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Hope you.
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Hello and welcome to another episode
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of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
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I'm Wayne Highlander, national sales
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manager for Bowen Adhesives,
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and I'm Rob Johnson.
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Thing only training.
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Well, Rob good afternoon.
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Wayne. How you doing, buddy?
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The. Well, excellent.
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Rob.
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We, we always, we don't always,
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but we do.
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We talk obviously
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a lot about hardwood floors
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and the different components
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of hardwood floors and what have you, but
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I don't know
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if we've ever actually talked about the,
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the wood substrates in particular
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on
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the show.
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So let's talk about some floors.
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A lot of people say
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that's not a very sexy topic, but
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they have no idea.
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So Highlander can do with any blood fan.
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What do you call panty
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drop and blue eyes of yours? Yes.
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Thank you.
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You can make anything sexy.
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So here you go.
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Here's your shot.
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You're going to make some floor sexy.
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So as I turn down the lights,
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you just put that all on me.
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Turn down the music.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You wised off at the last show.
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So now.
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Okay.
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It's all about Wayne.
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Well, okay.
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Tell her about Wayne.
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Thank you.
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But Wayne's World, we're all in it.
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You know, I was thinking, Rob, that,
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if you think of all the things
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that absolutely affect
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your new floor installation,
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that you did not touch it, you did not,
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you know,
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you had nothing to do with it,
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but it can absolutely call you,
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get you drawn into a callback
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or complaint
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at the very top of that list.
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I think you have to talk about some.
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Yeah, I didn't
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and you didn't select this up for
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you didn't install the subfloor,
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you didn't nail it or,
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properly or
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improperly, and
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you didn't protect it from the elements.
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But you know, you're finished
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for is only as good
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as your subfloor beneath it. Right?
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It is what it is.
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Yep.
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If you got a substandard
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floor, it'll create problems.
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long term problems
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and user dissatisfaction
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and all kinds of things.
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And, I said it's,
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something that it's amazing
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how many things that affect us
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in our little niche of that,
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construction world
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that we don't have any, concrete
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same way.
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You know, you don't.
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We didn't pour the concrete.
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We don't know what the see is
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that concrete.
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We don't know what the moisture content.
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Yeah, because lunatics
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like you used to spray it down with water
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because you wanted to make your life
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easier. You're supposed to do that.
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But you know what I mean.
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Like you
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say, if we don't tested or whatever,
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if we don't, you know, do our thing.
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But, there's so many things.
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The Hvac on off
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or running up and running or not,
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you know, the other trades,
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everything affects us.
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And, there's
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a lot of almost comes down
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to the flooring contractor,
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but sub floors is a big one.
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So, you know,
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when it comes to building assets,
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some of the most valuable
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parts of that home are covered.
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You'll never see them.
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And that's the case with the, sub force.
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So,
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well,
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talking about sub floors,
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my brother years ago
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built a house
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in one of the nicest
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neighborhoods in his town.
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He does very well for himself and
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he built,
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or, you know, had a builder build him
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just a phenomenal house, like I said,
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and one of the best neighborhoods.
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And one day he called me up there
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and they were getting ready to, you know,
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it was almost over.
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They were doing the floors.
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They wouldn't allow me to
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do the floors because
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I didn't work for that subcontractor.
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I didn't work for that contractor
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or whatever.
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And, at the time, you know, I wasn't
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contracting any more, but
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still, whatever.
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I couldn't do the floors.
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They had to he had to use his floor guy.
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Crazy weather that we had.
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Crazy winter
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tons and tons and tons of snow.
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And he even questioned
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the builder at one time.
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He's like,
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because now his subfloor is covered
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with snow all the time.
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Freezing to freeze.
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It was a, you know, nightmare.
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Lots of water, lots of rain.
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So anyways, they're installing the floor.
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He says, hey, Ravi,
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can you do me a favor?
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Come on over to the house.
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I'm going to show you something.
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It was OSB plywood
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the guys had left for the day.
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He walks over
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and he goes,
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should you be able to do this
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with hardwood floors?
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And he reaches down and he pulls it out.
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Wow.
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He pulls it right out.
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I'm not kidding you.
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I never saw anything like it
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in all my years doing hardwood floors.
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I can't believe that
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not only is this happening,
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but it's happening to my brother.
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Wow.
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I go, no, dude, that is not.
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That is not something
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that should be happening.
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You you you know this, right?
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He goes. Yeah.
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I didn't think so.
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And he goes, you know,
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I kept talking to him about the subfloor,
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the subfloor.
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And the guy kept telling me, no, no,
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this is special.
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This is special. OSB.
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I said, well, I,
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I don't know what's so special about it.
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You know,
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it looks like it's swelled and shrunk.
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I don't know how many times.
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And it had zero holding
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power for the nails. Wow.
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It was unbelievable.
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I had to rip out
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everything that they had done.
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I was a
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little surprised that
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the floor guy didn't
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mention anything, but.
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Right, right.
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You know the deal.
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Sometimes,
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the high end guys are
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are not using high end guys.
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I don't even want go down that road.
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But anyways,
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not only do
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I have to rip all the floor
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up there to rip subfloor out to
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wow, because subfloor was wow garbage.
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Wow.
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So when you said you want to do
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sub floors, I was like, oh my gosh,
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I remember that absolute brutal
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nightmare my brother had to go through
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with his house. Insane.
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Wow.
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Well, you know, anybody that's ever,
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had a issues with squeaks and creaks
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and, you know,
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movement and sagging and separating
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and what have you.
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They know the effects of a faulty,
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faulty subfloor.
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And, it's
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obviously results
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that can result in callbacks and
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everything and reworks
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and all the way up to, lawsuits. So,
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and and you know what?
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The floor
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guy's going to get pinned for it.
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Of course. Of course. Yeah.
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That's what
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that's what surprised me
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about what my brother went through was
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this guy didn't kind of notice
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this was happening, you know? Right.
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Because once that thing starts
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squeaking and popping and move,
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and if he doesn't say anything now, it's
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it's, well, it's subfloor his fault.
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It's your, you know, it's your floor.
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What did you do.
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Well when, when you lay on it,
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it's it's yours.
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You know what I mean. You. Yeah.
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You're given the green light.
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Yeah. So you know you know.
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That's got to be done up
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front those conversations.
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So, the here's the interesting thing too,
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is that nobody ever thinks
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they need subfloor prep.
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No, nobody.
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No builder.
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No.
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You know,
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they they in their mind,
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they're looking at pricing of flooring
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only.
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They're never
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thinking about the subfloor prep.
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And it's always that gray area
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we talked about before.
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And especially when it comes to
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if you're doing concrete work
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and you have to do any
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a leveling of the self-leveling
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under underlayment,
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Holy smokes.
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What that can do
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to the cost of the job or grinding.
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And if that's not discussed up
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front, man, holy smokes,
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that could ruin the entire job.
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I know a guy right now
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sitting on a really big job
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and that's become a gray area.
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And, so it's, it's a tough place
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to be.
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The demand on subfloor,
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when you said that,
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when you said that about subfloor prep,
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you don't even think you need to do it.
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Subfloor prep for me
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and Pete was to just take a hammer
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and smash down the high edges.
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All right, it's prepped. Let's go. Yeah.
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Not whack that.
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Nail that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Let's go down.
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Beat that, beat that corner down.
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When,
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when we started to do a more and more pre
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finish floors,
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I think when contractors,
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foreign contractors
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got better doing subfloor prep,
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the more they got involved
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because what it was,
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you know,
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we all knew when it was going to be
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sanded, finished.
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I mean,
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a lot of guys, you know, they're not
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they figured
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the sand was going to get it right.
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Right. And that.
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Yes, exactly.
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The sander will take care of that. Yeah.
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So now
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with some of these veneer jobs, you know,
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some of these veneer floors out there,
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they have a good wear layer.
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But they're not that they're not thick.
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They're not three quarter boy.
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They're they're going to match
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right up to that subfloor.
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And if that subfloor in rough shape,
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you know,
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one thing, going from a contractor
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that does most of the unfinished work
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to doing pre finished work
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1000ft², it's not 1000ft²,
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you know what I mean.
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When you have unfinished
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versus pre finished
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because you know
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even just dropping the nail gun over it's
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going to cleats across it or you know
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you know you've
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especially it's
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gotten a little bit better
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now because of the
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because of the trend of the of hand
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scrapes and stuff like that,
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that you remember back in the day
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when they would take a credit card
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in the butt joint and,
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you know, our feeler gauge and say,
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oh, no, I mean, you know,
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that that's just a hair.
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It's just a just a slight.
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Is hair higher than the other, but joint.
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Well, that's a problem.
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So, you know, I, I hated
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I hated laying pre finish floor.
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I would do everything
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not to lay a pre finish floor.
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Just just like you said it just one,
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one stone on your shoe.
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One
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drop the nail or drop a hammer.
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Yeah. Oh my god.
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My hat's off to you guys
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who install refinish floors all day
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because that's you're right.
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That's not 1000ft lay.
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That's that's 1400 feet.
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Yeah.
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If you're charging I'm
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just throwing a number out there.
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It's four bucks a foot
365
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to install unfinished 4000ft².
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And there was got to go up for pre
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fitness right.
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Oh yeah. It's. Yes.
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And then when I see when I see
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you know it's impressive to see
371
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a four that was sanded finish.
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That's you know
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three board border with with maybe
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running on a diagonal
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and you got A34 board
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border around it with the beach strip.
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That's impressive with unfinished.
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But when I see that pre finished
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and I know that guy had a great
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break out the router and
381
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and do all that
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and make sure everything comes up
383
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and just the I mean that's just
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that's a different game man.
385
00:11:07,099 --> 00:11:08,567
That is a different game. Right.
386
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A lot of respect
387
00:11:09,568 --> 00:11:10,536
for those guys to do that.
388
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And there's
389
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also more demands
390
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put on sub floors today.
391
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You know, when they have the open, open
392
00:11:18,077 --> 00:11:20,046
concept rooms, the
393
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the heavier stone is being put down,
394
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you know, so,
395
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it's up floors and,
396
00:11:26,886 --> 00:11:28,788
you know, it's a big deal right now.
397
00:11:28,788 --> 00:11:30,523
And,
398
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and the even the, stiffness
399
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you probably you ever had
400
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a problem
401
00:11:36,662 --> 00:11:39,932
was stiffness rub on my subfloor,
402
00:11:40,599 --> 00:11:41,333
and you think
403
00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:42,401
you're getting up in the morning
404
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as you're getting older and age.
405
00:11:43,669 --> 00:11:45,471
I mean,
406
00:11:45,471 --> 00:11:47,239
very stiff. Yes.
407
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Very stiff.
408
00:11:48,607 --> 00:11:49,208
Yeah. Yes.
409
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We had,
410
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you know, you left,
411
00:11:51,677 --> 00:11:52,812
everybody went out there
412
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and doing yoga, but, I think, maybe the
413
00:11:56,282 --> 00:11:57,516
they were way ahead of the game.
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00:11:57,516 --> 00:11:57,883
Yeah.
415
00:11:57,883 --> 00:12:00,886
Stretch that stiffness right out.
416
00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,523
See,
417
00:12:04,523 --> 00:12:05,224
Strength.
418
00:12:05,224 --> 00:12:06,125
Durability.
419
00:12:06,125 --> 00:12:06,959
That's what you need with
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these sub floors now? Yep.
421
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I didn't
422
00:12:10,930 --> 00:12:13,933
even think about.
423
00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,569
If you're using marble countertops
424
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and stuff, that extra weight
425
00:12:17,870 --> 00:12:20,873
and yeah, it's going to have to.
426
00:12:22,608 --> 00:12:25,044
It it, makes a big difference now.
427
00:12:25,044 --> 00:12:27,179
I mean, here's the thing.
428
00:12:27,179 --> 00:12:28,314
You know, these things
429
00:12:28,314 --> 00:12:29,849
that there's so much money on these jobs
430
00:12:29,849 --> 00:12:32,284
now, the houses cost so much money.
431
00:12:32,284 --> 00:12:34,153
I remember, you know,
432
00:12:34,153 --> 00:12:35,454
when the housing boom
433
00:12:35,454 --> 00:12:36,956
really started in California.
434
00:12:36,956 --> 00:12:40,059
Let me back in the, the 80s and 90s when,
435
00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:41,227
you know,
436
00:12:41,227 --> 00:12:42,394
1200 square feet home,
437
00:12:42,394 --> 00:12:43,562
that should be like 80 grand.
438
00:12:43,562 --> 00:12:43,996
Now, also
439
00:12:43,996 --> 00:12:46,732
in that same home is like 700 grand.
440
00:12:46,732 --> 00:12:48,701
Now, like it's the Taj Mahal, right?
