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Hello and welcome to another episode
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of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
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I'm Wayne
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Highlander, National Sales
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Manager for Bona Adhesives.
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And I'm Rob Johnson from Bona Training.
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How we doing, Rob?
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Really good.
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But how are you doing today?
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I'm doing fantastic.
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Did you get that picture I sent you?
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Which one?
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The one of my bathroom.
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Of all the.
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The the color swatches.
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Yes.
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Yeah, that's a nightmare.
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That's my girl.
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Man. That.
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That's too many options.
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My girl.
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It's just a bathroom, right?
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It's a small bathroom, too.
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I mean, it's small.
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Yeah.
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There's, like, 37
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different color samples.
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There's 30, to be exact, 30 samples.
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And I said,
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I think half of them are white
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and the other half are like beige.
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Yeah.
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So I walked into that.
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And I know I have mentioned on the
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show before that
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I had
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eight swatches on the wall
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one time in the bedroom.
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That they were there for almost a year.
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And every once in a while
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I'd see Pauline,
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you know, just standing in the room
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staring at it
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in the morning,
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in the afternoon, at night,
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just so she could see
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where the colors are going to go.
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And then the other day,
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I walked into the bathroom
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and I said, Oh, here we go.
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Be painting in ten months, ten months.
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I go set you set your watch to this one.
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And.
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So I just had to send you the pictures
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just so you.
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Crack me up and I saw you.
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Believe me, that
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this is just part of my life.
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Mm hmm.
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A matter of fact,
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she has so many swatches on the walls,
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it's.
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It's taken up a good chunk of the wall, I
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would think, you know, just
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more.
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Watch 30 more and cover the whole place.
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Yeah, and you're done.
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You have to paint.
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All right.
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We got a lot to touch on today,
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so we'll kind of go quick.
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We are going to talk about myths
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in the hardwood flooring industry.
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A lot of these are things
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that during the course of our career
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we thought was a thing
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or we realized or found out that
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not so much
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when you get it in your mind
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that it's a certain way.
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Do you remember
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Nirvana
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Smells like Teen Spirit,
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never mind of the Nevermind album,
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which by the way,
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that album changed the course of music.
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It on a in a heartbeat on a dime.
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It took away that every hair band's
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mojo and left me in the dust.
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The track probably killed hair bands,
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that grunge music that started it.
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I think it absolutely did.
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Yeah, it made those other
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banjos, hair bands seem silly,
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right?
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They all just started
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pumping out their greatest hits albums.
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It's over after that thing. No.
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So we'll do a greatest hits
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and maybe a Christmas album. Yeah.
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But when that song first came out
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and the song starts up
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and that heavy guitar and every day
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and there we are now.
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Entertain us, I thought was.
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Here we are now in containers
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for the longest time.
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I thought that was the lyrics.
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So sometimes you get stuff in your head
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that you think is a certain way
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and not so much.
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So maybe blinded by the light.
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What?
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Blinded by the light.
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The song. Blinded by the light.
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You know what the words are to that?
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No.
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Blinded by the light.
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Well, revved.
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Up like a deuce wanderer in the night.
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It's revved up like a deuce.
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Not what everybody thought it was.
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I'll be darned.
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Yeah, I never exactly.
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It blurred the lines
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a little bit there, too.
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That's right.
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Right.
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Cause everybody
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heard that song the first time
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go, oh, my God, what?
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They just say, you can't say that.
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Well, backed up like a deuce.
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You know what's this is a new one.
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This is. This is a first.
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You and I both sang on the show.
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That's right.
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Well, I think. Did it.
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Do you remember?
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Led Zeppelin, Stairway to Heaven.
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I thought was
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there is a y'know down the road
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maybe last night by saying
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and their lyrics are really as as
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I went on down the road
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but everybody
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it sounds like
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there's a y'know down the road
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there's a I knew it was probably probably
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15 years.
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I thought that was the lyrics.
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So anyhow,
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so, so sometimes everything you do
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and what you think is a.
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Pretty good Led Zeppelin, you,
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you can really get that high.
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That's, you know.
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That's tough.
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The thing for us, I don't like that I.
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Try to coach people
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that karaoke night.
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Helping it pick out their songs
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and on a song
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like that,
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you know, I'd say
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you really got to be able to hit that
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high note. Yeah.
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It's like,
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stay away from anything David Lee
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Roth does. You can't.
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Well, you can't do David Lee Roth.
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There are certain
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there are certain people
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you cannot cover.
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Exactly.
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Yeah. Yeah, another one.
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Nobody can cover George Jones.
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Nobody.
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Nobody can cover George Jones.
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That's just the way it is.
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And you write about David Lee Roth.
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Another one.
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I don't know how you
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I don't know how you follow that.
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But real quick,
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before we get on to our subject,
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I'm listening to a band right now,
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I reckon Love Man,
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and the band is called
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Midland, Amazon, Mary and Midland
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the Country Band.
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But it's a it's kind of a throwback.
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they've got a new
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album called On the Rocks.
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There's not a bad song on the album.
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It's as
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well as what I think is best
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album to come out in a long time in
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country music.
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And and I don't like today's
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country music.
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What's the name of it? Midland.
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Yeah. Am I in?
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Excuse me. Midland.
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And the album
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is called On the Rocks on the.
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I can't get past it, man.
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I keep
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every time I get on the car,
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I listen to it.
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It's radio crazy.
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It is kind of like a mixture of both.
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But it's not that bro
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country music
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or that, you know, whatever.
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What are they doing with
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country music
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now that it's on the air
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for the most part?
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Boy, I don't want to sound
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like an old geezer, but
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when I switch a station
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because I think,
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you know,
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what is it doing on the pop station?
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But I'm on a country station.
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Yeah. It was one I remember.
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God rest his soul.
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Good old Charlie Daniels, man.
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He did not like that.
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He did not like that kind of
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country music
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where you can't tell
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if it's country music or not.
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Well, country music
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finally got what they've been wanting
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since.
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Probably Hank Williams
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picked up a guitar.
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Country music has been struggling
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to find a younger audience
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from 50 years ago
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because old people don't buy albums,
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they don't go to concerts,
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they don't buy t shirts.
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So they've been trying to get a younger
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audience, younger
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and younger, younger audience.
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And with Whatsername came out,
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I mean that the crossover,
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what's the name of
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an album read or where there was a
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Oh, the girl.
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The girl was
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always writing about ex-boyfriends.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Taylor Swift.
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It was Swift. Yeah.
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Taylor Swift,
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which in early stuff was very country.
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And she's completely switched.
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Right.
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Completely off topic. So let's go.
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So myths that we thought
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were, were a thing
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and then we realized over
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time is not the case going flawed myths.
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Here we go. Yeah.
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You got anything.
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More solid, the better
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to have anything.
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More solid, the better.
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What the hell you mean by that?
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If a finish is high and solids,
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it's got to be a better finish.
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Oh, see?
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See, that was not very well communicated.
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I was thinking you were saying more songs
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like Solid with Boring versus Engineer.
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So you're saying you're finished?
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Yes.
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Oh, well, that's a whole different
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paint job.
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Okay.
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The more solid is, the better.
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Explain yourself, please.
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It's not how many solids
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are in a finish, it's
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the quality of the solids.
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Thank you for saying that.
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It's the quality of the resins.
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It's the quality of the solids.
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A satin finish is going to have
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more solid standard gloss finish
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because satin has flattening agents in it
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that do nothing for strength.
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But it's a solid.
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So that's part of the makeup.
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So do not get in that whole
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deal of the higher
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the solid content the better the finish.
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Not true
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because solid white, solid bird feathers,
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you know what I mean?
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So it's
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I could throw anything in there, right?
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It has bugged me for the longest time.
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I'm glad you said that, because
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it is so misleading
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that it's
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bugged me more than I can tell you.
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So I'm glad to hear you say that.
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That is absolutely in fact,
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it is the quality of the resins
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in the solids versus the amount, as
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is otherwise, whatever.
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We put any solids in there just put more.
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And you know, you would think
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that it's a ridiculous conceptual thing.
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I mean,
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and that is why
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the entire world has been chasing
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traffic and traffic.
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HD Yep, it's not the solid content,
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it's the quality of the solids
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and the resins that we use, the polymers,
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all of that.
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That's, that's what matters.
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Also hardness, by the way,
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do you have that down on your list?
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People think it's a harder
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the harder the finish, the better.
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Absolutely not the case, too,
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I can tell you manufacture.
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Oh, gosh, back in a
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C twenties, back in the eighties,
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came out with a product.
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It said the hardest days.
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It was
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it was hard
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as hard as can be supremely hard finished
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and and failed because
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it didn't have all the other properties
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that you needed to finish.
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There's a lot of the
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a lot of
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the ways
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you you you measure finish
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like maybe ten different metrics
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of how you determine
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what what makes up the finished
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that being one of them.
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And but there are many,
365
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many other other products
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that are that are extremely important.
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So that is also one that is just not
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gets it.
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Well, it's harder
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that's not it's not what people think
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it is.
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Yeah.
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Because something I learned an
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old timer, the guy,
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Mike Sundell, I'll
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say his name
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hopefully Mike is listening to the show.
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Just one of the best guys
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I ever met in my life in the industry.
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And and he was my dad's
381
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he was one of my dad's first salesmen.
382
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So I met him when we were still doing
383
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bowling alleys.
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And like I said, he invented the t bar,
385
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taught me how to pull the T bar and
386
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he was talking to me,
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he said, Ah, what I want you to do,
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I want you to go home,
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take a piece of cellophane,
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put some polyurethane on one side
391
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and some water based on the other,
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and let the two films dry.
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He said, Then
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I want you to take the polyurethane and
395
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try to pull it, stretch it,
396
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and then do the water bass.
397
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And this is the whole key to water bass.
398
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When you stretch the water
399
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bass, you could stretch it
400
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to ten, 12, 15, whatever,
401
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and it would go back,
402
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okay, it will go back.
403
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Polyurethane,
404
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like you said, hardness, hardness equals
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brittle boom.
406
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It just snaps.
407
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It doesn't stretch, doesn't do anything.
408
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Yeah. So,
409
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yeah, right. Ha ha.
410
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Just because the finish is super hard.
411
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Yeah.
412
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Does not mean that it's
413
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going to have good wear capabilities.
414
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Not the answer. Yeah.
415
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All right, you know what?
416
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You were so good. Go again.
417
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No need to a braid.
418
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I'm sorry.
419
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Boy, did I screw that one up.
420
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Hello?
421
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Need to a braid?
422
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All coats? Yeah.
423
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And I.
424
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I really thought
425
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that I wasn't even going to use this one,
426
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but I had a crew come in last week.
427
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Um,
428
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and I'm going to
429
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tell you what they said,
430
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and I got to talking a little bit
431
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about this crew.
432
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I'm going to
433
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jump off track here
434
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because it was like a day at the U.N.
435
00:13:06,552 --> 00:13:07,920
with that crew
436
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when I was talking to him
437
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about hot coating finishes. Right.
438
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How you can't hack code oil and you can't
439
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and you cannot code the water.
440
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The 48 hour hacker window.
441
00:13:22,401 --> 00:13:23,569
Well, this
442
00:13:23,569 --> 00:13:25,437
this guy is like, well, what do you
443
00:13:25,437 --> 00:13:26,772
what are you talking about?
444
00:13:26,772 --> 00:13:28,841
So I really started to
445
00:13:28,841 --> 00:13:31,143
talk to the crew about it.
446
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Now, the owner had stepped outside,
447
00:13:33,479 --> 00:13:33,746
you know,
448
00:13:33,746 --> 00:13:36,182
he had to make a call or something.
449
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And two of his workers are scream ing to
450
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get in here.
451
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You got to hear this.
452
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I was the same guy.
453
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I mean,
454
00:13:46,025 --> 00:13:48,460
I used water bass for years and years
455
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until literally one day
456
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I was just sitting in the truck
457
00:13:52,832 --> 00:13:54,500
having lunch with Pete, and I started to
458
00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,367
read the can
459
00:13:56,368 --> 00:13:57,403
and it said, no need
460
00:13:57,403 --> 00:13:58,771
to upgrade
461
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as long as you're under 8 hours.
462
00:14:01,907 --> 00:14:03,242
And I was like, What?
463
00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:05,678
And and I said to Peter, go read this.
464
00:14:05,711 --> 00:14:06,612
Is this right?
465
00:14:06,612 --> 00:14:08,480
What I said to him,
466
00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,149
What do you think that means?
467
00:14:10,149 --> 00:14:11,116
Yeah,
468
00:14:11,250 --> 00:14:12,785
surely it doesn't mean
469
00:14:12,785 --> 00:14:14,520
we don't have to bump it.
470
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,921
Because you have to buff
471
00:14:15,921 --> 00:14:16,956
in between codes,
472
00:14:16,956 --> 00:14:18,691
whether it's oil or water or anything.
