On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Then and Now

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Episode Transcription

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Hello and

 

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welcome to

 

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another episode of On the Floor

 

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with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I’m Wayne

 

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Highlander Director of Sales

 

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for Bona Adhesives.

 

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I'm Rob Johnson from Bona Training.

 

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In a rob what's going on.

 

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I don't like it doesn't get me

 

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pumped up ready to go.

 

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Well

 

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I want to talk about something

 

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that will get

 

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you pumped up and ready to go.

 

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You know,

 

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we're going to talk a little bit

 

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about something down your lane today.

 

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And I

 

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something that I

 

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wholeheartedly believe in is one sentence

 

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that you see all the time that starts

 

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every week of every week that you work.

 

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That sentence is

 

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it's your cue.

 

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I, I don't know what my

 

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I don't know what that sentence is.

 

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Have you been doing for

 

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us for 20 years or

 

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you want it?

 

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Oh, okay.

 

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Now I see what you're saying.

 

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Yeah, man. Wow.

 

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Okay, well,

 

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you threw me off with that one.

 

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All right, Wayne, listen up.

 

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Part of the PowerPoint

 

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that we do it

 

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all our training is

 

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there's a slide

 

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that says

 

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you have blank years of experience

 

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or one year of experience repeated

 

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blank, many times riveting.

 

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What I thought we could talk

 

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about was our

 

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when you and I started

 

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and what's some

 

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of the things

 

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that you're doing differently

 

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now compared to,

 

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you know, your first five

 

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or six years of floors

 

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where we were just really

 

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doing what we were told

 

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not to get in any trouble.

 

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That's funny.

 

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Doing what

 

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you're told, not to get in any trouble.

 

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There's people that

 

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go through life like that,

 

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you know what I mean?

 

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Absolutely.

 

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Go through go through life like that.

 

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Just staying out of trouble.

 

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It's just now the light of sight,

 

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you know what I mean?

 

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There's no getting in any trouble.

 

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But yeah, I mean, things have changed

 

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dramatically since

 

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from when

 

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we first started to where we are now

 

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in the in the industry.

 

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So I think that would be

 

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kind of a neat one to talk about.

 

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Yeah, I agree.

 

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Now, when you start saying have flaws,

 

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it was with your Uncle Stan, right?

 

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Is that who Stan is?

 

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Who brought you into the business? Yeah.

 

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And you did a lot.

 

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I know you've mentioned it before.

 

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The Stan says stuff, right?

 

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He gets a little book.

 

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Stan says,

 

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but like I said,

 

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this show is about things that we changed

 

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that we thought when we started

 

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that was it.

 

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It was from the Holy Grail.

 

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You know, that book at the time

 

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when I wrote that,

 

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that was like the Bible

 

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for doing floors for me.

 

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That was from the

 

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the most experienced man

 

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I knew

 

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had been in the trade for 50 years.

 

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And this was his knowledge

 

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direct from him to me

 

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and so important

 

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that I wrote it all down.

 

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And today,

 

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absolutely none of it is valid.

 

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Isn't that amazing?

 

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That's wild.

 

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Yeah, that was the building ground

 

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for building blocks,

 

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for building my business

 

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and being a floor man.

 

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And none of it is is relative

 

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or germane today.

 

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The only thing is the passion behind it

 

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that it remains the same

 

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in that something it's crazy.

 

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So you're turning point was what.

 

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Education you know.

 

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Yes. Yeah, education.

 

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Staying knowing that I did knowing

 

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I was smart enough

 

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to know what I didn't know

 

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and things were changing.

 

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And I wanted to make sure that we are,

 

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you know, on the cusp of everything,

 

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you know, learning the new.

 

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And and don't get me wrong,

 

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I would not say I'm an early adapter.

 

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I am skeptical.

 

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Well, it well, I told you about my

 

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I was the last man in America

 

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to have a cassette player.

 

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I was one of the

 

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last three men in America

 

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that had a VCR with a wire wire

 

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connected to it.

 

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I didn't believe in new technology

 

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of this wireless crap kit.

 

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You know, that fad.

 

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I didn't think cassette tapes

 

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were going to be any better than

 

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eight track.

 

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So when I tell you that I'm not one

 

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to change willy nilly

 

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once I know something works, I mean, I'm.

 

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That's absolutely true.

 

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I remember standing in the

 

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Kmart auto department.

 

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Kmart used to have an amazing

 

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audio

 

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stereo for

 

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cars in the automotive department.

 

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They had everything speakers.

 

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And I remember standing in a Kmart

 

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auto department

 

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with a very good friend of mine,

 

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Scott Lapp. He's

 

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trying to talk him out of buying

 

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a cassette, a cassette player.

 

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He was going to make the jump

 

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from eight tracks to cassette.

 

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And I said, Scott, you're insane.

 

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First of all, you have to rebuy

 

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all of your music.

 

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And second off, this is a gimmick.

 

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It's a fad.

 

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This will never allow.

 

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And the only thing that will ever build,

 

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you know, withstand

 

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the test of time is eight track

 

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cassettes.

 

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Yeah. Cassettes will never make it.

 

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It will always be eight track.

 

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Literally.

 

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I stood there

 

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in that thing trying to talk him out of.

 

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Yeah, I was right with you, man.

 

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There's, there's no replacing the,

 

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the eight track set.

 

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And I know there's people listening

 

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to this show

 

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who have no idea

 

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what we're talking about.

 

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There's some people who

 

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probably might even

 

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have them someplace stored.

 

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But I know there's some people out there

 

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who are

 

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now never heard of an eight track set.

 

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Yeah, well,

 

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I mean, I think there's a

 

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certain rites of passage

 

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when you're a young adolescent

 

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growing up.

 

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One is your first dirt bike.

 

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I mean, when you're

 

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and that's why

 

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I'm against kids getting a getting a

 

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a dirt bike

 

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when they're like seven years old or

 

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four year old quads

 

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when they're like six or seven years old.

 

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I'm sorry.

 

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There's something

 

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about pedaling and pedaling and pedaling,

 

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pedaling uphill,

 

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you know, pedaling all day,

 

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trying to get somewhere

 

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on the other side of town

 

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and riding that bike forever.

 

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You'll never appreciate

 

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the wind in your hair.

 

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The the

 

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sound of a motor, the

 

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smell of gasoline

 

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when you hit that first dirt bike

 

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as much as a kid who's had a pedal

 

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and a bicycle for four years.

 

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And another one is

 

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is a great stereo system in your car.

 

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You know what I mean?

 

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I mean,

 

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I remember

 

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the old Jbl's

 

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and some of the other good stereo

 

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pioneer.

 

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There's another one where you're a kid.

 

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You couldn't

 

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wait to get a good stereo system.

 

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You know,

 

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you could crank as loud as you wanted.

 

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So yeah, but you know, things change.

 

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And like I say, technology changes.

 

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And, and so I was always

 

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willing to change if,

 

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if I saw a good reason behind it.

 

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I do credit Daniel Boone for because he's

 

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another one that I respected,

 

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like I respected my Uncle Stan

 

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and

 

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and

 

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that's probably the genesis

 

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for a lot of the changes

 

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and things that I did.

 

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I, I agree, though.

 

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My turning point was

 

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my first and WFA school.

 

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That's when I was just blown away.

 

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And like I said, the first

 

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and I've said it a million

 

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times on the show,

 

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you know, the first

 

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two days of that class, I was just,

 

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you know,

 

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everybody's stupid

 

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and everybody's doing everything wrong.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Until, you know,

 

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I saw a guy boffin stain on.

 

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And then ever since then, every training

 

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that I've ever been a part of,

 

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I know I'm going to walk away

 

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with with something.

 

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So definitely education

 

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is right up there.

 

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But here are some of mine

 

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that I do completely different now

 

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than I did.

 

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Maybe, let's say the first

 

269

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ten or 12 years of my floor

 

270

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sanding career

 

271

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and the first one

 

272

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right off the bat, first,

 

273

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when I started to write this down

 

274

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first when it hit me, was

 

275

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how I dispose of stain rags.

 

276

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Now, compared to how we

 

277

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dispose of stain rags.

 

278

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Mm hmm.

 

279

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What did you do initially?

 

280

00:08:37,950 --> 00:08:40,286

I used to ball em up and shove them

 

281

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deep down into a bag of dust.

 

282

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No kidding.

 

283

00:08:44,624 --> 00:08:45,958

Yeah. Wow.

 

284

00:08:45,958 --> 00:08:47,660

You get lucky.

 

285

00:08:47,660 --> 00:08:48,127

Oh, well,

 

286

00:08:48,127 --> 00:08:49,996

we had a couple of dust bag fires,

 

287

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but we.

 

288

00:08:51,163 --> 00:08:53,833

It never dawned on me that it was stain

 

289

00:08:53,833 --> 00:08:56,035

rags. Mm hmm. Ever.

 

290

00:08:56,035 --> 00:09:00,606

I mean, until I really started to teach

 

291

00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:01,941

and really started.

 

292

00:09:01,941 --> 00:09:03,743

And it was one of those things

 

293

00:09:03,743 --> 00:09:05,211

that I heard a million times.

 

294

00:09:05,211 --> 00:09:06,245

Oh, Stain Rag started

 

295

00:09:06,245 --> 00:09:07,880

the fire stain rags.

 

296

00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,648

And then,

 

297

00:09:08,648 --> 00:09:09,015

you know,

 

298

00:09:09,015 --> 00:09:10,149

I really jumped online

 

299

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and started reading about it and what,

 

300

00:09:12,618 --> 00:09:12,985

you know,

 

301

00:09:12,985 --> 00:09:16,122

the whole thing that happens with

 

302

00:09:16,122 --> 00:09:17,857

the oxidation because the air's

 

303

00:09:17,857 --> 00:09:19,625

taken away in the oxidation

 

304

00:09:19,625 --> 00:09:21,294

leaves, spontaneous combustion.

 

305

00:09:21,294 --> 00:09:21,794

And I was like,

 

306

00:09:21,794 --> 00:09:22,361

Oh my God,

 

307

00:09:22,361 --> 00:09:24,897

this is just unbelievable stuff.

 

308

00:09:24,897 --> 00:09:27,466

So I would say, That's right up

 

309

00:09:27,466 --> 00:09:28,901

there on the top of my list.

 

310

00:09:30,536 --> 00:09:32,939

Well, I'll start with finishing for me.

 

311

00:09:33,606 --> 00:09:36,709

I think I count rolling

 

312

00:09:36,709 --> 00:09:38,311

as the best thing I've ever learned

 

313

00:09:38,311 --> 00:09:40,046

is for finishing.

