On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Revisit: The Bona Recoat System

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Episode Transcription

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Hello, this is Wayne Highlander.

 

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I'm national sales

 

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manager for Bona Adhesives.

 

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And I'm Rob Johnson from Bona training.

 

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And this is another episode

 

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of On the Floors with Wayne and Rob.

 

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So, Rob, how are you doing today?

 

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Pretty good, Wayne.

 

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Pretty good. A little tired.

 

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We took some Spork guys up and saw

 

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Buffalo Bills game

 

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and it was a great

 

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weekend, Had a lot of fun,

 

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but I'm feeling it a little bit.

 

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How was your weekend?

 

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What did you do this weekend?

 

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It's good.

 

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I had a lowkey weekend by design,

 

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so I actually

 

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I the first weekend

 

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I sat down

 

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and got to watch some football.

 

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So my wife went to yoga and

 

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I went and watched.

 

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In fact, I got,

 

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I got a little bit of trouble

 

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for the weekend.

 

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She went to yoga and,

 

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and I, and I are so happy.

 

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I don't, I'm

 

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not often really very content,

 

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you know when it's like I'm just happy

 

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and just knowing that I had the day

 

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that I could sit down

 

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and watch football, I'd be the first full

 

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sun that I've ever been able

 

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to do that this year. And

 

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so I went out to the Cubs and I got

 

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I think we had some nice cheese

 

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spread in there

 

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and these really nice crackers.

 

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So I made myself some

 

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and I sit down in my underwear

 

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and watching football by myself and

 

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admiring the scar

 

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on my knee from my my recent surgery.

 

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I know we get you know what?

 

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There you go. Yeah, that's right.

 

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We have to remind

 

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everybody that Wayne

 

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did play a little ball in his state

 

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in knee

 

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surgery, wasn't from

 

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ball, was from doing flaws, but.

 

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yeah, but I just can't run.

 

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Ring the bell now. Kenyan.

 

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So that's.

 

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So I'm eating the crackers and I'm.

 

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I'm happy and I'm watching the game

 

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until my wife comes home

 

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and she asked me

 

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what I'm doing eating the crackers that

 

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that are for our guests.

 

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Next Wednesday we're

 

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having people over to the house

 

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And you went made a special trip

 

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to this place

 

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we call the Yuppie Pleasure Dome.

 

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It's it's a

 

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really very nice high end food.

 

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It's not your regular supermarket

 

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and it's a long way away.

 

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And she went there

 

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for the special occasion.

 

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And I'm sitting there in my fat butt

 

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and I got the crumbs all over my t shirt

 

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feeling pretty guilty.

 

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But

 

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other than that,

 

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it was a good weekend, man.

 

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So, Rob,

 

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were you wearing a shirt

 

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when you did this or eating the.

 

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Yeah, the crumbs and stuff

 

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right off of your chest.

 

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That's what

 

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gave me away was the black shirt

 

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and the cheese on the side of my mouth.

 

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But I was

 

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they there are great crackers,

 

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nice spread.

 

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You know,

 

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I think that she was

 

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she really got the good stuff.

 

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But wasn't for me.

 

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So Rob we are going to talk about

 

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doing the re coats

 

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and maintenance, right?

 

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Yes, sir. Let's go.

 

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It should be right down

 

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your alley, buddy.

 

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You want to lead it off now?

 

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Why would I leading while you're are.

 

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Wait, Why? Why don't you do it?

 

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All right, I say I'll lead it off then.

 

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Okay, Let's leave it off at some

 

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some bad stories. Okay.

 

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I had three jobs

 

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that I did professionally that were

 

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that I had just had three do overs

 

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in my career that I had to take for free.

 

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That you're going to say

 

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you did three jobs professionally.

 

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That was more than I gave you credit for.

 

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Your career.

 

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Good one. There.

 

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You got it

 

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right on top of your game today.

 

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Well, anyways,

 

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all three of those jobs

 

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were screening coats.

 

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Okay.

 

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And all three of those jobs

 

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were done on a certain

 

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oil soap

 

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type product

 

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that I didn't realize was there.

 

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And, you know, we screened the floor.

 

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Everything looked good.

 

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A nice white powder. It was clean.

 

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And one, two weeks later,

 

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we got callbacks and

 

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all those little screening

 

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codes turned into a free redo, free

 

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standing up. So,

 

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yeah, I think we have

 

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to talk about records.

 

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I see a lot of people schools coming in

 

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and they've had some issues

 

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with Rico and everything, so

 

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I have to tell everybody

 

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how to start taking their time

 

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and be successful with those records.

 

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You told me something

 

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15 years ago that I never forget.

 

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I, I was so impressive to me

 

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that I wrote it down in my book.

 

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That's stand still.

 

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So you made it to the book?

 

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I'm in your book.

 

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You made it to the book.

 

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I cannot believe

 

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you just told everybody that.

 

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That's I feel

 

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privileged.

 

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Thank you very much.

 

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Well, yeah, but wait a minute.

 

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Wait, wait, wait.

 

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I take that back.

 

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What would you write about me?

 

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Well, what I said was the quote

 

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that you told me was,

 

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when considering route re codes,

 

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there's

 

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you need to say to

 

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yourself, is the juice worth the squeeze?

 

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All I do love the air.

 

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Well, anybody who knows me

 

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knows that's that's that's a good quote.

 

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I love that.

 

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That's a yes. In other words.

 

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In other words,

 

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is it going to be worth the effort

 

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getting into this?

 

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The worst thing that I can

 

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I see when guys get into a RICO

 

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is that they get too far into a job

 

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when they realize

 

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it's a it's a problem

 

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and they can't back out.

 

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That's a scary scenario to be in.

 

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So let's talk

 

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about how you set these records

 

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up, the expectations,

 

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the due diligence ahead of time.

 

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You know, look,

 

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when guys are busy, a lot of guys are,

 

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you know, concerned about doing records.

 

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You don't want to do records.

 

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It can't be a good moneymaker.

 

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But I think there are

 

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some parameters around it.

 

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And let's talk about some of those.

 

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Well, the

 

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thing about

 

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records, I mean,

 

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if half of your business was records,

 

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you'd be a rich man.

 

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There's a lot of money in Rico's

 

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The Tunnels, B, maybe.

 

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Rico

 

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I think one of the things that I see

 

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in the school

 

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sometimes is guys are afraid to charge

 

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that good money for the records.

 

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Yep.

 

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And then I see other guys

 

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who come to the class

 

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who are charging amazing prices for Rico,

 

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and they love them.

 

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They want to do them all day

 

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because, you know, it's an easier job.

 

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And

 

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the juices definite be worth the squeeze

 

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when you're getting the right money

 

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and you're you get the process down.

 

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You know, Robert,

 

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I could not agree with you more.

 

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I think there's there's too

 

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things that happened during RICO

 

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that it's been my experience

 

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that that I see

 

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one is that guys think to themselves

 

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if I'm charging I'm

 

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just gonna throw a number out there

 

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$3 a square foot to sand and finish.

 

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How can I possibly charge $3

 

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a square square foot for Rico?

 

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And I don't

 

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like the thought process because,

 

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you know, for some people

 

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just not having the machines in there

 

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and not having the noise,

 

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not having

 

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does this, it's worth it to them

 

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just to get it done,

 

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you know,

 

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especially we're in

 

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some of these fabulous homes

 

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and these people have money.

 

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And, you know,

 

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I think, yes, you have to charge for it.

 

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And and the other thought process

 

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I see sometimes is

 

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is guys are very cavalier about it.

 

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Well, I'll just come in here

 

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and and screen it.

 

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I don't have to do anything else.

 

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I'll just green the floors in an hour

 

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and I'll put the finish on

 

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and that's, that's a screening coat

 

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and I think you have to look at it

 

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a little bit differently in my mind.

 

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And that's why

 

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I think

 

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you also have to charge accordingly.

 

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I think you have to do your due

 

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diligence up ahead of time.

 

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You know what's on that floor.

 

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That's a contaminant

 

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that's not going to allow me

 

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finish the bond.

 

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And that's an investigation

 

264

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process that starts

 

265

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with you and conversations

 

266

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with the homeowner.

 

267

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And I always say that I believe

 

268

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about half of what I'm told

 

269

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and maybe not that much.

 

270

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And it might be for various reasons.

 

271

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It's not that the homeowner necessarily

 

272

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trying to conceal anything from us

 

273

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that maybe they don't know

 

274

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or maybe they're embarrassed to tell you

 

275

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because they know they did something

 

276

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they shouldn't have done.

 

277

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But those things need to be

 

278

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gone through and

 

279

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and testing needs to be done.

 

280

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You agree?

 

281

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Even if I had tested

 

282

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those jobs that went bad on me,

 

283

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I would have

 

284

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it would have saved my

 

285

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saved my bacon on those jobs.

 

286

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And I didn't test anything.

 

287

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My grandfather had an old saying, Robbie,

 

288

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when the powder is white,

 

289

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she's good to go.

 

290

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It's nice and clean and you're good.

 

291

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And the problem is,

 

292

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is some of the acrylics

 

293

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and some of the oil soaps and whatnot,

 

294

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they buff white.

 

295

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So you do think it's

 

296

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clean and it's not contaminated

 

297

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and everything.

