On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

The Art of the Estimate

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob discuss their experiences with how companies do estimates and why they are so important. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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Hello and welcome to another episode

 

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of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne

 

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Highlander, director of sales

 

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for Adhesives.

 

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I'm Rob Johnson from Bona Training.

 

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How are we doing, Rob?

 

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Oh, doing real good.

 

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How are you today?

 

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How you really doing, Rob?

 

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I'm really doing good.

 

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Are you really?

 

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Yeah. Good. Yeah, I am.

 

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Glad to hear that.

 

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Yeah, I'm a glass half full guy.

 

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Everybody knows that, so.

 

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All right, cool.

 

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Well, our.

 

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Episode today

 

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is going to be on on estimating.

 

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And you had an experience that you were

 

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kind of telling me about a little bit.

 

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So you seemed pretty hyped about it.

 

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So do spill the tea.

 

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I was really excited when that email.

 

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You could feel it in the email.

 

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I sent it.

 

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You could tell you're pretty amped up.

 

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Well, when Boehner lets me go

 

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and I have to go back to doing wood

 

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floors, I'm going to completely

 

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change the way that I

 

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used to do estimates.

 

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I mean, we had some unbelievable

 

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rain here in in the end of July.

 

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I mean, basin was flooded. It was bad.

 

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And I needed to redo my basement,

 

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concrete floor

 

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and install French drains and all that.

 

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I'd need to do that

 

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since I lived in this house.

 

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Which was since.

 

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Since 1990.

 

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Right.

 

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But you like.

 

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Well it's it's only three years.

 

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Yeah. Yeah, I've been putting this off.

 

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The foundations will last forever anyhow.

 

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Hey, you think so?

 

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Until they start to get

 

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wet and soft, huh?

 

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Yeah. So

 

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1:00 in the morning,

 

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the pumps are never stopping.

 

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They're never stopping.

 

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Okay,

 

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so 1:00 in the morning, I go online.

 

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I got to get my basement fixed.

 

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Yeah, I got it.

 

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I got to get some estimates.

 

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I got to do this. Finally,

 

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I send a

 

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company an email at 1:00 in the morning.

 

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They emailed me back

 

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9:00 the next morning.

 

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We received your email.

 

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Mr.

 

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Johnson, we understand, you know,

 

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but we've just sent you out a packet.

 

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Two days later,

 

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I get this huge packet in the mail.

 

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Big, thick packet of what

 

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this company is. What they do.

 

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Beautiful pictures.

 

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I mean, everything.

 

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They got me right then and there.

 

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I was hooked.

 

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And now I kind of was thinking about

 

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when I wrote that email to you,

 

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why that was a good idea.

 

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What they do

 

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right away

 

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when you're reading

 

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through all this stuff and everything

 

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they're going to do

 

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and just the quality

 

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of the marketing materials and everything

 

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right away, you know,

 

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this is going to be expensive. Mm hmm.

 

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It's almost

 

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like they completely set you up for it.

 

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They said the expectations

 

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right from the beginning.

 

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Right from the beginning.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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They double check

 

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to make sure they email me.

 

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Did you get the packet

 

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and read through it

 

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when I answered the email?

 

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Yes, I did.

 

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They said,

 

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we're going

 

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to call, set up an appointment

 

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two days later.

 

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I mean, everything they said

 

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they were going to do, they did.

 

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They didn't miss a beat.

 

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Two days later,

 

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I get a call.

 

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They set the appointment.

 

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The appointment is set a week

 

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before the appointment.

 

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They give me another call.

 

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The day before the appointment,

 

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they give me another call.

 

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We okay? Everything's still good.

 

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Tell them to get off your back.

 

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The morning of the appointment.

 

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I get a text.

 

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I will

 

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be there

 

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in between this time and this time.

 

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We all set.

 

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I mean, talk about follow up, right?

 

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To the point

 

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now where I'm like, oh my God,

 

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this is I'm excited, right?

 

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Still no one in the back of my head.

 

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This is going to cost me a fortune.

 

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Yeah.

 

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And it came out.

 

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Did the estimate.

 

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She pulls up a nice truck,

 

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not a Corvette,

 

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you know, just a nice work truck.

 

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Good condition.

 

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She comes out dressed

 

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nice work clothes, but work boots,

 

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you know?

 

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Yeah.

 

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Not too fancy, but clean.

 

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She's down there measuring,

 

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doing all this stuff.

 

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She says, I need about an hour.

 

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I said, you know, there

 

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anything she goes off,

 

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I need any questions,

 

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you know, I'll ask you.

 

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She asked me a couple of things

 

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pretty thorough.

 

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She's down there

 

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a good

 

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hour, hour and a half measure

 

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in looking at stuff,

 

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stealing my tools, I don't know.

 

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She comes up,

 

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we talk about the whole project

 

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for about 45 minutes.

 

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Kinda is giving me ballpark prices,

 

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but says, oh, I want to, you know,

 

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I want to get this all,

 

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you know,

 

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I'm going to get

 

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back to my desk, type it all up.

 

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I see the estimate the next day.

 

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Now we go back and forth

 

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on a couple of different

 

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options, a couple of different

 

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things, extras

 

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taking things away

 

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and thing, you know, blah, blah, blah.

 

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Every time I sent her an email

 

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within a day, I got the response

 

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that I was looking for.

 

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They came out

 

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when finally said,

 

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okay, we're going to go for it,

 

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give them a deposit.

 

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They give me a date,

 

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they send another guy out a week

 

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after they got the deposit

 

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to go through the her measurements just

 

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double checked about windows

 

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and this and that.

 

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I have never seen anything like it.

 

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I called two other places

 

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to get the same thing.

 

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One guy never returned the call

 

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and I called him a second time.

 

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I was trying to get three prices on this.

 

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One guy returns the call,

 

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the other guy calls me back.

 

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He doesn't return.

 

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Then the guy who calls me back, he goes,

 

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I really don't know

 

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when I'll be able

 

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to get out there and take a look at it.

 

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This guy lives in the town

 

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next to me, 10 minutes away. Yeah.

 

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And I go get getting the job.

 

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He goes, no,

 

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I don't even know how be able

 

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to get to the estimate

 

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like, like I really don't want this job.

 

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Wow.

 

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The whole time I'm rooting for the other.

 

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The first people

 

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that got in touch with me. Yep.

 

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I know

 

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they're going to be the more expensive,

 

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but I'm like,

 

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you're rooting for them almost because

 

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they just seem like the kind of people

 

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that I want to deal with onto,

 

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especially in today's day and age.

 

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Like I said, the other two guys,

 

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one blows me off and one says, Jeez,

 

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I don't know if I can even get here,

 

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you know,

 

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keep me in

 

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my call me in six months or something.

 

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I am if I ever have to get back into it,

 

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I am beating my kid over the head.

 

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You got to do it this way.

 

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Yep.

 

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And I think

 

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that whole package

 

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sending out that packet

 

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of just the products

 

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they use, what they do,

 

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who they are, and everything

 

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that just set the expectation right away.

 

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There was no charge for the estimate.

 

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And I know that there's

 

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a lot of people out there

 

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charging for estimates,

 

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but I

 

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think if you knew

 

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it was going to just buy this packet

 

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they sent out, I'm

 

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pretty sure you would know

 

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this is going to be an expensive deal.

 

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Do I really want to move forward with it?

 

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Yeah, just unbelievable.

 

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And I said, man,

 

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I want to do a show about this because

 

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like I said,

 

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they were so good, so professional,

 

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so on time with everything I was

 

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rooting for them to get this job

 

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in the back of my head.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Even still wanting to get

 

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a couple other prices

 

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just to test the waters,

 

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you know, they got a by default, but.

 

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Well, I'm not going to lie.

 

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That was

 

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I was going to throw some shade on there,

 

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but that was on point.

 

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I can see why you're so hyped about it.

 

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I think that is the longest

 

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in five years that I've ever talked

 

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straight on this show.

 

266

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You've

 

267

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your Canadian

 

268

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stories were not quite as long

 

269

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where they felt a lot longer.

 

270

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My friend my friend lives in Texas.

 

271

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He retired.

 

272

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He was a carpenter,

 

273

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a phenomenal carpenter.

 

274

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But, you know, he's

 

275

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60 some odd years old now and he retired

 

276

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and he wanted to have a garage

 

277

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built in his backyard,

 

278

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a really

 

279

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big built

 

280

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grand garage built in his backyard.

 

281

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He ended up going with a company

 

282

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and he goes, You know what?

 

283

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They did a fantastic job

 

284

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and I would never use them again,

 

285

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he said.

 

286

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Because the lack of communication is

 

287

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I could never pin the guy down.

 

288

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It was like

 

289

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I could never find out

 

290

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exactly where he is going to starting

 

291

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and he would never get back to me.

 

292

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And I always had to call him

 

293

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and it was just a nightmare

 

294

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getting a hold of the guy every time.

 

295

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And the guy

 

296

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would tell me how busy is and this,

 

297

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you know, all the projects

 

298

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he's got going on

 

299

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and and he would see the guy on Facebook

 

300

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saying, hey, you need a garage done.

 

301

00:09:26,866 --> 00:09:27,833

You know, make sure you call me

 

302

00:09:27,833 --> 00:09:28,634

blah, blah, blah.

 

303

00:09:28,634 --> 00:09:30,236

He goes, Meanwhile, I can't get him.

 

304

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He's in the middle of my project

 

305

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and I can't get him to,

 

306

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you know, to respond back to me.

 

307

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So I think communication

 

308

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is so important, man. It is.

