Wayne and Rob discuss tips and tricks to storing and using hardwood flooring sandpaper. In addition, they discuss the features and benefits of Bona Abrasives. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/
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Hello and welcome to another episode
of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
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Wayne Highlander,
national sales manager, Bona Adhesives.
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And I'm Rob Johnson from Bona Training.
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Well, Rob.
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How are you doing? But doing OK.
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Are you.
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No. I don't think so.
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I am.
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I can go years without getting sick.
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I've been sick three times this year.
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I don't know what's going on,
but whatever.
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So my voice is a little bit hoarse
and my nose is running
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and I'm But so.
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So I apologize for that. So tell us more.
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Tell us more.
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Nose is running your body aches, headache.
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You want to get more graphic than that?
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Definitely more graphic.
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But it's not me.
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I think the audience wants to know.
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I really.
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I really don't think
you do for graphic. Yeah,
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I'm out here in.
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I got to say,
can I tell your official story?
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Love to.
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I we got we got something that I don't
think any other has ever got before.
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Ever.
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Officially for two days at Trinity Lake.
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If anybody knows California, Trinity
Lake is
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if there's a prettier lake in California.
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I haven't seen it.
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And it has to be in the top
five best fisheries in the country.
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And it is the best kept secret areas.
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You won't see ten, ten boats on the lake
all day.
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And it's a it's a huge lake.
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The fishing is out of this world.
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And I was fishing with an incredible
fisherman.
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I mean, he is just unreal.
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How good he was.
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Was there a mirror in the boat?
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No, I loved it.
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I'd love to say that I'm better than him.
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As a matter of fact, most things I learned
from bass fishing, I learned from him.
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Wow. Or.
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Yeah,
either from him or indirectly through him.
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I the guy is,
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you know, he's incredible.
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But so on the way home,
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it's a long drive
through the mountains to get out of there.
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And then once you get there,
you get into Redding.
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And at Redding, we had a stoplight,
maybe a, you know, four minute or so.
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I just
I don't even think was a minute to stop.
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And then we take off again.
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We got another 15 miles
to get to a restaurant.
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So he and
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a lady passes him and honks the horn.
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We're pulling the boat.
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She honked it horn and she points at him
and I thought, Well, did he cut her off?
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He goes,
I don't think I cut her off, you know, go.
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So we go going on 15 or 20 miles.
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Don't forget the restaurant, right?
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We get out
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of the truck towards the restaurant.
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I just happened to look in the boat.
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He has my
there's a grown man hiding in the boat.
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He's face down in the lowest
part of the boat.
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It's a basketball.
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And he's,
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you know, covering his head
like in a corner,
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like, you know.
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So this is a bass boat.
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Mm hmm.
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So there's not a lot of places to hide
in the bass boat.
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They're kind of float.
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No, his head was down
where the pedals are with
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where the you know, the using 10,
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you're the guy with boys.
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Adam is like, what the hell?
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So I say, pardon? What are you doing?
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And he looks up
shot, like, oh, I don't know, man.
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I just, you know,
so I get to right with you.
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I say, get the hell out of the boat.
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What's the matter with you?
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So he gets out, he starts running. I mean,
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obviously, he's got a drug problem,
you know?
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How old was he turned?
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About 35 years old. Huh?
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Oh, my God.
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How is it that this stuff happens to you?
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You know.
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You are a lightning rod
for weirdness, man.
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I was a passenger.
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It wasn't my I wasn't driving.
It was just some I was just the past.
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You were around
it, though. You attract it.
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But how long you think he was in the boat?
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Was he?
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I think when that lady
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when that lady pointed at us,
she probably saw him jump in the boat.
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Oh, okay.
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All right.
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I thought I've been driving around
for days now.
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So we took him 25 miles down the road
all together.
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Probably and the guy that I'm with, he's
very, you know, he's really
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pretty keen in because,
you know, your tone of basketball,
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you probably don't have as many 15 rods
on the deck of the boat.
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And before some guy
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would come up at a gas station,
not to him, but other bass boats,
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they'll jump out of the car
at a stoplight,
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grab the rise and take off because you're
not gonna catch him in that know
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and the guy fish with his
got the best of everything I mean he is
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he's got the best of everything.
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So he's very aware of that.
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So we're both shocked that we never saw
it happen.
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So anyhow, I don't think there's
too many people that went fishing got 140
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£550 man so.
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Or at least one that's alive.
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Well, I know
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so we're going to talk about sandpaper
today.
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And, you know, and I think the real reason
why this sandpaper is an important
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component of the sand and finish world,
even more so than it was in the past,
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is, like we said, when it comes
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to things like the power drive in
and the game has really changed.
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I mean, I was just talking a couple days
ago with an old school floor guy
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about how we used to handsand,
you know, where we edge
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and all those different things
and how much the game has changed and
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you know, so a sequence of grits
and sandpaper
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and taking care of your sandpaper and
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when you consider costs and everything,
sandpaper is a big component.
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When you add it up over the span
of a year, you know, that doesn't go,
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you know, if your career is 20 years
or three years, 40 years,
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you know, it's it's is good
to have an understanding of sandpaper
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more than just you know, I know what
40 grit does, I know what C secret does
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and blah blah blah and you are
kind of this is in your domain. So
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I'm interested
in learning what you have to say about it.
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Well and then you just
when you just said that
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I was thinking
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out of a say in the finished job,
your three biggest
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costs, your number one cost
of course is going to be labor.
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Number two is probably going to be finish
and sandpaper is got to be
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number three, right. Yeah.
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And so it's it's a it's
definitely up there.
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I never really even considered that
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I think a lot of people
might be like that too.
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Not considering how
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where sandpaper fits
into the cost of your jobs.
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I mean, really,
I think I think it's number three.
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Yeah,
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that's what I hear for Rob.
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Yeah, it has to be number three.
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What fillers in there.
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But that can be expensive is sandpaper.
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Not like paper.
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Yeah.
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Stain stain is going to be up there,
but it is it
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you know, let's put it this way,
it's in the top five and if you consider,
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like I said, a year's span of time,
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two years, five, ten, the whole career,
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it would
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behoove of us all to to dove into it
a little bit
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more than just on,
you know, what we pick up at the counter.
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What area? Mm hmm. One thing
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right off the bat, maybe
we can talk about storage of sandpaper,
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because I think this is a big deal,
especially for people that live in
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rainy, humid climates.
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Storing the sandpaper in the boxes,
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you know, between 67 degrees Fahrenheit
and 40 to 50%.
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Reg me above that sandpaper I don't care
who sandpaper it is, you know,
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it affects the paper. Right. Sure.
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Absolutely affects the gut,
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affects productivity
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and on avoiding
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extreme temperature and humidity changes
I think as well.
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So, you know, we talk about acclimation
and there's a lot of things
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going to acclimation more than just wood.
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And decreased
humidity also causes the paper to shrink
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and then on the backing.
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So you know, there's a there's some things
to be considered there.
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So when you're talking about storage
and again, you know too moist to wet.
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Yeah it'll work
but it's just not going to go as far yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, you really
if you take that little extra time
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and you know, I used to kind of blow
this off in the schools a little bit.
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Like I never stored sandpaper.
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I kept it out in the truck no matter what.
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And well, you know, I know that a
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lost some paper
by not paying attention to those things.
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And now with the costs of everything.
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Yeah,
you got to be on point with this stuff.
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Well, that's why sometimes I see people
take it out of the original box
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and throw the box away and what have you.
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It's actually keep there.
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Keep the box are great to store it in.
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Don't put the boxes on concrete. Or steel.
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No, you won't get some air circulation
through there.
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Like you said, it'll still work.
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Of course it'll still work, but you know,
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you're not going to get the life
out of it.
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The life right or the cut that you would
probably expect to get from it.
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You can generically
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keep it out of direct sunlight
and keep it away from moisture sources.
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You know what I mean?
