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I feel like they didn't do that

 

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very long, Moran.

 

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I think they.

 

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I think they did it a couple of years.

 

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You're right.

 

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I think they've done 40 to 40 longer.

 

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I think so.

 

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I wonder if they ever going to do, like a

 

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it's like 50 over 50.

 

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Too many,

 

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although with the average age

 

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of the foreign contractor

 

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over 50 years old

 

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now some

 

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and maybe it would make sense, but

 

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I think 50.

 

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You can't you can't do 50 over 50.

 

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That's just the numbers don't work.

 

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I think you might have to do what if you

 

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you could do 40 or 50?

 

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I don't know.

 

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Wait a minute. Thinking out loud here.

 

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Wait a. Minute. You just messed it up.

 

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50 over 50.

 

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Under 50.

 

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You said 50 over 50.

 

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You're trying to lump yourself in.

 

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I see where you are.

 

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That's brilliant. It's.

 

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There you go. See?

 

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You want to say, I get it?

 

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No.

 

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If they change the wording.

 

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30 over 30. Boom.

 

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You can be in.

 

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Yeah. 40 over four.

 

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Yes. You want to go the other way?

 

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Not 40 under. 40 over.

 

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You know what?

 

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I islanders in every year.

 

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I've done every year.

 

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You know why that's.

 

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I actually hadn't thought about that way.

 

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Honest to God.

 

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But now that you do,

 

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it's pretty brilliant. Good work.

 

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Thank you.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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Yeah. Once in a while.

 

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All right.

 

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No, I'm just kidding.

 

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Congrats to all, all the. All the.

 

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Anyway, whoever wins

 

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the 40 under 40 or 30 under 30,

 

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whatever it is, I mean, congrats, man.

 

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It's it's fabulous. It's.

 

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It's a great honor. I know that the.

 

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I don't think

 

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they want any more nominees.

 

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I think they already have

 

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all the nominees

 

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for the next group of people.

 

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So I always look forward to

 

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to see who the next talented group is and

 

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excited for anybody who wins.

 

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All right, Rob,

 

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what is on your mind?

 

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What's today's show about?

 

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Thinking outside

 

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the box are your businesses

 

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that we're going with today.

 

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That you seriously had to ask me that?

 

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Thinking outside of the box,

 

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I'm looking at my paperwork here,

 

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and I think

 

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that's the one we're going with.

 

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Yeah, that's.

 

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That's what we'll go with. Okay.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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So

 

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what do you think about that?

 

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I think if you had thought

 

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outside the box and in about what show

 

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we were going to do about

 

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an hour

 

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before the show, it would have been nice.

 

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Well, we have a few.

 

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We had three that we're doing today.

 

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So I just want to make sure

 

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we're on the same page.

 

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Okay.

 

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I think this look and this and this time,

 

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you know, with the short

 

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staff that we all have,

 

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I think

 

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it's a great

 

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topic because to me, this whole

 

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the whole reason

 

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for being in business right now

 

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and with the

 

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where we are in the industry in this era

 

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is maximizing getting the most

 

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you possibly can

 

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for yourself out of your business.

 

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And thinking outside the box.

 

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We talk about other things.

 

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I mean, it all comes down to

 

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this is how do you make more money?

 

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And Rob

 

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says, Oh, people think I'm greedy.

 

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And it's not greedy at all.

 

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It's you need this, you deserve this.

 

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There's a lot of people

 

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that can't do this.

 

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It's terribly difficult doing flaws.

 

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And, you know, with the tools

 

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that are out there to help you today,

 

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anything that you can do

 

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to think outside the box

 

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and make more money for yourself

 

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if you're leaving any stones unturned?

 

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I think maybe there's a good it's

 

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good to talk about because

 

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especially when the demand is so great

 

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right now,

 

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you don't ever want to have that.

 

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And I've had the feeling before,

 

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I think we've all had that.

 

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I've left money on the table.

 

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There's a that's a that's a bad feeling

 

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to too

 

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and for leaving money

 

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on the table for a job is bad.

 

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Leaving money on the table for a career

 

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is criminal.

 

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I always say you got

 

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to think about, you know,

 

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this, this, this.

 

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You think about you on your shoulder.

 

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An old man, 70 year old man

 

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is is a 60 year old man.

 

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I keep

 

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thinking I keep moving it up more,

 

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but you have to think about that guy.

 

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That's you 20 years

 

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from now or 30 years from now.

 

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And you're going to get God forbid

 

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you mean you're going to get there

 

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one day. It's going to happen.

 

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You know, and I think the thing about

 

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slow change is, is very, very difficult

 

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sometimes to react to and deal with

 

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because it takes

 

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so, so long for it to happen.

 

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So, like, if it's going to rain tomorrow,

 

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you know, I was going to rain.

 

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I've got a button down hatches.

 

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I it's it's it's now

 

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the sense of urgency is now.

 

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But for things that develop over many,

 

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many years and decades,

 

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they don't seem as urgent.

 

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So we

 

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sometimes don't

 

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react to them appropriately.

 

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So I think if you take time to

 

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with this show

 

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and maybe,

 

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maybe think that

 

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that maybe you're missing something,

 

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maybe you can look at another way

 

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that you can maximize your

 

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earnings or your career.

 

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That was freaking brilliant.

 

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I just made that up right on the.

 

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Oh, I tell you, man,

 

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that's why you're a god.

 

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That's why your podcast God just.

 

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Just like that.

 

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It's just things like that.

 

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Just roll in, man and casserole

 

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that so good.

 

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All right, Rob,

 

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so are you thinking outside the box?

 

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Thinking outside the box.

 

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So, you know,

 

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I think we're at talk

 

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about some ideas

 

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to take a look at your business

 

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thinking outside the box.

 

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And of course, when I,

 

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you know,

 

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see these things

 

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and read about this stuff

 

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and talk about it,

 

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I just want to kick myself

 

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for not thinking of this

 

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when I had my own business.

 

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And this one

 

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almost goes

 

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completely against the grain for me.

 

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Like I never care

 

265

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what anybody else doing. You do, you

 

266

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do that.

 

267

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But who cares?

 

268

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Well.

 

269

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I can tell that by your shirt selection.

 

270

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Sorry. Go ahead.

 

271

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You do you?

 

272

00:07:42,094 --> 00:07:43,496

What's wrong with the shirt

 

273

00:07:43,496 --> 00:07:44,797

and nice shirt. It's a wrangler.

 

274

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Yeah.

 

275

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Suspenders that go with that

 

276

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because it feels like

 

277

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you should be wearing suspenders with it.

 

278

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Now, my Tiger Woods

 

279

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Sunday, last day of golf tournament.

 

280

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Yeah. Okay.

 

281

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All right.

 

282

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So

 

283

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one thing I wish I had looked at

 

284

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and I never thought about it.

 

285

00:08:00,780 --> 00:08:01,814

The mirror.

 

286

00:08:02,114 --> 00:08:04,116

Sorry. Oh, listen.

 

287

00:08:04,851 --> 00:08:06,285

I'm sorry. It.

 

288

00:08:06,285 --> 00:08:07,854

Oh, that was there.

 

289

00:08:07,854 --> 00:08:09,956

You can't do that about that.

 

290

00:08:10,323 --> 00:08:11,591

Sorry, please.

 

291

00:08:11,591 --> 00:08:12,391

Oh, you're

 

292

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you know, this is why my buddy Pete,

 

293

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it's not going to be good

 

294

00:08:16,896 --> 00:08:17,697

when you finally meet.

 

295

00:08:17,697 --> 00:08:19,065

He's going to kick the crap out of you.

 

296

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Yeah, I know.

 

297

00:08:19,899 --> 00:08:21,300

He's not a big he.

 

298

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Huh? Is he big?

 

299

00:08:23,169 --> 00:08:24,437

He's a good size guy.

 

300

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He's. He's no little guy, actually.

 

301

00:08:26,706 --> 00:08:28,007

I bet you and him are right

 

302

00:08:28,007 --> 00:08:30,209

around the same size, same build.

 

303

00:08:30,209 --> 00:08:31,210

Actually, I think you and him

 

304

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be a good fight.

 

305

00:08:32,211 --> 00:08:34,213

Pretty masculine guy, then, huh?

 

306

00:08:34,213 --> 00:08:36,048

But he's got some anger, you know?

 

307

00:08:36,048 --> 00:08:37,650

Pete's got some anger in him, too.

 

308

00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:39,151

I know you do, too.

 

309

00:08:39,151 --> 00:08:40,353

And that could be a pretty good fight.

 

310

00:08:40,353 --> 00:08:41,554

That was like a good fight.

 

311

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Yeah, it sounds like.

 

312

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It actually

 

313

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sounds like a pretty good fight.

 

314

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If you watch it.

 

315

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He's a hockey player, too, so.

 

316

00:08:48,094 --> 00:08:49,095

Got something on me then.

 

317

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He's got. Yeah, you know

 

318

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he's got that.

 

319

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But man every time I talk to him,

 

320

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he's like, Wow,

 

321

00:08:55,201 --> 00:08:56,636

Wayne is awfully mean to you.

 

322

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I'm like, Nah, I don't really think so.

 

323

00:08:59,672 --> 00:09:00,039

Yeah.

 

324

00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:02,241

And I can see it in his eyes

 

325

00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:05,011

when he says that like, Yeah,

 

326

00:09:05,011 --> 00:09:07,046

yeah, no, he's a little older than me.

 

327

00:09:07,046 --> 00:09:07,680

So, you know, it's

 

328

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like an older brother thing.

 

329

00:09:08,881 --> 00:09:10,082

Well, that's on my side then.