 

309

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So now more than ever.

 

310

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I tell you what, you

 

311

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there's so many advantages.

 

312

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We talk about the disadvantage

 

313

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of the labor situation

 

314

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now, but there are so many advantages.

 

315

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You know,

 

316

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the only expression in the land of the

 

317

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blind, the one I man is king.

 

318

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When there are so many guys

 

319

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that just don't get back to the clients

 

320

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and they just don't communicate

 

321

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and they just don't do.

 

322

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Like you said,

 

323

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you were rooting for this person.

 

324

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You know,

 

325

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you're going to spend a lot of money

 

326

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and they're expensive

 

327

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and you are rooting for them

 

328

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because you became an advocate for them

 

329

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because they were so on the ball.

 

330

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And if they're smart,

 

331

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that turns into the dollar signs, right?

 

332

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I mean, you can. You can.

 

333

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That's where I wanted to roll this

 

334

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into the wood floor, guys.

 

335

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I knew they were going

 

336

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to be more expensive,

 

337

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but it didn't hurt.

 

338

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It doesn't hurt, you know,

 

339

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I mean, they have gone,

 

340

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oh, way over

 

341

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and above what I ever thought.

 

342

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They haven't even done the job yet.

 

343

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And I'm already recommending this company

 

344

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out there. Yeah.

 

345

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And they haven't done the work.

 

346

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Wow.

 

347

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Yeah, how crazy is that? But

 

348

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I think this is a

 

349

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this could

 

350

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definitely work for wood for guys too.

 

351

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You know,

 

352

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what a great, easy

 

353

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way to make extra money.

 

354

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You know,

 

355

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why are you seven

 

356

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or eight bucks a foot

 

357

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for seeing the finish?

 

358

00:11:08,801 --> 00:11:11,937

Yeah, well, here's why and here's why.

 

359

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You know, look at the communication.

 

360

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Yeah, look at there's no questions left.

 

361

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And likely you'll be suing them

 

362

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like all the other tradesman

 

363

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that's worked for you before it's done.

 

364

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But that's not the point at all.

 

365

00:11:28,054 --> 00:11:28,854

Every.

 

366

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Let's try to stay positive.

 

367

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Okay. All right.

 

368

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Okay. I'm so let's.

 

369

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Let's let's wait till.

 

370

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To the end, you.

 

371

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Know, let's wait for the pumps

 

372

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to break or something like that.

 

373

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So we go bad on this.

 

374

00:11:40,766 --> 00:11:42,268

Okay. Right now.

 

375

00:11:42,268 --> 00:11:44,437

Right now, it's all positive. Right now.

 

376

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I feel you.

 

377

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Only lean is pretty happy right now.

 

378

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Okay. There you go.

 

379

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Okay.

 

380

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She's

 

381

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she's had to spend a lot of time

 

382

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down in that dungeon,

 

383

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and that's what it is.

 

384

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It's a dungeon. Yeah. Yeah.

 

385

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Well, after all those years

 

386

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of not doing anything there,

 

387

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nothing good on you.

 

388

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Yeah.

 

389

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Oh, I would go down

 

390

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and put a new $89 sump

 

391

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pump in from true value.

 

392

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And, you know, like,

 

393

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so what are

 

394

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you going to make me for dinner?

 

395

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Yeah, I had to serve something good.

 

396

00:12:12,832 --> 00:12:14,333

Special. Yeah, yeah.

 

397

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No more standing

 

398

00:12:15,301 --> 00:12:17,169

water that you have to slosh through.

 

399

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Yeah.

 

400

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At one point in life,

 

401

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she had to wear boots.

 

402

00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,041

But you can turn that.

 

403

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You have to wear boots. Wow.

 

404

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That's pretty rough.

 

405

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It's that's it's a wet.

 

406

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It's a wet now.

 

407

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Well, I'm happy for you guys.

 

408

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Did you get that result?

 

409

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Listen,

 

410

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a lot of what you're talking about

 

411

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is upselling

 

412

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every single industry, upsells.

 

413

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And I'll give you

 

414

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a couple of good examples.

 

415

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You ever go to a restaurant

 

416

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and order a salad?

 

417

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All of the

 

418

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all of them now say,

 

419

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do you want to add a protein to it?

 

420

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You want to add a salmon to it

 

421

00:12:53,973 --> 00:12:56,776

with a salad with $17, right.

 

422

00:12:57,676 --> 00:12:58,744

$4 where you eat.

 

423

00:12:58,744 --> 00:12:59,245

But,

 

424

00:12:59,545 --> 00:13:01,147

you know, in a regular restaurant at 17.

 

425

00:13:01,147 --> 00:13:01,680

I was like,

 

426

00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:02,615

what are you

 

427

00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:04,049

at Ruth's Chris all the time

 

428

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now for $17 salad.

 

429

00:13:05,851 --> 00:13:06,952

I'm just making this up.

 

430

00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:08,587

You're a $17 salad

 

431

00:13:08,587 --> 00:13:10,289

and you're adding a protein.

 

432

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Well, that's a $9 add on to that.

 

433

00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:15,861

That's what I was going to say.

 

434

00:13:15,861 --> 00:13:19,999

$17 salad then goes up another $9 or $7

 

435

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if you get chicken on it

 

436

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or you get shrimp on it or whatever,

 

437

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that's a hell of an upsell.

 

438

00:13:23,869 --> 00:13:25,604

If they only offered the salad

 

439

00:13:25,604 --> 00:13:28,007

at the end of the year, what that salad

 

440

00:13:28,007 --> 00:13:30,209

really that salad is just sets the stage

 

441

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for where you really make your money.

 

442

00:13:32,444 --> 00:13:33,412

So and

 

443

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I'll give you another great example

 

444

00:13:34,547 --> 00:13:38,050

since that one was so good, Uber,

 

445

00:13:38,851 --> 00:13:40,586

when Uber first came out,

 

446

00:13:40,586 --> 00:13:42,154

you could call somebody to get it right.

 

447

00:13:42,154 --> 00:13:43,055

Okay.

 

448

00:13:43,322 --> 00:13:44,290

I'll say you have the

 

449

00:13:44,290 --> 00:13:46,158

like the Uber XL, where

 

450

00:13:46,158 --> 00:13:46,926

now you get to take

 

451

00:13:46,926 --> 00:13:48,427

the big black Escalades

 

452

00:13:48,427 --> 00:13:49,261

into with white glove

 

453

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service and, you know, really nice again,

 

454

00:13:51,931 --> 00:13:53,899

an experience you'll never know.

 

455

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But but it's out there.

 

456

00:13:55,201 --> 00:13:58,103

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

 

457

00:13:58,103 --> 00:14:00,272

I've ordered over black before.

 

458

00:14:00,539 --> 00:14:02,174

It by accident, wasn't it?

 

459

00:14:02,174 --> 00:14:03,409

And then it.

 

460

00:14:03,409 --> 00:14:05,144

Now I like a big car.

 

461

00:14:05,144 --> 00:14:06,278

Come on, look at me.

 

462

00:14:06,278 --> 00:14:06,979

All right. Yeah.

 

463

00:14:06,979 --> 00:14:09,548

You know, I've seen.

 

464

00:14:09,548 --> 00:14:10,182

I've seen

 

465

00:14:10,182 --> 00:14:12,384

what Uber can show up with sometimes.

 

466

00:14:12,384 --> 00:14:13,152

Yeah.

 

467

00:14:13,252 --> 00:14:16,222

You know, Guy pulls up in a Celica for,

 

468

00:14:16,422 --> 00:14:18,224

you know, me and somebody. Our car.

 

469

00:14:19,191 --> 00:14:20,125

Let's go with the black.

 

470

00:14:20,125 --> 00:14:21,660

I learned that from Bill Price.

 

471

00:14:21,660 --> 00:14:23,562

Just go with the black over black.

 

472

00:14:23,562 --> 00:14:24,897

Yeah. Okay.

 

473

00:14:25,197 --> 00:14:25,831

Well, now

 

474

00:14:25,831 --> 00:14:27,933

you can order a burrito for ten bucks,

 

475

00:14:27,933 --> 00:14:29,034

you know what I mean?

 

476

00:14:29,034 --> 00:14:31,303

Now they've the everybody upsells.

 

477

00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:32,371

There's a

 

478

00:14:32,371 --> 00:14:33,272

there's a company out

 

479

00:14:33,272 --> 00:14:35,774

there, a shoe company called Noble Shoes

 

480

00:14:36,442 --> 00:14:38,878

and they'll be ULA

 

481

00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:41,080

and they're like a boutique

 

482

00:14:41,814 --> 00:14:44,183

running shoe or whatever, whatever.

 

483

00:14:44,183 --> 00:14:44,650

And at first

 

484

00:14:44,650 --> 00:14:46,685

he came out with kind of the basic shoes,

 

485

00:14:46,685 --> 00:14:48,120

and now they're like 109.

 

486

00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,722

And I don't have a pair, by the way,

 

487

00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:53,192

$189 for this, you know, fancy shoe.

 

488

00:14:53,492 --> 00:14:54,260

And what they do,

 

489

00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:55,027

they make you feel like

 

490

00:14:55,027 --> 00:14:56,462

you're part of a community.

 

491

00:14:56,462 --> 00:14:57,696

When they do so much

 

492

00:14:57,696 --> 00:14:59,198

advertising, social media stuff,

 

493

00:14:59,198 --> 00:15:00,032

they make you feel like you're

 

494

00:15:00,032 --> 00:15:01,967

special part of a club and everything.