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If it's in a van, it's been wet and rainy
and of the dams open or what
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have you or the storage
facility is open to the elements.
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Definitely fix the paper and
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and here's the thing that I that
I think I don't know if a lot of you
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I think a lot of people know this,
but there's equally amount of people
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that don't know this
when you're storing belts,
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don't mess the belts
keep this place under tension.
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Right.
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I mean when you put the belt back together
like for instance
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when I got done with this thing
I sanded a 250 square foot kitchen OK?
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And that belt
still got a lot of weight to it.
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I would always take a Sharpie on
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inside the bill, a red Sharpie,
and I write 250 on it.
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I mean, OK, pick it up again.
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I don't have to guess.
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OK, I send it to our 50
square feet with this.
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I know it.
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But when I put the belt back in the box,
I put the, I put the, the,
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the splice under tension right now.
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Don't put a creek it. Appreciate it.
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Mm hmm. Yeah.
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Another thing when that I do it, my belt
from standing is,
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you know, you're going to get six, 700
feet out of a belt if you treat it right.
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I like to go around maybe 400 feet
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whatever you know, the size of a room.
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Stop,
take the belt out and flip it around.
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Yeah.
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As a lot of times
when you see you stand in that belt
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you know, everything with the belt
machine, you go left to right.
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So the right side of the paper
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is really doing a lot of the work
because you know, you're stripping
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if an eight inch drum, you're probably
stripping four inches at a time, right?
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So that first four inches of the paper
is really stripped and finished.
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The other four is always on bare
wood to get a little extra light
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out of the paper.
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That's why I used to like to flip it.
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And then let the left side
take the aggressive for a while.
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Mm hmm. Yep, yep. One.
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You got one more thing
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about keeping the belt on the machine.
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And this really has
nothing to do with the paper.
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It has more to do with the rubber,
the drum,
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big storm.
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That beast overnight
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take the tension off of it,
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because every once in a while,
I have a guy tell me he had chatter
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marks, or we'll get a call and
and my machines leave and chatter marks.
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And what we found is
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where the paper is on the rubber.
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Now, you know, you run the machine
eight, ten, 12 hours a day.
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All that rubber gets pretty warm,
right? Yep.
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So now you put the drum away,
you leave the drum,
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you put it out on the truck, or
you leave it on a job, whatever you leave.
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But the tension is still on the rubber.
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So now it's going to cool off overnight.
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And when it cools off, not,
you know, if it's cold
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or it doesn't even have to be cold
cause it cools off,
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it's going to cool with two flat sides
you're going to get.
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That's
what causes a lot of the chatter, mark.
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So you really want to get into the habit
of, you know,
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you going to take a lunch break
or coffee break or
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let it sit overnight.
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Just release the pressure,
at least the pressure
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that'll let the rubber come
right back to where it wants to go.
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Well, and the same with the belts
if we're going to, you know,
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go again into that as well.
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I always take the tension off the belts,
the sander, the belts on the side.
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Actually, the drive in the vacuum belt.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So those belts right there, same thing.
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They're running hot
all day. They're going to expand.
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And if you don't take the tension off,
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they're going to stay expanded
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and you're going to have to keep
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adjusting your motor
to keep those belts tight
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where if you just released the motor
at the end of the night, take the tension
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off those belts, they'll cool down
and go right back to where they are.
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And by the way, since we're there,
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take the wheels off the ground as well.
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If if my sander wasn't
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sanding a floor,
the wheels were never touching the ground.
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Oh. You're out of it.
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You're a fancy guy.
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Well, I just
I mean, as the way I was taught,
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so it's just we'll get a flat spot
on a will.
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But, I mean, there's just too much work
to leave anything to chance.
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And it takes you 5 seconds
to turn a machine over.
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Take the wheels off.
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Good call.
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I don't think I ever got into that habit
because the machines
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that I first everything that I started
with was all steel wheels.
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Remember, the early
everything was steel wheels, man.
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You could
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you could run them down train tracks, man.
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They were crazy. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Very true.
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We never thought about anything
going out of whack
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no. I mean, you know, you can now,
if you're worried about chatter
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and those type of things,
you know, the belts make a big difference.
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A lot of things can
and can lead into that.
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We're not talking about chatter
necessarily in this episode, but
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it all ties together, right?
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You know, I can't stop thinking, you know,
I can't stop thinking about that
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guy in the boat.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Now, if it was a cat, I think
you would have treated it much different.
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Well, I would have.
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Yeah.
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You would it too.
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Would I have more sympathy for.
Yeah. Yeah.
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You would have got something to eat,
maybe something to drink.
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Yeah.
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Maybe you would take it
and maybe even take it home.
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It's actually quite shocking
to look at the back
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of the boat and run man back there right
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you know.
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I wish you had taken a picture of it.
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That could have been something.
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We could have posted a picture.
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That would have been a good one.
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I took out my
my camera, take a picture of them,
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but then it felt kind of
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exploitive or whatever,
you know what I mean?
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You know the put it on, put it you know,
kind of I just didn't feel right.
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He's a human being. He's got problems, so.
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But he is what it is, obviously.
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I think he had a drug problem
so mono sandpaper
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is not like sandpaper,
like a rental rental paper.
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If you have a rental store,
there's no wild grids there.
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You can you want to
you want to kind of talk. Yeah.
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That's you know,
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that's some of the cool things not
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I know
we both learned this over the years.
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Not all sandpaper is created equal,
you know,
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and one of the things about bone
a paper is
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it is specifically made for floor sanding.
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OK, yeah.
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You're not going to find our sandpaper
bone and sandpaper in
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in any other industries, you know,
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and we have
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partnered up with a company
called C Abrasives,
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Switzerland,
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and we actually have a wood floor
laboratory there.
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So, you know, everything
that we do is designed for
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own equipment.
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But, you know, I shouldn't
say bone equipment. It's
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for the equipment
that we're using today versus what
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the old timers like you
and I go back to the steel wheels, right?
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Like those machines didn't have
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you know, they had about half of the head
pressure that we have now.
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And the RPMs weren't near
as much as we have now, you know,
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so with less RPMs, less head pressure,
or we put another way
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with all that much more head pressure
and RPMs, we've quadrupled the friction.
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So when you quadruple the friction,
we just couldn't use the old time
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sandpaper.
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That's why you see different colors,
different grades, different
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things like that.
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But just like you said, because
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because it is made
for the wood floor industry,
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we had to go with tighter tolerances,
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you know, and especially nowadays
with what everybody's dealing with.
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You know, everybody's heard me
joke about this, you know, the old 40, 80
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set and polish days
and bad lighting are gone
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everybody sees everything
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now, everything
that the guys are dealing with color,
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texture, sheen levels, all that stuff.
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So you can't have any crazy 50 grids
floating around in your 80 grid
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because you going to put a scratch
and then you know how it got there.
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So that's why we say that it's it's
a two step above
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you know the rental store type papers.
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It's a Cadillac.
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And I'll tell you reason
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the way you can see this the most
I think is standing and maple floor
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with a with a generic term paper
like a lesser brand sandpaper
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where you have a consistent scratches
but then you see wild scratches in the
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in the in this in the sand if you put a
how would you like to it
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or look at it closely
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and I'm not talking about you hit it
you hit a nail somewhere I'm talking about
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you can just look through the sanding
and you can see microscopically
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that you'll have some air
sander marks in there.
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You know what I mean?
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And and today standard
I mean you know is that something you
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would want to get away with but you can't
get away with those those anymore today
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I mean, people are now looking at tabletop
finishes
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and you take a species like like a maple.
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You know what I mean?
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That that is very clear and bloody.
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You see right through it,
it matters even in your
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even in your poly
jobs on a on a on a our oak floor.
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And you see that it's a bad look.
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I mean, you work too
hard to have to get that look.
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Well, you know, I'm
glad you touched on the maple deal because
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with our paper, you know, you get really
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I mean, for key ingredients to paper
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sandpaper, you have the mineral,
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you have the paper,
and then you have the adhesive OK.
