On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Revisit - Chasing Perfection

Episode Summary

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Episode Transcription

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Hello.

 

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Welcome to another

 

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episode of I'm On the Floor

 

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with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne

 

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Highlander, director of Sales

 

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Bona Adhesives.

 

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And I'm Rob Johnson from Bona Training.

 

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How are you doing, Rob?

 

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Pretty good.

 

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How's it going?

 

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It's going really good.

 

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Oh, that's good.

 

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You know,

 

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I thought I found an episode here.

 

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I think I'd like to take a look back,

 

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and I thought was a really good episode.

 

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That is one where you made

 

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minimal mistakes

 

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and one I think we ought to revisit.

 

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What do you say?

 

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So it has nothing to do with the openings

 

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that we have to suffer

 

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through your mistakes.

 

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This is one that's mistake free.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Let's roll the tape.

 

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Hello and welcome to another episode

 

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of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne Highlander,

 

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national sales manager

 

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for Bond Adhesives.

 

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And I'm Rob Johnson from Bonus Training.

 

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Rob,

 

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we're going to talk this

 

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might be the most important

 

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episode we've ever done.

 

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I'm not laughing.

 

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I admit it.

 

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I, I thought I would let you know that

 

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right now as we start.

 

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Okay. Yeah.

 

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Yes.

 

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We've done on prostate exams.

 

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We've done stuff on them.

 

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Play by plays.

 

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We've done a lot of health issues.

 

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PSA. Yeah.

 

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But

 

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this episode is going to be

 

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on chasing perfection.

 

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The reason I think this is important

 

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is that lately,

 

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in the last couple of years,

 

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I have talked to four guys

 

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that seem to be

 

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driving themselves out of their mind,

 

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chasing perfection.

 

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And I'm not saying it's a negative thing.

 

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I'm not saying

 

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that's the case or whatever.

 

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But

 

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there's there's a

 

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there's it's a double edged sword.

 

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And I am

 

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I put myself at the front of the line

 

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being every bit

 

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as guilty

 

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as as as a lot of guys for this.

 

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Can I interrupt you for a second?

 

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Yes, you can.

 

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Have you ever heard my

 

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my perfection part

 

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of my opening

 

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for the classes for the schools?

 

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Many times.

 

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And I don't remember any bit of it.

 

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So please.

 

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My God, it's.

 

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It's perfect for this.

 

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It's absolutely perfect.

 

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Hit me with your best shot.

 

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And I said this to my kid because mom

 

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was he's just a crazy perfectionist

 

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to the point where it was very annoying

 

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to have me come work with him

 

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because I know that no finish

 

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will cover that,

 

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that, you know,

 

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you don't have to get the I.

 

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I know these things, okay?

 

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I know what we can

 

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what's what's not going to show up

 

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and what we'll show up.

 

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He thinks everything's going to show up.

 

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He's a perfectionist.

 

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So I tell my class,

 

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at the start of every class,

 

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there is no such thing

 

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as a perfect floor.

 

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There is no perfect floor out there.

 

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Even you floor the year winners.

 

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There's no perfect floor out there.

 

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But

 

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by chasing perfection,

 

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you'll achieve excellent floors.

 

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I like that.

 

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I think

 

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it lines up exactly what I thought

 

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we would talk about.

 

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I wish it was completely mine,

 

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but I stole it from a football coach.

 

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Okay, I'll be honest.

 

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Yeah.

 

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But I thought when I read that, I was.

 

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Oh, man, that's.

 

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There's a lot of floor guys out there

 

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that I need to say this to,

 

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but it's the truth, you know?

 

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We all get the I,

 

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right?

 

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Well,

 

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get that, Sanders, I

 

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no matter where we go,

 

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restaurants, stores, friends, houses,

 

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no matter where we are.

 

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A wood floor man

 

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always sees the wood floor

 

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and he always the end.

 

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And most of us always say the same thing.

 

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How do you get paid for this?

 

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I wouldn't have got paid for that.

 

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How did he get paid for that job?

 

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I never get paid for that job.

 

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Right.

 

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And we always assume

 

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he did get paid, though.

 

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Isn't that funny?

 

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That's right.

 

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We don't know if he got paid or not.

 

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But I think that Sanders, I.

 

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Every time you see something,

 

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the next job

 

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you remember it, you try to correct it.

 

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And I think that's the whole thing

 

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of being a craftsman and caring and

 

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and caring about what you do

 

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because you're thinking

 

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back, well, you know,

 

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you saw X, Y, Z at the last job.

 

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I don't want to do that again.