 

330

00:09:10,082 --> 00:09:11,250

That's good.

 

331

00:09:12,418 --> 00:09:14,353

Actually. Right.

 

332

00:09:14,353 --> 00:09:15,655

What do you. 62.

 

333

00:09:15,655 --> 00:09:18,024

Yeah, a 61.

 

334

00:09:18,024 --> 00:09:20,192

I beat up guys twice his age.

 

335

00:09:20,192 --> 00:09:20,593

Yeah.

 

336

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I bet you have at

 

337

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that.

 

338

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You have absolutely.

 

339

00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:28,234

All right.

 

340

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All right.

 

341

00:09:28,768 --> 00:09:30,603

So thinking outside the box

 

342

00:09:30,603 --> 00:09:32,738

for your business, what's my competition?

 

343

00:09:32,738 --> 00:09:34,473

Doing better than me.

 

344

00:09:34,473 --> 00:09:35,908

We're for all of that.

 

345

00:09:35,908 --> 00:09:36,175

Yeah.

 

346

00:09:36,175 --> 00:09:37,109

Oh, so

 

347

00:09:37,109 --> 00:09:39,145

I don't care what anybody else is doing.

 

348

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This is what I do. This is how I do it.

 

349

00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:43,883

But in today's society, I think this is

 

350

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definitely something

 

351

00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:46,652

you've got to look at if you want to be

 

352

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at the top of the heap,

 

353

00:09:49,622 --> 00:09:50,489

what's my competitor

 

354

00:09:50,489 --> 00:09:53,526

doing better than I'm doing?

 

355

00:09:53,526 --> 00:09:54,794

I think it's important

 

356

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to know

 

357

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what your competition is doing, but

 

358

00:09:57,964 --> 00:09:59,865

it's bad for setting strategy

 

359

00:09:59,865 --> 00:10:01,367

for your company.

 

360

00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:03,703

So I think it

 

361

00:10:03,703 --> 00:10:04,570

I think it is important

 

362

00:10:04,570 --> 00:10:06,205

to know what they're doing

 

363

00:10:06,405 --> 00:10:07,573

that's important.

 

364

00:10:07,573 --> 00:10:08,474

But I think you have to go

 

365

00:10:08,474 --> 00:10:09,508

with your strength.

 

366

00:10:09,508 --> 00:10:11,744

You know, I agree with you.

 

367

00:10:11,978 --> 00:10:12,511

Okay.

 

368

00:10:12,511 --> 00:10:13,145

I think you have to go

 

369

00:10:13,145 --> 00:10:13,746

with your strength.

 

370

00:10:13,746 --> 00:10:14,513

But it is.

 

371

00:10:14,513 --> 00:10:17,817

You stick with your strength, but

 

372

00:10:17,817 --> 00:10:18,784

you're not listening.

 

373

00:10:18,784 --> 00:10:19,385

You're just thinking

 

374

00:10:19,385 --> 00:10:20,820

of what you're going to say next.

 

375

00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:21,654

No, I got you.

 

376

00:10:21,654 --> 00:10:22,521

What's he doing?

 

377

00:10:22,521 --> 00:10:23,856

What are they doing?

 

378

00:10:23,856 --> 00:10:25,024

Better than I'm doing.

 

379

00:10:25,024 --> 00:10:26,025

Are they doing marketing

 

380

00:10:26,025 --> 00:10:27,059

better than I'm doing?

 

381

00:10:27,059 --> 00:10:28,561

Are they doing, you know, what?

 

382

00:10:28,561 --> 00:10:30,096

Are they doing better?

 

383

00:10:30,096 --> 00:10:31,030

And it's not that I'm going to

 

384

00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:33,299

set my strategy to it, but

 

385

00:10:35,434 --> 00:10:37,503

you don't want to be in the dark either.

 

386

00:10:37,503 --> 00:10:39,338

Yeah, I agree with that.

 

387

00:10:39,338 --> 00:10:40,506

I'm trying to think of.

 

388

00:10:40,506 --> 00:10:41,641

Oh, my God, he just

 

389

00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:43,142

he just agree with me.

 

390

00:10:43,142 --> 00:10:45,511

What are we 20 minutes into the show?

 

391

00:10:45,511 --> 00:10:46,212

Nice.

 

392

00:10:47,113 --> 00:10:48,914

I'm changing to think of that

 

393

00:10:48,914 --> 00:10:49,548

with my company.

 

394

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Still better.

 

395

00:10:53,019 --> 00:10:54,453

I think that's that's important.

 

396

00:10:54,453 --> 00:10:55,788

If you look around like you're

 

397

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the guys in your area or whatever

 

398

00:10:56,889 --> 00:10:58,224

and kind of look at their business model

 

399

00:10:58,224 --> 00:10:59,925

and whatever it is, it's social media.

 

400

00:10:59,925 --> 00:11:01,560

Is it marketing or whatever?

 

401

00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:02,995

Yeah, I agree with that.

 

402

00:11:02,995 --> 00:11:04,864

I think that's actually pretty smart

 

403

00:11:04,864 --> 00:11:05,297

because

 

404

00:11:05,931 --> 00:11:06,999

it gives you a chance to be honest

 

405

00:11:06,999 --> 00:11:09,035

about where you stand.

 

406

00:11:09,035 --> 00:11:10,169

Yeah, I remember.

 

407

00:11:10,169 --> 00:11:11,404

I don't know who ever told me,

 

408

00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:13,606

but if you don't know why,

 

409

00:11:13,606 --> 00:11:15,808

what your advantage is in business,

 

410

00:11:15,808 --> 00:11:17,109

then that's a serious problem.

 

411

00:11:17,109 --> 00:11:17,410

What?

 

412

00:11:17,410 --> 00:11:17,943

You need to know

 

413

00:11:17,943 --> 00:11:19,178

what your advantage is like.

 

414

00:11:19,178 --> 00:11:21,080

Why would someone, you, you

 

415

00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,249

so I think that's a good point.

 

416

00:11:23,249 --> 00:11:24,150

What do they call that?

 

417

00:11:25,584 --> 00:11:26,318

What do they call that?

 

418

00:11:26,318 --> 00:11:28,020

Social responsibility?

 

419

00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:28,988

Not like it

 

420

00:11:28,988 --> 00:11:30,956

can be a value proposition or your

 

421

00:11:30,956 --> 00:11:31,857

what is it?

 

422

00:11:32,291 --> 00:11:34,193

I'm trying to think of CSR.

 

423

00:11:34,193 --> 00:11:35,961

What's a corporate, corporate.

 

424

00:11:35,961 --> 00:11:37,530

Corporate social responsibility?

 

425

00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:39,432

Corporate social responsibility.

 

426

00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:41,567

That would be something that

 

427

00:11:41,567 --> 00:11:43,869

if you're a competitor, let's say

 

428

00:11:43,869 --> 00:11:44,970

you and your competitor,

 

429

00:11:44,970 --> 00:11:47,239

you both do fantastic work.

 

430

00:11:47,239 --> 00:11:48,240

But the big difference

 

431

00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,076

is, is he's involved with the community

 

432

00:11:50,076 --> 00:11:51,277

and you're not

 

433

00:11:51,277 --> 00:11:52,178

you know,

 

434

00:11:52,178 --> 00:11:52,912

that's something

 

435

00:11:52,912 --> 00:11:54,380

I'm going to take a look at and say, hey,

 

436

00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:55,648

that's what

 

437

00:11:55,648 --> 00:11:56,482

my competition

 

438

00:11:56,482 --> 00:11:58,751

is doing a little bit better.

 

439

00:11:58,951 --> 00:12:01,153

And, you know, this was years ago.

 

440

00:12:01,187 --> 00:12:01,954

This would be nothing

 

441

00:12:01,954 --> 00:12:02,722

like who would care.

 

442

00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:04,657

You're in business during the year.

 

443

00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:05,691

Exactly.

 

444

00:12:05,691 --> 00:12:08,461

But remember when we had Grayson deal on

 

445

00:12:09,895 --> 00:12:11,497

and they plant a tree

 

446

00:12:11,497 --> 00:12:12,798

for every every floor

 

447

00:12:12,798 --> 00:12:14,567

that they do for somebody. Right.

 

448

00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:15,167

You know what I mean?

 

449

00:12:15,167 --> 00:12:16,168

I think messages like

 

450

00:12:16,168 --> 00:12:17,103

that are very important.

 

451

00:12:17,103 --> 00:12:19,004

Now, Jason Carter

 

452

00:12:19,004 --> 00:12:19,939

up there in

 

453

00:12:19,939 --> 00:12:22,141

Michigan does a lot of stuff for

 

454

00:12:22,141 --> 00:12:25,077

for for the St Jude's or some cancer,

 

455

00:12:25,311 --> 00:12:26,712

something to do with cancer,

 

456

00:12:26,712 --> 00:12:28,414

breast cancer and what have you.

 

457

00:12:28,414 --> 00:12:29,648

So I think the.

 

458

00:12:29,648 --> 00:12:30,950

Criticism, Chris, is,

 

459

00:12:30,950 --> 00:12:33,085

is another guy he's all over

 

460

00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:35,221

a great example of

 

461

00:12:35,221 --> 00:12:36,956

who's out there working the community

 

462

00:12:36,956 --> 00:12:38,390

and yeah,

 

463

00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:40,726

you know, who knows him and what.

 

464

00:12:40,726 --> 00:12:42,061

Each of these people would do it

 

465

00:12:42,061 --> 00:12:44,296

on their own, without, with it, whatever.

 

466

00:12:44,296 --> 00:12:46,866

But but it's part of his life.