 

314

00:09:40,046 --> 00:09:43,082

And I we've brushed everything

 

315

00:09:43,082 --> 00:09:45,151

with a six inch brush for years.

 

316

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I mean, years and years,

 

317

00:09:46,852 --> 00:09:48,087

because that was, to me,

 

318

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the most quality technique

 

319

00:09:49,922 --> 00:09:50,389

you could

 

320

00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:50,923

you could get

 

321

00:09:50,923 --> 00:09:52,892

that was as clean as it got to coat

 

322

00:09:52,892 --> 00:09:55,094

a floor, six inch pretty brush.

 

323

00:09:55,094 --> 00:09:55,928

Keep it in the jacket.

 

324

00:09:55,928 --> 00:09:58,998

When you were done and take care of it.

 

325

00:09:58,998 --> 00:09:59,298

Get out.

 

326

00:09:59,298 --> 00:10:02,101

Get a comb coming out when you're done.

 

327

00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:03,002

Actually, there's nothing

 

328

00:10:03,002 --> 00:10:04,971

dirtier than a brand new brush.

 

329

00:10:04,971 --> 00:10:07,006

You have a brand new brush off the shelf

 

330

00:10:07,006 --> 00:10:08,574

and take a brush combing, comb

 

331

00:10:08,574 --> 00:10:10,209

through it and see how filthy

 

332

00:10:10,209 --> 00:10:11,577

they're filthy.

 

333

00:10:11,577 --> 00:10:12,044

But

 

334

00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:16,115

when I learned how to roll,

 

335

00:10:16,115 --> 00:10:17,116

I mean, believe me,

 

336

00:10:17,116 --> 00:10:18,150

we went through the sequence

 

337

00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:19,785

of rolling in, in t bar

 

338

00:10:19,785 --> 00:10:20,987

and in the lamb's wool

 

339

00:10:20,987 --> 00:10:23,823

before t bar and all the whole nine yards

 

340

00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:26,225

hit by a landslide.

 

341

00:10:26,225 --> 00:10:27,159

Rolling was the best thing

 

342

00:10:27,159 --> 00:10:28,260

I ever learned about finishing,

 

343

00:10:28,260 --> 00:10:29,462

and it's not for every job.

 

344

00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:30,363

I'm the first to say it's

 

345

00:10:30,363 --> 00:10:31,897

not for every job,

 

346

00:10:31,931 --> 00:10:34,166

but it is an amazing technique.

 

347

00:10:34,166 --> 00:10:35,001

And it's

 

348

00:10:35,167 --> 00:10:37,937

I think the quality of of a road floor

 

349

00:10:37,937 --> 00:10:44,310

is better than the brush floor.

 

350

00:10:44,310 --> 00:10:46,612

So you you brushed all your floors

 

351

00:10:46,612 --> 00:10:48,280

when you first start you and stand

 

352

00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,116

probably for everything single brush.

 

353

00:10:50,116 --> 00:10:52,551

15 years I brushed.

 

354

00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:54,153

That's it.

 

355

00:10:54,153 --> 00:10:55,821

Six inch brushed, nothing else.

 

356

00:10:55,821 --> 00:10:56,422

Yep.

 

357

00:10:57,223 --> 00:10:58,424

Get a wide stance.

 

358

00:10:58,424 --> 00:11:00,660

Get your bucket. Get low to the ground.

 

359

00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:03,195

Sometimes you'd rest your your

 

360

00:11:03,195 --> 00:11:05,531

your forearm and your on your left leg

 

361

00:11:05,998 --> 00:11:08,000

with a bucket was held when you got tired

 

362

00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,302

and brushed everything.

 

363

00:11:10,302 --> 00:11:12,638

Oh, wow.

 

364

00:11:12,872 --> 00:11:15,374

No landfill applicators for you.

 

365

00:11:15,374 --> 00:11:16,942

Now, we went from the

 

366

00:11:16,942 --> 00:11:18,177

brushing to lamb's wool

 

367

00:11:19,412 --> 00:11:20,312

and lambs.

 

368

00:11:20,312 --> 00:11:23,749

All could do a good job.

 

369

00:11:23,749 --> 00:11:25,284

I mean, sometimes a fantastic job,

 

370

00:11:25,284 --> 00:11:27,386

but you can never really trust them 100%,

 

371

00:11:28,220 --> 00:11:28,788

you know what I mean?

 

372

00:11:28,788 --> 00:11:30,990

From from shedding.

 

373

00:11:31,323 --> 00:11:33,159

So, you know, when you got one broken

 

374

00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:33,626

in, I said

 

375

00:11:33,626 --> 00:11:36,562

before we throw them in the washer dryer

 

376

00:11:36,896 --> 00:11:38,297

to get as much the fuzz off it,

 

377

00:11:38,297 --> 00:11:39,031

we put it on a

 

378

00:11:39,031 --> 00:11:41,133

on the, on the block,

 

379

00:11:41,133 --> 00:11:44,370

take a cigaret lighter to to hit

 

380

00:11:44,370 --> 00:11:45,304

all the the ends

 

381

00:11:45,304 --> 00:11:47,640

for the fussiness stuff on the ends,

 

382

00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,507

clean them up again.

 

383

00:11:48,507 --> 00:11:50,810

Once you got one broken in,

 

384

00:11:50,810 --> 00:11:52,411

it goes through the sequence

 

385

00:11:52,411 --> 00:11:54,547

of being on seal coats, first

 

386

00:11:54,547 --> 00:11:55,848

the first coat,

 

387

00:11:55,848 --> 00:11:57,817

and then you could trust it on

 

388

00:11:57,817 --> 00:11:59,218

on the finish coats

 

389

00:11:59,218 --> 00:12:00,786

and then you'd balled up and put it in

 

390

00:12:00,786 --> 00:12:02,354

the can afterwards.

 

391

00:12:02,354 --> 00:12:04,023

You don't have to have poly in it

 

392

00:12:04,023 --> 00:12:04,590

to keep it good.

 

393

00:12:04,590 --> 00:12:06,625

Just keep the lid close on the can.

 

394

00:12:06,625 --> 00:12:08,627

And I think it will last forever.

 

395

00:12:08,627 --> 00:12:09,729

And and,

 

396

00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:09,995

you know,

 

397

00:12:09,995 --> 00:12:10,696

you would never want

 

398

00:12:10,696 --> 00:12:12,765

to break in a new one.

 

399

00:12:12,765 --> 00:12:14,300

So now we used to keep them right

 

400

00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:16,268

in the bucket of polyurethane.

 

401

00:12:16,268 --> 00:12:17,069

Mm hmm.

 

402

00:12:17,403 --> 00:12:18,404

We never. We.

 

403

00:12:18,404 --> 00:12:18,771

Yeah.

 

404

00:12:18,771 --> 00:12:19,739

The last thing you want to do

 

405

00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:23,476

is put a new one on there.

 

406

00:12:23,476 --> 00:12:24,310

Another one of mine

 

407

00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:26,378

was how we stored dust,

 

408

00:12:26,378 --> 00:12:28,347

especially in backpack vacuums.

 

409

00:12:28,347 --> 00:12:32,017

We had two backpack fires,

 

410

00:12:32,017 --> 00:12:33,919

all from storing dust inside

 

411

00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:36,222

of the not empty in the backpack

 

412

00:12:36,222 --> 00:12:37,656

and keeping that in the shop

 

413

00:12:37,656 --> 00:12:41,227

and still never figuring out why.

 

414

00:12:42,561 --> 00:12:45,631

You know, we had backpack fires until,

 

415

00:12:45,865 --> 00:12:46,265

you know,

 

416

00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:46,799

one day

 

417

00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:49,335

it dawned on us that

 

418

00:12:49,335 --> 00:12:51,937

the motors get hot as a machine gets used

 

419

00:12:51,937 --> 00:12:53,005

and that dust gets hot

 

420

00:12:53,005 --> 00:12:53,305

and melts

 

421

00:12:53,305 --> 00:12:53,639

the oil

 

422

00:12:53,639 --> 00:12:56,075

on the side of the plastic of the

 

423

00:12:56,075 --> 00:12:58,711

backpack. And

 

424

00:12:58,711 --> 00:13:00,479

once that hole gets melted, dust starts

 

425

00:13:00,479 --> 00:13:02,948

falling out, air starts going in.

 

426

00:13:02,948 --> 00:13:06,185

So but we never really figure it out,

 

427

00:13:06,252 --> 00:13:10,356

even when it was happening to us.

 

428

00:13:10,356 --> 00:13:12,391

Yeah. Regular pyromania, were you?

 

429

00:13:12,391 --> 00:13:15,494

Yeah. Yes.

 

430

00:13:15,494 --> 00:13:17,863

With. Absolutely.

 

431

00:13:17,863 --> 00:13:19,665

Yeah. Just.

 

432

00:13:19,665 --> 00:13:20,432

You said you should have

 

433

00:13:20,432 --> 00:13:21,834

you should have walked around

 

434

00:13:21,834 --> 00:13:23,769

in a flame retardant suit

 

435

00:13:23,769 --> 00:13:29,942

with all the stuff you were doing.

 

436

00:13:29,942 --> 00:13:33,345

You know what?

 

437

00:13:33,345 --> 00:13:34,446

It took me later

 

438

00:13:34,446 --> 00:13:36,482

in life to learn on the small jobs

 

439

00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:37,583

and insulation jobs.

 

440

00:13:37,583 --> 00:13:39,785

Like I say, 300 square feet and under

 

441

00:13:39,785 --> 00:13:43,422

is just been them for refinish floors.

 

442

00:13:43,422 --> 00:13:44,523

Just just do a three

 

443

00:13:44,523 --> 00:13:45,658

finished floor with them.

 

444

00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:46,625

You know,

 

445

00:13:46,625 --> 00:13:48,360

if you have to go back as many times

 

446

00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,563

you have to, to to install and sand

 

447

00:13:50,563 --> 00:13:52,031

and finish, you know,

 

448

00:13:52,031 --> 00:13:53,232

you drop it off to acclimate it,

 

449

00:13:53,232 --> 00:13:54,900

you come back to install it

 

450

00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:56,368

and then you got to come back and sand

 

451

00:13:56,368 --> 00:13:56,902

and stain it

 

452

00:13:56,902 --> 00:13:58,204

and maybe get the first coat on it.

 

453

00:13:58,204 --> 00:13:59,004

Did you got to come back,

 

454

00:13:59,004 --> 00:14:01,440

you know, put the subsequent coats on it

 

455

00:14:02,875 --> 00:14:03,742

on some jobs.