 

298

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So testing, it's

 

299

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one of the things that we talk about

 

300

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in the two day and the four day.

 

301

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Any records,

 

302

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even if we're doing one day quick

 

303

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record seminars

 

304

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and things, testing is huge.

 

305

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And with me now

 

306

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it's turned into two tests.

 

307

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One, I want to test the floor,

 

308

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the finish that's already there.

 

309

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Okay.

 

310

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Because if that finishes no good,

 

311

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if we put our finish on top of it,

 

312

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when finish dries, it pulls tight.

 

313

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So it's going to pull from that area,

 

314

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It's going to find weak spots

 

315

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and you're going to create peeling

 

316

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that might not be there, but was kind of

 

317

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bubbling and waiting

 

318

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to explode underneath.

 

319

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So you want to test the finish

 

320

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that you're going to be attached

 

321

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and your finish, too.

 

322

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And then the second test is going to be

 

323

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actually putting some

 

324

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your finish

 

325

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to make sure that everything

 

326

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is compatible.

 

327

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So it's really a

 

328

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two step testing process.

 

329

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Was it your uncle that told you that

 

330

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my going to turn to your grandfather?

 

331

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Don't you think that

 

332

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I look back in the old time

 

333

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sometimes I think and maybe it's just,

 

334

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you know,

 

335

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romanticizing the trade,

 

336

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but didn't

 

337

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it seem like it was a lot

 

338

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easier back then?

 

339

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It is today in some regards, absolutely.

 

340

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Everything was easier back then.

 

341

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I think that I mean,

 

342

00:10:02,001 --> 00:10:03,302

we got better tools nowadays.

 

343

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We got better products

 

344

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nowadays, you know.

 

345

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But

 

346

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but I think the demands are

 

347

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more than they were.

 

348

00:10:08,741 --> 00:10:11,243

I think the speed of the game is,

 

349

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you know, there's more competition.

 

350

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And I think I think the game has changed

 

351

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some sometimes.

 

352

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I remember with my uncle,

 

353

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he started every morning, you know,

 

354

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we go to his house

 

355

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in the morning and, you know,

 

356

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we have breakfast or we'd go out

 

357

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and have breakfast in the morning.

 

358

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Before we went out,

 

359

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we'd actually go to a restaurant

 

360

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and sit down and have breakfast

 

361

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before we went out to the job.

 

362

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And then

 

363

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as I became a contractor,

 

364

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I couldn't imagine

 

365

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being able to take the time to do that,

 

366

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you know?

 

367

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So we'd say, Yes, we wait,

 

368

00:10:39,772 --> 00:10:41,874

let's back up a little bit on this.

 

369

00:10:41,874 --> 00:10:43,042

I just said everything

 

370

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was much easier back then.

 

371

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It was absolutely not much easier back

 

372

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then as far as the labor went.

 

373

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I mean, as far as the equipment

 

374

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that they had to use

 

375

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and the Naylor's and, you know,

 

376

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that was definitely

 

377

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things have definitely got easier for us

 

378

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with the changes in equipment and tools.

 

379

00:11:01,427 --> 00:11:04,363

So I just wanted to clarify,

 

380

00:11:04,363 --> 00:11:05,698

I think the customers

 

381

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were a little easier back then.

 

382

00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:08,934

Yeah, I think,

 

383

00:11:08,934 --> 00:11:09,735

you know, well, listen,

 

384

00:11:09,735 --> 00:11:12,004

I remember in California, in the

 

385

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you know,

 

386

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when the

 

387

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when the housing boom went,

 

388

00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:16,308

man, now your house that you bought for

 

389

00:11:16,308 --> 00:11:19,311

450,000 is worth 490,000.

 

390

00:11:19,311 --> 00:11:19,979

You know, every,

 

391

00:11:19,979 --> 00:11:22,081

every house went up exponentially.

 

392

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And now you go into a 1200 square

 

393

00:11:23,949 --> 00:11:26,419

foot home that cost some $800,000.

 

394

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And, you know,

 

395

00:11:28,154 --> 00:11:31,157

now it's just not now it's the Taj Mahal,

 

396

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you know,

 

397

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I mean,

 

398

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because they spend

 

399

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$800,000 for that house

 

400

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now, everything is man,

 

401

00:11:35,995 --> 00:11:37,563

it's got to be absolutely perfect

 

402

00:11:37,563 --> 00:11:39,465

because this massive investment

 

403

00:11:39,465 --> 00:11:40,433

that they make

 

404

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when in reality it's 1200, that's

 

405

00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:45,971

1200 square foot home, You know,

 

406

00:11:45,971 --> 00:11:46,806

I mean,

 

407

00:11:46,806 --> 00:11:49,875

it's a track home, but the games changed.

 

408

00:11:49,875 --> 00:11:52,011

I think that that raised the

 

409

00:11:52,011 --> 00:11:53,713

the stress level on it

 

410

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a little bit as well.

 

411

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So testing for

 

412

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these products

 

413

00:11:58,718 --> 00:11:59,919

that these contaminants that

 

414

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that that are on the floor.

 

415

00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,089

Why why doesn't screening alone

 

416

00:12:03,089 --> 00:12:03,756

get them off

 

417

00:12:03,756 --> 00:12:05,991

I mean on the floor be explosive

 

418

00:12:05,991 --> 00:12:07,026

go there and screen the floor.

 

419

00:12:07,026 --> 00:12:08,160

So once you talk about that

 

420

00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,395

a little bit, Rob,

 

421

00:12:09,395 --> 00:12:11,997

where screening alone does not work.

 

422

00:12:11,997 --> 00:12:12,331

Well,

 

423

00:12:12,331 --> 00:12:12,798

the reason

 

424

00:12:12,798 --> 00:12:15,334

that you want to be testing is,

 

425

00:12:15,334 --> 00:12:16,368

like I said, to make sure

 

426

00:12:16,368 --> 00:12:18,337

that everything's going to be compatible.

 

427

00:12:18,337 --> 00:12:18,704

The thing

 

428

00:12:18,704 --> 00:12:19,371

is, too, is

 

429

00:12:19,371 --> 00:12:20,940

where you're going to do that test.

 

430

00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:22,208

You wouldn't test underneath

 

431

00:12:22,208 --> 00:12:24,710

a carpet, you wouldn't test in a closet,

 

432

00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:26,011

and of course you wouldn't test

 

433

00:12:26,011 --> 00:12:26,746

right out

 

434

00:12:26,746 --> 00:12:30,216

in the middle of the floor or sightline.

 

435

00:12:30,316 --> 00:12:32,985

But you do want to test in an area

 

436

00:12:32,985 --> 00:12:34,386

that's maybe off to the side.

 

437

00:12:34,386 --> 00:12:38,591

But, you know, is being maintained

 

438

00:12:38,691 --> 00:12:39,391

like the rest

 

439

00:12:39,391 --> 00:12:40,659

of the floor where people

 

440

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sometimes aren't

 

441

00:12:41,393 --> 00:12:44,463

going to do their maintenance

 

442

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under carpeting or in a

 

443

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in a closet or something like that.

 

444

00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:50,069

So when you do those tests,

 

445

00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:51,670

that's where you want to be doing

 

446

00:12:51,670 --> 00:12:52,238

the tests,

 

447

00:12:52,238 --> 00:12:52,838

the areas

 

448

00:12:52,838 --> 00:12:55,374

that you want to be doing, the test in,

 

449

00:12:55,374 --> 00:12:57,309

what's the test?

 

450

00:12:57,309 --> 00:12:57,810

How do you test?

 

451

00:12:57,810 --> 00:13:01,113

GROSS Well, we call a crosshatch test

 

452

00:13:01,180 --> 00:13:04,049

where we lightly take a razor knife

 

453

00:13:04,049 --> 00:13:05,618

and we do a quarter

 

454

00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:09,388

inch checkerboard type

 

455

00:13:09,455 --> 00:13:10,556

configuration.

 

456

00:13:10,556 --> 00:13:11,524

And you're only talking

 

457

00:13:11,524 --> 00:13:13,526

about the size of a playing card,

 

458

00:13:13,526 --> 00:13:15,227

you know, just a small area.

 

459

00:13:15,227 --> 00:13:16,962

You're not going to take your razor

 

460

00:13:16,962 --> 00:13:18,931

and go down into the wood.

 

461

00:13:18,931 --> 00:13:20,499

You're just going to lightly score

 

462

00:13:20,499 --> 00:13:24,303

the top of the finish. I said with that

 

463

00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:26,939

quarter inch squares

 

464

00:13:26,939 --> 00:13:28,641

on a piece of duct tape on their heat

 

465

00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,142

that duct taped up with your fingers

 

466

00:13:30,142 --> 00:13:32,711

and then give it a good call.

 

467

00:13:32,711 --> 00:13:33,112

Yeah.

 

468

00:13:33,112 --> 00:13:34,680

I think technically now

 

469

00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:35,214

they're calling

 

470

00:13:35,214 --> 00:13:36,382

when you do that on a job

 

471

00:13:36,382 --> 00:13:39,418

site is calling it a field hatch test.

 

472

00:13:39,418 --> 00:13:40,986

I believe I could be wrong on that.

 

473

00:13:40,986 --> 00:13:43,022

But yes, you're right about that.

