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Hello, this is Wayne Highlander.
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I'm national sales
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manager for Bona Adhesives.
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And I'm Rob Johnson from Bona training.
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And this is another episode
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of On the Floors with Wayne and Rob.
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So, Rob, how are you doing today?
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Pretty good, Wayne.
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Pretty good. A little tired.
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We took some Spork guys up and saw
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Buffalo Bills game
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and it was a great
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weekend, Had a lot of fun,
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but I'm feeling it a little bit.
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How was your weekend?
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What did you do this weekend?
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It's good.
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I had a lowkey weekend by design,
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so I actually
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I the first weekend
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I sat down
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and got to watch some football.
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So my wife went to yoga and
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I went and watched.
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In fact, I got,
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I got a little bit of trouble
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for the weekend.
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She went to yoga and,
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and I, and I are so happy.
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I don't, I'm
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not often really very content,
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you know when it's like I'm just happy
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and just knowing that I had the day
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that I could sit down
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and watch football, I'd be the first full
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sun that I've ever been able
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to do that this year. And
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so I went out to the Cubs and I got
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I think we had some nice cheese
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spread in there
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and these really nice crackers.
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So I made myself some
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and I sit down in my underwear
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and watching football by myself and
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admiring the scar
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on my knee from my my recent surgery.
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I know we get you know what?
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There you go. Yeah, that's right.
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We have to remind
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everybody that Wayne
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did play a little ball in his state
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in knee
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surgery, wasn't from
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ball, was from doing flaws, but.
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yeah, but I just can't run.
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Ring the bell now. Kenyan.
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So that's.
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So I'm eating the crackers and I'm.
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I'm happy and I'm watching the game
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until my wife comes home
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and she asked me
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what I'm doing eating the crackers that
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that are for our guests.
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Next Wednesday we're
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having people over to the house
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And you went made a special trip
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to this place
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we call the Yuppie Pleasure Dome.
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It's it's a
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really very nice high end food.
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It's not your regular supermarket
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and it's a long way away.
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And she went there
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for the special occasion.
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And I'm sitting there in my fat butt
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and I got the crumbs all over my t shirt
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feeling pretty guilty.
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other than that,
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it was a good weekend, man.
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So, Rob,
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were you wearing a shirt
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when you did this or eating the.
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Yeah, the crumbs and stuff
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right off of your chest.
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That's what
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gave me away was the black shirt
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and the cheese on the side of my mouth.
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But I was
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they there are great crackers,
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nice spread.
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You know,
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I think that she was
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she really got the good stuff.
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But wasn't for me.
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So Rob we are going to talk about
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doing the re coats
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and maintenance, right?
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Yes, sir. Let's go.
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It should be right down
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your alley, buddy.
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You want to lead it off now?
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Why would I leading while you're are.
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Wait, Why? Why don't you do it?
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All right, I say I'll lead it off then.
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Okay, Let's leave it off at some
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some bad stories. Okay.
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I had three jobs
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that I did professionally that were
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that I had just had three do overs
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in my career that I had to take for free.
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That you're going to say
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you did three jobs professionally.
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That was more than I gave you credit for.
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Your career.
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Good one. There.
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You got it
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right on top of your game today.
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Well, anyways,
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all three of those jobs
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were screening coats.
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Okay.
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And all three of those jobs
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were done on a certain
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oil soap
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type product
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that I didn't realize was there.
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And, you know, we screened the floor.
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Everything looked good.
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A nice white powder. It was clean.
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And one, two weeks later,
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we got callbacks and
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all those little screening
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codes turned into a free redo, free
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standing up. So,
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yeah, I think we have
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to talk about records.
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I see a lot of people schools coming in
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and they've had some issues
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with Rico and everything, so
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I have to tell everybody
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how to start taking their time
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and be successful with those records.
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You told me something
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15 years ago that I never forget.
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I, I was so impressive to me
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that I wrote it down in my book.
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That's stand still.
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So you made it to the book?
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I'm in your book.
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You made it to the book.
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I cannot believe
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you just told everybody that.
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That's I feel
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privileged.
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Thank you very much.
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Well, yeah, but wait a minute.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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I take that back.
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What would you write about me?
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Well, what I said was the quote
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that you told me was,
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when considering route re codes,
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there's
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you need to say to
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yourself, is the juice worth the squeeze?
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All I do love the air.
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Well, anybody who knows me
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knows that's that's that's a good quote.
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I love that.
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That's a yes. In other words.
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In other words,
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is it going to be worth the effort
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getting into this?
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The worst thing that I can
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I see when guys get into a RICO
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is that they get too far into a job
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when they realize
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it's a it's a problem
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and they can't back out.
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That's a scary scenario to be in.
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So let's talk
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about how you set these records
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up, the expectations,
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the due diligence ahead of time.
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You know, look,
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when guys are busy, a lot of guys are,
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you know, concerned about doing records.
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You don't want to do records.
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It can't be a good moneymaker.
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But I think there are
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some parameters around it.
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And let's talk about some of those.
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Well, the
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thing about
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records, I mean,
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if half of your business was records,
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you'd be a rich man.
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There's a lot of money in Rico's
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The Tunnels, B, maybe.
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Rico
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I think one of the things that I see
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in the school
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sometimes is guys are afraid to charge
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that good money for the records.
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Yep.
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And then I see other guys
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who come to the class
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who are charging amazing prices for Rico,
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and they love them.
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They want to do them all day
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because, you know, it's an easier job.
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the juices definite be worth the squeeze
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when you're getting the right money
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and you're you get the process down.
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You know, Robert,
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I could not agree with you more.
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I think there's there's too
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things that happened during RICO
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that it's been my experience
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that that I see
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one is that guys think to themselves
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if I'm charging I'm
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just gonna throw a number out there
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$3 a square foot to sand and finish.
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How can I possibly charge $3
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a square square foot for Rico?
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And I don't
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like the thought process because,
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you know, for some people
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just not having the machines in there
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and not having the noise,
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not having
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does this, it's worth it to them
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just to get it done,
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you know,
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especially we're in
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some of these fabulous homes
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and these people have money.
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I think, yes, you have to charge for it.
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And and the other thought process
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I see sometimes is
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is guys are very cavalier about it.
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Well, I'll just come in here
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and and screen it.
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I don't have to do anything else.
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I'll just green the floors in an hour
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and I'll put the finish on
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and that's, that's a screening coat
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and I think you have to look at it
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a little bit differently in my mind.
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I think
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you also have to charge accordingly.
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I think you have to do your due
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diligence up ahead of time.
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You know what's on that floor.
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That's a contaminant
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that's not going to allow me
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finish the bond.
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And that's an investigation
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process that starts
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with you and conversations
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with the homeowner.
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And I always say that I believe
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about half of what I'm told
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and maybe not that much.
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And it might be for various reasons.
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It's not that the homeowner necessarily
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trying to conceal anything from us
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that maybe they don't know
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or maybe they're embarrassed to tell you
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because they know they did something
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they shouldn't have done.
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But those things need to be
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gone through and
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and testing needs to be done.
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You agree?
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Even if I had tested
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those jobs that went bad on me,
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I would have
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it would have saved my
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saved my bacon on those jobs.
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And I didn't test anything.
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My grandfather had an old saying, Robbie,
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when the powder is white,
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she's good to go.
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It's nice and clean and you're good.
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And the problem is,
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is some of the acrylics
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and some of the oil soaps and whatnot,
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they buff white.
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So you do think it's
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clean and it's not contaminated
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and everything.
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So testing, it's
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one of the things that we talk about
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in the two day and the four day.