 

456

00:14:03,742 --> 00:14:04,176

It just make

 

457

00:14:04,176 --> 00:14:05,444

sense to put a pre finished floor in.

 

458

00:14:05,444 --> 00:14:07,413

And that's coming from a guy who

 

459

00:14:07,413 --> 00:14:08,280

my whole

 

460

00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,748

background passion

 

461

00:14:09,748 --> 00:14:11,851

is with unfinished flooring.

 

462

00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:13,986

When you start doing the math for me,

 

463

00:14:13,986 --> 00:14:16,088

you start doing the math.

 

464

00:14:16,088 --> 00:14:17,756

It just makes more sense.

 

465

00:14:17,756 --> 00:14:19,592

Unless

 

466

00:14:19,792 --> 00:14:20,759

you can schedule

 

467

00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:22,294

sometimes you can schedule jobs

 

468

00:14:22,294 --> 00:14:23,762

around the same area,

 

469

00:14:23,762 --> 00:14:24,964

you know what I mean?

 

470

00:14:24,964 --> 00:14:25,531

Yeah, same.

 

471

00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:26,632

Same part of the woods,

 

472

00:14:26,632 --> 00:14:27,633

same part of town.

 

473

00:14:27,633 --> 00:14:29,535

So in that case,

 

474

00:14:29,535 --> 00:14:30,870

it makes sense in the morning.

 

475

00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:32,671

Boom, it just won't put a coat on

 

476

00:14:32,671 --> 00:14:33,239

because you're working

 

477

00:14:33,239 --> 00:14:35,207

right down the road, you know?

 

478

00:14:35,207 --> 00:14:36,842

And then that case, it does make sense.

 

479

00:14:36,842 --> 00:14:40,112

But I learned smarter ways of

 

480

00:14:40,546 --> 00:14:43,082

of looking at the jobs

 

481

00:14:43,182 --> 00:14:44,583

financially.

 

482

00:14:44,583 --> 00:14:45,384

That's a good one.

 

483

00:14:45,384 --> 00:14:48,087

I like that one.

 

484

00:14:48,087 --> 00:14:50,289

Smaller jobs go with pre finished.

 

485

00:14:51,223 --> 00:14:53,025

So what were you like under 200 feet?

 

486

00:14:54,293 --> 00:14:56,562

I'd say like under 200, 300 square feet,

 

487

00:14:57,129 --> 00:14:58,464

especially if it was out there

 

488

00:14:58,464 --> 00:15:00,633

any if I was any travel involved at all.

 

489

00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:02,034

But here's another thing

 

490

00:15:02,034 --> 00:15:04,003

and I'll put this down is another one.

 

491

00:15:04,003 --> 00:15:07,239

And it's charge more money

 

492

00:15:08,340 --> 00:15:09,541

but it's

 

493

00:15:09,541 --> 00:15:11,577

you know, these people today

 

494

00:15:12,511 --> 00:15:13,946

when I see the

 

495

00:15:13,946 --> 00:15:15,114

the amount of money

 

496

00:15:15,114 --> 00:15:16,415

that these guys are charging today,

 

497

00:15:16,415 --> 00:15:18,918

sometimes it's it's unreal to me

 

498

00:15:19,385 --> 00:15:20,853

what they're able to get.

 

499

00:15:20,853 --> 00:15:21,720

So we do,

 

500

00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,655

you know, we complain about,

 

501

00:15:22,655 --> 00:15:23,689

oh, it's hard to get help

 

502

00:15:23,689 --> 00:15:24,924

and what have you and,

 

503

00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:27,593

you know, we just those type of things.

 

504

00:15:27,593 --> 00:15:28,427

But let's face it,

 

505

00:15:28,427 --> 00:15:29,895

if we're being honest guys too,

 

506

00:15:29,895 --> 00:15:31,530

they are charging.

 

507

00:15:31,530 --> 00:15:32,398

I mean, what we would see

 

508

00:15:32,398 --> 00:15:34,199

is crazy amounts of money

 

509

00:15:34,199 --> 00:15:36,902

to do this, which I think is phenomenal.

 

510

00:15:36,902 --> 00:15:37,803

Fantastic.

 

511

00:15:37,803 --> 00:15:38,704

I mean, I couldn't

 

512

00:15:38,704 --> 00:15:40,806

that is that is always a goal.

 

513

00:15:41,573 --> 00:15:41,840

But

 

514

00:15:45,544 --> 00:15:46,278

so yeah,

 

515

00:15:46,278 --> 00:15:48,180

with that in mind, I mean, you know,

 

516

00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:49,515

there are times with the guys today,

 

517

00:15:49,515 --> 00:15:50,783

I hear a guy say you're traveling,

 

518

00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:52,051

they'll do that three square foot job

 

519

00:15:52,051 --> 00:15:52,885

because they'll charge

 

520

00:15:52,885 --> 00:15:54,553

an astronomical amount of money for it

 

521

00:15:54,553 --> 00:15:55,921

and it's worth it for them.

 

522

00:15:55,921 --> 00:15:57,823

So you get you got to pick your poison.

 

523

00:15:57,823 --> 00:15:59,091

One of the other

 

524

00:15:59,091 --> 00:16:01,460

you has a charge appropriately

 

525

00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:05,331

and the guys that are just not afraid to

 

526

00:16:05,331 --> 00:16:06,131

to charge

 

527

00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:07,599

and don't feel guilty about charging

 

528

00:16:07,599 --> 00:16:10,602

whatever are making an absolute killing.

 

529

00:16:10,602 --> 00:16:12,271

And I think it's fantastic

 

530

00:16:12,271 --> 00:16:13,939

because it's hard work and you need to.

 

531

00:16:13,939 --> 00:16:17,409

Your have been on jury duty.

 

532

00:16:17,409 --> 00:16:20,679

No I've always got out of it.

 

533

00:16:20,679 --> 00:16:22,948

I have finally

 

534

00:16:22,948 --> 00:16:24,717

I've done everything to get out of it

 

535

00:16:24,717 --> 00:16:27,987

and now I have to go tomorrow.

 

536

00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:29,455

I have to go to jury duty tomorrow

 

537

00:16:29,455 --> 00:16:30,289

on a grand jury.

 

538

00:16:30,289 --> 00:16:32,858

I have no idea what I'm going to do.

 

539

00:16:32,858 --> 00:16:33,592

Yeah.

 

540

00:16:33,892 --> 00:16:35,561

But I've been ducking it for a while.

 

541

00:16:35,561 --> 00:16:38,330

And now, finally,

 

542

00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:39,231

I thought for sure

 

543

00:16:39,231 --> 00:16:40,599

you were going to have a good jury

 

544

00:16:40,599 --> 00:16:42,167

duty story.

 

545

00:16:42,167 --> 00:16:42,968

No, but I have.

 

546

00:16:42,968 --> 00:16:44,903

I have a courtroom story.

 

547

00:16:44,903 --> 00:16:47,306

Was there one of our one of

 

548

00:16:47,306 --> 00:16:49,608

my relatives was assaulted by somebody

 

549

00:16:50,109 --> 00:16:53,212

badly. Okay. So my

 

550

00:16:54,279 --> 00:16:54,913

that person's

 

551

00:16:54,913 --> 00:16:55,481

father wanted

 

552

00:16:55,481 --> 00:16:56,915

me to go to court with them

 

553

00:16:56,915 --> 00:16:58,951

in support of this person.

 

554

00:16:58,951 --> 00:17:00,686

That was you know what I mean?

 

555

00:17:00,686 --> 00:17:01,220

You know,

 

556

00:17:01,220 --> 00:17:03,255

and this guy was going to come up for

 

557

00:17:03,255 --> 00:17:04,189

for the first

 

558

00:17:04,189 --> 00:17:05,491

the first appearance in court.

 

559

00:17:05,491 --> 00:17:06,091

Okay.

 

560

00:17:06,091 --> 00:17:06,959

Got the overalls

 

561

00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:07,526

on, you know,

 

562

00:17:07,526 --> 00:17:08,360

the orange jumpsuit,

 

563

00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:10,696

the overalls that he gave you, whatever.

 

564

00:17:11,463 --> 00:17:13,766

And, you know, it was like

 

565

00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:15,467

ten or 12 guys here. Right.

 

566

00:17:15,467 --> 00:17:16,735

And when we come out and they

 

567

00:17:16,735 --> 00:17:18,604

they get what his offense was.

 

568

00:17:18,604 --> 00:17:21,173

And so he you know, this guy comes out

 

569

00:17:21,173 --> 00:17:22,608

and my like

 

570

00:17:22,608 --> 00:17:24,176

my cousin taps me like,

 

571

00:17:24,176 --> 00:17:26,712

yeah, that's the guy who did it, right?

 

572

00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:31,016

So I'm sitting up right up front.

 

573

00:17:31,016 --> 00:17:32,918

So, you know, you versus saying

 

574

00:17:32,918 --> 00:17:34,186

where you go.

 

575

00:17:34,186 --> 00:17:34,453

I mean,

 

576

00:17:34,453 --> 00:17:37,089

I'm staring at this guy like hard, right?

 

577

00:17:37,689 --> 00:17:38,490

Because, you know,

 

578

00:17:38,490 --> 00:17:40,059

because he got assaulted

 

579

00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:41,527

and and,

 

580

00:17:41,527 --> 00:17:43,095

you know, the taking the finger

 

581

00:17:43,095 --> 00:17:44,263

under the neck sign.

 

582

00:17:44,263 --> 00:17:45,664

You know what I mean? It come like this.

 

583

00:17:45,664 --> 00:17:46,932

Universal. Yeah.

 

584

00:17:46,932 --> 00:17:48,133

I'm going to kill you. Sorry.

 

585

00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:49,101

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

586

00:17:49,101 --> 00:17:49,968

You're dead, man.

 

587

00:17:49,968 --> 00:17:50,636

So, yeah,

 

588

00:17:50,636 --> 00:17:53,272

it's discreetly as I could to the to the

 

589

00:17:53,639 --> 00:17:54,740

to to the

 

590

00:17:55,741 --> 00:17:57,242

sheriffs that were there.

 

591

00:17:57,242 --> 00:17:58,410

I do that same to.

 

592

00:17:58,410 --> 00:18:00,045

All right, so then he does a double take.

 

593

00:18:00,045 --> 00:18:02,648

It looks at me so so I do it again

 

594

00:18:03,782 --> 00:18:06,018

and I'm not smiling, let's say.

 

595

00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:06,618

Right.