 

474

00:13:43,022 --> 00:13:45,224

But even not a cross ax test

 

475

00:13:45,224 --> 00:13:46,225

anymore, it's a

 

476

00:13:46,225 --> 00:13:47,359

you know, it's

 

477

00:13:47,359 --> 00:13:50,362

I believe it's called a field test.

 

478

00:13:50,362 --> 00:13:52,031

It's not because a cross stitch,

 

479

00:13:52,031 --> 00:13:53,165

I think technology has to be done

 

480

00:13:53,165 --> 00:13:53,999

in a lab or something.

 

481

00:13:53,999 --> 00:13:58,204

I could be wrong, but I think I'm right.

 

482

00:13:58,270 --> 00:14:00,072

But to your point,

 

483

00:14:00,072 --> 00:14:02,308

even before you get to crosshatch test

 

484

00:14:02,308 --> 00:14:04,743

or a field test done,

 

485

00:14:04,743 --> 00:14:06,712

you can also take what we tested for.

 

486

00:14:06,712 --> 00:14:08,581

What are the what are the the no goes?

 

487

00:14:08,581 --> 00:14:10,983

It would be acrylic, right?

 

488

00:14:10,983 --> 00:14:11,784

Some of these products

 

489

00:14:11,784 --> 00:14:12,918

have acrylic on them.

 

490

00:14:12,918 --> 00:14:16,121

Acrylic waxes, paint wax and acrylic.

 

491

00:14:16,222 --> 00:14:16,722

One test

 

492

00:14:16,722 --> 00:14:17,723

you can do for acrylic,

 

493

00:14:17,723 --> 00:14:21,994

You can take a half ammonia and half

 

494

00:14:22,061 --> 00:14:23,596

bath water

 

495

00:14:23,596 --> 00:14:26,065

and do the tests and

 

496

00:14:26,065 --> 00:14:27,833

let it sit on the floor for a while

 

497

00:14:27,833 --> 00:14:28,968

and for about a minute

 

498

00:14:28,968 --> 00:14:30,603

and then kind of run your fingernails,

 

499

00:14:30,603 --> 00:14:31,737

do it as an agitator.

 

500

00:14:31,737 --> 00:14:33,005

If it starts to milky white

 

501

00:14:33,005 --> 00:14:34,039

and starts to peel,

 

502

00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:35,875

you know, that's acrylic

 

503

00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:39,578

and that's one test you can do.

 

504

00:14:39,678 --> 00:14:42,581

So what about disclaimers?

 

505

00:14:42,581 --> 00:14:43,582

I mean, a lot of guys will say,

 

506

00:14:43,582 --> 00:14:45,351

well, listen, I'll give them a disclaimer

 

507

00:14:45,351 --> 00:14:45,985

and what have you.

 

508

00:14:45,985 --> 00:14:46,585

I did

 

509

00:14:46,585 --> 00:14:47,286

talk to one guy

 

510

00:14:47,286 --> 00:14:49,288

who does something that

 

511

00:14:49,288 --> 00:14:51,023

was interesting where, you know,

 

512

00:14:51,023 --> 00:14:51,624

he tells them,

 

513

00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:53,959

this is my price to do this,

 

514

00:14:53,959 --> 00:14:54,860

this upgrade.

 

515

00:14:54,860 --> 00:14:58,030

Enrico and

 

516

00:14:58,130 --> 00:14:59,198

I will do everything,

 

517

00:14:59,198 --> 00:15:00,733

all my due diligence, do testing,

 

518

00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:01,066

what have you.

 

519

00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:02,268

But we cannot guarantee

 

520

00:15:02,268 --> 00:15:03,202

that it's going to

 

521

00:15:03,202 --> 00:15:04,470

is not going to appeal.

 

522

00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:07,373

We might if we don't know absolutely

 

523

00:15:07,373 --> 00:15:09,174

what's on this for

 

524

00:15:09,174 --> 00:15:10,676

there's a chance that it may peel.

 

525

00:15:10,676 --> 00:15:11,543

If it does, it's

 

526

00:15:11,543 --> 00:15:12,544

going to cause you

 

527

00:15:12,544 --> 00:15:14,847

to have to say and refinish the floor.

 

528

00:15:14,847 --> 00:15:17,549

And this is my cost to say and refinish

 

529

00:15:17,549 --> 00:15:19,418

if we have to go down that road,

 

530

00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:22,755

I will deduct the cost of of the screen.

 

531

00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:25,624

Enrico, you see what I'm saying?

 

532

00:15:25,691 --> 00:15:27,359

Then his normal

 

533

00:15:27,359 --> 00:15:28,294

square foot price,

 

534

00:15:28,294 --> 00:15:30,496

that's $3 a square foot.

 

535

00:15:30,496 --> 00:15:31,330

He puts in the bid

 

536

00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:35,434

at like five bucks a square foot

 

537

00:15:35,534 --> 00:15:37,436

so he doesn't get hurt.

 

538

00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:39,204

That makes sense

 

539

00:15:39,204 --> 00:15:40,539

that it's not a bad way to go.

 

540

00:15:40,539 --> 00:15:41,874

I mean, I think, you know,

 

541

00:15:41,874 --> 00:15:42,308

you have to have

 

542

00:15:42,308 --> 00:15:43,375

the conversation upfront.

 

543

00:15:43,375 --> 00:15:45,444

And we talk about

 

544

00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:47,713

being transparent and expectations

 

545

00:15:47,713 --> 00:15:48,280

and everything.

 

546

00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,982

And I think you have to put it out there

 

547

00:15:49,982 --> 00:15:51,183

upfront first.

 

548

00:15:51,183 --> 00:15:52,084

Everybody's got to have

 

549

00:15:52,084 --> 00:15:53,619

a little skin in the game.

 

550

00:15:53,619 --> 00:15:55,187

Yeah, that's the deal here.

 

551

00:15:55,187 --> 00:15:57,823

And then after my third failure,

 

552

00:15:57,823 --> 00:15:58,991

that's how I started to write up

 

553

00:15:58,991 --> 00:15:59,625

my quotes.

 

554

00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:00,326

My estimates

 

555

00:16:00,326 --> 00:16:03,595

was, Look, I charge this amount to screen

 

556

00:16:03,595 --> 00:16:05,064

and coat your floor

 

557

00:16:05,064 --> 00:16:07,399

and I charge this amount to Sander floor.

 

558

00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:08,867

So if it fails,

 

559

00:16:08,867 --> 00:16:11,870

I'll come back and give you a of

 

560

00:16:12,004 --> 00:16:15,207

a slight discount on resetting the floor.

 

561

00:16:15,274 --> 00:16:17,242

If it doesn't, then we're all good to go.

 

562

00:16:17,242 --> 00:16:18,644

But that was really that was,

 

563

00:16:18,644 --> 00:16:19,111

you know,

 

564

00:16:19,111 --> 00:16:19,745

that was back

 

565

00:16:19,745 --> 00:16:21,447

a long 30 years ago

 

566

00:16:21,447 --> 00:16:23,382

when we started to do that

 

567

00:16:23,382 --> 00:16:24,783

before we're testing

 

568

00:16:24,783 --> 00:16:25,651

and things like that.

 

569

00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:29,021

So but you do want to have everybody

 

570

00:16:29,121 --> 00:16:30,189

everybody's involved.

 

571

00:16:30,189 --> 00:16:31,690

Everybody has some skin in the game

 

572

00:16:31,690 --> 00:16:34,126

and then you're not going to get burned.

 

573

00:16:34,126 --> 00:16:36,495

Actually, in the school, our school

 

574

00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:39,498

workbook, we have an actual

 

575

00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:41,700

disclaimer type of contract

 

576

00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:42,334

that, you know,

 

577

00:16:42,334 --> 00:16:43,535

you can kind of fill in the blanks

 

578

00:16:43,535 --> 00:16:45,471

with your own company and everything

 

579

00:16:45,471 --> 00:16:47,006

and write that,

 

580

00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:51,910

write that contract up just to, you know,

 

581

00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,646

help you out so you don't get burned.

 

582

00:16:54,646 --> 00:16:55,147

Yep.

 

583

00:16:55,147 --> 00:16:59,018

Another challenge doing three coats is,

 

584

00:16:59,118 --> 00:16:59,551

you know,

 

585

00:16:59,551 --> 00:17:01,253

you're dealing with a cured finish now

 

586

00:17:01,253 --> 00:17:02,121

and I'll get into aluminum

 

587

00:17:02,121 --> 00:17:03,422

oxides in a minute but

 

588

00:17:03,422 --> 00:17:05,657

but say it's a polyurethane four is cured

 

589

00:17:05,657 --> 00:17:07,426

been cured for years and years

 

590

00:17:07,426 --> 00:17:08,527

now you need to get a bite

 

591

00:17:08,527 --> 00:17:10,462

into that floor

 

592

00:17:10,462 --> 00:17:12,998

with the with the with the screen

 

593

00:17:12,998 --> 00:17:14,566

or whatever abrasive you're using.

 

594

00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:15,968

And oftentimes

 

595

00:17:15,968 --> 00:17:17,136

you have to get pretty aggressive

 

596

00:17:17,136 --> 00:17:18,804

to get the necessary bite.