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Any records,
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even if we're doing one day quick
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record seminars
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and things, testing is huge.
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And with me now
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it's turned into two tests.
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One, I want to test the floor,
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the finish that's already there.
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Okay.
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Because if that finishes no good,
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if we put our finish on top of it,
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when finish dries, it pulls tight.
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So it's going to pull from that area,
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It's going to find weak spots
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and you're going to create peeling
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that might not be there, but was kind of
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bubbling and waiting
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to explode underneath.
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So you want to test the finish
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that you're going to be attached
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and your finish, too.
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And then the second test is going to be
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actually putting some
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your finish
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to make sure that everything
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is compatible.
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So it's really a
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two step testing process.
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Was it your uncle that told you that
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my going to turn to your grandfather?
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Don't you think that
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I look back in the old time
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sometimes I think and maybe it's just,
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you know,
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romanticizing the trade,
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but didn't
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it seem like it was a lot
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easier back then?
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It is today in some regards, absolutely.
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Everything was easier back then.
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I think that I mean,
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we got better tools nowadays.
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We got better products
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nowadays, you know.
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But
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but I think the demands are
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more than they were.
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I think the speed of the game is,
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you know, there's more competition.
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And I think I think the game has changed
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some sometimes.
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I remember with my uncle,
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he started every morning, you know,
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we go to his house
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in the morning and, you know,
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we have breakfast or we'd go out
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and have breakfast in the morning.
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Before we went out,
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we'd actually go to a restaurant
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and sit down and have breakfast
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before we went out to the job.
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And then
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as I became a contractor,
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I couldn't imagine
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being able to take the time to do that,
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you know?
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So we'd say, Yes, we wait,
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let's back up a little bit on this.
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I just said everything
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was much easier back then.
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It was absolutely not much easier back
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then as far as the labor went.
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I mean, as far as the equipment
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that they had to use
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and the Naylor's and, you know,
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that was definitely
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things have definitely got easier for us
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with the changes in equipment and tools.
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So I just wanted to clarify,
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I think the customers
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were a little easier back then.
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Yeah, I think,
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you know, well, listen,
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I remember in California, in the
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you know,
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when the
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when the housing boom went,
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man, now your house that you bought for
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450,000 is worth 490,000.
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You know, every,
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every house went up exponentially.
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And now you go into a 1200 square
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foot home that cost some $800,000.
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And, you know,
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now it's just not now it's the Taj Mahal,
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you know,
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I mean,
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because they spend
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$800,000 for that house
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now, everything is man,
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it's got to be absolutely perfect
402
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because this massive investment
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that they make
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when in reality it's 1200, that's
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1200 square foot home, You know,
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I mean,
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it's a track home, but the games changed.
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I think that that raised the
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the stress level on it
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a little bit as well.
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So testing for
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these products
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that these contaminants that
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that that are on the floor.
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Why why doesn't screening alone
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get them off
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I mean on the floor be explosive
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go there and screen the floor.
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So once you talk about that
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a little bit, Rob,
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where screening alone does not work.
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Well,
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the reason
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that you want to be testing is,
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like I said, to make sure
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that everything's going to be compatible.
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The thing
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is, too, is
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where you're going to do that test.
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You wouldn't test underneath
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a carpet, you wouldn't test in a closet,
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and of course you wouldn't test
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right out
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in the middle of the floor or sightline.
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But you do want to test in an area
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that's maybe off to the side.
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But, you know, is being maintained
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like the rest
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of the floor where people
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sometimes aren't
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going to do their maintenance
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under carpeting or in a
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in a closet or something like that.
444
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So when you do those tests,
445
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that's where you want to be doing
446
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the tests,
447
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the areas
448
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that you want to be doing, the test in,
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what's the test?
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How do you test?
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GROSS Well, we call a crosshatch test
452
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where we lightly take a razor knife
453
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and we do a quarter
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inch checkerboard type
455
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configuration.
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And you're only talking
457
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about the size of a playing card,
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you know, just a small area.
459
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You're not going to take your razor
460
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and go down into the wood.
461
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You're just going to lightly score
462
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the top of the finish. I said with that
463
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quarter inch squares
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on a piece of duct tape on their heat
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that duct taped up with your fingers
466
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and then give it a good call.
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Yeah.
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I think technically now
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they're calling
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when you do that on a job
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site is calling it a field hatch test.
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I believe I could be wrong on that.
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But yes, you're right about that.
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But even not a cross ax test
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anymore, it's a
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you know, it's
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I believe it's called a field test.
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It's not because a cross stitch,
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I think technology has to be done
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in a lab or something.
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I could be wrong, but I think I'm right.
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But to your point,
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even before you get to crosshatch test
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or a field test done,
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you can also take what we tested for.
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What are the what are the the no goes?
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It would be acrylic, right?
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Some of these products
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have acrylic on them.
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Acrylic waxes, paint wax and acrylic.
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One test
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you can do for acrylic,
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You can take a half ammonia and half
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bath water
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and do the tests and
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let it sit on the floor for a while
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and for about a minute
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and then kind of run your fingernails,
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do it as an agitator.
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If it starts to milky white
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and starts to peel,
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you know, that's acrylic
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and that's one test you can do.
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So what about disclaimers?
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I mean, a lot of guys will say,
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well, listen, I'll give them a disclaimer
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and what have you.
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I did
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talk to one guy
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who does something that
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was interesting where, you know,
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he tells them,
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this is my price to do this,
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this upgrade.
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00:14:54,860 --> 00:14:58,030
Enrico and
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I will do everything,
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all my due diligence, do testing,
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what have you.
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But we cannot guarantee
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that it's going to
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is not going to appeal.
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We might if we don't know absolutely
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what's on this for
524
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there's a chance that it may peel.
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If it does, it's
526
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going to cause you
527
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to have to say and refinish the floor.
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And this is my cost to say and refinish
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if we have to go down that road,
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I will deduct the cost of of the screen.
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Enrico, you see what I'm saying?
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Then his normal
533
00:15:27,359 --> 00:15:28,294
square foot price,
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that's $3 a square foot.
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00:15:30,496 --> 00:15:31,330
He puts in the bid
536
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at like five bucks a square foot
537
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so he doesn't get hurt.
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00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:39,204
That makes sense
539
00:15:39,204 --> 00:15:40,539
that it's not a bad way to go.
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00:15:40,539 --> 00:15:41,874
I mean, I think, you know,
541
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you have to have
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the conversation upfront.
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And we talk about
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being transparent and expectations
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00:15:47,713 --> 00:15:48,280
and everything.
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And I think you have to put it out there
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upfront first.
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Everybody's got to have
549
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a little skin in the game.
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Yeah, that's the deal here.
551
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And then after my third failure,
552
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that's how I started to write up
553
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my quotes.
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My estimates
555
00:16:00,326 --> 00:16:03,595
was, Look, I charge this amount to screen
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00:16:03,595 --> 00:16:05,064
and coat your floor
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00:16:05,064 --> 00:16:07,399
and I charge this amount to Sander floor.
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00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:08,867
So if it fails,
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00:16:08,867 --> 00:16:11,870
I'll come back and give you a of
560
00:16:12,004 --> 00:16:15,207
a slight discount on resetting the floor.
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00:16:15,274 --> 00:16:17,242
If it doesn't, then we're all good to go.
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00:16:17,242 --> 00:16:18,644
But that was really that was,
563
00:16:18,644 --> 00:16:19,111
you know,
564
00:16:19,111 --> 00:16:19,745
that was back
565
00:16:19,745 --> 00:16:21,447
a long 30 years ago
566
00:16:21,447 --> 00:16:23,382
when we started to do that
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00:16:23,382 --> 00:16:24,783
before we're testing
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00:16:24,783 --> 00:16:25,651
and things like that.