 

596

00:18:08,287 --> 00:18:09,855

So he looks around the courtroom again

 

597

00:18:09,855 --> 00:18:10,923

and he kind of looks back at me again.

 

598

00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:12,691

I do it again for like a third time.

 

599

00:18:12,691 --> 00:18:13,292

Right.

 

600

00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:16,161

So then the the judge freezes

 

601

00:18:16,161 --> 00:18:17,229

offense

 

602

00:18:19,231 --> 00:18:20,365

did was ever DUI

 

603

00:18:20,365 --> 00:18:29,908

it was the wrong guy.

 

604

00:18:29,908 --> 00:18:30,843

Yeah love.

 

605

00:18:30,843 --> 00:18:32,678

It. So oops.

 

606

00:18:32,678 --> 00:18:35,214

Oh well, you shouldn't drink. You drive.

 

607

00:18:35,214 --> 00:18:36,014

All right.

 

608

00:18:36,014 --> 00:18:37,416

So, yeah, he'll never

 

609

00:18:37,416 --> 00:18:38,784

you'll never drink and drive again.

 

610

00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:39,852

There's some crazy guy out.

 

611

00:18:39,852 --> 00:18:41,820

They want to kill me over it.

 

612

00:18:41,820 --> 00:18:42,588

Especially around me.

 

613

00:18:42,588 --> 00:18:44,623

You know something I just saw in the

 

614

00:18:45,257 --> 00:18:46,325

in the news today

 

615

00:18:47,926 --> 00:18:48,827

with sperm

 

616

00:18:48,827 --> 00:18:51,163

banks are no longer taking,

 

617

00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:57,936

say, donations from redheaded people.

 

618

00:18:57,936 --> 00:18:59,238

That's not true.

 

619

00:18:59,238 --> 00:19:00,472

I God strike me dead.

 

620

00:19:00,472 --> 00:19:02,107

That cannot be true.

 

621

00:19:02,107 --> 00:19:04,510

I'm going to send it to you.

 

622

00:19:04,510 --> 00:19:07,146

Yeah.

 

623

00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:08,580

So what are you going to do?

 

624

00:19:08,580 --> 00:19:10,215

Well, I never did.

 

625

00:19:10,215 --> 00:19:11,550

Shave your head

 

626

00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:13,886

in your head and your mustache,

 

627

00:19:13,886 --> 00:19:14,653

shave it all.

 

628

00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:16,388

They'll never know what.

 

629

00:19:16,388 --> 00:19:16,655

Going to do.

 

630

00:19:16,655 --> 00:19:18,123

Like I was donating.

 

631

00:19:18,123 --> 00:19:18,590

Go.

 

632

00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:21,360

Go in with long sleeves.

 

633

00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:22,494

No. Yeah.

 

634

00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:23,629

We've got to have another Wayne

 

635

00:19:23,629 --> 00:19:25,831

Highlander in the in the cooker.

 

636

00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:26,131

All right.

 

637

00:19:26,131 --> 00:19:30,736

I'm going to send you this information.

 

638

00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:32,104

Okay. Go ahead.

 

639

00:19:32,104 --> 00:19:34,239

Isn't that some serious discrimination

 

640

00:19:34,239 --> 00:19:35,174

doing that?

 

641

00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:41,413

They said, yeah.

 

642

00:19:41,413 --> 00:19:44,283

Okay.

 

643

00:19:44,283 --> 00:19:48,954

Another thing that I that I changed down

 

644

00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:51,456

the road is we I said it before, but

 

645

00:19:52,291 --> 00:19:54,560

we used to hand stand everything.

 

646

00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,229

And when even if you broached the topic

 

647

00:19:57,229 --> 00:19:59,698

of bringing in orbital sander,

 

648

00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:01,767

it was a big time. No, no.

 

649

00:20:01,767 --> 00:20:02,201

For us.

 

650

00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,168

Like you were lazy,

 

651

00:20:03,168 --> 00:20:05,537

even even asking about it,

 

652

00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:07,706

we would just not even hear about it.

 

653

00:20:08,307 --> 00:20:09,474

You had to hands in

 

654

00:20:09,474 --> 00:20:10,676

to get it, to blend the bass

 

655

00:20:10,676 --> 00:20:11,109

and everything.

 

656

00:20:11,109 --> 00:20:12,277

And we thought

 

657

00:20:12,277 --> 00:20:13,579

that's the way it had to be done.

 

658

00:20:13,579 --> 00:20:14,580

That's the way I was taught.

 

659

00:20:15,781 --> 00:20:16,081

That's the

 

660

00:20:16,081 --> 00:20:18,784

way we we just would not.

 

661

00:20:19,351 --> 00:20:20,385

And we held on to that

 

662

00:20:20,385 --> 00:20:23,455

for years and years and years and years.

 

663

00:20:23,455 --> 00:20:24,856

Yeah. You know something?

 

664

00:20:24,856 --> 00:20:26,024

Some of the best risers,

 

665

00:20:26,024 --> 00:20:26,892

if you ever get a stair

 

666

00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:28,560

treads and risers,

 

667

00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,295

do a set of stairs, treads and risers

 

668

00:20:30,295 --> 00:20:31,196

doing the risers down

 

669

00:20:31,196 --> 00:20:33,832

and you're going back similar color.

 

670

00:20:33,832 --> 00:20:34,900

You know, the way that we used to do

 

671

00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:37,202

the risers oftentimes

 

672

00:20:37,202 --> 00:20:39,271

hands in it with 30 screwed sandpaper,

 

673

00:20:40,505 --> 00:20:41,640

believe it or not,

 

674

00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,841

break it up and stand it

 

675

00:20:42,841 --> 00:20:44,776

real good with 36 sandpaper

 

676

00:20:44,776 --> 00:20:46,411

and then and then restate it

 

677

00:20:46,411 --> 00:20:49,548

and they will look sensational.

 

678

00:20:49,548 --> 00:20:51,083

Yep. That's it. 36.

 

679

00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:52,251

Nothing. 36.

 

680

00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:54,019

Grit, sandpaper, break it all up.

 

681

00:20:54,019 --> 00:20:54,519

We're going back

 

682

00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:56,255

pretty close to same color.

 

683

00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:57,356

And my brother John

 

684

00:20:57,356 --> 00:20:59,024

showed me that on the job one time

 

685

00:20:59,024 --> 00:21:00,292

and I went,

 

686

00:21:00,292 --> 00:21:01,693

Oh, man, I can't even believe this.

 

687

00:21:01,693 --> 00:21:03,595

It looks it looks fantastic.

 

688

00:21:03,595 --> 00:21:05,731

And you can always do that.

 

689

00:21:05,731 --> 00:21:07,833

But if you going close to the same color

 

690

00:21:07,833 --> 00:21:08,834

and a lot of risers,

 

691

00:21:08,834 --> 00:21:09,835

they don't put a lot of finish

 

692

00:21:09,835 --> 00:21:11,103

on to begin with because it's

 

693

00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:12,738

going to it's going to run

 

694

00:21:12,738 --> 00:21:14,573

so they get thin coats.

 

695

00:21:14,573 --> 00:21:15,641

So. Yeah.

 

696

00:21:15,741 --> 00:21:16,742

So anyhow.

 

697

00:21:16,742 --> 00:21:18,744

There you go.

 

698

00:21:18,744 --> 00:21:21,446

One of my big ones change was no more.

 

699

00:21:21,446 --> 00:21:23,382

36, 80 or 40. 80.

 

700

00:21:24,783 --> 00:21:25,183

Yes.

 

701

00:21:25,183 --> 00:21:26,318

Giving grits.

 

702

00:21:26,852 --> 00:21:28,754

Yeah. Skip and grits.

 

703

00:21:28,754 --> 00:21:30,856

It just meant nothing to us back then.

 

704

00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:34,192

I look back now at things that we did

 

705

00:21:34,192 --> 00:21:35,794

and that was one of the

 

706

00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:36,495

that I think

 

707

00:21:36,495 --> 00:21:38,897

was one of our bigger mistakes.

 

708

00:21:38,897 --> 00:21:41,066

Yeah, but. I always make the joke.

 

709

00:21:41,066 --> 00:21:42,167

We got away with a lot

 

710

00:21:42,167 --> 00:21:45,937

because everything was, you know, 40, 87,

 

711

00:21:45,937 --> 00:21:47,105

probably in bad lighting,

 

712

00:21:47,105 --> 00:21:49,574

not anything that anybody gets anymore

 

713

00:21:49,574 --> 00:21:52,344

to work with. Mm hmm.

 

714

00:21:52,344 --> 00:21:54,146

So I.

 

715

00:21:54,713 --> 00:21:55,681

I think it was basically

 

716

00:21:55,681 --> 00:21:56,982

a really good instructor

 

717

00:21:56,982 --> 00:21:58,417

is that you've gone through all that

 

718

00:21:58,417 --> 00:21:59,785

for all those years

 

719

00:21:59,785 --> 00:22:01,687

because you do such a good job

 

720

00:22:01,687 --> 00:22:02,888

in the classes

 

721

00:22:02,888 --> 00:22:04,823

in illustrating why that doesn't work

 

722

00:22:04,823 --> 00:22:06,591

or why you shouldn't do that.

 

723

00:22:06,591 --> 00:22:07,359

And

 

724

00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:08,960

I actually

 

725

00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,562

was never really guilty of that.

 

726

00:22:10,562 --> 00:22:12,431

I always said someone could

 

727

00:22:12,431 --> 00:22:14,599

go a whole career of of sanding floors

 

728

00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:15,600

and never by sandpaper of

 

729

00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,935

they were my friends

 

730

00:22:16,935 --> 00:22:18,570

because on the belts.

 

731

00:22:18,570 --> 00:22:19,471

Well when I changed

 

732

00:22:19,471 --> 00:22:20,372

when I got to the belts

 

733

00:22:21,540 --> 00:22:22,107

but when I

 

734

00:22:22,107 --> 00:22:23,442

ran my drum sander

 

735

00:22:23,442 --> 00:22:25,711

I probably changed my my paper way

 

736

00:22:26,078 --> 00:22:28,680

more often than I needed to on the belts.

 

737

00:22:29,781 --> 00:22:31,383

Whenever I took a belt off,

 

738

00:22:31,383 --> 00:22:33,552

I would take a red sharpie

 

739

00:22:33,552 --> 00:22:34,386

and the inside of the

 

740

00:22:34,386 --> 00:22:35,354

that I would write

 

741

00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:37,622

how many square feet I sanded with it.

 

742

00:22:37,622 --> 00:22:38,357

You know what I mean?

