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Hello.
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This is another episode of On the Floor
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with Wayne and Rob
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Wayne and Andrew Drake.
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Your cells are bone adhesives.
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And I'm Rob Johnson
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from the owner training.
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It looks like you forgot
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what we're doing there for a
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I just had a bunch of things
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coming in at the same time.
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Yeah.
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Dale Good. Rob
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It, isn't it?
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Damn right
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keep going with this.
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The second part of the part
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one of our series
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on the value of education I like it.
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This is going to be as welcome
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as a rattlesnake in a square dance.
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was that a farmer or a cowboy?
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No, sir.
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You cut on.
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I'm on cowboy quotes now,
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and I know you're
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you're you're a big cowboy fan.
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No, no.
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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What you like about cowboys, Rob
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me?
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slobs I've ever seen in my life.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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yeah, Yeah.
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no.
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Yeah.
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Yeah,
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yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Them clowns are amazing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah,
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yeah,
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Well, you know what
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I've always
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said, Rob, is there's never
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there never was a horse
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that couldn't be rode,
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and there was never a cowboy
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that couldn't be throwed.
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I know you always say
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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You should buy a.
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Sure.
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Don't sweat with your spurs on.
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right.
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See?
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Yeah,
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yeah, yeah.
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Good stuff.
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Yeah, I.
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We want to quote.
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Okay, I'll give you a quote.
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The horse is a mirror to your soul.
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And sometimes you may not
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look what you see in the mirror.
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That's from a horse trainer.
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I'll tell you
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how I like.
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I like horses, but I don't trust horses.
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I have been to a lot of horse.
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Yeah, I have
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her.
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No kidding.
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Yeah, I, I Judy and I,
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there's.
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There's this guy
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that he pulled at the park somewhere.
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I can remember his card, and he. You can.
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He takes you, like,
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horseback riding up into the mountains.
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So we said, okay, well, we'll do that.
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And we thought
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there's going to be like ten of us.
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But it was just me and Judy.
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And and we met off some clan plane
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and what do you call it, Clan design
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area out in the middle of.
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So I don't know.
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I mean, he sure is his own property.
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And he had a trailer there
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and he had two horses.
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He had his own horse.
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And so we met him there
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and he's like all kinds of hillbilly man.
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I mean, I mean, just like
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we didn't have sign a waivers
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you know what I mean? We just.
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He had two horses. Yes.
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Did you have a ride before?
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We said no.
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I lines that I rode a little bit
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because you know
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I'm a man and said, is it okay?
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So you go you can go first.
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And the moment he goes,
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you know, at
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one point we're going to go up
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the side of this mountain
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in a single file.
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Is it all right?
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So we doing that? Well,
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our horses were walking on boulders
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like like bigger than softball size
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rocks, right.
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And to our right was a cliff
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and like,
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we would have to go between
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between trees.
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brought her to were her side of her legs
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just squeezed into that tree like,
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you know,
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she ran that
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she ran her leg into that tree.
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It's one of the ways.
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And then the horse was
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the horse would stumble once in a while,
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and then that will lose
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its death right there.
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You know what I mean?
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We never rode before,
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so we finally get to the top
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and it evens out, right?
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And now we're seeing other
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few other horseback riders up there.
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And there's like a hitching post
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because we want
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we can stop here and go out,
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look at the view and everything.
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I said, okay, cool.
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So my horse goes up to the Hitching Post.
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I go to get off my horse
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and the saddle slides off
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as I'm trying to
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as I throw my leg over
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and I'm
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still in the saddle in the saddles
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underneath the horse
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now and I'm falling off
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into a puddle.
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Okay,
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there was a part of me
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that when we got up there
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that there's other horse riders,
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it wouldn't know that we're beginners,
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like we're all horse riders, right?
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But when you go to get out the horse
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and the horse saddle slides
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off the side of the horse
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and you come with it on to the ground.
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It's a bad look. Now I'm,
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I'm pissed, right?
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So he says,
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yeah.
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You know, sometimes, you know, when they,
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when they come up that hill, they,
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they work up a pretty good sweat
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and they lose some weight and everything.
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And so saddle sometimes he be readjusted.
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I mean, that sounds like B.S.
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one, you know?
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And also, come on, man,
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that doesn't happen to other people,
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you know what I mean?
