On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Second chances

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob discuss second chances both in life and in work. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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Hello and welcome

 

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to another episode of On the Floor

 

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with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne Highlander

 

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National Sales

 

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manager for Bona Adhesives.

 

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And I'm Rob Johnson, newly appointed head

 

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chef of Chef Boyardee.

 

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How's that?

 

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Oh, dude, I owe you big time, man.

 

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Come on, baby.

 

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I will. I'll know.

 

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I'll know tomorrow.

 

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Judy's making the spaghetti.

 

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You sent me the most elaborate

 

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spaghetti recipe

 

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I have ever seen my life.

 

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And my wife is all about it, man.

 

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We went out and bought everything

 

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you said to buy.

 

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We're going to do that.

 

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And it's like a 14 hours of cooking.

 

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Great. Thank you.

 

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It's a process.

 

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OK.

 

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That's why you make so much of it.

 

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Like I said, that

 

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that recipe that I gave you,

 

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that's about £30 of sauce.

 

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Meatballs and sausage.

 

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That's what Judy said. It's the.

 

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I mean, it's going to last you

 

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for a year.

 

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Well, she cut the recipe in half.

 

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I was going to recommend that.

 

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Yeah. Is this the two of us?

 

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All right.

 

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I mean, we we the.

 

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As soon as it cools down.

 

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We bag it in, like, one gallon zip locks.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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And freeze it

 

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and then start doling it out to the kids.

 

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Each kid will get a couple of bags.

 

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I mean, it's.

 

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Wow. It's crazy how much sauce.

 

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Even splitting it in half.

 

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You're going to be shocked I'm not.

 

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I can tell how much. Yeah.

 

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So thank you for that.

 

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I didn't realize

 

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it was so hard

 

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until I started writing it all down.

 

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I I knew that was a lot of work for you.

 

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Seriously.

 

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I really do.

 

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And you took pictures

 

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of every step of the way,

 

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so I really do appreciate that.

 

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I know I hounded you.

 

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So thank you.

 

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Well,

 

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I just hope that

 

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it'll definitely be worth it.

 

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So tomorrow morning.

 

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Tomorrow morning, you'll be.

 

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Will be in heaven.

 

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Yeah, I probably.

 

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Before we get going.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Got to give a shout out to Paulie.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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Tomorrow will be 38 years.

 

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Oh, congratulations, man.

 

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38 years.

 

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Yes.

 

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Graduations as a very excited for you.

 

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Yeah.

 

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I told you that

 

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I've been married 40 years, right?

 

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Of course.

 

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For the first 38 years.

 

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Were easy

 

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to the last two.

 

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That were the tough one.

 

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Yes.

 

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Now, congratulations.

 

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Man. That's pretty darn cool.

 

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And you didn't get her

 

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anything for the 40th or did you?

 

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No, you did.

 

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You went out and got her flowers, right?

 

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Absolutely. I did. Yeah.

 

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Aren't you going to ask me what I got her

 

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for her anniversary?

 

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I'm sorry. I got sidetracked.

 

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What did you get it for?

 

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Your anniversary, Rob? 38 years.

 

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What is that? 38 years.

 

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I didn't

 

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look at what 38 years was, but this

 

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year, I got her

 

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lumber pillows,

 

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holiday personalized lumber pillows.

 

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I'll send you a couple pictures of them.

 

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I got her a Halloween,

 

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a Thanksgiving and a Christmas.

 

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I look forward to those.

 

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Yeah.

 

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And the lumber, the things are like the.

 

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The Halloween pillow is skeletons.

 

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With all the grandkids name under it.

 

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Oh, that's nice.

 

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Skeletons with the kids. Nice.

 

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Pauline loves that kind of stuff.

 

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What do. You weigh?

 

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What is what is it?

 

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Like a lumber pillow?

 

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Do lumber?

 

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You know, they're like 12 by 22 inches.

 

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Okay. Right.

 

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Like that big.

 

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Yeah. A 12 by 22.

 

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Like all pillows.

 

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And you put it.

 

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No, no, you lumber,

 

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you know,

 

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you put it on the back of your head.

 

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You sitting on a chair.

 

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Oh.

 

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So they're not for forbid there for

 

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for like in a watching TV.

 

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Yeah.

 

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You know, like

 

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you see it on the couches and stuff.

 

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Lumber.

 

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You guys don't sit up in

 

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bed and watch T.V., dear.

 

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Sit.

 

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No. Okay. No. Later.

 

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Yeah. Well, all right.

 

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I'm not crazy about watching TV in bed.

 

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No, I'm not either.

 

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I'm a I.

 

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Yeah,

 

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I just go to sleep, too.

 

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Yeah. Yeah.

 

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Once I'm laying down, it's over.

 

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Yeah. Amen.

 

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All right, Rob,

 

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we got a lot of ground to cover.

 

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I was thinking about this,

 

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and I was hoping I would remember this

 

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because I was driving

 

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as this crossed my mind, and it you know,

 

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we talked about last

 

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one of our other episodes

 

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about the fisherman that got caught

 

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cheating with a whale night

 

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while I tournament.

 

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But this is not related to that.

 

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I was in a bass tournament once,

 

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and I was paired up

 

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with a big name fisherman.

 

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I think this guy was very well

 

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known in the area.

 

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I mean,

 

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he was

 

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always on the leader board

 

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and a super good fisherman.

 

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And I thought, wow,

 

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what a thrill to be going

 

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fishing with this guy. Right. And

 

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as we

 

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were fishing, he caught a small fish,

 

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you know, during the heat of the day.

 

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We haven't a decent day

 

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without a great day.

 

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He got a small fish.

 

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It was

 

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it wasn't going to help his weight

 

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any at all.

 

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And it got off the hook

 

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and it was bouncing around on the boat

 

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on the on the on the floor of the boat.

 

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Right.

 

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And he kicked it out into the water.

 

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And

 

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it really just kind of turned me off.

 

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You know what I mean?

 

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That he was so focused on winning

 

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that he lost

 

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his appreciation of the sport

 

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and the fish.

 

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And it just kind of

 

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I just just rode me the wrong way.

 

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And I thought to myself,

 

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like, I don't want to ever lose

 

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the appreciation

 

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of the art of standing

 

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fishing, hardwood floors,

 

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and how much the craft of that

 

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is always meant to be my whole life

 

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and how much I enjoyed it.

 

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And I,

 

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you know, knowing how hard it is to

 

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and actually,

 

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you know, I've had people say debate

 

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whether, OK, do you take hardwood floors?

 

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Is that an art or is it is it not an art?

 

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What side you land on there?

 

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Well,

 

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anybody who's been to my training

 

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knows where I'm at with that.

 

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It's not a service business.

 

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We are not a service industry.

 

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We are craftsmen.

 

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And it's art.

 

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Yeah.

 

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I mean, with everything that we do

 

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to a floor color, screen levels, texture,

 

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all of that stuff is all in the eye

 

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and the feel.

 

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It's not we're not laying pipe

 

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you know, it's easy now.

 

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But no.

 

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Anybody who doesn't think that

 

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this is not a craft and it's a hard craft

 

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to it's not an easy craft.

 

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I mean

 

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I mean, we've done it.

 

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We know the deal.

 

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We know what everybody's going

 

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through out there.

 

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It's it's tough.

 

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But no, it is it is art.

 

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I mean, think about it.

 

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We're,

 

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you know, we're waiting for stuff to dry

 

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to make sure that everything looks

 

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OK because

 

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we just still don't know

 

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what's going to happen

 

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or what could happen.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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You know, I

 

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you know,

 

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we all see

 

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these fancy flaws on social media

 

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or what have you, and I love them.

 

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And we, you know,

 

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we all sort of love that,

 

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you know what

 

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the course of this out there.

 

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But I also don't ever want to get to take

 

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for granted

 

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or be disheartened,

 

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you know, for guys

 

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that never had one of those high

 

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profile jobs.