 

743

00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:39,691

If I if I say I did

 

744

00:22:39,691 --> 00:22:40,058

three or four

 

745

00:22:40,058 --> 00:22:40,726

square feet with it

 

746

00:22:40,726 --> 00:22:41,159

or whatever,

 

747

00:22:41,159 --> 00:22:41,593

I take a red

 

748

00:22:41,593 --> 00:22:42,828

carpet, I'd write 300 square

 

749

00:22:42,828 --> 00:22:43,929

feet on the inside.

 

750

00:22:43,929 --> 00:22:44,262

So I know.

 

751

00:22:44,262 --> 00:22:46,131

Okay, I've got pretty good life left

 

752

00:22:46,131 --> 00:22:48,600

this and I did take care of my belt.

 

753

00:22:49,267 --> 00:22:52,471

I really did take care of my belts

 

754

00:22:52,471 --> 00:22:53,939

and I put them back properly

 

755

00:22:53,939 --> 00:22:55,240

and I didn't store them on concrete

 

756

00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,041

and those type of things.

 

757

00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:58,810

So to get the most life out of my belt,

 

758

00:22:58,810 --> 00:23:00,912

and that's one thing that I would do

 

759

00:23:00,912 --> 00:23:01,680

towards the end of my career,

 

760

00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,082

I did not start as aggressively as when I

 

761

00:23:04,182 --> 00:23:06,485

when I first started doing floors,

 

762

00:23:06,485 --> 00:23:07,919

you know, going with 36th grade

 

763

00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:08,453

or whatever.

 

764

00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:08,787

I mean,

 

765

00:23:08,787 --> 00:23:12,157

I think the the advances in sandpaper,

 

766

00:23:12,758 --> 00:23:13,725

certainly bone green.

 

767

00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:15,594

I hear a lot of good feedback about bone

 

768

00:23:15,594 --> 00:23:18,597

green on the on the chatter on the

 

769

00:23:19,297 --> 00:23:21,733

on the Facebook flooring groups.

 

770

00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:24,669

That is a piece of sandpaper in and where

 

771

00:23:24,669 --> 00:23:25,904

I normally would maybe start

 

772

00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:27,873

with the 36 grit,

 

773

00:23:27,873 --> 00:23:30,275

I go down to 50 Grit all day long

 

774

00:23:30,876 --> 00:23:31,843

with that sandpaper.

 

775

00:23:31,843 --> 00:23:33,044

So yeah.

 

776

00:23:33,178 --> 00:23:34,346

Yeah, I agree with you there.

 

777

00:23:34,346 --> 00:23:35,046

That was definitely

 

778

00:23:35,046 --> 00:23:37,382

one of the changes I made to

 

779

00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:38,784

I start everything now

 

780

00:23:38,784 --> 00:23:40,218

at 50 no matter what.

 

781

00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,755

50 was always my 50.

 

782

00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:45,857

Yeah, but in the old days it was every

 

783

00:23:45,891 --> 00:23:47,993

almost everything we started with 24.

 

784

00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:51,363

Wow. I know she's.

 

785

00:23:51,563 --> 00:23:52,998

I think about things.

 

786

00:23:52,998 --> 00:23:54,566

It's crazy.

 

787

00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:55,033

Yeah.

 

788

00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:56,234

The milling is better than it

 

789

00:23:56,234 --> 00:23:57,736

ever has been.

 

790

00:23:57,769 --> 00:23:59,171

I think we can think pretty good for that

 

791

00:23:59,171 --> 00:24:00,105

and we'll send out

 

792

00:24:00,105 --> 00:24:00,972

the milling

 

793

00:24:00,972 --> 00:24:02,641

of those products were phenomenal.

 

794

00:24:02,641 --> 00:24:04,843

And so I think a lot of American mills

 

795

00:24:04,843 --> 00:24:05,444

changed their

 

796

00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:06,478

their their knives

 

797

00:24:06,478 --> 00:24:07,779

and everything and started

 

798

00:24:07,779 --> 00:24:09,514

milling the floors better.

 

799

00:24:09,514 --> 00:24:10,949

And the milling is way

 

800

00:24:10,949 --> 00:24:12,818

better than it ever has been.

 

801

00:24:12,818 --> 00:24:13,618

And

 

802

00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:16,521

so I think that's changed as well.

 

803

00:24:16,521 --> 00:24:18,056

That's why the old days of machines

 

804

00:24:18,056 --> 00:24:19,791

were set up the way they were set up

 

805

00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:21,393

to go heavy to one side.

 

806

00:24:21,393 --> 00:24:22,794

Yeah, every cut, further cut.

 

807

00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:24,029

And we're going to talk about that

 

808

00:24:24,029 --> 00:24:26,231

in another podcast. Absolutely.

 

809

00:24:28,099 --> 00:24:28,767

Oh, another

 

810

00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:32,370

one of mine. This one.

 

811

00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:34,673

This one makes me sick.

 

812

00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:35,907

How many places I use?

 

813

00:24:35,907 --> 00:24:38,343

Liquid nails and Elmer's glue

 

814

00:24:39,511 --> 00:24:41,480

or starter Rose Tread

 

815

00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,282

close out, rose molding.

 

816

00:24:44,783 --> 00:24:47,285

Oh, man, I just can't believe it.

 

817

00:24:47,285 --> 00:24:48,153

Yeah,

 

818

00:24:49,421 --> 00:24:49,955

I.

 

819

00:24:49,955 --> 00:24:50,522

Well, Liquid

 

820

00:24:50,522 --> 00:24:52,524

Nails has no place in this industry.

 

821

00:24:52,524 --> 00:24:53,425

It just doesn't.

 

822

00:24:53,425 --> 00:24:55,627

I mean, we, you know, well,

 

823

00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:57,562

we want to call out

 

824

00:24:57,562 --> 00:24:59,598

manufacturers by my name, but

 

825

00:25:00,432 --> 00:25:02,534

I'll always say something.

 

826

00:25:02,701 --> 00:25:05,237

We make a product called Vertical now,

 

827

00:25:05,237 --> 00:25:07,472

and I will give you your money back

 

828

00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:08,406

if you try it

 

829

00:25:08,406 --> 00:25:09,641

and don't like it on this one.

 

830

00:25:09,641 --> 00:25:11,743

On this one, one scenario

 

831

00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:13,411

for the first board

 

832

00:25:13,411 --> 00:25:14,045

you put down,

 

833

00:25:14,045 --> 00:25:15,313

you install the first board,

 

834

00:25:15,313 --> 00:25:17,115

it is phenomenal

 

835

00:25:17,115 --> 00:25:19,484

when you use bone a vertical

 

836

00:25:20,151 --> 00:25:21,853

and then put it down on that first road

 

837

00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:23,889

and you try to clean the first board

 

838

00:25:23,889 --> 00:25:25,624

and then wait about ten, 15 minutes

 

839

00:25:25,624 --> 00:25:25,957

or whatever

 

840

00:25:25,957 --> 00:25:27,125

and see how rock hard that is

 

841

00:25:27,125 --> 00:25:28,493

that you can start kicking off of.

 

842

00:25:28,493 --> 00:25:30,662

And this is fantastic.

 

843

00:25:30,662 --> 00:25:31,296

Fantastic.

 

844

00:25:31,296 --> 00:25:31,963

I would not

 

845

00:25:31,963 --> 00:25:34,032

I mean, I told my brother John this,

 

846

00:25:34,032 --> 00:25:34,900

I would not leave

 

847

00:25:35,934 --> 00:25:37,035

the the

 

848

00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:37,769

warehouse again

 

849

00:25:37,769 --> 00:25:39,571

without having some with me

 

850

00:25:39,571 --> 00:25:40,205

because it works.

 

851

00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:42,474

Just I've never seen one work better.

 

852

00:25:42,474 --> 00:25:43,441

I'll say that

 

853

00:25:43,441 --> 00:25:44,976

cost a little bit more sometimes.

 

854

00:25:44,976 --> 00:25:46,811

But man the what,

 

855

00:25:46,811 --> 00:25:48,113

what you'll get in return

 

856

00:25:48,113 --> 00:25:52,284

is yes, it's a fantastic product.

 

857

00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:53,818

We did a school where we did

 

858

00:25:53,818 --> 00:25:55,520

the flow launch a couple of weeks ago

 

859

00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,155

and then last in New Jersey.

 

860

00:25:57,155 --> 00:25:58,590

And then last week

 

861

00:25:58,590 --> 00:26:01,092

I had another class there and

 

862

00:26:02,494 --> 00:26:05,163

Jeff Alfredo built that

 

863

00:26:05,163 --> 00:26:07,699

that wall, that little wall

 

864

00:26:07,699 --> 00:26:10,802

that I think with a three by four wall.

 

865

00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:11,870

Yeah.

 

866

00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:14,372

And we threw a couple of

 

867

00:26:14,372 --> 00:26:15,540

competitors.

 

868

00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:17,475

It is, is up there

 

869

00:26:17,475 --> 00:26:19,678

for a vertical you know for doing a wall.

 

870

00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:22,480

And then we threw ours up.

 

871

00:26:22,847 --> 00:26:23,982

It was unbelievable.

 

872

00:26:23,982 --> 00:26:26,051

I mean, there really is no

 

873

00:26:26,051 --> 00:26:27,786

I was pretty shocked how it was.

 

874

00:26:27,786 --> 00:26:28,620

Just the other two

 

875

00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:30,655

were just running and falling off. And

 

876

00:26:31,623 --> 00:26:32,090

I was just

 

877

00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:34,659

about to say in your adhesive, just

 

878

00:26:34,659 --> 00:26:36,094

it never moved.

 

879

00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:38,663

But I guess not your director.

 

880

00:26:38,663 --> 00:26:40,332

I can call it your adhesive.

 

881

00:26:40,332 --> 00:26:45,570

Your vertical never moved.

 

882

00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:47,305

We put one up

 

883

00:26:47,305 --> 00:26:48,673

and I thought, well, it,

 

884

00:26:48,673 --> 00:26:50,208

it tilted really good too.

 

885

00:26:50,208 --> 00:26:51,109

So maybe this

 

886

00:26:51,109 --> 00:26:52,410

not going to be so impressive.

 

887

00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:54,846

But then I try to, I bumped a little bit.

 

888

00:26:54,913 --> 00:26:57,148

It just immediately fell right off.

 

889

00:26:57,916 --> 00:27:00,085

So yeah, it, it is a winner.

 

890

00:27:00,085 --> 00:27:00,986

It doesn't sag.