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So anyhow,
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and on a way down, Judy's horse took off,
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scared the hell out of her.
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So it was a bad experience.
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And I don't
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I sound like a sissy,
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but it hurt dog very, very bad today.
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So anyhow, I'm not.
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Yes, I.
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If you have the right horse
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and you ride a horse
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for like for like four or 5 hours,
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your legs hurt the next day walking
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again.
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Don't I sound like a sissy, but
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just keep it a real.
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Come on, man.
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You've sanded floors, run jackhammers.
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Nobody's ever going to accuse you
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of being a Okay. Thanks.
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You're welcome
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But as the Cowboys say,
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if you climb into the Sally, be ready.
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Be ready for the ride.
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He ready to be spun over backwards
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Yeah, We got her up
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upside down.
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No, I couldn't get my foot out.
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The stirrup.
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I mean, that's his fault.
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It's not my fault.
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I didn't put the saddle on.
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So now you'd be ready for that.
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If a plane ever.
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If you're on a plane, it flips over
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like I've been here Yeah, exactly.
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A peacock today,
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a feather duster tomorrow.
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Okay.
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A peacock today.
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A feather duster tomorrow.
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And this, this stark transformation
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warns us about getting too
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caught up in our successes
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or becoming overly arrogant.
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man is ever so true
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in the flooring business.
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Man, you still got to.
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You you always got to do the basics
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and what have you.
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And I remember, you know, on some jobs
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you get done with the job
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you look at,
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you walk in there
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and you go, Man, I am amazing.
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I mean, I mean,
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I just don't get no better than this.
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I mean, there's perfect.
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And then you go out to a job
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and whatever it is, something goes wrong.
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You know what I mean?
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This trade is very humbling.
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So I do like that expression.
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Don't get too full of yourself.
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Peacock today.
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A feather duster tomorrow.
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I think I can remember that one.
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All right?
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Okay.
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Right.
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Wayne, back to hands on training.
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You know, people, everyone learns that
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at their own pace.
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You know, it's different for
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So my teacher
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used to tell me
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is that she was consoling me.
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Yes,
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allows that. Okay.
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It truly helps
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with the retention of new skills
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because we can,
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you know,
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keep up or take more time with people.
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And,
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you know, one of the things that I'll do
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when we put like
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for instance,
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when we put the big machine
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away, especially for guys
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who are new to the big machine,
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now I'll go to guys individually
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and say, Hey, you know,
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I know you had a good day and a half.
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Do you want
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you want me to set you up
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on another panel
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and take a few more runs
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it now that you've
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had two nights of sleep thinking about it
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and you'd be shocked
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how many times guys really want it.
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Yeah. Let me take another swing at this.
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So like I said, some people,
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you know,
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they just learn at different rates
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and hands on training
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can really help that,
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you know, I'll tell you something.
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I'm not really super,
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super mechanically inclined.
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I am I struggle with with, you know,
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that kind of stuff.
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So I'm not going to be
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the first to learn.
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I'm not going to be
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the first to grasp something.
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I know that of myself.
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Over the years, I've kind of figured it.
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It takes me while like you take it
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any or something like that,
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it seems to be able to bump.
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They're just born with it.
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They can just figure it out,
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look at it, figure it out, and boom,
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they're on their way.
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I'm not that guy.
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It takes me.
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I will eventually get there and I will.
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I will work at it so hard
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that I will be on a level
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that I'm happy with.
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But it it
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you know, when we grew up,
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we didn't have there's
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no mechanics in our family.
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I remember one crescent ridge growing up,
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a great big crescent. Right.
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And we kept it under the front seat
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in case of, you know, like half
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that was
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that was the extent of our tools
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and I think in our family.
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So, you know, it wasn't
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second nature to me to do this,
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but I wanted to be whatever
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I wanted to do,
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I wanted to be good at it.
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So while I may
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not be the first guy to get it,
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it may take me longer.
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I will absolutely shine in the end,
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just out of persistence of it.
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So, yeah, I mean, at the schools,
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that's again,
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you know,
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you kind of learn things
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at your own pace.
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You can kind of take,
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you know, you can take an idiot all day
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and go off into another area.
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And, you know, we've had people do that.
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Look, I'm really I'm really here
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because I just having a hard time
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doing a certain thing
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and we give them our input or whatever
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and say, here, just go
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knock yourself out, man.