 

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I mean, there is so much satisfaction

 

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to me

 

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and a standard straightly sanded finish.

 

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And when

 

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you master every aspect of that job,

 

266

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I mean, even even a scraper that is

 

267

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that is cutting perfectly.

 

268

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You know,

 

269

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when you're going around

 

270

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scraping the edges

 

271

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and it's just peeling back

 

272

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that wood beautifully,

 

273

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you know what I mean?

 

274

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It's sharpened perfectly.

 

275

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You're Sanders,

 

276

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your edging is super flat.

 

277

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You're not leading a lot of your marks,

 

278

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just that

 

279

00:07:58,444 --> 00:08:00,880

just the craftsmanship involved in that.

 

280

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I think it's beautiful

 

281

00:08:01,881 --> 00:08:03,883

and I don't ever ever lose that.

 

282

00:08:03,883 --> 00:08:05,918

You know how much I appreciated that

 

283

00:08:05,918 --> 00:08:08,221

and not leaving any scratches behind or

 

284

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not losing

 

285

00:08:08,754 --> 00:08:10,890

sight of how that fresh sandpaper

 

286

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is cutting that

 

287

00:08:11,591 --> 00:08:13,459

that white oak floor and exposing

 

288

00:08:13,459 --> 00:08:15,761

that, you know, what's underneath it and,

 

289

00:08:16,896 --> 00:08:17,263

you know, a

 

290

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perfectly sustained job.

 

291

00:08:20,433 --> 00:08:21,901

Whereas even from wall to wall,

 

292

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you know what I mean?

 

293

00:08:22,869 --> 00:08:23,102

Yeah.

 

294

00:08:23,102 --> 00:08:23,603

Those things,

 

295

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I really think that, yeah,

 

296

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you may not have a high profile job

 

297

00:08:27,273 --> 00:08:28,841

that's on social media

 

298

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that everybody gets to look at and,

 

299

00:08:30,376 --> 00:08:31,410

you know, all these things.

 

300

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But damn it,

 

301

00:08:32,445 --> 00:08:34,280

there's a great deal of satisfaction

 

302

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to me and something very honorable about

 

303

00:08:36,916 --> 00:08:38,985

just how even

 

304

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even that feeling of a T-bar

 

305

00:08:40,453 --> 00:08:41,988

gliding across the floor with fresh

 

306

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finish underneath it,

 

307

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you know what I mean?

 

308

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When it's laying down beautiful

 

309

00:08:45,558 --> 00:08:47,226

and and you look back at the floor

 

310

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and it looks like glass.

 

311

00:08:49,161 --> 00:08:49,662

Yeah.

 

312

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I think there's just something.

 

313

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There's a lot of satisfaction in that.

 

314

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Yeah.

 

315

00:08:54,133 --> 00:08:55,134

A guy

 

316

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it's funny

 

317

00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:57,837

you said that because I just saw a guy up

 

318

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on Instagram and

 

319

00:09:01,707 --> 00:09:02,074

like you

 

320

00:09:02,074 --> 00:09:02,909

said, everybody loves

 

321

00:09:02,909 --> 00:09:03,576

put their,

 

322

00:09:03,576 --> 00:09:04,710

you know, big time profile

 

323

00:09:04,710 --> 00:09:05,945

jobs out there.

 

324

00:09:05,945 --> 00:09:08,414

But this guy, it was his first cut

 

325

00:09:08,848 --> 00:09:09,849

and it looked like

 

326

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it could have been

 

327

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you know, ten or 12 inch.

 

328

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Hundred and 80 year old.

 

329

00:09:15,721 --> 00:09:17,456

You know, the floors I'm talking about,

 

330

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you know,

 

331

00:09:18,925 --> 00:09:19,592

right now

 

332

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it would be a sub floor for most guys.

 

333

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But I love

 

334

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when the floor guy, including myself,

 

335

00:09:26,165 --> 00:09:27,633

pat myself on the back here,

 

336

00:09:27,633 --> 00:09:29,802

I'm going to take one and make OK,

 

337

00:09:30,703 --> 00:09:32,638

I used to love a job like that.

 

338

00:09:32,638 --> 00:09:34,574

Yeah. They were going to be miserable.

 

339

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You know, it was going to be absolute

 

340

00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:38,244

misery.

 

341

00:09:38,244 --> 00:09:40,980

And I loved that that guy he was taking

 

342

00:09:41,881 --> 00:09:44,283

video of his first cut

 

343

00:09:44,951 --> 00:09:45,952

and he happened to be using

 

344

00:09:45,952 --> 00:09:48,888

my favorite boner HD belt sander.

 

345

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OK, the boner belt.

 

346

00:09:50,089 --> 00:09:52,858

HD loved that machine. Everybody knows.

 

347

00:09:52,858 --> 00:09:54,527

I do love that.

 

348

00:09:54,527 --> 00:09:55,561

And I think that's

 

349

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what caught my eye first.

 

350

00:09:56,562 --> 00:09:58,064

But then when I looked at,

 

351

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you know, that top nailed crowned

 

352

00:10:01,934 --> 00:10:03,135

and the guy was making,

 

353

00:10:03,135 --> 00:10:03,402

you know,

 

354

00:10:03,402 --> 00:10:04,337

a couple of passes

 

355

00:10:04,337 --> 00:10:05,671

and it was just

 

356

00:10:05,771 --> 00:10:07,540

barely cut in half of the board.

 

357

00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:08,975

And I was like, oh, yeah,

 

358

00:10:08,975 --> 00:10:10,443

this is going to be

 

359

00:10:10,443 --> 00:10:12,244

this is what separates

 

360

00:10:12,244 --> 00:10:14,013

the men from the boys.

 

361

00:10:14,013 --> 00:10:15,247

I know they're not supposed

 

362

00:10:15,247 --> 00:10:16,582

to say things like that, but

 

363

00:10:18,117 --> 00:10:19,819

that was I can't wait.

 

364

00:10:19,819 --> 00:10:20,186

I hope

 

365

00:10:20,186 --> 00:10:21,854

he puts up more pictures

 

366

00:10:21,854 --> 00:10:24,090

when he's done because

 

367

00:10:24,357 --> 00:10:25,558

those are the ones that I think

 

368

00:10:25,558 --> 00:10:27,193

are the best for a craftsman,

 

369

00:10:27,193 --> 00:10:28,861

are the ones that like

 

370

00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:30,663

people are looking at their floor going,

 

371

00:10:30,663 --> 00:10:31,631

no way.

 

372

00:10:31,831 --> 00:10:33,032

There's no way

 

373

00:10:33,032 --> 00:10:35,067

he can bring this floor back. Mm.

 

374

00:10:35,835 --> 00:10:38,070

Those are the ones that I love, too.

 

375

00:10:38,070 --> 00:10:39,872

Well, and those are the ones that require

 

376

00:10:39,872 --> 00:10:41,474

the most patience.

 

377

00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:43,442

You know what I mean? Because they are.

 

378

00:10:43,442 --> 00:10:44,844

You got to go through it, man.

 

379

00:10:44,844 --> 00:10:46,579

You got to go through every step.

 

380

00:10:46,579 --> 00:10:48,614

But if you go through every step,

 

381

00:10:48,614 --> 00:10:49,515

and you don't razzle

 

382

00:10:49,515 --> 00:10:50,049

dazzle it,

 

383

00:10:50,049 --> 00:10:50,950

you'll get there

 

384

00:10:50,950 --> 00:10:52,418

and you'll find a beautiful floor

 

385

00:10:52,418 --> 00:10:53,519

underneath it.

 

386

00:10:53,919 --> 00:10:56,222

And I'm going to say something else

 

387

00:10:56,222 --> 00:10:57,423

to that.

 

388

00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:59,792

No, As I was driving home from Michigan,

 

389

00:10:59,792 --> 00:11:01,794

I had a long ten hour drive home.