473
00:14:18,691 --> 00:14:19,391
Well,
474
00:14:19,792 --> 00:14:22,261
they finally ran out, pulled the owner in
475
00:14:22,828 --> 00:14:25,030
and you know, this guy it
476
00:14:25,965 --> 00:14:28,634
they didn't realize that they had and
477
00:14:28,801 --> 00:14:30,970
and was one of those crews that
478
00:14:30,970 --> 00:14:32,738
he learned it from his uncle
479
00:14:32,738 --> 00:14:34,206
this is the way his uncle did it.
480
00:14:34,206 --> 00:14:36,942
So this is the way they did it.
481
00:14:36,942 --> 00:14:39,211
But, you know, they this crew also works
482
00:14:39,211 --> 00:14:40,279
on some brake jobs,
483
00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:42,615
you know, three or 4000 feet.
484
00:14:42,615 --> 00:14:44,250
They're buffing in between every code,
485
00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:45,751
clean and buff and everything.
486
00:14:45,751 --> 00:14:47,753
Well, you know, they were just
487
00:14:48,687 --> 00:14:50,022
they were just blown away.
488
00:14:50,022 --> 00:14:52,258
So even though I always thought,
489
00:14:52,258 --> 00:14:53,792
oh, that's an old myth and everybody
490
00:14:53,792 --> 00:14:54,293
knows it
491
00:14:55,294 --> 00:14:56,128
now, it's kind of
492
00:14:56,128 --> 00:14:57,930
why I threw it up there.
493
00:14:57,930 --> 00:14:59,965
Think about the labor savings, man.
494
00:15:00,466 --> 00:15:02,101
If you asked me, Mike,
495
00:15:02,101 --> 00:15:03,435
what I hated to do the worst
496
00:15:03,435 --> 00:15:04,103
in this industry.
497
00:15:04,103 --> 00:15:04,803
If I could take away
498
00:15:04,803 --> 00:15:06,138
one thing that we have to do,
499
00:15:06,138 --> 00:15:07,806
it'd be vacuuming.
500
00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:08,774
I mean, you
501
00:15:08,774 --> 00:15:11,310
vacuum in vacuum and vacuum and vacuum.
502
00:15:11,310 --> 00:15:13,178
So you have to break the floor.
503
00:15:13,178 --> 00:15:15,848
And to cut out that step
504
00:15:15,848 --> 00:15:17,583
because you're getting a chemical bond
505
00:15:17,583 --> 00:15:19,919
is huge, man. Good.
506
00:15:20,352 --> 00:15:20,686
All right.
507
00:15:20,686 --> 00:15:21,420
Hey, this crew
508
00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:24,990
I had, I'm going to give a shout out
509
00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:28,127
to the guys from above and beyond floors.
510
00:15:29,161 --> 00:15:31,363
Trenton, New Jersey,
511
00:15:31,363 --> 00:15:32,231
there are a couple of guys
512
00:15:32,231 --> 00:15:34,366
that came from Poland.
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00:15:34,366 --> 00:15:36,001
One guy came from Kazakhstan.
514
00:15:36,001 --> 00:15:37,736
Another guy came from Mexico.
515
00:15:37,736 --> 00:15:39,838
So like I said, it was like
516
00:15:39,838 --> 00:15:42,741
it was like working in the U.N..
517
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I mean,
518
00:15:44,009 --> 00:15:45,210
I've said it before
519
00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:48,047
and nobody should have as much fun
520
00:15:48,047 --> 00:15:50,316
at school as we did at that school.
521
00:15:50,316 --> 00:15:51,550
I mean, just laughing
522
00:15:52,618 --> 00:15:53,452
the whole time.
523
00:15:53,452 --> 00:15:54,787
So we're almost done.
524
00:15:54,787 --> 00:15:56,021
We're probably halfway
525
00:15:56,021 --> 00:15:58,257
through the second day
526
00:15:58,257 --> 00:15:59,491
and the owner says to me,
527
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Rob, what are you beer,
528
00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:03,662
you know, beer or whiskey, man?
529
00:16:03,662 --> 00:16:05,197
So I said, You know,
530
00:16:05,197 --> 00:16:06,131
I really don't drink.
531
00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:07,900
I go once in a while,
532
00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:09,601
I'll have a Sambuca on the rocks.
533
00:16:09,601 --> 00:16:13,172
That's is like Sambuca.
534
00:16:13,172 --> 00:16:13,739
What's that guy?
535
00:16:13,739 --> 00:16:14,640
It's kind of I don't know.
536
00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,376
It's like a little more like a
537
00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:19,345
licorice type taste.
538
00:16:19,345 --> 00:16:22,047
I said, you know, I like it.
539
00:16:22,047 --> 00:16:22,414
Boom.
540
00:16:22,414 --> 00:16:24,483
The guy disappears.
541
00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:26,552
He comes back
542
00:16:26,552 --> 00:16:28,988
about 2 hours later.
543
00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:30,990
Oh, Fredo was helping Jeff for Fredo.
544
00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,926
He was also it was his crew, right?
545
00:16:34,293 --> 00:16:38,330
His guys, they brought Jeff
546
00:16:39,098 --> 00:16:41,333
gift wrap bottle of whiskey.
547
00:16:41,333 --> 00:16:42,134
Wow.
548
00:16:42,134 --> 00:16:45,537
They bought me gift wrap bottles in Buka,
549
00:16:45,537 --> 00:16:46,605
but it was wrapped to.
550
00:16:47,573 --> 00:16:48,407
And I.
551
00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:51,176
Get a nice gift I like that was nice.
552
00:16:51,810 --> 00:16:53,145
Anybody come to the schools?
553
00:16:53,145 --> 00:16:53,946
I love gifts.
554
00:16:53,946 --> 00:16:55,080
You keep giving me gifts.
555
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,616
I'll take a gift any time. Great.
556
00:16:57,616 --> 00:16:59,852
So then he pulls out another bottle
557
00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,422
of Rosé Sambuca.
558
00:17:03,422 --> 00:17:06,058
I never even heard of it.
559
00:17:06,058 --> 00:17:08,060
He goes, Oh, you know, I got this for us.
560
00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:10,763
Blah, blah, blah. Eric Great.
561
00:17:10,763 --> 00:17:11,363
Next thing you know,
562
00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:12,965
he pulls out a bunch of plastic shot
563
00:17:12,965 --> 00:17:16,068
glasses in the middle of the school.
564
00:17:16,068 --> 00:17:18,103
He starts porn shots for everybody.
565
00:17:18,103 --> 00:17:20,639
So I was like, All right, the
566
00:17:22,474 --> 00:17:25,044
and so I thought, you know, some, like,
567
00:17:25,077 --> 00:17:26,545
I we really can't do that.
568
00:17:26,545 --> 00:17:29,581
And he goes, please, he goes in Poland,
569
00:17:30,949 --> 00:17:31,350
you know,
570
00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:33,152
this is how we show respect
571
00:17:33,152 --> 00:17:35,187
to our teachers.
572
00:17:35,187 --> 00:17:37,389
And he goes, this is you know,
573
00:17:37,389 --> 00:17:38,590
this is how we do it in Poland.
574
00:17:38,590 --> 00:17:40,259
So, you know,
575
00:17:40,259 --> 00:17:41,860
I said, okay, you know what?
576
00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:42,861
It's you know,
577
00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:46,098
one shot's not going to kill anybody.
578
00:17:46,465 --> 00:17:47,332
You know.
579
00:17:47,966 --> 00:17:49,034
We all have a shot
580
00:17:49,034 --> 00:17:50,102
and we get back to work.
581
00:17:50,102 --> 00:17:53,906
And I'm thinking, you know, don't run
582
00:17:53,906 --> 00:17:55,808
heavy machinery. Mhm.
583
00:17:55,808 --> 00:17:56,942
Oh next thing you know he comes
584
00:17:56,942 --> 00:17:59,178
walking around with another shot.
585
00:17:59,178 --> 00:18:01,580
I'm like oh all right wait a minute.
586
00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:02,347
You know,
587
00:18:04,016 --> 00:18:05,751
really this this'll be
588
00:18:05,751 --> 00:18:08,787
the end.
589
00:18:08,787 --> 00:18:10,589
They want to finish the bottle.
590
00:18:10,589 --> 00:18:11,423
So I was like, All right,
591
00:18:11,423 --> 00:18:13,358
we got to turn the machines off
592
00:18:13,358 --> 00:18:14,660
and we'll finish the rest of the day
593
00:18:14,660 --> 00:18:16,161
doing PowerPoint and testing
594
00:18:16,161 --> 00:18:16,962
and things like that.
595
00:18:16,962 --> 00:18:19,665
How about that? Okay.
596
00:18:19,665 --> 00:18:23,202
The craziest class I had ever seen.
597
00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:25,237
They had never pulled a T-bar.
598
00:18:25,237 --> 00:18:26,238
Okay?
599
00:18:26,405 --> 00:18:27,072
When I was showing them
600
00:18:27,072 --> 00:18:28,140
how to pull a T-bar.
601
00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:29,942
You want to talk about
602
00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:32,578
guys like a duck to water?
603
00:18:33,445 --> 00:18:34,813
I was like, okay,
604
00:18:34,813 --> 00:18:35,981
I was calling them liars.
605
00:18:35,981 --> 00:18:36,515
There's there's
606
00:18:36,515 --> 00:18:39,051
no way you've never pulled the T-bar.
607
00:18:39,051 --> 00:18:39,485
Well.
608
00:18:39,751 --> 00:18:41,453
Or, you know, whether the alcohol
609
00:18:41,453 --> 00:18:43,489
made me a better instructor, maybe it.
610
00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:43,989
Wasn't
611
00:18:45,057 --> 00:18:45,858
me.
612
00:18:46,859 --> 00:18:48,560
But the that like
613
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:48,861
I said,
614
00:18:48,861 --> 00:18:51,630
it was like a shot out of the U.N.
615
00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:54,299
funniest bunch of guys, you know, here
616
00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:55,200
and all that.
617
00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,869
You know, the other thing about this job,
618
00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:59,671
my job is I do train a lot of guys from
619
00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:03,976
all over the world, you know, and man,
620
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:04,810
when you start
621
00:19:04,810 --> 00:19:06,979
and I don't want to get political here,
622
00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:07,980
but when you start hearing
623
00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:09,114
what really goes on in
624
00:19:09,114 --> 00:19:11,517
socialist countries
625
00:19:11,617 --> 00:19:13,352
Russia, Cuba, Poland,
626
00:19:13,352 --> 00:19:16,688
Kazakhstan, Ukraine, wow.
627
00:19:16,922 --> 00:19:18,457
You people
628
00:19:18,457 --> 00:19:20,325
people really need to hear these stories
629
00:19:20,325 --> 00:19:21,827
because it's just incredible
630
00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,929
what those people go through
631
00:19:23,929 --> 00:19:26,231
and what they go through to get here to,
632
00:19:26,231 --> 00:19:30,002
you know, get away from that and mayhem.
633
00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:31,803
We're watching a movie right
634
00:19:31,803 --> 00:19:32,538
now, my wife and I.
635
00:19:32,538 --> 00:19:33,939
It takes place in a different country.
636
00:19:33,939 --> 00:19:35,507
And holy smokes,
637
00:19:35,507 --> 00:19:36,842
I told you guys that everybody
638
00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:38,310
should have to watch this movie
639
00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:40,212
that never complains about what
640
00:19:40,212 --> 00:19:41,713
we have here, so.
641
00:19:41,713 --> 00:19:42,481
All right,
642
00:19:42,481 --> 00:19:44,917
we got a bunch more to get through,
643
00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:46,018
so go ahead. I like your.
644
00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:47,319
I like your list here, man.
645
00:19:47,319 --> 00:19:48,420
So why don't you just keep going?
646
00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:49,488
Oh, this was one
647
00:19:49,488 --> 00:19:51,924
my grandfather used to say, Robby,
648
00:19:51,924 --> 00:19:54,126
the worse it stinks, the better it is.
649
00:19:54,126 --> 00:19:56,428
Yeah. Talking about finish.
650
00:19:56,428 --> 00:19:58,297
And it was that same day
651
00:19:58,297 --> 00:19:59,765
I remember the guy
652
00:19:59,765 --> 00:20:00,732
looked like he was born
653
00:20:00,732 --> 00:20:02,000
milk out on the lanes
654
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,902
and there was water based
655
00:20:03,902 --> 00:20:05,537
finish had no smell at all.
656
00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:06,939
And I'm thinking it's going to be the
657
00:20:06,939 --> 00:20:08,640
worst finish in the world if
658
00:20:09,875 --> 00:20:10,242
yeah.
659
00:20:10,342 --> 00:20:10,943
We all say.
660
00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:12,711
Well, it was the best.
661
00:20:12,711 --> 00:20:13,312
Yep.
662
00:20:14,346 --> 00:20:16,114
Finishes
663
00:20:17,382 --> 00:20:17,950
What do you call it?