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And maybe you don't need to do this
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other stuff.
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Maybe this is all
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you need to get out of this.
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And they get they're thrilled for it.
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So it's good.
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to kick back on
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what you were just saying here,
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I think a floor guy, one floor.
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Sanders more than anybody will attempt
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just about anything, you know,
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I mean, I do in my own house,
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plumbing,
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I've done some really screwed up jobs
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with plumbing.
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I'm still learning plumbing, but it's,
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you know, our craft.
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We're electricians.
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All right,
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If you want to keep the machine going,
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if something breaks down, how many times
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are you taking an edge apart?
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Nobody ever taught you how to
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take an edge apart.
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Put it back together.
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But you do what you got to do to keep it
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Yep, Yep,
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yep,
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yep.
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Yeah.
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you know, the more you do
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it, the more comfortable
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you get with everything.
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So I think a lot of us,
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you know, it just
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drives Pauline crazy
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when I start doing electrical stuff.
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And she'll always point to that
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Christmas ornament
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that I sent you, the picture of.
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When you when you first
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started talking about this,
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I thought you going a different direction
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when you said guys
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will do anything in this trade
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or whatever.
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I think there's two camps
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of flooring guys in the industry.
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There's one camp
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that don't change anything.
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They, they stand up,
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finish floor
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the same way
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every time they don't veer off of that.
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That is the way to do it.
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They're not going to change
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and blah, blah, blah.
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And then there's the experimenter,
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the guy that wants that,
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that's always looking for another way,
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another trying to get it better,
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trying to get it faster.
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You're trying to do something different
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or they're creative
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or they're just they're
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they're bored of doing it.
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Certain ways
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and they want to try something different.
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I have two brothers that are, I'd say,
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in that first camp,
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and I put myself in the second camp.
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Now, Doug and John do everything.
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What they do,
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they do perfect,
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but they do it exactly
430
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the same way every time.
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Every time. Every time.
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Now, the only thing that's changed
433
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and significant in their last ten years,
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their career, is the power drive.
435
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When they get on the power
436
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as the first thing they change,
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they don't really only see
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significant sanding.
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They've they've done
440
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their sanding is immaculate,
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but it is it's by the book.
442
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Perfect.
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I mean, every step is the same step
444
00:17:18,904 --> 00:17:20,706
they do every time they do that.
445
00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:22,875
I was always wanting to see
446
00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:24,376
maybe we don't have the best way.
447
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Maybe there's a different way.
448
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I benefited from them.
449
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They benefited from me
450
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because I benefited
451
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from their steadiness of of.
452
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No, I mean, we this is the course
453
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and we always go down this course.
454
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It never fails us.
455
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I benefited from them.
456
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They benefitted from me.
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Is that I think you do have to look
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and see what's new out there
459
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and you do have to see
460
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what's you know, what, what and see.
461
00:17:46,665 --> 00:17:48,600
You can't just follow whatever
462
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whatever
463
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the hottest trend in or whatever.
464
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You have to have something behind it.
465
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But I think there is a merit
466
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to both of them.
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So
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cows don't give milk.
469
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You have to take it from them.
470
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Okay.
471
00:18:05,284 --> 00:18:06,485
I mean, nothing comes easy.
472
00:18:06,485 --> 00:18:08,854
You got to work for it.
473
00:18:08,854 --> 00:18:09,788
Cows don't you know,
474
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people say the milk is free.
475
00:18:11,323 --> 00:18:12,925
Well, the milk isn't free.
476
00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:14,760
You know, you have to take it from
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the cow.
478
00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:18,464
That comes a lot comes with that. So
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there you go.
480
00:18:22,701 --> 00:18:24,403
One of the other great things about
481
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hands on training is to be coached.
482
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Helpful tips, critiques, feedback.
483
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It becomes a big confidence builder.
484
00:18:33,979 --> 00:18:35,514
And
485
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we can you know, from what I see around
486
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schools,
487
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coaching doesn't just come from
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instructors either.
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at
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yeah,
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yeah,
492
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Please.
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Yeah.
494
00:20:01,366 --> 00:20:06,905
Yep,
495
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yep,
496
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yep,
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Yeah, Please
498
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,127
get you know, once again,
499
00:20:29,127 --> 00:20:29,995
constantly saying it,
500
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but that's
501
00:20:30,963 --> 00:20:31,730
when you really start
502
00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:34,499
to see the Brotherhood take place
503
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There's not very many things
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more gratifying then
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than showing something to somebody and.