 

597

00:17:18,804 --> 00:17:19,638

And of course,

 

598

00:17:19,638 --> 00:17:22,641

now there's a concern with the

 

599

00:17:22,808 --> 00:17:24,610

with getting swirl marks.

 

600

00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:24,977

Okay.

 

601

00:17:24,977 --> 00:17:26,111

So that's another challenge,

 

602

00:17:26,111 --> 00:17:27,479

especially going into the high sheen.

 

603

00:17:27,479 --> 00:17:28,080

That was

 

604

00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,114

especially because the can

 

605

00:17:29,114 --> 00:17:30,549

lighten the ceiling.

 

606

00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:32,584

So in that case,

 

607

00:17:32,584 --> 00:17:33,886

if you're going to go down that road,

 

608

00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:35,888

I think it's smart to

 

609

00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:36,822

if you're going to have to go with,

 

610

00:17:36,822 --> 00:17:38,424

say, a 120 grid because it's a

 

611

00:17:38,424 --> 00:17:39,124

you know, it's a four

 

612

00:17:39,124 --> 00:17:40,926

has been down for years and years.

 

613

00:17:40,926 --> 00:17:42,561

You need to come back behind that

 

614

00:17:42,561 --> 00:17:43,629

with a final screen.

 

615

00:17:43,629 --> 00:17:45,030

And I in any case,

 

616

00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:47,099

I like to finish up with a maroon pad

 

617

00:17:47,099 --> 00:17:48,567

or a conditioning pad,

 

618

00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:50,569

which is about a 320 grit,

 

619

00:17:50,569 --> 00:17:53,205

which will soften the scratches more.

 

620

00:17:53,272 --> 00:17:54,373

Hey, I got a question.

 

621

00:17:54,373 --> 00:17:55,808

I can't get the side of my head.

 

622

00:17:55,808 --> 00:17:58,977

The last podcast you said that

 

623

00:17:58,977 --> 00:18:01,980

you officiated a wedding.

 

624

00:18:02,214 --> 00:18:02,748

Yeah.

 

625

00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:04,249

Was this legal to were

 

626

00:18:04,249 --> 00:18:06,852

this was this a legal wedding?

 

627

00:18:06,852 --> 00:18:07,553

Yes.

 

628

00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:09,221

I'll have you know, I'm a minister now.

 

629

00:18:09,221 --> 00:18:10,189

You.

 

630

00:18:10,189 --> 00:18:12,124

You are not a minister.

 

631

00:18:12,124 --> 00:18:14,393

I can show you the proof.

 

632

00:18:14,393 --> 00:18:16,862

You. I actually my I didn't even do it.

 

633

00:18:16,862 --> 00:18:17,362

I have to say,

 

634

00:18:17,362 --> 00:18:18,230

my wife went online

 

635

00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:19,064

and did it all for me.

 

636

00:18:19,064 --> 00:18:20,199

I think it took like 15 minutes,

 

637

00:18:20,199 --> 00:18:21,934

so it took the wind out of my sails.

 

638

00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:23,268

And that makes me a minister

 

639

00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:25,170

when anybody could do

 

640

00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:26,238

in 15 minutes online.

 

641

00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:28,574

But it's legal and binding. Yep.

 

642

00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:30,943

And it's with daughters.

 

643

00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:32,277

Or is this a new thing?

 

644

00:18:32,277 --> 00:18:33,545

He's starting a church

 

645

00:18:33,545 --> 00:18:35,047

and he's his church or something.

 

646

00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:36,115

Or, you know,

 

647

00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:37,783

it went straight to my head.

 

648

00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:39,151

It really did.

 

649

00:18:39,151 --> 00:18:40,953

That You don't

 

650

00:18:40,953 --> 00:18:43,055

never give an ugly guy a compliment

 

651

00:18:43,055 --> 00:18:45,557

if you're a woman

 

652

00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:47,392

and never give a guy with no talent.

 

653

00:18:47,392 --> 00:18:48,260

They know

 

654

00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:50,095

just a little bit of credibility

 

655

00:18:50,095 --> 00:18:51,763

because it went right to my head.

 

656

00:18:51,763 --> 00:18:52,564

I started thinking

 

657

00:18:52,564 --> 00:18:54,233

of all the weddings I could do

 

658

00:18:54,233 --> 00:18:56,368

and I could forgive people sins

 

659

00:18:56,368 --> 00:18:58,403

and and all kinds of stuff.

 

660

00:18:58,403 --> 00:18:59,905

so you're you're into this

 

661

00:18:59,905 --> 00:19:00,973

and you're heavier.

 

662

00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:03,408

You're like that new HBO show.

 

663

00:19:03,408 --> 00:19:04,243

You could be

 

664

00:19:04,243 --> 00:19:05,711

some of the Righteous Gemstones

 

665

00:19:05,711 --> 00:19:07,212

type thing.

 

666

00:19:07,212 --> 00:19:09,148

No, I got over it in the weekend

 

667

00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:12,151

and go back to work, so.

 

668

00:19:12,317 --> 00:19:13,285

Well, you know, my daughter's

 

669

00:19:13,285 --> 00:19:15,053

getting married in May.

 

670

00:19:15,053 --> 00:19:17,122

Your daughter is. Yeah. Yeah.

 

671

00:19:17,122 --> 00:19:18,056

First of all, first,

 

672

00:19:18,056 --> 00:19:19,558

I'm going to check to see if she has a

 

673

00:19:19,558 --> 00:19:21,693

I'm going to check see if she has a mr..

 

674

00:19:21,693 --> 00:19:22,928

I mean,

 

675

00:19:22,928 --> 00:19:23,862

this could be a good way

 

676

00:19:23,862 --> 00:19:26,565

to get a gift out of you.

 

677

00:19:26,665 --> 00:19:29,501

Yeah,

 

678

00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:31,036

that is my gift, Leigh.

 

679

00:19:31,036 --> 00:19:34,306

Showing up.

 

680

00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:36,341

I mean, I got to pay for my plane ticket

 

681

00:19:36,341 --> 00:19:39,545

and do the work and then get a gift.

 

682

00:19:39,611 --> 00:19:40,312

So what was.

 

683

00:19:40,312 --> 00:19:41,446

It was one of those things

 

684

00:19:41,446 --> 00:19:42,147

that I hear that,

 

685

00:19:42,147 --> 00:19:42,447

you know,

 

686

00:19:42,447 --> 00:19:44,149

you kind of got the calling,

 

687

00:19:44,149 --> 00:19:45,617

that kind of thing.

 

688

00:19:45,617 --> 00:19:47,386

No, they just asked

 

689

00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:48,954

if I could do it, actually.

 

690

00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:49,821

Okay, I'll tell you, it's

 

691

00:19:49,821 --> 00:19:51,056

kind of funny because,

 

692

00:19:51,056 --> 00:19:51,323

you know,

 

693

00:19:51,323 --> 00:19:51,690

they know

 

694

00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:54,693

that I'm also a huge movie fan and

 

695

00:19:54,693 --> 00:19:56,828

and a great movie critic.

 

696

00:19:56,828 --> 00:19:58,630

And

 

697

00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:59,865

knowing that they

 

698

00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:01,833

they sent me this little video.

 

699

00:20:01,833 --> 00:20:02,868

They said, gosh, we sat

 

700

00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:04,169

we saw this fantastic movie.

 

701

00:20:04,169 --> 00:20:05,370

Have you seen it?

 

702

00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:07,573

It's called The Officiant starring.

 

703

00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:08,540

Then it had, you know,

 

704

00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:09,575

starring Wayne High later.

 

705

00:20:09,575 --> 00:20:10,108

What happened then?

 

706

00:20:10,108 --> 00:20:10,776

They had a whole story

 

707

00:20:10,776 --> 00:20:11,810

about themselves, everything.

 

708

00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:13,212

And that was them asking me

 

709

00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:15,180

to be the efficient at their wedding,

 

710

00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:18,784

which was pretty, pretty nice. So.

 

711

00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:19,451

Yeah.

 

712

00:20:19,451 --> 00:20:20,619

And you are.

 

713

00:20:20,619 --> 00:20:22,721

And it's man, you are.

 

714

00:20:22,721 --> 00:20:25,490

There are many ladies, Wayne Islander

 

715

00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:29,261

fishermen, corporate stooge

 

716

00:20:29,361 --> 00:20:31,463

minister.

 

717

00:20:31,463 --> 00:20:34,733

yes, I,

 

718

00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,335

I don't get emotional very often

 

719

00:20:36,335 --> 00:20:37,669

and you know, so whatever, you know,

 

720

00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:39,504

I'm practicing this thing

 

721

00:20:39,504 --> 00:20:41,873

because it's one thing doing a speech,

 

722

00:20:41,873 --> 00:20:43,408

you know, at work.

 

723

00:20:43,408 --> 00:20:44,276

It's another thing

 

724

00:20:44,276 --> 00:20:45,911

when this is the most important day

 

725

00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:47,379

of this girl's life.

 

726

00:20:47,379 --> 00:20:49,314

And you got to be up there

 

727

00:20:49,314 --> 00:20:49,915

doing the speech.

 

728

00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:50,749

And if it goes wrong,

 

729

00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:51,383

I mean, she's going to

 

730

00:20:51,383 --> 00:20:52,584

going to have this one day.