 

495

00:15:01,967 --> 00:15:05,070

So I'll tell you,

 

496

00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:06,972

upselling is so damn important and

 

497

00:15:06,972 --> 00:15:08,340

there are ways you can upsell

 

498

00:15:10,276 --> 00:15:11,243

for sure,

 

499

00:15:11,243 --> 00:15:13,679

with, with, with in the form industry,

 

500

00:15:14,313 --> 00:15:14,680

you know,

 

501

00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,015

I mean, there's pretty obvious ways,

 

502

00:15:16,015 --> 00:15:16,649

you know, the floor

 

503

00:15:16,649 --> 00:15:17,583

vans and stuff like that,

 

504

00:15:17,583 --> 00:15:18,684

but there's a lot of different ways

 

505

00:15:18,684 --> 00:15:19,718

you can upsell

 

506

00:15:19,718 --> 00:15:22,021

even with finish, certainly with finish.

 

507

00:15:23,222 --> 00:15:24,890

And if you're using, you know,

 

508

00:15:24,890 --> 00:15:27,126

if you spent the money on a on a

 

509

00:15:27,126 --> 00:15:29,628

on a power drive, talk about it.

 

510

00:15:29,628 --> 00:15:30,729

I would absolutely talk about

 

511

00:15:30,729 --> 00:15:33,165

if you use a Tampico brush, you know,

 

512

00:15:33,966 --> 00:15:36,135

and you're not you're not

 

513

00:15:36,302 --> 00:15:36,635

letting them

 

514

00:15:36,635 --> 00:15:37,503

know that this is something

 

515

00:15:37,503 --> 00:15:38,737

that you're doing.

 

516

00:15:38,737 --> 00:15:40,372

I would 100% talk about that.

 

517

00:15:40,372 --> 00:15:41,073

These are the

 

518

00:15:41,073 --> 00:15:41,707

these are the reasons

 

519

00:15:41,707 --> 00:15:43,676

why our price is what it is.

 

520

00:15:43,676 --> 00:15:46,145

In my sanding packet, I would have

 

521

00:15:46,145 --> 00:15:46,712

of course

 

522

00:15:46,712 --> 00:15:48,347

the and traffic brochures,

 

523

00:15:48,347 --> 00:15:49,481

I'd have bone a product

 

524

00:15:49,481 --> 00:15:50,983

brochures in there,

 

525

00:15:50,983 --> 00:15:52,418

I'd have just what you were just

 

526

00:15:52,418 --> 00:15:55,321

saying, flush mount vents, medallions

 

527

00:15:55,988 --> 00:15:57,423

all up, sell things

 

528

00:15:57,423 --> 00:15:59,725

all part of that packet. Let people start

 

529

00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:01,126

going

 

530

00:16:01,126 --> 00:16:02,962

through that stuff and then going, Oh,

 

531

00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:04,229

can I have this cake?

 

532

00:16:04,229 --> 00:16:05,230

Even though I have a floor?

 

533

00:16:05,230 --> 00:16:06,498

Can you still put a medallion?

 

534

00:16:06,498 --> 00:16:08,400

It Oh hell yeah.

 

535

00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:08,767

Yeah.

 

536

00:16:08,767 --> 00:16:10,903

There's a hell of an opportunity.

 

537

00:16:10,903 --> 00:16:11,637

And if,

 

538

00:16:12,237 --> 00:16:12,571

you know,

 

539

00:16:12,571 --> 00:16:14,640

I think yeah, I would, you know,

 

540

00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,774

everybody should be striving

 

541

00:16:15,774 --> 00:16:17,910

to be the highest priced guy

 

542

00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:18,844

in their territory.

 

543

00:16:18,844 --> 00:16:20,279

If you're going to be

 

544

00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:21,480

the highest priced guy,

 

545

00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,115

you better give them

 

546

00:16:23,115 --> 00:16:24,483

the best estimate

 

547

00:16:24,483 --> 00:16:26,552

they've ever had in their life.

 

548

00:16:26,552 --> 00:16:28,087

That's what I had this.

 

549

00:16:28,087 --> 00:16:30,923

They gave me the best estimate

 

550

00:16:30,923 --> 00:16:32,958

that I've ever had from anybody, ever,

 

551

00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:36,161

when they and they're expensive

 

552

00:16:36,161 --> 00:16:37,896

and they're and they're getting the job.

 

553

00:16:37,896 --> 00:16:38,097

Yeah.

 

554

00:16:38,097 --> 00:16:41,200

But you know so far

 

555

00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,136

that experience has really set the tone

 

556

00:16:44,136 --> 00:16:45,304

like, man,

 

557

00:16:45,304 --> 00:16:46,171

I am working with

 

558

00:16:46,171 --> 00:16:48,140

some serious people here.

 

559

00:16:48,140 --> 00:16:48,807

Yeah,

 

560

00:16:49,208 --> 00:16:50,409

well here's, here's

 

561

00:16:50,409 --> 00:16:52,711

the thing about about it right now.

 

562

00:16:52,711 --> 00:16:54,980

I mean, it's a great way to add profit

 

563

00:16:54,980 --> 00:16:56,815

to your business and what have you.

 

564

00:16:56,815 --> 00:16:58,851

And the other thing is that okay

 

565

00:16:58,884 --> 00:16:59,818

with a labor shortage

 

566

00:16:59,818 --> 00:17:00,753

and if you can't scale

 

567

00:17:00,753 --> 00:17:01,720

up because of that,

 

568

00:17:02,721 --> 00:17:03,722

you are

 

569

00:17:03,889 --> 00:17:04,623

it's easier to

 

570

00:17:04,623 --> 00:17:06,525

to to upsell than it is

 

571

00:17:06,525 --> 00:17:06,859

to go out

 

572

00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:08,527

and get new clients or whatever.

 

573

00:17:08,527 --> 00:17:10,562

And you've already driven to the job,

 

574

00:17:10,596 --> 00:17:10,863

you know,

 

575

00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:11,930

I mean, you've already pulled this

 

576

00:17:11,930 --> 00:17:13,098

and you've

 

577

00:17:13,098 --> 00:17:13,966

you've pulled the Sanders

 

578

00:17:13,966 --> 00:17:15,267

out of the truck,

 

579

00:17:15,267 --> 00:17:16,735

you've driven to the job,

 

580

00:17:16,735 --> 00:17:18,604

you've done these things.

 

581

00:17:18,604 --> 00:17:20,672

You pay the same amount of gas

 

582

00:17:20,806 --> 00:17:22,141

to make these trips.

 

583

00:17:22,141 --> 00:17:24,510

So if you can upsell on those as well,

 

584

00:17:24,510 --> 00:17:26,011

find ways to upsell,

 

585

00:17:26,011 --> 00:17:28,647

then on that job, you'll, you'll

 

586

00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:30,649

extract more money out of that job

 

587

00:17:30,649 --> 00:17:31,383

to the bottom line at

 

588

00:17:31,383 --> 00:17:32,918

the end of year is incredibly

 

589

00:17:32,918 --> 00:17:36,255

the difference is incredible can be

 

590

00:17:36,255 --> 00:17:36,989

and

 

591

00:17:37,823 --> 00:17:39,058

and you've created a better

 

592

00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:41,293

customer experience you know what I mean?

 

593

00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:42,928

I keep going back to the same story

 

594

00:17:42,928 --> 00:17:44,263

because it was so impactful for me

 

595

00:17:44,263 --> 00:17:45,631

when I was going to buy a pickup truck

 

596

00:17:45,631 --> 00:17:46,532

the first time I was going buy

 

597

00:17:46,532 --> 00:17:48,167

a nice truck for myself

 

598

00:17:48,167 --> 00:17:49,735

when the guy just thought

 

599

00:17:49,735 --> 00:17:51,603

that I was basic, you know what I mean?

 

600

00:17:51,603 --> 00:17:52,771

He thought I was going to go over it.

 

601

00:17:52,771 --> 00:17:54,807

He had no idea that you were

 

602

00:17:54,807 --> 00:17:56,008

a corporate stooge.

 

603

00:17:56,008 --> 00:17:57,776

The $17 salads.

 

604

00:17:57,776 --> 00:17:59,478

Exactly. Yeah.

 

605

00:17:59,478 --> 00:18:00,946

He just thought you were a.

 

606

00:18:00,946 --> 00:18:03,382

Oh, look at this guy.

 

607

00:18:03,382 --> 00:18:04,616

On the other side of the lot.

 

608

00:18:04,616 --> 00:18:06,218

I'm seeing the nice trucks.

 

609

00:18:06,218 --> 00:18:08,087

Yeah, let me move that one.

 

610

00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:09,054

Try to get this guy

 

611

00:18:09,054 --> 00:18:10,823

over to the used car aisle.

 

612

00:18:10,823 --> 00:18:11,723

Absolutely.

 

613

00:18:11,723 --> 00:18:13,125

And so I'm over there

 

614

00:18:13,125 --> 00:18:14,393

looking at these ones.

 

615

00:18:14,393 --> 00:18:15,060

It's like those

 

616

00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:16,161

are the ones I want over there.

 

617

00:18:16,161 --> 00:18:17,329

Why would he bring me to these ones?

 

618

00:18:17,329 --> 00:18:18,630

Here is bad.

 

619

00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:20,599

And the other thing, too, he didn't know.

 

620

00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:21,100

He should have asked

 

621

00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:22,501

more questions about me.

 

622

00:18:22,501 --> 00:18:23,902

You should have asked me

 

623

00:18:23,902 --> 00:18:24,736

rather than bring me over.