 

467

00:12:46,866 --> 00:12:48,200

It's part of who he is.

 

468

00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,702

And I think it's important

 

469

00:12:49,702 --> 00:12:51,070

to put that out there.

 

470

00:12:51,070 --> 00:12:52,004

And I agree with that.

 

471

00:12:52,004 --> 00:12:53,672

It didn't used to be years ago.

 

472

00:12:53,672 --> 00:12:54,340

No one would care.

 

473

00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:56,041

But I think now

 

474

00:12:56,041 --> 00:12:57,143

you have to have a story

 

475

00:12:57,143 --> 00:12:58,711

or people love a story anyhow.

 

476

00:12:58,711 --> 00:12:59,078

That's why

 

477

00:12:59,078 --> 00:13:00,479

everybody's on TikTok all the time,

 

478

00:13:00,479 --> 00:13:01,914

watching all these videos, whatever.

 

479

00:13:01,914 --> 00:13:03,816

They want to connect with something.

 

480

00:13:03,816 --> 00:13:05,551

And I think if you're just a,

 

481

00:13:05,551 --> 00:13:06,051

you know,

 

482

00:13:06,051 --> 00:13:07,520

a corporate like a name or whatever

 

483

00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,255

with not a lot behind it,

 

484

00:13:09,255 --> 00:13:11,023

I think that's something to

 

485

00:13:11,023 --> 00:13:13,325

maybe maybe have a look at that.

 

486

00:13:13,325 --> 00:13:14,193

Definitely.

 

487

00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:15,995

Go ahead.

 

488

00:13:16,061 --> 00:13:17,163

I wasn't that way.

 

489

00:13:17,163 --> 00:13:18,130

Yeah, we didn't do that.

 

490

00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:19,465

I didn't I wasn't that way.

 

491

00:13:19,465 --> 00:13:21,767

I wasn't touchy feely at all.

 

492

00:13:21,767 --> 00:13:24,236

And it was probably a mistake.

 

493

00:13:24,236 --> 00:13:25,371

And I don't don't think

 

494

00:13:25,371 --> 00:13:26,772

I would do business like that anymore.

 

495

00:13:26,772 --> 00:13:28,374

I think you have to find a way

 

496

00:13:28,374 --> 00:13:28,774

to connect

 

497

00:13:28,774 --> 00:13:30,242

with people a little bit differently.

 

498

00:13:30,242 --> 00:13:32,011

That was a different time, though.

 

499

00:13:32,011 --> 00:13:34,113

That's what I. Think it was.

 

500

00:13:34,113 --> 00:13:34,513

Yeah.

 

501

00:13:34,513 --> 00:13:36,148

And I don't want to sound

 

502

00:13:36,148 --> 00:13:39,185

like the old guy cop out, but

 

503

00:13:39,185 --> 00:13:41,120

back in the eighties and nineties,

 

504

00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,621

people just weren't,

 

505

00:13:42,621 --> 00:13:44,924

you know, people just weren't doing that.

 

506

00:13:44,924 --> 00:13:45,391

I wonder what

 

507

00:13:45,391 --> 00:13:46,425

John Wayne would have been like

 

508

00:13:46,425 --> 00:13:49,161

if he was alive in this era.

 

509

00:13:49,161 --> 00:13:51,630

If he wouldn't have been like John Wayne.

 

510

00:13:51,697 --> 00:13:52,298

Right.

 

511

00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:52,798

You know,

 

512

00:13:52,798 --> 00:13:54,266

he wouldn't have been like John.

 

513

00:13:54,266 --> 00:13:56,936

No, thank God he isn't.

 

514

00:13:56,936 --> 00:13:57,937

Yeah.

 

515

00:13:57,937 --> 00:13:59,672

Well, that kind of leads us

 

516

00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:01,740

right into the next bullet.

 

517

00:14:01,740 --> 00:14:03,876

What makes you unique?

 

518

00:14:04,543 --> 00:14:06,312

Well, you were talking about the story.

 

519

00:14:06,312 --> 00:14:09,048

What's your story? Absolutely.

 

520

00:14:09,048 --> 00:14:10,983

People want to hear a story.

 

521

00:14:10,983 --> 00:14:12,151

People definitely want to hear

 

522

00:14:12,151 --> 00:14:13,252

some kind of story.

 

523

00:14:13,252 --> 00:14:14,854

So I think that's something

 

524

00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:17,056

that you really need to focus. Focus on.

 

525

00:14:18,290 --> 00:14:19,892

Or focus on

 

526

00:14:20,192 --> 00:14:21,627

or. Or focus.

 

527

00:14:21,627 --> 00:14:22,695

Yeah, focus.

 

528

00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:24,897

It's a really quick way to say focus.

 

529

00:14:25,197 --> 00:14:25,831

Yeah, it is.

 

530

00:14:25,831 --> 00:14:26,932

Or folk guy.

 

531

00:14:26,932 --> 00:14:29,768

I'm going to try and get that going.

 

532

00:14:29,768 --> 00:14:30,803

That's Alex.

 

533

00:14:30,803 --> 00:14:32,938

I like it. Yeah. Yeah.

 

534

00:14:34,173 --> 00:14:35,241

You know something?

 

535

00:14:35,241 --> 00:14:36,575

So you could say, well,

 

536

00:14:36,575 --> 00:14:38,410

what difference would making a book?

 

537

00:14:38,410 --> 00:14:43,015

I might add my schedule's booked right?

 

538

00:14:43,015 --> 00:14:43,449

Almost.

 

539

00:14:43,449 --> 00:14:44,416

It's not like a big deal

 

540

00:14:44,416 --> 00:14:45,184

to be booked anymore

 

541

00:14:45,184 --> 00:14:46,185

for a lot of people because,

 

542

00:14:46,185 --> 00:14:47,086

you know, everybody's.

 

543

00:14:47,086 --> 00:14:48,120

But but how would they

 

544

00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,421

what would you do

 

545

00:14:49,421 --> 00:14:51,457

to get booked at the various high

 

546

00:14:51,457 --> 00:14:53,492

end of what people will pay?

 

547

00:14:53,993 --> 00:14:56,428

I think here's where that comes in.

 

548

00:14:56,428 --> 00:14:58,764

In a way, I think it's so important.

 

549

00:14:59,798 --> 00:15:01,000

Again, I just keep going back to

 

550

00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:01,800

everything is like

 

551

00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:02,968

everybody wants a personal touch.

 

552

00:15:02,968 --> 00:15:04,169

Now we had

 

553

00:15:05,571 --> 00:15:07,039

Chris on

 

554

00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:08,407

last week

 

555

00:15:08,407 --> 00:15:10,509

talking about charging for estimates

 

556

00:15:10,509 --> 00:15:11,877

and how important it is

 

557

00:15:11,877 --> 00:15:13,979

to give them a customer experience.

 

558

00:15:13,979 --> 00:15:14,880

And I tell you,

 

559

00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,849

I could not agree more in this.

 

560

00:15:16,849 --> 00:15:17,816

In this.

 

561

00:15:17,850 --> 00:15:18,751

It's just a different world

 

562

00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:19,985

now where everybody so busy

 

563

00:15:19,985 --> 00:15:21,120

and whatever

 

564

00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,489

and and customer service is so bad

 

565

00:15:24,089 --> 00:15:26,825

in a lot of cases that

 

566

00:15:26,825 --> 00:15:28,127

to have that

 

567

00:15:28,127 --> 00:15:28,961

personal touch

 

568

00:15:28,961 --> 00:15:30,396

and experience and be unique

 

569

00:15:30,396 --> 00:15:30,863

and whatever,

 

570

00:15:30,863 --> 00:15:33,332

I think all that adds to it any more.

 

571

00:15:33,332 --> 00:15:34,767

And it didn't used to matter years ago.

 

572

00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:35,834

So if you're an old school floor

 

573

00:15:35,834 --> 00:15:36,969

guy, for instance,

 

574

00:15:36,969 --> 00:15:38,304

I think it might be tougher for them

 

575

00:15:38,304 --> 00:15:40,439

to change than than younger people.

 

576

00:15:40,439 --> 00:15:41,540

Coming up.

 

577

00:15:41,540 --> 00:15:43,442

But it it's definitely,

 

578

00:15:43,442 --> 00:15:44,910

you know, a different climate right now.

 

579

00:15:44,910 --> 00:15:45,945

And I think it's important.

 

580

00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:47,646

And I actually you know what?

 

581

00:15:47,646 --> 00:15:49,715

I actually think it makes business

 

582

00:15:50,082 --> 00:15:51,650

more fun anyhow.

 

583

00:15:51,650 --> 00:15:53,986

You know what I mean? Yeah.

 

584

00:15:53,986 --> 00:15:55,187

Yeah, it's not

 

585

00:15:55,187 --> 00:15:55,988

that's not going to kill,

 

586

00:15:55,988 --> 00:15:58,090

you know, have some fun

 

587

00:15:58,090 --> 00:15:59,758

during all of this.

 

588

00:15:59,758 --> 00:16:01,894

And you add more like a boutique

 

589

00:16:01,894 --> 00:16:02,528

feel to it.

 

590

00:16:02,528 --> 00:16:03,295

Like, like, look,

 

591

00:16:03,295 --> 00:16:04,797

look how impersonal Home Depot is.

 

592

00:16:04,797 --> 00:16:05,297

And Lowe's

 

593

00:16:07,266 --> 00:16:09,301

compared to what you can offer them.

 

594

00:16:09,301 --> 00:16:09,902

You know what I mean?

 

595

00:16:09,902 --> 00:16:11,403

I mean, it's it's huge.