441
00:12:48,701 --> 00:12:48,934
I mean,
442
00:12:48,934 --> 00:12:49,802
now the
443
00:12:49,802 --> 00:12:51,470
everything you do is, like, so important
444
00:12:51,470 --> 00:12:53,405
because that was a $700,000 home.
445
00:12:53,405 --> 00:12:55,508
Meanwhile, you got
446
00:12:55,508 --> 00:12:56,275
100 grand.
447
00:12:56,275 --> 00:12:57,176
You know what I mean?
448
00:12:57,176 --> 00:13:00,546
Just so now, with all the expensive,
449
00:13:00,546 --> 00:13:01,180
the materials,
450
00:13:01,180 --> 00:13:02,982
the expensive labor, the expense of,
451
00:13:02,982 --> 00:13:04,650
doing, doing business,
452
00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:06,952
that there's a lot of onus on us now.
453
00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:08,554
So I think this up for the
454
00:13:08,554 --> 00:13:09,889
holding power of suppliers,
455
00:13:11,056 --> 00:13:13,058
is is questionable with a lot of times
456
00:13:13,058 --> 00:13:14,627
with OSB floors
457
00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:15,761
and how well did they handle
458
00:13:15,761 --> 00:13:17,229
seasonal changes.
459
00:13:17,229 --> 00:13:19,165
So you couple that
460
00:13:19,165 --> 00:13:22,168
with the white plank floors.
461
00:13:22,268 --> 00:13:23,435
Deflection a lot of times
462
00:13:23,435 --> 00:13:25,838
the subfloor is, what is it, 19.2in?
463
00:13:25,838 --> 00:13:27,039
I think they need to be on center.
464
00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:29,708
That was the maximum width.
465
00:13:29,708 --> 00:13:32,711
And some of the other framing components,
466
00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:35,781
that, I think it lines up
467
00:13:35,781 --> 00:13:38,784
in a very smart way to,
468
00:13:39,485 --> 00:13:41,020
to protect yourself
469
00:13:41,020 --> 00:13:42,555
by doing the nail glosses
470
00:13:42,555 --> 00:13:43,923
and by doing the, the, the,
471
00:13:43,923 --> 00:13:46,625
the moisture barrier. There are 540.
472
00:13:46,625 --> 00:13:47,526
I mean, you
473
00:13:47,526 --> 00:13:49,028
you look at what you've got going on
474
00:13:49,028 --> 00:13:50,896
your side of the equation,
475
00:13:50,896 --> 00:13:51,463
you know,
476
00:13:51,463 --> 00:13:53,799
and what you have going against you.
477
00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:55,334
And it's frightening sometimes
478
00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:57,670
when I remember when I was, when I was
479
00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:58,938
sat down and like,
480
00:13:58,938 --> 00:13:59,905
really studied
481
00:13:59,905 --> 00:14:01,407
this and thought about this.
482
00:14:01,407 --> 00:14:01,807
All right, here's
483
00:14:01,807 --> 00:14:02,408
what I got going on
484
00:14:02,408 --> 00:14:03,609
my side of the equation.
485
00:14:03,609 --> 00:14:05,811
There's these 4 or 5 things.
486
00:14:05,811 --> 00:14:07,179
Here's a, here's a
487
00:14:07,179 --> 00:14:08,447
the other side of the equation
488
00:14:08,447 --> 00:14:10,282
that could possibly go against me.
489
00:14:10,282 --> 00:14:11,617
And the list kept getting longer
490
00:14:11,617 --> 00:14:13,652
and longer and longer and longer.
491
00:14:13,652 --> 00:14:14,053
And it's like
492
00:14:14,053 --> 00:14:15,688
you got to protect yourself.
493
00:14:15,688 --> 00:14:16,388
You know what I mean?
494
00:14:16,388 --> 00:14:18,524
And and, Ling, as you said,
495
00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:19,959
you know, you're laying on that subfloor.
496
00:14:19,959 --> 00:14:21,527
Well, then then you own that, right?
497
00:14:21,527 --> 00:14:22,428
You're basically saying
498
00:14:22,428 --> 00:14:23,195
you're the professional
499
00:14:23,195 --> 00:14:24,563
that that it's a it's good to go.
500
00:14:24,563 --> 00:14:25,097
It's good enough
501
00:14:25,097 --> 00:14:28,100
that I can just throw my floor on and,
502
00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:30,669
like I said, I think we
503
00:14:30,669 --> 00:14:32,304
take a lot of the onus on us
504
00:14:32,304 --> 00:14:33,672
in this industry that.
505
00:14:33,672 --> 00:14:35,574
So you need to put as many things
506
00:14:35,574 --> 00:14:36,575
on your side of the equation
507
00:14:36,575 --> 00:14:38,077
as you possibly can.
508
00:14:38,077 --> 00:14:39,144
You know,
509
00:14:39,144 --> 00:14:41,947
you know, you'd be very proud of me
510
00:14:41,947 --> 00:14:44,216
if you came to some of the schools now,
511
00:14:44,216 --> 00:14:46,085
you'd be very happy.
512
00:14:46,085 --> 00:14:48,120
You might even want to hire me.
513
00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:48,888
Be in here, team.
514
00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:51,891
No no no no, you you might.
515
00:14:52,057 --> 00:14:53,492
Listen,
516
00:14:53,492 --> 00:14:56,362
you have got me as a true believer
517
00:14:56,362 --> 00:14:59,365
in the 540 when I get going.
518
00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:02,401
I'm talking about the R5 40
519
00:15:02,401 --> 00:15:05,404
and it being not a moisture barrier,
520
00:15:05,838 --> 00:15:08,841
but a moisture mitigation system.
521
00:15:09,041 --> 00:15:11,410
And I tell people exactly how it works
522
00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:13,245
and why it has to work like that.
523
00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:15,247
I let me tell you,
524
00:15:15,247 --> 00:15:16,982
not a dry eye in the house,
525
00:15:16,982 --> 00:15:19,418
not a dry eye in the house.
526
00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:20,419
Oh, yeah.
527
00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:22,655
That's that's I'm telling you,
528
00:15:24,356 --> 00:15:26,158
I believe in that stuff, man.
529
00:15:26,158 --> 00:15:29,161
That is,
530
00:15:29,228 --> 00:15:30,596
I go to my daughter's house.
531
00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:32,798
I laid her floors three inch.
532
00:15:32,798 --> 00:15:35,601
It was only three inch
533
00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:36,769
a cup.
534
00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:38,137
I did everything right.
535
00:15:38,137 --> 00:15:40,205
Everything was perfect.
536
00:15:40,205 --> 00:15:42,107
We go back in for Christmas.
537
00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:43,709
She's like one of the.
538
00:15:43,709 --> 00:15:45,844
And I'm like, oh, my God, the floor cup.
539
00:15:45,844 --> 00:15:48,213
How could it cup on me?
540
00:15:48,213 --> 00:15:49,214
Right.
541
00:15:49,214 --> 00:15:51,350
And I have to be there all the time.
542
00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:52,484
Look at the floor.
543
00:15:52,484 --> 00:15:53,619
Look at
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00:15:53,619 --> 00:15:55,721
even the little grandkids at that Bubba.
545
00:15:55,721 --> 00:15:58,624
Look at that. Yeah, yeah I, I see that.
546
00:15:58,624 --> 00:15:59,925
Did your mother tell you to say that
547
00:15:59,925 --> 00:16:01,660
or you just really
548
00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:04,663
trying to hurt up this feeling?
549
00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:07,666
I, I would use it on everything.
550
00:16:07,666 --> 00:16:09,501
Two and a quarter. Three.
551
00:16:09,501 --> 00:16:10,202
I would
552
00:16:10,202 --> 00:16:11,370
there's no reason
553
00:16:11,370 --> 00:16:14,340
I would never not use that product.
554
00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:16,775
Especially after you really find out how
555
00:16:16,775 --> 00:16:18,344
it works and why it works.
556
00:16:20,412 --> 00:16:23,415
You'd be crazy not to.
557
00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:24,283
Crazy not to.
558
00:16:24,283 --> 00:16:26,652
And I think it's an upsell to.
559
00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:27,186
Yeah, I think it's
560
00:16:27,186 --> 00:16:29,555
another upsell opportunity.
561
00:16:29,555 --> 00:16:30,789
It absolutely is.
562
00:16:30,789 --> 00:16:31,757
And, you know,
563
00:16:31,757 --> 00:16:32,057
you see
564
00:16:32,057 --> 00:16:33,592
a lot of builders are choosing OSB
565
00:16:33,592 --> 00:16:35,027
because it typically, typically
566
00:16:35,027 --> 00:16:36,628
cost less than plywood.
567
00:16:36,628 --> 00:16:37,563
You don't have the knots in it
568
00:16:37,563 --> 00:16:39,465
in the voids and stuff like that.
569
00:16:39,465 --> 00:16:42,401
But the whole key is is managing
570
00:16:42,401 --> 00:16:44,803
and mitigating the moisture.
571
00:16:44,803 --> 00:16:47,139
To be have a successful installation.
572
00:16:47,139 --> 00:16:49,808
And I really do believe that
573
00:16:49,808 --> 00:16:50,409
in the minimum
574
00:16:50,409 --> 00:16:50,843
and they'll go
575
00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:52,277
assist on these type of floors
576
00:16:52,277 --> 00:16:53,545
because of the way,
577
00:16:53,545 --> 00:16:55,014
the way that they hold the nails
578
00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:57,483
and what have you and the fasteners,
579
00:16:57,483 --> 00:16:58,484
is a must.
580
00:16:58,484 --> 00:17:00,185
It is your defense against
581
00:17:00,185 --> 00:17:02,287
what's changed in the industry.
582
00:17:02,287 --> 00:17:03,022
It's like,
583
00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:04,556
okay, well, all these things are coming.
584
00:17:04,556 --> 00:17:06,759
You know, it's we're litigious society.
585
00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:07,693
We live in now,
586
00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:08,827
you know, all these pressures on us
587
00:17:08,827 --> 00:17:09,862
and what have you.
588
00:17:09,862 --> 00:17:10,696
Then,
589
00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:12,164
for the business guy, you got a
590
00:17:12,164 --> 00:17:13,599
it's your self-defense
591
00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:15,234
against a changing world
592
00:17:15,234 --> 00:17:16,735
and protecting your business.
593
00:17:16,735 --> 00:17:17,436
It just is.
594
00:17:17,436 --> 00:17:18,737
And I just think that,
595
00:17:18,737 --> 00:17:18,937
you know,
596
00:17:18,937 --> 00:17:19,671
we've I've said
597
00:17:19,671 --> 00:17:20,739
before, building paper
598
00:17:20,739 --> 00:17:23,108
is not much of a deterrent
599
00:17:23,108 --> 00:17:24,910
if you have moisture issues.
600
00:17:24,910 --> 00:17:27,813
And, hey, you know, at the time,
601
00:17:27,813 --> 00:17:28,814
that's really all we had.
602
00:17:30,382 --> 00:17:30,883
Yeah,
603
00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:33,886
that's all we had, you know, now
604
00:17:34,586 --> 00:17:35,521
with the improvements
605
00:17:35,521 --> 00:17:37,656
and everything in this product,
606
00:17:37,656 --> 00:17:40,092
you're just crazy not to do it.
607
00:17:40,092 --> 00:17:40,459
It's funny.
608
00:17:40,459 --> 00:17:43,295
You said you would be so happy
609
00:17:43,295 --> 00:17:44,229
if you heard me.
610
00:17:44,229 --> 00:17:45,697
I might even do it when you.
611
00:17:45,697 --> 00:17:46,565
You're
612
00:17:46,565 --> 00:17:47,866
you're going to be with me next week.
613
00:17:47,866 --> 00:17:49,568
Maybe, maybe I'll.
614
00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:50,502
I'll show you the love.
615
00:17:50,502 --> 00:17:52,204
I'll show you how to do it.
616
00:17:52,204 --> 00:17:53,939
I would like to see that.
617
00:17:53,939 --> 00:17:54,940
I'd like to see you in action.
618
00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:55,974
I would actually like to see you
619
00:17:55,974 --> 00:17:58,043
on a cell call.
620
00:17:58,043 --> 00:17:59,812
Yeah,
621
00:17:59,812 --> 00:18:02,047
it's funny you said your daughter's, four
622
00:18:02,047 --> 00:18:04,116
is three inches in it and a couple,
623
00:18:04,116 --> 00:18:06,051
because in the Bay area
624
00:18:06,051 --> 00:18:06,518
for it
625
00:18:06,518 --> 00:18:08,587
always seemed like never a problem
626
00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:09,888
with three inches.
627
00:18:09,888 --> 00:18:10,856
Go to three and a quarter,
628
00:18:12,057 --> 00:18:12,558
and then one of
629
00:18:12,558 --> 00:18:14,593
them to the ones that one of the cup,
630
00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:15,961
I mean, three inches you have.