 

624

00:18:24,736 --> 00:18:25,871

There is a bad, bad,

 

625

00:18:27,272 --> 00:18:29,708

bad sales salesmanship.

 

626

00:18:29,708 --> 00:18:34,379

So anyhow, again, I think you justify the

 

627

00:18:34,413 --> 00:18:36,682

the quality that you're adding to the job

 

628

00:18:36,682 --> 00:18:38,350

and except you're

 

629

00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:39,852

driving to that place anyhow.

 

630

00:18:39,852 --> 00:18:40,152

That's why

 

631

00:18:40,152 --> 00:18:41,553

I never understood

 

632

00:18:41,553 --> 00:18:44,656

like you have a, a restaurant that

 

633

00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:47,993

that's open for, for, let's say breakfast

 

634

00:18:47,993 --> 00:18:50,095

and lunch is closed the rest of day.

 

635

00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:53,132

Well, you that location,

 

636

00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:54,233

you know, if you're not serving

 

637

00:18:54,233 --> 00:18:55,667

dinner or whatever, I mean, it's

 

638

00:18:55,667 --> 00:18:58,670

you have the same location,

 

639

00:18:58,670 --> 00:18:59,438

you know what I mean?

 

640

00:18:59,438 --> 00:19:01,573

To make the money, the money that place.

 

641

00:19:01,573 --> 00:19:02,941

So, gosh, why wouldn't

 

642

00:19:02,941 --> 00:19:03,442

you seem like

 

643

00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:05,077

I mean, the staffing issues and all that,

 

644

00:19:05,077 --> 00:19:06,512

but it just seems like, all right,

 

645

00:19:06,512 --> 00:19:07,980

you have the same amount of time

 

646

00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:08,413

you still had.

 

647

00:19:08,413 --> 00:19:10,048

You have 24 hours

 

648

00:19:10,048 --> 00:19:13,085

at that location every day.

 

649

00:19:13,085 --> 00:19:15,354

You know, why not be open for the

 

650

00:19:15,354 --> 00:19:16,255

for dinner or whatever?

 

651

00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:17,055

Do something else there,

 

652

00:19:17,055 --> 00:19:17,689

because you've got

 

653

00:19:17,689 --> 00:19:18,423

you've already committed

 

654

00:19:18,423 --> 00:19:19,324

to everything, the rent

 

655

00:19:19,324 --> 00:19:19,858

and everything else.

 

656

00:19:19,858 --> 00:19:21,393

You got to see my location.

 

657

00:19:21,393 --> 00:19:22,861

So why just be open for two meals

 

658

00:19:22,861 --> 00:19:23,795

when you could do it for three?

 

659

00:19:23,795 --> 00:19:25,430

I don't know. You know,

 

660

00:19:27,132 --> 00:19:30,035

I told you when I used to be a bartender,

 

661

00:19:30,035 --> 00:19:31,036

the place I bartended.

 

662

00:19:31,036 --> 00:19:33,005

And then the guy who owned it,

 

663

00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:34,473

he turned it into a restaurant,

 

664

00:19:34,473 --> 00:19:35,240

but he kept the bar.

 

665

00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,275

So I was still bartender.

 

666

00:19:36,275 --> 00:19:36,842

Good thing was,

 

667

00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:39,278

if I was out of there by 11:00 at night,

 

668

00:19:39,278 --> 00:19:40,712

he served three meals a day.

 

669

00:19:40,712 --> 00:19:42,080

Do you know what is most profitable?

 

670

00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,349

Part of the day was dinner.

 

671

00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:45,951

Breakfast.

 

672

00:19:46,652 --> 00:19:47,352

Hmm.

 

673

00:19:48,453 --> 00:19:51,590

Said there is so much money in eggs.

 

674

00:19:52,391 --> 00:19:53,926

I believe that.

 

675

00:19:53,926 --> 00:19:56,528

He said breakfast is his

 

676

00:19:57,796 --> 00:19:58,997

top moneymaker.

 

677

00:19:58,997 --> 00:20:00,766

No profit. What? Profit wise?

 

678

00:20:00,766 --> 00:20:02,601

Yeah. Yeah, profit wise.

 

679

00:20:02,601 --> 00:20:03,101

He goes.

 

680

00:20:03,101 --> 00:20:05,103

There is nothing to a breakfast

 

681

00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:08,640

as far as cost and labor.

 

682

00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,441

Yeah.

 

683

00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:12,444

Well so you that brings up a good point

 

684

00:20:13,412 --> 00:20:14,646

and it's the same thing for floor guys.

 

685

00:20:14,646 --> 00:20:16,582

Where am I making my most money?

 

686

00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:18,617

Is it the prestigious job that's,

 

687

00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:19,051

you know,

 

688

00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:19,952

big 3000

 

689

00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:21,053

square foot job, very

 

690

00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:22,154

prestigious, whatever.

 

691

00:20:23,255 --> 00:20:24,456

At the end of the day

 

692

00:20:24,456 --> 00:20:26,158

is that we're making my most money

 

693

00:20:26,158 --> 00:20:27,659

or am I making my most money on this

 

694

00:20:27,659 --> 00:20:28,093

and job

 

695

00:20:28,093 --> 00:20:30,462

that's 800 square feet on the average.

 

696

00:20:30,462 --> 00:20:32,998

Is that my most profitable job

 

697

00:20:32,998 --> 00:20:36,034

or is is the the 300 square foot install

 

698

00:20:36,301 --> 00:20:37,869

my most profitable job?

 

699

00:20:37,869 --> 00:20:39,171

Where do I

 

700

00:20:39,171 --> 00:20:41,073

where do I if I break this down,

 

701

00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,508

make my most money makes me the most

 

702

00:20:43,508 --> 00:20:43,842

you know

 

703

00:20:43,842 --> 00:20:44,610

makes the most sense

 

704

00:20:44,610 --> 00:20:46,445

for me to specialize in.

 

705

00:20:46,445 --> 00:20:49,281

So maybe it's not those big

 

706

00:20:49,281 --> 00:20:50,582

this big monster jobs

 

707

00:20:50,582 --> 00:20:51,483

that you might think it is.

 

708

00:20:51,483 --> 00:20:52,784

And sometimes it is depends.

 

709

00:20:52,784 --> 00:20:53,118

You know,

 

710

00:20:53,118 --> 00:20:54,553

you just have to do the do the math

 

711

00:20:54,553 --> 00:20:56,955

and figure out what makes sense.

 

712

00:20:57,089 --> 00:20:59,091

Only you see, this is why you're

 

713

00:21:00,092 --> 00:21:01,426

you're such a professional.

 

714

00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:02,394

At this podcast,

 

715

00:21:03,528 --> 00:21:05,530

all I did was mention bacon and eggs.

 

716

00:21:05,797 --> 00:21:06,632

That's all

 

717

00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,934

I mentioned.

 

718

00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:10,669

Bacon and eggs.

 

719

00:21:10,969 --> 00:21:12,838

You write a story for all four

 

720

00:21:12,838 --> 00:21:15,974

guys on how it relates to them.

 

721

00:21:15,974 --> 00:21:17,776

I'm going to give you a bill that's.

 

722

00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:18,877

That was a good bill.

 

723

00:21:18,877 --> 00:21:20,979

Yeah, that was a good one.

 

724

00:21:20,979 --> 00:21:23,248

You're welcome.

 

725

00:21:23,248 --> 00:21:27,319

Oh, I'm hungry now.

 

726

00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:27,619

Okay.

 

727

00:21:27,619 --> 00:21:29,688

Oh, by the way, speaking of eggs,

 

728

00:21:29,688 --> 00:21:32,391

I have absolutely God strike me dead.

 

729

00:21:33,692 --> 00:21:36,628

Three weeks ago, I mastered the egg.

 

730

00:21:36,628 --> 00:21:38,297

Okay? It's taken me this long.

 

731

00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:39,197

I knew there was a.

 

732

00:21:39,197 --> 00:21:40,632

What are you, 60. Three?

 

733

00:21:40,632 --> 00:21:42,834

I know. Well, I never cooked before.

 

734

00:21:42,834 --> 00:21:44,670

Okay. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

 

735

00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:47,639

So recently, I'm telling you,

 

736

00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:48,273

I always knew

 

737

00:21:48,273 --> 00:21:49,675

there was a better way to cook an egg.

 

738

00:21:49,675 --> 00:21:51,543

I could never figure it out.

 

739

00:21:51,543 --> 00:21:53,512

And I tell you what it is now,

 

740

00:21:53,512 --> 00:21:54,112

because, you know,

 

741

00:21:54,112 --> 00:21:56,281

I like a crispy egg, like,

 

742

00:21:56,281 --> 00:21:56,648

you know,

 

743

00:21:56,648 --> 00:21:57,783

crispy egg and in

 

744

00:21:57,783 --> 00:22:00,218

but the yolk to be kind of medium like.

 

745

00:22:00,485 --> 00:22:01,620

Okay, yeah.

 

746

00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:03,622

All right. Here's the answer.

 

747

00:22:03,622 --> 00:22:05,057

I used to use butter

 

748

00:22:05,057 --> 00:22:06,558

and when I'm, you know, whatever

 

749

00:22:06,558 --> 00:22:08,260

it it's not butter it's

 

750

00:22:08,260 --> 00:22:09,494

you got to heat

 

751

00:22:09,494 --> 00:22:13,365

the the pan it really good use olive oil.

 

752

00:22:13,932 --> 00:22:14,433

Okay.