 

731

00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:55,587

And so there's a fair amount of pressure.

 

732

00:20:55,621 --> 00:20:56,989

And when I've done the speech

 

733

00:20:56,989 --> 00:20:58,523

60 times before I got there,

 

734

00:20:58,523 --> 00:20:59,558

I mean, I practiced it,

 

735

00:20:59,558 --> 00:21:00,192

then I thought, well,

 

736

00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:00,926

it's an outdoor wedding,

 

737

00:21:00,926 --> 00:21:01,260

so I'll go

 

738

00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:02,327

practice outdoors

 

739

00:21:02,327 --> 00:21:04,162

because maybe that's different then,

 

740

00:21:04,162 --> 00:21:05,330

you know, then I you know,

 

741

00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:07,599

I went to the place ahead of time and I

 

742

00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:11,870

you know, I did my due diligence, but.

 

743

00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:12,504

All right,

 

744

00:21:12,504 --> 00:21:14,873

Today's word, everybody is due diligence.

 

745

00:21:14,873 --> 00:21:17,175

When you hear the bell, that's

 

746

00:21:17,175 --> 00:21:17,943

Wayne is gone

 

747

00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:22,547

over the word diligence mark of six.

 

748

00:21:22,614 --> 00:21:25,150

So as I'm there

 

749

00:21:25,150 --> 00:21:25,784

during a wedding,

 

750

00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:27,419

I start to get a little emotional.

 

751

00:21:27,419 --> 00:21:28,186

And I thought, well,

 

752

00:21:28,186 --> 00:21:28,553

you know,

 

753

00:21:28,553 --> 00:21:29,488

when I practice,

 

754

00:21:29,488 --> 00:21:30,188

like I get a ham

 

755

00:21:30,188 --> 00:21:31,757

sandwich at one time in my hand,

 

756

00:21:31,757 --> 00:21:32,491

I've got,

 

757

00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:33,458

you know, I'm drinking a Coke

 

758

00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:34,126

while I'm doing it.

 

759

00:21:34,126 --> 00:21:34,960

I mean, some peanuts

 

760

00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,761

and doing it and still be.

 

761

00:21:35,761 --> 00:21:36,662

Yeah, I'm doing it.

 

762

00:21:36,662 --> 00:21:37,596

But then when you look out there

 

763

00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:39,197

and you see Mom crying,

 

764

00:21:39,197 --> 00:21:42,634

the grandmother crying, the bride's,

 

765

00:21:42,734 --> 00:21:44,002

you know,

 

766

00:21:44,002 --> 00:21:46,171

their family crying, the groom family

 

767

00:21:46,171 --> 00:21:47,639

and the girls in front of me,

 

768

00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:49,675

the tears are running down her face.

 

769

00:21:49,675 --> 00:21:50,942

It changes everything, man.

 

770

00:21:50,942 --> 00:21:51,877

Yeah, I wasn't

 

771

00:21:51,877 --> 00:21:52,678

I wasn't ready for that

 

772

00:21:52,678 --> 00:21:55,013

because they've realized the huge mistake

 

773

00:21:55,013 --> 00:21:57,316

that they've made in choosing you

 

774

00:21:57,316 --> 00:21:58,283

for the minister.

 

775

00:21:58,283 --> 00:21:59,818

And you've ruined

 

776

00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:01,019

the one day

 

777

00:22:01,019 --> 00:22:01,453

that they're going to

 

778

00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:02,287

have to look back on

 

779

00:22:02,287 --> 00:22:04,022

for the rest of their life.

 

780

00:22:04,022 --> 00:22:04,890

So of course,

 

781

00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:06,792

there was a lot of tears there.

 

782

00:22:06,792 --> 00:22:07,959

Well, I think the.

 

783

00:22:07,959 --> 00:22:09,561

So how emotional did you get?

 

784

00:22:09,561 --> 00:22:11,730

Did you start to tear up, too, or.

 

785

00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:14,333

Yeah, just for just for

 

786

00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:15,000

I got it together

 

787

00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,802

pretty quick is I know the girl.

 

788

00:22:16,802 --> 00:22:18,270

I was there when she was

 

789

00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:19,571

I was at her parents wedding.

 

790

00:22:19,571 --> 00:22:21,206

I was there the day she was born.

 

791

00:22:21,206 --> 00:22:22,374

I, you know, so,

 

792

00:22:22,374 --> 00:22:22,674

you know,

 

793

00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:24,109

and I don't have a daughter of my own

 

794

00:22:24,109 --> 00:22:25,310

that walked down the aisle,

 

795

00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:27,979

you know, like you do.

 

796

00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:29,848

So this was for me, it was a big deal.

 

797

00:22:29,848 --> 00:22:31,183

So, yeah, I did for a second,

 

798

00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:32,884

but I pulled it together pretty quick.

 

799

00:22:32,884 --> 00:22:33,385

I just looked

 

800

00:22:33,385 --> 00:22:34,886

at that ugly guy in the audience.

 

801

00:22:34,886 --> 00:22:37,789

I told you about the ugly, dumb guy.

 

802

00:22:37,789 --> 00:22:38,824

Yeah, a dumb guy.

 

803

00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:42,728

Yeah. And then I got me back together.

 

804

00:22:42,828 --> 00:22:45,197

So where was I with the.

 

805

00:22:45,197 --> 00:22:46,732

Okay, so.

 

806

00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:49,501

So let's see to oxide about coats.

 

807

00:22:49,501 --> 00:22:50,535

Yes. All right.

 

808

00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:51,303

Aluminum oxide.

 

809

00:22:51,303 --> 00:22:53,004

Talking about with scratch patterns

 

810

00:22:53,004 --> 00:22:54,473

and things like that and the hard

 

811

00:22:54,473 --> 00:22:55,774

aluminum oxide floors.

 

812

00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:57,042

So guess what?

 

813

00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:59,478

We have a product called Prep.

 

814

00:22:59,478 --> 00:23:01,980

Have you ever used prep before

 

815

00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:03,281

to prep?

 

816

00:23:03,281 --> 00:23:05,183

Of course I have. Yes.

 

817

00:23:05,183 --> 00:23:05,917

Awesome.

 

818

00:23:05,917 --> 00:23:07,619

Awesome insurance policy.

 

819

00:23:07,619 --> 00:23:08,453

And to break it down

 

820

00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:10,889

pretty quick of what Prep does

 

821

00:23:10,889 --> 00:23:13,725

is you apply prep on the floor very easy.

 

822

00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:14,893

You spray at your buffet

 

823

00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:16,294

end with a black pad,

 

824

00:23:16,294 --> 00:23:18,697

you know, kind of the janitorial pad.

 

825

00:23:18,697 --> 00:23:20,766

You spray that in,

 

826

00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:21,333

you work in

 

827

00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:23,268

about a five by ten area

 

828

00:23:23,268 --> 00:23:25,470

buffet into the floor.

 

829

00:23:25,470 --> 00:23:27,072

You work in a five by ten area

 

830

00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:27,606

because you're going

 

831

00:23:27,606 --> 00:23:29,374

to create a slight slurry.

 

832

00:23:29,374 --> 00:23:30,275

And by working in that

 

833

00:23:30,275 --> 00:23:31,610

five by ten area,

 

834

00:23:31,610 --> 00:23:34,579

that gives you time to wipe up.

 

835

00:23:34,579 --> 00:23:36,248

You don't want that slurry to dry.

 

836

00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:39,518

So you buffet on sprayed on buffet

 

837

00:23:39,618 --> 00:23:41,620

and then wipe and then keep moving.

 

838

00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:44,890

And what prep does, especially with those

 

839

00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:48,326

aluminum oxide, really hard finishes

 

840

00:23:48,393 --> 00:23:49,428

now, especially

 

841

00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:50,462

some of those floors

 

842

00:23:50,462 --> 00:23:52,197

that came out in the nineties,

 

843

00:23:52,197 --> 00:23:53,865

you know, I remember

 

844

00:23:53,865 --> 00:23:55,867

I once did a mirage Birch floor.

 

845

00:23:55,867 --> 00:23:57,436

That was

 

846

00:23:57,502 --> 00:23:58,804

one of the first aluminum

 

847

00:23:58,804 --> 00:24:00,005

oxide floors to come out

 

848

00:24:00,005 --> 00:24:01,273

and they were just using

 

849

00:24:01,273 --> 00:24:03,842

a ton of aluminum oxide in those floors

 

850

00:24:03,842 --> 00:24:05,577

and they were impossible

 

851

00:24:05,577 --> 00:24:07,179

to get any abrasive through.

 

852

00:24:07,179 --> 00:24:09,614

You hear people at the schools,

 

853

00:24:09,614 --> 00:24:11,249

they can't sand through this stuff.

 

854

00:24:11,249 --> 00:24:13,251

There's special sanding process for that.

 

855

00:24:13,251 --> 00:24:16,254

But that's the that's another podcast.

 

856

00:24:16,488 --> 00:24:19,524

But what Prep does is it slightly softens

 

857

00:24:19,524 --> 00:24:20,859

the finish. Okay.

 

858

00:24:20,859 --> 00:24:22,260

And not

 

859

00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:23,962

I'm not talking about softening it

 

860

00:24:23,962 --> 00:24:25,964

like you were using a paint remover,

 

861

00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:28,967

but it just slightly softens that finish.