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They watch it catch on.
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Watch him, watch him get it.
508
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You know, the light bulb.
509
00:20:43,442 --> 00:20:45,677
Come on. For them,
510
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whether it's installing
511
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or sanding, finishing both, that's a
512
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that's a very and you're right.
513
00:20:49,815 --> 00:20:51,483
You see a lot of older guys that are
514
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that we talked about earlier that
515
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will do that. And
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he won't remember this.
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I know he won't remember this, but
518
00:21:00,025 --> 00:21:01,326
I mentioned Lenny Hall earlier.
519
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He was
520
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he was in one of my classes,
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Gosh, for years and years.
522
00:21:04,963 --> 00:21:07,065
May I wonder if it was even his first?
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No, probably wasn't his first N.W.
524
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v Glass.
525
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It was probably my second or third.
526
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And it was we were standing on a panel
527
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and I was standing a certain way and
528
00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:19,311
he asked me if I was done. I said, Yeah.
529
00:21:19,311 --> 00:21:19,745
He goes, Well,
530
00:21:19,745 --> 00:21:21,613
you haven't run the big machine yet.
531
00:21:21,613 --> 00:21:24,316
And what I got out of that is
532
00:21:24,316 --> 00:21:27,052
when I, when I edged
533
00:21:27,052 --> 00:21:28,854
the, the last thing I do
534
00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:30,188
on the floor is run the big machine.
535
00:21:30,188 --> 00:21:31,256
I do my ass edging,
536
00:21:31,256 --> 00:21:32,691
then I run a big machine, get
537
00:21:32,691 --> 00:21:34,426
cut down on the scratches.
538
00:21:34,426 --> 00:21:36,228
And when I got done
539
00:21:36,228 --> 00:21:38,196
he does it the opposite way.
540
00:21:38,196 --> 00:21:40,232
And I thought, I mean, first of all,
541
00:21:40,232 --> 00:21:41,366
who the hell is this guy, man?
542
00:21:41,366 --> 00:21:43,969
I mean, you know, I could tell he.
543
00:21:44,036 --> 00:21:44,770
I could tell he was
544
00:21:44,770 --> 00:21:46,705
really good and meticulous,
545
00:21:46,705 --> 00:21:48,507
but I was so foreign to me.
546
00:21:48,507 --> 00:21:48,840
I thought,
547
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,309
how can be this good in the
548
00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:52,144
M not know that.
549
00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:53,378
And I'm sure
550
00:21:53,378 --> 00:21:54,813
I mean, everybody has, you know,
551
00:21:54,813 --> 00:21:55,280
I mean,
552
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,316
the guys do things for certain reasons,
553
00:21:57,316 --> 00:21:58,583
no doubt about it.
554
00:21:58,583 --> 00:22:00,552
But and he wasn't wrong.
555
00:22:00,552 --> 00:22:01,987
I mean and you know,
556
00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:04,556
you can do it either way in the right.
557
00:22:04,556 --> 00:22:07,059
But it was interesting.
558
00:22:07,059 --> 00:22:07,893
I just don't know why.
559
00:22:07,893 --> 00:22:09,294
I just thought about that.
560
00:22:09,294 --> 00:22:12,431
I love That goes in with Republicans
561
00:22:12,431 --> 00:22:21,907
and Democrats.
562
00:22:21,973 --> 00:22:28,980
Yeah,
563
00:22:29,047 --> 00:22:37,222
yeah,
564
00:22:37,322 --> 00:22:39,324
yeah, it is.
565
00:22:39,324 --> 00:22:40,292
You know, I'm
566
00:22:40,292 --> 00:22:41,760
staunchly in my camp
567
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,661
as in other people
568
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or like you say, are in theirs.
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00:22:44,229 --> 00:22:47,899
I have I have found the only time that it
570
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that it's different for me
571
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that I
572
00:22:49,534 --> 00:22:52,170
that I would agree with running the edge
573
00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:53,438
or less
574
00:22:53,438 --> 00:22:56,141
and it's on like a herringbone floor
575
00:22:56,141 --> 00:22:59,144
or a pattern the big patterned floor
576
00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:01,513
when you're having to cross blocks
577
00:23:01,513 --> 00:23:02,881
with a big machine.