 

753

00:22:15,367 --> 00:22:15,801

Put it in

 

754

00:22:15,801 --> 00:22:17,135

it put the egg in there

 

755

00:22:17,135 --> 00:22:18,070

and right away

 

756

00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:19,004

it starts, you know, whatever.

 

757

00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:21,306

And then tilt the pan to side

 

758

00:22:21,573 --> 00:22:22,607

and take the olive oil

 

759

00:22:22,607 --> 00:22:23,175

and put it on

 

760

00:22:23,175 --> 00:22:24,276

top of the white part of the egg,

 

761

00:22:24,276 --> 00:22:26,311

not aeaac. Okay.

 

762

00:22:26,311 --> 00:22:27,112

To make a

 

763

00:22:27,779 --> 00:22:28,980

perfect crispy egg.

 

764

00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:29,614

Go.

 

765

00:22:30,615 --> 00:22:31,583

You did it.

 

766

00:22:32,651 --> 00:22:34,119

It's good you've done it.

 

767

00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,253

No.

 

768

00:22:35,253 --> 00:22:35,921

Okay,

 

769

00:22:36,054 --> 00:22:37,589

but I am going to tell you something.

 

770

00:22:37,589 --> 00:22:38,223

Okay.

 

771

00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:41,760

What kind of olive oil you use?

 

772

00:22:41,793 --> 00:22:44,363

I don't know.

 

773

00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:44,896

All right.

 

774

00:22:44,896 --> 00:22:46,965

There's two types of olive oil now.

 

775

00:22:46,965 --> 00:22:47,733

Okay.

 

776

00:22:47,833 --> 00:22:49,701

You got your tie in.

 

777

00:22:49,701 --> 00:22:50,235

You know,

 

778

00:22:50,235 --> 00:22:53,038

olive oil for Italian cooking, right?

 

779

00:22:53,405 --> 00:22:54,539

I think that's what it is.

 

780

00:22:54,539 --> 00:22:55,674

Or flavorful.

 

781

00:22:55,674 --> 00:22:58,443

Most people have the flavorful.

 

782

00:22:59,010 --> 00:23:01,079

Mm. Okay.

 

783

00:23:01,113 --> 00:23:02,414

Olive oil.

 

784

00:23:03,281 --> 00:23:05,617

There's also another olive oil.

 

785

00:23:05,617 --> 00:23:06,651

And it's what I use

 

786

00:23:06,651 --> 00:23:08,019

when I'm cooking out

 

787

00:23:08,019 --> 00:23:10,122

on the griddle or in.

 

788

00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:11,089

I'll just get

 

789

00:23:11,089 --> 00:23:13,558

it's like a regular cooking oil,

 

790

00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:16,261

you know, like canola oil or whatever.

 

791

00:23:16,962 --> 00:23:19,097

But it's just olive oil, but it's not

 

792

00:23:19,664 --> 00:23:20,766

the flavorful kind.

 

793

00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:23,301

It's just a regular cooking.

 

794

00:23:23,301 --> 00:23:25,036

Okay. Okay.

 

795

00:23:25,036 --> 00:23:27,906

So then just go out,

 

796

00:23:27,939 --> 00:23:30,242

look for the regular olive oil, not the

 

797

00:23:30,842 --> 00:23:31,443

fancy

 

798

00:23:33,278 --> 00:23:34,479

flavorful one,

 

799

00:23:34,479 --> 00:23:36,548

and use that for your cooking.

 

800

00:23:36,548 --> 00:23:37,149

That's a free.

 

801

00:23:37,149 --> 00:23:38,183

I'll give you that one.

 

802

00:23:38,183 --> 00:23:41,286

That one for free. Why?

 

803

00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:42,354

Why?

 

804

00:23:42,721 --> 00:23:45,123

It's really healthy for you, too, okay.

 

805

00:23:45,557 --> 00:23:47,159

Rather than using canola oil

 

806

00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:48,660

or something like that.

 

807

00:23:48,660 --> 00:23:49,528

And you can see me.

 

808

00:23:49,528 --> 00:23:51,663

I'm an Adonis, of course.

 

809

00:23:51,663 --> 00:23:52,397

You know.

 

810

00:23:52,397 --> 00:23:57,736

I'm going to pretend to write that down.

 

811

00:23:57,736 --> 00:23:58,937

I have a feeling that's regular.

 

812

00:23:58,937 --> 00:24:00,439

It's Italian olive oil,

 

813

00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:03,074

I think. My swear I did, too.

 

814

00:24:03,074 --> 00:24:05,510

And all you need to do is

 

815

00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:06,912

just dip a little bread in it,

 

816

00:24:06,912 --> 00:24:07,946

taste it, and you'll

 

817

00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:10,615

you'll go, oh, my gosh, that's crazy.

 

818

00:24:10,615 --> 00:24:11,850

I think. Olive oil.

 

819

00:24:11,850 --> 00:24:13,018

But it's like olive oil

 

820

00:24:13,018 --> 00:24:14,453

without the flavor of olive oil.

 

821

00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:17,122

It's just for general cooking purposes.

 

822

00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:18,390

Okay. All right.

 

823

00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:20,158

I can roll that. Yeah.

 

824

00:24:20,158 --> 00:24:21,593

I think my wife secretly likes

 

825

00:24:21,593 --> 00:24:23,328

Italian guys,

 

826

00:24:23,328 --> 00:24:24,863

but she's going to say anything

 

827

00:24:24,863 --> 00:24:26,665

to hurt my feelings. So

 

828

00:24:27,833 --> 00:24:29,568

I'll roll that poorly.

 

829

00:24:29,568 --> 00:24:30,602

I'll ask her.

 

830

00:24:30,602 --> 00:24:32,904

Pauline likes Chubby get really?

 

831

00:24:33,271 --> 00:24:35,240

Oh yeah, I know for a fact.

 

832

00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,276

Yeah, well, yeah, I know for a fact.

 

833

00:24:38,944 --> 00:24:39,444

I know.

 

834

00:24:39,444 --> 00:24:41,947

You know, I told you before she likes

 

835

00:24:41,947 --> 00:24:44,049

she likes watching bull riding.

 

836

00:24:44,049 --> 00:24:46,251

Yeah.

 

837

00:24:46,251 --> 00:24:49,087

Who's that day? Actor.

 

838

00:24:49,087 --> 00:24:51,122

Oh, I think of the actor's name.

 

839

00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:53,692

Bull riding.

 

840

00:24:53,692 --> 00:24:53,959

Bull.

 

841

00:24:53,959 --> 00:24:57,128

Right now there's another

 

842

00:24:57,429 --> 00:24:57,829

time.

 

843

00:24:57,929 --> 00:24:59,197

It was a guy in Silverado.

 

844

00:24:59,197 --> 00:25:00,165

Remember the bad guy,

 

845

00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:02,400

sheriff in Silverado.

 

846

00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,803

Now, Brian Dennehy.

 

847

00:25:04,803 --> 00:25:05,470

He likes that.

 

848

00:25:05,470 --> 00:25:05,937

She likes that.

 

849

00:25:05,937 --> 00:25:08,073

Guy, the sweet, um, Brian Dennehy.

 

850

00:25:08,073 --> 00:25:09,608

She like sumo wrestling.

 

851

00:25:09,608 --> 00:25:13,144

I'm like, Oh, jeez, now she.

 

852

00:25:13,144 --> 00:25:14,446

Pauline's a chubby chaser.

 

853

00:25:14,446 --> 00:25:17,315

You got to eat to keep up.

 

854

00:25:17,315 --> 00:25:17,849

Yeah.

 

855

00:25:21,253 --> 00:25:21,887

I tested.

 

856

00:25:21,887 --> 00:25:24,456

By. No, I know. Okay.

 

857

00:25:24,723 --> 00:25:25,390

I know.

 

858

00:25:25,390 --> 00:25:27,792

The last few months,

 

859

00:25:27,792 --> 00:25:31,296

Pauline is in love with these shows

 

860

00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:33,698

like Lone Star, LA.

 

861

00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:35,166

All these guys are around

 

862

00:25:35,166 --> 00:25:37,903

chick and fishing licenses and stuff.

 

863

00:25:37,903 --> 00:25:39,371

She's just pretty.

 

864

00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:40,739

You know, these shows?

 

865

00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:41,473

Yeah. Yeah.

 

866

00:25:41,473 --> 00:25:41,940

You ever seen.

 

867

00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:42,607

There's like

 

868

00:25:42,607 --> 00:25:43,842

there's like a dozen of them.

 

869

00:25:43,842 --> 00:25:45,544

Maine, New Hampshire,

 

870

00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,279

all the wildlife guys.

 

871

00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,314

So she likes Chevy Authority figures.

 

872

00:25:49,915 --> 00:25:52,350

There's some guy in Texas.

 

873

00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:54,219

She's like, oh, he's my favorite guy.

 

874

00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:55,120

Chubby old guy.

 

875

00:25:56,421 --> 00:25:57,389

Oh, she loves it.

 

876

00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:59,991

Oh, he comes on and she just

 

877

00:25:59,991 --> 00:26:02,227

she just lights up. I was like, okay.

 

878

00:26:02,227 --> 00:26:03,562

You've got longevity in your

 

879

00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:08,033

in your relationship.

 

880

00:26:08,033 --> 00:26:10,402

I just. Want chubby.

 

881

00:26:10,402 --> 00:26:12,470

Yeah, chubby guy.

 

882

00:26:12,804 --> 00:26:15,840

Look no further.