 

596

00:16:11,403 --> 00:16:12,404

And you have to sell that.

 

597

00:16:12,404 --> 00:16:13,072

And dammit,

 

598

00:16:13,072 --> 00:16:14,440

you should be paid for it, too.

 

599

00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,842

So.

 

600

00:16:16,842 --> 00:16:18,110

Absolutely.

 

601

00:16:18,610 --> 00:16:19,044

All right.

 

602

00:16:19,044 --> 00:16:19,945

Next bullet,

 

603

00:16:19,945 --> 00:16:22,715

what problems do we solve better?

 

604

00:16:22,715 --> 00:16:23,882

And as soon as I said

 

605

00:16:23,882 --> 00:16:24,817

that, all I started

 

606

00:16:24,817 --> 00:16:28,854

thinking about was Sprague Light.

 

607

00:16:28,854 --> 00:16:30,055

Mm hmm.

 

608

00:16:30,055 --> 00:16:30,422

I mean,

 

609

00:16:30,422 --> 00:16:31,623

think of all the stuff

 

610

00:16:31,623 --> 00:16:33,525

that he just walked right into.

 

611

00:16:33,525 --> 00:16:34,259

Yeah.

 

612

00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:35,761

You know, it's tough.

 

613

00:16:35,761 --> 00:16:37,963

That's over 200 years old.

 

614

00:16:37,963 --> 00:16:39,698

Nobody's ever seen it.

 

615

00:16:39,698 --> 00:16:41,500

It's probably amazing the stuff

 

616

00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:42,701

that he could go

 

617

00:16:42,701 --> 00:16:43,736

into of what he's seen

 

618

00:16:43,736 --> 00:16:45,771

that nobody has ever seen,

 

619

00:16:45,771 --> 00:16:47,373

just because of where he works

 

620

00:16:47,373 --> 00:16:48,640

and the age of the stuff

 

621

00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,042

that he works on.

 

622

00:16:50,042 --> 00:16:51,877

So talk about being a,

 

623

00:16:51,877 --> 00:16:53,779

you know, master problem solver.

 

624

00:16:56,181 --> 00:16:57,082

Big time

 

625

00:16:57,082 --> 00:16:59,151

and obviously he's one of the best.

 

626

00:17:00,986 --> 00:17:02,121

What do we

 

627

00:17:02,121 --> 00:17:04,690

what problems do we solve better.

 

628

00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:06,925

I listen to this.

 

629

00:17:06,925 --> 00:17:10,796

Let's do a full is Highlander flaws.

 

630

00:17:10,796 --> 00:17:12,531

What did you guys do that

 

631

00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:16,802

you solved better?

 

632

00:17:16,802 --> 00:17:18,103

I don't know.

 

633

00:17:18,103 --> 00:17:19,805

I mean, I could tell you this.

 

634

00:17:19,805 --> 00:17:20,372

Yeah?

 

635

00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:21,840

If I told you

 

636

00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:22,908

the job was going to start

 

637

00:17:22,908 --> 00:17:23,642

on a certain date,

 

638

00:17:23,642 --> 00:17:27,212

it was going to end on a certain date.

 

639

00:17:27,212 --> 00:17:30,082

Unless there's a nuclear bomb in there,

 

640

00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:32,117

that's what's going to happen.

 

641

00:17:32,117 --> 00:17:33,886

I mean, we were 100%

 

642

00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:35,654

started on time and finish on time.

 

643

00:17:35,654 --> 00:17:37,689

I don't care what it takes.

 

644

00:17:38,857 --> 00:17:40,259

And I could probably count on one hand

 

645

00:17:40,259 --> 00:17:41,693

in all my career that we didn't

 

646

00:17:41,693 --> 00:17:42,961

weren't able to do that.

 

647

00:17:42,961 --> 00:17:45,564

And you great personal sacrifice to me

 

648

00:17:46,131 --> 00:17:46,865

maybe too much,

 

649

00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:49,935

you know, but

 

650

00:17:52,471 --> 00:17:53,205

when you talk

 

651

00:17:53,205 --> 00:17:55,107

about what we can solve better,

 

652

00:17:55,107 --> 00:17:56,642

I remember someone saying,

 

653

00:17:56,642 --> 00:17:56,975

you know,

 

654

00:17:56,975 --> 00:17:58,544

you got to know

 

655

00:17:58,544 --> 00:17:59,678

when you're going into business.

 

656

00:17:59,678 --> 00:18:02,414

What what you have over everybody else,

 

657

00:18:02,414 --> 00:18:03,382

what is your advantage.

 

658

00:18:03,382 --> 00:18:04,383

And I keep going back to that

 

659

00:18:04,383 --> 00:18:05,617

because I think it's so true.

 

660

00:18:05,617 --> 00:18:07,953

If you try to advertise to the masses

 

661

00:18:07,953 --> 00:18:09,888

anymore, it's not nearly as effective.

 

662

00:18:09,888 --> 00:18:11,757

If you can find a niche group

 

663

00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:13,659

to to appeal to it,

 

664

00:18:13,659 --> 00:18:15,360

maybe it's moms with children.

 

665

00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:17,763

I mean, maybe that's your niche.

 

666

00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:19,198

Maybe because,

 

667

00:18:19,198 --> 00:18:19,565

you know,

 

668

00:18:19,565 --> 00:18:20,199

you certain

 

669

00:18:20,199 --> 00:18:22,167

finishes and in products or whatever,

 

670

00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:23,836

the velocity or whatever,

 

671

00:18:23,836 --> 00:18:24,703

maybe that's your niche.

 

672

00:18:24,703 --> 00:18:26,472

And I know people who have done that

 

673

00:18:26,472 --> 00:18:28,774

that said, look, are our niches.

 

674

00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:29,241

We're going to be

 

675

00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:30,242

environmentally friendly.

 

676

00:18:30,242 --> 00:18:31,310

We're the environmentally

 

677

00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:33,846

friendly company and that's is our niche.

 

678

00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:35,414

And yeah, they'll pick up business

 

679

00:18:35,414 --> 00:18:36,048

from other people

 

680

00:18:36,048 --> 00:18:37,516

who don't care about that.

 

681

00:18:37,516 --> 00:18:38,317

They just know that they have

 

682

00:18:38,317 --> 00:18:39,651

a good reputation,

 

683

00:18:39,651 --> 00:18:40,619

but their niche is going

 

684

00:18:40,619 --> 00:18:41,053

after this

 

685

00:18:41,053 --> 00:18:43,388

specific slice of pie customer.

 

686

00:18:43,388 --> 00:18:46,125

So, you know, it was interesting

 

687

00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:47,326

when I found that out that you're not

 

688

00:18:47,326 --> 00:18:48,961

when you're advertised to be effective,

 

689

00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:49,595

you don't

 

690

00:18:49,695 --> 00:18:50,929

you can't just blast out

 

691

00:18:50,929 --> 00:18:52,297

everything to everybody you

 

692

00:18:52,297 --> 00:18:54,399

then you're not important to anybody.

 

693

00:18:54,666 --> 00:18:56,702

You have to find out where you fit in.

 

694

00:18:56,702 --> 00:19:00,706

I think that's that's very smart.

 

695

00:19:00,706 --> 00:19:01,740

You think that's very smart

 

696

00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:03,075

because it just rolled

 

697

00:19:03,075 --> 00:19:05,410

right off your tongue? Yes.

 

698

00:19:05,410 --> 00:19:06,011

Yeah.

 

699

00:19:06,044 --> 00:19:06,812

I guess what

 

700

00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:07,179

I said

 

701

00:19:07,179 --> 00:19:08,046

what I meant was

 

702

00:19:08,046 --> 00:19:09,915

I think what I said was very smart.

 

703

00:19:09,915 --> 00:19:11,617

Yeah, that's what I meant.

 

704

00:19:11,617 --> 00:19:13,318

Yeah, nothing but nuggets.

 

705

00:19:13,318 --> 00:19:13,685

Thank you.

 

706

00:19:13,685 --> 00:19:14,553

You're just spewing

 

707

00:19:14,553 --> 00:19:15,954

nuggets all day today, huh?

 

708

00:19:15,954 --> 00:19:17,456

You know, in a way, because we're.

 

709

00:19:17,456 --> 00:19:18,724

We're doing this podcast

 

710

00:19:18,724 --> 00:19:19,525

for the first time

 

711

00:19:19,525 --> 00:19:20,993

ever in the middle of the day.

 

712

00:19:22,227 --> 00:19:25,097

And the reason that you're not beat down.

 

713

00:19:25,531 --> 00:19:26,298

Yes. Yeah.

 

714

00:19:26,298 --> 00:19:27,032

You know.

 

715

00:19:27,266 --> 00:19:31,170

Energy almost too much energy.

 

716

00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,172

The life hasn't beat the crap out of you,

 

717

00:19:33,205 --> 00:19:35,641

usually on our Friday afternoon podcast.

 

718

00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:40,445

Mm hmm.

 

719

00:19:40,445 --> 00:19:43,649

What problems do we solve better?

 

720

00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:44,816

Am I staying current

 

721

00:19:44,816 --> 00:19:47,085

with the latest trends?

 

722

00:19:47,085 --> 00:19:48,320

I think that's.

 

723

00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,322

That's kind of a no brainer.

 

724

00:19:50,322 --> 00:19:51,390

I say it's a no brainer,

 

725

00:19:51,390 --> 00:19:53,992

but then I look at, you know, sometimes

 

726

00:19:53,992 --> 00:19:57,062

I run into those people that are

 

727

00:19:57,062 --> 00:19:59,097

still 40, 80 sat in politics.

 

728

00:19:59,097 --> 00:20:00,332

Nothing wrong with that.