631
00:18:15,961 --> 00:18:17,629
You're always okay. Yeah.
632
00:18:17,629 --> 00:18:18,530
You worry about too much,
633
00:18:18,530 --> 00:18:21,100
but for some reason and that 3.25in on us
634
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:22,267
was the rid of three
635
00:18:22,267 --> 00:18:22,668
and a quarter
636
00:18:22,668 --> 00:18:24,703
was a pretty common back in the day.
637
00:18:24,703 --> 00:18:26,105
And they're the ones that you
638
00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:29,108
I don't worry about a little bit.
639
00:18:29,975 --> 00:18:32,644
You would love your sales call.
640
00:18:32,644 --> 00:18:35,647
I would you would definitely.
641
00:18:36,048 --> 00:18:38,117
You would love to see me on a sales call.
642
00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:41,120
I'm a fun guy on a sales call.
643
00:18:41,353 --> 00:18:43,088
I'm a fun guy.
644
00:18:43,088 --> 00:18:44,890
And that might not be
645
00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:47,893
what you're looking for in a sales guy.
646
00:18:48,227 --> 00:18:48,894
You know what?
647
00:18:48,894 --> 00:18:49,995
You ever seen a sales guy
648
00:18:49,995 --> 00:18:51,396
just completely die?
649
00:18:51,396 --> 00:18:53,198
And I go, yo, guy.
650
00:18:53,198 --> 00:18:56,468
Yeah, I have, isn't it the best I have?
651
00:18:56,768 --> 00:18:57,603
Yeah, yeah.
652
00:18:57,603 --> 00:18:59,538
One time I did it in front of the boss.
653
00:18:59,538 --> 00:19:01,673
Oh, yeah, I was.
654
00:19:01,673 --> 00:19:02,841
But I'll tell you
655
00:19:02,841 --> 00:19:04,643
a quick little story about sales call.
656
00:19:04,643 --> 00:19:05,144
I was on.
657
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,182
It was a Jansen call,
658
00:19:10,182 --> 00:19:13,185
and, were meeting with the
659
00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:16,155
head of buildings
660
00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:16,955
and grounds
661
00:19:16,955 --> 00:19:17,956
for Brunswick,
662
00:19:17,956 --> 00:19:19,458
new Jersey central schools.
663
00:19:19,458 --> 00:19:22,227
A lot of gyms, a lot of gyms.
664
00:19:22,227 --> 00:19:23,862
Right.
665
00:19:23,862 --> 00:19:26,798
So we're sitting in his office now with,
666
00:19:26,798 --> 00:19:28,433
Jansen distributors.
667
00:19:28,433 --> 00:19:30,836
Salesperson. Right.
668
00:19:30,836 --> 00:19:32,971
They buy bone now I'm in there.
669
00:19:32,971 --> 00:19:34,806
Me in the sales rep.
670
00:19:34,806 --> 00:19:37,242
And there's like two clipboard people
671
00:19:37,242 --> 00:19:40,145
and this huge guy,
672
00:19:40,145 --> 00:19:42,681
and he is in charge of everything.
673
00:19:42,681 --> 00:19:44,950
And he lets everybody know
674
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:46,485
he's in charge of everybody.
675
00:19:46,485 --> 00:19:48,453
He's in charge of this meeting.
676
00:19:48,453 --> 00:19:50,422
You know what I mean.
677
00:19:50,422 --> 00:19:52,057
Look out.
678
00:19:52,057 --> 00:19:53,559
He walks into the room.
679
00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:55,460
That's how this dude carries himself.
680
00:19:55,460 --> 00:19:57,796
And I'm like here we go brother.
681
00:19:57,796 --> 00:19:59,965
Okay here we go.
682
00:19:59,965 --> 00:20:01,567
He sits down.
683
00:20:01,567 --> 00:20:03,068
He looks across at me
684
00:20:03,068 --> 00:20:04,770
and he goes, you know we've looked at
685
00:20:06,238 --> 00:20:06,905
we've looked at
686
00:20:06,905 --> 00:20:08,106
bona and he goes,
687
00:20:08,106 --> 00:20:08,874
you know what else
688
00:20:08,874 --> 00:20:11,076
we've looked at Hilliard.
689
00:20:11,076 --> 00:20:13,812
I like both sleeves.
690
00:20:13,812 --> 00:20:15,347
Okay.
691
00:20:15,347 --> 00:20:17,149
You you told his story.
692
00:20:17,149 --> 00:20:18,917
Like I just
693
00:20:18,917 --> 00:20:20,819
literally just listened to this episode
694
00:20:20,819 --> 00:20:22,054
exactly the same time.
695
00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:22,721
Are you serious?
696
00:20:22,721 --> 00:20:24,256
I already told this story,
697
00:20:24,256 --> 00:20:25,424
like two episodes ago.
698
00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:26,658
You told this story?
699
00:20:26,658 --> 00:20:27,459
Oh, man.
700
00:20:27,459 --> 00:20:29,394
Literally, literally two episodes.
701
00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:30,529
Let me finish it for you.
702
00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:32,097
Let me finish. Let me.
703
00:20:32,097 --> 00:20:35,100
So he said, where's my freaking head?
704
00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:36,868
Why should I hire you?
705
00:20:36,868 --> 00:20:38,437
Why should you hire me?
706
00:20:38,437 --> 00:20:40,505
Because they don't have Rob Johnson.
707
00:20:40,505 --> 00:20:41,406
Bingo.
708
00:20:41,406 --> 00:20:42,307
We went outside
709
00:20:42,307 --> 00:20:43,642
and that was just, you know. Right.
710
00:20:43,642 --> 00:20:45,277
Maybe we'll start telling that story.
711
00:20:45,277 --> 00:20:46,044
You know, we're going to do.
712
00:20:46,044 --> 00:20:49,047
We're gonna tell that story every show.
713
00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:51,250
One of my favorite sales goals ever.
714
00:20:53,051 --> 00:20:54,319
And we got it.
715
00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:56,255
I can't believe I told that story.
716
00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:58,490
So you have to look so good in my head
717
00:20:58,490 --> 00:21:01,293
when I talked about, you know, we have,
718
00:21:01,293 --> 00:21:03,595
you know, to protect ourselves,
719
00:21:03,595 --> 00:21:04,529
and protect our business
720
00:21:04,529 --> 00:21:05,931
and protect our schedule and protect
721
00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:06,999
our, our money that's in
722
00:21:06,999 --> 00:21:07,899
our bank
723
00:21:07,899 --> 00:21:10,302
is using the 540 in the adhesives.
724
00:21:10,302 --> 00:21:11,670
You don't see the elevator guy
725
00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:13,105
come out to the job
726
00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:14,139
and say, you know,
727
00:21:14,139 --> 00:21:16,308
I think I can save a little bit of money.
728
00:21:16,308 --> 00:21:19,311
I'll leave one of the cables out.
729
00:21:22,914 --> 00:21:24,583
So why would we do the same?
730
00:21:24,583 --> 00:21:25,183
Why would we?
731
00:21:25,183 --> 00:21:25,684
Wait a minute.
732
00:21:25,684 --> 00:21:27,653
How much money could you save?
733
00:21:27,653 --> 00:21:28,320
I gotta believe it's
734
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,588
a pretty good savings. There's.
735
00:21:29,588 --> 00:21:30,922
You know, you see these elevators?
736
00:21:30,922 --> 00:21:31,957
They get all these.
737
00:21:31,957 --> 00:21:33,525
Do they really need every one?
738
00:21:34,526 --> 00:21:36,495
Well, not until they do.
739
00:21:36,495 --> 00:21:38,163
Yeah, yeah.
740
00:21:38,163 --> 00:21:39,231
So, but
741
00:21:39,231 --> 00:21:42,234
but I mean, I'm in all seriousness,
742
00:21:43,068 --> 00:21:46,171
they they will protect themselves
743
00:21:46,171 --> 00:21:47,172
by doing. You know what I mean?
744
00:21:47,172 --> 00:21:47,873
When rebar
745
00:21:47,873 --> 00:21:49,675
when they put rebar in the gate,
746
00:21:49,675 --> 00:21:50,709
you know, the guy does say,
747
00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:52,577
you know what,
748
00:21:52,577 --> 00:21:53,145
let's just leave.
749
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:54,112
We can tell you what we can
750
00:21:54,112 --> 00:21:56,548
leave out every other rebar,
751
00:21:56,548 --> 00:21:57,883
in the concrete because it'll,
752
00:21:57,883 --> 00:21:59,084
you know, save money on the rebar.
753
00:21:59,084 --> 00:21:59,718
We'll do that for.
754
00:21:59,718 --> 00:22:01,553
You know what I mean?
755
00:22:01,553 --> 00:22:03,689
Obviously, when they do that,
756
00:22:03,689 --> 00:22:05,223
actually, I'll tell you a story, though.
757
00:22:05,223 --> 00:22:06,892
An awful story, about that,
758
00:22:06,892 --> 00:22:07,826
it just came to mind.
759
00:22:07,826 --> 00:22:10,195
You remember the earthquake in California
760
00:22:10,195 --> 00:22:11,830
in the Bay area?
761
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:14,032
A's were playing the Giants in the,
762
00:22:14,032 --> 00:22:15,667
World Series,
763
00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:16,935
and there was an earthquake.
764
00:22:16,935 --> 00:22:17,936
I remember.
765
00:22:19,971 --> 00:22:22,841
Peter and I were quoting a job.
766
00:22:22,841 --> 00:22:24,876
We're quoting a huge job.
767
00:22:24,876 --> 00:22:26,745
The guy and live way out in the woods.
768
00:22:26,745 --> 00:22:28,380
We're in a huge job.
769
00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:29,781
And we had the World
770
00:22:29,781 --> 00:22:32,784
Series on why we were okay.
771
00:22:32,918 --> 00:22:34,086
And as we were coating,
772
00:22:34,086 --> 00:22:36,088
and all of a sudden,
773
00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:36,221
I.
774
00:22:36,221 --> 00:22:37,389
Yeah, I remember that
775
00:22:37,389 --> 00:22:39,324
like it was yesterday.
776
00:22:39,324 --> 00:22:41,660
Okay, bring it to that house.
777
00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:43,061
I don't I don't know if at the time
778
00:22:43,061 --> 00:22:44,329
it was highway 17 or it,
779
00:22:44,329 --> 00:22:45,797
it changed over to highway 8080.
780
00:22:45,797 --> 00:22:48,100
But this a highway was collapsing right.
781
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:48,633
Yes.
782
00:22:48,633 --> 00:22:49,368
It ran
783
00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:51,269
that highway ran through Oakland
784
00:22:51,269 --> 00:22:53,004
and there was an upper and lower.
785
00:22:53,004 --> 00:22:55,707
If you're going say, east, you're on
786
00:22:55,707 --> 00:22:56,742
the lower section, you're going
787
00:22:56,742 --> 00:22:57,809
west, you're on the,
788
00:22:57,809 --> 00:22:58,877
on the upper section.
789
00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:01,079
Okay, I remember that. Okay.
790
00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:02,748
So what happened was
791
00:23:02,748 --> 00:23:04,216
when the earthquake happened.
792
00:23:04,216 --> 00:23:05,550
Yeah, the one floor
793
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:06,818
collapsed on the other.
794
00:23:06,818 --> 00:23:08,553
So all the cars driving
795
00:23:08,553 --> 00:23:10,655
below were all smashed
796
00:23:10,655 --> 00:23:12,591
from the upper one. Right.
797
00:23:12,591 --> 00:23:13,692
And so that was a huge,
798
00:23:13,692 --> 00:23:14,659
you know, California,
799
00:23:14,659 --> 00:23:15,727
say what you want,
800
00:23:15,727 --> 00:23:18,263
but they do a great job when it comes to,
801
00:23:18,263 --> 00:23:20,399
protecting for earthquakes, right?
802
00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:20,632
I mean,
803
00:23:20,632 --> 00:23:21,633
they built it into that,
804
00:23:21,633 --> 00:23:21,900
you know,
805
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:23,201
when they build these structures
806
00:23:23,201 --> 00:23:25,036
and what have you, it's they
807
00:23:25,036 --> 00:23:25,604
they do that
808
00:23:25,604 --> 00:23:27,339
with your earthquakes in mind.
809
00:23:27,339 --> 00:23:28,507
So it was a little surprising
810
00:23:28,507 --> 00:23:30,275
when this freeway with it
811
00:23:30,275 --> 00:23:31,710
that wasn't really
812
00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:33,612
like a devastating earthquake,
813
00:23:33,612 --> 00:23:35,180
but it collapsed onto the other one
814
00:23:35,180 --> 00:23:38,083
and killed many, many, many people. Okay.