 

883

00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,741

All right,

 

884

00:26:16,741 --> 00:26:19,311

well, what else you got on on this

 

885

00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:20,378

revelation?

 

886

00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:21,813

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

 

887

00:26:21,813 --> 00:26:22,914

Wait a minute.

 

888

00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:25,150

Speaking of fishing.

 

889

00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:25,684

Mm hmm.

 

890

00:26:28,019 --> 00:26:29,387

Because Pauline is such a

 

891

00:26:29,387 --> 00:26:31,056

not with these shows. Right?

 

892

00:26:31,056 --> 00:26:31,923

We're going

 

893

00:26:31,923 --> 00:26:34,893

me and the kids over the grandkids.

 

894

00:26:34,893 --> 00:26:37,862

We're all going to Cape Cod this weekend

 

895

00:26:37,862 --> 00:26:39,731

and do some snorkeling, some fish

 

896

00:26:39,731 --> 00:26:40,532

and some boogie board.

 

897

00:26:40,532 --> 00:26:41,800

And we're going to

 

898

00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:43,768

kill it for four days.

 

899

00:26:43,768 --> 00:26:45,503

Okay.

 

900

00:26:45,503 --> 00:26:47,606

So I said

 

901

00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:49,774

she's and I've been going there forever.

 

902

00:26:50,508 --> 00:26:51,042

Never once

 

903

00:26:51,042 --> 00:26:51,843

did I ever think to get

 

904

00:26:51,843 --> 00:26:52,677

a fishing license,

 

905

00:26:53,678 --> 00:26:55,780

ever.

 

906

00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:57,782

So I said, Jeez, that's crazy.

 

907

00:26:57,782 --> 00:26:59,017

Now I'm watching all these shows.

 

908

00:26:59,017 --> 00:27:00,585

Pauline, I,

 

909

00:27:00,685 --> 00:27:03,254

I'm I never got a fishing license,

 

910

00:27:03,388 --> 00:27:06,191

so I go on mass dates, salt boy,

 

911

00:27:06,191 --> 00:27:06,558

you know.

 

912

00:27:06,558 --> 00:27:08,026

So I get my saltwater license

 

913

00:27:08,026 --> 00:27:10,595

from Massachusetts. Yeah.

 

914

00:27:10,595 --> 00:27:13,431

And I'm reading through

 

915

00:27:13,431 --> 00:27:16,968

those who require a license.

 

916

00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:17,602

This is end.

 

917

00:27:17,602 --> 00:27:19,571

This going to end bad for us.

 

918

00:27:19,571 --> 00:27:21,740

Okay. Okay.

 

919

00:27:21,806 --> 00:27:23,908

Those who require a license for saltwater

 

920

00:27:23,908 --> 00:27:28,980

fishing in Massachusetts, ages 16 to 59.

 

921

00:27:29,547 --> 00:27:30,782

You're kidding?

 

922

00:27:31,583 --> 00:27:33,685

So you don't need a license anymore?

 

923

00:27:33,685 --> 00:27:37,622

Well, I had to pay a dollar 45 for you.

 

924

00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:40,058

Still had to get a written permit. Okay.

 

925

00:27:40,592 --> 00:27:42,727

That you signed up and everything

 

926

00:27:42,727 --> 00:27:45,063

and it only costs dollar 45.

 

927

00:27:45,063 --> 00:27:45,930

No kidding.

 

928

00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:48,299

$1 and 45. Wow. Right.

 

929

00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:49,200

Yeah.

 

930

00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,471

And I'm thinking, yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

931

00:27:53,471 --> 00:27:55,173

And then it hit me.

 

932

00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:57,108

Yeah, I'm that old.

 

933

00:27:57,108 --> 00:27:59,911

Yeah, I know that old is like,

 

934

00:28:00,912 --> 00:28:02,347

oh, please, fish, man.

 

935

00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:02,681

We don't.

 

936

00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:04,082

We don't want it to be

 

937

00:28:04,082 --> 00:28:06,451

your last line ever. Hmm.

 

938

00:28:06,451 --> 00:28:09,254

You know, just enjoy the day old, man.

 

939

00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:11,089

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You.

 

940

00:28:11,089 --> 00:28:12,557

You deserve it.

 

941

00:28:12,557 --> 00:28:13,525

That's terrible.

 

942

00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:13,758

Good.

 

943

00:28:13,758 --> 00:28:14,192

They say,

 

944

00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,996

hey, you know, 59, you get 5% off or what

 

945

00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:18,630

it should.

 

946

00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:20,098

You it should be called

 

947

00:28:20,098 --> 00:28:21,299

a courtesy license

 

948

00:28:21,299 --> 00:28:22,901

or a courtesy or whatever.

 

949

00:28:22,901 --> 00:28:23,802

Because you've been around,

 

950

00:28:23,802 --> 00:28:26,738

you've you've paid your dues.

 

951

00:28:26,738 --> 00:28:30,508

Something other than, oh, you're over 59.

 

952

00:28:30,575 --> 00:28:32,210

Well, you know,

 

953

00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:33,878

you're that much closer to being dead.

 

954

00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:35,647

This could be your last day ever.

 

955

00:28:35,647 --> 00:28:37,248

Yeah, we don't want it.

 

956

00:28:37,248 --> 00:28:39,017

Yeah, yeah.

 

957

00:28:39,017 --> 00:28:42,320

But when I saw zero, you know, 16, the 59

 

958

00:28:42,987 --> 00:28:45,023

oh 59 no charge.

 

959

00:28:45,023 --> 00:28:46,658

I was, oh, you should see me.

 

960

00:28:46,658 --> 00:28:48,359

I'm like, Yeah, yeah, right.

 

961

00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:49,461

And then you get something back

 

962

00:28:49,461 --> 00:28:50,195

for all those taxes.

 

963

00:28:50,195 --> 00:28:51,463

Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

 

964

00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:52,397

And then it was like,

 

965

00:28:53,364 --> 00:28:55,700

oh my gosh, this is not a good thing.

 

966

00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:58,002

Do you know the state of Mississippi

 

967

00:28:58,002 --> 00:29:00,038

does the best thing that I've ever seen.

 

968

00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,273

And I don't know any states to do this.

 

969

00:29:02,273 --> 00:29:03,408

It's I've never seen it before.

 

970

00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:05,310

And actually, until I got to Mississippi

 

971

00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:06,277

and went went

 

972

00:29:06,277 --> 00:29:08,747

fishing on a lake down there.

 

973

00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:10,081

Were you back to boats up at

 

974

00:29:10,081 --> 00:29:11,483

the boat ramp?

 

975

00:29:11,483 --> 00:29:13,952

They had had like,

 

976

00:29:14,719 --> 00:29:16,588

I don't know, a board right up there

 

977

00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:18,289

and they had about 30 lifejackets

 

978

00:29:18,289 --> 00:29:20,892

on there for free for kids. Wow.

 

979

00:29:20,892 --> 00:29:22,861

That is the best thing I've ever seen.

 

980

00:29:22,861 --> 00:29:23,428

If you don't

 

981

00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:24,696

if you forgot to bring a life jacket

 

982

00:29:24,696 --> 00:29:25,130

for your kid,

 

983

00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:27,165

there's a free one right there.

 

984

00:29:27,232 --> 00:29:29,134

Is that is that fantastic or what?

 

985

00:29:29,134 --> 00:29:30,535

That's awesome.

 

986

00:29:30,535 --> 00:29:33,404

That should be every state. Yeah. And

 

987

00:29:34,405 --> 00:29:34,773

could have

 

988

00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,742

a couple adult sized ones there too.

 

989

00:29:38,576 --> 00:29:40,512

You know what I mean for those. Yeah.

 

990

00:29:40,512 --> 00:29:41,880

For unfortunates like myself,

 

991

00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,982

they also can't swim here. Okay.

 

992

00:29:44,249 --> 00:29:45,550

I can't believe how much time

 

993

00:29:45,550 --> 00:29:46,417

you spend on the water

 

994

00:29:46,417 --> 00:29:47,485

and you can't swim.

 

995

00:29:47,485 --> 00:29:49,654

Yeah, well.

 

996

00:29:49,654 --> 00:29:50,555

All right.

 

997

00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:52,857

Well, Robert also got.

 

998

00:29:53,324 --> 00:29:55,560

Well, I was just, like I said, going back

 

999

00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,464

to this estimate thing,

 

1000

00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:00,799

I just can't stress enough

 

1001

00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,367

for the guys who are out there doing it,

 

1002

00:30:02,367 --> 00:30:04,636

who are always trying to

 

1003

00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:06,604

figure out more ways to make more money

 

1004

00:30:06,604 --> 00:30:10,175

without doing more square footage.

 

1005

00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:11,276

This company,

 

1006

00:30:11,276 --> 00:30:13,478

like I keep going over and over about

 

1007

00:30:13,845 --> 00:30:16,681

I mean, I paid just about

 

1008

00:30:16,681 --> 00:30:17,949

I had to try to find the money

 

1009

00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:20,819

to get these guys to do the job.

 

1010

00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:22,921

And if I ever had to go back

 

1011

00:30:22,921 --> 00:30:23,688

into the business

 

1012

00:30:23,688 --> 00:30:25,156

and I know it's

 

1013

00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:25,757

something I'm

 

1014

00:30:25,757 --> 00:30:26,758

probably going to drive boom

 

1015

00:30:26,758 --> 00:30:27,692

crazy about,

 

1016

00:30:27,692 --> 00:30:30,295

you know, you need to start working

 

1017

00:30:30,295 --> 00:30:31,763

like this. Yeah.

