On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

The Subjectiveness of the Trade

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob discuss how subjective the hardwood flooring trade is. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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the.

 

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Hello and welcome to

 

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another episode of On the Floor

 

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with Wayne Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne Highlander,

 

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director of sales for Bona Adhesives.

 

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How are you, Rob?

 

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Look pretty pale and pretty white.

 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

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That's very bright and vivid.

 

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I know,

 

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But when you get done,

 

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let's get the podcast.

 

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Rob, I don't know if you know it or not,

 

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but I have a dog on five medications.

 

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I have a dog.

 

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It's a

 

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five medications he's on.

 

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And

 

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I went fishing last week.

 

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Sunday, actually,

 

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I had a great day by the way.

 

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I got five really nice small mouth

 

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and I was leaving the parking lot

 

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and I seen the worst possible thing

 

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I see in a stray cat

 

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and somebody dumped off.

 

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Okay, now,

 

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well,

 

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it's

 

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still in cats.

 

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He was in a parking

 

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lot out in the country,

 

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out in the middle of nowhere. And.

 

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And he was starving to death.

 

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And so. So.

 

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And he and

 

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I tried to get him to get some food.

 

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He wouldn't take the food.

 

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He was scared. He ran away.

 

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Turns out she ran away.

 

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Already knew

 

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no more

 

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than about that cat than I want to.

 

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And so as I tried

 

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for about another 20 minutes or so

 

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and then she finally just quit and walked

 

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right up to me without any any fight.

 

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And I picked her up

 

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through her in the car.

 

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And I the first thing I did was

 

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I went to a little grocery

 

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store out in the country.

 

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They sold cat food

 

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and gave me some cat food in and

 

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devoured it.

 

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And so we got

 

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to find a home for that cat.

 

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So I am really not happy about that

 

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situation.

 

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I would gladly do that.

 

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I have a picture. I took a picture.

 

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I as so I put it,

 

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I put her in the garage.

 

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Very, very affectionate cat.

 

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I mean, super affectionate cat.

 

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So black and white.

 

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We got four cats and a dog,

 

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so I just.

 

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Can I have another one, Man,

 

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I just can't.

 

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So anyhow,

 

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you know, as I was

 

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thinking the other day, Rob,

 

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you know,

 

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I was talking to somebody

 

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and the customer is complaining

 

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about something that they did

 

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and this, this industry, this trade

 

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that we're in.

 

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What makes it so difficult

 

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if you're an electrician

 

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and you learn the trade

 

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of being an electrician

 

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and you're dealing with wires

 

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and, you know,

 

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certain wires go to certain places and

 

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it's cut in stone,

 

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believe me, you'll find out the hard way.

 

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If not,

 

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I mean, there there's no room for for,

 

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you know,

 

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you know, maybe it should go here.

 

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Maybe they could do this.

 

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There is no room for any know.

 

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There's no gray area.

 

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It's black and white

 

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in our trade,

 

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especially on the skin and finish side.

 

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Even on installation

 

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so many times is nothing but gray zone.

 

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You know what I mean?

 

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It's nothing but left to what people

 

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somebody's perception of what

 

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it should be or what have you.

 

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And I think that's

 

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what makes our trade so difficult.

 

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I mean, I'm

 

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just going to list a few things

 

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that that are very subjective.

 

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And you start with the sheen of the

 

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of the of the finish.

 

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I mean, Matt, to you and Matt,

 

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to me, in our minds,

 

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they might be something

 

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completely different.

 

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And you might be saying, Matt,

 

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but you don't really mean Matt.

 

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What I know is Matt to be

 

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because maybe you're not

 

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you know you're not from this industry

 

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and you read something

 

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that something else is mad

 

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and you saw something

 

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and you think Matt

 

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was the right way to go.

 

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And, and maybe you did

 

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look at samples and

 

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and maybe it's in a different lighting

 

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and maybe is in a smaller setting

 

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and so just the sheen level alone

 

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is very much up to

 

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what someone thinks is

 

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the right sheen level,

 

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the color of the stain.

 

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I mean,

 

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when you look at a sample, you there's

 

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no way

 

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someone can put the stain

 

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the entire floor as a sample

 

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and then watch it in certain light.

 

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Someone maybe did the job in July.

 

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And the weather was really nice out

 

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and was very clear.

 

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And then by the time you do

 

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the job, a few months later,

 

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the weather starts to change.

 

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Now it's gotten darker and what have you.

 

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And and, you know, maybe that alone is is

 

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that was that medium brown color stain

 

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now looks darker to someone

 

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when they see the entire floor

 

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or sometimes it's just buyer's remorse.

 

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Sometimes it

 

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they thought they wanted that.

 

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And as much as you talk to them about it

 

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and they you know,

 

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some people don't want to

 

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you know, they'll be very

 

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polite and everything.

 

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So they kind of go along with things.

 

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But then when it gets right down to it,

 

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they're disappointed.

 

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They have buyer's remorse.

 

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And it wasn't even a matter of

 

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there was no communication.

 

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It's just that

 

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they didn't see it or didn't

 

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take the time to see it

 

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or watch or think it through or whatever

 

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that.

 

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Yeah,

 

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it

 

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so if I'm going to miss on a stain,

 

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I would 100 times over

 

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rather be on the light side,

 

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then the dark side.

 

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And a lot of it is for that reason.

 

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You're just saying with Chroma,

 

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I always feel like

 

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if as long as I'm close

 

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and a little bit too light,

 

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I can dial it in now.

 

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I can dial

 

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in way easier

 

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than using some of the products

 

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we used to use in the past.

 

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And you.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Yeah.

 

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I think that is massive.

 

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I mean, I mean,

 

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I, you know, easy

 

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carry transient with it in the van

 

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all the time for that reason

 

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for just in case we had a

 

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we had it

 

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and some other color to to a stain

 

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to the sealer

 

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or the finish that went over the stain

 

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but you as always gosh,

 

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if there's a two drops or whatever,

 

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I mean it was always like,

 

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gosh, hope

 

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you don't put too much in there.

 

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And it was difficult to work with.

 

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The chrome is going to be way,

 

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way easier to work with.

 

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And I think there's a formula, right,

 

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for 5% more and what have you.

 

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If you're adding

 

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Yeah that's I think,

 

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absolutely phenomenal.

 

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Speaking of Chroma, we had a contractor

 

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I kind of wish

 

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we had him on the podcast

 

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because he was saying that,

 

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you know, it was a learning curve

 

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for them to use it on a job.

 

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But he figured on this job,

 

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it saved him an entire day.

 

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And so he's working into their system

 

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now up in Canada.

 

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So that's

 

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I mean, the time savings

 

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alone of this product

 

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plus his never having to worry

 

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about spontaneous combustion again.

 

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We weren't going to talk

 

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about Chrome on this floor,

 

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But I just think that's

 

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the I mean

 

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I mean, I don't I'm not a gambler.

 

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I know you're not a gambler, but that's a

 

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you know, a

 

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scary proposition

 

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to have to worry about that. Yeah.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Well, I mean,

 

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they say

 

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gambling is a game of luck,

 

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and the number one rule is

 

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you don't bet more than

 

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you can afford to lose.

 

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And if you know,

 

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a lot of guys

 

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will get through 30 years of

 

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of doing flaws without having a fire,

 

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but it's like getting struck

 

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by lightning.

 

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You know what I mean

 

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is, is that one time that you do

 

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is you or one of your guys

 

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or what have you managed to.

 

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It's a scary proposition. So, yeah.

 

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So along with.

 

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Yeah, yeah,

 

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yeah.

 

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Well that's no surprise

 

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Now.

 

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And

 

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yeah,

 

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yeah,

 

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yeah.

 

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Well yeah.

 

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And sometimes that's nice to have,

 

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you know what I mean.

 

268

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Because you can

 

269

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you put all that into the equation

 

270

00:13:36,849 --> 00:13:37,917

to come up with

 

271

00:13:37,917 --> 00:13:38,651

what you think

 

272

00:13:38,651 --> 00:13:41,654

is the best solution for your clients.