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But there's one more thing
that that they put on there.
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It's called size coating.
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OK, so when the mineral drops
on top of the glue,
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OK, we also add size coating to that.
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So that keeps the mineral from,
you know, diving down to deep
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and that's one of the the differences
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between bone, a paper
and other company's paper is
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we put a little extra size
coating on there.
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So just like we're talking about wood,
maple,
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maple is one of the toughest jobs to send
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because it's one of the toughest jobs
to remove deep scratches.
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You know,
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so if you're say using a 36 grit,
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you're going to get a 36
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grit aggressive
cut remove and finish whatever.
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But you're also going
to get an aggressive deep cut.
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So by putting on extra size coating,
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it allows you to use the paper
to get aggressive, to remove,
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you know, finishes, wax
whatever you can get aggressive.
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But the bone of paper won't leave
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as an aggressive depth of scratch.
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So those scratches will come out
a little bit easier with
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subsequent cuts.
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Since you're down going down that road,
can you also talk about fracturing
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sandpaper, fracturing to stay sharper
longer can you go down there?
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Yeah, explain that. You would.
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Wow, this is all about me today, huh?
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You're the sandpaper guru, man.
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00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:03,895
I mean, you know, I've seen the glasses
and this is up your alley.
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This is something.
429
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You feel good, huh?
430
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You feel good,
huh? Oh, well, you know what?
431
00:21:11,169 --> 00:21:13,438
I think maybe you should be sick
more often.
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I become part of the show.
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Yeah, and not just,
you know, comic sidekick, really.
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You know, quirky comic relief, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right, let's talk about fracturing.
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Well, go ahead.
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You'll change it all together.
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No way.
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Oh, no way.
442
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No, no, no, no.
443
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You you know the deal with me, man.
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I'm a counterpuncher.
445
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Yeah, I'm a counterpuncher.
446
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You got to lay it out, and then I can,
you know, hit back and have some fun
447
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interrupt you.
448
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Yeah, it would almost be like Jerry Lewis
being the good looking
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straight guy
and Dean Martin being a clown.
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But this I'm enjoying this.
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I don't know how to take that.
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So I'm a clown,
and you're the good looking guy.
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I think that's
what you were going with there. Well.
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Then go ahead.
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Now, and you don't even have to go there.
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I yeah, I wanted to take
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I want to take a little walk down there.
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OK, when you broke that down like that,
it didn't that didn't fit, right?
459
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So you're Dean.
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Get all the girls and I'm Jerry.
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I never said.
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That with the funny look and faces
and stuff.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know what's funny
is there's maybe five
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listeners out there
who know Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis.
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Ah, I hope so. That's crazy. And yeah.
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Yeah, you guys might have to Google that.
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Have you ever seen the movie
The King of Comedy?
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Scary Movie?
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That is a great, great, great movie.
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Wasn't that movie kind of spooky, though?
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It is, totally.
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If anybody hasn't seen it, it's Jerry
Lee Lewis.
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No, not Jerry Lee Lewis. Jerry Lewis.
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Jerry Lewis.
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I mean, yeah.
Jerry Lewis and Robert DeNiro.
477
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Yes. Robert, dear.
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Oh, my gosh. That's a good movie.
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And who would ever think
those two would be in a movie?
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Just think of what we say.
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Jerry Lewis and Robert DeNiro
in the same movie
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and it was an awesome movie.
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Who was the girl that Sandra Bernhardt.
484
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And I loved her, man.
485
00:23:29,941 --> 00:23:32,010
She was like,
I wonder what ever happened there.
486
00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:33,512
She was a great actors.
487
00:23:33,512 --> 00:23:35,881
She was insane. Yeah.
488
00:23:36,515 --> 00:23:37,883
That's what I liked about her.
489
00:23:37,883 --> 00:23:39,451
She was insane. Yeah.
490
00:23:39,451 --> 00:23:43,088
If you watched that movie,
I bet they didn't write a line for her.
491
00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:45,490
I bet she just adlibbed everything. Yeah,
492
00:23:46,525 --> 00:23:47,259
I actually think that
493
00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:50,395
was Jerry
Lewis, his best movie he's ever been in.
494
00:23:50,395 --> 00:23:53,498
And you have to
if you have not seen that movie,
495
00:23:53,498 --> 00:23:55,600
you got to
you got to watch King of Comedy.
496
00:23:56,101 --> 00:23:58,770
It holds up. Today is a phenomenal movie.
497
00:23:59,204 --> 00:24:01,373
OK, sorry. Yeah.
You know what? You're right.
498
00:24:01,373 --> 00:24:05,043
You could put that movie in in any
499
00:24:05,544 --> 00:24:08,747
any year, sixties,
seventies, eighties, right?
500
00:24:08,747 --> 00:24:11,216
You could do that any time.
501
00:24:11,216 --> 00:24:12,918
Especially now, because all movies suck.
502
00:24:12,918 --> 00:24:15,587
Now, movies are absolutely terrible.
503
00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:20,926
I just didn't see Top Gun, though.
504
00:24:20,926 --> 00:24:22,828
I did enjoy Top Gun.
505
00:24:22,828 --> 00:24:24,663
It was I was just going to ask.
506
00:24:24,663 --> 00:24:27,499
It's been coming up
in a lot of the schools.
507
00:24:27,499 --> 00:24:28,200
I've been doing.
508
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,270
Everybody absolutely loved Top Gun.
509
00:24:32,704 --> 00:24:34,806
Yeah, it was. That was a good movie.
510
00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:38,009
The dude just does not get any older.
511
00:24:38,009 --> 00:24:40,278
That's just, you know, it's crazy.
512
00:24:40,645 --> 00:24:43,381
He does not age now. What about Ice Man?
513
00:24:43,381 --> 00:24:45,183
I heard Ice Man
didn't look too good in that.
514
00:24:45,183 --> 00:24:48,186
No. He was he was a bit of a yeah.
515
00:24:48,186 --> 00:24:49,554
He was the only downside.
516
00:24:49,554 --> 00:24:52,491
He didn't really that
he didn't do anything for me.
517
00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:53,892
But the movie was good.
518
00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:54,526
He didn't age.
519
00:24:54,526 --> 00:24:57,562
Well, I heard no no. Right.
520
00:24:57,929 --> 00:24:58,830
Well, you're comparing him
521
00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:02,067
against against a guy that doesn't age,
so it's not really fair.
522
00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:05,704
Yeah. So, OK,
523
00:25:05,704 --> 00:25:06,571
I digress.
524
00:25:06,571 --> 00:25:09,975
It's fracturing. I think you talk to.
525
00:25:10,041 --> 00:25:12,210
You wanted me to talk about fracturing.
526
00:25:12,210 --> 00:25:12,844
Yeah.
527
00:25:13,712 --> 00:25:15,447
Yeah, OK.
528
00:25:17,115 --> 00:25:19,718
Well, the old days, you'd start out OK
529
00:25:19,718 --> 00:25:22,320
with a nice, sharp mineral
530
00:25:23,755 --> 00:25:27,392
and then as you sanded the floor,
that mineral would just start to get kind
531
00:25:27,392 --> 00:25:33,198
of dull and just dull to a certain point
where you're just kind of wasting time.
532
00:25:33,431 --> 00:25:35,634
You know, you take the paper
off, throw it away to whatever
533
00:25:38,570 --> 00:25:39,638
with the new
534
00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:43,141
machines and all that extra friction, OK?
535
00:25:43,475 --> 00:25:45,944
That old mineral
just dulled out too quick.
536
00:25:46,611 --> 00:25:48,880
We just burned them up too fast.
537
00:25:49,414 --> 00:25:52,284
The old mineral couldn't
keep up with the new mineral, so
538
00:25:52,684 --> 00:25:55,020
we had to go with some new minerals,
zirconia,
539
00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:57,155
ceramic,
540
00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:00,091
the aluminum oxide.