 

729

00:20:00,332 --> 00:20:01,667

But, you know,

 

730

00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:03,535

if you want to start to move the needle

 

731

00:20:03,535 --> 00:20:05,604

trends, trends and fads

 

732

00:20:05,604 --> 00:20:07,573

are where the money is.

 

733

00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:08,574

So this is right down

 

734

00:20:08,574 --> 00:20:11,076

your avenue to Europe is because.

 

735

00:20:11,276 --> 00:20:12,844

I can't wait to hear this.

 

736

00:20:12,844 --> 00:20:14,346

Okay. Say, if I was.

 

737

00:20:14,346 --> 00:20:15,414

Stay tuned.

 

738

00:20:15,414 --> 00:20:17,749

Okay. You like this a lot. Okay. Okay.

 

739

00:20:18,784 --> 00:20:19,418

This all

 

740

00:20:19,418 --> 00:20:21,920

also applies to training.

 

741

00:20:22,387 --> 00:20:23,021

Do you

 

742

00:20:23,021 --> 00:20:25,424

have you seen the new the new platinum?

 

743

00:20:25,591 --> 00:20:28,660

This diamond standing plates that we have

 

744

00:20:29,461 --> 00:20:30,629

that can save you money

 

745

00:20:30,629 --> 00:20:31,997

on these type of floors?

 

746

00:20:31,997 --> 00:20:33,198

Have you seen the new products

 

747

00:20:33,198 --> 00:20:33,632

that are out there

 

748

00:20:33,632 --> 00:20:34,466

that can make you money?

 

749

00:20:34,466 --> 00:20:35,601

Where did that answer

 

750

00:20:35,601 --> 00:20:38,070

the trends that are out there today?

 

751

00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:39,171

I was there, Rob.

 

752

00:20:39,171 --> 00:20:41,974

Oh, boy, boy.

 

753

00:20:42,174 --> 00:20:43,775

I slapped myself on that one.

 

754

00:20:43,775 --> 00:20:44,643

Yeah, you should.

 

755

00:20:44,643 --> 00:20:46,645

Yeah that that was a yeah.

 

756

00:20:47,112 --> 00:20:48,513

Yeah. So I have to myself.

 

757

00:20:48,513 --> 00:20:48,914

You know what,

 

758

00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:50,816

I see the problem when we do this

 

759

00:20:50,816 --> 00:20:51,516

during the middle of the day,

 

760

00:20:51,516 --> 00:20:54,653

my brain is so strong,

 

761

00:20:54,653 --> 00:20:57,322

you know, and it is so fast

 

762

00:20:57,856 --> 00:20:58,523

this time of day.

 

763

00:20:58,523 --> 00:20:59,224

And I think yours

 

764

00:20:59,224 --> 00:21:01,059

is like the same all day long.

 

765

00:21:01,059 --> 00:21:01,693

All day.

 

766

00:21:01,693 --> 00:21:03,695

Every day. Yes, I think. Exactly.

 

767

00:21:03,695 --> 00:21:03,962

Yeah.

 

768

00:21:03,962 --> 00:21:04,796

The end of the day, when

 

769

00:21:04,796 --> 00:21:06,231

my brain power comes down,

 

770

00:21:07,666 --> 00:21:09,001

we're more similar.

 

771

00:21:09,001 --> 00:21:10,936

So we got to start doing these Thursday.

 

772

00:21:10,936 --> 00:21:11,803

Friday afternoon.

 

773

00:21:11,803 --> 00:21:13,071

Stay there. Evening.

 

774

00:21:13,071 --> 00:21:15,540

Not not Monday morning. Monday.

 

775

00:21:15,540 --> 00:21:16,808

Yeah, yeah.

 

776

00:21:16,808 --> 00:21:18,877

You're just all full of it today.

 

777

00:21:18,877 --> 00:21:20,946

Too much power my brain just had.

 

778

00:21:21,246 --> 00:21:22,214

They this

 

779

00:21:22,214 --> 00:21:23,315

keep in the back of your head

 

780

00:21:23,315 --> 00:21:25,784

every every bad thing you say.

 

781

00:21:25,984 --> 00:21:27,452

Chairman hears it.

 

782

00:21:27,452 --> 00:21:29,087

He hears every one of them

 

783

00:21:29,087 --> 00:21:31,023

and it's a memory these this.

 

784

00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:32,758

Is a sermon or Pete.

 

785

00:21:32,758 --> 00:21:33,992

Sherman picture.

 

786

00:21:33,992 --> 00:21:35,560

How many guys I got to fight.

 

787

00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,695

Just they

 

788

00:21:37,696 --> 00:21:38,530

just have.

 

789

00:21:39,498 --> 00:21:39,865

You know.

 

790

00:21:39,865 --> 00:21:41,333

Give me some warning, though, when you

 

791

00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:43,201

when you know that he's coming.

 

792

00:21:43,201 --> 00:21:44,703

No, not at all.

 

793

00:21:44,703 --> 00:21:46,938

I'm just to be assured.

 

794

00:21:46,938 --> 00:21:47,873

Keep the crap out of you.

 

795

00:21:47,873 --> 00:21:49,074

That's what I think was.

 

796

00:21:49,074 --> 00:21:49,708

Yeah.

 

797

00:21:49,708 --> 00:21:50,876

I'll be at the end of the day one day

 

798

00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:51,877

and someone will concoct me.

 

799

00:21:51,877 --> 00:21:53,512

It'll be. And you're going to know.

 

800

00:21:53,512 --> 00:21:54,279

Yeah. Hey.

 

801

00:21:54,279 --> 00:21:54,613

All right.

 

802

00:21:54,613 --> 00:21:55,580

He ain't going to run either.

 

803

00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:56,915

He'll stand right over you.

 

804

00:21:56,915 --> 00:21:58,183

That's a problem. I got a bad knee.

 

805

00:21:58,183 --> 00:21:59,217

I can't really run.

 

806

00:21:59,217 --> 00:22:04,456

I can't chase them.

 

807

00:22:04,456 --> 00:22:06,692

Yeah. Oh, okay.

 

808

00:22:07,492 --> 00:22:09,094

Uh, here. This one.

 

809

00:22:10,062 --> 00:22:11,797

How do we continue to meet clients?

 

810

00:22:11,797 --> 00:22:15,701

Current needs?

 

811

00:22:15,701 --> 00:22:16,735

Yeah.

 

812

00:22:17,436 --> 00:22:19,237

Back to the whole social media

 

813

00:22:19,237 --> 00:22:22,307

thing.

 

814

00:22:22,307 --> 00:22:24,509

I mean, so many people are going

 

815

00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:25,477

that way.

 

816

00:22:25,477 --> 00:22:27,946

You know, I look at it from

 

817

00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:29,281

the way you and I looked at it

 

818

00:22:29,281 --> 00:22:33,285

from when we were doing business.

 

819

00:22:33,285 --> 00:22:34,953

We did the tech talk show,

 

820

00:22:34,953 --> 00:22:37,889

first of was Facebook and then Instagram.

 

821

00:22:37,889 --> 00:22:39,091

Now it's tick tock.

 

822

00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:40,726

You need to really be keeping up

 

823

00:22:40,726 --> 00:22:41,960

on all that stuff.

 

824

00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,761

Well.

 

825

00:22:42,761 --> 00:22:46,031

The last job I did with my Uncle Stan, we

 

826

00:22:46,398 --> 00:22:48,700

I never forget he took the portable

 

827

00:22:49,167 --> 00:22:50,402

table, saw tennis table.

 

828

00:22:50,402 --> 00:22:52,170

So Mikey, at the time,

 

829

00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:55,006

he set it down on the living room rug

 

830

00:22:55,006 --> 00:22:58,009

and we started ripping boards.

 

831

00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:00,078

Can you imagine today

 

832

00:23:00,078 --> 00:23:02,080

going into somebody's house there?

 

833

00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,182

No.

 

834

00:23:04,182 --> 00:23:07,052

And running a table saw on a living room.

 

835

00:23:07,052 --> 00:23:09,087

Fuck floor rug.

 

836

00:23:09,087 --> 00:23:10,155

I said rug and floor.

 

837

00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:12,758

And I went and I combine the two

 

838

00:23:14,092 --> 00:23:14,426

but.

 

839

00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,661

It's a plug. Yeah.

 

840

00:23:16,661 --> 00:23:17,529

If you're

 

841

00:23:17,529 --> 00:23:18,864

your brain is faster

 

842

00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:21,066

than your mouth today. Yes.

 

843

00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:24,603

So you look again,

 

844

00:23:24,603 --> 00:23:25,404

I mean putting

 

845

00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:26,705

the piece of mind that you're using

 

846

00:23:26,705 --> 00:23:28,206

does containment systems

 

847

00:23:28,206 --> 00:23:29,341

and yet you doing all this

 

848

00:23:29,341 --> 00:23:31,410

and I would show them, man, I would

 

849

00:23:31,476 --> 00:23:32,677

I would

 

850

00:23:32,677 --> 00:23:33,345

I would turn him

 

851

00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:35,814

more into a salesman than ever before

 

852

00:23:35,814 --> 00:23:38,617

because I've realized

 

853

00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:40,552

I mean, I kind of knew it at the time

 

854

00:23:40,552 --> 00:23:41,453

when I was doing floors,

 

855

00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:43,855

but I realized much later, man

 

856

00:23:44,523 --> 00:23:46,291

to at the end of the year,

 

857

00:23:46,291 --> 00:23:47,192

when you balance the books

 

858

00:23:47,192 --> 00:23:47,793

at the end of the year,

 

859

00:23:47,793 --> 00:23:49,761

did we have a great year or a good year?