 

862

00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,469

It softens it enough

 

863

00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,704

so you can get an abrasive through it.

 

864

00:24:32,704 --> 00:24:35,707

So now you can get that 180 to 40

 

865

00:24:35,841 --> 00:24:38,543

or even the

 

866

00:24:38,543 --> 00:24:40,445

320 maroon pads

 

867

00:24:40,445 --> 00:24:42,214

like you were talking about.

 

868

00:24:42,214 --> 00:24:43,215

It was also something

 

869

00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:44,916

we did a ton in sport

 

870

00:24:44,916 --> 00:24:47,752

flaws and not so much to

 

871

00:24:47,819 --> 00:24:48,353

soften the

 

872

00:24:48,353 --> 00:24:49,955

finish, but it was

 

873

00:24:49,955 --> 00:24:51,723

a great insurance policy.

 

874

00:24:51,723 --> 00:24:54,726

It was a great

 

875

00:24:54,726 --> 00:24:56,761

product to use to remove mild

 

876

00:24:56,761 --> 00:24:58,730

contaminants that could,

 

877

00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:59,564

you know, wreak

 

878

00:24:59,564 --> 00:25:04,102

havoc on your adhesion between coats.

 

879

00:25:04,169 --> 00:25:06,872

So you bring up a couple of things there

 

880

00:25:06,872 --> 00:25:08,540

and it kind of goes into sports for

 

881

00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:08,874

a bit.

 

882

00:25:08,874 --> 00:25:10,475

We'll get into that in another podcast.

 

883

00:25:10,475 --> 00:25:11,476

But you want to talk

 

884

00:25:11,476 --> 00:25:12,644

about the Diamond Abrasives.

 

885

00:25:12,644 --> 00:25:15,780

Now on how there's this glass pattern

 

886

00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:19,184

and how less of a swirl mark

 

887

00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:20,285

to leave in the floor.

 

888

00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:21,686

And

 

889

00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:22,487

I will tell you this

 

890

00:25:22,487 --> 00:25:23,788

about Diamond Abrasives.

 

891

00:25:23,788 --> 00:25:26,391

Do not talk about Diamond Abrasives.

 

892

00:25:26,391 --> 00:25:27,826

If your wife is in the house,

 

893

00:25:27,826 --> 00:25:28,960

okay, Don't be on the phone

 

894

00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,694

talking to somebody

 

895

00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:31,196

about Diamond Abrasives

 

896

00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:32,464

because

 

897

00:25:32,464 --> 00:25:34,199

Pauline happened to walk by the office

 

898

00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:34,666

one day

 

899

00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:35,934

when I was coaching a guy

 

900

00:25:35,934 --> 00:25:38,670

and how to use the Diamond Abrasives.

 

901

00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:41,139

But all she heard was word diamond.

 

902

00:25:41,139 --> 00:25:44,075

You know, she

 

903

00:25:44,175 --> 00:25:45,343

strained her neck.

 

904

00:25:45,343 --> 00:25:45,777

She was

 

905

00:25:45,777 --> 00:25:47,679

spun around so quick

 

906

00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:49,581

and came running into the office

 

907

00:25:49,581 --> 00:25:50,482

and I kept on her.

 

908

00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:51,483

I'm sorry.

 

909

00:25:51,483 --> 00:25:53,618

It's it's just not that kind of diamond,

 

910

00:25:53,618 --> 00:25:55,186

but so be careful

 

911

00:25:55,186 --> 00:25:56,221

when you use in the word

 

912

00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:59,224

diamonds around your wife.

 

913

00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:01,459

Gosh, you know, it's

 

914

00:26:01,459 --> 00:26:02,928

so my wife's birthday today

 

915

00:26:02,928 --> 00:26:03,995

that we're doing this podcast.

 

916

00:26:03,995 --> 00:26:05,096

So yes,

 

917

00:26:05,096 --> 00:26:06,164

although I have the door closed,

 

918

00:26:06,164 --> 00:26:07,432

I hope she didn't hear the word diamond

 

919

00:26:07,432 --> 00:26:11,536

because it's happening in exactly.

 

920

00:26:11,603 --> 00:26:12,037

my God.

 

921

00:26:12,037 --> 00:26:13,204

Especially on her birthday.

 

922

00:26:13,204 --> 00:26:16,408

I mean, if she hears the word diamond

 

923

00:26:16,474 --> 00:26:17,943

now, we've got way too many fish

 

924

00:26:17,943 --> 00:26:19,277

and balls to buy before diamonds.

 

925

00:26:19,277 --> 00:26:20,178

Come on.

 

926

00:26:20,178 --> 00:26:21,913

I you know, I really hope

 

927

00:26:21,913 --> 00:26:23,448

she hears the word diamond, though,

 

928

00:26:23,448 --> 00:26:24,549

especially on her birthday.

 

929

00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:25,917

Now, I'm kind of I'm

 

930

00:26:25,917 --> 00:26:28,486

rooting for Judy on this one.

 

931

00:26:28,553 --> 00:26:29,888

Okay.

 

932

00:26:29,888 --> 00:26:31,623

So, Diamond Abrasives,

 

933

00:26:31,623 --> 00:26:36,628

talk to me about this new technology.

 

934

00:26:36,695 --> 00:26:37,562

Have you seen it?

 

935

00:26:37,562 --> 00:26:39,264

Have you worked with them?

 

936

00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:40,899

Yes, very much so. Yes.

 

937

00:26:40,899 --> 00:26:42,634

I remember the first time they came out.

 

938

00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:44,869

It's just a small section,

 

939

00:26:44,869 --> 00:26:47,839

five inch, six inch pad.

 

940

00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:49,708

Then it really doesn't look like much.

 

941

00:26:49,708 --> 00:26:51,242

And I remember when they first came out,

 

942

00:26:51,242 --> 00:26:52,577

they said,

 

943

00:26:52,577 --> 00:26:54,746

we have three of these pads on.

 

944

00:26:54,746 --> 00:26:57,382

A double sided, double stacked room pad

 

945

00:26:57,382 --> 00:26:59,951

will cut about 3000 feet

 

946

00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:01,152

on a sport floor.

 

947

00:27:01,152 --> 00:27:03,922

And I thought, my God, that's

 

948

00:27:03,922 --> 00:27:05,724

that is never going to happen.

 

949

00:27:05,724 --> 00:27:06,925

I've been around the business

 

950

00:27:06,925 --> 00:27:07,792

for a long time

 

951

00:27:07,792 --> 00:27:09,127

and there is nothing out there

 

952

00:27:09,127 --> 00:27:10,729

that can cut 3000 feet.

 

953

00:27:10,729 --> 00:27:12,330

Well,

 

954

00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:14,399

my boss, my son and I,

 

955

00:27:14,399 --> 00:27:17,402

we had a gym, 6000 foot gym.

 

956

00:27:17,602 --> 00:27:18,903

We both started in the middle.

 

957

00:27:18,903 --> 00:27:20,472

We had two sets of pads,

 

958

00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:22,774

one about 1500 feet each had.

 

959

00:27:22,774 --> 00:27:24,609

And, you know, he was headed to one wall.

 

960

00:27:24,609 --> 00:27:26,544

I was heading to the other.

 

961

00:27:26,544 --> 00:27:27,278

We stopped.

 

962

00:27:27,278 --> 00:27:29,114

We lacked a little bit of the dust out

 

963

00:27:29,114 --> 00:27:29,914

and kept going.

 

964

00:27:29,914 --> 00:27:31,783

And it completely

 

965

00:27:31,783 --> 00:27:34,986

cut that 6000 foot gym with six pads.

 

966

00:27:34,986 --> 00:27:37,656

It was absolutely amazing.

 

967

00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:39,324

And the great part about

 

968

00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:40,959

it was on that job,

 

969

00:27:40,959 --> 00:27:42,827

we were using the 180 diamonds.

 

970

00:27:42,827 --> 00:27:46,464

It was a 350 sport polyurethane.

 

971

00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:48,700

We're putting on

 

972

00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,168

the build that was left

 

973

00:27:50,168 --> 00:27:51,036

behind

 

974

00:27:51,036 --> 00:27:53,905

because we didn't remove a lot of finish.

 

975

00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:54,639

What we did

 

976

00:27:54,639 --> 00:27:56,641

was we cleaned the floor with Prep

 

977

00:27:56,641 --> 00:27:58,677

so there was no contaminants.

 

978

00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,145

We were right down to the bare

 

979

00:28:00,145 --> 00:28:01,646

finish, not the bare wood,

 

980

00:28:01,646 --> 00:28:04,249

but we we're down to the bare finish

 

981

00:28:04,249 --> 00:28:07,652

with no contaminants in between.

 

982

00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:11,222

We abraded the floor using the diamonds

 

983

00:28:11,322 --> 00:28:12,624

and I went back the next day

 

984

00:28:12,624 --> 00:28:13,758

to check the job out,

 

985

00:28:13,758 --> 00:28:16,761

and the head of the maintenance

 

986

00:28:16,861 --> 00:28:17,829

department said, No,

 

987

00:28:17,829 --> 00:28:19,097

you can't go in there, it's still wet.