569
00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:29,021
So but you do want to have everybody
570
00:16:29,121 --> 00:16:30,189
everybody's involved.
571
00:16:30,189 --> 00:16:31,690
Everybody has some skin in the game
572
00:16:31,690 --> 00:16:34,126
and then you're not going to get burned.
573
00:16:34,126 --> 00:16:36,495
Actually, in the school, our school
574
00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:39,498
workbook, we have an actual
575
00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:41,700
disclaimer type of contract
576
00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:42,334
that, you know,
577
00:16:42,334 --> 00:16:43,535
you can kind of fill in the blanks
578
00:16:43,535 --> 00:16:45,471
with your own company and everything
579
00:16:45,471 --> 00:16:47,006
and write that,
580
00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:51,910
write that contract up just to, you know,
581
00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,646
help you out so you don't get burned.
582
00:16:54,646 --> 00:16:55,147
Yep.
583
00:16:55,147 --> 00:16:59,018
Another challenge doing three coats is,
584
00:16:59,118 --> 00:16:59,551
you know,
585
00:16:59,551 --> 00:17:01,253
you're dealing with a cured finish now
586
00:17:01,253 --> 00:17:02,121
and I'll get into aluminum
587
00:17:02,121 --> 00:17:03,422
oxides in a minute but
588
00:17:03,422 --> 00:17:05,657
but say it's a polyurethane four is cured
589
00:17:05,657 --> 00:17:07,426
been cured for years and years
590
00:17:07,426 --> 00:17:08,527
now you need to get a bite
591
00:17:08,527 --> 00:17:10,462
into that floor
592
00:17:10,462 --> 00:17:12,998
with the with the with the screen
593
00:17:12,998 --> 00:17:14,566
or whatever abrasive you're using.
594
00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:15,968
And oftentimes
595
00:17:15,968 --> 00:17:17,136
you have to get pretty aggressive
596
00:17:17,136 --> 00:17:18,804
to get the necessary bite.
597
00:17:18,804 --> 00:17:19,638
And of course,
598
00:17:19,638 --> 00:17:22,641
now there's a concern with the
599
00:17:22,808 --> 00:17:24,610
with getting swirl marks.
600
00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:24,977
Okay.
601
00:17:24,977 --> 00:17:26,111
So that's another challenge,
602
00:17:26,111 --> 00:17:27,479
especially going into the high sheen.
603
00:17:27,479 --> 00:17:28,080
That was
604
00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,114
especially because the can
605
00:17:29,114 --> 00:17:30,549
lighten the ceiling.
606
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:32,584
So in that case,
607
00:17:32,584 --> 00:17:33,886
if you're going to go down that road,
608
00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:35,888
I think it's smart to
609
00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:36,822
if you're going to have to go with,
610
00:17:36,822 --> 00:17:38,424
say, a 120 grid because it's a
611
00:17:38,424 --> 00:17:39,124
you know, it's a four
612
00:17:39,124 --> 00:17:40,926
has been down for years and years.
613
00:17:40,926 --> 00:17:42,561
You need to come back behind that
614
00:17:42,561 --> 00:17:43,629
with a final screen.
615
00:17:43,629 --> 00:17:45,030
And I in any case,
616
00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:47,099
I like to finish up with a maroon pad
617
00:17:47,099 --> 00:17:48,567
or a conditioning pad,
618
00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:50,569
which is about a 320 grit,
619
00:17:50,569 --> 00:17:53,205
which will soften the scratches more.
620
00:17:53,272 --> 00:17:54,373
Hey, I got a question.
621
00:17:54,373 --> 00:17:55,808
I can't get the side of my head.
622
00:17:55,808 --> 00:17:58,977
The last podcast you said that
623
00:17:58,977 --> 00:18:01,980
you officiated a wedding.
624
00:18:02,214 --> 00:18:02,748
Yeah.
625
00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:04,249
Was this legal to were
626
00:18:04,249 --> 00:18:06,852
this was this a legal wedding?
627
00:18:06,852 --> 00:18:07,553
Yes.
628
00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:09,221
I'll have you know, I'm a minister now.
629
00:18:09,221 --> 00:18:10,189
You.
630
00:18:10,189 --> 00:18:12,124
You are not a minister.
631
00:18:12,124 --> 00:18:14,393
I can show you the proof.
632
00:18:14,393 --> 00:18:16,862
You. I actually my I didn't even do it.
633
00:18:16,862 --> 00:18:17,362
I have to say,
634
00:18:17,362 --> 00:18:18,230
my wife went online
635
00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:19,064
and did it all for me.
636
00:18:19,064 --> 00:18:20,199
I think it took like 15 minutes,
637
00:18:20,199 --> 00:18:21,934
so it took the wind out of my sails.
638
00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:23,268
And that makes me a minister
639
00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:25,170
when anybody could do
640
00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:26,238
in 15 minutes online.
641
00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:28,574
But it's legal and binding. Yep.
642
00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:30,943
And it's with daughters.
643
00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:32,277
Or is this a new thing?
644
00:18:32,277 --> 00:18:33,545
He's starting a church
645
00:18:33,545 --> 00:18:35,047
and he's his church or something.
646
00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:36,115
Or, you know,
647
00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:37,783
it went straight to my head.
648
00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:39,151
It really did.
649
00:18:39,151 --> 00:18:40,953
That You don't
650
00:18:40,953 --> 00:18:43,055
never give an ugly guy a compliment
651
00:18:43,055 --> 00:18:45,557
if you're a woman
652
00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:47,392
and never give a guy with no talent.
653
00:18:47,392 --> 00:18:48,260
They know
654
00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:50,095
just a little bit of credibility
655
00:18:50,095 --> 00:18:51,763
because it went right to my head.
656
00:18:51,763 --> 00:18:52,564
I started thinking
657
00:18:52,564 --> 00:18:54,233
of all the weddings I could do
658
00:18:54,233 --> 00:18:56,368
and I could forgive people sins
659
00:18:56,368 --> 00:18:58,403
and and all kinds of stuff.
660
00:18:58,403 --> 00:18:59,905
so you're you're into this
661
00:18:59,905 --> 00:19:00,973
and you're heavier.
662
00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:03,408
You're like that new HBO show.
663
00:19:03,408 --> 00:19:04,243
You could be
664
00:19:04,243 --> 00:19:05,711
some of the Righteous Gemstones
665
00:19:05,711 --> 00:19:07,212
type thing.
666
00:19:07,212 --> 00:19:09,148
No, I got over it in the weekend
667
00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:12,151
and go back to work, so.
668
00:19:12,317 --> 00:19:13,285
Well, you know, my daughter's
669
00:19:13,285 --> 00:19:15,053
getting married in May.
670
00:19:15,053 --> 00:19:17,122
Your daughter is. Yeah. Yeah.
671
00:19:17,122 --> 00:19:18,056
First of all, first,
672
00:19:18,056 --> 00:19:19,558
I'm going to check to see if she has a
673
00:19:19,558 --> 00:19:21,693
I'm going to check see if she has a mr..
674
00:19:21,693 --> 00:19:22,928
I mean,
675
00:19:22,928 --> 00:19:23,862
this could be a good way
676
00:19:23,862 --> 00:19:26,565
to get a gift out of you.
677
00:19:26,665 --> 00:19:29,501
Yeah,
678
00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:31,036
that is my gift, Leigh.