 

273

00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:42,822

But like even the board

 

274

00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:45,291

lengths are subjected to a lot of people.

 

275

00:13:45,291 --> 00:13:45,558

You know,

 

276

00:13:45,558 --> 00:13:46,992

you can say it's selecting better

 

277

00:13:46,992 --> 00:13:48,427

or it's clear or whatever

 

278

00:13:48,427 --> 00:13:49,261

is number one comment

 

279

00:13:49,261 --> 00:13:51,263

and this is what's allowed.

 

280

00:13:51,263 --> 00:13:52,798

But, you know, a lot of times

 

281

00:13:52,798 --> 00:13:54,233

you'll see homeowners saying, gosh,

 

282

00:13:54,233 --> 00:13:55,701

this boards, how can we put this

 

283

00:13:55,701 --> 00:13:57,369

this board so small in this area here

 

284

00:13:57,369 --> 00:13:57,970

and these boards,

 

285

00:13:57,970 --> 00:13:59,471

I thought they'd be longer

 

286

00:13:59,471 --> 00:14:00,639

unless the job stage,

 

287

00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:02,474

which I've been on jobs like this

 

288

00:14:02,474 --> 00:14:03,676

where it's like,

 

289

00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:05,311

no, no, no more

 

290

00:14:05,311 --> 00:14:07,313

is shorter than three feet,

 

291

00:14:07,413 --> 00:14:08,314

which are

 

292

00:14:08,314 --> 00:14:08,781

you know, we've

 

293

00:14:08,781 --> 00:14:09,982

definitely been on those jobs.

 

294

00:14:09,982 --> 00:14:11,917

But most of the times you're going to use

 

295

00:14:11,917 --> 00:14:12,785

what's what's there.

 

296

00:14:12,785 --> 00:14:14,353

They're they're nested bundles

 

297

00:14:14,353 --> 00:14:15,621

and you're going to you're going

 

298

00:14:15,621 --> 00:14:17,089

to, you know,

 

299

00:14:17,089 --> 00:14:18,757

snag them, stagger them

 

300

00:14:18,757 --> 00:14:21,727

as eloquently as you can and air

 

301

00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:24,430

elegantly as you can and,

 

302

00:14:24,430 --> 00:14:25,931

you know, make make it flow

 

303

00:14:25,931 --> 00:14:28,267

and not have its joints and, you know,

 

304

00:14:28,267 --> 00:14:29,635

those type of things and

 

305

00:14:29,635 --> 00:14:32,338

and and use those boards accordingly.

 

306

00:14:32,338 --> 00:14:35,207

But if the consumer is

 

307

00:14:35,207 --> 00:14:36,575

has in their mind of picture,

 

308

00:14:36,575 --> 00:14:38,677

they saw some in Pinterest

 

309

00:14:38,677 --> 00:14:41,013

or before they saw back in the 1800s,

 

310

00:14:41,013 --> 00:14:42,381

a place they just visited

 

311

00:14:42,381 --> 00:14:43,949

were white playing floors.

 

312

00:14:43,949 --> 00:14:44,783

And it's all, you know,

 

313

00:14:44,783 --> 00:14:47,786

long, long lengths.

 

314

00:14:47,853 --> 00:14:49,555

Man, I've laid floors before.

 

315

00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:51,357

Where are San and Finsbury

 

316

00:14:51,357 --> 00:14:52,591

before where all the boards were

 

317

00:14:52,591 --> 00:14:54,426

12, 12 feet long,

 

318

00:14:54,426 --> 00:14:55,327

You know,

 

319

00:14:55,327 --> 00:14:57,429

there was no but joints in the room.

 

320

00:14:57,429 --> 00:15:00,432

And so now you're coming into

 

321

00:15:00,532 --> 00:15:01,333

what's traditional

 

322

00:15:01,333 --> 00:15:03,435

today is nested bundles or whatever.

 

323

00:15:03,435 --> 00:15:05,170

I mean, even that subjective.

 

324

00:15:05,170 --> 00:15:06,405

And so the, you know,

 

325

00:15:06,405 --> 00:15:09,041

the four guys pitted against somebody

 

326

00:15:09,041 --> 00:15:11,710

who had expectations

 

327

00:15:11,777 --> 00:15:13,779

and, you know, where you

 

328

00:15:13,779 --> 00:15:14,079

could

 

329

00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:16,248

you could have ever solved them without,

 

330

00:15:16,248 --> 00:15:17,082

you know, someone telling you

 

331

00:15:17,082 --> 00:15:17,750

that ahead of time.

 

332

00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:18,651

You know what I mean?

 

333

00:15:18,651 --> 00:15:21,420

People

 

334

00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:22,087

Yeah.

 

335

00:15:22,087 --> 00:15:25,724

Yeah,

 

336

00:15:25,791 --> 00:15:27,526

yeah, yeah.

 

337

00:15:27,526 --> 00:15:32,932

It's a lot of fun.

 

338

00:15:33,032 --> 00:15:36,568

Yeah,

 

339

00:15:36,669 --> 00:15:37,536

yeah.

 

340

00:15:37,536 --> 00:15:42,074

It, it,

 

341

00:15:42,141 --> 00:15:48,247

it,

 

342

00:15:48,314 --> 00:15:49,982

yeah,

 

343

00:15:49,982 --> 00:15:50,950

yeah.

 

344

00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,318

I think you blend in two different

 

345

00:15:52,318 --> 00:15:52,985

rules, though.

 

346

00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:54,286

I think the five foot rule

 

347

00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:55,654

and the three second rule.

 

348

00:15:55,654 --> 00:15:57,122

The three second rule is

 

349

00:15:57,122 --> 00:15:59,391

when food touches the ground, isn't it.

 

350

00:15:59,391 --> 00:16:00,826

That is,

 

351

00:16:00,826 --> 00:16:02,995

you can still pick it up and eat it.

 

352

00:16:02,995 --> 00:16:09,034

I think the five foot two rule,

 

353

00:16:09,134 --> 00:16:11,437

I've always gone

 

354

00:16:11,437 --> 00:16:12,905

five foot off the ground

 

355

00:16:12,905 --> 00:16:14,573

looking at two feet out

 

356

00:16:14,573 --> 00:16:16,942

and not using glare as a consideration.

 

357

00:16:16,942 --> 00:16:20,212

But then you get where.

 

358

00:16:20,312 --> 00:16:21,981

Yeah,

 

359

00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:24,817

I think you get in at a second set.

 

360

00:16:24,817 --> 00:16:29,355

I think you're talking about food again.

 

361

00:16:29,421 --> 00:16:30,689

You

 

362

00:16:30,689 --> 00:16:31,757

know, when you see seconds

 

363

00:16:31,757 --> 00:16:32,891

or maybe that's the buffet

 

364

00:16:32,891 --> 00:16:41,700

buffer or the buffet rule.

 

365

00:16:41,767 --> 00:16:42,935

How subjective is that?

 

366

00:16:42,935 --> 00:16:44,903

I know the issues there. So let me look.

 

367

00:16:44,903 --> 00:16:46,005

yeah, yeah.

 

368

00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:47,406

There it is. I see it.

 

369

00:16:47,406 --> 00:16:48,907

You know what I mean?

 

370

00:16:48,907 --> 00:16:49,842

The whole thing.

 

371

00:16:49,842 --> 00:17:05,057

And when it

 

372

00:17:05,157 --> 00:17:15,067

me

 

373

00:17:15,134 --> 00:17:16,602

as,

 

374

00:17:16,602 --> 00:17:18,937

as beautiful,

 

375

00:17:18,937 --> 00:17:19,304

really brilliant.

 

376

00:17:19,304 --> 00:17:24,143

You get away with it if you don't move.

 

377

00:17:24,243 --> 00:17:26,011

But, but there's so many things

 

378

00:17:26,011 --> 00:17:27,546

that can be, that can work against you.