541
00:26:00,091 --> 00:26:02,327
OK, we had to go with new minerals.
542
00:26:02,327 --> 00:26:04,996
And the thing about a new mineral is
we start off
543
00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:08,099
with a nice sharp cutting edge, OK?
544
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:12,938
And then instead of getting dull,
it kind of fractures like that.
545
00:26:13,471 --> 00:26:17,208
So now I went from one cutting blade
to two cutting blades
546
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:20,211
and then it kind of fractures again.
547
00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:22,881
So now you go to four cutting blades
548
00:26:23,481 --> 00:26:27,152
so that fracturing keeps the paper
549
00:26:27,152 --> 00:26:32,357
sharper, longer, you know, and eventually
it can only fracture so many times.
550
00:26:32,357 --> 00:26:35,226
And then of course, you'll
start to get down and you're done with it.
551
00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:38,396
But that's the whole idea
552
00:26:38,396 --> 00:26:41,333
behind fracturing is
we needed a new mineral
553
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:46,171
that could keep up with the new
equipment and the amount of
554
00:26:48,273 --> 00:26:48,840
pressure.
555
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,242
And, and or as I was saying before.
556
00:26:52,944 --> 00:26:54,713
I don't know,
I stopped paying attention when you could.
557
00:26:54,713 --> 00:26:56,982
Yeah,
I could tell you kind of faded out there.
558
00:26:57,349 --> 00:26:58,650
The amount of friction.
559
00:26:58,650 --> 00:27:01,319
OK, like I said,
we've quadrupled the friction
560
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,124
so that fracturing that happens
from one cutting blade to two to four,
561
00:27:06,491 --> 00:27:10,729
that fracturing keeps the paper front,
it keeps the paper staying sharper longer.
562
00:27:11,162 --> 00:27:14,699
And then that's really the whole story
about fracturing.
563
00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:18,003
And I can tell you are just so happy
564
00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:21,473
that, well,
now you know about the fracturing deal.
565
00:27:22,207 --> 00:27:24,309
As you were saying,
and you mentioned a little bit of oxide.
566
00:27:24,309 --> 00:27:27,545
I was I was thinking to myself,
I think it was like the third hiding
567
00:27:27,545 --> 00:27:29,347
substance
known to man or something like that.
568
00:27:30,915 --> 00:27:32,283
Aluminum oxide was.
569
00:27:32,283 --> 00:27:34,452
Yeah, no idea.
570
00:27:34,452 --> 00:27:36,855
Do you know what the fourth hardest
substance is.
571
00:27:38,890 --> 00:27:41,459
I don't know what this Joe.
572
00:27:41,459 --> 00:27:43,695
This the
573
00:27:44,295 --> 00:27:46,197
mike in my arms.
574
00:27:46,197 --> 00:27:46,665
Yeah.
575
00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:53,905
OK, one thing you hear sometimes
Rob is OK.
576
00:27:53,938 --> 00:27:56,474
Sandpaper is more expensive
than it used to be.
577
00:27:56,474 --> 00:27:59,144
And I think there's
there's two sides to that as well.
578
00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:02,580
If you look at like our diamond this
579
00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:07,218
if you look at how long these sandpaper
last compared to what it was in the past,
580
00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:10,088
I mean, you could buy cheaper sandpaper
581
00:28:10,088 --> 00:28:13,291
and even today cheaper sandpaper,
but it doesn't last.
582
00:28:13,425 --> 00:28:15,660
It's not cutting. You're not productive.
583
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:18,930
So maybe you can kind of talk
about our diamond bracelet.
584
00:28:18,963 --> 00:28:23,868
I went when diamond I was still in sport
when Diamond came out
585
00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:27,472
when when Broner brought
Diamond to the table and
586
00:28:28,773 --> 00:28:32,210
I remember I forget who it was
or product management.
587
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:36,581
But they said, yeah, you know,
when you're out a gym when you're doing
588
00:28:36,581 --> 00:28:40,418
a screen of code on a gym,
you can take three of these diamond disks
589
00:28:41,686 --> 00:28:46,057
and put them on like a peace
sign on a double stacked room pad.
590
00:28:46,424 --> 00:28:48,426
And you can cut about 3000 feet,
591
00:28:49,094 --> 00:28:51,696
three disks, 3000 feet.
592
00:28:51,696 --> 00:28:54,699
Now, anybody in the sport world who's done
screening
593
00:28:54,699 --> 00:28:58,503
Coats knows that a screen might go
594
00:28:59,904 --> 00:29:01,840
three or 400 feet inside.
595
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,076
A maroon pad will only go 350 feet.
596
00:29:05,343 --> 00:29:10,815
I so half of the pain in the neck
about Ricoh and gyms and everything
597
00:29:11,116 --> 00:29:17,021
is constantly flipping and laying out
and you know, cases in cases of screens
598
00:29:17,889 --> 00:29:21,593
and now we've got three diamonds
that are going to go 3000 feet.
599
00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:22,761
And I was like, that's
600
00:29:24,195 --> 00:29:26,431
don't lie, don't lie to me, ok?
601
00:29:26,464 --> 00:29:27,632
Anyways,
602
00:29:27,632 --> 00:29:29,167
bum and I take care of
603
00:29:29,167 --> 00:29:32,403
this little Catholic school down the road
and they get a 6000 foot gym.
604
00:29:33,071 --> 00:29:35,573
So about three months
after they told me about this,
605
00:29:36,841 --> 00:29:38,576
I said To bomb, I go, Oh,
606
00:29:38,576 --> 00:29:41,312
they said,
These things are going to do 3000 feet.
607
00:29:42,013 --> 00:29:45,049
We literally started
in the middle of that gym
608
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,386
he went 3000 feet one way.
609
00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:50,121
I went 3000 feet the other way.
610
00:29:50,121 --> 00:29:51,856
So we had a nice
611
00:29:52,157 --> 00:29:54,292
right nice, perfect look
612
00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:57,562
nice, consistent look.
613
00:29:57,562 --> 00:30:00,131
That's why I like
starting in the middle down each side
614
00:30:01,432 --> 00:30:05,003
at about 1500 feet
we stopped and just vacuum
615
00:30:05,003 --> 00:30:07,772
the pads out, a little bit of dust
backing the pads out
616
00:30:08,907 --> 00:30:11,042
and they literally cut
to the end of the wall
617
00:30:11,643 --> 00:30:14,112
and we were both
like, I can't believe this
618
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:16,748
I could not
619
00:30:16,748 --> 00:30:20,084
believe the cut that we were getting
with those diamonds,
620
00:30:20,952 --> 00:30:24,055
getting some dust,
getting a really good etching.
621
00:30:24,055 --> 00:30:24,856
To the finish.
622
00:30:24,856 --> 00:30:27,559
I mean, completely de gloss in the finish.
623
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,562
We knew we were getting a really good cut
624
00:30:30,562 --> 00:30:32,463
and it was,
625
00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:34,032
it was amazing.
626
00:30:34,032 --> 00:30:36,868
I could not believe it. I mean,
627
00:30:37,135 --> 00:30:40,705
I was like, I remember calling the PM guy
that it told me about him.
628
00:30:40,705 --> 00:30:41,406
I'm like,
629
00:30:42,307 --> 00:30:44,909
Dude, I thought you were a liar.
630
00:30:44,909 --> 00:30:47,078
But the kicker, the best part of that job,
631
00:30:48,413 --> 00:30:51,482
we put down a coat, a 350
632
00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:55,486
and we came back the next day
I just want to take a look at the job.
633
00:30:55,486 --> 00:30:57,555
We came back the next day
634
00:30:57,555 --> 00:30:59,724
and the custodian said to me,
You can't go in there.
635
00:30:59,724 --> 00:31:00,425
It's still wet
636
00:31:02,093 --> 00:31:03,061
now. Now
637
00:31:03,061 --> 00:31:05,496
we had dropped that coat around 4:00,
638
00:31:06,764 --> 00:31:09,634
so this is 6 hours later
and it was perfect.