 

860

00:23:49,761 --> 00:23:51,963

We just OC end of year.

 

861

00:23:51,963 --> 00:23:54,332

The difference in being a sales guy

 

862

00:23:54,332 --> 00:23:55,333

at there and sell

 

863

00:23:55,333 --> 00:23:57,836

and that's not a negative connotation

 

864

00:23:57,836 --> 00:23:58,904

that you're selling your worth

 

865

00:23:58,904 --> 00:23:59,738

and your quality

 

866

00:23:59,738 --> 00:24:01,873

and what you add to the job

 

867

00:24:01,873 --> 00:24:03,842

I think is so important now

 

868

00:24:03,842 --> 00:24:06,011

because I want to now

 

869

00:24:06,011 --> 00:24:08,647

like I think we got the advantage now.

 

870

00:24:08,647 --> 00:24:10,415

You know, it's like

 

871

00:24:10,415 --> 00:24:11,616

like in, you know,

 

872

00:24:11,616 --> 00:24:13,618

people are not going back to work now

 

873

00:24:13,618 --> 00:24:14,886

and people have laid down

 

874

00:24:14,886 --> 00:24:16,121

and they're not working like they were.

 

875

00:24:16,121 --> 00:24:17,522

So, so,

 

876

00:24:17,589 --> 00:24:19,891

so the working for us has as an advantage

 

877

00:24:19,891 --> 00:24:21,126

over management.

 

878

00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:21,359

You know

 

879

00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,127

one day that table

 

880

00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,595

my turn and got help

 

881

00:24:23,595 --> 00:24:25,630

with when management finally gets back

 

882

00:24:26,364 --> 00:24:28,500

they were you know but

 

883

00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:30,869

but for the flooring contract

 

884

00:24:30,869 --> 00:24:31,837

was I feel like

 

885

00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:34,773

okay finally because I remember in 27

 

886

00:24:34,773 --> 00:24:35,874

I hope people never forget

 

887

00:24:35,874 --> 00:24:37,709

this I'll never forget this

 

888

00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:39,110

it was a lesson for me

 

889

00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:40,812

that these contractors

 

890

00:24:40,812 --> 00:24:41,246

I'm talking about,

 

891

00:24:41,246 --> 00:24:43,381

general contractors and homeowners,

 

892

00:24:43,381 --> 00:24:45,584

realized that things were slow

 

893

00:24:45,584 --> 00:24:47,085

and they were taking your bid.

 

894

00:24:47,085 --> 00:24:48,487

Four bucks a square foot.

 

895

00:24:48,487 --> 00:24:51,122

Now I can give you 275 a square foot.

 

896

00:24:51,923 --> 00:24:53,091

You know what I mean? Yeah.

 

897

00:24:53,091 --> 00:24:53,925

And when that when

 

898

00:24:53,925 --> 00:24:55,660

it was the other way around,

 

899

00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:57,696

they were shopping you hard.

 

900

00:24:57,696 --> 00:25:01,466

Okay, this is the other way around now.

 

901

00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:03,034

And so you want to make sure

 

902

00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:04,569

you get paid. You want to get in.

 

903

00:25:04,569 --> 00:25:06,037

I want to extract

 

904

00:25:06,037 --> 00:25:07,372

every dollar I can from that

 

905

00:25:07,372 --> 00:25:09,441

from that client. Okay.

 

906

00:25:09,441 --> 00:25:10,809

I know it's going to be worth it to them.

 

907

00:25:10,809 --> 00:25:11,376

I know.

 

908

00:25:11,376 --> 00:25:12,811

Even if they don't know

 

909

00:25:12,811 --> 00:25:13,411

the value,

 

910

00:25:13,411 --> 00:25:14,446

the long term value

 

911

00:25:14,446 --> 00:25:16,081

is going to be off the charts.

 

912

00:25:16,081 --> 00:25:18,717

So I have no no problem

 

913

00:25:18,717 --> 00:25:19,784

getting as much money

 

914

00:25:19,784 --> 00:25:20,218

as I can

 

915

00:25:20,218 --> 00:25:20,785

for that client

 

916

00:25:20,785 --> 00:25:22,587

and not feeling one bit guilty

 

917

00:25:22,587 --> 00:25:24,456

because I know the value.

 

918

00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:25,056

I've seen people

 

919

00:25:25,056 --> 00:25:26,491

if it's been $10,000 for an

 

920

00:25:26,491 --> 00:25:28,927

eight by ten area rug. So

 

921

00:25:30,061 --> 00:25:31,029

you know

 

922

00:25:31,263 --> 00:25:32,397

to me

 

923

00:25:32,397 --> 00:25:35,133

but if you cannot get that information

 

924

00:25:35,133 --> 00:25:36,968

I only tell you when I became a

 

925

00:25:36,968 --> 00:25:39,137

when I became a sales rep

 

926

00:25:40,005 --> 00:25:41,206

in the first year,

 

927

00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:42,774

maybe a year and a half or two years

 

928

00:25:42,774 --> 00:25:44,376

that I was a sales rep,

 

929

00:25:44,376 --> 00:25:46,278

I was very good at doing floors

 

930

00:25:46,278 --> 00:25:48,179

as most anybody listen, this podcast

 

931

00:25:48,179 --> 00:25:49,414

probably is,

 

932

00:25:49,781 --> 00:25:51,983

but I was not good at talking about how

 

933

00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:53,318

how to do the floors,

 

934

00:25:53,318 --> 00:25:53,852

you know what I mean?

 

935

00:25:53,852 --> 00:25:54,519

I was not

 

936

00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:56,221

I wasn't a great sales guy

 

937

00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:57,489

and I was standing next to a guy

 

938

00:25:57,489 --> 00:25:59,491

who didn't know nothing about floors.

 

939

00:25:59,491 --> 00:26:00,959

This is a different time.

 

940

00:26:00,959 --> 00:26:03,094

You know, it was different time.

 

941

00:26:03,094 --> 00:26:03,862

It was

 

942

00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:06,064

I didn't know anything about floors,

 

943

00:26:06,064 --> 00:26:08,133

but he was a great sales rep.

 

944

00:26:08,133 --> 00:26:09,000

So if you

 

945

00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,202

if you put both of us in a room together

 

946

00:26:11,202 --> 00:26:13,305

and he brought in civilians, people

 

947

00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:14,706

not in industry,

 

948

00:26:14,706 --> 00:26:17,842

and I talked about floors and finishes

 

949

00:26:17,842 --> 00:26:18,443

and stuff like that.

 

950

00:26:18,443 --> 00:26:19,544

And he spoke.

 

951

00:26:19,544 --> 00:26:20,312

At the end of the day,

 

952

00:26:20,312 --> 00:26:21,413

they would say

 

953

00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:22,013

that guy

 

954

00:26:22,013 --> 00:26:23,582

pointing to the other guy, not me, is

 

955

00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:24,215

the real problem.

 

956

00:26:25,383 --> 00:26:27,586

And what what a shame for me.

 

957

00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:29,254

What it was criminal

 

958

00:26:29,254 --> 00:26:30,922

because all the work I put in

 

959

00:26:30,922 --> 00:26:31,489

and all the hard

 

960

00:26:31,489 --> 00:26:32,123

work, blood, sweat

 

961

00:26:32,123 --> 00:26:33,692

and tears, this guy didn't,

 

962

00:26:33,692 --> 00:26:35,760

but he sounded better than me.

 

963

00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,562

And that was a very smart lessons

 

964

00:26:37,562 --> 00:26:38,997

and powerful lesson for me.

 

965

00:26:38,997 --> 00:26:41,433

So what I'm saying is for a floor guy

 

966

00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:43,134

bidding the job,

 

967

00:26:43,535 --> 00:26:44,035

if you

 

968

00:26:44,035 --> 00:26:44,970

if you go in there and say,

 

969

00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:46,171

we do three coats of this

 

970

00:26:46,171 --> 00:26:47,072

and we send it to this,

 

971

00:26:47,072 --> 00:26:47,839

whatever it is,

 

972

00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:48,840

it's four bucks or whatever

 

973

00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,475

it is, a square foot or five or whatever.

 

974

00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:51,543

Who cares?

 

975

00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:53,912

And, you know, upsell

 

976

00:26:53,912 --> 00:26:55,513

and add that personal touch or whatever,

 

977

00:26:55,513 --> 00:26:56,615

because at the end of the year,

 

978

00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,250

I keep going back to it's in my control

 

979

00:26:59,651 --> 00:27:01,119

to end up the year with.

 

980

00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,553

I'm just going

 

981

00:27:01,553 --> 00:27:02,687

through the numbers out there.

 

982

00:27:02,687 --> 00:27:03,221

I don't even want to

 

983

00:27:03,221 --> 00:27:04,255

throw numbers out there

 

984

00:27:04,255 --> 00:27:05,357

because everybody's different.

 

985

00:27:05,357 --> 00:27:06,725

I can end up with this amount

 

986

00:27:06,725 --> 00:27:07,726

at the end of year,

 

987

00:27:07,726 --> 00:27:09,661

or I could end up with 35% more

 

988

00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:10,629

at the end of the year

 

989

00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:12,097

because I took the time

 

990

00:27:12,097 --> 00:27:12,964

to do these things.

 

991

00:27:12,964 --> 00:27:13,999

By the way,

 

992

00:27:13,999 --> 00:27:15,233

these things that are not causing

 

993

00:27:15,233 --> 00:27:15,667

my knees

 

994

00:27:15,667 --> 00:27:17,636

to go bad, not causing my,

 

995

00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:19,537

you know, my my back to hurt.