 

379

00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:28,147

And the other one.

 

380

00:17:28,147 --> 00:17:29,681

The other one is the,

 

381

00:17:29,681 --> 00:17:30,916

the smoothness of the floor.

 

382

00:17:30,916 --> 00:17:32,384

We've talked about it so many times.

 

383

00:17:32,384 --> 00:17:33,519

What is what is

 

384

00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:35,287

you know, how do you even define that?

 

385

00:17:35,287 --> 00:17:38,457

And I and to the customer who's

 

386

00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:40,392

arguing that their their food,

 

387

00:17:40,392 --> 00:17:41,160

their food,

 

388

00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,429

I guess I'm thinking about food

 

389

00:17:43,529 --> 00:17:45,397

a little bit.

 

390

00:17:45,397 --> 00:17:45,931

Yeah.

 

391

00:17:45,931 --> 00:17:47,633

I wrote

 

392

00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:48,734

I did not have

 

393

00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:51,203

lunch, had a snack around one,

 

394

00:17:51,203 --> 00:17:53,072

but

 

395

00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:54,306

the smoothness of the boards,

 

396

00:17:54,306 --> 00:17:55,374

you know what's acceptable

 

397

00:17:55,374 --> 00:17:56,008

as far as that.

 

398

00:17:56,008 --> 00:17:56,375

And yes,

 

399

00:17:56,375 --> 00:17:57,910

you can go by the end of day guidelines

 

400

00:17:57,910 --> 00:17:58,911

and all those type of things.

 

401

00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:00,479

But, but you know that

 

402

00:18:00,479 --> 00:18:02,147

before you even get there, the

 

403

00:18:02,147 --> 00:18:04,149

the discussion with the homeowner,

 

404

00:18:04,149 --> 00:18:05,617

you shouldn't have a fight

 

405

00:18:05,617 --> 00:18:06,385

for something like that.

 

406

00:18:06,385 --> 00:18:07,686

You know what I mean?

 

407

00:18:07,686 --> 00:18:09,621

There's no it's just like I said,

 

408

00:18:09,621 --> 00:18:10,956

it's just

 

409

00:18:10,956 --> 00:18:11,590

let's see,

 

410

00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:12,458

I can run across this

 

411

00:18:12,458 --> 00:18:14,226

before my mother in law

 

412

00:18:14,226 --> 00:18:15,694

refinished furniture

 

413

00:18:15,694 --> 00:18:19,198

and everybody in her circle was furniture

 

414

00:18:19,298 --> 00:18:20,332

finishers.

 

415

00:18:20,332 --> 00:18:21,333

And, you know,

 

416

00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,435

I think there's like 22 or 23 steps

 

417

00:18:23,435 --> 00:18:24,369

that one guy was telling me

 

418

00:18:24,369 --> 00:18:25,537

that they'd used to

 

419

00:18:25,537 --> 00:18:27,539

to refinish a piece of furniture.

 

420

00:18:27,539 --> 00:18:28,607

Okay.

 

421

00:18:28,607 --> 00:18:30,509

Well, you can imagine the amount of cost

 

422

00:18:30,509 --> 00:18:31,009

that would go up

 

423

00:18:31,009 --> 00:18:32,811

if your floor had 23 additional

 

424

00:18:32,811 --> 00:18:33,679

steps to it to get it

 

425

00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:42,654

to where it needed to be.

 

426

00:18:42,754 --> 00:18:45,224

And in

 

427

00:18:45,224 --> 00:18:46,191

I didn't realize it

 

428

00:18:46,191 --> 00:18:46,825

until I was

 

429

00:18:46,825 --> 00:18:47,793

about on a third

 

430

00:18:47,793 --> 00:18:48,694

or fourth referral

 

431

00:18:48,694 --> 00:18:50,796

from her to these people.

 

432

00:18:50,796 --> 00:18:51,964

And I started putting it together.

 

433

00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:54,199

These clowns,

 

434

00:18:54,199 --> 00:18:55,100

they don't know anything

 

435

00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:56,034

about doing floors.

 

436

00:18:56,034 --> 00:18:56,735

They, they

 

437

00:18:56,735 --> 00:18:58,003

I mean, you're talking to me

 

438

00:18:58,003 --> 00:19:01,306

and I tell them I finish up with one 2120

 

439

00:19:01,406 --> 00:19:01,740

yeah.

 

440

00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:02,207

We go to

 

441

00:19:02,207 --> 00:19:03,675

320 and we do this

 

442

00:19:03,675 --> 00:19:06,245

and we do a thousand grid

 

443

00:19:06,245 --> 00:19:06,578

that.

 

444

00:19:06,578 --> 00:19:08,947

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

445

00:19:08,947 --> 00:19:11,250

So,

 

446

00:19:11,250 --> 00:19:15,888

and even the quality of the boards.

 

447

00:19:15,954 --> 00:19:17,589

Yeah, yeah.

 

448

00:19:17,589 --> 00:19:19,725

All the retired furniture finishers

 

449

00:19:19,725 --> 00:19:21,093

and here is a here is,

 

450

00:19:21,093 --> 00:19:23,762

here is the one that got me the, the most

 

451

00:19:23,762 --> 00:19:24,963

I was doing of course on floor.

 

452

00:19:24,963 --> 00:19:26,131

I remember the old Firebird

 

453

00:19:26,131 --> 00:19:27,633

caught us on three inch, five inch.

 

454

00:19:27,633 --> 00:19:32,504

It was the most beautiful floor and

 

455

00:19:32,571 --> 00:19:34,540

Yeah.

 

456

00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:37,075

Yes the

 

457

00:19:37,075 --> 00:19:40,078

there were out of I want to say Louisiana

 

458

00:19:40,212 --> 00:19:41,246

I want to see. Yeah.

 

459

00:19:41,246 --> 00:19:42,948

In fact I know they were at Louisiana,

 

460

00:19:42,948 --> 00:19:43,515

I don't think they're

 

461

00:19:43,515 --> 00:19:44,316

still around anymore.

 

462

00:19:44,316 --> 00:19:45,484

But it was my all time

 

463

00:19:45,484 --> 00:19:47,753

beautiful, beautiful, beautiful floor

 

464

00:19:47,753 --> 00:19:50,756

and it was five inch and I was doing her

 

465

00:19:50,889 --> 00:19:53,492

and entryway kitchen, dining room,

 

466

00:19:53,492 --> 00:19:55,127

most of first floor.

 

467

00:19:55,127 --> 00:19:57,396

And it was mostly all heavy quartered.

 

468

00:19:57,396 --> 00:19:58,330

And, you know,

 

469

00:19:58,330 --> 00:19:59,631

she was an antique furniture

 

470

00:19:59,631 --> 00:20:01,200

person back in that back in the 80.

 

471

00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,401

It was all caught course on a light oak.

 

472

00:20:02,401 --> 00:20:03,135

Right.

 

473

00:20:03,135 --> 00:20:05,571

So I see I saved this one plank

 

474

00:20:05,571 --> 00:20:06,038

that had

 

475

00:20:06,038 --> 00:20:06,872

it was long

 

476

00:20:06,872 --> 00:20:08,106

and had the most beautiful quarter

 

477

00:20:08,106 --> 00:20:09,741

sun green in it. Right.

 

478

00:20:09,741 --> 00:20:10,175

So I told

 

479

00:20:10,175 --> 00:20:12,044

my brother is hanging on this board,

 

480

00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:13,111

we're getting in the entryway.

 

481

00:20:13,111 --> 00:20:14,146

I put this right down the middle,

 

482

00:20:14,146 --> 00:20:17,883

the entryway like this is beautiful,

 

483

00:20:17,950 --> 00:20:18,784

honest to God.

 

484

00:20:18,784 --> 00:20:20,819

Right, Rob? Shoot me dead.

 

485

00:20:20,819 --> 00:20:23,455

She asked, Would you replace that board?

 

486

00:20:23,455 --> 00:20:25,090

I said.

 

487

00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:27,459

I almost started laughing at first.