639
00:31:09,634 --> 00:31:11,870
Drying conditions, no humidity, nothing.
640
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:14,505
I remember looking at boom going,
641
00:31:14,505 --> 00:31:17,609
If this job is still wet,
we're we're in a lot of trouble.
642
00:31:18,443 --> 00:31:20,945
We're screwed here, right?
643
00:31:20,945 --> 00:31:22,981
It wasn't it was dry as a bone.
644
00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:25,383
Now, you know, gloss
finish and everything.
645
00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:26,684
Yeah, it's always going to look good.
646
00:31:26,684 --> 00:31:28,987
But I had never
647
00:31:28,987 --> 00:31:32,257
I had never seen a gloss
finish job looks so good.
648
00:31:32,257 --> 00:31:34,592
We've used the 180 diamonds.
649
00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:39,397
But what I think was, was we weren't
removing a lot of the old finish.
650
00:31:39,397 --> 00:31:43,201
We were just really cleaning it,
you know, and getting it ready
651
00:31:43,201 --> 00:31:44,269
to accept another coat.
652
00:31:44,269 --> 00:31:47,906
So, yeah, it just gave us
so much more build, I think.
653
00:31:48,106 --> 00:31:51,743
And that's why this thing look stunning.
654
00:31:52,343 --> 00:31:54,879
You probably also had dramatically less
green light
655
00:31:55,546 --> 00:31:57,782
in that we would without using.
656
00:31:57,815 --> 00:31:59,918
Screen, right? Exactly.
657
00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:04,489
It was like I said, we just didn't,
you know, sometimes using screens,
658
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:08,192
you know, that coats kind of soaks in
and sometimes you look at it,
659
00:32:08,192 --> 00:32:09,594
you go, Yeah,
I got to put another coat on.
660
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:11,429
This looks a little thirsty.
661
00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:14,332
I was amazed at what these diamonds do.
662
00:32:15,333 --> 00:32:15,533
That's
663
00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:18,670
when I had all the respect for Jim
contractors.
664
00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:19,304
Let me see.
665
00:32:19,304 --> 00:32:21,606
Let me think about this for man
let's use Maple.
666
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,211
Let's put massive lights over top
of everything and let's put gloss on it.
667
00:32:27,478 --> 00:32:29,380
And let's use this shiniest finish.
668
00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:31,816
We can find yeah.
669
00:32:31,816 --> 00:32:34,919
When we first came out with the
the diamonds, you know,
670
00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:37,322
as you know, they went to the floor, Jim
contractors first.
671
00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:40,258
And so when I said, let me sample some
672
00:32:40,425 --> 00:32:43,294
the only get me like six
and then what am I gonna do with these?
673
00:32:44,128 --> 00:32:46,197
You know, when I get out of jobs
674
00:32:46,197 --> 00:32:48,967
and I use them and I, you know,
I knew I was all I had.
675
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:52,837
So then I'm taken to the next job
and the next job and the next job
676
00:32:52,837 --> 00:32:54,339
and I'll man this.
677
00:32:54,339 --> 00:32:57,909
And then again, my brothers, you know,
like, everything goes to them first.
678
00:32:58,142 --> 00:33:02,413
If I want to get some feedback, I want
and they just fell in love with me
679
00:33:02,413 --> 00:33:03,214
as their go to.
680
00:33:03,214 --> 00:33:06,751
So I mean for sport guys and screening
coats, it's,
681
00:33:07,185 --> 00:33:08,720
you know, an absolute no brainer.
682
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,056
I mean, the trick is,
is to clean the floor with prep.
683
00:33:12,557 --> 00:33:12,824
Yeah.
684
00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:16,260
No bond breakers, nothing to gum
those things up.
685
00:33:17,095 --> 00:33:18,596
They're amazing.
686
00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:19,564
Yeah. Same thing.
687
00:33:19,564 --> 00:33:22,533
If you use that same thing,
you're going to use them in between coats.
688
00:33:24,635 --> 00:33:26,471
You want to make sure the floor is
good and dry.
689
00:33:26,471 --> 00:33:30,708
You know, you don't want it to be
a little tacky, but in between coats.
690
00:33:31,275 --> 00:33:34,779
You know, the other weird part about those
diamonds, I mean, you you felt them.
691
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,082
You know, when you feel of a new screen
692
00:33:38,082 --> 00:33:40,852
or a new piece of sandpaper,
you feel it's sharp, right?
693
00:33:41,552 --> 00:33:43,921
And then you can feel kind of
when it dies out
694
00:33:43,921 --> 00:33:46,591
the diamonds to me, never feel different.
695
00:33:46,891 --> 00:33:48,993
Yeah. They start acting different.
696
00:33:48,993 --> 00:33:53,131
But you can't I can't pick up a diamond to
go, oh, yeah, this is used
697
00:33:53,731 --> 00:33:56,834
compared to one that
now this is really isn't used at all.
698
00:33:57,602 --> 00:34:01,539
So the key to and that's
where another thing bomb started to do
699
00:34:01,539 --> 00:34:07,078
was use the diamonds on his inner code
abrasion, you know, especially when he saw
700
00:34:07,078 --> 00:34:09,781
how much build was left
701
00:34:10,381 --> 00:34:13,718
by using those rather
than abrading with something else.
702
00:34:14,218 --> 00:34:18,856
And so he started doing those
the diamond like
703
00:34:18,923 --> 00:34:22,693
he went to 244 abrasion on water jobs
704
00:34:23,394 --> 00:34:26,964
and you know, the depth was unbelievable.
705
00:34:27,632 --> 00:34:30,334
But the scratch pattern
that was left behind,
706
00:34:31,102 --> 00:34:34,906
well there was nothing there you know,
but the adhesion was fantastic.
707
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,942
The thing that he had to do though,
708
00:34:37,942 --> 00:34:40,645
was he had to write exactly
like you were talking about.
709
00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:44,515
Would you send sanding belts
you would write, you know.
710
00:34:45,383 --> 00:34:47,085
400 feet.
711
00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:48,653
Yeah, 300 feet.
712
00:34:48,653 --> 00:34:52,390
You know, knowing that each diamond was
going to give him about a thousand feet.
713
00:34:53,057 --> 00:34:53,791
Yeah.
714
00:34:54,192 --> 00:34:58,463
You know, we've said before that, you
know, one thing about bone is as we have
715
00:34:59,464 --> 00:35:00,398
our product, you
716
00:35:00,398 --> 00:35:04,302
been to work with each other
and our philosophy is
717
00:35:04,602 --> 00:35:07,071
everything you do is you complement
what you're going to do next.
718
00:35:07,672 --> 00:35:11,642
So when you start out with the sandpaper
and the abrasion that you're not taking
719
00:35:11,642 --> 00:35:16,814
off all kinds of products off the floor,
you just put on, you get a better build.
720
00:35:17,415 --> 00:35:20,384
You don't get the you don't get this
this green light that we get.
721
00:35:20,384 --> 00:35:21,786
We're using screens
722
00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:25,056
and you go to the stain, you're getting
a lot of mileage out of this thing.
723
00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:29,093
So this sandpaper,
the abrasives, the machines,
724
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:33,364
the all the way down the line,
the filler, everything is designed to work
725
00:35:33,364 --> 00:35:34,532
as a system.
726
00:35:34,565 --> 00:35:37,168
And a lot of times
when I'm looking at doing comparisons,
727
00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:41,372
we're almost overengineered
in a lot of categories,
728
00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:46,110
certainly in finishes and adhesives
and a lot of our products.
729
00:35:46,110 --> 00:35:49,947
So, you know, a lot of us
German technology and Sia
730
00:35:49,947 --> 00:35:53,117
is is makes a phenomenal product.
731
00:35:53,117 --> 00:35:57,722
I know there are they in the aerospace
industry as well and that everything's.