 

996

00:27:19,537 --> 00:27:21,072

These are just just things

 

997

00:27:21,072 --> 00:27:23,074

that I would need to teach myself

 

998

00:27:23,074 --> 00:27:26,745

to, to, to, to, to better the business.

 

999

00:27:26,745 --> 00:27:27,712

And for this old guy

 

1000

00:27:27,712 --> 00:27:29,881

that's going to be 75 years old

 

1001

00:27:29,881 --> 00:27:30,915

one day and, you know,

 

1002

00:27:30,915 --> 00:27:31,850

you got to think about they're guy

 

1003

00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:33,018

and take care of that guy.

 

1004

00:27:33,018 --> 00:27:34,252

So I like this

 

1005

00:27:34,252 --> 00:27:36,388

this topic of thinking outside the box.

 

1006

00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:37,722

Everybody says that

 

1007

00:27:37,722 --> 00:27:38,723

thinking outside the box,

 

1008

00:27:38,723 --> 00:27:40,558

it become cliche now.

 

1009

00:27:40,558 --> 00:27:42,761

But I really think that

 

1010

00:27:42,761 --> 00:27:44,596

if you take the time to do this

 

1011

00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:45,330

and what it could mean

 

1012

00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:48,033

at the end of the end of the year

 

1013

00:27:48,033 --> 00:27:49,100

and extrapolate that

 

1014

00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:50,101

to how many years do

 

1015

00:27:50,101 --> 00:27:52,170

I have left in this trade,

 

1016

00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:54,773

I think it adds up to a tremendous amount

 

1017

00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:57,042

and you and I talked about this

 

1018

00:27:57,042 --> 00:27:57,742

and for

 

1019

00:27:58,143 --> 00:27:59,144

some of the reason we're passionate

 

1020

00:27:59,144 --> 00:28:01,012

about doing this podcast, really

 

1021

00:28:01,012 --> 00:28:02,280

in the end of the day,

 

1022

00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,648

is that we've both been there,

 

1023

00:28:03,648 --> 00:28:04,716

we both made mistakes.

 

1024

00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:07,052

We know how freaking hard this job is.

 

1025

00:28:07,052 --> 00:28:09,054

And we want to see people be successful.

 

1026

00:28:09,721 --> 00:28:10,655

And and

 

1027

00:28:10,655 --> 00:28:12,257

and to, you know,

 

1028

00:28:12,257 --> 00:28:12,857

we talked about it

 

1029

00:28:12,857 --> 00:28:14,492

before you get into that learning curve

 

1030

00:28:14,492 --> 00:28:14,893

where you're making

 

1031

00:28:14,893 --> 00:28:16,861

the most possible money in your career,

 

1032

00:28:16,861 --> 00:28:19,064

get there quicker and stay there longer.

 

1033

00:28:19,397 --> 00:28:20,331

And dammit, I'm

 

1034

00:28:20,331 --> 00:28:21,433

going to I'm going to say it.

 

1035

00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:23,935

The the diamond sanding plates

 

1036

00:28:25,737 --> 00:28:27,839

is one of those tools that

 

1037

00:28:29,007 --> 00:28:30,341

less aggravation, less hard

 

1038

00:28:30,341 --> 00:28:31,576

work on your hands and knees

 

1039

00:28:31,576 --> 00:28:32,444

and what have you,

 

1040

00:28:32,444 --> 00:28:34,179

and then just a cleaner job

 

1041

00:28:34,179 --> 00:28:35,447

and and but being able

 

1042

00:28:35,447 --> 00:28:36,781

to also it's important

 

1043

00:28:36,781 --> 00:28:38,183

to have the technology,

 

1044

00:28:38,183 --> 00:28:40,018

but to also be able to to relate it

 

1045

00:28:40,018 --> 00:28:40,351

to the

 

1046

00:28:40,351 --> 00:28:41,052

to the clients

 

1047

00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:44,389

and the value that you're adding.

 

1048

00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:45,490

I look back at

 

1049

00:28:45,490 --> 00:28:47,692

I thought when I was doing estimates,

 

1050

00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:48,960

I thought I was a good salesman.

 

1051

00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,196

I had a great batting average.

 

1052

00:28:51,196 --> 00:28:54,499

But the mistake that I made,

 

1053

00:28:54,499 --> 00:28:56,468

especially after meeting

 

1054

00:28:56,468 --> 00:28:58,203

and talking with everybody that we have

 

1055

00:28:58,203 --> 00:28:59,938

since we've been doing this show,

 

1056

00:28:59,938 --> 00:29:01,973

doing the schools and everything,

 

1057

00:29:01,973 --> 00:29:03,575

and I just scratched the surface.

 

1058

00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:05,343

I got a good price.

 

1059

00:29:05,343 --> 00:29:07,612

I didn't get a great price. Yes.

 

1060

00:29:07,712 --> 00:29:11,382

And I could have got a great price

 

1061

00:29:11,983 --> 00:29:13,718

if I had worked the sale

 

1062

00:29:13,718 --> 00:29:15,487

a little bit better.

 

1063

00:29:15,487 --> 00:29:16,254

You know, and.

 

1064

00:29:16,254 --> 00:29:16,855

Like I said,

 

1065

00:29:16,855 --> 00:29:18,089

I was a pretty good salesman.

 

1066

00:29:18,089 --> 00:29:20,525

I had a great batting average, you know.

 

1067

00:29:20,525 --> 00:29:21,326

And man,

 

1068

00:29:21,326 --> 00:29:23,762

if I had just thought

 

1069

00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:26,064

that's really up that price but really up

 

1070

00:29:26,064 --> 00:29:27,632

my sales game too,

 

1071

00:29:27,632 --> 00:29:29,334

I think that's a no brainer.

 

1072

00:29:29,334 --> 00:29:29,834

Okay.

 

1073

00:29:29,834 --> 00:29:30,735

I thought you

 

1074

00:29:30,735 --> 00:29:32,137

what you said was so important

 

1075

00:29:32,137 --> 00:29:33,505

and I couldn't agree with you more.

 

1076

00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,040

Sometimes

 

1077

00:29:37,308 --> 00:29:37,575

I don't know

 

1078

00:29:37,575 --> 00:29:38,777

what the express of the express,

 

1079

00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:42,881

but good gets in the way of great.

 

1080

00:29:42,881 --> 00:29:45,650

I also that I got I got to I.

 

1081

00:29:45,650 --> 00:29:47,919

Think the expression is don't let great

 

1082

00:29:47,919 --> 00:29:50,555

get in the way of good.

 

1083

00:29:52,090 --> 00:29:53,958

I don't make any sense.

 

1084

00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:54,359

That way.

 

1085

00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:55,660

It's great, great, great.

 

1086

00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:57,061

It's better than good.

 

1087

00:29:57,061 --> 00:29:57,962

I know that.

 

1088

00:29:57,962 --> 00:30:00,732

So a lot of people, they want to

 

1089

00:30:00,732 --> 00:30:01,032

Yeah.

 

1090

00:30:01,032 --> 00:30:02,567

You want to settle for good

 

1091

00:30:02,567 --> 00:30:04,702

and that gets a great right.

 

1092

00:30:04,702 --> 00:30:04,803

Well,

 

1093

00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:06,137

I mean don't let me lose my point

 

1094

00:30:06,137 --> 00:30:06,938

because you said something

 

1095

00:30:06,938 --> 00:30:09,007

brilliant there. Okay.

 

1096

00:30:09,007 --> 00:30:09,841

So

 

1097

00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:11,543

first I'm going to give it up to you.

 

1098

00:30:11,543 --> 00:30:13,444

But here but I made the same mistake.

 

1099

00:30:13,444 --> 00:30:16,047

And I think this is very important.

 

1100

00:30:16,047 --> 00:30:16,781

You know, I thought,

 

1101

00:30:16,781 --> 00:30:18,416

okay, yeah, we got a good price on this,

 

1102

00:30:19,651 --> 00:30:20,552

but maybe I could have got

 

1103

00:30:20,552 --> 00:30:22,754

a great price on this. Yes.

 

1104

00:30:22,754 --> 00:30:23,087

You know.

 

1105

00:30:23,087 --> 00:30:25,123

Exactly. Yes, exactly.

 

1106

00:30:25,123 --> 00:30:27,292

So that so that can be a mistake.

 

1107

00:30:27,292 --> 00:30:28,293

We thought. Yeah, okay.

 

1108

00:30:28,293 --> 00:30:29,127

Yeah, that's a good price.

 

1109

00:30:29,127 --> 00:30:30,328

I can you know,

 

1110

00:30:30,328 --> 00:30:32,130

or it could have been holy smokes,

 

1111

00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:34,065

that was a great price we got.

 

1112

00:30:34,065 --> 00:30:35,166

And now if I did that

 

1113

00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:37,669

three more times this month,

 

1114

00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,337

you know what I mean? Yeah.

 

1115

00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:41,639

And that's where I was a dummy

 

1116

00:30:41,639 --> 00:30:43,007

is every once in a while

 

1117

00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:44,242

you do get that great price,

 

1118

00:30:44,242 --> 00:30:45,210

and then

 

1119

00:30:45,410 --> 00:30:46,544

you drive and sing,

 

1120

00:30:46,544 --> 00:30:48,580

and now you're going home

 

1121

00:30:48,646 --> 00:30:50,114

window down singing.

 

1122

00:30:50,114 --> 00:30:52,717

Right? You're on high.

 

1123

00:30:52,717 --> 00:30:54,953

You're as high as can be, you know?

 

1124

00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:57,589

Why didn't I keep that going?