664
00:20:17,950 --> 00:20:20,252
A wood filler.
665
00:20:20,252 --> 00:20:21,286
You know, that was old thing.
666
00:20:21,286 --> 00:20:23,522
I mean, it had had a stink.
667
00:20:23,522 --> 00:20:25,224
It had to have all them chemicals in it
668
00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:27,593
to be effective.
669
00:20:27,593 --> 00:20:30,229
All right, good stuff.
670
00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:31,463
Well, hell, keep going.
671
00:20:31,463 --> 00:20:33,098
I like your list deeper.
672
00:20:33,098 --> 00:20:34,733
The scratch is best
673
00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:36,902
for inner cold abrasion.
674
00:20:36,902 --> 00:20:38,270
And I guess
675
00:20:39,104 --> 00:20:40,272
this has got to be one
676
00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:42,040
for real old timers like you.
677
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:42,874
When I
678
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:45,043
remember we used to do
679
00:20:45,043 --> 00:20:47,045
in a code abrasion with
680
00:20:47,045 --> 00:20:48,313
a used 80 grits, right?
681
00:20:48,313 --> 00:20:50,482
Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah.
682
00:20:50,482 --> 00:20:51,450
And the gouges
683
00:20:51,450 --> 00:20:53,986
that we were putting in those floors to
684
00:20:53,986 --> 00:20:54,620
get that
685
00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:57,256
and get another code on their guys.
686
00:20:57,623 --> 00:21:00,659
And what I found out and you know,
687
00:21:00,659 --> 00:21:02,527
everybody knows I work for basic coatings
688
00:21:02,527 --> 00:21:04,062
and I work for Boehner.
689
00:21:04,062 --> 00:21:06,965
And when you hear the same thing, I think
690
00:21:07,766 --> 00:21:09,601
when I hear the same exact thing
691
00:21:09,601 --> 00:21:10,802
from both labs,
692
00:21:11,737 --> 00:21:12,271
you know, like, all
693
00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:13,872
right, this has got to be the,
694
00:21:13,872 --> 00:21:15,440
you know, the real one.
695
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,510
And both labs
696
00:21:18,510 --> 00:21:19,511
said the same thing,
697
00:21:19,511 --> 00:21:21,613
that it's not the depth of the scratch,
698
00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:24,182
it's actually how many scratches
699
00:21:24,716 --> 00:21:25,584
you're going to put in.
700
00:21:25,584 --> 00:21:27,286
The more scratches you get in there
701
00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:29,521
for, the better your adhesion.
702
00:21:29,521 --> 00:21:30,789
So, you know,
703
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:33,825
my room pad is going to give you a
704
00:21:33,825 --> 00:21:35,160
you know, it's a 320 grit,
705
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,261
so you're going to get that
706
00:21:36,261 --> 00:21:37,296
many more scratches
707
00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:38,797
than you would ever use
708
00:21:38,797 --> 00:21:41,333
on a used 120 screen or whatever. Yeah.
709
00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:44,102
And it's not the depth of the scratch
710
00:21:44,102 --> 00:21:45,771
that holds the finish.
711
00:21:45,771 --> 00:21:48,240
It's the number of scratches.
712
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,442
Yeah, it's funny.
713
00:21:50,442 --> 00:21:52,110
As soon as you said that,
714
00:21:52,110 --> 00:21:54,680
it brought back memories of,
715
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,348
you know, having my back to use screens
716
00:21:56,348 --> 00:21:58,450
and kind of feeling them, well,
717
00:21:58,717 --> 00:22:01,019
I'll use this, this, this used enough
718
00:22:01,586 --> 00:22:02,821
or not having a new one
719
00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:04,056
and going out into the garage
720
00:22:04,056 --> 00:22:05,924
and burning it on the concrete
721
00:22:05,924 --> 00:22:07,459
to get some of that aggressiveness
722
00:22:07,459 --> 00:22:09,594
up like a 150 screen.
723
00:22:09,594 --> 00:22:10,929
So I could trust it.
724
00:22:10,929 --> 00:22:11,463
And then we start
725
00:22:11,463 --> 00:22:13,532
in the back of the house, scared to death
726
00:22:13,532 --> 00:22:15,100
that it was going to leave, you know,
727
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,035
hey, any any scratches in the floor.
728
00:22:17,035 --> 00:22:18,303
So, I mean, I don't miss those days.
729
00:22:19,738 --> 00:22:21,006
That's what I love about the.
730
00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:23,108
The maroon pads and our diamonds.
731
00:22:23,842 --> 00:22:24,509
Yeah.
732
00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:25,944
Man. Water bass finish.
733
00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:27,679
Take two of those 240 diamonds.
734
00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:30,415
Put in a double stacked room pad
735
00:22:30,415 --> 00:22:31,950
and you will just
736
00:22:31,950 --> 00:22:35,220
barely removes any depth to finish.
737
00:22:35,587 --> 00:22:39,157
Yeah, but when I did that, Jim,
738
00:22:39,157 --> 00:22:41,026
a couple of years ago,
739
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,595
that was the exact system we used
740
00:22:45,831 --> 00:22:48,300
the maroon pads with the diamonds
741
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:52,170
on, you know, diamonds underneath.
742
00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:54,573
We laid down a CO two 350
743
00:22:54,573 --> 00:22:57,409
and we came back in the next day
744
00:22:57,409 --> 00:23:00,045
and the custodian goes, It's not dry.
745
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:02,781
Still not dry.
746
00:23:02,781 --> 00:23:05,550
And I looked at BOM and I go,
747
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:07,953
If this isn't dry,
748
00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:09,388
we're in so much trouble.
749
00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:10,322
Because I think we had laid
750
00:23:10,322 --> 00:23:12,057
the code around 3:00.
751
00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:12,891
So
752
00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:15,660
what when you looked at that floor,
753
00:23:15,660 --> 00:23:17,462
it looked like we had just laid the code.
754
00:23:17,462 --> 00:23:19,598
It looked that what.
755
00:23:19,598 --> 00:23:20,432
Right.
756
00:23:20,532 --> 00:23:21,466
And it was
757
00:23:21,466 --> 00:23:22,467
it was dry as is on
758
00:23:22,467 --> 00:23:23,468
because the guy
759
00:23:23,602 --> 00:23:24,469
lost his breath
760
00:23:24,469 --> 00:23:26,838
when I took a step out on the floor.
761
00:23:26,838 --> 00:23:28,340
Yeah, I go, no, she's dry.
762
00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:30,242
And he's like, no way. I go, Yep, dry.
763
00:23:30,242 --> 00:23:32,544
Isabel walked right out on it. Wow.
764
00:23:32,778 --> 00:23:35,280
So, I mean, compared to the old days
765
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,149
when we're like you said when you were
766
00:23:39,117 --> 00:23:41,820
you were doubling up 150 screen.
767
00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:43,188
So it wouldn't
768
00:23:43,321 --> 00:23:44,990
the amazing what we can now.
769
00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:46,291
Oh man is
770
00:23:46,291 --> 00:23:46,892
when you
771
00:23:46,892 --> 00:23:48,326
look at the advances in the industry
772
00:23:48,326 --> 00:23:51,363
that's surely is one of the one of the
773
00:23:51,363 --> 00:23:52,764
most notable ones
774
00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:53,198
the inner cold
775
00:23:53,198 --> 00:23:54,966
abrasion systems out there.
776
00:23:54,966 --> 00:23:55,367
Yeah.
777
00:23:55,367 --> 00:23:57,636
So and the diamonds game changer.
778
00:23:58,236 --> 00:24:00,338
Oh, yeah, yeah.
779
00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:02,474
All right, what else you got.
780
00:24:02,908 --> 00:24:03,108
Too?
781
00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:04,843
Part epoxy is the best
782
00:24:04,843 --> 00:24:10,148
for repairs and molding.
783
00:24:10,148 --> 00:24:13,018
I really through this one for you.
784
00:24:13,018 --> 00:24:14,653
Explain that one. No.
785
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:15,086
Well, you're
786
00:24:15,086 --> 00:24:17,122
the national adhesives manager.
787
00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:18,390
I thought you'd have a blast
788
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:21,359
with this one.
789
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,060
Well.
790
00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:24,729
Or a two part epoxy is best.
791
00:24:24,763 --> 00:24:27,799
If the moves if anything moves,
792
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,734
the epoxy shatters.
793
00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:36,241
And we have no bond.
794
00:24:36,241 --> 00:24:38,143
No. Wow.
795
00:24:38,143 --> 00:24:39,077
To to borrow
796
00:24:39,077 --> 00:24:39,611
two bucks
797
00:24:39,611 --> 00:24:41,680
is sometimes the best for repairs
798
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,849
and molding.
799
00:24:43,849 --> 00:24:46,151
So I'm talking about wind shakes
800
00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:47,786
and stuff like that,
801
00:24:47,786 --> 00:24:48,386
you know what I mean?
802
00:24:48,386 --> 00:24:48,854
You're line
803
00:24:48,854 --> 00:24:50,155
cracks in the boards
804
00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:52,390
and that kind of stuff or, or,
805
00:24:53,692 --> 00:24:55,594
you know, that type of repair.
806
00:24:55,594 --> 00:24:56,928
For a board. Repair.
807
00:24:56,928 --> 00:24:57,462
Yeah.
808
00:24:57,462 --> 00:24:59,464
For a quick you know, for a quick one.
809
00:24:59,464 --> 00:25:00,832
Okay. Yeah.
810
00:25:00,832 --> 00:25:03,034
So I still like
811
00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:04,836
I think there's a place for them
812
00:25:04,836 --> 00:25:06,571
and I always have
813
00:25:06,571 --> 00:25:07,172
have a,
814
00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:09,207
you know, a party kid in my, in my band.
815
00:25:09,608 --> 00:25:10,542
We're doing repairs
816
00:25:10,542 --> 00:25:12,244
for just that, for like a wind shape.
817
00:25:12,244 --> 00:25:12,644
Okay.
818
00:25:12,644 --> 00:25:14,412
So I think what I should have said on
819
00:25:14,412 --> 00:25:15,780
this was
820
00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:18,416
when I said repairs, I meant patching.
821
00:25:18,416 --> 00:25:19,818
Okay. Okay.
822
00:25:19,818 --> 00:25:20,285
Hey, listen,
823
00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:21,853
no need to be embarrassed,
824
00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:25,524
so we'll go on to the next.
825
00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,425
Yeah, no, I see what you're saying.
826
00:25:27,425 --> 00:25:29,594
Yeah, for for repairs. Absolutely.
827
00:25:29,828 --> 00:25:31,963
Especially you want that floor
828
00:25:31,963 --> 00:25:33,632
to have the long Asian properties
829
00:25:33,632 --> 00:25:35,834
of, of the, of adhesive. Right.
830
00:25:35,834 --> 00:25:37,369
You don't want them so, so
831
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:39,437
tight that they won't move
832
00:25:39,437 --> 00:25:40,472
it and give it all.
833
00:25:40,472 --> 00:25:41,940
You got to have some of that location.
834
00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:42,507
So yeah.
835
00:25:42,507 --> 00:25:45,010
And that in that regard angry.
836
00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:46,945
So that's what I meant by that.
837
00:25:46,945 --> 00:25:47,646
Okay.
838
00:25:47,913 --> 00:25:50,315
You're not going to use the old days.
839
00:25:50,315 --> 00:25:52,517
We used epoxy to patch everything. Yeah.
840
00:25:52,584 --> 00:25:53,251
That bad.
841
00:25:53,251 --> 00:25:55,353
That's the last thing you want to do.
842
00:25:55,353 --> 00:25:56,021
Yeah.
843
00:25:57,155 --> 00:25:57,522
All right.
844
00:25:57,522 --> 00:25:59,257
You and I need to have better production
845
00:25:59,257 --> 00:26:00,625
meetings, I think.
846
00:26:00,625 --> 00:26:06,197
Or at least a production meeting,
847
00:26:06,197 --> 00:26:06,831
you know?
848
00:26:06,831 --> 00:26:08,033
You know, things are tough
849
00:26:08,033 --> 00:26:09,534
if we're using all your notes.
850
00:26:09,534 --> 00:26:10,902
But go ahead.
851
00:26:11,169 --> 00:26:13,071
Go to the next
852
00:26:13,204 --> 00:26:15,373
little low cost tools, bent blade,
853
00:26:15,373 --> 00:26:16,641
save money.
854
00:26:17,375 --> 00:26:19,110
I have to say, I never did
855
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:20,245
think that way.
856
00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:22,314
That was never moment that I thought,
857
00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:23,782
oh, I always thought.
858
00:26:24,883 --> 00:26:27,185
That that was so me.
859
00:26:27,185 --> 00:26:32,857
Really, I'm the opposite to a fault.
860
00:26:32,857 --> 00:26:33,992
I think it what.