732
00:35:58,122 --> 00:36:01,826
There in NASA, BMW
I mean they're just you know, they're
733
00:36:02,326 --> 00:36:03,528
they're part of the Bosch family.
734
00:36:03,528 --> 00:36:05,029
So they're all over the place.
735
00:36:06,297 --> 00:36:08,499
You know, before we could
736
00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:10,735
cut the show off
737
00:36:11,903 --> 00:36:12,570
I know.
738
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:14,872
Like, you're me.
739
00:36:14,872 --> 00:36:15,840
You like me.
740
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,074
What are
741
00:36:19,577 --> 00:36:20,178
you're used to?
742
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:22,313
The edges were used to bolt the paper
on, right?
743
00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:23,514
Yeah.
744
00:36:24,282 --> 00:36:25,550
Have you had to go now?
745
00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:27,451
You've
been running bone equipment for a while.
746
00:36:27,451 --> 00:36:29,687
Have you had to go back and bolt
a piece of paper?
747
00:36:30,288 --> 00:36:31,055
Yeah.
748
00:36:31,556 --> 00:36:34,859
Carrying that wrench around your back
pocket to do that.
749
00:36:35,259 --> 00:36:39,797
And rather than just flip it off,
it has no comparison.
750
00:36:40,531 --> 00:36:45,069
It just if you're if you carry
that wrench around on my dad's job,
751
00:36:46,938 --> 00:36:48,940
you were going to be sent out
to clean the truck.
752
00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:54,378
That wrench was never supposed
to leave that machine ever.
753
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:56,080
No kidding.
754
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,150
Oh, oh,
there is a couple of pet peeves, man.
755
00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:00,751
And that was one of them.
756
00:37:00,751 --> 00:37:06,390
But a few years ago, I told Van, I go,
Hey, your mother wants me to sand bedroom.
757
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:07,592
She wants to make an office.
758
00:37:07,592 --> 00:37:09,694
Can you drop the equipment off?
759
00:37:09,694 --> 00:37:13,598
And, you know, I made a couple of jump
cuts and I jumped on the edger
760
00:37:14,131 --> 00:37:16,834
and I had to take that wrench
and bolt paper on.
761
00:37:17,702 --> 00:37:22,240
Wayne, you should have heard
me crying and complaining
762
00:37:23,574 --> 00:37:23,841
like a
763
00:37:23,841 --> 00:37:27,612
little sissy boy, like I had done that all
my life.
764
00:37:28,012 --> 00:37:30,514
Never, never thought anything about it.
765
00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:35,086
But then when we made the switch,
when I started running the bone equipment
766
00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:39,957
and that hook and loop paper
that just tears off and slaps on,
767
00:37:41,125 --> 00:37:43,794
oh, my God, I person I know
768
00:37:43,794 --> 00:37:47,531
it doesn't sound like much
but I know that you've done it.
769
00:37:47,531 --> 00:37:50,835
So what did you think?
770
00:37:50,835 --> 00:37:55,339
Well, what I'm thinking right now is,
so if I carry that wrench in my back
771
00:37:55,339 --> 00:37:58,175
pocket, your dad will tell me
go sit out in the truck.
772
00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:01,112
Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
773
00:38:01,712 --> 00:38:04,048
You were never told to go
sit in the truck.
774
00:38:04,048 --> 00:38:06,250
You were told to go clean the truck.
775
00:38:07,852 --> 00:38:10,154
And it wasn't just
where the equipment was, too.
776
00:38:10,154 --> 00:38:11,422
It was the cab of the truck.
777
00:38:11,422 --> 00:38:13,324
When you were towed,
sent out to clean the truck,
778
00:38:14,659 --> 00:38:16,827
you wanted the whole truck clean.
779
00:38:18,696 --> 00:38:20,798
I would have beat your dad up
780
00:38:25,403 --> 00:38:26,470
you sure?
781
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:28,639
He was a kind of powerful guy.
782
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,042
You saw that picture of him
I put out for Father's Day?
783
00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:33,210
On Instagram, right? I mean.
784
00:38:33,210 --> 00:38:35,980
I beat up guys twice his age, OK?
785
00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:41,719
All right.
786
00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:44,388
So let's let's break down quickly
787
00:38:44,388 --> 00:38:46,490
our paper,
the different colors of our paper.
788
00:38:47,925 --> 00:38:50,094
The black, the blue, the green.
789
00:38:50,094 --> 00:38:52,730
All right, well,
the black paper, silicon carbide.
790
00:38:53,497 --> 00:38:54,298
All right.
791
00:38:54,432 --> 00:38:56,767
Now, even though it's
kind of the older mineral
792
00:38:57,568 --> 00:38:59,937
we still like using the silicone carbide
793
00:39:01,906 --> 00:39:03,574
as a final cut.
794
00:39:03,574 --> 00:39:06,210
Like in all the schools
we've been showing people,
795
00:39:06,644 --> 00:39:11,215
the silicon carbide,
a 120 on a multi disk just leaves
796
00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:15,853
just such a beautiful, burnished floor
and not burnished
797
00:39:15,853 --> 00:39:19,790
in the bad way, burnished in the good way
where we close off the green,
798
00:39:19,824 --> 00:39:24,028
give us a little more flow and level time
with water based sewage and everything.
799
00:39:24,528 --> 00:39:27,598
Just a completely different
look than you get with a screen.
800
00:39:27,898 --> 00:39:28,399
It's just
801
00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:31,535
more forgiving with the sealer.
802
00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:35,172
I know I keep going back to Maple,
but this is saying
803
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,775
where I would use our maple floor
as my last cut every time.
804
00:39:38,609 --> 00:39:39,243
Soft.
805
00:39:39,243 --> 00:39:41,412
Yes, it's a nice soft cut.
806
00:39:41,412 --> 00:39:43,881
Absolutely. Yep.
807
00:39:43,881 --> 00:39:45,483
All right. Blue.
808
00:39:45,483 --> 00:39:46,984
The blue paper,
809
00:39:47,251 --> 00:39:48,152
that's a blend.
810
00:39:48,152 --> 00:39:51,589
Now some of the papers, OK,
you can't just use
811
00:39:52,123 --> 00:39:55,292
straight ceramic or straight zirconia
and anything.
812
00:39:55,292 --> 00:39:56,994
It's a little aggressive.
813
00:39:56,994 --> 00:40:01,065
So our blue is is a mixture of silicone
carbide and zirconia
814
00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:05,102
so we get a good cut.
815
00:40:05,302 --> 00:40:06,504
A nice cut.
816
00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:09,840
All right. And it's not too aggressive.
817
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,543
This is one of the papers you know,
818
00:40:12,543 --> 00:40:17,448
I used to say this until I really started
doing a lot of our schools down in Jersey
819
00:40:17,448 --> 00:40:21,385
where if you just wanted
to pick one paper color for your crew,
820
00:40:21,819 --> 00:40:24,422
start to finish, I always said blue.
821
00:40:25,322 --> 00:40:29,894
And then for the past couple of years,
everybody in New Jersey
822
00:40:29,894 --> 00:40:34,265
and New York, Metro it's just like green
is completely taken over.
823
00:40:34,498 --> 00:40:36,967
OK, now the green paper, that's
824
00:40:37,301 --> 00:40:39,303
aluminum oxide and ceramic.
825
00:40:40,037 --> 00:40:45,009
So the ceramic is even going to last
a little bit longer than the zirconia.
826
00:40:46,043 --> 00:40:48,813
And this
is where this is where you just don't
827
00:40:48,813 --> 00:40:53,884
look at the price of a belt price per belt
is not the deal that you're looking for.
828
00:40:53,884 --> 00:40:57,988
If you want to judge
how good the sandpaper is or
829
00:40:58,022 --> 00:41:02,526
how good it is, how you want to use it,
you look at how much the belt cost,
830
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,996
depending on how far it goes.