815
00:23:38,083 --> 00:23:39,851
And I remember
816
00:23:39,851 --> 00:23:41,019
they were digging people out of
817
00:23:41,019 --> 00:23:43,889
there for. Yeah. Yep. They've
818
00:23:45,157 --> 00:23:46,358
they investigated.
819
00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:47,659
Well why did this happen.
820
00:23:47,659 --> 00:23:48,960
And it took months
821
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,129
this investigation to come through
822
00:23:51,129 --> 00:23:52,230
and it, it got down to
823
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:53,265
they realize what happened
824
00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:55,000
was when they the support beams
825
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,601
that come up in the freeway,
826
00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:58,303
they have rebar in it. Right.
827
00:23:58,303 --> 00:23:58,537
Yeah.
828
00:23:58,537 --> 00:23:59,704
And you're supposed to put rebar
829
00:23:59,704 --> 00:24:01,807
going around them as well.
830
00:24:01,807 --> 00:24:04,242
Well, the engineer or somebody
831
00:24:04,242 --> 00:24:07,145
left the dock and put those in,
832
00:24:07,145 --> 00:24:08,180
and they, they,
833
00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:09,881
they eventually went to him, retired.
834
00:24:09,881 --> 00:24:11,516
Now an old guy
835
00:24:11,516 --> 00:24:13,418
and, they said, hey,
836
00:24:13,418 --> 00:24:14,886
you know, it called in the plans.
837
00:24:14,886 --> 00:24:16,688
You didn't put those in. There he goes.
838
00:24:16,688 --> 00:24:19,658
My whole life I worried about that.
839
00:24:20,492 --> 00:24:21,193
Wow.
840
00:24:21,193 --> 00:24:23,261
Isn't that something,
841
00:24:23,261 --> 00:24:24,729
that that that would happen,
842
00:24:24,729 --> 00:24:25,797
you know, how would you like me?
843
00:24:25,797 --> 00:24:27,699
That you ever had anything in the floor
844
00:24:27,699 --> 00:24:29,468
business hanging over your head
845
00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,203
like you did something
846
00:24:31,203 --> 00:24:31,970
and you did the job?
847
00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:32,437
Whatever.
848
00:24:32,437 --> 00:24:33,004
But there was just
849
00:24:33,004 --> 00:24:35,273
something nagging at you that, you know,
850
00:24:35,273 --> 00:24:36,374
not that you were trying.
851
00:24:36,374 --> 00:24:37,108
You know, that you're
852
00:24:37,108 --> 00:24:38,210
trying to take a short cut or some.
853
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:39,478
But something about the job,
854
00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:40,412
maybe it was
855
00:24:40,412 --> 00:24:41,646
a little better than you thought
856
00:24:41,646 --> 00:24:42,247
it might be,
857
00:24:42,247 --> 00:24:43,548
or that you thought, yeah, I'm
858
00:24:43,548 --> 00:24:44,249
riding the fence
859
00:24:44,249 --> 00:24:45,817
and having to wet or not.
860
00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:46,384
Not I,
861
00:24:46,384 --> 00:24:47,886
you know, it's such a pressure thing.
862
00:24:47,886 --> 00:24:49,354
I got to get it done
863
00:24:49,354 --> 00:24:50,622
and then know I never thought that.
864
00:24:50,622 --> 00:24:52,324
I always thought I was perfect.
865
00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:53,625
Me neither. But I'm just saying,
866
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:56,061
no, I
867
00:24:56,061 --> 00:24:59,664
tell you, I have, and then you you you.
868
00:25:00,465 --> 00:25:01,466
It just doesn't go away.
869
00:25:01,466 --> 00:25:02,767
You you worry that.
870
00:25:02,767 --> 00:25:05,403
You know what a waste I would have.
871
00:25:05,403 --> 00:25:05,904
You know what I mean?
872
00:25:05,904 --> 00:25:06,338
Or maybe.
873
00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:08,106
See, this is an amazing part of you.
874
00:25:08,106 --> 00:25:10,675
Me that a lot of people don't know.
875
00:25:10,675 --> 00:25:12,878
I don't worry,
876
00:25:12,878 --> 00:25:13,712
no kidding.
877
00:25:13,712 --> 00:25:16,214
I don't carry around that bag of bricks.
878
00:25:16,214 --> 00:25:16,548
Okay?
879
00:25:16,548 --> 00:25:19,551
Pauline does all that for me.
880
00:25:19,818 --> 00:25:21,052
You seem like a guy
881
00:25:21,052 --> 00:25:22,654
who might have a lot of bag,
882
00:25:22,654 --> 00:25:24,322
a lot of bricks in your bag, Gary.
883
00:25:24,322 --> 00:25:27,158
And around me.
884
00:25:27,158 --> 00:25:28,226
Always empty.
885
00:25:28,226 --> 00:25:29,561
It's always empty. Yeah.
886
00:25:29,561 --> 00:25:31,997
I sleep like a baby all the time.
887
00:25:31,997 --> 00:25:34,266
You're like, no bricks in my bag. You.
888
00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:35,400
I can see you carry
889
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,968
around a lot of bricks.
890
00:25:36,968 --> 00:25:38,970
My father in law would say about you.
891
00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:39,838
You're like a chicken.
892
00:25:39,838 --> 00:25:41,573
Every day is a brand new day. Yeah,
893
00:25:43,241 --> 00:25:44,509
almost.
894
00:25:44,509 --> 00:25:45,844
He's almost right.
895
00:25:45,844 --> 00:25:47,178
Now, I know you're busting
896
00:25:47,178 --> 00:25:50,181
my chops about a repeat story.
897
00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:53,919
You see the difference between you and I.
898
00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:55,854
You couldn't wait to jump on me.
899
00:25:55,854 --> 00:25:57,822
And the last show,
900
00:25:57,822 --> 00:26:00,625
we had already heard that fish and story.
901
00:26:00,625 --> 00:26:02,060
The kid with the fishing story.
902
00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:03,862
You told us that one before.
903
00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:04,629
Well, you should have stopped.
904
00:26:04,629 --> 00:26:06,565
But, you see, the difference is,
905
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,533
I was like, that's a nice story.
906
00:26:08,533 --> 00:26:09,534
You know,
907
00:26:09,534 --> 00:26:10,969
that's how friends are
908
00:26:10,969 --> 00:26:12,604
a lot of people who listen to us,
909
00:26:12,604 --> 00:26:14,439
we're we're all friends now.
910
00:26:14,439 --> 00:26:16,708
Sometimes friends repeat stories.
911
00:26:16,708 --> 00:26:18,577
You don't have to gang up on it.
912
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,112
Make him feel terrible, like a dope.
913
00:26:21,112 --> 00:26:22,814
Okay,
914
00:26:22,814 --> 00:26:24,182
let's just let it go.
915
00:26:24,182 --> 00:26:24,883
You see me, okay?
916
00:26:24,883 --> 00:26:26,585
I didn't say anything, okay?
917
00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:27,485
But I and
918
00:26:27,485 --> 00:26:30,021
I could have told that whole story.
919
00:26:30,021 --> 00:26:32,290
Okay? Nothing.
920
00:26:32,290 --> 00:26:33,258
All right?
921
00:26:33,258 --> 00:26:34,926
There's a difference.
922
00:26:34,926 --> 00:26:36,227
Oh, of course there is.
923
00:26:36,227 --> 00:26:37,529
Yes, yes, I mean, I can't wait.
924
00:26:37,529 --> 00:26:38,196
Differences.
925
00:26:38,196 --> 00:26:40,865
Oh, I bet it's the timing.
926
00:26:40,865 --> 00:26:42,968
As I was going through that story,
927
00:26:42,968 --> 00:26:43,969
I was thinking to myself,
928
00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:46,705
I mean, I think I maybe I
929
00:26:46,705 --> 00:26:47,973
told this story before,
930
00:26:47,973 --> 00:26:50,709
but if I had and I, you know, you
931
00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:52,777
clearly you brought it out that I did,
932
00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:55,747
that had to be like 25 episodes ago,
933
00:26:56,314 --> 00:26:56,948
right?
934
00:26:56,948 --> 00:26:58,917
Yours was two episodes ago.
935
00:26:58,917 --> 00:27:01,052
I do not remember from two episodes
936
00:27:01,052 --> 00:27:03,188
because I take the bricks out of the bag.
937
00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:06,157
I don't. It's okay.
938
00:27:06,524 --> 00:27:09,527
No no no no no,
939
00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:10,829
that's what he keeps me
940
00:27:10,829 --> 00:27:13,832
happy and go lucky.
941
00:27:13,898 --> 00:27:15,033
Happy and go lucky.
942
00:27:15,033 --> 00:27:17,602
That's me. Yeah.
943
00:27:17,602 --> 00:27:20,772
I admire that in some simplistic form.
944
00:27:21,206 --> 00:27:22,340
You should try it. It's.
945
00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:24,809
You know, it's nice being simple.
946
00:27:24,809 --> 00:27:25,910
Yeah, I actually, it's
947
00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:28,346
I it's very simple to be simple.
948
00:27:28,346 --> 00:27:31,249
I actually admire people like you
949
00:27:31,249 --> 00:27:34,252
in some way.
950
00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:39,024
Just go through life as a Rube, right?
951
00:27:39,024 --> 00:27:41,493
Yeah. It's just does it. Yeah.
952
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:42,093
Yeah.
953
00:27:42,093 --> 00:27:43,595
It's the little things
954
00:27:43,595 --> 00:27:44,629
that keep me happy.
955
00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:46,131
You know?
956
00:27:46,131 --> 00:27:49,134
We have to worry about social norms.
957
00:27:49,901 --> 00:27:52,270
The thought of ever getting ahead.
958
00:27:52,270 --> 00:27:52,737
You just.
959
00:27:52,737 --> 00:27:54,606
Oh, that whole thing.
960
00:27:54,606 --> 00:27:55,807
Yeah. Yeah.
961
00:27:55,807 --> 00:27:57,409
Keeping up with the Joneses.
962
00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:58,610
Oh. Now that.
963
00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:01,613
No, no. All right.
964
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:04,182
People should be keeping up with me.
965
00:28:04,182 --> 00:28:05,917
They should. The simple life.
966
00:28:05,917 --> 00:28:08,019
The simple life would Rob Johnson.
967
00:28:08,019 --> 00:28:10,388
That could be my new podcast,
968
00:28:10,388 --> 00:28:12,490
the Simple Life. Just me.
969
00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:13,124
Yeah.
970
00:28:13,124 --> 00:28:16,127
Telling people keep it simple.
971
00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:18,430
Well,
972
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:19,431
you'll probably get to do that
973
00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:20,532
sooner than later.
974
00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:22,167
There's the show. Yeah. That's it.
975
00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:24,402
It's just.
976
00:28:24,402 --> 00:28:24,836
All right.
977
00:28:24,836 --> 00:28:26,871
I do need playing music, I guess.
978
00:28:26,871 --> 00:28:28,640
There you go.
979
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,708
I really like this song.
980
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:32,310
I don't know why, but,
981
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:35,313
spin it for you.
982
00:28:36,247 --> 00:28:37,148
I do want to point out
983
00:28:37,148 --> 00:28:38,349
a couple of things,
984
00:28:38,349 --> 00:28:40,952
because I, I brought up, the,
985
00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:43,988
the, A51 adhesive on our A51.
986
00:28:43,988 --> 00:28:44,355
He said,
987
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:46,725
a couple things.
988
00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:47,859
One, people
989
00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:48,526
may have noticed
990
00:28:48,526 --> 00:28:50,929
that we had a name change,
991
00:28:50,929 --> 00:28:51,830
not a product change.
992
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:54,532
Is that absolutely exact same product?
993
00:28:54,532 --> 00:28:56,000
But the product's been.
994
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,569
It's now called quantum.
995
00:28:57,569 --> 00:28:59,304
All right, 51,
996
00:28:59,304 --> 00:29:00,205
the reason behind
997
00:29:00,205 --> 00:29:01,339
that, people say, well, in fact,
998
00:29:01,339 --> 00:29:02,407
I see someone on the internet goes,
999
00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:03,608
why do these marketing people
1000
00:29:03,608 --> 00:29:05,677
want to just keep making up things
1001
00:29:05,677 --> 00:29:08,213
cracked me up.
1002
00:29:08,213 --> 00:29:09,748
If you think of the Nike,
1003
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,683
if you think of Nike, the brand Nike,
1004
00:29:11,683 --> 00:29:13,485
you think of that swoosh, right?
1005
00:29:13,485 --> 00:29:14,085
I mean, how to make
1006
00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:15,553
that comes to your head?