 

390

00:11:01,794 --> 00:11:02,828

I was thinking about it

 

391

00:11:02,828 --> 00:11:04,463

on the way home that,

 

392

00:11:04,463 --> 00:11:05,164

you know,

 

393

00:11:05,164 --> 00:11:06,832

there's something else to consider.

 

394

00:11:06,832 --> 00:11:07,533

And I'm going to mention

 

395

00:11:07,533 --> 00:11:08,968

some words that will

 

396

00:11:08,968 --> 00:11:10,536

describe existing flaws that we

 

397

00:11:10,536 --> 00:11:11,771

sometimes run into. Right.

 

398

00:11:12,805 --> 00:11:13,673

We run into flaws

 

399

00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:16,108

that have many flaws in them

 

400

00:11:16,108 --> 00:11:16,909

in disrepair.

 

401

00:11:16,909 --> 00:11:19,545

And they've been abused over the years,

 

402

00:11:19,545 --> 00:11:21,781

and they have signs of wear and tear

 

403

00:11:21,781 --> 00:11:23,215

and maybe neglect

 

404

00:11:23,215 --> 00:11:25,618

or they've been uncared for,

 

405

00:11:25,618 --> 00:11:26,886

but with a great deal

 

406

00:11:26,886 --> 00:11:28,054

of putting your head down

 

407

00:11:28,054 --> 00:11:29,522

and grinding and polishing

 

408

00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:30,389

and perfecting,

 

409

00:11:30,389 --> 00:11:31,524

you can turn those flaws

 

410

00:11:31,524 --> 00:11:33,426

into something beautiful.

 

411

00:11:34,026 --> 00:11:36,429

And I can use those same exact words

 

412

00:11:36,429 --> 00:11:38,731

to describe some people

 

413

00:11:38,731 --> 00:11:41,133

abuse and neglect in uncared for

 

414

00:11:41,133 --> 00:11:42,001

and wear and tear.

 

415

00:11:42,001 --> 00:11:45,438

And I think in our industry sometimes,

 

416

00:11:45,438 --> 00:11:46,172

you know,

 

417

00:11:46,172 --> 00:11:47,406

there are people that struggle

 

418

00:11:47,406 --> 00:11:49,442

with addiction or alcohol

 

419

00:11:49,442 --> 00:11:51,177

or those type of past issues.

 

420

00:11:51,177 --> 00:11:53,846

I think that this trade is a great place

 

421

00:11:53,846 --> 00:11:56,215

for second chances, you know what I mean?

 

422

00:11:56,482 --> 00:11:58,551

That people that and this

 

423

00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:00,886

and that that that have done

 

424

00:12:00,886 --> 00:12:02,655

that and had those issues

 

425

00:12:02,655 --> 00:12:03,556

and put their head down

 

426

00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:05,191

and worked their butts off and

 

427

00:12:05,191 --> 00:12:06,058

and grinded

 

428

00:12:06,058 --> 00:12:06,692

and everything

 

429

00:12:06,692 --> 00:12:08,761

and also turned into something beautiful.

 

430

00:12:09,328 --> 00:12:11,130

So there's no

 

431

00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:12,431

shortage of examples of that.

 

432

00:12:12,431 --> 00:12:12,798

I've known

 

433

00:12:12,798 --> 00:12:14,166

so many people in our industry

 

434

00:12:14,166 --> 00:12:16,769

that have that had those kind of issues.

 

435

00:12:16,769 --> 00:12:19,739

And and in a way, the flooring industry

 

436

00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:22,074

kind of has been,

 

437

00:12:22,074 --> 00:12:23,743

you know, a savior to them.

 

438

00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:24,810

You know what I mean?

 

439

00:12:24,810 --> 00:12:25,344

Yeah.

 

440

00:12:25,344 --> 00:12:27,313

I and because it's hard work

 

441

00:12:27,313 --> 00:12:29,014

and if you put it in,

 

442

00:12:29,014 --> 00:12:29,582

you know what I mean?

 

443

00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:30,816

You can take a beat a floor

 

444

00:12:30,816 --> 00:12:31,350

and you can make it

 

445

00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:32,985

something beautiful again.

 

446

00:12:32,985 --> 00:12:34,954

And I think

 

447

00:12:34,954 --> 00:12:36,489

there's people in our industry

 

448

00:12:36,489 --> 00:12:37,456

that sometimes that struggle

 

449

00:12:37,456 --> 00:12:38,691

with those issues,

 

450

00:12:38,691 --> 00:12:40,626

that it's done the same thing for them.

 

451

00:12:40,626 --> 00:12:41,127

It's almost

 

452

00:12:41,127 --> 00:12:42,661

they kind of parallel

 

453

00:12:42,728 --> 00:12:43,729

each other in a way.

 

454

00:12:43,729 --> 00:12:45,164

You know what I'm saying?

 

455

00:12:45,164 --> 00:12:47,166

No, I, I worked with a guy.

 

456

00:12:48,067 --> 00:12:49,068

I work with a guy who

 

457

00:12:50,236 --> 00:12:51,871

had been in Vietnam.

 

458

00:12:51,871 --> 00:12:54,240

He got kind of messed up from Vietnam.

 

459

00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,674

And turned out,

 

460

00:12:55,674 --> 00:12:55,975

you know,

 

461

00:12:55,975 --> 00:12:57,510

he ended up with a pretty good

 

462

00:12:57,510 --> 00:12:58,878

drug problem.

 

463

00:12:58,978 --> 00:13:01,247

He spent time in jail.

 

464

00:13:01,413 --> 00:13:03,015

He really just kind of kicked around.

 

465

00:13:03,015 --> 00:13:06,018

He was not a hardwood floor guy.

 

466

00:13:06,852 --> 00:13:09,121

He had just kind of answered an ad

 

467

00:13:09,121 --> 00:13:10,656

that my dad had thrown out,

 

468

00:13:10,656 --> 00:13:10,923

you know,

 

469

00:13:10,923 --> 00:13:13,626

looking for the seasonal help and

 

470

00:13:17,229 --> 00:13:18,230

the funny part was

 

471

00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:20,566

how hard we work at this.

 

472

00:13:21,433 --> 00:13:24,570

But it turned his life around

 

473

00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:26,505

I mean, it just gave him everything

 

474

00:13:26,505 --> 00:13:28,474

that he was looking for.

 

475

00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:29,542

And I remember one day

 

476

00:13:29,542 --> 00:13:30,576

he goes, you know, the beauty

 

477

00:13:30,576 --> 00:13:32,745

is that the most beautiful part of this,

 

478

00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:35,848

it's the struggle and the struggle,

 

479

00:13:36,348 --> 00:13:39,151

you know, and had to come from,

 

480

00:13:40,219 --> 00:13:42,254

you know, you hear from other people.

 

481

00:13:42,254 --> 00:13:43,722

But I had known what he had been through,

 

482

00:13:44,690 --> 00:13:45,391

you know, because

 

483

00:13:45,391 --> 00:13:45,758

him and I

 

484

00:13:45,758 --> 00:13:46,659

were kind of roommates

 

485

00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:47,560

through the years

 

486

00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:49,895

when we were traveling and stuff.

 

487

00:13:49,895 --> 00:13:50,863

And,

 

488

00:13:51,130 --> 00:13:52,698

you know, the stories

 

489

00:13:52,698 --> 00:13:54,466

of what he went through

 

490

00:13:54,466 --> 00:13:56,435

and then where he ended up,

 

491

00:13:56,435 --> 00:13:57,670

he ended up being a

 

492

00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:59,972

you know, when I left my dad's company,

 

493

00:14:00,339 --> 00:14:02,608

he stayed. He turned into the foreman.

 

494

00:14:02,608 --> 00:14:06,212

I mean, it really turned his life around

 

495

00:14:07,046 --> 00:14:08,013

and he loved it.

 

496

00:14:08,013 --> 00:14:11,116

But that was part of what he loved about

 

497

00:14:11,116 --> 00:14:14,253

what we do was the struggle.