831
00:41:06,897 --> 00:41:09,300
When I was in the sport world
832
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:12,236
and we won every battle hands down
833
00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:15,940
cost, wasn't it
that well, that's where we would tell you
834
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,876
we would go in, tell let's work because,
835
00:41:19,276 --> 00:41:21,912
you know, you got a 14,000 foot gym.
836
00:41:21,912 --> 00:41:24,648
So it's really easy to go in there,
837
00:41:24,648 --> 00:41:26,750
tell them you load paper, run,
838
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:29,019
you load whatever you use
and see how far you go.
839
00:41:29,954 --> 00:41:32,456
Now load mine on and it was usually green.
840
00:41:32,923 --> 00:41:35,326
Load my paper on there, see how far you go
841
00:41:35,793 --> 00:41:38,462
and then do the square foot price test.
842
00:41:39,663 --> 00:41:42,166
We won every single time.
843
00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:44,435
And that's one reason
why I wanted to do this.
844
00:41:44,435 --> 00:41:46,770
This show is we talk about cost.
845
00:41:47,471 --> 00:41:50,674
It's the same thing as I and I, you know,
my world is adhesive,
846
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:52,009
so I have to relate it to that.
847
00:41:52,009 --> 00:41:54,044
You don't look at the cost of the pail.
848
00:41:54,044 --> 00:41:56,547
You look at how many square feet
you get out of the pail, right?
849
00:41:57,014 --> 00:41:58,782
When you determine cost.
850
00:41:58,782 --> 00:42:00,851
And we look at sandpaper at the counter.
851
00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:01,785
Yeah.
852
00:42:01,785 --> 00:42:06,223
You know, if one is 30% cheaper, but
it doesn't go near nowhere near as far.
853
00:42:06,624 --> 00:42:08,492
Well, is that really a bargain?
854
00:42:08,492 --> 00:42:10,895
And if it's not cutting it
if you're using the paper
855
00:42:10,895 --> 00:42:14,265
because you know, yeah,
starting to not cut is good.
856
00:42:14,265 --> 00:42:16,200
But, you know,
857
00:42:16,534 --> 00:42:20,304
I want to go farther with the belt,
then it's not a value right?
858
00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:23,407
Right. Yes, that's it. That's perfect.
859
00:42:23,407 --> 00:42:26,310
You just can't
look at the price of the belt.
860
00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:29,747
It's how far that belt goes
compared to the price.
861
00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:31,382
That's what you're looking at.
862
00:42:31,382 --> 00:42:33,250
And it's you're right.
863
00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:35,352
It's the same thing with the adhesive.
864
00:42:35,352 --> 00:42:38,255
The other paper that is just insane.
865
00:42:38,923 --> 00:42:40,291
Is platinum.
866
00:42:40,291 --> 00:42:41,759
Have you ever used the platinum?
867
00:42:41,759 --> 00:42:43,460
I mean, needed to use it?
868
00:42:44,428 --> 00:42:46,764
I was still a territory manager
when it came out
869
00:42:47,665 --> 00:42:51,135
and Holy Smokes is that this is your,
870
00:42:52,202 --> 00:42:56,407
you know, like your break
the glass, get out the fire machine.
871
00:42:56,974 --> 00:42:57,641
That's it.
872
00:42:57,641 --> 00:43:03,180
So I tell everybody the class is this
paper is break glass in case of emergency.
873
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,181
Yeah.
874
00:43:05,249 --> 00:43:09,086
You know, back in the nineties, Mirage
came out with like the first aluminum
875
00:43:09,086 --> 00:43:14,959
oxide finished floors and they put a ton
of aluminum in these floors.
876
00:43:15,025 --> 00:43:19,730
OK, that's actually why one of the reasons
that the prep system was invented.
877
00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:22,600
So because you couldn't screen
those rings.
878
00:43:22,666 --> 00:43:23,400
Yeah.
879
00:43:23,701 --> 00:43:28,072
So we had to come up with the prep
so we could soften that, clean it, soften
880
00:43:28,072 --> 00:43:32,276
the finish, and then we could have braided
these aluminum oxide was so hard.
881
00:43:32,843 --> 00:43:38,582
Well, now these aluminum oxide floors,
you know, it's been 20 years.
882
00:43:39,583 --> 00:43:39,783
We're
883
00:43:39,783 --> 00:43:42,286
starting to see a lot of these floors
need to be sanded.
884
00:43:42,953 --> 00:43:46,156
And I'm seeing it in every single class
885
00:43:46,957 --> 00:43:51,128
where everybody is like Oh my God,
this stuff is they can't believe it.
886
00:43:51,295 --> 00:43:54,632
You know, you put the you've
probably set it up, you put the drum.
887
00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:57,301
They almost think there's something wrong
with your paper or your machine.
888
00:43:57,301 --> 00:44:00,270
It's just putting little scratches
in the floor.
889
00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:02,906
It's not taking anything away.
890
00:44:02,906 --> 00:44:05,542
That's because it's like the third
hardest substance known to man.
891
00:44:06,110 --> 00:44:08,679
And the fur and the fourth
892
00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:11,281
what was the fourth?
893
00:44:11,281 --> 00:44:13,550
The four ways Wayne Swan's.
894
00:44:13,817 --> 00:44:15,753
Exactly. Yeah.
895
00:44:15,753 --> 00:44:18,188
So remember we used to tell people
896
00:44:18,188 --> 00:44:22,092
before the platinum, we used to tell
people back off from the pressure.
897
00:44:22,126 --> 00:44:23,193
You had
898
00:44:24,528 --> 00:44:26,597
put an 80 grit on there, run around,
899
00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:29,633
scratch all the aluminum bits off
900
00:44:29,633 --> 00:44:33,971
and go back with a 40 or 36 or whatever
901
00:44:34,238 --> 00:44:38,475
and now you can sand the floor so you're
you know, you had to make two bests.
902
00:44:39,443 --> 00:44:41,912
Now this study, you just put this on,
903
00:44:43,147 --> 00:44:46,784
this stuff cuts through that,
this cuts through like butter. Yep.
904
00:44:47,551 --> 00:44:51,955
So one, 11 reason for doing this show too
is, you know, as expectations,
905
00:44:52,489 --> 00:44:54,458
if you buy in black paper
and you're going to use it
906
00:44:54,458 --> 00:44:58,295
for your first pass on aluminum oxide,
it's a wrong paper, right?
907
00:44:58,362 --> 00:44:58,529
Yeah.
908
00:44:58,729 --> 00:45:02,132
Yeah, it's every paper has its place yet.
909
00:45:02,132 --> 00:45:04,401
What? I want to go green
all the way through. Some people do.
910
00:45:04,835 --> 00:45:07,404
They're going to use the power grid next
it doesn't matter.
911
00:45:08,072 --> 00:45:10,974
But some people are going to want to start
with an aggressive paper and work
912
00:45:10,974 --> 00:45:16,113
their way down to a less aggressive paper
or the black is perfectly great.
913
00:45:16,113 --> 00:45:18,182
Candidate for that
when you're doing your final cuts.
914
00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:22,920
So just managing where your expectations
look at the price of the
915
00:45:23,087 --> 00:45:25,723
the the amount of square foot
you get out of the belt.
916
00:45:26,356 --> 00:45:31,028
And and also the quality of the belts,
the backing, the whole nine yards.
917
00:45:31,028 --> 00:45:33,997
The sizing is
you said I mean, all that plays into it.
918
00:45:34,465 --> 00:45:39,036
You know, it just so you can go out there,
you can get a cheap sample everywhere.
919
00:45:39,069 --> 00:45:41,805
None of those things are taken
into consideration,
920
00:45:41,805 --> 00:45:43,741
you know,
and then you get what you pay for.
921
00:45:43,741 --> 00:45:46,543
But it's funny thing about this
wood flooring industry is,
922
00:45:46,877 --> 00:45:50,147
like you said, everything you do
should set you up for the next step.