 

488

00:20:27,459 --> 00:20:29,661

I said, You're kidding me.

 

489

00:20:29,661 --> 00:20:31,964

She goes, No, it's just so wild.

 

490

00:20:31,964 --> 00:20:34,733

I said, Ma'am, I mean, you're in

 

491

00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:36,034

you you refinished furniture

 

492

00:20:36,034 --> 00:20:38,070

and you guys all do cortisol.

 

493

00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:39,938

You know, that's the cream of the crop.

 

494

00:20:39,938 --> 00:20:42,007

That doesn't get any better than this.

 

495

00:20:42,007 --> 00:20:44,009

And not only that,

 

496

00:20:44,009 --> 00:20:45,577

when I put the first coat on,

 

497

00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:45,944

I actually

 

498

00:20:45,944 --> 00:20:46,945

that's the other thing in a baby

 

499

00:20:46,945 --> 00:20:48,413

that disgust me with her.

 

500

00:20:48,413 --> 00:20:50,015

You want to go natural, finish

 

501

00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:51,316

now who does a quarter sun floor

 

502

00:20:51,316 --> 00:20:53,151

and wants to go natural finish

 

503

00:20:53,151 --> 00:20:54,786

Maybe today, back in those days

 

504

00:20:54,786 --> 00:20:55,754

you want to see that grain

 

505

00:20:55,754 --> 00:20:57,990

pop out of the floor, right?

 

506

00:20:58,056 --> 00:20:58,523

So I put the

 

507

00:20:58,523 --> 00:20:59,258

first coat on

 

508

00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:00,759

and she called my mother in law

 

509

00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:02,261

to tell Wayne

 

510

00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,963

that there's like some of the boards,

 

511

00:21:04,963 --> 00:21:06,098

like two tone leg is

 

512

00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:07,432

you can do anything to like,

 

513

00:21:07,432 --> 00:21:09,001

you know, even that out.

 

514

00:21:09,001 --> 00:21:09,234

I think

 

515

00:21:09,234 --> 00:21:11,036

you got to be kidding me right now.

 

516

00:21:11,036 --> 00:21:13,205

You know what I mean?

 

517

00:21:13,205 --> 00:21:16,074

So anyhow,

 

518

00:21:16,074 --> 00:21:16,975

my mother lost friends

 

519

00:21:16,975 --> 00:21:19,478

trying to put me out of business.

 

520

00:21:19,478 --> 00:21:20,545

But but even so,

 

521

00:21:20,545 --> 00:21:21,813

even the quality of the boards,

 

522

00:21:21,813 --> 00:21:24,516

you can see it's a select Greenwood

 

523

00:21:24,516 --> 00:21:27,486

are you can say it's it's clear whatever

 

524

00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:29,254

and this is acceptable

 

525

00:21:29,254 --> 00:21:31,023

in those type of floors

 

526

00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:32,424

but then somebody

 

527

00:21:32,424 --> 00:21:32,924

you know

 

528

00:21:32,924 --> 00:21:33,825

I don't like this board

 

529

00:21:33,825 --> 00:21:34,693

in that board in the other

 

530

00:21:34,693 --> 00:21:35,160

and yes,

 

531

00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,695

you can refer back to guidelines.

 

532

00:21:36,695 --> 00:21:39,665

But again, it's just something that,

 

533

00:21:39,731 --> 00:21:41,767

you know, it's uncomfortable.

 

534

00:21:41,767 --> 00:21:42,801

You want to have that conversation.

 

535

00:21:42,801 --> 00:21:43,468

You shouldn't have to have

 

536

00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:44,236

that conversation.

 

537

00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:45,671

It just makes our trade very,

 

538

00:21:45,671 --> 00:21:46,505

very difficult

 

539

00:21:46,505 --> 00:21:51,209

compared to a lot of things.

 

540

00:21:51,276 --> 00:21:57,716

Yeah,

 

541

00:21:57,816 --> 00:21:59,084

Yeah.

 

542

00:21:59,084 --> 00:22:01,253

No,

 

543

00:22:01,253 --> 00:22:12,497

it.

 

544

00:22:12,564 --> 00:22:12,931

Yeah.

 

545

00:22:12,931 --> 00:22:14,266

But it well,

 

546

00:22:14,266 --> 00:22:15,967

I mean, it's so it's changed so much now.

 

547

00:22:15,967 --> 00:22:16,535

The price

 

548

00:22:16,535 --> 00:22:17,135

would, is, would

 

549

00:22:17,135 --> 00:22:19,137

we would have called 20 years ago.

 

550

00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:20,105

You know what I mean.

 

551

00:22:20,105 --> 00:22:22,507

Now that's something that's sought after.

 

552

00:22:22,507 --> 00:22:24,142

But

 

553

00:22:24,142 --> 00:22:25,277

I lost my train of thought

 

554

00:22:25,277 --> 00:22:27,245

when you said that.

 

555

00:22:27,245 --> 00:22:29,915

Yeah.

 

556

00:22:29,915 --> 00:22:32,284

Yeah.

 

557

00:22:32,284 --> 00:22:33,085

So I don't know.

 

558

00:22:33,085 --> 00:22:33,752

I just think.

 

559

00:22:33,752 --> 00:22:35,721

Here's the one thing I think you said.

 

560

00:22:35,721 --> 00:22:36,822

You never,

 

561

00:22:36,822 --> 00:22:38,256

you know, you get lost that argument.

 

562

00:22:38,256 --> 00:22:38,557

Whatever.

 

563

00:22:38,557 --> 00:22:39,658

I think we have one thing

 

564

00:22:39,658 --> 00:22:40,826

against all these things

 

565

00:22:40,826 --> 00:22:42,627

that may be on our side.

 

566

00:22:42,627 --> 00:22:43,929

The one thing that we have

 

567

00:22:43,929 --> 00:22:45,197

that can combat everything

 

568

00:22:45,197 --> 00:22:46,865

I just said and it's not foolproof,

 

569

00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:48,166

it's not bulletproof,

 

570

00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:50,702

but it's the closest thing I've found.

 

571

00:22:50,702 --> 00:22:51,970

And that word is trust.

 

572

00:22:51,970 --> 00:22:53,105

Trust.

 

573

00:22:53,105 --> 00:22:55,173

If if they trust you

 

574

00:22:55,173 --> 00:22:56,475

and you've built that trust

 

575

00:22:56,475 --> 00:22:58,143

and rapport with them,

 

576

00:22:58,143 --> 00:22:59,911

then that is the one thing you have

 

577

00:22:59,911 --> 00:23:01,446

that can defend against these

 

578

00:23:01,446 --> 00:23:03,915

type of subjective claims.

 

579

00:23:04,015 --> 00:23:04,649

It's a lot

 

580

00:23:04,649 --> 00:23:06,084

easier when you refer, believe me,

 

581

00:23:06,084 --> 00:23:07,853

when I tell you

 

582

00:23:07,853 --> 00:23:09,688

when you've been referred to the job,

 

583

00:23:09,688 --> 00:23:14,960

those things become easier.

 

584

00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:16,094

So I don't know.

 

585

00:23:16,094 --> 00:23:18,830

I think that probably

 

586

00:23:18,830 --> 00:23:20,732

whatever it takes to gain trust,

 

587

00:23:20,732 --> 00:23:21,867

all those things that you can do

 

588

00:23:21,867 --> 00:23:23,135

by showing up on time

 

589

00:23:23,135 --> 00:23:24,035

and do all these things

 

590

00:23:24,035 --> 00:23:25,637

and being professional and

 

591

00:23:25,637 --> 00:23:26,838

and just from the very beginning,

 

592

00:23:26,838 --> 00:23:28,106

setting the table

 

593

00:23:28,106 --> 00:23:29,374

by how you treat their home

 

594

00:23:29,374 --> 00:23:30,375

and those type of things.