 

498

00:14:14,253 --> 00:14:16,689

Well, you know, sometimes we went for

 

499

00:14:16,755 --> 00:14:18,157

whether I like about hardwood floors,

 

500

00:14:18,157 --> 00:14:20,092

it's like any other day, it's

 

501

00:14:20,092 --> 00:14:22,161

it's me against that floor.

 

502

00:14:22,161 --> 00:14:24,363

And when I don't have to talk to anybody,

 

503

00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:26,432

and he just put your head down.

 

504

00:14:26,432 --> 00:14:27,533

And a lot of people, that,

 

505

00:14:27,533 --> 00:14:29,168

that that's how they're wired.

 

506

00:14:29,168 --> 00:14:31,237

They don't want to do a lot of talking.

 

507

00:14:31,237 --> 00:14:32,371

They don't want to have to interact

 

508

00:14:32,371 --> 00:14:33,572

with a lot of people.

 

509

00:14:33,572 --> 00:14:35,374

Just give me that floor

 

510

00:14:35,374 --> 00:14:37,042

and let me put my talents to it

 

511

00:14:37,042 --> 00:14:37,543

and let me,

 

512

00:14:37,543 --> 00:14:38,110

let me,

 

513

00:14:38,110 --> 00:14:40,646

let me do what I can with this with this,

 

514

00:14:41,547 --> 00:14:43,849

you know, this piece of flooring

 

515

00:14:43,849 --> 00:14:45,718

and see what I can do with it.

 

516

00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:47,820

And I think it appeals to a lot of people

 

517

00:14:47,820 --> 00:14:49,088

that that have maybe been

 

518

00:14:49,088 --> 00:14:50,522

in that situation

 

519

00:14:50,522 --> 00:14:51,123

that, you know what,

 

520

00:14:51,123 --> 00:14:52,625

I don't need to talk to anybody.

 

521

00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:52,892

You know,

 

522

00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,661

I mean, I've got my in front of me.

 

523

00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:56,762

I got what I got to do

 

524

00:14:56,762 --> 00:14:57,830

and I know what I

 

525

00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:58,731

how I can get there

 

526

00:14:58,731 --> 00:15:01,100

and put my head down and just do it.

 

527

00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:03,035

And then you become rewarded for that.

 

528

00:15:03,035 --> 00:15:04,570

And I like that part of this

 

529

00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:06,605

because there is great satisfaction in

 

530

00:15:06,605 --> 00:15:07,940

and I don't care who you are,

 

531

00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:09,842

everybody needs an attaboy,

 

532

00:15:09,842 --> 00:15:13,545

a pat on the back and I like the fact

 

533

00:15:13,545 --> 00:15:14,880

that these jobs sometimes

 

534

00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,414

are only a week

 

535

00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:17,283

long or two weeks long or whatever.

 

536

00:15:17,283 --> 00:15:18,851

So you get to see that's one thing

 

537

00:15:18,851 --> 00:15:19,785

I really liked about

 

538

00:15:19,785 --> 00:15:21,453

I was running a jackhammer

 

539

00:15:21,453 --> 00:15:23,322

before I got in this industry.

 

540

00:15:23,322 --> 00:15:25,457

I ran a jackhammer at a sewage plant.

 

541

00:15:25,891 --> 00:15:26,892

OK, let me tell you something.

 

542

00:15:26,892 --> 00:15:27,359

There's not a hell of

 

543

00:15:27,359 --> 00:15:28,460

a lot of satisfaction in that

 

544

00:15:31,830 --> 00:15:34,099

there's this there's this that.

 

545

00:15:34,099 --> 00:15:34,800

I

 

546

00:15:36,368 --> 00:15:37,736

all work is honorable,

 

547

00:15:37,736 --> 00:15:39,838

but all I can see is the Three Stooges.

 

548

00:15:40,306 --> 00:15:40,706

Man.

 

549

00:15:40,706 --> 00:15:41,840

And doing this jackhammer

 

550

00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,410

and through some kind of pipe. And then.

 

551

00:15:44,410 --> 00:15:46,312

Man, you talk about a miserable,

 

552

00:15:46,312 --> 00:15:47,713

hard job, man.

 

553

00:15:47,713 --> 00:15:48,247

And we weren't

 

554

00:15:48,247 --> 00:15:49,615

jackhammering on the ground

 

555

00:15:49,615 --> 00:15:50,582

like steel jackhammer

 

556

00:15:50,582 --> 00:15:51,717

going down the street.

 

557

00:15:51,717 --> 00:15:52,384

We're blowing out

 

558

00:15:52,384 --> 00:15:54,119

walls at a 90 degree angle.

 

559

00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:56,355

The £90 jackhammer all day.

 

560

00:15:56,355 --> 00:15:58,357

So it's a hard job.

 

561

00:15:58,357 --> 00:16:00,225

So that that's

 

562

00:16:00,225 --> 00:16:01,260

what I love about the trade

 

563

00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:02,928

is that in a short amount of time,

 

564

00:16:02,928 --> 00:16:04,263

you get to see the satisfaction

 

565

00:16:04,263 --> 00:16:05,497

of a beautiful job

 

566

00:16:05,497 --> 00:16:06,732

and most of the time

 

567

00:16:06,732 --> 00:16:08,701

you're seeing a grateful homeowner

 

568

00:16:08,701 --> 00:16:09,401

or a builder.

 

569

00:16:09,401 --> 00:16:10,669

They're like really appreciated it

 

570

00:16:10,669 --> 00:16:11,637

now more than ever

 

571

00:16:11,637 --> 00:16:13,806

because it's harder to find guys.

 

572

00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:15,207

So I love the fact that

 

573

00:16:15,207 --> 00:16:17,309

this is a great career for people

 

574

00:16:18,043 --> 00:16:18,978

that need a second chance.

 

575

00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:20,879

Maybe, you know what I mean?

 

576

00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:21,680

And I'll tell you,

 

577

00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,849

I know more than I can tell you

 

578

00:16:24,583 --> 00:16:26,385

people that maybe struggle with addiction

 

579

00:16:26,385 --> 00:16:27,853

or alcohol or

 

580

00:16:27,853 --> 00:16:29,655

or things in the past or whatever

 

581

00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:31,991

it is, start you at zero.

 

582

00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:33,692

Like, you know what? None of that matters

 

583

00:16:35,427 --> 00:16:36,462

is that

 

584

00:16:36,462 --> 00:16:37,896

the trade would be a great place for you.

 

585

00:16:37,896 --> 00:16:39,498

So I don't know.

 

586

00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:40,165

Just on the way

 

587

00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:40,366

home,

 

588

00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:41,900

I was just kind of thinking about it

 

589

00:16:41,900 --> 00:16:42,735

and that

 

590

00:16:42,735 --> 00:16:44,336

maybe we would talk about a little bit.

 

591

00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:46,372

Now that guy that I know

 

592

00:16:46,372 --> 00:16:48,640

and that was his story.

 

593

00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,243

That was his exact story, OK?

 

594

00:16:51,243 --> 00:16:54,813

He was he was down he was down and out.

 

595

00:16:55,114 --> 00:16:55,981

And

 

596

00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:58,017

it was just amazing

 

597

00:16:58,017 --> 00:16:58,350

to see

 

598

00:16:58,350 --> 00:16:59,451

what he turned into

 

599

00:16:59,451 --> 00:17:01,620

after about ten years.

 

600

00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:03,756

I mean, that the change that he went

 

601

00:17:03,756 --> 00:17:04,757

through in his life

 

602

00:17:04,757 --> 00:17:06,859

and everything was just

 

603

00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:08,060

amazing.

 

604

00:17:08,093 --> 00:17:09,428

Well, there's something about learning

 

605

00:17:09,428 --> 00:17:11,730

a craft that instills confidence.

 

606

00:17:11,730 --> 00:17:12,998

And then, you know,

 

607

00:17:12,998 --> 00:17:15,067

you know, a little bit better,

 

608

00:17:15,067 --> 00:17:16,435

a little bit more

 

609

00:17:16,435 --> 00:17:17,936

a little bit more responsibility.