679
00:19:31,036 --> 00:19:34,306
Showing up.
680
00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:36,341
I mean, I got to pay for my plane ticket
681
00:19:36,341 --> 00:19:39,545
and do the work and then get a gift.
682
00:19:39,611 --> 00:19:40,312
So what was.
683
00:19:40,312 --> 00:19:41,446
It was one of those things
684
00:19:41,446 --> 00:19:42,147
that I hear that,
685
00:19:42,147 --> 00:19:42,447
you know,
686
00:19:42,447 --> 00:19:44,149
you kind of got the calling,
687
00:19:44,149 --> 00:19:45,617
that kind of thing.
688
00:19:45,617 --> 00:19:47,386
No, they just asked
689
00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:48,954
if I could do it, actually.
690
00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:49,821
Okay, I'll tell you, it's
691
00:19:49,821 --> 00:19:51,056
kind of funny because,
692
00:19:51,056 --> 00:19:51,323
you know,
693
00:19:51,323 --> 00:19:51,690
they know
694
00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:54,693
that I'm also a huge movie fan and
695
00:19:54,693 --> 00:19:56,828
and a great movie critic.
696
00:19:56,828 --> 00:19:58,630
And
697
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:59,865
knowing that they
698
00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:01,833
they sent me this little video.
699
00:20:01,833 --> 00:20:02,868
They said, gosh, we sat
700
00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:04,169
we saw this fantastic movie.
701
00:20:04,169 --> 00:20:05,370
Have you seen it?
702
00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:07,573
It's called The Officiant starring.
703
00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:08,540
Then it had, you know,
704
00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:09,575
starring Wayne High later.
705
00:20:09,575 --> 00:20:10,108
What happened then?
706
00:20:10,108 --> 00:20:10,776
They had a whole story
707
00:20:10,776 --> 00:20:11,810
about themselves, everything.
708
00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:13,212
And that was them asking me
709
00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:15,180
to be the efficient at their wedding,
710
00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:18,784
which was pretty, pretty nice. So.
711
00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:19,451
Yeah.
712
00:20:19,451 --> 00:20:20,619
And you are.
713
00:20:20,619 --> 00:20:22,721
And it's man, you are.
714
00:20:22,721 --> 00:20:25,490
There are many ladies, Wayne Islander
715
00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:29,261
fishermen, corporate stooge
716
00:20:29,361 --> 00:20:31,463
minister.
717
00:20:31,463 --> 00:20:34,733
yes, I,
718
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,335
I don't get emotional very often
719
00:20:36,335 --> 00:20:37,669
and you know, so whatever, you know,
720
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:39,504
I'm practicing this thing
721
00:20:39,504 --> 00:20:41,873
because it's one thing doing a speech,
722
00:20:41,873 --> 00:20:43,408
you know, at work.
723
00:20:43,408 --> 00:20:44,276
It's another thing
724
00:20:44,276 --> 00:20:45,911
when this is the most important day
725
00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:47,379
of this girl's life.
726
00:20:47,379 --> 00:20:49,314
And you got to be up there
727
00:20:49,314 --> 00:20:49,915
doing the speech.
728
00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:50,749
And if it goes wrong,
729
00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:51,383
I mean, she's going to
730
00:20:51,383 --> 00:20:52,584
going to have this one day.
731
00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:55,587
And so there's a fair amount of pressure.
732
00:20:55,621 --> 00:20:56,989
And when I've done the speech
733
00:20:56,989 --> 00:20:58,523
60 times before I got there,
734
00:20:58,523 --> 00:20:59,558
I mean, I practiced it,
735
00:20:59,558 --> 00:21:00,192
then I thought, well,
736
00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:00,926
it's an outdoor wedding,
737
00:21:00,926 --> 00:21:01,260
so I'll go
738
00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:02,327
practice outdoors
739
00:21:02,327 --> 00:21:04,162
because maybe that's different then,
740
00:21:04,162 --> 00:21:05,330
you know, then I you know,
741
00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:07,599
I went to the place ahead of time and I
742
00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:11,870
you know, I did my due diligence, but.
743
00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:12,504
All right,
744
00:21:12,504 --> 00:21:14,873
Today's word, everybody is due diligence.
745
00:21:14,873 --> 00:21:17,175
When you hear the bell, that's
746
00:21:17,175 --> 00:21:17,943
Wayne is gone
747
00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:22,547
over the word diligence mark of six.
748
00:21:22,614 --> 00:21:25,150
So as I'm there
749
00:21:25,150 --> 00:21:25,784
during a wedding,
750
00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:27,419
I start to get a little emotional.
751
00:21:27,419 --> 00:21:28,186
And I thought, well,
752
00:21:28,186 --> 00:21:28,553
you know,
753
00:21:28,553 --> 00:21:29,488
when I practice,
754
00:21:29,488 --> 00:21:30,188
like I get a ham
755
00:21:30,188 --> 00:21:31,757
sandwich at one time in my hand,
756
00:21:31,757 --> 00:21:32,491
I've got,
757
00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:33,458
you know, I'm drinking a Coke
758
00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:34,126
while I'm doing it.
759
00:21:34,126 --> 00:21:34,960
I mean, some peanuts
760
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,761
and doing it and still be.
761
00:21:35,761 --> 00:21:36,662
Yeah, I'm doing it.
762
00:21:36,662 --> 00:21:37,596
But then when you look out there
763
00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:39,197
and you see Mom crying,
764
00:21:39,197 --> 00:21:42,634
the grandmother crying, the bride's,
765
00:21:42,734 --> 00:21:44,002
you know,
766
00:21:44,002 --> 00:21:46,171
their family crying, the groom family
767
00:21:46,171 --> 00:21:47,639
and the girls in front of me,
768
00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:49,675
the tears are running down her face.
769
00:21:49,675 --> 00:21:50,942
It changes everything, man.
770
00:21:50,942 --> 00:21:51,877
Yeah, I wasn't
771
00:21:51,877 --> 00:21:52,678
I wasn't ready for that
772
00:21:52,678 --> 00:21:55,013
because they've realized the huge mistake
773
00:21:55,013 --> 00:21:57,316
that they've made in choosing you
774
00:21:57,316 --> 00:21:58,283
for the minister.
775
00:21:58,283 --> 00:21:59,818
And you've ruined
776
00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:01,019
the one day
777
00:22:01,019 --> 00:22:01,453
that they're going to
778
00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:02,287
have to look back on
779
00:22:02,287 --> 00:22:04,022
for the rest of their life.
780
00:22:04,022 --> 00:22:04,890
So of course,
781
00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:06,792
there was a lot of tears there.
782
00:22:06,792 --> 00:22:07,959
Well, I think the.
783
00:22:07,959 --> 00:22:09,561
So how emotional did you get?
784
00:22:09,561 --> 00:22:11,730
Did you start to tear up, too, or.
785
00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:14,333
Yeah, just for just for
786
00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:15,000
I got it together
787
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,802
pretty quick is I know the girl.
788
00:22:16,802 --> 00:22:18,270
I was there when she was
789
00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:19,571
I was at her parents wedding.
790
00:22:19,571 --> 00:22:21,206
I was there the day she was born.
791
00:22:21,206 --> 00:22:22,374
I, you know, so,
792
00:22:22,374 --> 00:22:22,674
you know,
793
00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:24,109
and I don't have a daughter of my own
794
00:22:24,109 --> 00:22:25,310
that walked down the aisle,
795
00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:27,979
you know, like you do.
796
00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:29,848
So this was for me, it was a big deal.
797
00:22:29,848 --> 00:22:31,183
So, yeah, I did for a second,
798
00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:32,884
but I pulled it together pretty quick.