 

595

00:23:30,375 --> 00:23:33,545

I think the one thing that can combat

 

596

00:23:33,545 --> 00:23:34,980

all these things we talked about

 

597

00:23:34,980 --> 00:23:36,081

that are subjective

 

598

00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:37,816

and like I said, I know it painful.

 

599

00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:39,217

It ain't bulletproof

 

600

00:23:39,217 --> 00:23:40,819

because you're going to run across people

 

601

00:23:40,819 --> 00:23:42,120

sometimes that is complete.

 

602

00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:45,357

There, irrationally, out of control.

 

603

00:23:45,457 --> 00:23:47,826

There's no talking to them.

 

604

00:23:47,893 --> 00:23:48,560

Once in a while

 

605

00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,162

I'll I'll, I'll,

 

606

00:23:50,162 --> 00:23:52,297

I don't know, do so much anymore because.

 

607

00:23:52,297 --> 00:23:53,532

Well you know,

 

608

00:23:53,532 --> 00:23:59,971

but when I was a territory manager.

 

609

00:24:00,038 --> 00:24:03,041

Yeah.

 

610

00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:05,010

I'd have to do inspections

 

611

00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:07,646

and sometimes I would be there,

 

612

00:24:07,646 --> 00:24:08,146

and I'm, like,

 

613

00:24:08,146 --> 00:24:09,748

getting sick to my stomach,

 

614

00:24:09,748 --> 00:24:10,982

listening to the homeowner talking.

 

615

00:24:10,982 --> 00:24:11,917

It's not even my job,

 

616

00:24:11,917 --> 00:24:13,685

but it feels like it's my job.

 

617

00:24:13,685 --> 00:24:14,286

You know what I mean?

 

618

00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:16,421

Because they're putting their contractors

 

619

00:24:16,421 --> 00:24:19,424

through so much hell and.

 

620

00:24:19,491 --> 00:24:21,092

And you know that.

 

621

00:24:21,092 --> 00:24:22,093

And you're there to,

 

622

00:24:22,093 --> 00:24:22,994

you know, the customer.

 

623

00:24:22,994 --> 00:24:25,397

The contractor is always my customer.

 

624

00:24:25,397 --> 00:24:27,833

And but sometimes it's just

 

625

00:24:27,833 --> 00:24:28,867

you realize that you're in a

 

626

00:24:28,867 --> 00:24:30,535

no win situation here

 

627

00:24:30,535 --> 00:24:35,173

and sometimes in a no win situation, man,

 

628

00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,875

you know,

 

629

00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:38,176

you never want to have to go to

 

630

00:24:38,176 --> 00:24:39,478

where like, I'm not going to pay you,

 

631

00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:41,012

I'm not going to quarter

 

632

00:24:41,012 --> 00:24:42,113

to quarter those type of things.

 

633

00:24:42,113 --> 00:24:45,417

But sometimes the best thing you can do

 

634

00:24:45,517 --> 00:24:48,453

is just power through that one job and

 

635

00:24:48,453 --> 00:24:49,521

to get to the next one

 

636

00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:51,890

and put it behind you and move on.

 

637

00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:53,859

There's 52 weeks in a year

 

638

00:24:53,859 --> 00:24:56,328

and we are probably in 30 people's homes

 

639

00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:58,063

in that year's time.

 

640

00:24:58,063 --> 00:25:00,966

And we always remember the bad one.

 

641

00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:02,434

You know, it seemed like every year

 

642

00:25:02,434 --> 00:25:04,236

there was like one, you know what I mean?

 

643

00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:09,908

Your case probably 20 or 30.

 

644

00:25:09,975 --> 00:25:10,976

Just come on.

 

645

00:25:10,976 --> 00:25:13,044

You know, I'm just just kidding.

 

646

00:25:13,044 --> 00:25:16,381

We're friends here.

 

647

00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:17,616

No, no, no, no.

 

648

00:25:17,616 --> 00:25:19,384

It's all good.

 

649

00:25:19,384 --> 00:25:23,455

Now that.

 

650

00:25:23,555 --> 00:25:25,390

Yeah.

 

651

00:25:25,390 --> 00:27:20,739

So what do you think on that, Rob?

 

652

00:27:20,805 --> 00:27:24,743

So this might surprise you, but I.

 

653

00:27:24,843 --> 00:27:26,778

wow.

 

654

00:27:26,778 --> 00:27:28,847

Yeah, No, I agree with you.

 

655

00:27:28,847 --> 00:27:29,648

I agree with you.

 

656

00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:34,619

I'd say the same thing, and I.

 

657

00:27:34,686 --> 00:27:36,521

Well, one guy that doesn't like that bill

 

658

00:27:36,521 --> 00:27:37,722

going to be really, really mad.

 

659

00:27:37,722 --> 00:27:43,361

Now,

 

660

00:27:43,428 --> 00:27:45,697

I was with I don't

 

661

00:27:45,697 --> 00:27:46,531

know.

 

662

00:27:46,531 --> 00:27:47,165

Here's the thing.

 

663

00:27:47,165 --> 00:27:49,601

I always felt like

 

664

00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:50,135

I do,

 

665

00:27:50,135 --> 00:27:51,336

but I felt like

 

666

00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:53,038

I was a good communicator.

 

667

00:27:53,038 --> 00:27:54,039

But. But.

 

668

00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,007

But. No, but don't. Hang on. Say it.

 

669

00:27:56,007 --> 00:27:57,776

But even then,

 

670

00:27:57,776 --> 00:27:58,777

I still feel like

 

671

00:27:58,777 --> 00:28:00,679

I would have to communicate more.

 

672

00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:01,479

But here's.

 

673

00:28:01,479 --> 00:28:03,515

Here's what I think about that.

 

674

00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:05,150

You.

 

675

00:28:05,150 --> 00:28:13,992

Yeah.

 

676

00:28:14,059 --> 00:28:19,664

I have about a ten

 

677

00:28:19,731 --> 00:28:22,300

of a good 9.5.

 

678

00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:23,902

Yeah.

 

679

00:28:23,902 --> 00:28:24,436

Thank you.

 

680

00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:40,552

Look, I think that.

 

681

00:28:40,652 --> 00:28:41,086

There you go.

 

682

00:28:41,086 --> 00:28:43,354

Thank you.

 

683

00:28:43,354 --> 00:28:45,623

So

 

684

00:28:45,623 --> 00:28:47,092

here's here's the thing.

 

685

00:28:47,092 --> 00:28:50,095

You only have so much energy and passion

 

686

00:28:50,295 --> 00:28:51,496

in a day's time.

 

687

00:28:51,496 --> 00:28:52,664

You know what I mean?

 

688

00:28:52,664 --> 00:28:55,233

And my energy and passion was

 

689

00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:56,634

put towards finishing that job

 

690

00:28:56,634 --> 00:28:58,503

as best I can possibly do.

 

691

00:28:58,503 --> 00:28:59,738

That's where all my energy

 

692

00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:01,539

and passion is going towards.

 

693

00:29:01,539 --> 00:29:02,741

And you know what?

 

694

00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,209

I could have put more towards

 

695

00:29:04,209 --> 00:29:05,910

communicating more,

 

696

00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:08,413

but I've always felt like problem

 

697

00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:09,514

maybe wrongly or whatever,

 

698

00:29:09,514 --> 00:29:10,682

maybe arrogantly or whatever.

 

699

00:29:10,682 --> 00:29:12,183

But I always feel like you should know

 

700

00:29:12,183 --> 00:29:12,751

I'm doing

 

701

00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:13,918

everything humanly possible

 

702

00:29:13,918 --> 00:29:15,787

to make your floor perfect.

 

703

00:29:15,787 --> 00:29:17,388

I'm doing everything in everything

 

704

00:29:17,388 --> 00:29:19,124

I possibly can to be on schedule

 

705

00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:20,325

and do your job and blah, blah,

 

706

00:29:20,325 --> 00:29:22,594

blah, as nice as I possibly can.