 

1125

00:30:57,589 --> 00:30:59,591

Why didn't I always go for the.

 

1126

00:31:00,124 --> 00:31:01,693

The great price?

 

1127

00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:02,861

I don't know, crazy.

 

1128

00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:05,230

But now people should take advantage

 

1129

00:31:05,230 --> 00:31:05,763

of it.

 

1130

00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:06,231

The reason

 

1131

00:31:06,231 --> 00:31:07,532

I like hanging around with you, Rob,

 

1132

00:31:07,532 --> 00:31:08,066

is because you're

 

1133

00:31:08,066 --> 00:31:10,001

like Hank Williams, like

 

1134

00:31:12,003 --> 00:31:13,471

you didn't put out a lot of stuff,

 

1135

00:31:13,471 --> 00:31:14,505

you know, he didn't realize it.

 

1136

00:31:14,505 --> 00:31:16,474

But it is the simple brilliance

 

1137

00:31:16,474 --> 00:31:18,276

of what he says sometimes

 

1138

00:31:18,276 --> 00:31:20,511

that like every every once in a while,

 

1139

00:31:20,511 --> 00:31:21,713

you'll see something like that.

 

1140

00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:26,217

And I go, damn, that is I was saying

 

1141

00:31:26,217 --> 00:31:28,386

that in a 300 words to get there,

 

1142

00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:29,854

but that was brilliant what you said.

 

1143

00:31:29,854 --> 00:31:32,724

And I think that's a very good point, is

 

1144

00:31:33,091 --> 00:31:34,459

maybe because you got good prices,

 

1145

00:31:34,459 --> 00:31:34,893

you were happy,

 

1146

00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:36,494

but you could have got great prices.

 

1147

00:31:36,494 --> 00:31:38,096

And if you extrapolate that out,

 

1148

00:31:38,096 --> 00:31:38,963

I think what a difference

 

1149

00:31:38,963 --> 00:31:39,898

it could have made.

 

1150

00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:42,433

So that's a very good point.

 

1151

00:31:42,433 --> 00:31:43,268

Wow.

 

1152

00:31:43,601 --> 00:31:45,303

He said that a few times

 

1153

00:31:45,303 --> 00:31:47,872

and I might listen to this show.

 

1154

00:31:47,872 --> 00:31:48,573

Mm hmm.

 

1155

00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:49,841

You know, Wayne,

 

1156

00:31:49,841 --> 00:31:50,875

this has been a good show.

 

1157

00:31:50,875 --> 00:31:52,343

I've got a ton of ideas,

 

1158

00:31:52,343 --> 00:31:53,778

but I think what everybody should do,

 

1159

00:31:53,778 --> 00:31:55,413

if you listen to this show,

 

1160

00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:58,049

maybe sit down and write some things down

 

1161

00:31:58,049 --> 00:32:00,318

that maybe you can start thinking

 

1162

00:32:00,318 --> 00:32:01,252

of your own ways,

 

1163

00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:02,520

thinking

 

1164

00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,523

out of the box in your own business.

 

1165

00:32:05,523 --> 00:32:06,391

I like that.

 

1166

00:32:06,391 --> 00:32:08,426

And, you know, sometimes change is hard.

 

1167

00:32:08,459 --> 00:32:09,360

So maybe pick

 

1168

00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,296

like of your last pick down, pick

 

1169

00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:11,796

two or three

 

1170

00:32:11,796 --> 00:32:13,598

that I'm going to get better at,

 

1171

00:32:13,598 --> 00:32:14,499

you know what I mean?

 

1172

00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:17,402

And also, I'm telling you, man, I'm

 

1173

00:32:17,468 --> 00:32:19,270

I'm very much a goal setter.

 

1174

00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:20,672

Set a goal.

 

1175

00:32:21,172 --> 00:32:22,473

Set a goal.

 

1176

00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:24,042

And and see

 

1177

00:32:24,042 --> 00:32:25,009

like we've done podcast

 

1178

00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:26,110

before of how much

 

1179

00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:27,378

how much you think

 

1180

00:32:27,378 --> 00:32:29,013

you're spending on the job versus

 

1181

00:32:29,013 --> 00:32:30,348

how much you really are.

 

1182

00:32:30,348 --> 00:32:33,484

And you say, Chris is a, that that idea

 

1183

00:32:33,484 --> 00:32:34,252

where he puts everything

 

1184

00:32:34,252 --> 00:32:36,821

he uses in on a job in a plastic bag

 

1185

00:32:37,488 --> 00:32:38,823

and every single thing,

 

1186

00:32:38,823 --> 00:32:40,558

even if every every edge

 

1187

00:32:40,558 --> 00:32:42,694

or paper scraper decided, threw away

 

1188

00:32:42,694 --> 00:32:43,328

everything

 

1189

00:32:43,328 --> 00:32:44,429

and itemize is what

 

1190

00:32:44,429 --> 00:32:46,497

my job's actually cost.

 

1191

00:32:46,497 --> 00:32:48,499

I love. That's a great starting place.

 

1192

00:32:48,499 --> 00:32:49,701

That is a classic

 

1193

00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:51,502

thinking outside of the box, huh?

 

1194

00:32:51,502 --> 00:32:53,204

Yeah, that was.

 

1195

00:32:53,204 --> 00:32:54,038

That was awesome.

 

1196

00:32:54,038 --> 00:32:55,373

First time I heard that is like

 

1197

00:32:55,373 --> 00:32:57,175

that is brilliant.

 

1198

00:32:57,175 --> 00:32:58,142

And Chris scissors

 

1199

00:32:58,142 --> 00:32:59,844

on the on the end of a podcast

 

1200

00:32:59,844 --> 00:33:00,578

with Brett Miller

 

1201

00:33:00,578 --> 00:33:02,180

they do a really good job

 

1202

00:33:02,180 --> 00:33:04,549

so I think that's a great place to start.

 

1203

00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:05,483

And then

 

1204

00:33:06,651 --> 00:33:07,085

maybe

 

1205

00:33:07,085 --> 00:33:07,819

find like two

 

1206

00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:09,387

or three things that you can change

 

1207

00:33:09,387 --> 00:33:10,288

and then set a goal.

 

1208

00:33:10,288 --> 00:33:11,122

And to me

 

1209

00:33:11,122 --> 00:33:13,458

the goal is how good am I at these,

 

1210

00:33:13,458 --> 00:33:14,559

you know, in a lot of

 

1211

00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,260

this is practicing yourself.

 

1212

00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:18,963

It's like Chris, Chris said

 

1213

00:33:18,963 --> 00:33:21,466

on the last podcast, you know what?

 

1214

00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:21,933

Each first

 

1215

00:33:21,933 --> 00:33:22,900

try to sell to a homeowner,

 

1216

00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,003

it didn't sound, you know,

 

1217

00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:26,804

he wasn't prepared to really say

 

1218

00:33:26,804 --> 00:33:27,672

it and pitch it.

 

1219

00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:29,474

So he didn't feel comfortable doing it.

 

1220

00:33:29,474 --> 00:33:32,076

So I think this requires time of of

 

1221

00:33:32,110 --> 00:33:33,077

of practicing it.

 

1222

00:33:33,077 --> 00:33:34,045

Say it in front of a mirror

 

1223

00:33:34,045 --> 00:33:35,113

over and over and over again.

 

1224

00:33:35,113 --> 00:33:37,849

It becomes second nature.

 

1225

00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:39,250

Maybe have pictures in books

 

1226

00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:41,019

and podcasts are in the pipeline.

 

1227

00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:43,221

Sorry I me again

 

1228

00:33:43,221 --> 00:33:45,890

I iPads that you can show your work

 

1229

00:33:46,257 --> 00:33:47,392

but so I think.

 

1230

00:33:47,392 --> 00:33:49,160

Great, great great job Rob.

 

1231

00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,495

I appreciate it.

 

1232

00:33:50,495 --> 00:33:51,396

And thank you for

 

1233

00:33:51,396 --> 00:33:52,530

for for bringing this to us

 

1234

00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:53,197

because this is a

 

1235

00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:54,732

really good information.

 

1236

00:33:54,732 --> 00:33:57,168

And yeah, you're so smart.

 

1237

00:33:57,168 --> 00:33:59,037

I really don't get beat up by Pete.

 

1238

00:34:00,104 --> 00:34:02,974

I this it's too late.

 

1239

00:34:02,974 --> 00:34:05,043

You think it's too late?

 

1240

00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:07,011

Yeah. He's a dog with a bone. Yeah.

 

1241

00:34:07,011 --> 00:34:08,046

Mm hmm.

 

1242

00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:08,613

You can call

 

1243

00:34:08,613 --> 00:34:10,715

you can call him off, though.

 

1244

00:34:10,848 --> 00:34:13,117

Do I? One of the. Hmm?

 

1245

00:34:13,117 --> 00:34:14,352

We all. Let's see a good fight.

 

1246

00:34:14,352 --> 00:34:16,320

Two old gamers going at it.

 

1247

00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,655

You know that's. True.

 

1248

00:34:17,655 --> 00:34:20,024

Yeah, it'd be a short fight.

 

1249

00:34:20,024 --> 00:34:21,459

I don't have a lot of time.

 

1250

00:34:21,459 --> 00:34:22,627

Okay.

 

1251

00:34:22,627 --> 00:34:23,861

Well, thank you very much, everybody.

 

1252

00:34:23,861 --> 00:34:24,595

Thank you, Rob.

 

1253

00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:25,630

There's been another episode

 

1254

00:34:25,630 --> 00:34:27,665

of On the Floor with Lady Rob.

 

1255

00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:36,741

Please stay tuned for another episode of.