 

988

00:28:19,097 --> 00:28:20,832

And I said, that's

 

989

00:28:20,832 --> 00:28:22,133

really good drying conditions

 

990

00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:23,802

and everything and had good air flow.

 

991

00:28:23,802 --> 00:28:26,171

So I was pretty shocked.

 

992

00:28:26,171 --> 00:28:26,938

That was still wet.

 

993

00:28:26,938 --> 00:28:28,339

It was not wet at all.

 

994

00:28:28,339 --> 00:28:30,942

It was completely dry, but it looked

 

995

00:28:30,942 --> 00:28:33,645

so amazing

 

996

00:28:33,745 --> 00:28:36,648

that he thought the floor was still wet.

 

997

00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:37,248

And it did.

 

998

00:28:37,248 --> 00:28:37,949

It looked

 

999

00:28:37,949 --> 00:28:40,852

unbelievable because with the diamond

 

1000

00:28:40,852 --> 00:28:43,221

we get an amazing scratch pattern,

 

1001

00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:45,290

but we don't remove finish.

 

1002

00:28:45,290 --> 00:28:47,125

You keep the build there.

 

1003

00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:49,194

And build is what you know.

 

1004

00:28:49,194 --> 00:28:50,395

Build is everything.

 

1005

00:28:50,395 --> 00:28:51,529

Build is protection.

 

1006

00:28:51,529 --> 00:28:54,265

Build is, you know, wait for the finish.

 

1007

00:28:54,265 --> 00:28:56,201

But it's also

 

1008

00:28:56,201 --> 00:28:58,903

the cosmetic is just incredible

 

1009

00:28:58,903 --> 00:28:59,404

how it look.

 

1010

00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:02,240

Like I said, it did it did look wet.

 

1011

00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,942

Well, also for Jim, guys,

 

1012

00:29:03,942 --> 00:29:05,143

I was always amazed.

 

1013

00:29:05,143 --> 00:29:05,310

You know,

 

1014

00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:06,311

we didn't do gym floors,

 

1015

00:29:06,311 --> 00:29:08,446

but through this job and others,

 

1016

00:29:08,446 --> 00:29:10,448

I've been around a lot of gym contractors

 

1017

00:29:10,448 --> 00:29:12,383

and did some coats,

 

1018

00:29:12,383 --> 00:29:15,820

coding gym floors and some braiding and

 

1019

00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,155

the swirl marks

 

1020

00:29:17,155 --> 00:29:19,524

the gym contractors get sometimes,

 

1021

00:29:19,524 --> 00:29:20,625

you know, they're doing 10,000

 

1022

00:29:20,625 --> 00:29:21,092

square feet.

 

1023

00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:22,727

Sometimes it's a lot of it's

 

1024

00:29:22,727 --> 00:29:23,561

a lot of a braiding

 

1025

00:29:23,561 --> 00:29:26,264

and and it's always a glossy finish

 

1026

00:29:26,264 --> 00:29:27,699

99% of the time.

 

1027

00:29:27,699 --> 00:29:28,600

What every job I've been on

 

1028

00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,435

has been glass on the gym floor

 

1029

00:29:30,435 --> 00:29:33,438

and it's a recipe for Wal-Mart, Right.

 

1030

00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:34,739

So, absolutely.

 

1031

00:29:34,739 --> 00:29:36,474

I mean, between using gloss

 

1032

00:29:36,474 --> 00:29:38,376

finishes and the new high

 

1033

00:29:38,376 --> 00:29:41,312

intense lighting that's involved with the

 

1034

00:29:41,312 --> 00:29:44,816

sport places, it's that

 

1035

00:29:44,883 --> 00:29:47,852

it's a recipe for disaster.

 

1036

00:29:47,852 --> 00:29:49,554

The thing that you have to remember,

 

1037

00:29:49,554 --> 00:29:50,622

too, is,

 

1038

00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:52,056

you know, back in the old days,

 

1039

00:29:52,056 --> 00:29:53,491

we did everything with 100 grit

 

1040

00:29:53,491 --> 00:29:54,726

shrink as we thought

 

1041

00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:57,729

we needed to get really aggressive.

 

1042

00:29:57,829 --> 00:29:59,664

Lots of dust,

 

1043

00:29:59,664 --> 00:30:01,366

lots a heavy scratch marks

 

1044

00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:03,168

to get good adhesion.

 

1045

00:30:03,168 --> 00:30:04,736

But something that we've learned

 

1046

00:30:04,736 --> 00:30:05,970

through the years, it's

 

1047

00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:07,572

not the depth of the scratch.

 

1048

00:30:07,572 --> 00:30:10,108

It's the number of scratches you put in.

 

1049

00:30:10,108 --> 00:30:11,843

So,

 

1050

00:30:11,843 --> 00:30:12,744

you know, actually

 

1051

00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:14,546

one of the best things you can use

 

1052

00:30:14,546 --> 00:30:15,580

is a maroon pad.

 

1053

00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:17,949

The only issue you have with a room pad,

 

1054

00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:20,051

it's only good for about 700

 

1055

00:30:20,051 --> 00:30:22,754

feet per pad, about 350 feet per side.

 

1056

00:30:22,754 --> 00:30:26,524

So, you know,

 

1057

00:30:26,624 --> 00:30:28,526

when you're doing a large gym

 

1058

00:30:28,526 --> 00:30:30,628

or you know, when you're doing anything,

 

1059

00:30:30,628 --> 00:30:33,264

you have to really make sure

 

1060

00:30:33,264 --> 00:30:34,833

that you're using the right part.

 

1061

00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,367

You're getting the right square footage

 

1062

00:30:36,367 --> 00:30:37,035

out of that pad.

 

1063

00:30:37,035 --> 00:30:37,802

I'm trying to say it,

 

1064

00:30:37,802 --> 00:30:39,437

and I can't figure out how to say it,

 

1065

00:30:39,437 --> 00:30:39,971

but that's it.

 

1066

00:30:39,971 --> 00:30:41,406

You looking to get the right footage

 

1067

00:30:41,406 --> 00:30:42,006

out of that pad?

 

1068

00:30:42,006 --> 00:30:43,441

Because if you don't,

 

1069

00:30:43,441 --> 00:30:45,410

then you could wind up with some issues

 

1070

00:30:45,410 --> 00:30:46,744

and that's what we love about

 

1071

00:30:46,744 --> 00:30:47,545

the diamonds

 

1072

00:30:47,545 --> 00:30:51,115

is the versatility and how far

 

1073

00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:52,984

they'll go.

 

1074

00:30:53,084 --> 00:30:53,818

Yeah, and

 

1075

00:30:53,818 --> 00:30:55,587

I my experience was the same as yours.

 

1076

00:30:55,587 --> 00:30:56,754

I mean, they put it in my hands.

 

1077

00:30:56,754 --> 00:30:57,288

It goes

 

1078

00:30:57,288 --> 00:30:58,890

how much you're going to get out of this.

 

1079

00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:00,091

They said Diamond Abrasives.

 

1080

00:31:00,091 --> 00:31:01,860

I thought just doesn't

 

1081

00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,228

it doesn't look at specials me.

 

1082

00:31:03,228 --> 00:31:05,830

But when you see it on a job man, it is.

 

1083

00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:07,131

And especially the scratch pattern.

 

1084

00:31:07,131 --> 00:31:07,465

It leaves.

 

1085

00:31:07,465 --> 00:31:09,767

Like you said, man, it's a game changer

 

1086

00:31:09,767 --> 00:31:12,604

and the feedback's been incredible.

 

1087

00:31:12,604 --> 00:31:14,873

So that's one option for aluminum

 

1088

00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:16,307

oxide floors.

 

1089

00:31:16,307 --> 00:31:17,408

We talk about the bone

 

1090

00:31:17,408 --> 00:31:18,409

prep, which I

 

1091

00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:20,078

you know, I've got thousands

 

1092

00:31:20,078 --> 00:31:21,312

and thousands square feet of the bone,

 

1093

00:31:21,312 --> 00:31:23,882

a prep done on jobs.

 

1094

00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,584

Be aware that there is a floor out there

 

1095

00:31:26,584 --> 00:31:28,753

that has Scotchgard in it

 

1096

00:31:28,753 --> 00:31:31,322

and nothing sticks to Scotchgard.

 

1097

00:31:31,322 --> 00:31:32,123

And they I know

 

1098

00:31:32,123 --> 00:31:33,324

they've gone around to everybody,

 

1099

00:31:33,324 --> 00:31:34,292

the manufacturers,

 

1100

00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:35,226

to find some way

 

1101

00:31:35,226 --> 00:31:36,728

to stick finish to this product

 

1102

00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,329

and it does not stick.

 

1103

00:31:38,329 --> 00:31:39,864

So while there's not a lot of them out

 

1104

00:31:39,864 --> 00:31:40,798

there, it's a test

 

1105

00:31:40,798 --> 00:31:42,233

that you can do for these floors.

 

1106

00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:43,534

And I think it'd be a good test

 

1107

00:31:43,534 --> 00:31:44,602

for any refinished floor

 

1108

00:31:44,602 --> 00:31:45,403

that you think might have.

 

1109

00:31:45,403 --> 00:31:47,572

It is take a Sharpie

 

1110

00:31:47,572 --> 00:31:49,007

and make a mark on the board

 

1111

00:31:49,007 --> 00:31:50,508

like a three inch mark.