 

707

00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:23,895

No other project comes

 

708

00:29:23,895 --> 00:29:24,629

before this one,

 

709

00:29:24,629 --> 00:29:27,532

and I want it to be the best experience

 

710

00:29:27,532 --> 00:29:30,435

you've ever had. But

 

711

00:29:30,535 --> 00:29:31,836

I didn't communicate that

 

712

00:29:31,836 --> 00:29:34,105

probably near as much as that.

 

713

00:29:34,105 --> 00:29:35,874

What I'm just telling you right now,

 

714

00:29:35,874 --> 00:29:37,475

I feel like they should expect

 

715

00:29:37,475 --> 00:29:38,143

that out of me.

 

716

00:29:38,143 --> 00:29:39,177

I was referred to them

 

717

00:29:39,177 --> 00:29:40,245

and blah, blah, blah.

 

718

00:29:40,245 --> 00:29:42,280

But even having said that,

 

719

00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,948

I think that I probably could have done

 

720

00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:45,884

a better job in communicating

 

721

00:29:45,884 --> 00:29:48,219

and playing the game a little bit more.

 

722

00:29:48,219 --> 00:29:51,222

For instance, I know somebody

 

723

00:29:51,389 --> 00:29:52,524

who would like send flowers

 

724

00:29:52,524 --> 00:29:53,691

at the end of the job,

 

725

00:29:53,691 --> 00:29:54,726

you know,

 

726

00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:55,326

or send,

 

727

00:29:55,326 --> 00:29:56,361

you know, magazine

 

728

00:29:56,361 --> 00:29:57,729

subscriptions, whatever.

 

729

00:29:57,729 --> 00:29:58,863

I feel like

 

730

00:29:58,863 --> 00:30:00,064

they should send me flowers

 

731

00:30:00,064 --> 00:30:03,301

at the end of the job.

 

732

00:30:03,368 --> 00:30:06,137

You were so lucky to get me.

 

733

00:30:06,137 --> 00:30:06,738

You know what I mean?

 

734

00:30:06,738 --> 00:30:07,739

That used to be sending me

 

735

00:30:07,739 --> 00:30:09,607

flowers is the way I really in my mind,

 

736

00:30:09,607 --> 00:30:11,609

that's what I felt.

 

737

00:30:11,676 --> 00:30:12,110

So it's

 

738

00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:15,113

tough for me to to do the other.

 

739

00:30:15,246 --> 00:30:23,087

You know what I mean?

 

740

00:30:23,188 --> 00:30:23,822

Now?

 

741

00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:27,559

I mean, come on.

 

742

00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:30,195

I'm trying my best

 

743

00:30:30,195 --> 00:30:39,671

to be humble.

 

744

00:30:39,737 --> 00:30:45,677

Yeah,

 

745

00:30:45,777 --> 00:30:46,845

No, but

 

746

00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:51,349

did you ever get tips that

 

747

00:30:51,449 --> 00:30:51,749

I was.

 

748

00:30:51,749 --> 00:30:53,017

If

 

749

00:30:53,017 --> 00:30:56,020

I was offended by tips?

 

750

00:30:56,054 --> 00:30:58,857

Truly, I never took a tip from nobody in.

 

751

00:30:58,857 --> 00:30:59,657

And I always

 

752

00:30:59,657 --> 00:31:01,226

when they give me a tip or whatever,

 

753

00:31:01,226 --> 00:31:01,926

I always gave to whoever

 

754

00:31:01,926 --> 00:31:03,261

I was working with.

 

755

00:31:03,261 --> 00:31:04,796

One guy had me one time.

 

756

00:31:04,796 --> 00:31:06,631

I went there to pick up the check.

 

757

00:31:06,631 --> 00:31:07,532

It was in black.

 

758

00:31:07,532 --> 00:31:08,766

I'll never forget it

 

759

00:31:08,766 --> 00:31:09,801

because I'll never forget

 

760

00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:10,735

because a kid was going

 

761

00:31:10,735 --> 00:31:11,736

to the Air Force Academy,

 

762

00:31:11,736 --> 00:31:13,538

which I was so impressed with, like, man,

 

763

00:31:13,538 --> 00:31:15,340

that that to me, that means a lot.

 

764

00:31:15,340 --> 00:31:16,140

I mean,

 

765

00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:18,109

that to me is the highest going on.

 

766

00:31:18,109 --> 00:31:18,943

One of the academies.

 

767

00:31:18,943 --> 00:31:20,478

Like, I'm so impressed.

 

768

00:31:20,478 --> 00:31:22,614

They said, No, no, don't leave yet.

 

769

00:31:22,614 --> 00:31:24,415

My, my, my husband's going to be home.

 

770

00:31:24,415 --> 00:31:25,850

He wants to give you something.

 

771

00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:26,985

We're really happy with the job.

 

772

00:31:26,985 --> 00:31:28,686

We're really, you know,

 

773

00:31:28,686 --> 00:31:30,588

But he'll be home soon.

 

774

00:31:30,688 --> 00:31:32,423

I will be, like 45 minutes with this guy,

 

775

00:31:32,423 --> 00:31:34,058

you know? Right.

 

776

00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:35,393

So they get somebody goes, Ben,

 

777

00:31:35,393 --> 00:31:36,761

this is really and it's like,

 

778

00:31:36,761 --> 00:31:38,062

I don't know, 2000 square foot job

 

779

00:31:38,062 --> 00:31:39,964

because this is really to expectations.

 

780

00:31:39,964 --> 00:31:40,632

We're really happy

 

781

00:31:40,632 --> 00:31:43,134

and I want to want to give you this.

 

782

00:31:43,134 --> 00:31:45,336

Hear me?

 

783

00:31:45,336 --> 00:31:49,274

You give me $40

 

784

00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:50,942

so you know the welcome home,

 

785

00:31:50,942 --> 00:31:54,379

the welcome mat

 

786

00:31:54,479 --> 00:31:55,446

it is.

 

787

00:31:55,446 --> 00:31:56,648

So when I went outside,

 

788

00:31:56,648 --> 00:31:57,815

you know, the welcome mat,

 

789

00:31:57,815 --> 00:31:59,050

I lifted up the welcome mat

 

790

00:31:59,050 --> 00:32:00,852

and I stuck it under the welcome mat.

 

791

00:32:00,852 --> 00:32:04,255

And I left

 

792

00:32:04,355 --> 00:32:07,058

it both ways around.

 

793

00:32:07,058 --> 00:32:07,892

You know, we have

 

794

00:32:07,892 --> 00:32:10,895

have we wait for 45 minutes.

 

795

00:32:11,129 --> 00:32:11,863

And there was just

 

796

00:32:11,863 --> 00:32:12,630

something about me

 

797

00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:13,598

towards the end of my career

 

798

00:32:13,598 --> 00:32:16,601

that I'm I'm a craftsman man,

 

799

00:32:16,734 --> 00:32:18,736

and I don't work for tips like that.

 

800

00:32:18,736 --> 00:32:19,437

You know,

 

801

00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:22,440

my job is a job and, you know, but no,

 

802

00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:28,947

it's a problem for me.

 

803

00:32:29,047 --> 00:32:30,748

It

 

804

00:32:30,748 --> 00:32:32,083

was I refuse it.

 

805

00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:34,385

No, I mean, I. I politely refuse to.

 

806

00:32:34,385 --> 00:32:34,986

No, no, no.

 

807

00:32:34,986 --> 00:32:58,409

You pay me livable.

 

808

00:32:58,476 --> 00:33:17,161

Yeah.

 

809

00:33:17,228 --> 00:33:26,237

Well,

 

810

00:33:26,304 --> 00:33:28,272

yeah.

 

811

00:33:28,272 --> 00:33:28,639

Thank you.

 

812

00:33:28,639 --> 00:33:40,918

I got that.

 

813

00:33:40,985 --> 00:33:54,065

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

 

814

00:33:54,132 --> 00:34:07,712

yeah,

 

815

00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:13,951

yeah.

 

816

00:34:14,018 --> 00:34:15,153

She hit her over the head

 

817

00:34:15,153 --> 00:34:18,156

with the bag and quarters.