 

610

00:17:17,936 --> 00:17:20,139

And then pretty soon you're

 

611

00:17:20,139 --> 00:17:21,840

you turn around, you're a craftsman,

 

612

00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,275

you're doing something that

 

613

00:17:23,275 --> 00:17:23,942

that you know,

 

614

00:17:23,942 --> 00:17:25,411

people with college

 

615

00:17:25,411 --> 00:17:26,979

degrees can't do with,

 

616

00:17:26,979 --> 00:17:27,913

you know, fancy house

 

617

00:17:27,913 --> 00:17:28,213

or whatever,

 

618

00:17:28,213 --> 00:17:29,314

that they would love to be able

 

619

00:17:29,314 --> 00:17:31,283

to have the skills or even the

 

620

00:17:31,283 --> 00:17:33,852

I even myself now, like, I

 

621

00:17:34,353 --> 00:17:35,687

I don't want to do I don't want it

 

622

00:17:35,687 --> 00:17:38,090

like I need to replace my front porch.

 

623

00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:39,792

It's too hard. I don't do it.

 

624

00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:40,526

I've done it all.

 

625

00:17:40,526 --> 00:17:41,727

I've done all that. You know what I mean?

 

626

00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:42,928

And so

 

627

00:17:42,995 --> 00:17:44,797

there's people that need to service.

 

628

00:17:44,797 --> 00:17:46,765

And so I just think there's

 

629

00:17:46,765 --> 00:17:48,801

something about that man that that then

 

630

00:17:49,401 --> 00:17:50,636

that instills confidence

 

631

00:17:51,603 --> 00:17:52,071

and there's

 

632

00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:53,405

nothing

 

633

00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:54,073

nothing more

 

634

00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:55,707

honorable to me than hard work.

 

635

00:17:55,707 --> 00:17:56,608

I don't give a damn.

 

636

00:17:56,608 --> 00:17:57,176

What what

 

637

00:17:57,176 --> 00:17:58,544

if you're a shoeshine guy

 

638

00:17:58,544 --> 00:17:59,611

or if you're

 

639

00:17:59,611 --> 00:18:00,145

if you're,

 

640

00:18:00,145 --> 00:18:02,147

you're digging a ditch or whatever?

 

641

00:18:02,147 --> 00:18:05,117

I just respect the hell out of anybody

 

642

00:18:05,117 --> 00:18:06,118

that puts their head down

 

643

00:18:06,118 --> 00:18:07,920

and works their butt off.

 

644

00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:09,688

So I don't know.

 

645

00:18:09,688 --> 00:18:10,556

You know what else?

 

646

00:18:10,556 --> 00:18:10,956

I'll tell you?

 

647

00:18:10,956 --> 00:18:12,591

That that guy that I was talking about,

 

648

00:18:12,591 --> 00:18:14,159

you know what else he loved

 

649

00:18:14,159 --> 00:18:17,396

he loved being part of a crew.

 

650

00:18:17,429 --> 00:18:19,098

He loved being part of the crew.

 

651

00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:20,866

OK, there is

 

652

00:18:20,866 --> 00:18:22,367

and I've said this before,

 

653

00:18:22,367 --> 00:18:24,002

I love being on a team.

 

654

00:18:24,002 --> 00:18:26,171

I think that's why I like

 

655

00:18:26,672 --> 00:18:28,006

working in the family business

 

656

00:18:28,006 --> 00:18:29,341

and everything is

 

657

00:18:29,341 --> 00:18:31,276

because we did have a big crew.

 

658

00:18:31,276 --> 00:18:33,479

We had like an eight man crew

 

659

00:18:33,479 --> 00:18:35,114

all on the job at the same time.

 

660

00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:36,815

We did some, you know, some big

 

661

00:18:36,815 --> 00:18:39,118

projects and everything. And

 

662

00:18:40,285 --> 00:18:41,153

there was that whole

 

663

00:18:41,153 --> 00:18:43,122

thing of relying on the guy next to you.

 

664

00:18:43,122 --> 00:18:43,822

You know, he's

 

665

00:18:43,822 --> 00:18:45,257

got to keep his stuff going

 

666

00:18:45,257 --> 00:18:47,059

so you can keep going.

 

667

00:18:47,059 --> 00:18:48,861

And everybody,

 

668

00:18:48,861 --> 00:18:49,862

you know, everybody

 

669

00:18:49,862 --> 00:18:52,164

chasing the same rainbow there

 

670

00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:54,466

he loved it.

 

671

00:18:54,466 --> 00:18:56,502

I mean, that was another. Yeah.

 

672

00:18:56,502 --> 00:18:57,569

And I'll tell you another thing

 

673

00:18:57,569 --> 00:18:58,770

that was great about him

 

674

00:18:58,770 --> 00:19:02,074

was he was tough on the younger guys.

 

675

00:19:02,107 --> 00:19:04,743

That didn't appreciate being on a crew,

 

676

00:19:04,743 --> 00:19:06,345

being part of the team,

 

677

00:19:06,345 --> 00:19:07,913

you know, that kind of thing.

 

678

00:19:07,913 --> 00:19:10,315

So it was it was a great time.

 

679

00:19:10,349 --> 00:19:11,116

He was

 

680

00:19:11,283 --> 00:19:12,651

that was a really

 

681

00:19:12,651 --> 00:19:14,920

that was a great ten years of my life

 

682

00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,988

working with him

 

683

00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:18,457

and learned a lot from him.

 

684

00:19:18,457 --> 00:19:19,491

I also think

 

685

00:19:19,491 --> 00:19:20,659

there's a very important word

 

686

00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:22,227

that that comes along with this, and

 

687

00:19:22,227 --> 00:19:23,095

that word is trust.

 

688

00:19:24,096 --> 00:19:25,797

Sometimes when you lose that

 

689

00:19:25,797 --> 00:19:27,432

where people trust you

 

690

00:19:27,432 --> 00:19:30,903

and now you get that back, you know what

 

691

00:19:30,903 --> 00:19:31,170

I mean?

 

692

00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:32,771

And people depend on you.

 

693

00:19:32,771 --> 00:19:33,505

And, you know,

 

694

00:19:33,505 --> 00:19:35,541

you're that guy putting that coat on.

 

695

00:19:35,541 --> 00:19:37,042

And, you know,

 

696

00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:37,776

at the end of the day,

 

697

00:19:37,776 --> 00:19:39,077

it's all on your shoulders

 

698

00:19:39,077 --> 00:19:39,645

and what have you.

 

699

00:19:39,645 --> 00:19:40,812

And I think there's something beautiful

 

700

00:19:40,812 --> 00:19:41,313

about that.

 

701

00:19:41,313 --> 00:19:43,749

And and with that, trust comes again,

 

702

00:19:43,815 --> 00:19:45,884

a confidence that comes with that.

 

703

00:19:45,884 --> 00:19:47,186

And I think that

 

704

00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,388

that those things come back to you

 

705

00:19:49,821 --> 00:19:50,556

that just

 

706

00:19:50,556 --> 00:19:51,690

comes back to that floor

 

707

00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:54,326

that was beat up and worn out and abused

 

708

00:19:54,326 --> 00:19:55,160

and whatever

 

709

00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,029

that you bring the oil back to it,

 

710

00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:58,330

you bring the shine back to it,

 

711

00:19:58,330 --> 00:19:59,198

you bring all the, you know,

 

712

00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:00,532

whatever back to it.

 

713

00:20:00,532 --> 00:20:02,701

I think those things come back to you

 

714

00:20:02,701 --> 00:20:04,269

as a person as well.

 

715

00:20:04,269 --> 00:20:05,871

And so I love it.

 

716

00:20:05,871 --> 00:20:07,172

I love when I see

 

717

00:20:07,172 --> 00:20:09,274

everybody needs a second shot, man.