 

891

00:27:00,986 --> 00:27:01,753

I mean, it's

 

892

00:27:01,753 --> 00:27:03,355

yeah, I agree with you that

 

893

00:27:03,355 --> 00:27:05,223

the technology there is

 

894

00:27:05,223 --> 00:27:06,791

light years ahead of what it was.

 

895

00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:08,793

But that little demo right there,

 

896

00:27:08,793 --> 00:27:10,929

that's the way to demo that stuff.

 

897

00:27:10,929 --> 00:27:11,730

Mm.

 

898

00:27:11,896 --> 00:27:13,498

That is definitely the way to demo

 

899

00:27:13,498 --> 00:27:16,067

that stuff. Yep.

 

900

00:27:16,067 --> 00:27:17,135

So yeah there's are some things

 

901

00:27:17,135 --> 00:27:18,103

that, that,

 

902

00:27:18,536 --> 00:27:21,006

that, that I changed over the years.

 

903

00:27:21,006 --> 00:27:23,508

But I got a question for you, Rob.

 

904

00:27:23,508 --> 00:27:25,343

Say you're on the job

 

905

00:27:25,343 --> 00:27:27,812

and see it's 2500 square feet.

 

906

00:27:28,213 --> 00:27:29,414

Okay, you're doing it by yourself.

 

907

00:27:30,415 --> 00:27:32,117

And do you

 

908

00:27:32,117 --> 00:27:32,717

would you go

 

909

00:27:32,717 --> 00:27:33,451

through and sand

 

910

00:27:33,451 --> 00:27:35,153

the entire floor first with a big machine

 

911

00:27:35,153 --> 00:27:37,022

and get all that done first

 

912

00:27:37,022 --> 00:27:39,257

and then move on to do all the edging

 

913

00:27:39,257 --> 00:27:40,692

and then move on to do all the hand.

 

914

00:27:40,692 --> 00:27:40,925

Great.

 

915

00:27:40,925 --> 00:27:43,261

How would you break that up?

 

916

00:27:43,261 --> 00:27:45,997

I would do all of one

 

917

00:27:45,997 --> 00:27:47,432

and then all of the edging.

 

918

00:27:47,432 --> 00:27:49,434

Yeah, I wouldn't go.

 

919

00:27:50,035 --> 00:27:50,402

I know.

 

920

00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:51,836

That's exact opposite of what

 

921

00:27:51,836 --> 00:27:53,338

my son does.

 

922

00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:55,140

My son will drum a couple of rooms,

 

923

00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:56,875

jump back edge,

 

924

00:27:56,875 --> 00:27:57,542

then he'll go

 

925

00:27:57,542 --> 00:27:58,943

and he'll drum some more rooms.

 

926

00:27:58,943 --> 00:28:01,046

TRUMP Jump back and edge.

 

927

00:28:01,046 --> 00:28:01,813

The few jobs

 

928

00:28:01,813 --> 00:28:03,648

that I did where I had to be alone.

 

929

00:28:03,648 --> 00:28:05,316

Oh God, I hated that.

 

930

00:28:05,316 --> 00:28:07,585

But I would do all the drumming

 

931

00:28:07,585 --> 00:28:09,988

and then jump back and do the edging.

 

932

00:28:09,988 --> 00:28:12,257

Mm hmm. Wow.

 

933

00:28:12,290 --> 00:28:14,092

You know, no way.

 

934

00:28:14,092 --> 00:28:15,660

I would not do that.

 

935

00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:17,495

Complete opposite, complete opposite.

 

936

00:28:18,663 --> 00:28:19,531

And, you know,

 

937

00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:20,065

I don't know

 

938

00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:21,833

what would make them, you know,

 

939

00:28:21,833 --> 00:28:22,867

productivity wise,

 

940

00:28:22,867 --> 00:28:24,903

what's what makes the most sense.

 

941

00:28:24,903 --> 00:28:26,638

But I wouldn't leave a day

 

942

00:28:26,638 --> 00:28:27,572

for me of all

 

943

00:28:27,572 --> 00:28:28,373

edging or a day

 

944

00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:29,340

of all the scraping

 

945

00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:30,942

in, in the oscillating,

 

946

00:28:30,942 --> 00:28:32,143

the edges or anything like that.

 

947

00:28:32,143 --> 00:28:35,013

I would prefer to just

 

948

00:28:35,013 --> 00:28:35,880

get one room

 

949

00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,614

pretty much done

 

950

00:28:36,614 --> 00:28:38,817

and move on to the next one

 

951

00:28:38,817 --> 00:28:39,417

to a point,

 

952

00:28:39,417 --> 00:28:39,718

you know,

 

953

00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:40,218

depending on the

 

954

00:28:40,218 --> 00:28:43,421

square footage of the job,

 

955

00:28:43,421 --> 00:28:44,022

what would you say

 

956

00:28:44,022 --> 00:28:44,456

if you had

 

957

00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:46,057

if you were partners with a guy?

 

958

00:28:46,057 --> 00:28:48,393

And he says, Wait, I'll go there on

 

959

00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,761

I can't work Saturday,

 

960

00:28:49,761 --> 00:28:51,396

but I'll get I'll get there on Friday

 

961

00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:52,497

and then I'm going to I'll,

 

962

00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:54,566

I'll work all day Friday

 

963

00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:56,101

and then when you get there,

 

964

00:28:56,101 --> 00:28:58,236

he did all the big machine work, all

 

965

00:28:58,236 --> 00:29:00,572

of it and he left you with

 

966

00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,308

the stairs, the hand

 

967

00:29:03,308 --> 00:29:05,210

sanding in the

 

968

00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:05,643

not hands

 

969

00:29:05,643 --> 00:29:06,745

anyway, with the icing sanding

 

970

00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:07,812

and the hooking.

 

971

00:29:08,179 --> 00:29:08,513

Well,

 

972

00:29:08,513 --> 00:29:10,081

I don't know if you should ask me that,

 

973

00:29:10,081 --> 00:29:11,349

but maybe we can ask

 

974

00:29:11,349 --> 00:29:12,817

my old partner, Pete.

 

975

00:29:12,817 --> 00:29:14,219

That'd be a great.

 

976

00:29:14,652 --> 00:29:15,754

That'd be a great question.

 

977

00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:18,423

Ask Peter. Yeah.

 

978

00:29:18,423 --> 00:29:20,492

So you'd be okay with a guy

 

979

00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:21,059

like, you know,

 

980

00:29:21,059 --> 00:29:22,327

you guys got to get this job

 

981

00:29:22,327 --> 00:29:23,094

done together.

 

982

00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:24,395

And the first day he goes in there

 

983

00:29:24,395 --> 00:29:25,730

and he spends the entire day

 

984

00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:27,432

just running the big machine.

 

985

00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:28,700

You'd be okay with that?

 

986

00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:29,701

Yeah. Yeah.

 

987

00:29:29,701 --> 00:29:30,235

Matter of fact,

 

988

00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:32,370

I remember distinctly one day

 

989

00:29:32,837 --> 00:29:34,272

I think I had made I was

 

990

00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:35,673

I might have been even

 

991

00:29:35,673 --> 00:29:37,475

starting a third cup

 

992

00:29:37,475 --> 00:29:39,210

with the big machine.

 

993

00:29:39,210 --> 00:29:40,745

And he came in

 

994

00:29:40,745 --> 00:29:42,213

because he was doing something else

 

995

00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:42,981

or wherever he was.

 

996

00:29:42,981 --> 00:29:43,815

And he was like,

 

997

00:29:43,815 --> 00:29:46,451

So were you ever going to run the edger

 

998

00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:47,452

or are you just going to keep a

 

999

00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:48,720

big machine and right,

 

1000

00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,888

right to the very end?

 

1001

00:29:49,888 --> 00:29:52,157

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

1002

00:29:52,157 --> 00:29:53,525

We should have Pete on the show

 

1003

00:29:53,525 --> 00:29:56,261

or bump just to ask them.

 

1004

00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:58,663

What do you think when Rob

 

1005

00:29:58,663 --> 00:30:00,064

did that or your dad did that?

 

1006

00:30:00,064 --> 00:30:01,599

Yeah.

 

1007

00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:04,369

I mean, you don't think that's a problem?

 

1008

00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:06,237

Not for me.

 

1009

00:30:06,237 --> 00:30:07,105

Yeah, but I say

 

1010

00:30:07,105 --> 00:30:08,773

if you were the other guy.

 

1011

00:30:08,773 --> 00:30:11,209

I mean, I admit I came clean.

 

1012

00:30:12,043 --> 00:30:13,378

Yeah, so, you know, it's not right.

 

1013

00:30:13,378 --> 00:30:14,112

You say you admitted it.

 

1014

00:30:14,112 --> 00:30:17,081

That's not the right thing to do.

 

1015

00:30:17,081 --> 00:30:17,816

All right.

 

1016

00:30:17,982 --> 00:30:20,685

But I did it.

 

1017

00:30:20,685 --> 00:30:23,688

It don't make it right.

 

1018

00:30:23,688 --> 00:30:25,256

I'm not saying I was right.

 

1019

00:30:25,256 --> 00:30:26,624

I'm just saying.

 

1020

00:30:26,624 --> 00:30:29,027

What would you think of a guy?

 

1021

00:30:29,093 --> 00:30:31,329

Okay, I think he's was pretty smart.

 

1022

00:30:31,396 --> 00:30:33,198

Yeah. Oh, that's a bad word.

 

1023

00:30:33,198 --> 00:30:35,066

Don't use that word, scumbag.

 

1024

00:30:35,066 --> 00:30:36,801

Yeah, that's a bad you get.

 

1025

00:30:36,801 --> 00:30:39,537

So that's a that's offensive.

 

1026

00:30:39,537 --> 00:30:40,605

But but you.

 

1027

00:30:40,605 --> 00:30:41,673

Going in there doing that.

 

1028

00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:43,474

Whole thing that's not offensive.

 

1029

00:30:43,474 --> 00:30:44,943

Try to go dirtbag

 

1030

00:30:44,943 --> 00:30:46,911

or a terrible thing to do whatever

 

1031

00:30:46,911 --> 00:30:48,346

stay away from the.

 

1032

00:30:49,547 --> 00:30:51,850

Yeah my father in law heard me

 

1033

00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:55,220

say that one day and he pulled me aside

 

1034

00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:58,723

and told me what that really meant.

 

1035

00:30:58,723 --> 00:31:00,325

And ever since that day,

 

1036

00:31:00,325 --> 00:31:01,960

I was like, okay,

 

1037

00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,962

if it was enough to piss him off,

 

1038

00:31:03,962 --> 00:31:05,964

I am never going to use that word again.