1007
00:29:15,553 --> 00:29:17,756
Well, we are in, all over the world
1008
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:19,524
now with the Bose adhesive
1009
00:29:19,524 --> 00:29:20,625
and under
1010
00:29:20,625 --> 00:29:21,192
different names
1011
00:29:21,192 --> 00:29:22,494
in different parts of the world.
1012
00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:25,497
So in order to align everything,
1013
00:29:25,497 --> 00:29:26,364
which is quantum
1014
00:29:26,364 --> 00:29:27,398
and over in Europe
1015
00:29:27,398 --> 00:29:29,467
and different areas of the world,
1016
00:29:29,467 --> 00:29:30,668
we decided to,
1017
00:29:30,668 --> 00:29:31,970
to put it all under the same umbrella
1018
00:29:31,970 --> 00:29:33,238
and call it quantum.
1019
00:29:33,238 --> 00:29:34,239
So there's no confusing.
1020
00:29:34,239 --> 00:29:35,340
I actually like the name anyhow.
1021
00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:37,075
Better quantum school.
1022
00:29:37,075 --> 00:29:38,643
It's like James Bond wasn't there.
1023
00:29:38,643 --> 00:29:40,812
Yeah, yeah, there's a James Bond movie.
1024
00:29:40,812 --> 00:29:43,815
Quantum Quantum of Solace, I think.
1025
00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:46,451
Quantum leap quantum something.
1026
00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:48,353
Yeah, but anyhow,
1027
00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:49,621
so just so people are aware of that.
1028
00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:51,055
And the other thing too is I had a guy
1029
00:29:51,055 --> 00:29:51,790
ask me today
1030
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:52,757
why we put it
1031
00:29:52,757 --> 00:29:53,258
well, why
1032
00:29:53,258 --> 00:29:55,794
we put the adhesive in three gallon pails
1033
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,329
and, instead of five gallon pails
1034
00:29:58,329 --> 00:29:59,364
and there's a, there's
1035
00:29:59,364 --> 00:30:00,999
actually a reason for that.
1036
00:30:00,999 --> 00:30:01,533
Actually, there's two
1037
00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:02,801
because guys like you and I
1038
00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:03,468
a long time ago,
1039
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:04,335
we're much stronger
1040
00:30:04,335 --> 00:30:06,104
than the guys are today.
1041
00:30:06,104 --> 00:30:07,539
You're absolutely right.
1042
00:30:07,539 --> 00:30:08,439
Thanks.
1043
00:30:08,439 --> 00:30:09,307
Well, we
1044
00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:09,941
somebody is going to
1045
00:30:09,941 --> 00:30:11,075
I'm going to get hit.
1046
00:30:11,075 --> 00:30:12,410
Somebody is going to take a shot at me
1047
00:30:12,410 --> 00:30:13,178
for that one.
1048
00:30:13,178 --> 00:30:13,645
Yeah.
1049
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:16,114
Wouldn't take much, than I'm.
1050
00:30:16,114 --> 00:30:17,315
I miss being strong.
1051
00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:18,817
You know, I've said that before.
1052
00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:19,617
You're going to remind me
1053
00:30:19,617 --> 00:30:21,352
that I said that one before. Two.
1054
00:30:21,352 --> 00:30:23,421
No, because I actually thought about that
1055
00:30:23,421 --> 00:30:24,088
just the other day.
1056
00:30:24,088 --> 00:30:25,056
In fact,
1057
00:30:25,056 --> 00:30:26,157
that crossed my mind
1058
00:30:26,157 --> 00:30:28,426
just probably a couple days ago
1059
00:30:28,426 --> 00:30:29,994
when I was sitting on the on the plane,
1060
00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:32,330
I folded my arms and I realized, oh.
1061
00:30:37,168 --> 00:30:38,970
It's not like it used to be.
1062
00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:39,737
I really.
1063
00:30:39,737 --> 00:30:42,106
Hey, there's a lot of room there.
1064
00:30:42,106 --> 00:30:45,109
Yeah, there's the shirts and the sleeves.
1065
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,147
And I,
1066
00:30:49,147 --> 00:30:51,816
I absolutely will agree with you 100%.
1067
00:30:51,816 --> 00:30:53,084
I don't mind getting older.
1068
00:30:53,084 --> 00:30:55,286
I'm fine with my station in life,
1069
00:30:55,286 --> 00:30:57,222
but I do really do miss being strong.
1070
00:30:57,222 --> 00:30:57,822
You know that feeling
1071
00:30:57,822 --> 00:30:58,489
when you're installers.
1072
00:30:58,489 --> 00:31:01,492
So you guys are installing 000
1073
00:31:01,726 --> 00:31:03,728
when you're installing today
1074
00:31:03,728 --> 00:31:04,996
and you're in your zone
1075
00:31:04,996 --> 00:31:06,097
and you feel good, man.
1076
00:31:06,097 --> 00:31:06,598
You know what I mean?
1077
00:31:06,598 --> 00:31:07,866
You, you're walking up the stairs
1078
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:09,367
you can carry with no problem.
1079
00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:10,268
You throw the wood down
1080
00:31:10,268 --> 00:31:11,436
and you start installing.
1081
00:31:11,436 --> 00:31:14,439
You're a man or woman that's in shape.
1082
00:31:14,639 --> 00:31:16,140
And,
1083
00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:17,542
that's not always going to be that way.
1084
00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:19,344
And pick the drum up
1085
00:31:19,344 --> 00:31:22,146
off of the truck by yourself
1086
00:31:22,146 --> 00:31:23,381
like nothing, right?
1087
00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:24,682
Yeah, yeah.
1088
00:31:24,682 --> 00:31:25,850
And in your heads, playing
1089
00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:27,485
Bob Seger like a rock.
1090
00:31:27,485 --> 00:31:29,487
Like a rock. Exactly.
1091
00:31:29,487 --> 00:31:30,188
Yeah. Well, now we're.
1092
00:31:30,188 --> 00:31:31,022
Now we're playing Barry
1093
00:31:31,022 --> 00:31:33,157
Manilow in our heads. Yeah.
1094
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,362
Looks like we made it
1095
00:31:37,629 --> 00:31:39,097
now.
1096
00:31:39,097 --> 00:31:40,365
So, anyhow,
1097
00:31:40,365 --> 00:31:41,466
Yeah, you're right about that.
1098
00:31:41,466 --> 00:31:42,767
I definitely do miss that.
1099
00:31:42,767 --> 00:31:45,770
I, I so when we,
1100
00:31:46,804 --> 00:31:49,040
when we back to get in shape so late and
1101
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,276
it's not going to happen again.
1102
00:31:51,276 --> 00:31:53,711
But they answer that guy's question of
1103
00:31:53,711 --> 00:31:55,313
the three pals is two reasons for that.
1104
00:31:55,313 --> 00:31:56,347
One is,
1105
00:31:56,347 --> 00:31:57,982
if you'll notice with our signing
1106
00:31:57,982 --> 00:31:58,416
that he said,
1107
00:31:58,416 --> 00:32:01,419
you get very, very, very good,
1108
00:32:01,986 --> 00:32:03,888
spread rates on the adhesives
1109
00:32:03,888 --> 00:32:05,857
and a couple that with you,
1110
00:32:05,857 --> 00:32:08,159
you get fantastic moisture protection
1111
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:10,762
per square foot with the adhesive.
1112
00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:12,397
But the other thing is
1113
00:32:12,397 --> 00:32:14,399
the three gallon pail.
1114
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,968
They they weigh 41.7 pounds apiece.
1115
00:32:16,968 --> 00:32:18,970
Okay, a five gallon pill.
1116
00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:20,438
I just looked up
1117
00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:22,507
another manufacturer's five gallon pail
1118
00:32:22,507 --> 00:32:24,676
as a matter who,
1119
00:32:24,676 --> 00:32:26,678
they weigh 63 pounds.
1120
00:32:26,678 --> 00:32:28,279
If you're carrying two pails,
1121
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,848
you're carrying 126 pounds.
1122
00:32:30,848 --> 00:32:31,916
That with
1123
00:32:31,916 --> 00:32:34,686
with just on a single, you know, handle.
1124
00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:36,788
That's like a 50% increase in weight.
1125
00:32:38,222 --> 00:32:39,190
That's a lot of weight
1126
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:40,058
carrying up and down
1127
00:32:40,058 --> 00:32:41,292
as you get older in this business
1128
00:32:41,292 --> 00:32:42,126
and you're back.
1129
00:32:42,126 --> 00:32:43,061
And what have you been talking about?
1130
00:32:43,061 --> 00:32:44,395
Protecting your back.
1131
00:32:44,395 --> 00:32:46,531
So that absolutely is
1132
00:32:46,531 --> 00:32:47,732
part of the consideration.
1133
00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:48,166
Believe me,
1134
00:32:48,166 --> 00:32:49,334
I know all about
1135
00:32:49,334 --> 00:32:50,702
carrying a lot of weight.
1136
00:32:50,702 --> 00:32:53,404
I know I don't, I,
1137
00:32:53,404 --> 00:32:56,407
I would never I, I,
1138
00:32:56,574 --> 00:32:58,977
live in that every day.
1139
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:00,979
You're working on it.
1140
00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:03,281
You know me both were working on it.
1141
00:33:03,281 --> 00:33:04,682
I always thought it was easy to carry
1142
00:33:04,682 --> 00:33:06,217
two pails. Rather than one.
1143
00:33:06,217 --> 00:33:08,186
I agree it is about.
1144
00:33:08,186 --> 00:33:10,288
I always thought that carry two.
1145
00:33:10,288 --> 00:33:12,390
It's much easier than carrying one.
1146
00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:15,393
Yeah, but 126 pounds.
1147
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,260
You know, I,
1148
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:19,263
I versus, you know, what, 82 pounds.
1149
00:33:19,497 --> 00:33:20,765
So that's a lot,
1150
00:33:20,765 --> 00:33:21,566
a lot of difference there.
1151
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,202
So for a guy like you though,
1152
00:33:24,202 --> 00:33:25,269
I mean, yeah,
1153
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:28,239
we just established that I'm a wimp now.
1154
00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:33,044
This is the whole airplane
1155
00:33:33,044 --> 00:33:35,179
chicken wing arms of yours now.
1156
00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:36,147
But, you know,
1157
00:33:36,147 --> 00:33:37,715
there are times I was at a gas station.
1158
00:33:37,715 --> 00:33:38,783
We talked about Mississippi,
1159
00:33:38,783 --> 00:33:41,386
that I was in Mississippi
1160
00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:44,055
going into a gas station, my rental car.
1161
00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:46,224
And this guy's in front of me in a truck,
1162
00:33:46,224 --> 00:33:48,259
and he backs in. There's three pumps.
1163
00:33:48,259 --> 00:33:49,594
They're all open.
1164
00:33:49,594 --> 00:33:52,430
So he's backing in, so I fall.
1165
00:33:52,430 --> 00:33:53,398
So I'm going, you know,
1166
00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:55,433
and then he gets midway the pump.
1167
00:33:55,433 --> 00:33:58,202
He stops and like stops and looks at me
1168
00:33:58,202 --> 00:33:59,303
like what?
1169
00:33:59,303 --> 00:34:00,505
So then he backs up again.
1170
00:34:00,505 --> 00:34:01,272
He's going to the other pump.
1171
00:34:01,272 --> 00:34:03,441
So I, I'm following him something okay
1172
00:34:03,441 --> 00:34:04,375
whatever pump you stop
1173
00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:06,010
and I'll go to the next one.
1174
00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:08,279
So then he stops me and I can see him
1175
00:34:09,614 --> 00:34:10,481
yelling at me
1176
00:34:10,481 --> 00:34:11,816
right through his, through his window.
1177
00:34:11,816 --> 00:34:14,318
Right. Something. And,
1178
00:34:14,318 --> 00:34:16,754
so I, you know, time.
1179
00:34:16,754 --> 00:34:17,855
I won't do it again, Joe.
1180
00:34:17,855 --> 00:34:18,656
No, no, no,
1181
00:34:18,656 --> 00:34:19,357
I get out of the car
1182
00:34:19,357 --> 00:34:20,324
and I go over to where I go.
1183
00:34:20,324 --> 00:34:22,760
I say, partner as it what's matter?
1184
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,062
I said, I'm trying to give you room.
1185
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:25,863
I don't know which pump you want.
1186
00:34:25,863 --> 00:34:27,665
And because I start a little bit,
1187
00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:30,368
came back and I realize,
1188
00:34:30,368 --> 00:34:32,336
no, you don't need to,
1189
00:34:32,336 --> 00:34:34,238
you know, get out of the car.
1190
00:34:34,238 --> 00:34:35,840
You don't need to be that that guy.
1191
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,974
Yeah. So.
1192
00:34:36,974 --> 00:34:37,975
And so what happened?