861
00:26:33,992 --> 00:26:36,194
Makes my son
862
00:26:37,095 --> 00:26:39,164
and sometimes I still fall into that
863
00:26:40,231 --> 00:26:42,167
to that trap you know.
864
00:26:42,167 --> 00:26:43,268
And my kid says to me
865
00:26:43,268 --> 00:26:46,237
that if I see one more Diablo drill bit
866
00:26:46,237 --> 00:26:48,473
or Diablo sub plate,
867
00:26:48,473 --> 00:26:50,108
I'm going to bang in the head with it.
868
00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:51,743
You got to stop.
869
00:26:51,743 --> 00:26:52,811
And he was showing me,
870
00:26:52,811 --> 00:26:54,179
you know, his stoplights
871
00:26:54,179 --> 00:26:55,146
and yeah,
872
00:26:55,146 --> 00:26:57,315
you know, they're 8000 dollars, but,
873
00:26:58,083 --> 00:26:59,517
you know, make beautiful cuts there.
874
00:26:59,517 --> 00:27:02,153
Perfect where?
875
00:27:02,153 --> 00:27:04,856
Oh, man, I just got into that now.
876
00:27:05,056 --> 00:27:05,991
That's good.
877
00:27:05,991 --> 00:27:07,058
Oh, well,
878
00:27:07,058 --> 00:27:07,692
you know, I can buy
879
00:27:07,692 --> 00:27:09,127
five Diablo Blades
880
00:27:09,127 --> 00:27:11,363
compared to your one blade. Yeah.
881
00:27:11,963 --> 00:27:12,530
He's like, yeah,
882
00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:14,032
but a brand new Diablo blade
883
00:27:14,032 --> 00:27:15,900
isn't going to make a beautiful cut like
884
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,335
my blade does. Yeah.
885
00:27:18,803 --> 00:27:19,638
And what I,
886
00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:21,106
you know, another
887
00:27:21,106 --> 00:27:23,408
one that he got me with was
888
00:27:23,408 --> 00:27:25,710
his first tool, Palm Sander.
889
00:27:27,379 --> 00:27:28,246
I don't know what he paid for.
890
00:27:28,246 --> 00:27:28,913
I think he told me
891
00:27:28,913 --> 00:27:30,949
paid like 400 bucks or something.
892
00:27:30,949 --> 00:27:33,051
I'm like, what are. You out of your mind?
893
00:27:33,051 --> 00:27:34,185
I can buy
894
00:27:34,252 --> 00:27:37,355
I can buy ten Palm Sanders for $400.
895
00:27:37,622 --> 00:27:38,356
Yeah.
896
00:27:38,556 --> 00:27:40,258
And he goes just,
897
00:27:40,258 --> 00:27:41,693
I'm going to save you some time.
898
00:27:41,693 --> 00:27:42,360
He goes, Don't say
899
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,429
another word, just use it.
900
00:27:44,429 --> 00:27:46,765
Try it. Yeah.
901
00:27:46,798 --> 00:27:47,732
So
902
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:50,402
I guess that was my myth.
903
00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:52,337
Low cost tools, bits and blades
904
00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:53,705
save money.
905
00:27:53,738 --> 00:27:54,406
Yeah.
906
00:27:54,406 --> 00:27:56,007
Because they don't save time,
907
00:27:56,007 --> 00:27:57,242
I'll tell you that.
908
00:27:57,242 --> 00:27:58,276
No,
909
00:27:58,276 --> 00:27:58,543
you end
910
00:27:58,543 --> 00:27:59,244
up having to buy
911
00:27:59,244 --> 00:28:02,047
them over and over and over again.
912
00:28:02,313 --> 00:28:03,448
So, yeah, I'm
913
00:28:03,448 --> 00:28:04,983
kind of the other way around,
914
00:28:04,983 --> 00:28:05,850
maybe even to a fault.
915
00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:07,552
And I am, by the way,
916
00:28:07,552 --> 00:28:09,888
you know, I'm huge into bass fishing,
917
00:28:09,888 --> 00:28:11,322
you know, and I'm
918
00:28:11,322 --> 00:28:12,691
you know, I'm a tool guy,
919
00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:14,726
but I have no love
920
00:28:14,726 --> 00:28:16,895
for for old, old fishing equipment.
921
00:28:17,395 --> 00:28:20,065
I have no love for for old to
922
00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:21,933
I don't have know romantic
923
00:28:21,933 --> 00:28:23,535
feel about old tools.
924
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:25,570
Like some guys would put all stars
925
00:28:25,603 --> 00:28:27,105
in their house or in their
926
00:28:27,105 --> 00:28:28,473
their man cave or something
927
00:28:28,473 --> 00:28:29,774
or they'll put, you know,
928
00:28:29,774 --> 00:28:31,643
or they want to buy old fishing equipment
929
00:28:31,643 --> 00:28:32,844
because oh, it's all
930
00:28:32,844 --> 00:28:34,479
I have zero interest in that.
931
00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:36,915
I want the best technology you can get.
932
00:28:36,915 --> 00:28:39,084
So that same with like all Corvettes
933
00:28:39,084 --> 00:28:40,018
and everything.
934
00:28:40,018 --> 00:28:41,152
I love the way they look,
935
00:28:41,152 --> 00:28:41,619
but what I,
936
00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:42,454
what I spend the money
937
00:28:42,454 --> 00:28:44,823
on a really nice old car like that.
938
00:28:45,023 --> 00:28:47,192
No, because it doesn't have that air
939
00:28:47,192 --> 00:28:48,793
that comes up to your seat.
940
00:28:48,793 --> 00:28:49,561
Have you ever had one of
941
00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:50,862
those, by the way? Oh,
942
00:28:51,896 --> 00:28:53,665
you haven't lived
943
00:28:53,665 --> 00:28:54,199
until you
944
00:28:54,199 --> 00:28:55,600
said in an automobile
945
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,670
that has cold air flowing up your butt.
946
00:28:59,671 --> 00:29:01,172
I'm telling you, Rob.
947
00:29:01,172 --> 00:29:02,640
This is important to you.
948
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,676
I was hugely important.
949
00:29:04,676 --> 00:29:06,478
I was in an F-150 truck.
950
00:29:06,478 --> 00:29:07,846
I think it was
951
00:29:07,846 --> 00:29:09,614
driving to a jobsite in Michigan
952
00:29:09,614 --> 00:29:11,282
with somebody looking at a job.
953
00:29:11,282 --> 00:29:12,951
It was hot. It could be sweating.
954
00:29:12,951 --> 00:29:14,419
It was hot driving down a road.
955
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:17,555
I said, oh, my God, is there like
956
00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:18,256
air conditioner
957
00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:20,391
flowing through the seat up into my body
958
00:29:20,391 --> 00:29:23,161
right now? You go? Yeah, I went.
959
00:29:23,161 --> 00:29:24,195
I got out my phone.
960
00:29:24,195 --> 00:29:25,430
I put that on my list of things
961
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:27,132
I need to have in an automobile
962
00:29:27,132 --> 00:29:28,166
that was the greatest thing
963
00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:29,601
I've ever seen in my life.
964
00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:33,138
I have zero interest in the old 1968
965
00:29:34,105 --> 00:29:35,740
Z 28 Camaro.
966
00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:38,076
As much as I love the way they look
967
00:29:38,076 --> 00:29:40,311
with funky bucket seats or whatever,
968
00:29:40,311 --> 00:29:42,881
that doesn't have all the new technology.
969
00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:44,916
So I.
970
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:47,452
I don't think there's any prettier car
971
00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:49,888
than a 72 stingray.
972
00:29:51,389 --> 00:29:51,723
Yeah.
973
00:29:51,723 --> 00:29:53,358
I mean,
974
00:29:53,358 --> 00:29:56,094
that is got to be the one of the most
975
00:29:56,728 --> 00:29:58,830
badass looking cars in the world.
976
00:29:59,230 --> 00:30:00,031
But
977
00:30:01,032 --> 00:30:02,667
what a horrible, right?
978
00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:04,869
Yeah, they all were.
979
00:30:04,869 --> 00:30:06,304
Yeah. Yeah.
980
00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:08,840
69 Chevelle, the Z, 28.
981
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,442
All that all all in the RS Camaro is.
982
00:30:11,543 --> 00:30:13,578
Oh, man, they're beautiful to look at.
983
00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:15,914
No, give me that.
984
00:30:15,914 --> 00:30:16,181
Yeah.
985
00:30:16,181 --> 00:30:17,482
All right. We got so many.
986
00:30:17,482 --> 00:30:19,050
We're going to keep moving
987
00:30:19,284 --> 00:30:22,153
wood acclimated at my distributor.
988
00:30:22,153 --> 00:30:22,954
I actually never thought
989
00:30:22,954 --> 00:30:24,889
that was the case either.
990
00:30:25,123 --> 00:30:25,924
I never thought
991
00:30:25,924 --> 00:30:27,458
that it would exactly made my stupid.
992
00:30:27,458 --> 00:30:29,327
But I guess some people probably do.
993
00:30:29,327 --> 00:30:31,796
A lot of people do well,
994
00:30:31,796 --> 00:30:32,831
especially when
995
00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:34,032
the distributor tells, you
996
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,502
know, we keep our
997
00:30:37,502 --> 00:30:41,439
we keep our place acclimated.
998
00:30:41,439 --> 00:30:42,373
Yeah.
999
00:30:42,373 --> 00:30:44,242
It's not acclimated to the job site.
1000
00:30:44,242 --> 00:30:45,743
Mm. Yeah, you're right.
1001
00:30:45,743 --> 00:30:46,344
Yeah.
1002
00:30:47,278 --> 00:30:47,912
All right.
1003
00:30:47,912 --> 00:30:49,247
Been doing this for 40 years.
1004
00:30:49,247 --> 00:30:50,448
I don't need no training.
1005
00:30:50,448 --> 00:30:55,086
I don't need no stinking training.
1006
00:30:55,086 --> 00:30:57,155
But Sierra madre,
1007
00:30:57,155 --> 00:30:58,323
the treasure of Sierra madre,
1008
00:30:58,323 --> 00:30:59,791
one of the greatest lines
1009
00:30:59,791 --> 00:31:00,625
ever in a movie.
1010
00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:02,727
We don't need those stinking badges.
1011
00:31:02,727 --> 00:31:03,962
Badges, badges.
1012
00:31:03,962 --> 00:31:05,897
We don't need no stinking badges.
1013
00:31:05,897 --> 00:31:06,731
That movie.
1014
00:31:06,831 --> 00:31:08,132
Is that where that came from?
1015
00:31:08,132 --> 00:31:09,334
I thought that came from a Clint
1016
00:31:09,334 --> 00:31:11,803
Eastwood movie. No,
1017
00:31:11,803 --> 00:31:14,505
I don't think so.
1018
00:31:14,505 --> 00:31:16,741
No, I know the scene. Yeah, definitely.
1019
00:31:17,275 --> 00:31:21,679
Not damning to look it up.
1020
00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:23,548
Speaking of movies,
1021
00:31:23,548 --> 00:31:25,516
why you're looking that up?
1022
00:31:25,817 --> 00:31:27,118
I watched the movie the other night.
1023
00:31:27,118 --> 00:31:27,952
I don't know if you've seen
1024
00:31:27,952 --> 00:31:31,155
if you ever seen the movie The Irishman.
1025
00:31:31,155 --> 00:31:33,992
No. I know you live it.
1026
00:31:33,992 --> 00:31:37,161
Hmm.
1027
00:31:37,161 --> 00:31:39,597
You haven't seen this one yet? No.
1028
00:31:39,597 --> 00:31:40,131
Is it new?
1029
00:31:41,132 --> 00:31:42,634
I think it
1030
00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:45,870
might be a year or two old Scorsese.
1031
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:48,373
He did it. Pesci's in it.
1032
00:31:48,373 --> 00:31:49,874
De Niro.
1033
00:31:51,476 --> 00:31:52,277
I don't.
1034
00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:54,746
It doesn't ring a bell.
1035
00:31:54,812 --> 00:31:56,080
Um.
1036
00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,250
But yeah, it came from the 1948 film
1037
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:01,052
The Treasure of Sierra madre.
1038
00:32:01,052 --> 00:32:01,953
Okay.
1039
00:32:02,553 --> 00:32:04,889
1948 classic.
1040
00:32:04,889 --> 00:32:05,456
Hey, I'm goin.
1041
00:32:05,456 --> 00:32:11,562
Sorry, I don't recall the movie, so.
1042
00:32:12,797 --> 00:32:14,866
Mm hmm.
1043
00:32:14,866 --> 00:32:16,334
There's another big star in it.
1044
00:32:16,334 --> 00:32:18,603
I can't think of his name.
1045
00:32:18,603 --> 00:32:19,237
Who is the guy
1046
00:32:19,237 --> 00:32:22,740
he was the coach in in any given Sunday.
1047
00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:24,742
Big time actor De Niro.
1048
00:32:24,742 --> 00:32:26,044
Not De Niro.