 

1112

00:31:50,508 --> 00:31:51,376

Obviously don't want to do it

 

1113

00:31:51,376 --> 00:31:52,911

right in the middle of the kitchen.

 

1114

00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:55,313

And if it bleeds up

 

1115

00:31:55,313 --> 00:31:56,114

and you could just wipe

 

1116

00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:56,514

right back

 

1117

00:31:56,514 --> 00:31:57,682

off of your finger

 

1118

00:31:57,682 --> 00:31:59,784

that Scotchgard on on the floor

 

1119

00:31:59,784 --> 00:32:00,818

and nothing sticks to it.

 

1120

00:32:00,818 --> 00:32:03,554

So that's another test that you can do.

 

1121

00:32:03,655 --> 00:32:04,222

Like I said.

 

1122

00:32:04,222 --> 00:32:06,457

And what type of floor was that for?

 

1123

00:32:06,457 --> 00:32:08,159

That's for a floor

 

1124

00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:11,162

that has Scotchgard in it in the finish.

 

1125

00:32:11,362 --> 00:32:13,965

Nothing sticks to them, period.

 

1126

00:32:13,965 --> 00:32:15,600

So

 

1127

00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,401

I know a lot of guys

 

1128

00:32:16,401 --> 00:32:18,202

that got that finished.

 

1129

00:32:18,202 --> 00:32:20,071

I don't know the manufacturer, it's it's

 

1130

00:32:20,071 --> 00:32:22,073

one of the larger manufacturers

 

1131

00:32:22,073 --> 00:32:23,942

and I seen some guys

 

1132

00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,343

get their heart broke on that.

 

1133

00:32:25,343 --> 00:32:27,211

And then in the end find out

 

1134

00:32:27,211 --> 00:32:28,179

because I remember that

 

1135

00:32:28,179 --> 00:32:30,148

there was a huge company

 

1136

00:32:30,148 --> 00:32:32,317

in the wood floor industry

 

1137

00:32:32,317 --> 00:32:35,053

that wasn't in the finish market

 

1138

00:32:35,053 --> 00:32:36,354

and they were playing

 

1139

00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:40,391

with the Scotchgard type of finish and

 

1140

00:32:40,491 --> 00:32:42,026

they ended up pulling it off the market

 

1141

00:32:42,026 --> 00:32:42,727

because they just

 

1142

00:32:42,727 --> 00:32:44,595

couldn't get it to work.

 

1143

00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:47,098

Yeah, so I know there's this.

 

1144

00:32:47,098 --> 00:32:47,732

I just wonder

 

1145

00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:48,833

if you ran into some of

 

1146

00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:52,103

those jobs or something. Now,

 

1147

00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:53,438

I don't know what the manufacturer is,

 

1148

00:32:53,438 --> 00:32:54,706

but there's still a few of those jobs

 

1149

00:32:54,706 --> 00:32:55,073

out there.

 

1150

00:32:55,073 --> 00:32:56,174

So it's just,

 

1151

00:32:56,174 --> 00:32:56,874

you know,

 

1152

00:32:56,874 --> 00:32:57,742

it's just again, is

 

1153

00:32:57,742 --> 00:32:58,343

you're doing your due

 

1154

00:32:58,343 --> 00:32:59,477

diligence in your testing

 

1155

00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:01,679

and that's why you have to know

 

1156

00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:02,880

these are going to be moneymakers,

 

1157

00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,382

flat out moneymakers.

 

1158

00:33:04,382 --> 00:33:06,084

There's due diligence.

 

1159

00:33:06,084 --> 00:33:06,684

Yeah. Okay.

 

1160

00:33:06,684 --> 00:33:09,620

You got that. Yeah.

 

1161

00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:11,155

But you got to do your

 

1162

00:33:11,155 --> 00:33:11,723

your homework

 

1163

00:33:11,723 --> 00:33:13,558

up ahead of time and and

 

1164

00:33:13,558 --> 00:33:16,194

and that's what you got to do. Diligence.

 

1165

00:33:16,194 --> 00:33:17,228

I mean. Yeah.

 

1166

00:33:17,228 --> 00:33:18,796

Yeah. Either one of them.

 

1167

00:33:18,796 --> 00:33:21,199

That's right.

 

1168

00:33:21,199 --> 00:33:24,535

So now doing a recode on a

 

1169

00:33:24,535 --> 00:33:26,337

on a pre finished floor.

 

1170

00:33:26,337 --> 00:33:27,839

Now there's another challenge

 

1171

00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,340

is that you got a floor

 

1172

00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:32,543

that's flawless and

 

1173

00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:33,945

now you got to put a job site

 

1174

00:33:33,945 --> 00:33:35,279

finish on it.

 

1175

00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:36,581

So your, your,

 

1176

00:33:36,581 --> 00:33:38,016

your work will be compared

 

1177

00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:40,685

to a perfectly flawless floor.

 

1178

00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:43,488

Now in my case, not an issue.

 

1179

00:33:43,488 --> 00:33:48,526

Raphael Damn, I was going to go there.

 

1180

00:33:48,593 --> 00:33:50,128

You know, I'm thinking,

 

1181

00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:52,163

well, wait for the opening

 

1182

00:33:52,163 --> 00:33:53,631

and then I'll pass.

 

1183

00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:53,931

Right?

 

1184

00:33:53,931 --> 00:33:54,932

That's why I talked fast

 

1185

00:33:54,932 --> 00:33:56,434

when I got there.

 

1186

00:33:56,434 --> 00:33:58,403

You got it. You're learning.

 

1187

00:33:58,403 --> 00:33:58,870

Go on.

 

1188

00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,505

Finish what you're going to say,

 

1189

00:34:00,505 --> 00:34:00,905

you know?

 

1190

00:34:00,905 --> 00:34:01,239

Okay.

 

1191

00:34:01,239 --> 00:34:04,675

Sorry about that flawless finish.

 

1192

00:34:04,742 --> 00:34:07,945

If you do your

 

1193

00:34:08,012 --> 00:34:08,980

work up front.

 

1194

00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:10,848

That's right.

 

1195

00:34:10,848 --> 00:34:14,252

So which includes I mean, this is

 

1196

00:34:14,318 --> 00:34:15,720

we are talking about charging for it.

 

1197

00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:17,221

You know what you're up against.

 

1198

00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:19,157

So you definitely want to charge for it.

 

1199

00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:19,490

You want to

 

1200

00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:21,759

because it's going to take your you know,

 

1201

00:34:21,759 --> 00:34:23,161

you're lost in the woods, man.

 

1202

00:34:23,161 --> 00:34:24,796

You're lost in the woods.

 

1203

00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:26,864

I nailed you.

 

1204

00:34:26,864 --> 00:34:27,398

Remember it?

 

1205

00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:29,067

You were saying?

 

1206

00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:29,934

You were saying you were

 

1207

00:34:29,934 --> 00:34:31,402

comparing the finish

 

1208

00:34:31,402 --> 00:34:34,906

to the pre finish floor

 

1209

00:34:34,972 --> 00:34:35,773

and then you were going

 

1210

00:34:35,773 --> 00:34:36,774

to give a shout out

 

1211

00:34:36,774 --> 00:34:38,443

that you don't have to worry about.

 

1212

00:34:38,443 --> 00:34:40,244

But I probably had to.

 

1213

00:34:40,244 --> 00:34:42,980

So take it from there.

 

1214

00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:45,783

I have no idea what you just said.

 

1215

00:34:45,883 --> 00:34:48,186

You were the one who said it, man not me.

 

1216

00:34:48,186 --> 00:34:50,988

I don't know what that was all about.

 

1217

00:34:50,988 --> 00:34:52,457

You were talking about what

 

1218

00:34:52,457 --> 00:34:53,424

a pretty finished floor

 

1219

00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:54,225

looks like,

 

1220

00:34:54,225 --> 00:34:55,526

and you're going to put a side

 

1221

00:34:55,526 --> 00:34:57,462

finished floor down.

 

1222

00:34:57,462 --> 00:34:58,696

But you wouldn't have to worry

 

1223

00:34:58,696 --> 00:35:01,699

because you're weighing Highlander.

 

1224

00:35:01,732 --> 00:35:03,434

And what would you do?

 

1225

00:35:03,434 --> 00:35:04,135

Rob?

 

1226

00:35:04,135 --> 00:35:05,536

You probably have a lot of issues

 

1227

00:35:05,536 --> 00:35:06,771

trying to match that perfect

 

1228

00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:08,406

finish up, that kind of thing.

 

1229

00:35:08,406 --> 00:35:10,842

I think that's where you work. Okay.

 

1230

00:35:10,842 --> 00:35:15,179

And I think I've said it off.

 

1231

00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:17,415

Hey, are you eating cheese and crackers

 

1232

00:35:17,415 --> 00:35:21,052

right now? No, I was.

 

1233

00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,353

Is that where you're at?

 

1234

00:35:22,353 --> 00:35:23,754

No.

 

1235

00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:26,390

So then this has been another episode

 

1236

00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:27,692

of On the Floor with Wayne

 

1237

00:35:27,692 --> 00:35:29,527

Highlander and Rob Johnson.

 

1238

00:35:29,527 --> 00:35:31,496

Please stay tuned for another episode.