799
00:22:32,884 --> 00:22:33,385
I just looked
800
00:22:33,385 --> 00:22:34,886
at that ugly guy in the audience.
801
00:22:34,886 --> 00:22:37,789
I told you about the ugly, dumb guy.
802
00:22:37,789 --> 00:22:38,824
Yeah, a dumb guy.
803
00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:42,728
Yeah. And then I got me back together.
804
00:22:42,828 --> 00:22:45,197
So where was I with the.
805
00:22:45,197 --> 00:22:46,732
Okay, so.
806
00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:49,501
So let's see to oxide about coats.
807
00:22:49,501 --> 00:22:50,535
Yes. All right.
808
00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:51,303
Aluminum oxide.
809
00:22:51,303 --> 00:22:53,004
Talking about with scratch patterns
810
00:22:53,004 --> 00:22:54,473
and things like that and the hard
811
00:22:54,473 --> 00:22:55,774
aluminum oxide floors.
812
00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:57,042
So guess what?
813
00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:59,478
We have a product called Prep.
814
00:22:59,478 --> 00:23:01,980
Have you ever used prep before
815
00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:03,281
to prep?
816
00:23:03,281 --> 00:23:05,183
Of course I have. Yes.
817
00:23:05,183 --> 00:23:05,917
Awesome.
818
00:23:05,917 --> 00:23:07,619
Awesome insurance policy.
819
00:23:07,619 --> 00:23:08,453
And to break it down
820
00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:10,889
pretty quick of what Prep does
821
00:23:10,889 --> 00:23:13,725
is you apply prep on the floor very easy.
822
00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:14,893
You spray at your buffet
823
00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:16,294
end with a black pad,
824
00:23:16,294 --> 00:23:18,697
you know, kind of the janitorial pad.
825
00:23:18,697 --> 00:23:20,766
You spray that in,
826
00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:21,333
you work in
827
00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:23,268
about a five by ten area
828
00:23:23,268 --> 00:23:25,470
buffet into the floor.
829
00:23:25,470 --> 00:23:27,072
You work in a five by ten area
830
00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:27,606
because you're going
831
00:23:27,606 --> 00:23:29,374
to create a slight slurry.
832
00:23:29,374 --> 00:23:30,275
And by working in that
833
00:23:30,275 --> 00:23:31,610
five by ten area,
834
00:23:31,610 --> 00:23:34,579
that gives you time to wipe up.
835
00:23:34,579 --> 00:23:36,248
You don't want that slurry to dry.
836
00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:39,518
So you buffet on sprayed on buffet
837
00:23:39,618 --> 00:23:41,620
and then wipe and then keep moving.
838
00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:44,890
And what prep does, especially with those
839
00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:48,326
aluminum oxide, really hard finishes
840
00:23:48,393 --> 00:23:49,428
now, especially
841
00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:50,462
some of those floors
842
00:23:50,462 --> 00:23:52,197
that came out in the nineties,
843
00:23:52,197 --> 00:23:53,865
you know, I remember
844
00:23:53,865 --> 00:23:55,867
I once did a mirage Birch floor.
845
00:23:55,867 --> 00:23:57,436
That was
846
00:23:57,502 --> 00:23:58,804
one of the first aluminum
847
00:23:58,804 --> 00:24:00,005
oxide floors to come out
848
00:24:00,005 --> 00:24:01,273
and they were just using
849
00:24:01,273 --> 00:24:03,842
a ton of aluminum oxide in those floors
850
00:24:03,842 --> 00:24:05,577
and they were impossible
851
00:24:05,577 --> 00:24:07,179
to get any abrasive through.
852
00:24:07,179 --> 00:24:09,614
You hear people at the schools,
853
00:24:09,614 --> 00:24:11,249
they can't sand through this stuff.
854
00:24:11,249 --> 00:24:13,251
There's special sanding process for that.
855
00:24:13,251 --> 00:24:16,254
But that's the that's another podcast.
856
00:24:16,488 --> 00:24:19,524
But what Prep does is it slightly softens
857
00:24:19,524 --> 00:24:20,859
the finish. Okay.
858
00:24:20,859 --> 00:24:22,260
And not
859
00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:23,962
I'm not talking about softening it
860
00:24:23,962 --> 00:24:25,964
like you were using a paint remover,
861
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:28,967
but it just slightly softens that finish.
862
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,469
It softens it enough
863
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,704
so you can get an abrasive through it.
864
00:24:32,704 --> 00:24:35,707
So now you can get that 180 to 40
865
00:24:35,841 --> 00:24:38,543
or even the
866
00:24:38,543 --> 00:24:40,445
320 maroon pads
867
00:24:40,445 --> 00:24:42,214
like you were talking about.
868
00:24:42,214 --> 00:24:43,215
It was also something
869
00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:44,916
we did a ton in sport
870
00:24:44,916 --> 00:24:47,752
flaws and not so much to
871
00:24:47,819 --> 00:24:48,353
soften the
872
00:24:48,353 --> 00:24:49,955
finish, but it was
873
00:24:49,955 --> 00:24:51,723
a great insurance policy.
874
00:24:51,723 --> 00:24:54,726
It was a great
875
00:24:54,726 --> 00:24:56,761
product to use to remove mild
876
00:24:56,761 --> 00:24:58,730
contaminants that could,
877
00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:59,564
you know, wreak
878
00:24:59,564 --> 00:25:04,102
havoc on your adhesion between coats.
879
00:25:04,169 --> 00:25:06,872
So you bring up a couple of things there
880
00:25:06,872 --> 00:25:08,540
and it kind of goes into sports for
881
00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:08,874
a bit.
882
00:25:08,874 --> 00:25:10,475
We'll get into that in another podcast.
883
00:25:10,475 --> 00:25:11,476
But you want to talk
884
00:25:11,476 --> 00:25:12,644
about the Diamond Abrasives.
885
00:25:12,644 --> 00:25:15,780
Now on how there's this glass pattern
886
00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:19,184
and how less of a swirl mark
887
00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:20,285
to leave in the floor.
888
00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:21,686
And
889
00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:22,487
I will tell you this
890
00:25:22,487 --> 00:25:23,788
about Diamond Abrasives.
891
00:25:23,788 --> 00:25:26,391
Do not talk about Diamond Abrasives.
892
00:25:26,391 --> 00:25:27,826
If your wife is in the house,
893
00:25:27,826 --> 00:25:28,960
okay, Don't be on the phone
894
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,694
talking to somebody
895
00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:31,196
about Diamond Abrasives
896
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:32,464
because
897
00:25:32,464 --> 00:25:34,199
Pauline happened to walk by the office
898
00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:34,666
one day
899
00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:35,934
when I was coaching a guy
900
00:25:35,934 --> 00:25:38,670
and how to use the Diamond Abrasives.
901
00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:41,139
But all she heard was word diamond.
902
00:25:41,139 --> 00:25:44,075
You know, she
903
00:25:44,175 --> 00:25:45,343
strained her neck.
904
00:25:45,343 --> 00:25:45,777
She was
905
00:25:45,777 --> 00:25:47,679
spun around so quick
906
00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:49,581
and came running into the office
907
00:25:49,581 --> 00:25:50,482
and I kept on her.
908
00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:51,483
I'm sorry.
909
00:25:51,483 --> 00:25:53,618
It's it's just not that kind of diamond,
910
00:25:53,618 --> 00:25:55,186
but so be careful
911
00:25:55,186 --> 00:25:56,221
when you use in the word
912
00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:59,224
diamonds around your wife.