1049
00:32:26,644 --> 00:32:27,545
Al Pacino.
1050
00:32:27,545 --> 00:32:29,147
Pacino. Yeah.
1051
00:32:29,147 --> 00:32:30,982
So it's directed by Scorsese.
1052
00:32:30,982 --> 00:32:33,584
You Pacino's in it, Pesci's in it.
1053
00:32:33,584 --> 00:32:35,620
De Niro is in it.
1054
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,322
It's about Jimmy Hoffa,
1055
00:32:37,322 --> 00:32:38,990
the whole Hoffa story.
1056
00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:40,858
I did see that movie.
1057
00:32:40,858 --> 00:32:42,660
I did see that movie. Yes.
1058
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:45,063
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Where
1059
00:32:46,064 --> 00:32:47,765
Pacino was Hoffa.
1060
00:32:47,765 --> 00:32:48,566
Yes.
1061
00:32:48,566 --> 00:32:52,770
I thought he was a great Hoffa.
1062
00:32:52,770 --> 00:32:54,605
You know, he was.
1063
00:32:54,605 --> 00:32:56,341
But of over that
1064
00:32:56,341 --> 00:32:58,943
that mafia movie now I'm tired of
1065
00:32:59,344 --> 00:33:01,512
I they've been done there
1066
00:33:01,713 --> 00:33:03,247
they're played out
1067
00:33:03,748 --> 00:33:04,449
I.
1068
00:33:04,482 --> 00:33:05,950
I got
1069
00:33:05,950 --> 00:33:08,286
I kind of sound like such a snob here.
1070
00:33:09,554 --> 00:33:11,189
I really had a problem
1071
00:33:11,189 --> 00:33:13,291
with the aging of the characters.
1072
00:33:15,093 --> 00:33:16,260
Well, yeah.
1073
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:17,261
See DeNiro
1074
00:33:17,261 --> 00:33:18,696
trying to play
1075
00:33:18,696 --> 00:33:20,832
a guy in his early twenties.
1076
00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:21,799
It just.
1077
00:33:22,266 --> 00:33:24,002
It was confusing.
1078
00:33:24,469 --> 00:33:26,537
I would hope that they just find somebody
1079
00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:28,206
that kind of look like him
1080
00:33:28,206 --> 00:33:30,141
and do it that way.
1081
00:33:30,141 --> 00:33:31,843
But when they are all playing younger
1082
00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:33,644
versions of themselves.
1083
00:33:33,644 --> 00:33:34,312
Yeah.
1084
00:33:35,046 --> 00:33:36,447
It was a long movie too.
1085
00:33:36,447 --> 00:33:37,215
I had to take a break
1086
00:33:37,215 --> 00:33:38,716
there in that movie.
1087
00:33:38,783 --> 00:33:41,586
Okay, so, okay, so since you said that,
1088
00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:42,420
I just
1089
00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:44,155
I saw not too long ago
1090
00:33:44,155 --> 00:33:46,858
Clint Eastwood's last movie, Cry Macho,
1091
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:48,626
that Drew needs to stop making movies
1092
00:33:48,626 --> 00:33:49,861
for me to get a hold of him
1093
00:33:50,895 --> 00:33:53,064
as the worst damn movie ever see my life.
1094
00:33:53,064 --> 00:33:54,098
And in one part of the movie,
1095
00:33:54,098 --> 00:33:56,401
he's on a horse training a horse.
1096
00:33:56,401 --> 00:33:57,468
And but then they showed him
1097
00:33:57,468 --> 00:33:58,903
when the horse is going crazy.
1098
00:33:58,903 --> 00:33:59,837
It was a wide shot
1099
00:33:59,837 --> 00:34:02,106
from like 60 yards away.
1100
00:34:02,106 --> 00:34:02,740
I kept thinking,
1101
00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:03,408
if that man falls,
1102
00:34:03,408 --> 00:34:04,575
that horse of that horse,
1103
00:34:04,575 --> 00:34:06,144
he's going to break a hill.
1104
00:34:06,644 --> 00:34:07,712
And then he had a love interest.
1105
00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:08,579
It was like
1106
00:34:09,013 --> 00:34:11,115
45 years old, younger than him.
1107
00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:12,150
Oh, if I can get rhythm,
1108
00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:13,051
get out of here with that.
1109
00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:15,153
Come on, man is over.
1110
00:34:15,153 --> 00:34:16,721
I love you, man. But it's it's.
1111
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:19,290
Everybody's got to show, play. All right.
1112
00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:22,193
What do you think of the mule?
1113
00:34:22,193 --> 00:34:25,296
The mule. The mule.
1114
00:34:25,463 --> 00:34:26,764
Oh, I didn't like it.
1115
00:34:26,764 --> 00:34:27,932
Didn't like it.
1116
00:34:28,032 --> 00:34:29,467
No, I'm. I'm over him.
1117
00:34:29,467 --> 00:34:30,134
I mean, you know.
1118
00:34:30,134 --> 00:34:32,503
Like his his really old guy, Gran.
1119
00:34:32,503 --> 00:34:33,504
Torino.
1120
00:34:33,504 --> 00:34:34,639
Now, you remember him
1121
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:35,440
back in the day
1122
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,176
when he was the man in the snow.
1123
00:34:38,176 --> 00:34:39,043
I didn't like the mule
1124
00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:41,212
here.
1125
00:34:41,279 --> 00:34:42,213
Yeah, I like Gran
1126
00:34:42,213 --> 00:34:43,648
Torino, oddly enough, a little bit,
1127
00:34:43,648 --> 00:34:44,582
because it was kind of more
1128
00:34:44,582 --> 00:34:45,116
his character.
1129
00:34:45,116 --> 00:34:46,250
He's a tough guy,
1130
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:48,719
and and it worked in that movie, so.
1131
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,253
Yeah.
1132
00:34:50,154 --> 00:34:50,755
All right.
1133
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:51,889
What else you got?
1134
00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:53,791
I don't know where we're doing.
1135
00:34:53,791 --> 00:34:54,692
Finished guinea pigs
1136
00:34:54,692 --> 00:34:57,728
with a screen and go.
1137
00:34:57,728 --> 00:34:59,430
I have to say.
1138
00:35:00,331 --> 00:35:01,766
No way.
1139
00:35:01,866 --> 00:35:02,600
Yeah.
1140
00:35:03,534 --> 00:35:05,069
If it's being one
1141
00:35:05,069 --> 00:35:06,871
you put finish on top of floor
1142
00:35:06,871 --> 00:35:08,372
that's playing
1143
00:35:08,473 --> 00:35:09,841
usually it's just going to cause
1144
00:35:09,841 --> 00:35:11,042
more paneling.
1145
00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:13,377
Finish dries, it pulls tight,
1146
00:35:13,377 --> 00:35:14,078
it pulls tight.
1147
00:35:14,078 --> 00:35:15,780
It's going to find weak spots
1148
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:17,582
that's going to peel again.
1149
00:35:17,582 --> 00:35:18,449
Yeah. Yeah.
1150
00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:20,418
You get a feeling for
1151
00:35:20,418 --> 00:35:22,687
a screen and coat isn't going to fix it.
1152
00:35:22,687 --> 00:35:24,388
You got a sander.
1153
00:35:24,689 --> 00:35:26,891
Like putting a house on a bad foundation.
1154
00:35:26,891 --> 00:35:28,259
It just doesn't. Doesn't work.
1155
00:35:28,259 --> 00:35:30,528
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
1156
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:34,065
But it runs any direction.
1157
00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:39,170
It's spinning circular.
1158
00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:39,871
Yeah, we know.
1159
00:35:39,871 --> 00:35:42,907
We got to clock the bumpers.
1160
00:35:42,907 --> 00:35:43,941
And it's amazing
1161
00:35:43,941 --> 00:35:46,277
how many guys come to the school.
1162
00:35:46,277 --> 00:35:47,879
I guess it's because I'm in training.
1163
00:35:47,879 --> 00:35:49,447
I've been training for a long time.
1164
00:35:49,447 --> 00:35:51,415
So, you know, a lot of this stuff
1165
00:35:51,415 --> 00:35:53,684
just seems like second nature.
1166
00:35:53,684 --> 00:35:54,285
But
1167
00:35:55,353 --> 00:35:56,821
there's a lot of people out there,
1168
00:35:56,821 --> 00:35:58,556
a lot of guys come to the schools like,
1169
00:35:58,556 --> 00:35:59,891
come on, it doesn't really matter.
1170
00:35:59,891 --> 00:36:02,393
Does it matter whether you can?
1171
00:36:02,393 --> 00:36:03,227
You know,
1172
00:36:03,361 --> 00:36:03,995
one of the things
1173
00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:04,829
I've been showing guys,
1174
00:36:04,829 --> 00:36:07,031
you can only heal it on that right
1175
00:36:07,031 --> 00:36:09,367
corner. Mm hmm.
1176
00:36:09,367 --> 00:36:09,667
You know,
1177
00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:10,902
you try handling it to the left.
1178
00:36:10,902 --> 00:36:12,003
Doesn't go.
1179
00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:12,403
To work.
1180
00:36:12,403 --> 00:36:15,573
Yeah, doesn't work. So
1181
00:36:15,573 --> 00:36:19,677
clock in the buffer.
1182
00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:20,945
Big machines
1183
00:36:20,945 --> 00:36:23,147
go left to right or right to left.
1184
00:36:23,147 --> 00:36:23,748
It doesn't matter.
1185
00:36:25,416 --> 00:36:27,752
But actually, though it does.
1186
00:36:27,752 --> 00:36:29,086
It does matter.
1187
00:36:29,086 --> 00:36:30,755
Yeah. You can run them the wrong way.
1188
00:36:30,755 --> 00:36:32,924
Don't get me wrong. You can. They'll run.
1189
00:36:32,957 --> 00:36:34,158
They'll cut
1190
00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:36,761
the problem with running them
1191
00:36:36,761 --> 00:36:38,095
from the right side of the room
1192
00:36:38,095 --> 00:36:39,597
to the left
1193
00:36:39,764 --> 00:36:41,966
is you have that outside wheel
1194
00:36:43,601 --> 00:36:45,836
that's not going to run where
1195
00:36:45,836 --> 00:36:48,105
the sand or has sand it. Yeah yeah.
1196
00:36:48,439 --> 00:36:49,907
So anything it hits
1197
00:36:49,907 --> 00:36:54,011
it telegraphs to the cut head.
1198
00:36:54,011 --> 00:36:55,913
Yeah, that's a fact.
1199
00:36:55,913 --> 00:36:57,048
And I know some guys
1200
00:36:57,048 --> 00:36:58,849
still have a hard time with that one.
1201
00:36:58,849 --> 00:37:00,284
These. Yeah, I've never had any problems.
1202
00:37:00,284 --> 00:37:01,285
I've never had any problems.
1203
00:37:01,285 --> 00:37:02,153
I run the belt.
1204
00:37:02,153 --> 00:37:03,487
They're right to left,
1205
00:37:03,487 --> 00:37:04,922
but they are truly designed
1206
00:37:04,922 --> 00:37:06,457
to run left to right.
1207
00:37:06,457 --> 00:37:08,159
In the old days, the drum Sanders.
1208
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:09,594
Well, drum Sanders are designed
1209
00:37:09,594 --> 00:37:10,962
to cut from right to left.
1210
00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:12,763
Yes. Back in the day.
1211
00:37:12,763 --> 00:37:13,531
But and also
1212
00:37:13,531 --> 00:37:15,967
they were usually slanted at an angle.
1213
00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:18,336
But back then to the Billy
1214
00:37:18,336 --> 00:37:19,870
wasn't near as good as it is right now.
1215
00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:21,172
We have to think Fergal
1216
00:37:21,172 --> 00:37:21,672
in those
1217
00:37:21,672 --> 00:37:23,107
those type of factors
1218
00:37:23,107 --> 00:37:24,675
for that in a way
1219
00:37:24,675 --> 00:37:27,378
that the milling of the floor
1220
00:37:27,378 --> 00:37:29,714
has gotten much, much, much better.
1221
00:37:29,714 --> 00:37:31,315
And you don't have so much over
1222
00:37:31,315 --> 00:37:32,483
when the stock wasn't
1223
00:37:32,483 --> 00:37:34,285
really picked up over the next one
1224
00:37:34,285 --> 00:37:36,320
and then you had a grind.
1225
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,356
So much of that off the force
1226
00:37:38,356 --> 00:37:39,824
that's come out now
1227
00:37:39,824 --> 00:37:41,292
are way better
1228
00:37:41,292 --> 00:37:42,660
milled than they were in the past. So
1229
00:37:44,028 --> 00:37:45,796
the work coach the better.
1230
00:37:45,796 --> 00:37:49,267
Yeah that can that
1231
00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:51,302
100% I agree with that one
1232
00:37:51,302 --> 00:37:52,770
yeah you know I've had customers
1233
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:54,372
tell me that hey
1234
00:37:54,872 --> 00:37:56,207
I'll give you another $500.