 

718

00:20:09,274 --> 00:20:10,943

Sometimes the third shot

 

719

00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:12,444

and I love it

 

720

00:20:12,444 --> 00:20:14,112

when guys get a chance to do it in there

 

721

00:20:14,112 --> 00:20:16,381

and they take that that shot

 

722

00:20:16,381 --> 00:20:18,083

and they do something with it.

 

723

00:20:18,083 --> 00:20:19,318

So I think this

 

724

00:20:19,318 --> 00:20:21,320

we talk a lot about the Florida industry.

 

725

00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,154

I mean, Florida's

 

726

00:20:22,154 --> 00:20:23,622

probably saved a lot of people's life

 

727

00:20:24,723 --> 00:20:26,191

for that reason.

 

728

00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:27,626

Good, hard work.

 

729

00:20:27,626 --> 00:20:29,795

Sometimes some people need it,

 

730

00:20:29,795 --> 00:20:31,263

need need that.

 

731

00:20:31,263 --> 00:20:31,597

I was

 

732

00:20:31,597 --> 00:20:32,564

I was talking to someone

 

733

00:20:32,564 --> 00:20:34,633

not too long ago that was a

 

734

00:20:34,633 --> 00:20:36,068

that went to a maybe.

 

735

00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:36,835

In fact, it was you.

 

736

00:20:36,835 --> 00:20:38,337

I think you were in that conversation

 

737

00:20:38,337 --> 00:20:39,338

where prisoners were

 

738

00:20:39,338 --> 00:20:41,373

hands scraping floors in prison.

 

739

00:20:41,707 --> 00:20:43,242

Oh yeah.

 

740

00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:45,310

For $0.30 a day.

 

741

00:20:45,777 --> 00:20:46,311

Yeah.

 

742

00:20:47,546 --> 00:20:49,648

And working harder than anybody.

 

743

00:20:49,648 --> 00:20:51,183

Maybe you can tell us that story, Rob.

 

744

00:20:51,183 --> 00:20:52,517

I thought that was interesting.

 

745

00:20:52,517 --> 00:20:55,921

Well, the guy's name was Mike Sandel,

 

746

00:20:56,688 --> 00:20:59,524

and he had left the previous company

 

747

00:20:59,524 --> 00:21:00,993

you and I had worked for,

 

748

00:21:00,993 --> 00:21:04,663

and somehow he got

 

749

00:21:05,697 --> 00:21:07,165

I don't know how he got it.

 

750

00:21:07,165 --> 00:21:09,001

I don't know how he figured out

 

751

00:21:09,001 --> 00:21:10,135

how to do this,

 

752

00:21:10,135 --> 00:21:11,903

but he had two prisons

 

753

00:21:11,903 --> 00:21:12,571

down in South

 

754

00:21:12,571 --> 00:21:16,041

Carolina to Maxim room security prisons

 

755

00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:18,210

that were

 

756

00:21:18,377 --> 00:21:19,378

they had set up

 

757

00:21:19,378 --> 00:21:21,813

hand scraping floor stations.

 

758

00:21:21,813 --> 00:21:24,116

And he said one, you know, one joke.

 

759

00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:25,284

He said Yeah, I'm

 

760

00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:25,517

not going

 

761

00:21:25,517 --> 00:21:27,886

to mention the name of the company.

 

762

00:21:27,886 --> 00:21:28,186

He said,

 

763

00:21:28,186 --> 00:21:29,554

but when you see this

 

764

00:21:29,554 --> 00:21:31,023

such and such company and says

 

765

00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:32,758

Amish hands, grave floors,

 

766

00:21:32,758 --> 00:21:33,091

he said,

 

767

00:21:33,091 --> 00:21:36,461

it was great by my boys in every prison.

 

768

00:21:37,262 --> 00:21:38,363

So I was like,

 

769

00:21:38,363 --> 00:21:40,966

you know, I can't believe that you're

 

770

00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:42,467

you're doing this in a prison.

 

771

00:21:42,467 --> 00:21:44,303

This is insane. You know, I said

 

772

00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:46,305

he goes,

 

773

00:21:46,605 --> 00:21:47,606

you know, usually

 

774

00:21:47,606 --> 00:21:49,007

they just made one mistake.

 

775

00:21:49,007 --> 00:21:50,742

You know, somebody murder somebody.

 

776

00:21:50,742 --> 00:21:52,678

It's you know, they just made a mistake.

 

777

00:21:52,678 --> 00:21:53,912

He said,

 

778

00:21:53,912 --> 00:21:56,481

so I said, you're given these guys £7

 

779

00:21:57,249 --> 00:22:00,085

shark scrapers

 

780

00:22:00,786 --> 00:22:03,088

I said, they're they're convicted felons.

 

781

00:22:03,188 --> 00:22:04,923

And he said, listen,

 

782

00:22:04,923 --> 00:22:05,891

what you don't understand

 

783

00:22:05,891 --> 00:22:07,893

is most of these guys have a family.

 

784

00:22:07,893 --> 00:22:09,027

Most of these guys know

 

785

00:22:09,027 --> 00:22:10,429

that they screwed up

 

786

00:22:10,429 --> 00:22:12,130

they're just looking for another chance.

 

787

00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:14,199

He said people are standing in line

 

788

00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:17,703

to get involved with this hand

 

789

00:22:17,703 --> 00:22:18,337

scraping thing

 

790

00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:20,972

that they were doing at the prisons.

 

791

00:22:20,972 --> 00:22:21,273

He said.

 

792

00:22:21,273 --> 00:22:23,208

Because once you go to prison,

 

793

00:22:23,208 --> 00:22:23,942

you can't provide

 

794

00:22:23,942 --> 00:22:25,210

for your family anymore,

 

795

00:22:25,210 --> 00:22:26,745

he said now they're

 

796

00:22:26,745 --> 00:22:27,079

you know,

 

797

00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:27,679

they were paying them

 

798

00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:28,780

a couple of bucks an hour.

 

799

00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:31,883

I think it was below minimum wage or,

 

800

00:22:31,917 --> 00:22:32,851

you know, whatever,

 

801

00:22:34,653 --> 00:22:35,987

whatever a prison can pay.

 

802

00:22:35,987 --> 00:22:36,621

That was you know,

 

803

00:22:36,621 --> 00:22:39,658

it doesn't seem like much, but these guys

 

804

00:22:39,658 --> 00:22:40,692

were having a chance

 

805

00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:42,894

to send something back to their family

 

806

00:22:42,894 --> 00:22:44,463

and still feel

 

807

00:22:44,463 --> 00:22:46,698

he said, we never had a problem.

 

808

00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:47,165

He goes, Yeah,

 

809

00:22:47,165 --> 00:22:47,532

we had to

 

810

00:22:47,532 --> 00:22:48,767

go through metal detectors

 

811

00:22:48,767 --> 00:22:50,235

and everything but

 

812

00:22:50,235 --> 00:22:50,702

he goes,

 

813

00:22:50,702 --> 00:22:54,005

People did not want to screw up one bit

 

814

00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,875

because this was such

 

815

00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:58,510

a great opportunity.

 

816

00:22:58,510 --> 00:23:00,712

Hardwood floors are a great opportunity.

 

817

00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,915

When a crack me up is that you're seeing

 

818

00:23:03,915 --> 00:23:06,151

that these guys work their tail off

 

819

00:23:06,151 --> 00:23:06,885

like you think. All right.

 

820

00:23:06,885 --> 00:23:08,019

Well, what's incentive?

 

821

00:23:08,019 --> 00:23:08,520

I would just

 

822

00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:08,687

you know,

 

823

00:23:08,687 --> 00:23:09,821

I wouldn't work that hard or whatever,

 

824

00:23:09,821 --> 00:23:12,257

but it was the opposite of that.

 

825

00:23:12,257 --> 00:23:12,924

Yeah.