1193
00:34:37,975 --> 00:34:39,744
Did he,
1194
00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:42,013
he he, Who did he say?
1195
00:34:42,013 --> 00:34:43,948
He didn't apologize, but he said,
1196
00:34:43,948 --> 00:34:45,583
just like it's over, man.
1197
00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:46,417
Don't worry about it. Whatever.
1198
00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:46,918
They blew it up.
1199
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:48,586
So then we go in the store,
1200
00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:49,787
so buying,
1201
00:34:49,787 --> 00:34:50,288
Diet Coke,
1202
00:34:50,288 --> 00:34:52,890
because that's what keeps me in shape.
1203
00:34:52,890 --> 00:34:55,426
So he said he's behind me,
1204
00:34:55,426 --> 00:34:56,094
so I said, hey,
1205
00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:57,562
I say pardon, I, I was trying yeah.
1206
00:34:57,562 --> 00:34:58,496
Anyway.
1207
00:34:58,496 --> 00:34:59,831
Yeah. Yeah, man, don't worry about.
1208
00:34:59,831 --> 00:35:00,431
It's all right.
1209
00:35:00,431 --> 00:35:02,900
School made me okay. Yeah.
1210
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:03,134
So.
1211
00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:04,869
But, Yeah, it's,
1212
00:35:04,869 --> 00:35:06,337
clearly not a smart thing.
1213
00:35:06,337 --> 00:35:07,238
Let me ask you a question.
1214
00:35:07,238 --> 00:35:09,240
Could you have taken the guy?
1215
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,409
No. No. Probably not.
1216
00:35:13,511 --> 00:35:16,481
I probably that.
1217
00:35:16,481 --> 00:35:18,549
I think I'm, I think I'm all right.
1218
00:35:18,549 --> 00:35:21,519
I think I'm four and 15.
1219
00:35:27,992 --> 00:35:28,259
Yeah,
1220
00:35:28,259 --> 00:35:29,694
I have a much better record
1221
00:35:29,694 --> 00:35:30,761
against drugs.
1222
00:35:30,761 --> 00:35:32,830
Unlike undefeated. Against drugs.
1223
00:35:32,830 --> 00:35:33,598
Yeah, but,
1224
00:35:33,598 --> 00:35:34,899
you know, the other record
1225
00:35:34,899 --> 00:35:36,367
where I don't need to get into that.
1226
00:35:36,367 --> 00:35:37,201
Yeah, yeah,
1227
00:35:37,201 --> 00:35:40,204
but you can ask all my buddies.
1228
00:35:40,238 --> 00:35:42,206
Yeah, I get no against drugs.
1229
00:35:42,206 --> 00:35:43,107
The bad thing about that
1230
00:35:43,107 --> 00:35:45,143
is they silver up.
1231
00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:45,843
You know,
1232
00:35:45,843 --> 00:35:46,944
while they might not remember you,
1233
00:35:46,944 --> 00:35:49,947
their friends might remember you.
1234
00:35:50,047 --> 00:35:51,082
And that point years ago.
1235
00:35:51,082 --> 00:35:52,450
Hey, I was drunk, too.
1236
00:35:52,450 --> 00:35:54,152
I don't know what happened.
1237
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:55,686
All right, so it's just a couple things
1238
00:35:55,686 --> 00:35:56,988
I just want to touch on to
1239
00:35:56,988 --> 00:35:58,956
Rob is that, you know,
1240
00:35:58,956 --> 00:35:59,991
the difference between, say,
1241
00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:00,758
a high performance
1242
00:36:00,758 --> 00:36:03,761
panels and sub floors and, and,
1243
00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:07,498
plywood and OSB is a,
1244
00:36:08,132 --> 00:36:10,234
I guess several different factors.
1245
00:36:10,234 --> 00:36:12,570
More wood is packed into the high,
1246
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:13,838
performance panels
1247
00:36:13,838 --> 00:36:15,339
and produces a more dense,
1248
00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:16,774
much more stronger panel on it.
1249
00:36:16,774 --> 00:36:19,377
And it, it grips the fasteners better
1250
00:36:19,377 --> 00:36:20,244
and they also have
1251
00:36:20,244 --> 00:36:21,712
better resins in there.
1252
00:36:21,712 --> 00:36:23,314
So there's a difference in the,
1253
00:36:23,314 --> 00:36:25,716
in the definitely in the substrates.
1254
00:36:25,716 --> 00:36:26,951
The difference between plywood
1255
00:36:26,951 --> 00:36:29,620
and OSB is a moisture content regarding
1256
00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:30,588
applied finished flooring,
1257
00:36:31,556 --> 00:36:33,424
for instance,
1258
00:36:33,424 --> 00:36:35,193
plywood tends to buckle and warp
1259
00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:36,427
and delimited,
1260
00:36:36,427 --> 00:36:38,896
when it's exposed to excess moisture
1261
00:36:38,896 --> 00:36:41,766
and the OSB swells,
1262
00:36:41,766 --> 00:36:43,367
more especially around the perimeter.
1263
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:44,502
That's exactly what happened
1264
00:36:44,502 --> 00:36:46,070
with my brother's floor.
1265
00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:46,804
Is that right?
1266
00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:49,173
That OSB, it all swollen up
1267
00:36:49,173 --> 00:36:51,275
and it had absolutely no holding
1268
00:36:51,275 --> 00:36:53,010
power for the nails.
1269
00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:54,445
So what happened
1270
00:36:54,445 --> 00:36:55,580
was the OSB
1271
00:36:55,580 --> 00:36:57,348
manufacturers started to like,
1272
00:36:57,348 --> 00:36:59,283
to seal around the edges
1273
00:36:59,283 --> 00:37:00,051
to stop that
1274
00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:01,419
swelling and stuff for happy.
1275
00:37:01,419 --> 00:37:02,887
But, you know,
1276
00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:03,888
you get on a jobsite
1277
00:37:03,888 --> 00:37:05,389
and you're going to make cuts, right?
1278
00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:05,690
Right.
1279
00:37:05,690 --> 00:37:06,090
You're going to
1280
00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:07,058
you're going to cut the fit.
1281
00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:08,960
And so that kind of goes out the window.
1282
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,761
So what
1283
00:37:10,761 --> 00:37:11,829
you also have to consider
1284
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:14,198
the flatness of the substrate.
1285
00:37:14,198 --> 00:37:14,732
You know, again
1286
00:37:14,732 --> 00:37:15,666
we talked about how expensive
1287
00:37:15,666 --> 00:37:17,034
these floors are today.
1288
00:37:17,034 --> 00:37:18,502
So making sure these floors are
1289
00:37:18,502 --> 00:37:19,604
are good and flat.
1290
00:37:20,638 --> 00:37:21,973
My brother was on a job.
1291
00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:24,775
My two brothers ran a job one time,
1292
00:37:24,775 --> 00:37:26,477
I think it was last year.
1293
00:37:26,477 --> 00:37:28,779
And, the guy, the
1294
00:37:28,779 --> 00:37:31,382
the guy had screwed down the subfloor,
1295
00:37:31,382 --> 00:37:33,451
but this is the pre finished floor.
1296
00:37:33,451 --> 00:37:34,585
But he was like,
1297
00:37:34,585 --> 00:37:36,087
every the screws are taking
1298
00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:37,355
screws was like sticking up
1299
00:37:37,355 --> 00:37:38,789
like a, like an eighth of an inch
1300
00:37:38,789 --> 00:37:40,524
the heads. Right.
1301
00:37:40,524 --> 00:37:43,227
So and my brother's Doug is, as
1302
00:37:43,227 --> 00:37:44,695
meticulous as can be.
1303
00:37:44,695 --> 00:37:46,497
This is our big time custom builder.
1304
00:37:46,497 --> 00:37:47,198
I mean,
1305
00:37:47,198 --> 00:37:48,232
none of these homes are under
1306
00:37:48,232 --> 00:37:50,268
$3 million minimum.
1307
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:52,203
And, this home was,
1308
00:37:52,203 --> 00:37:54,405
way more expensive than that.
1309
00:37:54,405 --> 00:37:56,807
And, so he was prepping the subfloor,
1310
00:37:56,807 --> 00:37:59,610
and he he just he said, you know what
1311
00:37:59,610 --> 00:38:00,344
I'm taking?
1312
00:38:00,344 --> 00:38:01,479
I'll I'll just re screw
1313
00:38:01,479 --> 00:38:03,347
the whole floor down myself to himself.
1314
00:38:03,347 --> 00:38:05,783
It was on a Saturday, and he was just
1315
00:38:06,817 --> 00:38:07,752
taking all the screws out.
1316
00:38:07,752 --> 00:38:08,786
Right.
1317
00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:10,421
And the owner of the company
1318
00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:12,590
had flown in from, from Orange County.
1319
00:38:12,590 --> 00:38:13,491
This is a Bay area floor.
1320
00:38:13,491 --> 00:38:14,558
He don't this guy, you know,
1321
00:38:14,558 --> 00:38:15,059
you don't ever see
1322
00:38:15,059 --> 00:38:16,961
this guy ever on a jobsite.
1323
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:19,797
He's he's the guy for this company.
1324
00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:21,966
And he walked in with somebody else,
1325
00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:23,634
and he sees my brother.
1326
00:38:23,634 --> 00:38:26,337
He goes, what the hell are you doing?
1327
00:38:26,337 --> 00:38:26,737
And he was.
1328
00:38:26,737 --> 00:38:28,439
And my brother's like, oh, shoot.
1329
00:38:28,439 --> 00:38:29,273
I mean, who is this guy?
1330
00:38:29,273 --> 00:38:30,107
You know?
1331
00:38:30,107 --> 00:38:31,709
And, he goes, well, look,
1332
00:38:31,709 --> 00:38:33,210
I'm just want to show you something.
1333
00:38:33,210 --> 00:38:34,011
He goes, all these,
1334
00:38:34,011 --> 00:38:34,845
all these sub floors,
1335
00:38:34,845 --> 00:38:35,880
if you run your hand, here he goes.
1336
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,648
They're all up proud a little bit,
1337
00:38:37,648 --> 00:38:38,649
all of them.
1338
00:38:38,649 --> 00:38:38,916
He goes.
1339
00:38:38,916 --> 00:38:39,917
If I try to screw them down
1340
00:38:39,917 --> 00:38:40,418
any further it's
1341
00:38:40,418 --> 00:38:41,452
not not really going to work.
1342
00:38:41,452 --> 00:38:42,853
So I'm just going to screw
1343
00:38:42,853 --> 00:38:44,689
the whole software over again.
1344
00:38:44,689 --> 00:38:47,124
And he goes, who are you?
1345
00:38:47,124 --> 00:38:49,026
And he goes, well with Highland for us
1346
00:38:49,026 --> 00:38:49,760
we're doing the floors.
1347
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,228
He goes, you're installing the floors,
1348
00:38:51,228 --> 00:38:52,396
you know. Yeah.
1349
00:38:52,396 --> 00:38:53,798
You know, then you took all these screws
1350
00:38:53,798 --> 00:38:54,732
and you're going to screw the horse
1351
00:38:54,732 --> 00:38:56,767
up for now, you know. Yeah.
1352
00:38:56,767 --> 00:38:58,002
And he guy reached out his hand.
1353
00:38:58,002 --> 00:38:58,569
He shook his hand.
1354
00:38:58,569 --> 00:39:01,605
He goes, hey, I want to sincerely
1355
00:39:01,605 --> 00:39:03,507
thank you very much for for the effort
1356
00:39:03,507 --> 00:39:04,709
you put into this job.
1357
00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:07,478
I really want to thank you very much.
1358
00:39:07,478 --> 00:39:09,313
And, both of you guys and I
1359
00:39:09,313 --> 00:39:10,448
then he was like, over the top
1360
00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:14,685
when the other guy showed up on Monday,
1361
00:39:14,919 --> 00:39:16,987
the superintendent goes, hey, who did you
1362
00:39:16,987 --> 00:39:18,656
who did you guys talk to someone?
1363
00:39:18,656 --> 00:39:21,325
So he goes, yeah. He goes, Holy smokes.
1364
00:39:21,325 --> 00:39:22,226
I mean, he could
1365
00:39:22,226 --> 00:39:24,161
not say enough about you guys.
1366
00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:25,696
So,
1367
00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:28,165
you know, there's a little it's
1368
00:39:28,165 --> 00:39:31,168
amazing how well they're doing.
1369
00:39:31,268 --> 00:39:31,669
So.
1370
00:39:31,669 --> 00:39:33,337
Yeah, amazing how they.
1371
00:39:33,337 --> 00:39:35,573
I mean, I don't know what happened.
1372
00:39:35,573 --> 00:39:36,540
Yeah. When did you think?
1373
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:38,109
Well, I don't know.