913
00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:01,459
Gosh, you know, it's
914
00:26:01,459 --> 00:26:02,928
so my wife's birthday today
915
00:26:02,928 --> 00:26:03,995
that we're doing this podcast.
916
00:26:03,995 --> 00:26:05,096
So yes,
917
00:26:05,096 --> 00:26:06,164
although I have the door closed,
918
00:26:06,164 --> 00:26:07,432
I hope she didn't hear the word diamond
919
00:26:07,432 --> 00:26:11,536
because it's happening in exactly.
920
00:26:11,603 --> 00:26:12,037
my God.
921
00:26:12,037 --> 00:26:13,204
Especially on her birthday.
922
00:26:13,204 --> 00:26:16,408
I mean, if she hears the word diamond
923
00:26:16,474 --> 00:26:17,943
now, we've got way too many fish
924
00:26:17,943 --> 00:26:19,277
and balls to buy before diamonds.
925
00:26:19,277 --> 00:26:20,178
Come on.
926
00:26:20,178 --> 00:26:21,913
I you know, I really hope
927
00:26:21,913 --> 00:26:23,448
she hears the word diamond, though,
928
00:26:23,448 --> 00:26:24,549
especially on her birthday.
929
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:25,917
Now, I'm kind of I'm
930
00:26:25,917 --> 00:26:28,486
rooting for Judy on this one.
931
00:26:28,553 --> 00:26:29,888
Okay.
932
00:26:29,888 --> 00:26:31,623
So, Diamond Abrasives,
933
00:26:31,623 --> 00:26:36,628
talk to me about this new technology.
934
00:26:36,695 --> 00:26:37,562
Have you seen it?
935
00:26:37,562 --> 00:26:39,264
Have you worked with them?
936
00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:40,899
Yes, very much so. Yes.
937
00:26:40,899 --> 00:26:42,634
I remember the first time they came out.
938
00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:44,869
It's just a small section,
939
00:26:44,869 --> 00:26:47,839
five inch, six inch pad.
940
00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:49,708
Then it really doesn't look like much.
941
00:26:49,708 --> 00:26:51,242
And I remember when they first came out,
942
00:26:51,242 --> 00:26:52,577
they said,
943
00:26:52,577 --> 00:26:54,746
we have three of these pads on.
944
00:26:54,746 --> 00:26:57,382
A double sided, double stacked room pad
945
00:26:57,382 --> 00:26:59,951
will cut about 3000 feet
946
00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:01,152
on a sport floor.
947
00:27:01,152 --> 00:27:03,922
And I thought, my God, that's
948
00:27:03,922 --> 00:27:05,724
that is never going to happen.
949
00:27:05,724 --> 00:27:06,925
I've been around the business
950
00:27:06,925 --> 00:27:07,792
for a long time
951
00:27:07,792 --> 00:27:09,127
and there is nothing out there
952
00:27:09,127 --> 00:27:10,729
that can cut 3000 feet.
953
00:27:10,729 --> 00:27:12,330
Well,
954
00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:14,399
my boss, my son and I,
955
00:27:14,399 --> 00:27:17,402
we had a gym, 6000 foot gym.
956
00:27:17,602 --> 00:27:18,903
We both started in the middle.
957
00:27:18,903 --> 00:27:20,472
We had two sets of pads,
958
00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:22,774
one about 1500 feet each had.
959
00:27:22,774 --> 00:27:24,609
And, you know, he was headed to one wall.
960
00:27:24,609 --> 00:27:26,544
I was heading to the other.
961
00:27:26,544 --> 00:27:27,278
We stopped.
962
00:27:27,278 --> 00:27:29,114
We lacked a little bit of the dust out
963
00:27:29,114 --> 00:27:29,914
and kept going.
964
00:27:29,914 --> 00:27:31,783
And it completely
965
00:27:31,783 --> 00:27:34,986
cut that 6000 foot gym with six pads.
966
00:27:34,986 --> 00:27:37,656
It was absolutely amazing.
967
00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:39,324
And the great part about
968
00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:40,959
it was on that job,
969
00:27:40,959 --> 00:27:42,827
we were using the 180 diamonds.
970
00:27:42,827 --> 00:27:46,464
It was a 350 sport polyurethane.
971
00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:48,700
We're putting on
972
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,168
the build that was left
973
00:27:50,168 --> 00:27:51,036
behind
974
00:27:51,036 --> 00:27:53,905
because we didn't remove a lot of finish.
975
00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:54,639
What we did
976
00:27:54,639 --> 00:27:56,641
was we cleaned the floor with Prep
977
00:27:56,641 --> 00:27:58,677
so there was no contaminants.
978
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,145
We were right down to the bare
979
00:28:00,145 --> 00:28:01,646
finish, not the bare wood,
980
00:28:01,646 --> 00:28:04,249
but we we're down to the bare finish
981
00:28:04,249 --> 00:28:07,652
with no contaminants in between.
982
00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:11,222
We abraded the floor using the diamonds
983
00:28:11,322 --> 00:28:12,624
and I went back the next day
984
00:28:12,624 --> 00:28:13,758
to check the job out,
985
00:28:13,758 --> 00:28:16,761
and the head of the maintenance
986
00:28:16,861 --> 00:28:17,829
department said, No,
987
00:28:17,829 --> 00:28:19,097
you can't go in there, it's still wet.
988
00:28:19,097 --> 00:28:20,832
And I said, that's
989
00:28:20,832 --> 00:28:22,133
really good drying conditions
990
00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:23,802
and everything and had good air flow.
991
00:28:23,802 --> 00:28:26,171
So I was pretty shocked.
992
00:28:26,171 --> 00:28:26,938
That was still wet.
993
00:28:26,938 --> 00:28:28,339
It was not wet at all.
994
00:28:28,339 --> 00:28:30,942
It was completely dry, but it looked
995
00:28:30,942 --> 00:28:33,645
so amazing
996
00:28:33,745 --> 00:28:36,648
that he thought the floor was still wet.
997
00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:37,248
And it did.
998
00:28:37,248 --> 00:28:37,949
It looked
999
00:28:37,949 --> 00:28:40,852
unbelievable because with the diamond
1000
00:28:40,852 --> 00:28:43,221
we get an amazing scratch pattern,
1001
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:45,290
but we don't remove finish.
1002
00:28:45,290 --> 00:28:47,125
You keep the build there.
1003
00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:49,194
And build is what you know.
1004
00:28:49,194 --> 00:28:50,395
Build is everything.
1005
00:28:50,395 --> 00:28:51,529
Build is protection.
1006
00:28:51,529 --> 00:28:54,265
Build is, you know, wait for the finish.
1007
00:28:54,265 --> 00:28:56,201
But it's also
1008
00:28:56,201 --> 00:28:58,903
the cosmetic is just incredible
1009
00:28:58,903 --> 00:28:59,404
how it look.
1010
00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:02,240
Like I said, it did it did look wet.
1011
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,942
Well, also for Jim, guys,
1012
00:29:03,942 --> 00:29:05,143
I was always amazed.
1013
00:29:05,143 --> 00:29:05,310
You know,
1014
00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:06,311
we didn't do gym floors,
1015
00:29:06,311 --> 00:29:08,446
but through this job and others,
1016
00:29:08,446 --> 00:29:10,448
I've been around a lot of gym contractors
1017
00:29:10,448 --> 00:29:12,383
and did some coats,
1018
00:29:12,383 --> 00:29:15,820
coding gym floors and some braiding and
1019
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,155
the swirl marks
1020
00:29:17,155 --> 00:29:19,524
the gym contractors get sometimes,
1021
00:29:19,524 --> 00:29:20,625
you know, they're doing 10,000
1022
00:29:20,625 --> 00:29:21,092
square feet.