1235
00:37:56,207 --> 00:37:57,775
Just put one more code on it
1236
00:37:57,775 --> 00:37:58,609
and we'll tell them.
1237
00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:00,311
No, we want the money.
1238
00:38:00,311 --> 00:38:01,646
You've got three coats on there.
1239
00:38:01,646 --> 00:38:03,648
It doesn't need another coat.
1240
00:38:03,648 --> 00:38:04,882
You're working on that last good.
1241
00:38:04,882 --> 00:38:05,916
You got a lot of build there.
1242
00:38:05,916 --> 00:38:07,485
You got a great system
1243
00:38:07,485 --> 00:38:09,887
and you just don't need that next coat.
1244
00:38:10,354 --> 00:38:12,023
So save your money.
1245
00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:14,492
Well, sometimes to what?
1246
00:38:14,492 --> 00:38:15,660
What I used to do
1247
00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:18,396
and what I tell our students.
1248
00:38:18,396 --> 00:38:19,563
Now, you get the homeowner,
1249
00:38:19,563 --> 00:38:21,732
you know, they do sealers and do tacos.
1250
00:38:22,366 --> 00:38:23,501
You're good to go.
1251
00:38:23,501 --> 00:38:26,170
That's the that's our recommended system.
1252
00:38:26,671 --> 00:38:28,439
Well, you know, some of the homeowners.
1253
00:38:29,507 --> 00:38:29,807
Well, if
1254
00:38:29,807 --> 00:38:32,343
two top coats is good, I want four.
1255
00:38:32,343 --> 00:38:33,477
Yeah, okay.
1256
00:38:33,811 --> 00:38:34,745
No problem.
1257
00:38:34,745 --> 00:38:36,147
I'll give you four.
1258
00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:38,149
But it's got to be on my time frame.
1259
00:38:39,083 --> 00:38:41,052
I'll do the two and two,
1260
00:38:41,052 --> 00:38:42,687
then I'll come back in two weeks
1261
00:38:42,687 --> 00:38:44,055
a braid it
1262
00:38:44,121 --> 00:38:46,557
and then I'll give you another two coats.
1263
00:38:46,557 --> 00:38:46,991
That way
1264
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:49,493
we know everything is completely cured.
1265
00:38:49,493 --> 00:38:51,896
Can't be just because they wanted.
1266
00:38:51,896 --> 00:38:53,230
But the other thing is, I never want
1267
00:38:53,230 --> 00:38:53,831
tell anybody.
1268
00:38:53,831 --> 00:38:54,498
No,
1269
00:38:54,965 --> 00:38:55,366
and that's
1270
00:38:55,366 --> 00:38:57,501
nice easy money there to right.
1271
00:38:58,402 --> 00:38:59,470
Give them what they want
1272
00:38:59,470 --> 00:39:02,773
but it has to be done correctly.
1273
00:39:02,773 --> 00:39:03,174
Yeah.
1274
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:05,042
And I think too that you can the
1275
00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:05,476
the problem
1276
00:39:05,476 --> 00:39:07,244
with putting multiple coach on
1277
00:39:07,244 --> 00:39:08,012
and the like
1278
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:09,213
I see you had to do a repair
1279
00:39:09,213 --> 00:39:10,281
there is to bring a finish
1280
00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:11,682
and you have to put a fourth coat on
1281
00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:14,719
then God forbid that doesn't go good.
1282
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,120
Now you're looking at a fifth coat.
1283
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,721
The more coat
1284
00:39:16,721 --> 00:39:17,121
you put on,
1285
00:39:17,121 --> 00:39:19,190
the more difficult becomes to coat.
1286
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:20,224
I think it's like a surface
1287
00:39:20,224 --> 00:39:20,958
tension issue.
1288
00:39:20,958 --> 00:39:22,193
I don't know what what it is
1289
00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,161
exactly, but it does make it
1290
00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:25,429
get so slick.
1291
00:39:25,429 --> 00:39:27,598
The finish almost can't lay down
1292
00:39:27,598 --> 00:39:29,633
and it goes.
1293
00:39:29,633 --> 00:39:30,768
We get these little tiny,
1294
00:39:30,768 --> 00:39:32,403
tiny bubbles and stuff.
1295
00:39:32,403 --> 00:39:34,772
I think that especially with oil based,
1296
00:39:35,673 --> 00:39:36,273
the more you put
1297
00:39:36,273 --> 00:39:37,608
on, sometimes more challenging
1298
00:39:37,608 --> 00:39:38,909
it becomes to a.
1299
00:39:38,909 --> 00:39:41,345
And that two weeks that's for water bass.
1300
00:39:42,446 --> 00:39:43,080
Yeah.
1301
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,614
If it's oil.
1302
00:39:43,614 --> 00:39:46,450
Bass I'll be back next month. Yeah. Yeah.
1303
00:39:46,517 --> 00:39:47,251
You want to make sure
1304
00:39:47,251 --> 00:39:49,320
that everything is cure
1305
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,721
cured out completely
1306
00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:51,589
and correctly
1307
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:53,324
before you start laying
1308
00:39:53,324 --> 00:39:54,792
multiple coats on there?
1309
00:39:54,792 --> 00:39:56,927
Cause, I mean, that's what we know.
1310
00:39:56,927 --> 00:39:57,361
That's why
1311
00:39:57,361 --> 00:39:58,529
we recommend our,
1312
00:39:58,529 --> 00:40:00,865
you know, our system to to
1313
00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:02,533
we know everything's going to cure root
1314
00:40:03,501 --> 00:40:04,635
correctly.
1315
00:40:05,002 --> 00:40:06,470
There's something also to be said for
1316
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:07,438
if you really not get
1317
00:40:07,438 --> 00:40:08,072
we're out of the park
1318
00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:11,275
like it's a ten on a ten scale
1319
00:40:11,976 --> 00:40:12,410
I really do
1320
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:13,778
want to put that next go down.
1321
00:40:13,778 --> 00:40:14,278
You know what I mean?
1322
00:40:14,278 --> 00:40:15,479
If we put up, we said a group
1323
00:40:15,479 --> 00:40:16,247
with three coats on
1324
00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:17,615
and we put three goats on,
1325
00:40:17,615 --> 00:40:19,250
we knocked it out of the park.
1326
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:21,152
Let's let's take the wind,
1327
00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:21,752
you know what I mean?
1328
00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:22,953
And not tempt fate
1329
00:40:22,953 --> 00:40:24,889
and put that fourth coat on and now said,
1330
00:40:24,889 --> 00:40:26,157
you've got a job site
1331
00:40:26,157 --> 00:40:27,725
first thing going on.
1332
00:40:27,725 --> 00:40:28,359
Right.
1333
00:40:29,059 --> 00:40:30,995
All right.
1334
00:40:30,995 --> 00:40:33,130
First, personal protection
1335
00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:36,867
equipment is for wimps.
1336
00:40:36,867 --> 00:40:38,769
That was the mindset.
1337
00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:40,137
It really was.
1338
00:40:40,137 --> 00:40:40,638
Yeah. Yeah.
1339
00:40:40,638 --> 00:40:41,071
I remember
1340
00:40:41,071 --> 00:40:43,174
the name of this show, Wood Floor Myths.
1341
00:40:44,275 --> 00:40:44,608
Yeah.
1342
00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:47,311
That was remember the first time I put
1343
00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:50,514
my falling
1344
00:40:50,514 --> 00:40:51,248
and my
1345
00:40:51,248 --> 00:40:53,551
mother in law came out to a job one time
1346
00:40:55,152 --> 00:40:57,455
and it we were doing a 16
1347
00:40:57,488 --> 00:40:58,522
lane bowling alley
1348
00:40:58,522 --> 00:41:00,458
a couple towns away from where we live.
1349
00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:01,759
So they brought the guys to lunch.
1350
00:41:01,759 --> 00:41:03,461
They brought us lunch.
1351
00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:05,729
And when they came in, you know,
1352
00:41:05,763 --> 00:41:07,832
my mother in law's a nurse at the time,
1353
00:41:08,933 --> 00:41:11,235
and she could not believe
1354
00:41:11,235 --> 00:41:14,071
the the noise of the machines.
1355
00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:16,307
I mean, she was just,
1356
00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:17,775
you know, blown away.
1357
00:41:17,775 --> 00:41:19,210
She could hear it out in the parking lot.
1358
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:21,779
But when she opened the doors to come in,
1359
00:41:21,779 --> 00:41:24,548
you know, so she said to Paul, she goes,
1360
00:41:24,582 --> 00:41:26,083
you better
1361
00:41:26,083 --> 00:41:27,718
get him some type of hair protection.
1362
00:41:27,718 --> 00:41:28,519
He's going to be death
1363
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,856
by the time he's 40.
1364
00:41:31,856 --> 00:41:34,091
So she actually went out that day
1365
00:41:34,091 --> 00:41:35,559
and bought me a set of
1366
00:41:36,727 --> 00:41:38,162
hair and protection.
1367
00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:40,431
And I think they're called pelts
1368
00:41:40,431 --> 00:41:41,165
or they're
1369
00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:41,899
they're the ones that
1370
00:41:41,899 --> 00:41:43,834
the guys at the airport use,
1371
00:41:43,834 --> 00:41:45,302
you know, those big ones like that.
1372
00:41:45,302 --> 00:41:46,704
Yeah. Yeah.
1373
00:41:47,004 --> 00:41:48,739
And I remember Pauline said, Oh,
1374
00:41:48,739 --> 00:41:50,107
you know, I got you something.
1375
00:41:50,107 --> 00:41:52,443
My mother got you something.
1376
00:41:52,443 --> 00:41:54,011
And I remember looking at those things
1377
00:41:54,011 --> 00:41:55,746
and they will
1378
00:41:55,746 --> 00:41:58,182
laugh me out of the building, you know.
1379
00:41:58,716 --> 00:41:59,450
Yeah.
1380
00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:01,118
And anyways,
1381
00:42:01,118 --> 00:42:01,886
we're on a job
1382
00:42:01,886 --> 00:42:04,922
and I'm edging inside of a closet
1383
00:42:04,922 --> 00:42:07,091
and it's, you know, you,
1384
00:42:07,091 --> 00:42:09,493
you veg inside of a closet, right.
1385
00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:11,896
Without even protection.
1386
00:42:11,896 --> 00:42:13,464
So I was like, this is crazy.
1387
00:42:13,464 --> 00:42:15,766
I'm going to go get those those earmuffs.
1388
00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:16,934
I know. I got them on the truck.
1389
00:42:16,934 --> 00:42:18,969
I put those earmuffs on
1390
00:42:18,969 --> 00:42:21,839
and I was like, You got to be kidding me.
1391
00:42:21,906 --> 00:42:22,473
I mean,
1392
00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:25,709
but man, oh, man,
1393
00:42:25,709 --> 00:42:26,944
that crap
1394
00:42:26,944 --> 00:42:29,747
that I heard from every guy in that crew.
1395
00:42:29,747 --> 00:42:31,148
Yeah. And I was.
1396
00:42:31,148 --> 00:42:32,516
I was taking them off like, no,
1397
00:42:32,516 --> 00:42:33,584
you got to try these things.
1398
00:42:33,584 --> 00:42:35,152
This is unbelievable.
1399
00:42:35,152 --> 00:42:36,387
This is going to change your life.
1400
00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:39,657
And, you know, absolutely never.
1401
00:42:39,657 --> 00:42:40,658
No way.
1402
00:42:41,058 --> 00:42:41,725
Well, my.
1403
00:42:41,725 --> 00:42:42,326
Same guys
1404
00:42:42,326 --> 00:42:43,594
who were polar moisture carrier
1405
00:42:43,594 --> 00:42:45,095
with no respirators.
1406
00:42:45,095 --> 00:42:47,197
No. Yes.
1407
00:42:47,932 --> 00:42:50,034
You know, the old timers. Yep.
1408
00:42:50,034 --> 00:42:51,936
When I when I asked for iPad.
1409
00:42:51,936 --> 00:42:54,204
So like six months into the trade
1410
00:42:54,204 --> 00:42:55,739
and Diego all day long,
1411
00:42:55,739 --> 00:42:57,174
that's all I did for for six
1412
00:42:57,174 --> 00:42:58,375
months is pretty much hand-to-hand
1413
00:42:58,375 --> 00:42:59,510
and hook.
1414
00:42:59,510 --> 00:43:02,379
And I asked my uncle for an iPad
1415
00:43:02,379 --> 00:43:04,348
and I'll never forget what he said.
1416
00:43:04,348 --> 00:43:04,648
What are you,
1417
00:43:04,648 --> 00:43:05,182
one of those kids
1418
00:43:05,182 --> 00:43:10,321
that wants to live forever?
1419
00:43:10,321 --> 00:43:11,589
So all right.