 

818

00:34:18,322 --> 00:34:22,493

Yeah,

 

819

00:34:22,593 --> 00:34:24,762

yeah,

 

820

00:34:24,762 --> 00:34:35,740

yeah,

 

821

00:34:35,807 --> 00:34:46,217

yeah, yeah.

 

822

00:34:46,317 --> 00:35:18,916

Well,

 

823

00:35:19,016 --> 00:35:21,285

wow.

 

824

00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:22,120

And you.

 

825

00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,123

And you say I'm must.

 

826

00:35:25,156 --> 00:35:26,190

And you're acting like I'm

 

827

00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:29,927

the scumbag.

 

828

00:35:29,994 --> 00:35:33,131

No, listen, all ladies, that's different.

 

829

00:35:33,397 --> 00:35:34,832

And in that case,

 

830

00:35:34,832 --> 00:35:35,566

that'd be tough, though.

 

831

00:35:35,566 --> 00:35:38,569

The bag and quarters, man.

 

832

00:35:38,569 --> 00:35:39,670

That's the.

 

833

00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:40,438

But that's a good move.

 

834

00:35:40,438 --> 00:35:41,105

As I get older,

 

835

00:35:41,105 --> 00:35:42,206

I'll do stuff like that too,

 

836

00:35:42,206 --> 00:35:43,875

so that the poor old man, you know,

 

837

00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:45,109

you're nothing.

 

838

00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:48,412

But let me tell you about my old lady.

 

839

00:35:48,513 --> 00:35:50,014

My brother and I,

 

840

00:35:50,014 --> 00:35:50,515

we had a

 

841

00:35:50,515 --> 00:35:51,916

we all we had to do

 

842

00:35:51,916 --> 00:35:53,484

was put a coat on the floor.

 

843

00:35:53,484 --> 00:35:54,852

We're going to get a job. Okay.

 

844

00:35:54,852 --> 00:35:56,087

And that was it for the day.

 

845

00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:58,055

It was a long one or whatever.

 

846

00:35:58,055 --> 00:35:59,090

So that was it.

 

847

00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:00,458

That's all we're going to do now

 

848

00:36:00,458 --> 00:36:02,260

to travel lays out.

 

849

00:36:02,260 --> 00:36:03,594

It's kind of a rundown neighborhood,

 

850

00:36:03,594 --> 00:36:05,229

you know, down by this.

 

851

00:36:05,229 --> 00:36:05,830

We go in there

 

852

00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:08,833

and the floors are pretty beat up, right?

 

853

00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:09,934

And she asked me

 

854

00:36:09,934 --> 00:36:11,135

how much it was going to cost.

 

855

00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:14,672

And I told you the price. She goes, man,

 

856

00:36:14,739 --> 00:36:16,207

I'm so sorry I wasted your time.

 

857

00:36:16,207 --> 00:36:18,309

I don't have that kind of money.

 

858

00:36:18,309 --> 00:36:19,277

You see, my son,

 

859

00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:20,745

I haven't seen my son in ages.

 

860

00:36:20,745 --> 00:36:22,647

And he's coming for for the holidays.

 

861

00:36:22,647 --> 00:36:24,615

And I'm just embarrassed about that.

 

862

00:36:24,615 --> 00:36:26,117

The floors and

 

863

00:36:26,117 --> 00:36:28,386

and I know I didn't have a lot of money,

 

864

00:36:28,386 --> 00:36:29,020

but I was hoping

 

865

00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:30,555

I could spruce them up a little bit

 

866

00:36:30,555 --> 00:36:31,556

so you can see and just,

 

867

00:36:31,556 --> 00:36:32,290

you know,

 

868

00:36:32,290 --> 00:36:32,857

I don't know if I'm gonna

 

869

00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:33,691

get a tree this year

 

870

00:36:33,691 --> 00:36:35,526

because things are kind of tight, but

 

871

00:36:35,526 --> 00:36:37,628

but I thought of that the was

 

872

00:36:37,628 --> 00:36:39,664

we could get the floor looking nice.

 

873

00:36:39,664 --> 00:36:42,500

No man like

 

874

00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:44,936

I'm a sucker for all people, man.

 

875

00:36:44,936 --> 00:36:46,904

And so I said, well hang.

 

876

00:36:46,904 --> 00:36:47,271

Hey I said,

 

877

00:36:47,271 --> 00:36:48,906

so me and John when I said I said John,

 

878

00:36:48,906 --> 00:36:50,441

you know what man?

 

879

00:36:50,441 --> 00:36:51,375

We could we could probably.

 

880

00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:53,544

Wax is Warren Buffett for number two,

 

881

00:36:53,544 --> 00:36:54,579

still will wax it.

 

882

00:36:54,579 --> 00:36:55,279

And Buffett

 

883

00:36:55,279 --> 00:36:55,913

did make it look

 

884

00:36:55,913 --> 00:36:56,914

better than it is, you know,

 

885

00:36:56,914 --> 00:37:00,885

and then just go to lunch, all right? And

 

886

00:37:00,952 --> 00:37:02,286

he goes, Yeah, I don't care.

 

887

00:37:02,286 --> 00:37:04,222

I said, You grab the bumper.

 

888

00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:04,755

I go tell her.

 

889

00:37:04,755 --> 00:37:06,390

I said, Ma'am, I said, I can't stand.

 

890

00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:07,625

We refinished floor

 

891

00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:09,393

because we got a full schedule.

 

892

00:37:09,393 --> 00:37:10,728

But you know what we could do?

 

893

00:37:10,728 --> 00:37:12,230

I could wax and buff the floor.

 

894

00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:13,497

I mean, some of this stuff

 

895

00:37:13,497 --> 00:37:15,066

will buff out, right?

 

896

00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:16,534

And it'll give us some machine

 

897

00:37:16,534 --> 00:37:17,168

back to the floor

 

898

00:37:17,168 --> 00:37:18,169

and give some more longevity

 

899

00:37:18,169 --> 00:37:19,503

back to the floor. And that'll look nice.

 

900

00:37:19,503 --> 00:37:21,806

She goes, my gosh, it'll look nice.

 

901

00:37:21,806 --> 00:37:23,541

What's it going to charge me?

 

902

00:37:23,541 --> 00:37:24,242

Well, it cost me.

 

903

00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,911

And I said like, I think I said 40 bucks.

 

904

00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:28,613

Yeah, we're going to lunch.

 

905

00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:29,680

You know what I mean?

 

906

00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,148

So I wouldn't get out of bed.

 

907

00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:32,383

Who would get out of bed for 40 bucks?

 

908

00:37:32,383 --> 00:37:32,917

It's free.

 

909

00:37:32,917 --> 00:37:34,619

It's nothing but, you know, so.

 

910

00:37:34,619 --> 00:37:36,754

Okay, we're there.

 

911

00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:38,256

Yeah, yeah.

 

912

00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:39,357

So we're there

 

913

00:37:39,357 --> 00:37:40,825

and we spend way too long on it.

 

914

00:37:40,825 --> 00:37:42,260

Now, I'm kind of invested in this,

 

915

00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:43,227

as you would any project,

 

916

00:37:43,227 --> 00:37:44,495

you know, make it look the best I can.

 

917

00:37:44,495 --> 00:37:45,196

You know,

 

918

00:37:45,196 --> 00:37:46,797

So we get done after a couple hours

 

919

00:37:46,797 --> 00:37:47,632

and move furniture back.

 

920

00:37:47,632 --> 00:37:49,033

And I said, Well, there you go.

 

921

00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:51,202

Cheers. Is that it?

 

922

00:37:51,202 --> 00:37:53,671

I go, Yeah.

 

923

00:37:53,738 --> 00:37:55,306

He goes, You're done.

 

924

00:37:55,306 --> 00:37:56,407

I said, Yeah.

 

925

00:37:56,407 --> 00:37:57,475

And this is the words

 

926

00:37:57,475 --> 00:37:59,210

I will never forget, Rob.