578
00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:03,849
In that case,
579
00:23:03,849 --> 00:23:04,616
I think it does
580
00:23:04,616 --> 00:23:05,717
make sense to run the edge.
581
00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:06,985
Your last case,
582
00:23:06,985 --> 00:23:08,186
you have any crossover, Mark,
583
00:23:08,186 --> 00:23:10,455
you can kind of hit them as you go along.
584
00:23:10,522 --> 00:23:12,758
But anyhow, then I just thought about it.
585
00:23:12,758 --> 00:23:13,658
I'll tell you why.
586
00:23:13,658 --> 00:23:14,726
I love the
587
00:23:14,726 --> 00:23:16,461
I love all the schools I went to.
588
00:23:16,461 --> 00:23:18,897
I never had a bad school.
589
00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:21,266
I always enjoyed going to your schools
590
00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:22,634
as well. Whenever I get a chance to.
591
00:23:22,634 --> 00:23:24,336
I think it's a
592
00:23:24,336 --> 00:23:25,303
it just kind of connects
593
00:23:25,303 --> 00:23:26,304
you back with the trade.
594
00:23:26,304 --> 00:23:28,473
Okay.
595
00:23:28,473 --> 00:23:30,742
I think this
596
00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:58,937
Okay,
597
00:23:59,037 --> 00:24:02,007
I did weigh twice.
598
00:24:02,073 --> 00:24:03,875
I was really confused.
599
00:24:03,875 --> 00:24:05,143
No, I don't remember
600
00:24:05,143 --> 00:24:06,211
starting it off like that.
601
00:24:06,211 --> 00:24:07,245
I think the
602
00:24:07,245 --> 00:24:08,280
when I was in
603
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,682
when I was in journalism in high school,
604
00:24:10,682 --> 00:24:11,817
it was who, what, when,
605
00:24:11,817 --> 00:24:15,487
where, why and how to write a good story.
606
00:24:15,587 --> 00:24:20,659
But I don't know what this is about.
607
00:24:20,725 --> 00:24:23,562
They remind me.
608
00:24:23,562 --> 00:24:25,697
Going out a lot of jobs right now,
609
00:24:25,697 --> 00:24:26,898
you're going to have the confidence
610
00:24:26,898 --> 00:24:28,467
to go in a loft like,
611
00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:30,335
why don't you send love?
612
00:24:30,335 --> 00:24:33,605
You cannot go on a live job site,
613
00:24:33,705 --> 00:24:36,575
know what to do, what not to do,
614
00:24:36,575 --> 00:24:39,978
how to do it and why we're doing it.
615
00:24:40,078 --> 00:24:42,080
that's true.
616
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,781
And I don't know why
617
00:24:42,781 --> 00:24:43,882
this last quote seem
618
00:24:43,882 --> 00:24:46,551
so appropriate right now to you.
619
00:24:46,551 --> 00:24:48,253
But when a cowboy's too old to
620
00:24:48,253 --> 00:24:53,391
a bad example, he hands out good advice,
621
00:24:53,458 --> 00:24:54,159
I was.
622
00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:57,395
I was timely.
623
00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:58,263
Yeah.
624
00:24:58,263 --> 00:25:03,168
Yeah, I was.
625
00:25:03,268 --> 00:25:03,969
when a cowboy's
626
00:25:03,969 --> 00:25:06,438
too old to set a bad example,
627
00:25:06,438 --> 00:25:07,105
he hands out.
628
00:25:07,105 --> 00:25:12,377
Good advice.
629
00:25:12,477 --> 00:25:12,978
that?
630
00:25:12,978 --> 00:25:20,519
Is Rob Johnson right there.
631
00:25:20,585 --> 00:25:22,988
Nice.
632
00:25:22,988 --> 00:25:24,456
All right,
633
00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:26,591
when I was coaching,
634
00:25:26,591 --> 00:25:28,426
when I was coaching the U.S.
635
00:25:28,426 --> 00:25:31,463
men's postal hockey team, that was
636
00:25:31,463 --> 00:25:32,230
one of the jokes
637
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:34,833
was those who can't coach.
638
00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:36,902
Yep,
639
00:25:36,902 --> 00:25:40,171
Yep, So you got cowboy and farmer quotes.