1374
00:39:38,109 --> 00:39:39,610
I don't know when that happened.
1375
00:39:39,610 --> 00:39:40,978
I don't,
1376
00:39:40,978 --> 00:39:43,047
maybe, I don't know,
1377
00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:46,751
0506 something something happened.
1378
00:39:47,017 --> 00:39:48,352
Something happened there. Yeah.
1379
00:39:48,352 --> 00:39:50,287
But but boy, they just seemed
1380
00:39:50,287 --> 00:39:51,455
just like a rocket.
1381
00:39:51,455 --> 00:39:52,056
Just like a.
1382
00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:53,224
Yeah, yeah.
1383
00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:54,925
It's almost like they, you know,
1384
00:39:54,925 --> 00:39:56,827
it was almost like they
1385
00:39:56,827 --> 00:39:58,863
they dropped their drag.
1386
00:39:58,863 --> 00:40:00,131
Okay. You remember.
1387
00:40:00,131 --> 00:40:02,166
Yeah. Waldo Waldman right.
1388
00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:03,768
You get lift. Yeah.
1389
00:40:03,768 --> 00:40:04,735
And you get drag.
1390
00:40:04,735 --> 00:40:07,538
And something happen in Highlander floor
1391
00:40:07,538 --> 00:40:08,506
where man
1392
00:40:08,506 --> 00:40:11,509
they just let that drag going boom.
1393
00:40:11,675 --> 00:40:13,677
Highlander floors just took off.
1394
00:40:13,677 --> 00:40:15,679
And I was like, oh 5 or 6.
1395
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:17,281
Maybe somewhere in there.
1396
00:40:17,281 --> 00:40:18,916
You don't think I was a drag, do you?
1397
00:40:20,217 --> 00:40:21,519
No, no, no, not at all.
1398
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:23,254
I don't know what happened, but yeah.
1399
00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:25,189
Something happened. Yeah.
1400
00:40:25,189 --> 00:40:27,024
Lift and drag, baby. Yeah.
1401
00:40:27,024 --> 00:40:28,993
And drag it. Serve.
1402
00:40:28,993 --> 00:40:30,961
All right, so that's subclause,
1403
00:40:30,961 --> 00:40:32,963
and there's a little that's,
1404
00:40:32,963 --> 00:40:34,365
kind of a lesson in like to.
1405
00:40:34,365 --> 00:40:35,199
I've always said to
1406
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,168
you never know who's watching you.
1407
00:40:37,168 --> 00:40:37,468
Even.
1408
00:40:37,468 --> 00:40:40,304
Is it working for a corporation?
1409
00:40:40,304 --> 00:40:41,405
Working in the field?
1410
00:40:41,405 --> 00:40:42,740
Any job you have,
1411
00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:43,674
you never, never,
1412
00:40:43,674 --> 00:40:45,476
never know who's watching you.
1413
00:40:45,476 --> 00:40:48,279
And, to a poor kid, opportunities
1414
00:40:48,279 --> 00:40:51,282
come very seldom in life.
1415
00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:52,349
And one of the worst things
1416
00:40:52,349 --> 00:40:53,317
that can possibly happen
1417
00:40:53,317 --> 00:40:55,119
is that one comes in.
1418
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:56,654
You're not ready for it.
1419
00:40:56,654 --> 00:40:58,556
So, you know,
1420
00:40:58,556 --> 00:40:59,957
I'm going to tell a little story.
1421
00:40:59,957 --> 00:41:00,758
You're right.
1422
00:41:00,758 --> 00:41:03,761
You never know who's watching you.
1423
00:41:04,061 --> 00:41:05,896
And I've told, actually,
1424
00:41:05,896 --> 00:41:07,298
I told the story,
1425
00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:08,098
when we were talking
1426
00:41:08,098 --> 00:41:09,633
about worst jobs ever.
1427
00:41:09,633 --> 00:41:11,035
And the one beating I was
1428
00:41:11,035 --> 00:41:13,237
on was Albany International.
1429
00:41:13,237 --> 00:41:15,539
And we went Friday night and work
1430
00:41:15,539 --> 00:41:18,375
till Monday morning. Right.
1431
00:41:18,375 --> 00:41:19,944
And one day it was,
1432
00:41:21,011 --> 00:41:22,379
it was like Saturday
1433
00:41:22,379 --> 00:41:23,647
morning, you know, so
1434
00:41:23,647 --> 00:41:26,350
we stop or having something to eat
1435
00:41:26,350 --> 00:41:28,352
and you can see all the equipment
1436
00:41:28,352 --> 00:41:29,220
and all the,
1437
00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:29,553
you know,
1438
00:41:29,553 --> 00:41:30,321
everything around
1439
00:41:30,321 --> 00:41:31,188
you can tell that,
1440
00:41:31,188 --> 00:41:31,589
you know,
1441
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:33,858
we had been gone through the night
1442
00:41:33,858 --> 00:41:36,293
and, this guy just comes walking up.
1443
00:41:36,293 --> 00:41:38,162
We didn't know who he was,
1444
00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:41,165
sits down, he's talking to us.
1445
00:41:41,232 --> 00:41:42,199
Normal guy.
1446
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:42,666
You know,
1447
00:41:42,666 --> 00:41:43,767
I thought he was some kind of
1448
00:41:43,767 --> 00:41:45,369
maybe a manager
1449
00:41:45,369 --> 00:41:47,004
coming in to work on equipment or.
1450
00:41:47,004 --> 00:41:48,172
I didn't know who he was.
1451
00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:49,607
Nice. Nice guy.
1452
00:41:49,607 --> 00:41:52,343
Talk to us for 45 minutes.
1453
00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:55,346
Gets up, leaves we go back to work.
1454
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,015
It was the owner, CEO
1455
00:41:58,015 --> 00:41:59,450
of Albany International.
1456
00:41:59,450 --> 00:42:01,252
This is a publicly traded company,
1457
00:42:01,252 --> 00:42:04,088
so we had no idea who he was.
1458
00:42:04,088 --> 00:42:05,523
He introduced himself
1459
00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:06,457
whenever he even picked
1460
00:42:06,457 --> 00:42:07,925
up on the name right.
1461
00:42:08,859 --> 00:42:11,862
And that's funny you said that because
1462
00:42:12,396 --> 00:42:15,399
when we're leaving Monday morning,
1463
00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:17,167
the guy who we were,
1464
00:42:17,167 --> 00:42:19,603
you know, our contact and everything,
1465
00:42:19,603 --> 00:42:21,639
he's like, what the hell did you do?
1466
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:23,274
And I'm like, I don't know.
1467
00:42:23,274 --> 00:42:24,008
He goes,
1468
00:42:24,008 --> 00:42:25,476
you don't even know who you talk to.
1469
00:42:25,476 --> 00:42:27,244
Yeah, I don't know what it
1470
00:42:27,244 --> 00:42:27,678
I don't even know
1471
00:42:27,678 --> 00:42:28,779
what you're talking about.
1472
00:42:28,779 --> 00:42:30,080
He goes Saturday morning.
1473
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,247
Yeah,
1474
00:42:30,247 --> 00:42:32,082
I can't remember the guy's name, he said.
1475
00:42:32,082 --> 00:42:33,384
But so it's funny,
1476
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:34,685
it's the same exact thing.
1477
00:42:34,685 --> 00:42:36,987
We had no idea who the guy was.
1478
00:42:36,987 --> 00:42:39,990
Really super nice guy and everything
1479
00:42:40,090 --> 00:42:41,325
very down to earth.
1480
00:42:41,325 --> 00:42:42,826
And, boy,
1481
00:42:42,826 --> 00:42:44,528
did we get a lot of work after that too.
1482
00:42:44,528 --> 00:42:44,995
We did
1483
00:42:44,995 --> 00:42:47,364
get tons and tons of work
1484
00:42:47,364 --> 00:42:48,799
at that place after that.
1485
00:42:48,799 --> 00:42:49,934
So you're right.
1486
00:42:49,934 --> 00:42:51,368
You never know.
1487
00:42:51,368 --> 00:42:53,404
And probably still to this day,
1488
00:42:53,404 --> 00:42:54,104
you don't know what it
1489
00:42:54,104 --> 00:42:55,306
means to be publicly traded.
1490
00:43:01,478 --> 00:43:03,614
Boy, oh, boy, I thought I had one there.
1491
00:43:03,614 --> 00:43:04,682
You know, I thought,
1492
00:43:04,682 --> 00:43:05,916
maybe I'll get one in,
1493
00:43:05,916 --> 00:43:08,919
you know, one kind of, Yeah.
1494
00:43:10,654 --> 00:43:11,855
I'm going to tell you another story
1495
00:43:11,855 --> 00:43:14,258
about you never know.
1496
00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:16,060
You never know who's watching.
1497
00:43:16,060 --> 00:43:17,061
Yeah.
1498
00:43:17,061 --> 00:43:19,763
Is this this goes for work.
1499
00:43:19,763 --> 00:43:21,665
This is this is work.
1500
00:43:21,665 --> 00:43:22,633
This is work.
1501
00:43:22,633 --> 00:43:25,302
No, no, this is all work. Okay?
1502
00:43:25,302 --> 00:43:26,303
I know who's watching me.
1503
00:43:26,303 --> 00:43:29,073
All tells.
1504
00:43:29,073 --> 00:43:32,042
So bowling alleys, start to get.
1505
00:43:32,042 --> 00:43:32,876
And I think I've talked
1506
00:43:32,876 --> 00:43:34,345
about this before,
1507
00:43:34,345 --> 00:43:35,079
where we used
1508
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:36,847
to pump epoxy into the tongue
1509
00:43:36,847 --> 00:43:38,082
groove of bowling alley
1510
00:43:38,082 --> 00:43:40,551
to solidify everything, you know,
1511
00:43:40,551 --> 00:43:42,820
and you'd pump the epoxy in
1512
00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:44,221
until you see the epoxy.
1513
00:43:44,221 --> 00:43:46,123
Can that ooze in through the top.
1514
00:43:46,123 --> 00:43:46,957
Okay.
1515
00:43:46,957 --> 00:43:48,058
It's a miserable,
1516
00:43:48,058 --> 00:43:51,795
sucky job you drilling thousands of holes
1517
00:43:52,429 --> 00:43:55,332
every board, every eight inches.
1518
00:43:55,332 --> 00:43:56,266
Right?
1519
00:43:56,266 --> 00:43:56,867
Wait a minute.
1520
00:43:56,867 --> 00:43:57,635
Oh, you got to explain
1521
00:43:57,635 --> 00:43:58,335
that to me because,
1522
00:44:00,404 --> 00:44:01,405
are you saying
1523
00:44:01,405 --> 00:44:03,540
the floor already is installed
1524
00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:04,808
and you're drilling into the tongue
1525
00:44:04,808 --> 00:44:06,610
and groove? Yes.
1526
00:44:06,610 --> 00:44:08,746
Like down like a quarter inch or so,
1527
00:44:08,746 --> 00:44:09,313
and then your pump.
1528
00:44:09,313 --> 00:44:09,847
Oh, no, no,
1529
00:44:09,847 --> 00:44:11,715
no, no bowling alley is like,
1530
00:44:11,715 --> 00:44:13,717
three inches thick
1531
00:44:13,717 --> 00:44:14,785
and the tongue is you're
1532
00:44:14,785 --> 00:44:16,687
drilling the tongue and groove is down
1533
00:44:16,687 --> 00:44:18,222
about an inch away from the top.
1534
00:44:18,222 --> 00:44:19,189
Oh, I got you.
1535
00:44:19,189 --> 00:44:22,059
Okay, so we're drilling on an angle
1536
00:44:22,059 --> 00:44:22,926
into the tongue
1537
00:44:22,926 --> 00:44:24,828
and groove of the bowling alley,
1538
00:44:24,828 --> 00:44:27,464
and then we pump epoxy in there
1539
00:44:27,464 --> 00:44:29,033
because with all the pounding
1540
00:44:29,033 --> 00:44:30,901
of the balls and the oil
1541
00:44:30,901 --> 00:44:32,469
and the cleaners and everything.
1542
00:44:32,469 --> 00:44:33,103
Yeah. Yeah.
1543
00:44:33,103 --> 00:44:33,570
Right.
1544
00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:35,873
The the lanes, the wood
1545
00:44:35,873 --> 00:44:37,975
turns into, like, piano keys.
1546
00:44:37,975 --> 00:44:38,676
We darn.
1547
00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:38,976
Yeah.
1548
00:44:38,976 --> 00:44:39,810
That's what the pounding
1549
00:44:39,810 --> 00:44:40,878
the balls will do.
1550
00:44:40,878 --> 00:44:43,480
Okay? It just mashes everything.