1420
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:12,489
So I put down a few
1421
00:43:12,489 --> 00:43:14,425
I put down a few of my list of myths
1422
00:43:14,425 --> 00:43:17,361
that I thought was was it was the case.
1423
00:43:17,361 --> 00:43:19,196
And it turned out not to be put off.
1424
00:43:19,196 --> 00:43:20,764
And one of them was Orbital Sanders.
1425
00:43:20,764 --> 00:43:21,765
I just talked about hands
1426
00:43:21,765 --> 00:43:23,567
and we looked at our nose
1427
00:43:23,567 --> 00:43:26,737
so much at Orbital Sanders Oh my gosh.
1428
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:28,505
And when a new kid showed up on
1429
00:43:28,505 --> 00:43:29,273
a job and asked him,
1430
00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:30,441
he could use one
1431
00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:32,509
and we were disgusted with him,
1432
00:43:32,509 --> 00:43:33,277
you know what I mean?
1433
00:43:33,277 --> 00:43:35,012
Like nobody used orbital Sanders
1434
00:43:35,012 --> 00:43:35,913
we all hands
1435
00:43:35,913 --> 00:43:37,615
had was the only way to do it right
1436
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:39,083
and they turned out beautiful.
1437
00:43:39,083 --> 00:43:39,950
Don't get me wrong.
1438
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:41,318
We saying was so great.
1439
00:43:41,318 --> 00:43:43,187
They turned out beautiful.
1440
00:43:43,187 --> 00:43:44,421
But there's a
1441
00:43:44,421 --> 00:43:47,224
there's a better way to do it.
1442
00:43:47,224 --> 00:43:48,359
That's a real good one.
1443
00:43:48,359 --> 00:43:50,060
You're right. Yes. I felt the same way.
1444
00:43:51,662 --> 00:43:52,296
This is going to be
1445
00:43:52,296 --> 00:43:53,897
completely controversial.
1446
00:43:53,897 --> 00:43:55,699
This next one, I'm going to say
1447
00:43:55,699 --> 00:43:58,402
it's a it's a myth.
1448
00:43:58,402 --> 00:43:59,536
And I still some people
1449
00:43:59,536 --> 00:44:00,270
believe this today.
1450
00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:01,372
And I
1451
00:44:01,372 --> 00:44:02,573
I'm going to say something
1452
00:44:02,573 --> 00:44:03,340
as if people are going to go,
1453
00:44:03,340 --> 00:44:04,341
oh, he's out of his mind
1454
00:44:04,341 --> 00:44:06,210
or he's a hack or whatever.
1455
00:44:06,210 --> 00:44:07,578
You do not have to remove.
1456
00:44:07,578 --> 00:44:08,712
What's your molding on his hand?
1457
00:44:08,712 --> 00:44:10,014
Change up
1458
00:44:10,547 --> 00:44:11,382
now
1459
00:44:12,883 --> 00:44:14,585
is it smart to or whatever?
1460
00:44:14,585 --> 00:44:15,986
Because you can be money
1461
00:44:15,986 --> 00:44:16,820
for the shoe molding
1462
00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:18,989
or because you don't, you know,
1463
00:44:18,989 --> 00:44:20,057
the shoe moldings beat up.
1464
00:44:20,057 --> 00:44:21,158
You would put down the jewelry.
1465
00:44:21,158 --> 00:44:22,626
Okay, I get it.
1466
00:44:22,626 --> 00:44:24,361
But I can promise you,
1467
00:44:24,361 --> 00:44:25,763
I do not need to remove shoe
1468
00:44:25,763 --> 00:44:27,965
molding to sand the floor properly.
1469
00:44:27,965 --> 00:44:28,899
And I'm not talking
1470
00:44:28,899 --> 00:44:29,400
to be
1471
00:44:29,433 --> 00:44:31,201
leaving digs in the corner
1472
00:44:31,201 --> 00:44:32,970
or leaving a little, little halos
1473
00:44:32,970 --> 00:44:33,771
or anything, that kind of stuff.
1474
00:44:33,771 --> 00:44:35,072
There should not be any of that.
1475
00:44:35,072 --> 00:44:36,674
There should be zero of that.
1476
00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:37,708
But you can.
1477
00:44:37,708 --> 00:44:39,610
You can. Absolutely.
1478
00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:40,878
We did a lot of historical work.
1479
00:44:40,878 --> 00:44:41,679
We didn't want to
1480
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:42,880
or couldn't take up shoe molding.
1481
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,949
And you could get that at the edge.
1482
00:44:46,050 --> 00:44:47,651
You're right up on it.
1483
00:44:47,651 --> 00:44:49,353
Now, touching it doesn't doesn't count.
1484
00:44:49,353 --> 00:44:51,689
If you touch it, you can't touch it.
1485
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:52,256
And then
1486
00:44:53,424 --> 00:44:54,992
sometimes you don't even need
1487
00:44:54,992 --> 00:44:55,993
to use a scraper.
1488
00:44:55,993 --> 00:44:56,694
You can
1489
00:44:56,694 --> 00:44:57,695
if you've got a good eye
1490
00:44:57,695 --> 00:44:58,262
and whatever you get,
1491
00:44:58,262 --> 00:44:59,263
you can get right up on there
1492
00:44:59,263 --> 00:45:01,999
without kissing the the the molding
1493
00:45:02,399 --> 00:45:03,867
or that you got to hook it,
1494
00:45:03,867 --> 00:45:05,069
use the scraper
1495
00:45:05,069 --> 00:45:06,737
to finish off the end of it.
1496
00:45:06,737 --> 00:45:09,139
So the myth the myth would be.
1497
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:10,741
That you have to remove it ever.
1498
00:45:10,741 --> 00:45:12,876
You have to remove shoe molding. Yeah.
1499
00:45:13,444 --> 00:45:15,713
No, I wish I wish Pete was on the show.
1500
00:45:16,814 --> 00:45:18,315
Pete and I
1501
00:45:18,582 --> 00:45:21,118
hardly ever remove shoe molding.
1502
00:45:22,086 --> 00:45:23,520
Hardly ever.
1503
00:45:23,754 --> 00:45:26,023
It was just too much of a pain.
1504
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:27,991
Yeah, to do it.
1505
00:45:27,991 --> 00:45:30,327
To get it back on there, put new on,
1506
00:45:30,327 --> 00:45:32,963
you know, whatever it was is
1507
00:45:32,963 --> 00:45:33,964
way too much.
1508
00:45:33,964 --> 00:45:37,034
You know, we got to the point where
1509
00:45:38,035 --> 00:45:39,369
we could get right up to the
1510
00:45:39,369 --> 00:45:41,371
molding without destroying it,
1511
00:45:41,371 --> 00:45:43,640
without really doing anything to it.
1512
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,308
Yeah.
1513
00:45:44,541 --> 00:45:46,243
There are people that are adamant
1514
00:45:46,243 --> 00:45:48,045
that that adamant
1515
00:45:48,045 --> 00:45:50,314
that you have to remove the shoe molding.
1516
00:45:50,681 --> 00:45:52,316
I'm not saying they're wrong,
1517
00:45:52,316 --> 00:45:56,687
but I'm saying I'm right.
1518
00:45:56,687 --> 00:45:57,121
Okay.
1519
00:45:57,121 --> 00:45:58,789
So the other one is
1520
00:45:58,789 --> 00:46:00,991
you can't raise your prices.
1521
00:46:01,358 --> 00:46:03,560
And that would that you know,
1522
00:46:03,894 --> 00:46:05,062
we talk about this so much,
1523
00:46:05,062 --> 00:46:07,064
I don't want to be this a death, but
1524
00:46:07,064 --> 00:46:08,098
I absolutely thought
1525
00:46:08,098 --> 00:46:09,600
that there was a ceiling
1526
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,702
and I thought that ceiling was was here.
1527
00:46:12,736 --> 00:46:14,772
And it is way farther up
1528
00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:15,973
than I ever thought possible.
1529
00:46:15,973 --> 00:46:16,707
And you can raise
1530
00:46:16,707 --> 00:46:18,242
and we're seeing guys today
1531
00:46:18,242 --> 00:46:19,610
that are actually making
1532
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:21,044
seriously good money
1533
00:46:21,044 --> 00:46:21,678
because they don't
1534
00:46:21,678 --> 00:46:22,813
they don't have that limitation
1535
00:46:22,813 --> 00:46:23,847
in their mind
1536
00:46:23,847 --> 00:46:24,815
of where they need to be
1537
00:46:24,815 --> 00:46:26,984
because someone is at this price.
1538
00:46:26,984 --> 00:46:29,319
So now it is more
1539
00:46:31,221 --> 00:46:31,722
relevant
1540
00:46:31,722 --> 00:46:34,057
today than ever in our history.
1541
00:46:34,725 --> 00:46:36,160
Inflation has gone up higher
1542
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,861
now than it ever has.
1543
00:46:37,861 --> 00:46:38,262
I mean,
1544
00:46:38,262 --> 00:46:39,463
you got to got
1545
00:46:39,463 --> 00:46:43,367
to got to raise your prices, you know,
1546
00:46:43,534 --> 00:46:45,002
the materials going to
1547
00:46:45,002 --> 00:46:46,203
whatever the labor is
1548
00:46:46,203 --> 00:46:48,038
and there's a lot of work out there
1549
00:46:48,038 --> 00:46:49,239
you've got to raise you has.
1550
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,241
Gone up labor. Yeah.
1551
00:46:51,909 --> 00:46:54,778
Gas material everything travel
1552
00:46:54,945 --> 00:46:56,680
everything has gone up
1553
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,415
so you have to raise your prices
1554
00:46:58,415 --> 00:46:59,817
just to survive.
1555
00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:01,585
Don't get stuck thinking
1556
00:47:01,585 --> 00:47:04,254
I got to be a nice guy,
1557
00:47:04,254 --> 00:47:05,689
be a nice guy to yourself
1558
00:47:05,689 --> 00:47:06,990
and raise your prices.
1559
00:47:06,990 --> 00:47:08,058
You have to raise your price.
1560
00:47:08,058 --> 00:47:12,262
Now again, Robyn, I are not accountants,
1561
00:47:12,796 --> 00:47:13,130
Robert,
1562
00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:13,597
I don't know
1563
00:47:13,597 --> 00:47:15,399
your business model or whatever.
1564
00:47:15,399 --> 00:47:17,000
But in the psychiatrist's.
1565
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,602
Yeah, not yeah.
1566
00:47:18,602 --> 00:47:19,503
There's there a lot of us,
1567
00:47:19,503 --> 00:47:20,971
we're not doctors.
1568
00:47:20,971 --> 00:47:21,371
No.
1569
00:47:21,371 --> 00:47:24,675
In my, my opinion is only my opinion
1570
00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:26,977
is that this really, really
1571
00:47:27,744 --> 00:47:28,445
that was one thing
1572
00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:30,013
that I was stuck on as a young guy
1573
00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:32,583
thinking that to 75 is the max
1574
00:47:33,250 --> 00:47:34,885
because that's what the big guys
1575
00:47:34,885 --> 00:47:36,153
and that's what the, you know,
1576
00:47:36,153 --> 00:47:39,356
the high end guys are getting even then
1577
00:47:39,590 --> 00:47:41,959
I'm sure it was way further on
1578
00:47:41,959 --> 00:47:42,726
than we thought it was.
1579
00:47:42,726 --> 00:47:43,794
So that's one of them.
1580
00:47:43,794 --> 00:47:45,262
Every training,
1581
00:47:45,262 --> 00:47:48,365
almost every training I do, somebody will
1582
00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:50,067
whisper in my ear,
1583
00:47:50,067 --> 00:47:52,202
You can't get more than 250 this time.
1584
00:47:52,569 --> 00:47:54,605
Yeah. Every single.
1585
00:47:54,972 --> 00:47:56,573
And there's always a guy in the back
1586
00:47:57,708 --> 00:48:00,177
who's charging seven.
1587
00:48:00,177 --> 00:48:01,879
Yes. Yeah.
1588
00:48:01,879 --> 00:48:03,380
Always, always.
1589
00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:05,482
There's a little bit of a B.S. factor.
1590
00:48:05,482 --> 00:48:06,884
I'm, I'm, I'm
1591
00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:08,886
I will let's let's be honest.
1592
00:48:08,886 --> 00:48:10,854
I mean there are sometimes
1593
00:48:10,854 --> 00:48:11,688
or there's
1594
00:48:11,688 --> 00:48:13,557
regionally there's that guy
1595
00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:15,692
I'm making doing eight bucks a foot,
1596
00:48:15,692 --> 00:48:17,060
but the guy's living in Beverly
1597
00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:18,528
Hills versus
1598
00:48:18,528 --> 00:48:18,829
a guy
1599
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:20,530
making four bucks a foot in Mississippi.
1600
00:48:20,530 --> 00:48:21,798
Might be the same thing,
1601
00:48:21,798 --> 00:48:22,266
you know what I mean?