 

1039

00:31:06,397 --> 00:31:07,298

You know what?

 

1040

00:31:07,298 --> 00:31:08,233

Don't say piss me off.

 

1041

00:31:08,233 --> 00:31:09,434

Piss him off

 

1042

00:31:09,434 --> 00:31:13,171

because that's offensive to me.

 

1043

00:31:13,171 --> 00:31:14,639

I don't know what scumbag means

 

1044

00:31:14,639 --> 00:31:16,407

other than dirtbag.

 

1045

00:31:16,407 --> 00:31:18,543

I'll explain it to you later.

 

1046

00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:21,212

You just made it 2 to 2. Weird.

 

1047

00:31:21,212 --> 00:31:22,747

Now. No, I can't.

 

1048

00:31:22,747 --> 00:31:23,648

Wait to see you later.

 

1049

00:31:23,648 --> 00:31:25,683

We can't talk about it on the show

 

1050

00:31:25,683 --> 00:31:26,684

like it.

 

1051

00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:27,752

I know there's a lot of people

 

1052

00:31:27,752 --> 00:31:29,654

that throw that word around.

 

1053

00:31:29,654 --> 00:31:29,954

I'll.

 

1054

00:31:29,954 --> 00:31:32,023

I'll explain it to you later.

 

1055

00:31:32,023 --> 00:31:32,657

I mean, what?

 

1056

00:31:32,657 --> 00:31:34,192

I mean, I want to know what

 

1057

00:31:34,192 --> 00:31:34,859

what it means.

 

1058

00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:36,661

You know what it means.

 

1059

00:31:36,661 --> 00:31:38,630

I mean I mean, look, it happened,

 

1060

00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:39,097

you know.

 

1061

00:31:39,097 --> 00:31:40,899

Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.

 

1062

00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,134

Not in the shower. Oh, no, I got it.

 

1063

00:31:43,134 --> 00:31:45,270

It means a guy that will go in

 

1064

00:31:45,270 --> 00:31:46,170

with a sander

 

1065

00:31:46,170 --> 00:31:46,838

in sand

 

1066

00:31:46,838 --> 00:31:47,972

the entire job

 

1067

00:31:47,972 --> 00:31:48,973

without getting off

 

1068

00:31:48,973 --> 00:31:50,475

is on his knees

 

1069

00:31:50,475 --> 00:31:52,844

and edging when it's appropriate to edge.

 

1070

00:31:53,611 --> 00:31:57,515

Okay, that's me.

 

1071

00:31:57,515 --> 00:32:00,385

Okay. That's it.

 

1072

00:32:00,385 --> 00:32:01,653

Okay.

 

1073

00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:04,622

Uh, you know, another one,

 

1074

00:32:04,622 --> 00:32:06,357

another big one

 

1075

00:32:06,357 --> 00:32:09,360

that I've completely changed on respect

 

1076

00:32:09,661 --> 00:32:11,963

dry times and cure times.

 

1077

00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:14,532

Mm.

 

1078

00:32:14,532 --> 00:32:18,336

It's amazing how many tacky floors that

 

1079

00:32:18,336 --> 00:32:21,439

I screened or floors that I knew

 

1080

00:32:21,439 --> 00:32:23,875

just weren't ready. Just because.

 

1081

00:32:24,409 --> 00:32:25,009

And it goes

 

1082

00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:28,046

with another one of Slow down,

 

1083

00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:28,713

my God,

 

1084

00:32:28,713 --> 00:32:29,614

it was everything

 

1085

00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:31,849

we did back in the old days.

 

1086

00:32:31,849 --> 00:32:34,018

We were just constantly rushing.

 

1087

00:32:34,018 --> 00:32:35,453

It was just

 

1088

00:32:35,653 --> 00:32:38,323

everything was about the speed.

 

1089

00:32:38,323 --> 00:32:40,558

And part of that was not respecting

 

1090

00:32:40,558 --> 00:32:43,895

dry and cure times on products.

 

1091

00:32:43,895 --> 00:32:46,197

You know, I was pretty good about that.

 

1092

00:32:46,197 --> 00:32:47,298

But there are times, too

 

1093

00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:48,700

that I rolled the dice

 

1094

00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:50,702

and I wasn't at the time saying,

 

1095

00:32:50,702 --> 00:32:52,070

Well, yeah,

 

1096

00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:52,637

I had to know

 

1097

00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:53,972

I was rolling the dice a little bit.

 

1098

00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:55,206

You know, you weighed the odds

 

1099

00:32:55,206 --> 00:32:56,674

and you think to yourself

 

1100

00:32:56,674 --> 00:32:59,077

and you try to talk yourself into that,

 

1101

00:32:59,077 --> 00:32:59,711

Oh, it's dry.

 

1102

00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:00,445

I should be dry.

 

1103

00:33:00,445 --> 00:33:00,678

You know,

 

1104

00:33:00,678 --> 00:33:01,813

we did everything by the book

 

1105

00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:03,681

and should be dry, blah, blah, blah.

 

1106

00:33:03,681 --> 00:33:05,683

But in your heart of hearts, you know,

 

1107

00:33:05,683 --> 00:33:07,618

it smells a little bit too strong

 

1108

00:33:08,619 --> 00:33:09,354

under your foot.

 

1109

00:33:09,354 --> 00:33:10,621

It feels a little bit

 

1110

00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:12,123

the little bit tacky

 

1111

00:33:12,123 --> 00:33:13,791

if you you know what I mean?

 

1112

00:33:13,791 --> 00:33:15,126

You know, you put the write down.

 

1113

00:33:15,126 --> 00:33:16,694

If you can't

 

1114

00:33:16,694 --> 00:33:18,463

if you can't wear your shoes

 

1115

00:33:18,463 --> 00:33:19,597

and you're walking around

 

1116

00:33:19,597 --> 00:33:20,898

the edge of the floor,

 

1117

00:33:20,898 --> 00:33:22,233

not to make footprints

 

1118

00:33:22,233 --> 00:33:24,068

that people can see,

 

1119

00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:26,170

then maybe you shouldn't be on the floor.

 

1120

00:33:26,571 --> 00:33:28,439

Well, no,

 

1121

00:33:28,439 --> 00:33:30,842

except for the the one last thing.

 

1122

00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:33,344

It kind of thinking about where we do

 

1123

00:33:33,344 --> 00:33:35,013

our podcast today.

 

1124

00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:36,114

You know,

 

1125

00:33:37,081 --> 00:33:38,883

it seems like every time in my career

 

1126

00:33:38,883 --> 00:33:39,617

that I,

 

1127

00:33:39,617 --> 00:33:41,519

I threw something out,

 

1128

00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:41,786

you know,

 

1129

00:33:41,786 --> 00:33:42,653

like I've been sitting

 

1130

00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:43,588

on this feature strip

 

1131

00:33:43,588 --> 00:33:45,189

for, for a long time now.

 

1132

00:33:45,189 --> 00:33:47,025

It's been a year and a half, two years.

 

1133

00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,393

We've never used it.

 

1134

00:33:48,393 --> 00:33:50,194

I've been sitting on this special

 

1135

00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:52,163

cut of wood that, you know what?

 

1136

00:33:52,163 --> 00:33:53,731

It was a special custom job.

 

1137

00:33:53,731 --> 00:33:54,766

And it's been years now.

 

1138

00:33:54,766 --> 00:33:56,567

It's taking up space.

 

1139

00:33:56,567 --> 00:33:59,270

You'll never, never need it again

 

1140

00:33:59,270 --> 00:34:00,705

until you throw it out.

 

1141

00:34:00,705 --> 00:34:02,040

Until you throw it away.

 

1142

00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,174

And then when you throw it away,

 

1143

00:34:03,174 --> 00:34:04,275

a certain job will come up

 

1144

00:34:04,275 --> 00:34:05,943

where you could use it and what have you.

 

1145

00:34:05,943 --> 00:34:08,046

So yeah, I'm fine.

 

1146

00:34:08,146 --> 00:34:09,447

Well, you know, the old saying

 

1147

00:34:09,447 --> 00:34:10,148

being a floor

 

1148

00:34:10,148 --> 00:34:10,815

man means

 

1149

00:34:10,815 --> 00:34:13,584

never having to throw anything away.

 

1150

00:34:13,584 --> 00:34:14,085

Yeah.

 

1151

00:34:14,085 --> 00:34:15,787

You mean you're almost like a hoarder

 

1152

00:34:15,787 --> 00:34:16,521

in some ways,

 

1153

00:34:18,423 --> 00:34:19,023

but.

 

1154

00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:22,460

Yeah, I going into some guy's old shops,

 

1155

00:34:23,094 --> 00:34:24,062

you know, guys who were,

 

1156

00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,631

you know, generational type guys.

 

1157

00:34:26,631 --> 00:34:27,632

And there's.

 

1158

00:34:27,632 --> 00:34:30,301

I'll always ask, where's your museum?

 

1159

00:34:30,301 --> 00:34:32,236

Where's your museum?

 

1160

00:34:32,236 --> 00:34:32,937

Where do they keep

 

1161

00:34:32,937 --> 00:34:34,205

all the old equipment stuff?

 

1162

00:34:34,205 --> 00:34:35,640

It's just so funny.

 

1163

00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,975

Some of the pieces of equipment

 

1164

00:34:37,975 --> 00:34:39,644

that you'll see in some of these old

 

1165

00:34:39,644 --> 00:34:40,845

and they

 

1166

00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:42,380

they're never going to use it again,

 

1167

00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:43,781

but they never throw it away.

 

1168

00:34:43,781 --> 00:34:46,117

It's always there.

 

1169

00:34:46,117 --> 00:34:48,152

Eight inch drums with wooden handles.

 

1170

00:34:48,152 --> 00:34:50,121

I mean, just, you know,

 

1171

00:34:50,121 --> 00:34:52,156

chain driven machines.

 

1172

00:34:52,156 --> 00:34:53,624

Crazy stuff.

 

1173

00:34:53,624 --> 00:34:54,292

Yep.

 

1174

00:34:55,493 --> 00:34:55,860

I guess

 

1175

00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:57,361

another one for me, Rob, is as

 

1176

00:34:57,361 --> 00:34:59,197

I would have jumped on a power station

 

1177

00:34:59,197 --> 00:35:01,566

lot earlier in my career

 

1178

00:35:01,566 --> 00:35:03,000

just to make life easier.

 

1179

00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,802

Once we did, it was like this.