1551
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,181
So then we go
1552
00:44:44,181 --> 00:44:45,849
in, we pump epoxy into each
1553
00:44:45,849 --> 00:44:47,317
board every eight inches,
1554
00:44:48,886 --> 00:44:50,354
and,
1555
00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:51,522
and just makes everything
1556
00:44:51,522 --> 00:44:53,390
a solid piece of rock.
1557
00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:54,224
Okay.
1558
00:44:54,224 --> 00:44:56,527
Wow. Yeah, I did no idea.
1559
00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:57,695
That crazy.
1560
00:44:57,695 --> 00:45:00,431
If you ever see a wood bowling lane.
1561
00:45:00,431 --> 00:45:01,565
You don't see it a lot of wood
1562
00:45:01,565 --> 00:45:02,199
bowling lanes.
1563
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:03,500
But if anybody's ever out there
1564
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:05,269
you see a wood bowling lane,
1565
00:45:05,269 --> 00:45:07,004
you'll look down and you'll see.
1566
00:45:07,004 --> 00:45:07,838
Because every lane's
1567
00:45:07,838 --> 00:45:10,140
been injected with epoxy
1568
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:13,077
and started back in the 80s.
1569
00:45:13,077 --> 00:45:14,812
And it's the same color as lane.
1570
00:45:14,812 --> 00:45:15,579
But you'll see
1571
00:45:15,579 --> 00:45:17,147
you can see exactly where everything's
1572
00:45:17,147 --> 00:45:19,550
from and pump anyways,
1573
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:21,385
it was crappy work.
1574
00:45:21,385 --> 00:45:22,519
It was night work.
1575
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:24,088
It was always during the winter
1576
00:45:24,088 --> 00:45:25,589
when you know,
1577
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:26,090
it was good
1578
00:45:26,090 --> 00:45:27,825
to have something to do in the winter,
1579
00:45:27,825 --> 00:45:30,294
but you know, it was night work
1580
00:45:30,294 --> 00:45:31,795
and you're pumping epoxy in,
1581
00:45:31,795 --> 00:45:33,297
it's spraying all over the place
1582
00:45:33,297 --> 00:45:36,433
and it just horrible, horrible stuff.
1583
00:45:37,334 --> 00:45:39,203
And it was there's a ton of ether in it.
1584
00:45:39,203 --> 00:45:40,437
We get back to the hotel
1585
00:45:40,437 --> 00:45:42,039
room in the morning and we'd be out.
1586
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,842
You could have operated on anyways.
1587
00:45:44,842 --> 00:45:45,843
Now our ball is flying
1588
00:45:45,843 --> 00:45:46,443
all over the place.
1589
00:45:46,443 --> 00:45:48,011
Why are you doing this or is it gambling?
1590
00:45:48,011 --> 00:45:49,546
Yes, actually, yeah.
1591
00:45:49,546 --> 00:45:50,948
There's some balls still flying.
1592
00:45:50,948 --> 00:45:52,549
People are still bowling. Right?
1593
00:45:52,549 --> 00:45:53,650
When we're there,
1594
00:45:53,650 --> 00:45:55,319
we'll start at one end of the place.
1595
00:45:55,319 --> 00:45:55,786
Okay,
1596
00:45:57,154 --> 00:45:59,189
so
1597
00:45:59,189 --> 00:46:01,258
when we were doing this,
1598
00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:02,426
people would sometimes
1599
00:46:02,426 --> 00:46:04,762
come over right there, done bowling,
1600
00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:06,029
they'd seen something going
1601
00:46:06,029 --> 00:46:07,664
on, you know, a couple of guys working
1602
00:46:07,664 --> 00:46:09,133
and they come over and they'd watch
1603
00:46:09,133 --> 00:46:10,868
and they'd talk to you and you know,
1604
00:46:10,868 --> 00:46:12,436
what are you doing? Blah, blah, blah.
1605
00:46:12,436 --> 00:46:14,605
And then we're telling everybody
1606
00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:15,706
now, most of these people
1607
00:46:15,706 --> 00:46:16,740
have been bowling
1608
00:46:16,740 --> 00:46:18,108
and drinking all night long.
1609
00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:20,410
So lots of drunks.
1610
00:46:20,410 --> 00:46:22,479
Right. And, whatever.
1611
00:46:22,479 --> 00:46:24,615
You know, I'm a nice guy.
1612
00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:27,518
I'll talk to you.
1613
00:46:27,518 --> 00:46:28,952
But you would pump the epoxy
1614
00:46:28,952 --> 00:46:30,721
until you saw
1615
00:46:30,721 --> 00:46:33,724
it come up through the top, right.
1616
00:46:34,391 --> 00:46:35,859
So there's these two drunk guys
1617
00:46:35,859 --> 00:46:36,426
watching us
1618
00:46:36,426 --> 00:46:38,061
and they're not really saying anything.
1619
00:46:38,061 --> 00:46:40,764
I don't know who this guy is.
1620
00:46:40,764 --> 00:46:43,567
And he goes hey you should put another,
1621
00:46:43,567 --> 00:46:46,103
put another shot of epoxy in that one of
1622
00:46:46,103 --> 00:46:48,739
I just look at the guy go yeah yeah okay.
1623
00:46:48,739 --> 00:46:51,441
I'm in my very early 20s
1624
00:46:52,476 --> 00:46:53,710
right.
1625
00:46:53,710 --> 00:46:56,713
And and then the guy says it again
1626
00:46:57,047 --> 00:46:58,782
and
1627
00:46:58,782 --> 00:47:00,317
hey,
1628
00:47:00,317 --> 00:47:02,119
I told you put another
1629
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:03,987
pump of epoxy in there.
1630
00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:05,589
I was like, yeah, right. Whatever.
1631
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:07,858
And I said, whatever, buddy.
1632
00:47:07,858 --> 00:47:09,359
You know. Yeah.
1633
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:11,528
And I keep pumping along
1634
00:47:11,528 --> 00:47:14,498
and he says something again now
1635
00:47:14,498 --> 00:47:17,167
I redline right.
1636
00:47:17,167 --> 00:47:18,769
And he
1637
00:47:18,769 --> 00:47:21,271
couple F-bombs couple this couple
1638
00:47:21,271 --> 00:47:23,273
that and I let out.
1639
00:47:23,273 --> 00:47:26,276
Who the f do you think you are.
1640
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:27,477
And he said
1641
00:47:27,477 --> 00:47:30,347
I'm the f and owner of this place pack.
1642
00:47:30,347 --> 00:47:32,349
You know pack.
1643
00:47:32,349 --> 00:47:33,317
Excuse me.
1644
00:47:33,317 --> 00:47:36,153
Pack your stuff and get out.
1645
00:47:36,153 --> 00:47:38,355
It's like 1:00 in the morning.
1646
00:47:38,355 --> 00:47:41,358
And now I am like, oh my God,
1647
00:47:42,192 --> 00:47:46,964
my father is going to absolutely kill me.
1648
00:47:47,364 --> 00:47:50,367
Yes, because it was a huge job, right.
1649
00:47:50,601 --> 00:47:51,735
Oh my God.
1650
00:47:51,735 --> 00:47:54,638
So he wants me out.
1651
00:47:54,638 --> 00:47:57,274
He wants me p the equipment.
1652
00:47:57,274 --> 00:47:59,776
He wants everything out of his place.
1653
00:47:59,776 --> 00:48:02,512
So here's how good the old man was.
1654
00:48:04,681 --> 00:48:05,716
He doesn't.
1655
00:48:05,716 --> 00:48:06,083
Mr.
1656
00:48:06,083 --> 00:48:07,184
Corleone wants to hear
1657
00:48:07,184 --> 00:48:09,119
bad news right away. Right.
1658
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:11,555
I call my dad at 1:00, woke him up, I go,
1659
00:48:11,555 --> 00:48:13,957
dad told my father the whole story.
1660
00:48:13,957 --> 00:48:16,059
He goes, don't worry about it.
1661
00:48:16,059 --> 00:48:18,128
He goes, don't go anywhere.
1662
00:48:18,128 --> 00:48:19,363
You go, stay there.
1663
00:48:19,363 --> 00:48:22,366
I'll call.
1664
00:48:22,499 --> 00:48:23,400
This is how good
1665
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,403
the old man was with people.
1666
00:48:27,638 --> 00:48:28,639
I go walking back
1667
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,875
in, the guy walks up to me and says, hey,
1668
00:48:33,143 --> 00:48:34,011
I'm really sorry
1669
00:48:34,011 --> 00:48:35,979
to introduce you to myself,
1670
00:48:35,979 --> 00:48:38,916
or I didn't introduce myself to you.
1671
00:48:38,916 --> 00:48:39,549
Yeah.
1672
00:48:39,549 --> 00:48:40,317
And I said, I'm
1673
00:48:40,317 --> 00:48:42,185
really sorry that I shouldn't,
1674
00:48:42,185 --> 00:48:45,188
you know, not knowing you were that guy.
1675
00:48:45,188 --> 00:48:48,292
Apologize to me for not alerting to me
1676
00:48:48,592 --> 00:48:49,459
who he was.
1677
00:48:49,459 --> 00:48:51,929
That's how good my dad was. Wow.
1678
00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:54,097
We got back in there.
1679
00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:54,765
Got to do.
1680
00:48:54,765 --> 00:48:56,300
Finish the whole job and everything.
1681
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:58,568
And the guy is apologizing to me.
1682
00:48:58,568 --> 00:48:59,569
I was like, wow,
1683
00:48:59,569 --> 00:49:00,904
the old man's pretty good.
1684
00:49:00,904 --> 00:49:02,439
That's. That's pretty slick.
1685
00:49:02,439 --> 00:49:03,941
That's a good word, man.
1686
00:49:05,042 --> 00:49:06,143
The old man was slick.
1687
00:49:06,143 --> 00:49:07,978
Absolutely. It's tough.
1688
00:49:07,978 --> 00:49:08,745
Did your is your dad
1689
00:49:08,745 --> 00:49:10,147
passed away, by the way?
1690
00:49:10,147 --> 00:49:11,048
Yeah. Yeah.
1691
00:49:11,048 --> 00:49:14,051
About,
1692
00:49:14,818 --> 00:49:16,186
5 or 6 years ago.
1693
00:49:16,186 --> 00:49:18,021
Okay. I didn't know that.
1694
00:49:18,021 --> 00:49:19,456
Yeah.
1695
00:49:19,456 --> 00:49:21,158
All right, well, he had cancer.
1696
00:49:21,158 --> 00:49:23,527
Yeah. No kidding. Too bad. So.
1697
00:49:23,527 --> 00:49:24,861
Sorry to hear that.
1698
00:49:24,861 --> 00:49:26,596
Well, you saw the picture of him.
1699
00:49:26,596 --> 00:49:27,798
He had the cigaret in his hand.
1700
00:49:27,798 --> 00:49:28,532
I mean, yeah,
1701
00:49:28,532 --> 00:49:29,499
you never did
1702
00:49:29,499 --> 00:49:30,600
not have a cigaret
1703
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,703
in a cup of coffee, so.
1704
00:49:32,703 --> 00:49:34,871
Yeah, I'll do it.
1705
00:49:34,871 --> 00:49:36,206
But he was a people person.
1706
00:49:36,206 --> 00:49:37,441
He was good.
1707
00:49:37,441 --> 00:49:38,175
Yeah.
1708
00:49:38,175 --> 00:49:39,242
The apple don't fall
1709
00:49:39,242 --> 00:49:40,577
too far from the, from.
1710
00:49:40,577 --> 00:49:42,312
Oh, isn't that nice?
1711
00:49:42,312 --> 00:49:44,047
Gonna end with a compliment?
1712
00:49:44,047 --> 00:49:46,049
Yes. There you go. Yeah.
1713
00:49:46,049 --> 00:49:46,683
All right.
1714
00:49:46,683 --> 00:49:48,719
Thank you. Rob. Appreciate it.
1715
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:49,252
A little,
1716
00:49:49,252 --> 00:49:50,554
a little talk about,
1717
00:49:50,554 --> 00:49:51,788
plywood subfloor is wood
1718
00:49:51,788 --> 00:49:53,657
subfloor is OSB, subfloor is,
1719
00:49:56,026 --> 00:49:57,227
pumping epoxy
1720
00:49:57,227 --> 00:50:00,197
up on a poxy stiff subfloor.
1721
00:50:00,197 --> 00:50:02,799
Yep. There you go.
1722
00:50:02,799 --> 00:50:03,066
All right.
1723
00:50:03,066 --> 00:50:04,534
That's another episode of On the Floor
1724
00:50:04,534 --> 00:50:05,335
with Wayne and Rob.
1725
00:50:05,335 --> 00:50:06,269
Please do stay tuned for
1726
00:50:06,269 --> 00:50:07,804
another episode of.