 

927

00:37:59,210 --> 00:38:02,113

And this is 30 years ago, maybe longer.

 

928

00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:03,547

And I'll never forget these next words.

 

929

00:38:03,547 --> 00:38:04,582

He said,

 

930

00:38:04,582 --> 00:38:04,882

Well,

 

931

00:38:04,882 --> 00:38:08,953

an old washerwoman could have done that,

 

932

00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:11,956

but

 

933

00:38:11,956 --> 00:38:14,158

that's what I got

 

934

00:38:14,158 --> 00:38:16,494

for for me.

 

935

00:38:16,494 --> 00:38:17,128

My brother

 

936

00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:19,030

John and I laughed so hard in the van.

 

937

00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:20,398

We course we didn't take your money.

 

938

00:38:20,398 --> 00:38:21,165

Is you not happy?

 

939

00:38:21,165 --> 00:38:22,600

I went down with your money.

 

940

00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,669

But are you kidding me?

 

941

00:38:24,669 --> 00:38:26,103

So I.

 

942

00:38:26,103 --> 00:38:31,876

So there's a year to your Yang?

 

943

00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,711

Yeah,

 

944

00:38:33,711 --> 00:38:36,647

I guess.

 

945

00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:38,482

Yes, that was her exact words.

 

946

00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:39,850

And I'll never forget it.

 

947

00:38:39,850 --> 00:38:42,820

So.

 

948

00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:47,058

All right, So

 

949

00:38:47,124 --> 00:38:48,893

thinking I'm doing a nice deed.

 

950

00:38:48,893 --> 00:38:49,560

Yeah.

 

951

00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,998

Yeah,

 

952

00:38:54,065 --> 00:38:56,667

absolutely.

 

953

00:38:56,667 --> 00:39:01,839

No good deed goes unpunished,

 

954

00:39:01,906 --> 00:39:03,040

so.

 

955

00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,842

All right, well, we talked long enough.

 

956

00:39:04,842 --> 00:39:07,878

I don't know what we accomplished today.

 

957

00:39:07,978 --> 00:39:26,163

One thing I.

 

958

00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:27,398

okay, Hold on a sec.

 

959

00:39:27,398 --> 00:39:28,199

First of all,

 

960

00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:29,767

let me finish my thought on this show.

 

961

00:39:29,767 --> 00:39:31,369

We did we did accomplish one thing.

 

962

00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:33,337

If you haven't used Chroma,

 

963

00:39:33,337 --> 00:39:34,872

pick up a gallon

 

964

00:39:34,872 --> 00:39:36,207

just to try

 

965

00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:37,908

just a tint to finish, to see what's

 

966

00:39:37,908 --> 00:39:39,944

what's available to you,

 

967

00:39:39,944 --> 00:39:41,479

what is what is possible,

 

968

00:39:41,479 --> 00:39:43,013

because I think it'll blow your minds.

 

969

00:39:43,013 --> 00:39:44,648

Okay. That's that.

 

970

00:39:44,648 --> 00:39:46,951

I mean that sincerely.

 

971

00:39:46,951 --> 00:39:47,818

What is.

 

972

00:39:47,818 --> 00:39:48,652

What does it cost me?

 

973

00:39:48,652 --> 00:39:51,655

I, God, strike me dead.

 

974

00:39:51,756 --> 00:39:53,991

Okay, well, don't strike me dead.

 

975

00:39:53,991 --> 00:39:55,192

Don't strike me dead yet.

 

976

00:39:55,192 --> 00:40:05,369

Okay?

 

977

00:40:05,436 --> 00:40:07,638

Yeah.

 

978

00:40:07,638 --> 00:40:08,105

Okay.

 

979

00:40:08,105 --> 00:40:08,706

Very good.

 

980

00:40:08,706 --> 00:40:11,976

Okay.

 

981

00:40:12,042 --> 00:40:14,912

my wife and I were having lunch today

 

982

00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:16,013

or yesterday.

 

983

00:40:16,013 --> 00:40:16,947

Sunday,

 

984

00:40:16,947 --> 00:40:18,048

and I asked,

 

985

00:40:18,048 --> 00:40:19,717

Is that where I picked up the cat? Right.

 

986

00:40:19,717 --> 00:40:21,886

Told you I picked up the stray cat,

 

987

00:40:21,886 --> 00:40:23,287

and I asked Judy,

 

988

00:40:23,287 --> 00:40:24,989

I actually must have been today.

 

989

00:40:24,989 --> 00:40:25,656

I asked Judy.

 

990

00:40:25,656 --> 00:40:26,257

I said,

 

991

00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:27,024

Well, well,

 

992

00:40:27,024 --> 00:40:27,792

what do these cats

 

993

00:40:27,792 --> 00:40:30,127

cost us a month anyhow?

 

994

00:40:30,194 --> 00:40:30,861

You know, what

 

995

00:40:30,861 --> 00:40:33,864

is five cats and a dog cost us.

 

996

00:40:33,931 --> 00:40:36,434

Now we think about adding this other cat.

 

997

00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:37,535

It's not going to happen.

 

998

00:40:37,535 --> 00:40:40,704

She goes, I says it $500 a month.

 

999

00:40:40,805 --> 00:40:43,340

That'll be $6,000 a year.

 

1000

00:40:43,340 --> 00:40:46,110

So she goes, No, no, no.

 

1001

00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:47,912

The cat food is like $0.89 each.

 

1002

00:40:47,912 --> 00:40:49,980

They have like four of those a day.

 

1003

00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:50,915

And then

 

1004

00:40:50,915 --> 00:40:53,350

and then the dry food doesn't cost much.

 

1005

00:40:53,350 --> 00:40:54,185

So we're about two dogs.

 

1006

00:40:54,185 --> 00:40:54,485

She goes,

 

1007

00:40:54,485 --> 00:40:55,820

that dog eats the good stuff

 

1008

00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:57,021

because then used to feed it

 

1009

00:40:57,021 --> 00:40:58,355

really, you know, So that's expensive.

 

1010

00:40:58,355 --> 00:40:59,857

The dogs are expensive.

 

1011

00:40:59,857 --> 00:41:01,325

And of course as medical stuff I get.

 

1012

00:41:01,325 --> 00:41:02,993

What do you mean medical stuff?

 

1013

00:41:02,993 --> 00:41:04,595

She goes, he's on five medications.

 

1014

00:41:04,595 --> 00:41:08,699

I hope I'm not even on five medications.

 

1015

00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:10,267

One, she has to show her license

 

1016

00:41:10,267 --> 00:41:11,402

to get it.

 

1017

00:41:11,402 --> 00:41:13,471

She's I can't remember what the hell is.

 

1018

00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:15,606

In fact, Judy was on it

 

1019

00:41:15,606 --> 00:41:17,508

for for something she had a while back.

 

1020

00:41:17,508 --> 00:41:19,977

Same type of stuff. It's expensive.

 

1021

00:41:20,077 --> 00:41:21,745

So I don't know what it costs us.

 

1022

00:41:21,745 --> 00:41:23,214

The dogs are in cats.

 

1023

00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:23,581

I don't know,

 

1024

00:41:23,581 --> 00:41:25,082

but it's a lot of damn money.

 

1025

00:41:25,082 --> 00:41:26,617

So

 

1026

00:41:26,617 --> 00:41:29,987

what?

 

1027

00:41:30,087 --> 00:41:30,988

No, I don't think

 

1028

00:41:30,988 --> 00:41:32,256

I should be cheaper than myself.

 

1029

00:41:32,256 --> 00:41:34,458

I think.

 

1030

00:41:34,458 --> 00:41:37,328

All right, well, we've talked enough.

 

1031

00:41:37,328 --> 00:41:39,630

Okay, well, I'll tell you what.

 

1032

00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:40,831

This has been another episode

 

1033

00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:42,066

of On the Floor with Wayne and Bob.

 

1034

00:41:42,066 --> 00:41:43,601

Please stay tuned for another episode.