640
00:25:40,171 --> 00:25:43,275
I'm big with sports coaches,
641
00:25:43,275 --> 00:25:47,779
quotes yep,
642
00:25:47,846 --> 00:25:58,023
yeah, yeah.
643
00:25:58,089 --> 00:25:59,357
Yeah.
644
00:25:59,357 --> 00:26:00,325
Agreed.
645
00:26:00,325 --> 00:26:03,795
I think so highly of farmers in America.
646
00:26:03,895 --> 00:26:05,931
Well, I mean, that's world wide.
647
00:26:05,931 --> 00:26:09,067
Probably. Sure for her.
648
00:26:09,167 --> 00:26:10,035
And I love
649
00:26:10,035 --> 00:26:13,038
how simplistic the, their, their,
650
00:26:13,271 --> 00:26:14,706
their sayings are
651
00:26:14,706 --> 00:26:17,709
and they hold so much meaning so
652
00:26:17,876 --> 00:26:19,711
you don't have to say a lot to to
653
00:26:19,711 --> 00:26:20,545
to mean a lot.
654
00:26:20,545 --> 00:26:22,514
So I think farmers
655
00:26:22,514 --> 00:26:26,318
and floor guys have a lot in common.
656
00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:34,259
yeah, yeah, yeah,
657
00:26:34,326 --> 00:26:36,328
yeah,
658
00:26:36,328 --> 00:26:38,196
yeah, yeah.
659
00:26:38,196 --> 00:26:58,149
Yep
660
00:26:58,249 --> 00:26:59,818
yeah
661
00:26:59,818 --> 00:27:00,652
they do.
662
00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:02,721
Yeah,
663
00:27:02,721 --> 00:27:09,661
yeah.
664
00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:11,396
yeah.
665
00:27:11,396 --> 00:27:11,663
you know,
666
00:27:11,663 --> 00:27:11,997
I've said
667
00:27:11,997 --> 00:27:16,368
this many, many times to people,
668
00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:19,471
even for Sanders friends and families
669
00:27:19,704 --> 00:27:22,273
or floor, you know, wood floor guys,
670
00:27:22,273 --> 00:27:22,907
even their friends
671
00:27:22,907 --> 00:27:23,875
and family
672
00:27:23,875 --> 00:27:25,944
really don't realize how hard they work.
673
00:27:25,944 --> 00:27:27,746
Only we
674
00:27:27,746 --> 00:27:30,749
I've said that so many times.
675
00:27:30,949 --> 00:27:31,783
So many times.
676
00:27:31,783 --> 00:27:33,718
Your friends that have other jobs
677
00:27:33,718 --> 00:27:35,153
or whatever, they never,
678
00:27:35,153 --> 00:27:36,154
they will never
679
00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:37,822
understand or appreciate
680
00:27:37,822 --> 00:27:40,125
how hard a floor guy works.
681
00:27:40,125 --> 00:27:41,159
Without doubt.
682
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:44,763
Yeah. know
683
00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:46,297
farmers the same way.
684
00:27:46,297 --> 00:28:06,184
Now, you know, I bartended
685
00:28:06,251 --> 00:28:08,787
Did you turn into a bartender
686
00:28:08,787 --> 00:28:11,790
after the first guy you try to bounce
687
00:28:11,890 --> 00:28:14,826
out of there
688
00:28:14,826 --> 00:28:16,294
way?
689
00:28:16,294 --> 00:28:17,128
Yeah.
690
00:28:17,128 --> 00:28:18,730
Yeah, I actually.
691
00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:21,433
It's.
692
00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:22,834
I can see you in that role.
693
00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:25,503
Yeah. yeah.
694
00:28:25,503 --> 00:28:26,938
But the problem with bouncing
695
00:28:26,938 --> 00:28:27,639
is there's no,
696
00:28:27,639 --> 00:28:29,441
no money in being the bouncer.
697
00:28:29,441 --> 00:28:32,077
The bartenders make all
698
00:28:32,077 --> 00:28:34,045
I don't think.
699
00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:37,048
I don't think they do it for the money.
700
00:28:37,315 --> 00:28:38,450
bartending.
701
00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:39,584
No bouncing.