 

826

00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:13,825

Yeah,

 

827

00:23:14,459 --> 00:23:14,993

they were saying them,

 

828

00:23:14,993 --> 00:23:16,528

but I think they paid them by the piece

 

829

00:23:16,528 --> 00:23:17,496

or by the hour, he said.

 

830

00:23:17,496 --> 00:23:21,133

But everybody wanted in on that gig.

 

831

00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:22,734

And he goes, That was like,

 

832

00:23:24,002 --> 00:23:24,970

you know,

 

833

00:23:25,036 --> 00:23:27,005

what do they call that?

 

834

00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:29,074

Piecework?

 

835

00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:30,409

No, not piecework.

 

836

00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:32,010

But when you

 

837

00:23:34,112 --> 00:23:35,647

drive me nuts,

 

838

00:23:37,682 --> 00:23:39,451

you got this gig

 

839

00:23:39,451 --> 00:23:41,686

if you had good behavior,

 

840

00:23:41,686 --> 00:23:44,222

OK, you know, I mean, well, however,

 

841

00:23:44,489 --> 00:23:46,691

the you were rewarded for good behavior.

 

842

00:23:47,192 --> 00:23:50,028

I got all that going.

 

843

00:23:50,562 --> 00:23:52,164

It's great floors

 

844

00:23:52,164 --> 00:23:53,365

because he said the other thing

 

845

00:23:53,365 --> 00:23:54,866

about guys in prison,

 

846

00:23:54,866 --> 00:23:55,801

there's nothing to do.

 

847

00:23:55,801 --> 00:23:56,601

You know, there's

 

848

00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:58,770

there's not a lot to do.

 

849

00:23:58,770 --> 00:24:00,906

He said that's why this was, you know,

 

850

00:24:00,972 --> 00:24:01,339

the guys

 

851

00:24:01,339 --> 00:24:04,342

who were on good behavior things.

 

852

00:24:04,342 --> 00:24:06,511

They were the ones who were

 

853

00:24:06,511 --> 00:24:07,913

that's how they were rewarded

 

854

00:24:07,913 --> 00:24:09,514

was getting on this group.

 

855

00:24:09,514 --> 00:24:10,282

It was crazy.

 

856

00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:10,949

I mean,

 

857

00:24:11,817 --> 00:24:12,584

he was talking to me

 

858

00:24:12,584 --> 00:24:14,753

about it a while and some

 

859

00:24:16,688 --> 00:24:19,758

the couple of conventions ago.

 

860

00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:22,260

And then he started telling me,

 

861

00:24:23,228 --> 00:24:24,429

hey, Mike, what are you doing now?

 

862

00:24:24,429 --> 00:24:25,530

And when he

 

863

00:24:26,064 --> 00:24:27,365

I just started cracking up,

 

864

00:24:27,365 --> 00:24:29,768

I said, only you could have figured out

 

865

00:24:30,502 --> 00:24:32,671

how did I get this going?

 

866

00:24:34,172 --> 00:24:36,274

Well, we started off this episode

 

867

00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:38,009

talking about

 

868

00:24:38,009 --> 00:24:39,911

I don't want to ever lose the passion

 

869

00:24:39,911 --> 00:24:40,412

for this,

 

870

00:24:40,412 --> 00:24:41,880

and I don't ever take it for granted.

 

871

00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,114

I hope people don't take for granted

 

872

00:24:43,114 --> 00:24:44,149

because they're not seeing

 

873

00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:45,450

their flaws on social media.

 

874

00:24:45,450 --> 00:24:46,251

That is

 

875

00:24:46,384 --> 00:24:47,619

foreigner's square foot room,

 

876

00:24:47,619 --> 00:24:49,120

and it's just four walls

 

877

00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,188

that is not as important

 

878

00:24:50,188 --> 00:24:51,490

as another floor.

 

879

00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:53,124

That's a high profile floor.

 

880

00:24:53,124 --> 00:24:54,392

There is beauty and honor

 

881

00:24:54,392 --> 00:24:55,627

and art in all of this,

 

882

00:24:55,627 --> 00:24:56,661

just the

 

883

00:24:56,728 --> 00:24:58,196

taking of law from the condition

 

884

00:24:58,196 --> 00:24:58,897

it was in

 

885

00:24:58,897 --> 00:24:59,598

and bringing it up

 

886

00:24:59,598 --> 00:25:01,233

to what you can do with it.

 

887

00:25:01,233 --> 00:25:02,567

I that

 

888

00:25:02,567 --> 00:25:04,336

I hope that it never goes away for people

 

889

00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,871

because it doesn't for me.

 

890

00:25:05,871 --> 00:25:07,939

I still appreciate a floor that's just

 

891

00:25:07,939 --> 00:25:09,641

just a regular routine floor.

 

892

00:25:09,641 --> 00:25:09,975

Nothing,

 

893

00:25:09,975 --> 00:25:13,411

nothing fancy about it as much as I do,

 

894

00:25:14,012 --> 00:25:15,814

as long as it's done right.

 

895

00:25:15,814 --> 00:25:16,381

You know what I mean?

 

896

00:25:16,381 --> 00:25:18,183

It's done right and it's done it

 

897

00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:19,951

beautifully flat and everything.

 

898

00:25:19,951 --> 00:25:20,819

Then to me,

 

899

00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:22,120

that's just just as a

 

900

00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:23,622

as an important is one

 

901

00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:25,690

that's a fancy floor that we see

 

902

00:25:25,891 --> 00:25:27,125

and probably

 

903

00:25:27,125 --> 00:25:28,994

probably made more money

 

904

00:25:28,994 --> 00:25:29,761

in some cases

 

905

00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:30,595

than some of those four

 

906

00:25:30,595 --> 00:25:31,296

that we're seeing.

 

907

00:25:31,296 --> 00:25:32,097

So there's not a damn

 

908

00:25:32,097 --> 00:25:32,731

thing wrong with that.

 

909

00:25:33,798 --> 00:25:34,533

You know, when bum

 

910

00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:35,934

was I don't know,

 

911

00:25:35,934 --> 00:25:38,503

I think it was around 12,

 

912

00:25:38,503 --> 00:25:40,939

we had gone, he was really starting to,

 

913

00:25:41,573 --> 00:25:43,608

you know, run some operate some equipment

 

914

00:25:43,608 --> 00:25:45,277

and you know, he was really starting

 

915

00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:47,212

to sand floors in with me

 

916

00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:48,380

during the summer.

 

917

00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:51,583

And we went into this one kitchen

 

918

00:25:51,583 --> 00:25:54,419

old house, probably close to 100 years

 

919

00:25:54,419 --> 00:25:57,022

old, maple kitchen floor.

 

920

00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,858

And it had this best, this tile on top.

 

921

00:26:00,659 --> 00:26:02,994

So everything was stained

 

922

00:26:02,994 --> 00:26:04,095

and you had the lines

 

923

00:26:04,095 --> 00:26:05,497

after you took the tile up.

 

924

00:26:05,497 --> 00:26:05,830

And then,

 

925

00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:08,567

you know, it was a it was a disaster.

 

926

00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,534

You know,

 

927

00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:11,303

it was a disaster.

 

928

00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:12,370

And the lady

 

929

00:26:12,370 --> 00:26:13,405

when we're getting there, unload

 

930

00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:15,907

and everything she's like, you know,

 

931

00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:17,142

I know what you didn't know

 

932

00:26:17,142 --> 00:26:18,076

what the floor look like

 

933

00:26:18,076 --> 00:26:19,110

when you did the estimate

 

934

00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:20,612

because of the tile and,

 

935

00:26:20,612 --> 00:26:22,280

you know, just do the best you can.

 

936

00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,782

And I was like, yeah, no problem.

 

937

00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:24,149

You know,

 

938

00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:25,250

and and bums

 

939

00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:26,851

looking at me like, oh, my God,

 

940

00:26:26,851 --> 00:26:28,019

you know what?

 

941

00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,554

And I'm really

 

942

00:26:29,554 --> 00:26:30,755

I kind of know

 

943

00:26:30,755 --> 00:26:32,958

that this is going to look good.