923
00:45:50,614 --> 00:45:52,216
You ought to have to
go. You want to go backwards
924
00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:56,253
it's great to get together, my brothers,
once in a while.
925
00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:58,088
I'll I'll talk about that
a little bit later.
926
00:45:58,088 --> 00:46:01,191
But on the next show
but I was talking my brother
927
00:46:01,191 --> 00:46:03,660
John, we were talking about how hardy
he used to be back in the day
928
00:46:03,894 --> 00:46:06,230
because we were one we Hansan
it was 60, right?
929
00:46:06,930 --> 00:46:11,401
I mean, we did so for miles and miles and,
you know, we edge the floor.
930
00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:14,371
Then we would hand seriously cigaret
we wouldn't even think of.
931
00:46:14,371 --> 00:46:17,374
I mean, I come to the job,
so why don't we use those things?
932
00:46:17,374 --> 00:46:19,710
Here we go. Get out of here.
933
00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:21,078
It's not how it's done.
934
00:46:21,078 --> 00:46:23,113
Everything had to be hard,
you know what I mean?
935
00:46:23,113 --> 00:46:25,983
You know that you ever get that feeling
when you're standing a floor
936
00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:29,253
and a third of the way through it,
you're seeing something you don't like.
937
00:46:29,987 --> 00:46:31,922
Like in the old days, it was chatter.
938
00:46:31,922 --> 00:46:33,190
Like we get a little bit way through it.
939
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:35,893
Yeah, I think I remember those days.
I think I see a little bit of chatter.
940
00:46:36,093 --> 00:46:36,560
Yeah.
941
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,364
And I'd say, thank God I'm using satin
because there's a hide all that word in.
942
00:46:41,098 --> 00:46:41,765
Yeah.
943
00:46:41,765 --> 00:46:45,302
So I mean, those,
those those those concerns, man.
944
00:46:45,969 --> 00:46:46,203
You know,
945
00:46:46,203 --> 00:46:48,005
this industry is a lot easier
and used to be
946
00:46:48,005 --> 00:46:50,040
we're going to talk about that
in our next show
947
00:46:50,908 --> 00:46:53,877
about the way the industry changed
in getting into the industry right now.
948
00:46:53,877 --> 00:46:56,280
So we'll save that for the next episode.
949
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:59,216
However, let's wrap this up, Rob.
950
00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:00,951
Thank you very much, Rob.
951
00:47:00,951 --> 00:47:04,021
I love I you know, what I give you
952
00:47:04,021 --> 00:47:07,858
a hard time is as friends do,
but I love them.
953
00:47:07,891 --> 00:47:13,530
Our dogs, you have me and I, it's crazy
when when I have a question you made
954
00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:16,633
when I go to Guy,
when the other ten guys aren't around.
955
00:47:16,667 --> 00:47:19,303
OK, this. Wait.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on.
956
00:47:20,904 --> 00:47:23,440
I'm glad you just said that, OK?
957
00:47:24,308 --> 00:47:27,911
Because my buddy, my old partner,
my best friend in the world, Pete
958
00:47:27,911 --> 00:47:32,182
Sherman, he's been listening to the show
all right.
959
00:47:32,883 --> 00:47:37,354
And him and I were at my brother's kid's
graduation party last week,
960
00:47:37,988 --> 00:47:41,725
and he was talking about different shows
and how funny they were and,
961
00:47:41,758 --> 00:47:43,160
you know, the love.
962
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,127
And he goes
963
00:47:44,828 --> 00:47:45,395
this way.
964
00:47:45,395 --> 00:47:46,897
No, he's
965
00:47:47,631 --> 00:47:49,333
he's kind of mean to you.
966
00:47:49,333 --> 00:47:50,400
Oh, wow.
967
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,871
Nice and I say you're really think thinks
I go, really?
968
00:47:53,871 --> 00:47:56,206
It's just kind of, you know, joke and back
and forth and everything.
969
00:47:56,206 --> 00:47:57,541
He goes, no, I.
970
00:47:57,541 --> 00:47:59,343
I think he's really mean. Diego.
971
00:47:59,343 --> 00:48:02,012
Well,
you know, in the beginning of the show,
972
00:48:02,012 --> 00:48:04,314
you know, the first. Episode where.
973
00:48:04,314 --> 00:48:06,917
The first year I said everybody thought
974
00:48:06,917 --> 00:48:10,320
I was the mean guy, but I said,
I completely agree with you, Pete.
975
00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:15,225
He's he's definitely been,
you know, first strike now.
976
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:17,694
So, listen,
977
00:48:18,762 --> 00:48:19,229
if some
978
00:48:19,229 --> 00:48:22,266
day some guy walks up to you
and he's got the food and glasses
979
00:48:22,266 --> 00:48:24,468
and just and bald and just Dexia,
980
00:48:25,302 --> 00:48:27,671
I just want you to know that that was him.
981
00:48:27,871 --> 00:48:30,240
Yeah. Well,
so he's your best friend in the world.
982
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,108
You say?
983
00:48:31,174 --> 00:48:33,210
He's one of my best friends in the world.
984
00:48:33,210 --> 00:48:35,012
Now, that's not what you said.
985
00:48:35,012 --> 00:48:37,214
You said he was your best friend. OK.
986
00:48:37,681 --> 00:48:39,383
Let me ask you, what's his name?
987
00:48:39,383 --> 00:48:42,052
Again? Pete. Pete Sherman. Yeah.
988
00:48:42,686 --> 00:48:45,522
Did you see the article
about us, about the band.
989
00:48:46,356 --> 00:48:48,425
Now? OK, I was like.
990
00:48:48,425 --> 00:48:49,293
All right.
991
00:48:49,459 --> 00:48:52,496
Your best friend, Pete Sherman, did he
992
00:48:53,063 --> 00:48:55,232
do you get your custom
made ice cream scooper
993
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,735
for 75 bucks
994
00:48:59,236 --> 00:49:00,570
my visa?
995
00:49:00,737 --> 00:49:02,172
No. Yeah.
996
00:49:02,172 --> 00:49:04,574
So there you go. No, Pete.
997
00:49:04,608 --> 00:49:06,743
Yeah, he did. All right.
998
00:49:06,743 --> 00:49:09,313
But I will tell you what he gave me for
Christmas one year.
999
00:49:09,813 --> 00:49:15,519
Well, he went through and found
every old picture because our fan was.
1000
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:18,255
You should do a lot together on vacations.
1001
00:49:18,355 --> 00:49:20,490
And, you know, kids and all this.
1002
00:49:20,490 --> 00:49:22,426
Well, he went through and put together
1003
00:49:24,294 --> 00:49:26,029
pictures of him and I working
1004
00:49:26,029 --> 00:49:31,501
since, you know, since high school
all the way up to married and kids.
1005
00:49:31,501 --> 00:49:35,472
And so as you're flipping through this,
this is your life book.
1006
00:49:36,139 --> 00:49:40,610
All I was doing as I'm flipping through
this was thinking, you know, I,
1007
00:49:40,844 --> 00:49:45,816
I think I got him a, you know,
subscription to Mad magazine or something.
1008
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:47,918
Yeah. This year.
1009
00:49:47,918 --> 00:49:51,121
And this guy's got Pauline in tears,
you know, so
1010
00:49:51,121 --> 00:49:54,224
I'm like,
all right, you you definitely went.
1011
00:49:54,224 --> 00:49:58,195
But it was definitely no ice cream scoop.
1012
00:49:58,261 --> 00:49:59,196
Yeah, right.
1013
00:49:59,196 --> 00:50:01,131
You can't eat that,
1014
00:50:01,298 --> 00:50:01,898
right?
1015
00:50:03,767 --> 00:50:04,634
All right.
1016
00:50:04,634 --> 00:50:06,203
Well, thank you, Rob, very much.
1017
00:50:06,203 --> 00:50:09,740
And this has been another episode
of On the Floor, Wayne of Rock.
1018
00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:12,209
Please stay tuned for another episode.