1023
00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:22,727
Sometimes it's a lot of it's
1024
00:29:22,727 --> 00:29:23,561
a lot of a braiding
1025
00:29:23,561 --> 00:29:26,264
and and it's always a glossy finish
1026
00:29:26,264 --> 00:29:27,699
99% of the time.
1027
00:29:27,699 --> 00:29:28,600
What every job I've been on
1028
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,435
has been glass on the gym floor
1029
00:29:30,435 --> 00:29:33,438
and it's a recipe for Wal-Mart, Right.
1030
00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:34,739
So, absolutely.
1031
00:29:34,739 --> 00:29:36,474
I mean, between using gloss
1032
00:29:36,474 --> 00:29:38,376
finishes and the new high
1033
00:29:38,376 --> 00:29:41,312
intense lighting that's involved with the
1034
00:29:41,312 --> 00:29:44,816
sport places, it's that
1035
00:29:44,883 --> 00:29:47,852
it's a recipe for disaster.
1036
00:29:47,852 --> 00:29:49,554
The thing that you have to remember,
1037
00:29:49,554 --> 00:29:50,622
too, is,
1038
00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:52,056
you know, back in the old days,
1039
00:29:52,056 --> 00:29:53,491
we did everything with 100 grit
1040
00:29:53,491 --> 00:29:54,726
shrink as we thought
1041
00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:57,729
we needed to get really aggressive.
1042
00:29:57,829 --> 00:29:59,664
Lots of dust,
1043
00:29:59,664 --> 00:30:01,366
lots a heavy scratch marks
1044
00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:03,168
to get good adhesion.
1045
00:30:03,168 --> 00:30:04,736
But something that we've learned
1046
00:30:04,736 --> 00:30:05,970
through the years, it's
1047
00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:07,572
not the depth of the scratch.
1048
00:30:07,572 --> 00:30:10,108
It's the number of scratches you put in.
1049
00:30:10,108 --> 00:30:11,843
So,
1050
00:30:11,843 --> 00:30:12,744
you know, actually
1051
00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:14,546
one of the best things you can use
1052
00:30:14,546 --> 00:30:15,580
is a maroon pad.
1053
00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:17,949
The only issue you have with a room pad,
1054
00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:20,051
it's only good for about 700
1055
00:30:20,051 --> 00:30:22,754
feet per pad, about 350 feet per side.
1056
00:30:22,754 --> 00:30:26,524
So, you know,
1057
00:30:26,624 --> 00:30:28,526
when you're doing a large gym
1058
00:30:28,526 --> 00:30:30,628
or you know, when you're doing anything,
1059
00:30:30,628 --> 00:30:33,264
you have to really make sure
1060
00:30:33,264 --> 00:30:34,833
that you're using the right part.
1061
00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,367
You're getting the right square footage
1062
00:30:36,367 --> 00:30:37,035
out of that pad.
1063
00:30:37,035 --> 00:30:37,802
I'm trying to say it,
1064
00:30:37,802 --> 00:30:39,437
and I can't figure out how to say it,
1065
00:30:39,437 --> 00:30:39,971
but that's it.
1066
00:30:39,971 --> 00:30:41,406
You looking to get the right footage
1067
00:30:41,406 --> 00:30:42,006
out of that pad?
1068
00:30:42,006 --> 00:30:43,441
Because if you don't,
1069
00:30:43,441 --> 00:30:45,410
then you could wind up with some issues
1070
00:30:45,410 --> 00:30:46,744
and that's what we love about
1071
00:30:46,744 --> 00:30:47,545
the diamonds
1072
00:30:47,545 --> 00:30:51,115
is the versatility and how far
1073
00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:52,984
they'll go.
1074
00:30:53,084 --> 00:30:53,818
Yeah, and
1075
00:30:53,818 --> 00:30:55,587
I my experience was the same as yours.
1076
00:30:55,587 --> 00:30:56,754
I mean, they put it in my hands.
1077
00:30:56,754 --> 00:30:57,288
It goes
1078
00:30:57,288 --> 00:30:58,890
how much you're going to get out of this.
1079
00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:00,091
They said Diamond Abrasives.
1080
00:31:00,091 --> 00:31:01,860
I thought just doesn't
1081
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,228
it doesn't look at specials me.
1082
00:31:03,228 --> 00:31:05,830
But when you see it on a job man, it is.
1083
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:07,131
And especially the scratch pattern.
1084
00:31:07,131 --> 00:31:07,465
It leaves.
1085
00:31:07,465 --> 00:31:09,767
Like you said, man, it's a game changer
1086
00:31:09,767 --> 00:31:12,604
and the feedback's been incredible.
1087
00:31:12,604 --> 00:31:14,873
So that's one option for aluminum
1088
00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:16,307
oxide floors.
1089
00:31:16,307 --> 00:31:17,408
We talk about the bone
1090
00:31:17,408 --> 00:31:18,409
prep, which I
1091
00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:20,078
you know, I've got thousands
1092
00:31:20,078 --> 00:31:21,312
and thousands square feet of the bone,
1093
00:31:21,312 --> 00:31:23,882
a prep done on jobs.
1094
00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,584
Be aware that there is a floor out there
1095
00:31:26,584 --> 00:31:28,753
that has Scotchgard in it
1096
00:31:28,753 --> 00:31:31,322
and nothing sticks to Scotchgard.
1097
00:31:31,322 --> 00:31:32,123
And they I know
1098
00:31:32,123 --> 00:31:33,324
they've gone around to everybody,
1099
00:31:33,324 --> 00:31:34,292
the manufacturers,
1100
00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:35,226
to find some way
1101
00:31:35,226 --> 00:31:36,728
to stick finish to this product
1102
00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,329
and it does not stick.
1103
00:31:38,329 --> 00:31:39,864
So while there's not a lot of them out
1104
00:31:39,864 --> 00:31:40,798
there, it's a test
1105
00:31:40,798 --> 00:31:42,233
that you can do for these floors.
1106
00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:43,534
And I think it'd be a good test
1107
00:31:43,534 --> 00:31:44,602
for any refinished floor
1108
00:31:44,602 --> 00:31:45,403
that you think might have.
1109
00:31:45,403 --> 00:31:47,572
It is take a Sharpie
1110
00:31:47,572 --> 00:31:49,007
and make a mark on the board
1111
00:31:49,007 --> 00:31:50,508
like a three inch mark.
1112
00:31:50,508 --> 00:31:51,376
Obviously don't want to do it
1113
00:31:51,376 --> 00:31:52,911
right in the middle of the kitchen.
1114
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:55,313
And if it bleeds up
1115
00:31:55,313 --> 00:31:56,114
and you could just wipe
1116
00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:56,514
right back
1117
00:31:56,514 --> 00:31:57,682
off of your finger
1118
00:31:57,682 --> 00:31:59,784
that Scotchgard on on the floor
1119
00:31:59,784 --> 00:32:00,818
and nothing sticks to it.
1120
00:32:00,818 --> 00:32:03,554
So that's another test that you can do.
1121
00:32:03,655 --> 00:32:04,222
Like I said.
1122
00:32:04,222 --> 00:32:06,457
And what type of floor was that for?
1123
00:32:06,457 --> 00:32:08,159
That's for a floor
1124
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:11,162
that has Scotchgard in it in the finish.
1125
00:32:11,362 --> 00:32:13,965
Nothing sticks to them, period.