702
00:28:39,584 --> 00:28:40,919
I I'll think a guy is a bouncer
703
00:28:40,919 --> 00:28:43,421
because he thinks it's good money.
704
00:28:43,421 --> 00:28:45,623
no, no.
705
00:28:45,623 --> 00:28:48,626
I learned that really quick.
706
00:28:48,626 --> 00:28:51,930
Learn that one really quick.
707
00:28:51,996 --> 00:28:53,498
All right, I.
708
00:28:53,498 --> 00:28:55,467
I'm sorry. I interrupt.
709
00:28:55,467 --> 00:28:56,768
I interrupt. I interrupted you.
710
00:28:56,768 --> 00:28:58,369
I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah.
711
00:28:58,369 --> 00:28:59,270
I think you're going to talk about
712
00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:01,139
how hard restaurant people work.
713
00:29:01,139 --> 00:29:02,307
Yeah.
714
00:29:02,307 --> 00:29:04,743
So this guy turned his bar
715
00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:05,877
into a restaurant.
716
00:29:05,877 --> 00:29:07,178
Now he's serving
717
00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:14,886
breakfast, lunch and dinner
718
00:29:14,986 --> 00:29:35,673
Yeah.
719
00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:37,442
Yeah.
720
00:29:37,442 --> 00:29:38,676
Well, I think
721
00:29:38,676 --> 00:29:39,778
one of the challenging things
722
00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:40,879
about the restaurant
723
00:29:40,879 --> 00:29:42,614
business, too, is the turnover.
724
00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:45,049
They have so much turnover.
725
00:29:45,049 --> 00:29:46,751
It's a tough business, no doubt about it.
726
00:29:46,751 --> 00:29:47,418
Very tough.
727
00:29:47,418 --> 00:29:51,256
And, funny you say turnover
728
00:29:51,356 --> 00:29:53,158
because I came into
729
00:29:53,158 --> 00:29:54,125
used to bartend Friday
730
00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:57,328
and Saturday nights and I came in one
731
00:29:57,328 --> 00:29:59,063
Friday night
732
00:29:59,063 --> 00:30:00,365
and I'm setting up the bar
733
00:30:00,365 --> 00:30:00,899
and everything.
734
00:30:00,899 --> 00:30:02,634
And I looked over to
735
00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:03,401
one of the waitresses
736
00:30:03,401 --> 00:30:05,770
and I said, Hey, where's where's Tommy?
737
00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:08,339
Tommy was the owner, and he says,
738
00:30:08,339 --> 00:30:11,309
she goes, He's in the back doing dishes.
739
00:30:11,309 --> 00:30:13,378
Like what?
740
00:30:13,378 --> 00:30:14,679
So I go back there
741
00:30:14,679 --> 00:30:16,381
and I had known this guy forever.
742
00:30:16,381 --> 00:30:19,117
You know, we're we're good friends.
743
00:30:19,117 --> 00:30:21,186
So I go, What the hell are you doing?
744
00:30:21,186 --> 00:30:22,587
He goes, the brothers.
745
00:30:22,587 --> 00:30:28,359
He had these two brothers that would
746
00:30:28,459 --> 00:30:28,893
very.
747
00:30:28,893 --> 00:30:31,896
And brothers didn't show up today.
748
00:30:31,930 --> 00:30:33,731
So he goes, So you're doing the dishes.
749
00:30:33,731 --> 00:30:35,567
And he goes, Well,
750
00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:37,235
I said,
751
00:30:37,235 --> 00:30:38,303
I should tell somebody else
752
00:30:38,303 --> 00:30:39,003
to do the dishes.
753
00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:44,008
Usually you're the freakin owner.
754
00:30:44,075 --> 00:30:50,281
Yeah,
755
00:30:50,348 --> 00:30:56,821
yeah, yeah.
756
00:30:56,921 --> 00:30:59,858
All right, Rob, I appreciate it.
757
00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:01,693
Thanks for all the knowledge again.
758
00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:03,027
And I would say goodbye to you right
759
00:31:03,027 --> 00:31:03,895
now, but
760
00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:05,196
According to John Wayne,
761
00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:06,097
a cowboy never says
762
00:31:06,097 --> 00:31:08,466
goodbye is not in his nature.
763
00:31:08,466 --> 00:31:12,103
So until next time,
764
00:31:12,203 --> 00:31:13,938
please stay tuned for another episode.