1602
00:48:22,266 --> 00:48:24,234
So there is that to account for.
1603
00:48:24,234 --> 00:48:25,936
But in your area,
1604
00:48:25,936 --> 00:48:27,337
you know, it's all relative.
1605
00:48:27,337 --> 00:48:28,772
I got two more.
1606
00:48:28,772 --> 00:48:30,340
One is
1607
00:48:32,743 --> 00:48:34,578
Cincy medallions.
1608
00:48:34,578 --> 00:48:36,513
I thought that would be more of a thing
1609
00:48:36,513 --> 00:48:37,281
by now.
1610
00:48:37,281 --> 00:48:38,615
Men, when they first came out to see
1611
00:48:38,615 --> 00:48:40,083
and see the router,
1612
00:48:40,083 --> 00:48:40,717
the medallions
1613
00:48:40,717 --> 00:48:43,120
that you could buy, the all the the boy
1614
00:48:44,554 --> 00:48:45,555
growing up the.
1615
00:48:45,555 --> 00:48:47,257
Oshkosh medallion was
1616
00:48:48,325 --> 00:48:50,394
the greatest medallion of all time.
1617
00:48:50,394 --> 00:48:52,429
It came with everything. You need it?
1618
00:48:52,429 --> 00:48:52,863
Yeah.
1619
00:48:52,863 --> 00:48:53,363
The bits
1620
00:48:53,363 --> 00:48:54,932
inside the template and everything.
1621
00:48:54,932 --> 00:48:57,034
Template, the bits, everything.
1622
00:48:57,034 --> 00:48:58,402
I thought that was like,
1623
00:48:58,402 --> 00:49:00,137
wow, this is the direction in history.
1624
00:49:00,137 --> 00:49:01,204
There's going to be a lot of these.
1625
00:49:01,204 --> 00:49:03,173
It's going to be very common to do these.
1626
00:49:03,173 --> 00:49:04,007
And it really still
1627
00:49:04,007 --> 00:49:04,675
is a small,
1628
00:49:04,675 --> 00:49:08,078
small, small part of the industry.
1629
00:49:08,078 --> 00:49:08,979
So
1630
00:49:11,081 --> 00:49:13,283
that really died quick.
1631
00:49:13,283 --> 00:49:13,951
It did.
1632
00:49:13,951 --> 00:49:15,686
And they look
1633
00:49:15,686 --> 00:49:16,787
dated a little bit
1634
00:49:16,787 --> 00:49:18,722
when you see them flaws right now.
1635
00:49:18,722 --> 00:49:20,524
So and here's the thing to do.
1636
00:49:20,524 --> 00:49:23,727
You remember, did you have because
1637
00:49:23,727 --> 00:49:26,263
Tom Peter got me a set
1638
00:49:26,263 --> 00:49:28,732
that I used to keep in a a big tube
1639
00:49:29,933 --> 00:49:31,735
and they were like they were like
1640
00:49:31,735 --> 00:49:35,005
a vinyl version of the medallion.
1641
00:49:35,005 --> 00:49:36,606
So you get during an estimate.
1642
00:49:36,606 --> 00:49:37,841
Oh, yes,
1643
00:49:37,841 --> 00:49:38,342
take it out
1644
00:49:38,342 --> 00:49:39,843
and throw it on the floor and go, look,
1645
00:49:39,843 --> 00:49:41,011
I'll give you this.
1646
00:49:41,011 --> 00:49:42,813
Yeah, put that out on the floor.
1647
00:49:42,813 --> 00:49:44,681
And once I started doing that,
1648
00:49:44,681 --> 00:49:45,282
I thought,
1649
00:49:45,282 --> 00:49:46,350
I'm going to sell Medallion
1650
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:47,284
with every job.
1651
00:49:47,284 --> 00:49:50,687
Yeah. And, and
1652
00:49:52,622 --> 00:49:54,324
here's the thing too, is
1653
00:49:54,324 --> 00:49:54,791
with, with,
1654
00:49:54,791 --> 00:50:00,530
with these laser cut products,
1655
00:50:00,530 --> 00:50:02,733
they're so perfect that
1656
00:50:03,967 --> 00:50:05,068
there's something to be said for
1657
00:50:05,068 --> 00:50:05,836
hand-cut for
1658
00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:08,705
even if it is not as perfect, as a,
1659
00:50:08,739 --> 00:50:11,441
as a perfect CMC router.
1660
00:50:11,441 --> 00:50:13,710
And it's like if you see a horror movie
1661
00:50:13,810 --> 00:50:15,212
back in the thirties
1662
00:50:15,212 --> 00:50:16,713
and forties or whatever it would,
1663
00:50:16,713 --> 00:50:17,047
you know,
1664
00:50:17,047 --> 00:50:17,914
it was black and white,
1665
00:50:17,914 --> 00:50:19,483
it was grainy, it wasn't
1666
00:50:19,483 --> 00:50:21,618
there was no phenomenal special effects.
1667
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:24,421
But they, they just worked,
1668
00:50:24,421 --> 00:50:25,022
you know what I mean?
1669
00:50:25,022 --> 00:50:26,323
They they got in there
1670
00:50:26,323 --> 00:50:27,457
really, really scary
1671
00:50:27,457 --> 00:50:28,959
whatever versus today,
1672
00:50:28,959 --> 00:50:32,162
like with CGI and all the special effects
1673
00:50:32,162 --> 00:50:33,530
and how they can make it.
1674
00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:34,965
They can make anything now,
1675
00:50:34,965 --> 00:50:37,034
but it doesn't have the same feel.
1676
00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:38,402
And I think there's something
1677
00:50:38,402 --> 00:50:41,338
to be said about and cut for is
1678
00:50:41,338 --> 00:50:42,873
even if they're not as fancy
1679
00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:45,475
as some of their scenes cut medallions.
1680
00:50:45,475 --> 00:50:46,209
But anyhow,
1681
00:50:46,209 --> 00:50:47,044
I thought medallions
1682
00:50:47,044 --> 00:50:47,310
would be
1683
00:50:47,310 --> 00:50:49,146
a real bigger thing than they are.
1684
00:50:49,146 --> 00:50:51,481
And my last my last myth
1685
00:50:51,481 --> 00:50:52,682
that I thought is
1686
00:50:52,682 --> 00:50:54,251
that you have to do this alone.
1687
00:50:54,251 --> 00:50:56,286
You're on your own running a
1688
00:50:56,286 --> 00:50:57,454
and starting a business
1689
00:50:57,454 --> 00:50:58,221
and running a business.
1690
00:50:58,221 --> 00:51:00,757
And, you know, because,
1691
00:51:01,024 --> 00:51:02,059
you know, years ago, where
1692
00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:03,160
where do you get any help? You're out.
1693
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,728
You're doing this on your own.
1694
00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:07,531
And I'm sure that's a myth.
1695
00:51:08,532 --> 00:51:09,566
There are people
1696
00:51:09,566 --> 00:51:10,700
that there's
1697
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:12,569
mentoring programs out there.
1698
00:51:12,569 --> 00:51:13,537
There are people there.
1699
00:51:13,537 --> 00:51:14,638
There's organizations
1700
00:51:14,638 --> 00:51:17,040
that will help mentor small businesses.
1701
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,876
I wrote down a couple of one is score
1702
00:51:19,876 --> 00:51:22,245
sc0re is you can Google.
1703
00:51:22,245 --> 00:51:24,948
There is like 300 chapters in America.
1704
00:51:24,948 --> 00:51:27,617
Another one is the SBA, DC
1705
00:51:27,617 --> 00:51:29,686
Small Business Development Centers
1706
00:51:29,686 --> 00:51:31,788
that you can find that get some help,
1707
00:51:31,788 --> 00:51:33,790
get some mentoring on,
1708
00:51:33,790 --> 00:51:35,092
you know, so there's
1709
00:51:35,092 --> 00:51:36,493
that's something that I would have
1710
00:51:36,493 --> 00:51:38,829
when I was a 25 year old kid, man,
1711
00:51:38,829 --> 00:51:39,463
I didn't
1712
00:51:39,463 --> 00:51:40,397
I didn't know
1713
00:51:40,397 --> 00:51:42,032
anybody that would really do
1714
00:51:42,032 --> 00:51:43,400
that, you know, other than, you know,
1715
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,468
my father in law, whatever,
1716
00:51:44,468 --> 00:51:46,503
whatever little knowledge that he wasn't,
1717
00:51:46,503 --> 00:51:47,204
you know,
1718
00:51:48,638 --> 00:51:50,140
held a lot of help.
1719
00:51:50,173 --> 00:51:50,707
But,
1720
00:51:52,142 --> 00:51:52,542
you know,
1721
00:51:52,542 --> 00:51:54,211
if there was organizations out there
1722
00:51:54,211 --> 00:51:55,245
that were like that,
1723
00:51:55,245 --> 00:51:56,746
then I would have been
1724
00:51:56,746 --> 00:51:57,481
what a huge
1725
00:51:57,481 --> 00:51:59,583
why not take advantage of these?
1726
00:51:59,583 --> 00:52:00,917
Some of the most successful people
1727
00:52:00,917 --> 00:52:02,285
I know in this industry today,
1728
00:52:03,453 --> 00:52:04,254
I have
1729
00:52:04,254 --> 00:52:06,123
you have youth mentors
1730
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:07,991
and have become mentors.
1731
00:52:07,991 --> 00:52:09,226
So yeah.
1732
00:52:09,226 --> 00:52:11,428
So just maybe keep that in mind.
1733
00:52:11,428 --> 00:52:18,301
Now, I don't have the time to be a mentor
1734
00:52:19,503 --> 00:52:20,937
to anybody.
1735
00:52:22,105 --> 00:52:23,640
You know, I but,
1736
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,009
but in another circumstances
1737
00:52:26,009 --> 00:52:27,277
I would, I would
1738
00:52:27,277 --> 00:52:29,479
I would probably would enjoy that.
1739
00:52:29,479 --> 00:52:30,780
Maybe you could point somebody
1740
00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:31,748
in the right direction,
1741
00:52:31,748 --> 00:52:33,850
just like you just did.
1742
00:52:33,850 --> 00:52:35,285
Yeah. There you go.
1743
00:52:35,285 --> 00:52:37,354
There you go. Yeah, that's it.
1744
00:52:37,354 --> 00:52:39,289
Because I have a feeling I would say,
1745
00:52:39,289 --> 00:52:39,489
well,
1746
00:52:39,489 --> 00:52:40,824
how come you didn't do this yourself?
1747
00:52:40,824 --> 00:52:42,926
You let me do this for you now
1748
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,294
or get your act together
1749
00:52:44,294 --> 00:52:46,530
before you come to me. There it is.
1750
00:52:46,530 --> 00:52:47,230
You know,
1751
00:52:47,230 --> 00:52:48,465
that's what people don't understand
1752
00:52:48,465 --> 00:52:48,832
about you.
1753
00:52:48,832 --> 00:52:50,066
You're a giver.
1754
00:52:50,066 --> 00:52:51,234
It's a s, right?
1755
00:52:51,234 --> 00:52:52,736
You are a giver, man.
1756
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:54,571
All right.
1757
00:52:54,571 --> 00:52:55,639
So we'll hear some myths.
1758
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:57,307
And we have you pointed out
1759
00:52:57,307 --> 00:52:59,075
with one time, Rob, that with this,
1760
00:52:59,075 --> 00:53:01,077
our generation has probably seen the
1761
00:53:01,077 --> 00:53:02,012
some of the most changes
1762
00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:03,580
in this industry.
1763
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,381
If you look at where
1764
00:53:04,381 --> 00:53:05,315
we started our career
1765
00:53:05,315 --> 00:53:06,883
to where it is right now,
1766
00:53:06,883 --> 00:53:08,218
who would have thunk
1767
00:53:08,451 --> 00:53:10,053
all the changes that we would see?
1768
00:53:10,053 --> 00:53:11,388
And and so
1769
00:53:11,388 --> 00:53:12,923
and the other thing is
1770
00:53:12,923 --> 00:53:15,125
it is always evolving. This is ongoing.
1771
00:53:15,625 --> 00:53:16,927
And it'll be interesting
1772
00:53:16,927 --> 00:53:18,895
even ten years from now,
1773
00:53:18,895 --> 00:53:20,096
the changes in the industry
1774
00:53:20,096 --> 00:53:23,533
that will be out there.
1775
00:53:23,533 --> 00:53:24,301
All right.
1776
00:53:24,734 --> 00:53:26,703
You got it. So there you go.
1777
00:53:26,703 --> 00:53:27,571
Thank you very much.
1778
00:53:27,571 --> 00:53:28,672
It's been another episode of On
1779
00:53:28,672 --> 00:53:30,140
the Floor is Waiting Room.
1780
00:53:30,140 --> 00:53:32,442
We stay tuned for another episode.
1781
00:53:32,442 --> 00:53:39,149
Oh.