1126
00:32:13,965 --> 00:32:15,600
So
1127
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,401
I know a lot of guys
1128
00:32:16,401 --> 00:32:18,202
that got that finished.
1129
00:32:18,202 --> 00:32:20,071
I don't know the manufacturer, it's it's
1130
00:32:20,071 --> 00:32:22,073
one of the larger manufacturers
1131
00:32:22,073 --> 00:32:23,942
and I seen some guys
1132
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,343
get their heart broke on that.
1133
00:32:25,343 --> 00:32:27,211
And then in the end find out
1134
00:32:27,211 --> 00:32:28,179
because I remember that
1135
00:32:28,179 --> 00:32:30,148
there was a huge company
1136
00:32:30,148 --> 00:32:32,317
in the wood floor industry
1137
00:32:32,317 --> 00:32:35,053
that wasn't in the finish market
1138
00:32:35,053 --> 00:32:36,354
and they were playing
1139
00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:40,391
with the Scotchgard type of finish and
1140
00:32:40,491 --> 00:32:42,026
they ended up pulling it off the market
1141
00:32:42,026 --> 00:32:42,727
because they just
1142
00:32:42,727 --> 00:32:44,595
couldn't get it to work.
1143
00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:47,098
Yeah, so I know there's this.
1144
00:32:47,098 --> 00:32:47,732
I just wonder
1145
00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:48,833
if you ran into some of
1146
00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:52,103
those jobs or something. Now,
1147
00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:53,438
I don't know what the manufacturer is,
1148
00:32:53,438 --> 00:32:54,706
but there's still a few of those jobs
1149
00:32:54,706 --> 00:32:55,073
out there.
1150
00:32:55,073 --> 00:32:56,174
So it's just,
1151
00:32:56,174 --> 00:32:56,874
you know,
1152
00:32:56,874 --> 00:32:57,742
it's just again, is
1153
00:32:57,742 --> 00:32:58,343
you're doing your due
1154
00:32:58,343 --> 00:32:59,477
diligence in your testing
1155
00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:01,679
and that's why you have to know
1156
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:02,880
these are going to be moneymakers,
1157
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,382
flat out moneymakers.
1158
00:33:04,382 --> 00:33:06,084
There's due diligence.
1159
00:33:06,084 --> 00:33:06,684
Yeah. Okay.
1160
00:33:06,684 --> 00:33:09,620
You got that. Yeah.
1161
00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:11,155
But you got to do your
1162
00:33:11,155 --> 00:33:11,723
your homework
1163
00:33:11,723 --> 00:33:13,558
up ahead of time and and
1164
00:33:13,558 --> 00:33:16,194
and that's what you got to do. Diligence.
1165
00:33:16,194 --> 00:33:17,228
I mean. Yeah.
1166
00:33:17,228 --> 00:33:18,796
Yeah. Either one of them.
1167
00:33:18,796 --> 00:33:21,199
That's right.
1168
00:33:21,199 --> 00:33:24,535
So now doing a recode on a
1169
00:33:24,535 --> 00:33:26,337
on a pre finished floor.
1170
00:33:26,337 --> 00:33:27,839
Now there's another challenge
1171
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,340
is that you got a floor
1172
00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:32,543
that's flawless and
1173
00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:33,945
now you got to put a job site
1174
00:33:33,945 --> 00:33:35,279
finish on it.
1175
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:36,581
So your, your,
1176
00:33:36,581 --> 00:33:38,016
your work will be compared
1177
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:40,685
to a perfectly flawless floor.
1178
00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:43,488
Now in my case, not an issue.
1179
00:33:43,488 --> 00:33:48,526
Raphael Damn, I was going to go there.
1180
00:33:48,593 --> 00:33:50,128
You know, I'm thinking,
1181
00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:52,163
well, wait for the opening
1182
00:33:52,163 --> 00:33:53,631
and then I'll pass.
1183
00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:53,931
Right?
1184
00:33:53,931 --> 00:33:54,932
That's why I talked fast
1185
00:33:54,932 --> 00:33:56,434
when I got there.
1186
00:33:56,434 --> 00:33:58,403
You got it. You're learning.
1187
00:33:58,403 --> 00:33:58,870
Go on.
1188
00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,505
Finish what you're going to say,
1189
00:34:00,505 --> 00:34:00,905
you know?
1190
00:34:00,905 --> 00:34:01,239
Okay.
1191
00:34:01,239 --> 00:34:04,675
Sorry about that flawless finish.
1192
00:34:04,742 --> 00:34:07,945
If you do your
1193
00:34:08,012 --> 00:34:08,980
work up front.
1194
00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:10,848
That's right.
1195
00:34:10,848 --> 00:34:14,252
So which includes I mean, this is
1196
00:34:14,318 --> 00:34:15,720
we are talking about charging for it.
1197
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:17,221
You know what you're up against.
1198
00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:19,157
So you definitely want to charge for it.
1199
00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:19,490
You want to
1200
00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:21,759
because it's going to take your you know,
1201
00:34:21,759 --> 00:34:23,161
you're lost in the woods, man.
1202
00:34:23,161 --> 00:34:24,796
You're lost in the woods.
1203
00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:26,864
I nailed you.
1204
00:34:26,864 --> 00:34:27,398
Remember it?
1205
00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:29,067
You were saying?
1206
00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:29,934
You were saying you were
1207
00:34:29,934 --> 00:34:31,402
comparing the finish
1208
00:34:31,402 --> 00:34:34,906
to the pre finish floor
1209
00:34:34,972 --> 00:34:35,773
and then you were going
1210
00:34:35,773 --> 00:34:36,774
to give a shout out
1211
00:34:36,774 --> 00:34:38,443
that you don't have to worry about.
1212
00:34:38,443 --> 00:34:40,244
But I probably had to.
1213
00:34:40,244 --> 00:34:42,980
So take it from there.
1214
00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:45,783
I have no idea what you just said.
1215
00:34:45,883 --> 00:34:48,186
You were the one who said it, man not me.
1216
00:34:48,186 --> 00:34:50,988
I don't know what that was all about.
1217
00:34:50,988 --> 00:34:52,457
You were talking about what
1218
00:34:52,457 --> 00:34:53,424
a pretty finished floor
1219
00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:54,225
looks like,
1220
00:34:54,225 --> 00:34:55,526
and you're going to put a side
1221
00:34:55,526 --> 00:34:57,462
finished floor down.
1222
00:34:57,462 --> 00:34:58,696
But you wouldn't have to worry
1223
00:34:58,696 --> 00:35:01,699
because you're weighing Highlander.
1224
00:35:01,732 --> 00:35:03,434
And what would you do?
1225
00:35:03,434 --> 00:35:04,135
Rob?
1226
00:35:04,135 --> 00:35:05,536
You probably have a lot of issues
1227
00:35:05,536 --> 00:35:06,771
trying to match that perfect
1228
00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:08,406
finish up, that kind of thing.
1229
00:35:08,406 --> 00:35:10,842
I think that's where you work. Okay.
1230
00:35:10,842 --> 00:35:15,179
And I think I've said it off.
1231
00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:17,415
Hey, are you eating cheese and crackers
1232
00:35:17,415 --> 00:35:21,052
right now? No, I was.
1233
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,353
Is that where you're at?
1234
00:35:22,353 --> 00:35:23,754
No.
1235
00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:26,390
So then this has been another episode
1236
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:27,692
of On the Floor with Wayne
1237
00:35:27,692 --> 00:35:29,527
Highlander and Rob Johnson.
1238
00:35:29,527 --> 00:35:31,496
Please stay tuned for another episode.