 

1180

00:35:04,802 --> 00:35:05,436

One of those things

 

1181

00:35:05,436 --> 00:35:06,471

where when you finally do

 

1182

00:35:06,471 --> 00:35:07,004

it, you think, Guys,

 

1183

00:35:07,004 --> 00:35:08,005

why didn't I just do this

 

1184

00:35:08,005 --> 00:35:09,240

a long time ago?

 

1185

00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,042

It would have made life so much easier.

 

1186

00:35:12,243 --> 00:35:13,077

I sold a power

 

1187

00:35:13,077 --> 00:35:14,879

station one time to somebody

 

1188

00:35:14,879 --> 00:35:17,248

who was a gym contractor.

 

1189

00:35:17,248 --> 00:35:19,150

This wasn't one of ours. The product.

 

1190

00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:19,684

This is one

 

1191

00:35:19,684 --> 00:35:21,285

that was made by a local company.

 

1192

00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:22,420

It was a really, really,

 

1193

00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:24,188

really nice machine.

 

1194

00:35:24,188 --> 00:35:25,323

I got into sales.

 

1195

00:35:25,323 --> 00:35:26,858

I didn't need it anymore.

 

1196

00:35:26,858 --> 00:35:27,959

I did not want to sell it.

 

1197

00:35:27,959 --> 00:35:28,893

I would have it today.

 

1198

00:35:28,893 --> 00:35:30,928

But this guy was in a jam

 

1199

00:35:30,928 --> 00:35:32,763

and I sold to him for a steal.

 

1200

00:35:32,763 --> 00:35:33,498

And he didn't.

 

1201

00:35:33,498 --> 00:35:33,931

He didn't

 

1202

00:35:33,931 --> 00:35:35,266

I don't think he still appreciated

 

1203

00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:36,901

what I was giving him.

 

1204

00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:38,269

And I my only rules.

 

1205

00:35:38,269 --> 00:35:40,204

Look, if you don't anymore,

 

1206

00:35:40,204 --> 00:35:41,439

if you ever go to sell it,

 

1207

00:35:41,439 --> 00:35:42,640

just let me buy it back to you

 

1208

00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,108

for the same price.

 

1209

00:35:44,108 --> 00:35:45,376

And he said, Yeah, okay.

 

1210

00:35:45,376 --> 00:35:46,677

So he has

 

1211

00:35:46,677 --> 00:35:47,044

and I hope he's

 

1212

00:35:47,044 --> 00:35:47,945

getting good use out of it,

 

1213

00:35:47,945 --> 00:35:49,380

but I would never party with that

 

1214

00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:49,814

damn thing.

 

1215

00:35:49,814 --> 00:35:52,083

That was a lifesaver at times.

 

1216

00:35:52,450 --> 00:35:53,584

And so.

 

1217

00:35:54,585 --> 00:35:55,419

Hey, you

 

1218

00:35:55,419 --> 00:35:56,220

know, a little heads

 

1219

00:35:56,220 --> 00:35:57,855

up on running machines

 

1220

00:35:57,855 --> 00:35:59,323

with a power station,

 

1221

00:35:59,323 --> 00:36:02,059

especially when you're going over 100,

 

1222

00:36:02,059 --> 00:36:03,261

150 feet.

 

1223

00:36:03,261 --> 00:36:04,295

You know, sometimes you run

 

1224

00:36:04,295 --> 00:36:07,231

a lot of code, always run

 

1225

00:36:07,999 --> 00:36:09,267

the power station

 

1226

00:36:09,267 --> 00:36:11,135

50 feet away from your machine.

 

1227

00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:14,038

So let's say you got to go 100, 150 feet.

 

1228

00:36:14,906 --> 00:36:17,742

So you'd plug into your box, run

 

1229

00:36:17,742 --> 00:36:19,677

100 feet of cable

 

1230

00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:22,947

into your power station, then boost up

 

1231

00:36:22,947 --> 00:36:24,782

your power or regulate the power

 

1232

00:36:24,782 --> 00:36:26,817

or whatever you need to be up or down.

 

1233

00:36:26,817 --> 00:36:28,986

And then that last 50

 

1234

00:36:28,986 --> 00:36:30,221

goes to the machine.

 

1235

00:36:30,221 --> 00:36:31,822

Too many people

 

1236

00:36:31,822 --> 00:36:33,090

put the power station,

 

1237

00:36:33,090 --> 00:36:33,491

you know,

 

1238

00:36:33,491 --> 00:36:34,759

right under the box, too

 

1239

00:36:34,759 --> 00:36:36,727

close to the power source,

 

1240

00:36:36,727 --> 00:36:39,096

and then there's a lot of draw

 

1241

00:36:39,096 --> 00:36:40,398

heading out to your machine.

 

1242

00:36:40,398 --> 00:36:41,532

So just a heads up.

 

1243

00:36:41,532 --> 00:36:45,036

Always run that machine 50 feet away.

 

1244

00:36:45,036 --> 00:36:45,303

You know,

 

1245

00:36:45,303 --> 00:36:46,904

that last 50 feet

 

1246

00:36:46,904 --> 00:36:48,973

is from power station to the machine.

 

1247

00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:49,907

Yeah.

 

1248

00:36:50,174 --> 00:36:50,808

Good call.

 

1249

00:36:50,808 --> 00:36:52,677

And you just remind me

 

1250

00:36:52,677 --> 00:36:53,811

as you're saying, that just

 

1251

00:36:54,946 --> 00:36:56,814

another thing that I

 

1252

00:36:56,814 --> 00:36:58,049

was always a pain for me

 

1253

00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:00,518

is, is the cable connections

 

1254

00:37:00,518 --> 00:37:02,954

making sure they're all universal, that,

 

1255

00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,621

you know,

 

1256

00:37:03,621 --> 00:37:05,356

every van has got the exact same

 

1257

00:37:05,356 --> 00:37:07,225

cable connections on there.

 

1258

00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:09,193

So if you show up to a job

 

1259

00:37:09,193 --> 00:37:10,561

and you got to get on the guy's edge

 

1260

00:37:10,561 --> 00:37:11,229

or whatever, it

 

1261

00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:13,264

somehow you need a cord or whatever

 

1262

00:37:13,264 --> 00:37:15,066

that they all match up.

 

1263

00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:16,200

I can't tell you one day

 

1264

00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,169

that the meltdown that I had,

 

1265

00:37:18,169 --> 00:37:21,305

that I brought everybody in and said this

 

1266

00:37:21,305 --> 00:37:23,374

I don't give I don't care what it costs.

 

1267

00:37:23,541 --> 00:37:24,709

I want all these connections

 

1268

00:37:24,709 --> 00:37:25,776

to be exactly the same.

 

1269

00:37:25,776 --> 00:37:28,179

Everywhere, everywhere you go, bar none.

 

1270

00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:33,417

Because, yeah, it makes life easier now.

 

1271

00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:35,152

Peter and I had that game

 

1272

00:37:35,152 --> 00:37:37,054

with all of our air tools.

 

1273

00:37:38,055 --> 00:37:38,956

Same.

 

1274

00:37:39,056 --> 00:37:40,291

Yeah, different.

 

1275

00:37:40,291 --> 00:37:42,093

Different fittings on different.

 

1276

00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:43,427

No, that hose orange

 

1277

00:37:43,427 --> 00:37:45,229

hose goes with this gun.

 

1278

00:37:45,229 --> 00:37:46,530

Flacco goes with this

 

1279

00:37:46,530 --> 00:37:47,465

and no he can't plug

 

1280

00:37:47,465 --> 00:37:48,733

that in there and that.

 

1281

00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:50,334

And then finally one day

 

1282

00:37:50,334 --> 00:37:55,373

I said, this is insane what we're doing.

 

1283

00:37:55,373 --> 00:37:56,641

I mean, it's insane.

 

1284

00:37:56,641 --> 00:37:58,276

And I literally took

 

1285

00:37:58,276 --> 00:38:00,344

3 hours out of the day

 

1286

00:38:00,344 --> 00:38:02,680

and everything was because,

 

1287

00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,714

you know, you're trying to finish

 

1288

00:38:03,714 --> 00:38:03,914

and you're

 

1289

00:38:03,914 --> 00:38:05,349

switching guns like that

 

1290

00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:05,950

and you're like, oh,

 

1291

00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:08,252

no, I can't use this. I got to. Yeah.

 

1292

00:38:08,252 --> 00:38:10,788

And just felt a little yeah.

 

1293

00:38:11,022 --> 00:38:13,991

Yeah that we can do, we can do better.

 

1294

00:38:13,991 --> 00:38:14,392

I thought.

 

1295

00:38:14,392 --> 00:38:15,526

Yeah, yeah.

 

1296

00:38:15,526 --> 00:38:17,161

The craziness.

 

1297

00:38:17,795 --> 00:38:18,229

All right.

 

1298

00:38:18,229 --> 00:38:19,430

I became more.

 

1299

00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:21,032

Now let's wrap it up. Good stuff.

 

1300

00:38:21,032 --> 00:38:22,466

All right. I appreciate it, Rob.

 

1301

00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:23,234

Thank you very much.

 

1302

00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:24,001

There's some great tips

 

1303

00:38:24,001 --> 00:38:24,969

and there's a good tip

 

1304

00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:26,337

on the power power station.

 

1305

00:38:26,337 --> 00:38:27,405

I forgot about that one.

 

1306

00:38:27,405 --> 00:38:28,973

So that's a good one.

 

1307

00:38:28,973 --> 00:38:30,708

So there you go.

 

1308

00:38:30,708 --> 00:38:31,742

There's been another episode

 

1309

00:38:31,742 --> 00:38:33,911

of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

1310

00:38:33,911 --> 00:38:36,580

I'm Wayne.

 

1311

00:38:36,580 --> 00:38:38,582

Please stay tuned for another episode.

 

1312

00:38:38,582 --> 00:38:40,651

Let's try that one again.

 

1313

00:38:40,951 --> 00:38:41,319

All right,

 

1314

00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:45,256

Rob, thank you for your limited input.

 

1315

00:38:45,256 --> 00:38:46,657

This has been another episode

 

1316

00:38:46,657 --> 00:38:48,292

of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

1317

00:38:48,292 --> 00:38:50,695

Please stay tuned for another episode.

 

1318

00:38:50,695 --> 00:38:51,696

See how much better you do

 

1319

00:38:51,696 --> 00:38:53,331

when you throw a little insult in there.

 

1320

00:38:53,331 --> 00:38:54,632

Yeah, yeah.

 

1321

00:38:54,632 --> 00:39:01,939

That's what you make of that.