 

1018

00:30:31,763 --> 00:30:33,331

You know, he's already charging

 

1019

00:30:33,331 --> 00:30:34,432

premium price that

 

1020

00:30:35,466 --> 00:30:36,734

he's way up there.

 

1021

00:30:36,734 --> 00:30:37,168

He's one

 

1022

00:30:37,168 --> 00:30:37,802

definitely one of the

 

1023

00:30:37,802 --> 00:30:39,304

highest in the area.

 

1024

00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:42,540

But I think you

 

1025

00:30:43,441 --> 00:30:44,709

if you give a little bit

 

1026

00:30:44,709 --> 00:30:45,510

more in the front,

 

1027

00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:47,312

I think you'll even get more on the back

 

1028

00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:48,213

end of it.

 

1029

00:30:48,379 --> 00:30:49,214

Yeah, yeah.

 

1030

00:30:49,214 --> 00:30:50,815

I think that's what these people did.

 

1031

00:30:50,815 --> 00:30:51,583

But

 

1032

00:30:52,717 --> 00:30:54,452

the upsell,

 

1033

00:30:55,420 --> 00:30:56,554

I got to give it to you again.

 

1034

00:30:56,554 --> 00:30:57,355

Once again,

 

1035

00:30:57,355 --> 00:30:58,523

I'm talking about the packet

 

1036

00:30:58,523 --> 00:31:00,625

and you use it for up sound like

 

1037

00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:01,860

man my packet

 

1038

00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,828

would be thick, full of stuff

 

1039

00:31:03,828 --> 00:31:04,863

just like you said,

 

1040

00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,765

flush match, whatever, whatever it takes.

 

1041

00:31:08,233 --> 00:31:09,067

You know,

 

1042

00:31:09,467 --> 00:31:10,535

when I was still in

 

1043

00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:11,936

the Janson business back

 

1044

00:31:11,936 --> 00:31:14,539

when I was in sport for Boner,

 

1045

00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:17,809

I was talking to a really,

 

1046

00:31:18,643 --> 00:31:21,512

really successful distributor

 

1047

00:31:22,113 --> 00:31:24,148

in Kansas.

 

1048

00:31:24,983 --> 00:31:26,417

And, you know, I'd work

 

1049

00:31:26,417 --> 00:31:28,052

with a lot of different distribution

 

1050

00:31:28,052 --> 00:31:30,388

Virgin Sam for a long time.

 

1051

00:31:30,388 --> 00:31:32,857

And I said, Man, what is your secret?

 

1052

00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:33,992

Because he

 

1053

00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:37,528

he just doesn't seem that he's working

 

1054

00:31:37,528 --> 00:31:38,196

that hard.

 

1055

00:31:39,464 --> 00:31:42,267

You know, he's happy, right?

 

1056

00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:43,601

He's he's just one of those guys.

 

1057

00:31:43,601 --> 00:31:45,737

Every time you see him, he's just happy.

 

1058

00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:48,473

Well, he's happy because he's

 

1059

00:31:48,473 --> 00:31:51,276

just making money hand over fist.

 

1060

00:31:51,276 --> 00:31:52,810

But I said to him,

 

1061

00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:54,479

you know, we're kind of joking around

 

1062

00:31:54,479 --> 00:31:55,313

when it's supper.

 

1063

00:31:55,313 --> 00:31:55,647

And I said,

 

1064

00:31:55,647 --> 00:31:57,382

you know, what's the key, man?

 

1065

00:31:57,382 --> 00:32:01,953

And he goes, Drill deeper.

 

1066

00:32:01,953 --> 00:32:03,121

He goes,

 

1067

00:32:03,121 --> 00:32:04,656

I am the king

 

1068

00:32:04,656 --> 00:32:07,125

of drilling deeper with customers.

 

1069

00:32:08,259 --> 00:32:09,327

If I got him for this,

 

1070

00:32:09,327 --> 00:32:10,094

I want him for that.

 

1071

00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:10,895

If I get him for that,

 

1072

00:32:10,895 --> 00:32:12,830

I want it for this. Yeah.

 

1073

00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:15,967

And he goes, I just never stop

 

1074

00:32:16,901 --> 00:32:18,569

trying to drill deeper

 

1075

00:32:18,569 --> 00:32:19,971

with his customers.

 

1076

00:32:19,971 --> 00:32:21,139

Well, yes.

 

1077

00:32:21,139 --> 00:32:22,373

So yeah.

 

1078

00:32:22,373 --> 00:32:24,842

And here's a reason to do it is you

 

1079

00:32:24,842 --> 00:32:26,878

you work so hard in this trade

 

1080

00:32:27,245 --> 00:32:29,314

that you owe it to yourself.

 

1081

00:32:29,314 --> 00:32:30,081

Yeah, absolutely.

 

1082

00:32:30,081 --> 00:32:31,449

Positively owe it to yourself.

 

1083

00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:33,384

You know,

 

1084

00:32:33,751 --> 00:32:35,420

sometimes people think, oh,

 

1085

00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:36,654

I can't get him for that price

 

1086

00:32:36,654 --> 00:32:38,356

because it seems like it's so exorbitant,

 

1087

00:32:38,356 --> 00:32:39,490

so high.

 

1088

00:32:39,490 --> 00:32:40,224

But

 

1089

00:32:40,992 --> 00:32:41,993

the Cadillac dealership

 

1090

00:32:41,993 --> 00:32:42,827

don't care about that.

 

1091

00:32:42,827 --> 00:32:44,228

They don't worry about that.

 

1092

00:32:44,228 --> 00:32:47,098

I was just in a Best Buy has like eight K

 

1093

00:32:47,865 --> 00:32:48,700

TVs now.

 

1094

00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:52,070

So a TV for $10,000.

 

1095

00:32:52,136 --> 00:32:54,072

I'm trying to justify it.

 

1096

00:32:54,072 --> 00:32:56,307

And I know this is the way it happened.

 

1097

00:32:56,307 --> 00:32:57,642

It ain't never going to happen.

 

1098

00:32:57,642 --> 00:33:00,345

But my point is, you know what I mean?

 

1099

00:33:02,146 --> 00:33:03,781

Every other industry you

 

1100

00:33:03,781 --> 00:33:05,483

don't feel guilty about

 

1101

00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:07,352

about charging what they charge.

 

1102

00:33:07,352 --> 00:33:08,886

If you have offer quality service,

 

1103

00:33:08,886 --> 00:33:10,088

especially in a time,

 

1104

00:33:10,088 --> 00:33:10,855

a day and age that

 

1105

00:33:10,855 --> 00:33:13,057

people don't do this anymore,

 

1106

00:33:13,057 --> 00:33:13,891

you know what I mean?

 

1107

00:33:13,891 --> 00:33:14,792

It's a craft.

 

1108

00:33:14,792 --> 00:33:15,326

It is a skill

 

1109

00:33:15,326 --> 00:33:17,729

that you just don't see out there, man.

 

1110

00:33:18,062 --> 00:33:19,197

You owe it to yourself

 

1111

00:33:19,197 --> 00:33:20,832

to charge accordingly.

 

1112

00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:22,433

You really, really do.

 

1113

00:33:22,433 --> 00:33:23,101

I mean, Rob

 

1114

00:33:23,101 --> 00:33:25,003

and I don't have any skin in the game.

 

1115

00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,338

You know, we're just two old guys now.

 

1116

00:33:27,338 --> 00:33:29,540

But what I'm getting.

 

1117

00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:30,575

Old guys getting free

 

1118

00:33:30,575 --> 00:33:32,744

fishing licenses now. Them, right.

 

1119

00:33:34,145 --> 00:33:34,812

What I've

 

1120

00:33:34,812 --> 00:33:35,613

learned and

 

1121

00:33:35,613 --> 00:33:37,081

when I've been around the industry

 

1122

00:33:37,081 --> 00:33:38,449

and seeing other people

 

1123

00:33:38,449 --> 00:33:39,450

across the industry

 

1124

00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:41,786

and what have you, man,

 

1125

00:33:42,153 --> 00:33:44,422

if there's any way possible to do this,

 

1126

00:33:44,422 --> 00:33:46,190

you really do owe it to yourself,

 

1127

00:33:46,190 --> 00:33:46,958

to your business,

 

1128

00:33:46,958 --> 00:33:48,860

your family and everything is find

 

1129

00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:49,861

ways, right?

 

1130

00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:50,661

Well, not just

 

1131

00:33:50,661 --> 00:33:52,030

we're going to close this up,

 

1132

00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:55,066

but when I say upselling and and you go,

 

1133

00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:56,801

why use a Tampico brush every day?

 

1134

00:33:56,801 --> 00:33:58,803

So I'm not really it's just what I do.

 

1135

00:33:58,803 --> 00:34:00,204

But it is an upsell.

 

1136

00:34:00,204 --> 00:34:01,773

It is something that other people

 

1137

00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:02,740

we're going to talk about this one,

 

1138

00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:04,442

we're going to have a standing podcast.

 

1139

00:34:04,442 --> 00:34:05,109

You're coming soon.

 

1140

00:34:05,109 --> 00:34:06,577

He's going to talk about this minute,

 

1141

00:34:06,577 --> 00:34:08,613

but it's a it's

 

1142

00:34:08,613 --> 00:34:09,180

something above

 

1143

00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:10,715

and beyond what a lot of people do.

 

1144

00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:11,916

So it is an upsell.