 

944

00:26:32,958 --> 00:26:33,658

Mm.

 

945

00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:34,993

The tile on the glue

 

946

00:26:34,993 --> 00:26:37,329

and everything was dry, all dry. So

 

947

00:26:39,364 --> 00:26:39,731

actually,

 

948

00:26:39,731 --> 00:26:41,099

I think the tile did a great job

 

949

00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:42,767

of protecting the floor.

 

950

00:26:42,767 --> 00:26:44,936

OK. Yeah. Yeah.

 

951

00:26:44,936 --> 00:26:46,338

So we sanded it,

 

952

00:26:46,338 --> 00:26:48,340

and he's getting all jumpy, like, wow.

 

953

00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:48,840

Wow.

 

954

00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,875

Like, yeah, yeah, whatever.

 

955

00:26:52,811 --> 00:26:55,080

We get a coat on just as we're,

 

956

00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,248

you know, loading up after we coated it,

 

957

00:26:58,116 --> 00:27:00,485

the homeowner, she comes home,

 

958

00:27:00,485 --> 00:27:02,554

she's there in the doorway.

 

959

00:27:02,554 --> 00:27:04,956

And she starts crying.

 

960

00:27:05,957 --> 00:27:07,292

And I'm like, is everything OK?

 

961

00:27:07,292 --> 00:27:09,427

She's like, I, I just.

 

962

00:27:09,427 --> 00:27:11,663

You don't know how happy I am right now.

 

963

00:27:11,663 --> 00:27:14,532

I had no idea that this floor would look

 

964

00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:15,734

and I'm

 

965

00:27:15,734 --> 00:27:17,235

just kind of like, yeah, well,

 

966

00:27:17,235 --> 00:27:19,337

you know, yeah,

 

967

00:27:19,904 --> 00:27:21,539

that's what we do, right?

 

968

00:27:21,539 --> 00:27:23,441

We're driving home.

 

969

00:27:23,441 --> 00:27:25,477

And that's why I think what really

 

970

00:27:26,911 --> 00:27:28,680

what really set bomb

 

971

00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,749

in on the path that he's on now

 

972

00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:32,350

with with doing floors.

 

973

00:27:33,451 --> 00:27:34,285

Because I remember

 

974

00:27:34,285 --> 00:27:35,286

him driving home

 

975

00:27:35,286 --> 00:27:38,156

and he just kept saying the same thing.

 

976

00:27:38,156 --> 00:27:40,458

He's like, I can't believe

 

977

00:27:40,458 --> 00:27:41,493

we changed your life.

 

978

00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:42,927

We've made it so happy.

 

979

00:27:42,927 --> 00:27:44,996

He started the whole wow.

 

980

00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:47,298

The whole craft and art

 

981

00:27:47,298 --> 00:27:49,000

and you know what it look like

 

982

00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,235

and what it looks like now

 

983

00:27:50,235 --> 00:27:52,737

and how it affects people and all that.

 

984

00:27:52,737 --> 00:27:53,338

And the whole time,

 

985

00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:55,473

I'm like, Yeah, whatever, you know?

 

986

00:27:55,473 --> 00:27:56,975

Right. Yeah.

 

987

00:27:57,442 --> 00:27:58,009

It's funny.

 

988

00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,477

I tell you the same thing.

 

989

00:27:59,477 --> 00:28:00,412

I was in San Francisco.

 

990

00:28:00,412 --> 00:28:02,480

I so it was probably in the first month

 

991

00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,149

or two that I was doing floors

 

992

00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:06,351

and it was a new linoleum

 

993

00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:08,253

and you couldn't really see

 

994

00:28:08,253 --> 00:28:09,354

much about the floors at all.

 

995

00:28:09,354 --> 00:28:10,355

You can really make them out

 

996

00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:11,990

just, you know, they were hardwood

 

997

00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:13,258

and we sanded them

 

998

00:28:13,258 --> 00:28:14,292

and there was diamond

 

999

00:28:14,292 --> 00:28:16,294

walnut diamonds in the border.

 

1000

00:28:16,294 --> 00:28:17,162

We had no idea.

 

1001

00:28:17,162 --> 00:28:18,363

She had no idea.

 

1002

00:28:18,363 --> 00:28:19,364

And everything

 

1003

00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,399

cleaned off like Snow White.

 

1004

00:28:21,399 --> 00:28:23,468

And I mean, she came home and I,

 

1005

00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:25,003

I don't know who was more blown away.

 

1006

00:28:25,003 --> 00:28:26,071

Her? Me.

 

1007

00:28:26,071 --> 00:28:28,139

Yeah. I fell in love at that moment.

 

1008

00:28:28,506 --> 00:28:30,742

Found a buried treasure. Yeah.

 

1009

00:28:30,742 --> 00:28:32,077

Not with her, with the floor up

 

1010

00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:34,946

just.

 

1011

00:28:34,946 --> 00:28:36,481

I mean, I absolutely

 

1012

00:28:36,481 --> 00:28:38,116

was blown away that this could happen.

 

1013

00:28:38,116 --> 00:28:40,819

And that's probably what, what got me to.

 

1014

00:28:40,852 --> 00:28:42,754

So love it.

 

1015

00:28:42,754 --> 00:28:43,555

All right, Rob.

 

1016

00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:44,889

Well, hey, look, man, it's

 

1017

00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:45,824

always a pleasure.

 

1018

00:28:45,824 --> 00:28:46,491

Every weekend,

 

1019

00:28:46,491 --> 00:28:47,826

a chance to visit with you.

 

1020

00:28:47,826 --> 00:28:48,326

I feel like they're

 

1021

00:28:48,326 --> 00:28:49,561

just like a fireside chat.

 

1022

00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:51,529

Just me and you talking once a week.

 

1023

00:28:51,529 --> 00:28:53,231

It's kind of kind of weird tonight

 

1024

00:28:53,231 --> 00:28:54,766

at the same time, man.

 

1025

00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:56,835

So thanks, Rob, for everything.

 

1026

00:28:56,835 --> 00:28:58,670

All right. Pleasure, buddy.

 

1027

00:28:58,670 --> 00:28:59,571

All right.

 

1028

00:28:59,571 --> 00:29:01,005

I want to try your spaghetti sauce

 

1029

00:29:01,005 --> 00:29:02,073

here in the next few days.

 

1030

00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:03,341

I'll let you know how it turns out.

 

1031

00:29:03,341 --> 00:29:06,945

Oh, man, you are going to be pumped.

 

1032

00:29:07,645 --> 00:29:08,046

All right?

 

1033

00:29:08,046 --> 00:29:08,880

So you're going to cook it all

 

1034

00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,647

night, right?

 

1035

00:29:09,647 --> 00:29:10,615

You're going to cook it all night

 

1036

00:29:10,615 --> 00:29:12,150

tonight? Yep.

 

1037

00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:13,752

Slow, slow, slow, slow.

 

1038

00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:15,386

Yep. Very low heat.

 

1039

00:29:15,386 --> 00:29:17,522

All dialed in. All dialed in.

 

1040

00:29:17,789 --> 00:29:20,058

And tomorrow morning

 

1041

00:29:20,058 --> 00:29:23,061

for breakfast, 10:00 we turn it off,

 

1042

00:29:24,028 --> 00:29:26,598

let it cool down all day, OK?

 

1043

00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:28,900

And reheat a little bit that night.

 

1044

00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:30,068

Forget about it.

 

1045

00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:30,401

All right.

 

1046

00:29:30,401 --> 00:29:31,903

That's all you ever had.

 

1047

00:29:31,903 --> 00:29:33,638

About a boom Barbie.

 

1048

00:29:33,638 --> 00:29:35,373

Forget about it.

 

1049

00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:36,608

This has been another episode

 

1050

00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:38,276

of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

1051

00:29:38,276 --> 00:29:39,677

Please stay tuned for another episode.