 

1145

00:34:11,916 --> 00:34:12,250

It is

 

1146

00:34:12,250 --> 00:34:12,817

it is something

 

1147

00:34:12,817 --> 00:34:14,385

that you don't have to do,

 

1148

00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:15,453

but you are doing to

 

1149

00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:17,355

to create a quality job.

 

1150

00:34:17,355 --> 00:34:18,723

These things that you're doing,

 

1151

00:34:18,723 --> 00:34:20,291

you're doing that for your own benefit,

 

1152

00:34:20,291 --> 00:34:21,125

but you're doing for the better

 

1153

00:34:21,125 --> 00:34:22,360

for the clients.

 

1154

00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,062

So 100%

 

1155

00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:24,629

be able to work

 

1156

00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:26,030

that into your, into your,

 

1157

00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:27,098

your, your,

 

1158

00:34:27,098 --> 00:34:28,833

your estimates and everything.

 

1159

00:34:28,833 --> 00:34:31,002

Make sure you get that point across in

 

1160

00:34:31,002 --> 00:34:33,371

and hopefully get some value out of that.

 

1161

00:34:33,871 --> 00:34:34,472

You know,

 

1162

00:34:34,472 --> 00:34:35,506

one, one more thing

 

1163

00:34:35,506 --> 00:34:38,543

before you cut us off.

 

1164

00:34:38,543 --> 00:34:39,977

When I was looking at the packet

 

1165

00:34:39,977 --> 00:34:41,279

that they sent me

 

1166

00:34:41,279 --> 00:34:43,047

and going through different brochures

 

1167

00:34:43,047 --> 00:34:44,348

at different pieces of equipment

 

1168

00:34:44,348 --> 00:34:45,483

and everything,

 

1169

00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:47,618

it looked really familiar.

 

1170

00:34:47,618 --> 00:34:49,020

It looked like something Eileen

 

1171

00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:49,620

put together.

 

1172

00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:52,557

I was thinking that when you were

 

1173

00:34:52,557 --> 00:34:53,491

when you were saying that.

 

1174

00:34:53,491 --> 00:34:55,993

I mean, let me tell you guys something.

 

1175

00:34:56,427 --> 00:34:57,962

No, buddy,

 

1176

00:34:57,962 --> 00:35:00,731

nobody in this business gets it except

 

1177

00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:04,068

for Bona when it comes to those

 

1178

00:35:04,735 --> 00:35:07,405

those brochures and stuff.

 

1179

00:35:07,405 --> 00:35:07,705

You know,

 

1180

00:35:07,705 --> 00:35:09,240

I remember years ago

 

1181

00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,175

when I started with Bona,

 

1182

00:35:11,175 --> 00:35:12,677

I thought, geez, you know,

 

1183

00:35:12,677 --> 00:35:14,345

some of this stuff

 

1184

00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:18,149

was looks a little feminine,

 

1185

00:35:18,149 --> 00:35:18,850

right?

 

1186

00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:20,551

It doesn't look like it's me.

 

1187

00:35:20,551 --> 00:35:21,319

And then I,

 

1188

00:35:21,319 --> 00:35:22,787

you know, mentioned something

 

1189

00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:24,021

to somebody in marketing one day

 

1190

00:35:24,021 --> 00:35:24,722

and they go,

 

1191

00:35:25,022 --> 00:35:26,491

Yeah, a lot of our marketing

 

1192

00:35:26,491 --> 00:35:28,693

pieces are geared towards

 

1193

00:35:28,693 --> 00:35:30,294

women because they're the ones

 

1194

00:35:30,294 --> 00:35:32,530

who are making the decisions on color.

 

1195

00:35:32,530 --> 00:35:34,532

I mean, look at some of the brochures

 

1196

00:35:35,099 --> 00:35:36,300

that the marketing department

 

1197

00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,536

has has made over the years.

 

1198

00:35:38,536 --> 00:35:41,672

Look at your adhesive brochures, amazing

 

1199

00:35:42,273 --> 00:35:43,274

stained brochures,

 

1200

00:35:43,274 --> 00:35:45,776

traffic brochures, craft oil brochures.

 

1201

00:35:46,677 --> 00:35:47,311

I'm filling

 

1202

00:35:47,311 --> 00:35:49,814

my pack it up with all of that stuff.

 

1203

00:35:50,748 --> 00:35:51,616

If your distributor

 

1204

00:35:51,616 --> 00:35:52,483

doesn't have it,

 

1205

00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:56,254

reach out to your your territory manager.

 

1206

00:35:57,455 --> 00:35:58,923

He'll get it through the distributor.

 

1207

00:35:58,923 --> 00:35:59,991

But my gosh,

 

1208

00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:01,225

I wouldn't do an estimate

 

1209

00:36:01,225 --> 00:36:02,527

without sending out a packet

 

1210

00:36:02,527 --> 00:36:05,163

from now on ever.

 

1211

00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:07,431

And I'll tell you the,

 

1212

00:36:07,431 --> 00:36:09,433

the stuff that and makes

 

1213

00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:12,136

for our brochures and everything, it's,

 

1214

00:36:12,136 --> 00:36:13,304

it's perfect.

 

1215

00:36:13,304 --> 00:36:15,740

I mean it is absolutely perfect.

 

1216

00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:18,009

It just sets the tone.

 

1217

00:36:18,276 --> 00:36:19,243

Okay.

 

1218

00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:20,077

Because I can't let

 

1219

00:36:20,077 --> 00:36:24,015

you have the last word and

 

1220

00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:26,284

please of please allow me this.

 

1221

00:36:26,284 --> 00:36:28,486

I've said this before, but

 

1222

00:36:28,486 --> 00:36:31,289

but we want to talk about upselling.

 

1223

00:36:31,289 --> 00:36:33,090

I know. Yes, I'm the adhesive guy.

 

1224

00:36:33,090 --> 00:36:35,393

But but listen, I have to say this.

 

1225

00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:38,062

If you're if you're in a client's home,

 

1226

00:36:38,062 --> 00:36:40,231

when is it 1500 square feet?

 

1227

00:36:40,231 --> 00:36:41,065

Let's say it's half

 

1228

00:36:41,065 --> 00:36:41,832

inch engineered floor.

 

1229

00:36:41,832 --> 00:36:42,900

It's going to go down

 

1230

00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:44,835

five, eight engineered.

 

1231

00:36:44,835 --> 00:36:46,103

If you can let your client know

 

1232

00:36:46,103 --> 00:36:47,572

that half inch underneath

 

1233

00:36:47,572 --> 00:36:49,941

this floor is a sea of chemicals.

 

1234

00:36:49,941 --> 00:36:52,577

And together those chemicals

 

1235

00:36:53,311 --> 00:36:54,512

form the word adhesive.

 

1236

00:36:54,512 --> 00:36:55,880

Right. And

 

1237

00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:57,815

there's some

 

1238

00:36:57,815 --> 00:36:58,249

there's some

 

1239

00:36:58,249 --> 00:36:58,883

products out there

 

1240

00:36:58,883 --> 00:37:00,184

that do have some nasty off

 

1241

00:37:00,184 --> 00:37:00,918

gassing stuff

 

1242

00:37:00,918 --> 00:37:01,352

that, you know,

 

1243

00:37:01,352 --> 00:37:03,988

we breathe everything they emit.

 

1244

00:37:03,988 --> 00:37:05,122

We crawl around the floor.

 

1245

00:37:05,122 --> 00:37:06,290

Kids are crawling around the floor,

 

1246

00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:07,625

the dogs crawling around the floors

 

1247

00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:09,727

and what have you and

 

1248

00:37:09,727 --> 00:37:12,096

everything that they emit, you're

 

1249

00:37:12,096 --> 00:37:13,030

breathing that.

 

1250

00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:13,931

Okay,

 

1251

00:37:13,998 --> 00:37:15,366

so there's only one adhesive

 

1252

00:37:15,366 --> 00:37:16,767

in the entire industry

 

1253

00:37:16,767 --> 00:37:18,569

that is green guard gold certified,

 

1254

00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:19,537

which also it's a third

 

1255

00:37:19,537 --> 00:37:20,438

party certificate.

 

1256

00:37:20,438 --> 00:37:22,840

It means safer children, schools

 

1257

00:37:23,074 --> 00:37:24,675

and hospitals.

 

1258

00:37:24,675 --> 00:37:25,743

That's a differentiator

 

1259

00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:27,345

that nobody else has.

 

1260

00:37:27,345 --> 00:37:29,046

So we talk about upselling,

 

1261

00:37:29,046 --> 00:37:30,114

you know, to be able to say that,

 

1262

00:37:30,114 --> 00:37:30,481

you know what,

 

1263

00:37:30,481 --> 00:37:31,749

we offer this to our clients

 

1264

00:37:31,749 --> 00:37:33,317

because it doesn't

 

1265

00:37:33,317 --> 00:37:34,652

create indoor air pollution

 

1266

00:37:34,652 --> 00:37:37,121

and what have you is a great upsell.

 

1267

00:37:37,121 --> 00:37:38,489

Okay.

 

1268

00:37:38,489 --> 00:37:39,223

You either were

 

1269

00:37:39,223 --> 00:37:40,791

I was going to leave a little rabbit.

 

1270

00:37:40,791 --> 00:37:42,960

You walked me into it. I'm okay.

 

1271

00:37:43,294 --> 00:37:44,895

I'm fine. That's it.

 

1272

00:37:46,464 --> 00:37:47,231

Thank you for listening.

 

1273

00:37:47,231 --> 00:37:48,332

This episode

 

1274

00:37:48,332 --> 00:37:49,800

and please stay tuned for

 

1275

00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:58,342

another episode.