 

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So I'm going to change what I did.

 

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And you're constantly seeing that.

 

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And that's the I

 

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that's the whole

 

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trying to make the job perfect

 

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and achieving excellence.

 

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Yes.

 

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So you you

 

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I mean, you were right on it,

 

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right in the same page

 

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with this, because,

 

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I mean, true perfection is is

 

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is a necessary goal because it's it's

 

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it's unattainable, though, right?

 

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I mean, as you said,

 

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and I think

 

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you have to reconcile yourself

 

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with failure and living up to that.

 

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And, you know,

 

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you got to make peace with that

 

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and then get out your tools

 

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and start on the next job.

 

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And if that failure hurts to your point,

 

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if that failure hurts bad enough,

 

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they probably will.

 

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You're going to learn from that, right?

 

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And you'll take that to the next job.

 

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And and so rather than just

 

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chase perfection,

 

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if you chase excellence, as you said,

 

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because you're

 

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you'll just it's a cycle of

 

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never ending disappointments.

 

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If that if that's how you're going

 

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to live your life.

 

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I'm telling you, I.

 

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I spent a lot of time in my life

 

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chasing the perfect job.

 

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And here's the thing.

 

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The what the reason why that's a problem

 

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like perfectionism is it's

 

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often seen as a positive trait. Right.

 

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Increases your chances of success,

 

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which is how I always

 

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that was my reasoning behind it.

 

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Right.

 

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I mean, if I

 

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if it's perfect,

 

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how can anybody

 

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give me a hard time about it?

 

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How can I not get paid?

 

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But it can lead to self-defeating

 

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thoughts of behavior that that makes it

 

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hard to achieve these goals.

 

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And it causes stress.

 

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It causes anxiety and depression.

 

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And for some people,

 

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other mental health issues.

 

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And it's real.

 

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I've talked to guys

 

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that I feel sorry for.

 

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And listen, I'm not judging at all

 

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because I have 100% been there

 

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that your whole life is like,

 

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you know, trying to get a perfect score.

 

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And if it isn't, you know,

 

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how do you keep living up to that time

 

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and time again?

 

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So I think

 

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when you stop chasing perfection

 

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and you start going after excellence.

 

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Right.

 

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You know what I mean?

 

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And by the way, my

 

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my level of perfection is mine.

 

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It's not somebody else's,

 

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you know, somebody else might that like

 

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what I think is

 

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perfect might not be perfect

 

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to somebody else.

 

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I'd like to meet the man,

 

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but sorry.

 

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But you know what I mean.

 

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I dare you.

 

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Yeah.

 

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So, I mean, there's no end to perfection.

 

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That's the problem.

 

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And the chase continues forever.

 

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It just keeps going.

 

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You're never in control of.

 

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Because no matter how hard you try,

 

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no matter how much you work,

 

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something you missed, something

 

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here. There.

 

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And you also missed out

 

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on, I think, a lot of life

 

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and balance in life.

 

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So how about that, Wayne?

 

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I was reading something kind of funny

 

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now that we're into this whole perfection

 

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thing, a very successful

 

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CEO and I know you're thinking

 

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you don't read.

 

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I am going to take that joke

 

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right away from me. Oh, man. It was.

 

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It was so there.

 

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Yeah, exactly.

 

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Yeah. You going getting that one.

 

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Okay.

 

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And I was very surprised to hear him say,

 

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you know, don't let perfect

 

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get in the way of good.

 

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And that just kind of blew me away

 

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because you wouldn't think

 

266

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that somebody at that level would

 

267

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say something like that.

 

268

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I thought we were always

 

269

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supposed to go for perfection.

 

270

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Yeah.

 

271

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Before we go any farther with this,

 

272

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completely unrelated.

 

273

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But did you see

 

274

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everybody else is talking about

 

275

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so we might as well talk about it too.

 

276

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You saw

 

277

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what was a Will Smith slap.

 

278

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Chris, what's the name?

 

279

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Horrible.

 

280

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Horrible.

 

281

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That's what you thought?

 

282

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Absolutely horrible.

 

283

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Yes.

 

284

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I thought it was absolutely despicable.

 

285

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I felt so sorry for Chris.

 

286

00:08:56,502 --> 00:08:57,103

Chris,

 

287

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this last name. Damn it.

 

288

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Chris Rock.

 

289

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Chris Rock. Awesome.

 

290

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I feel so sorry for Chris Rock

 

291

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and that he had to complete that show

 

292

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after what what happened to him.

 

293

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And I was disgusted

 

294

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and I'll never

 

295

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the problem it

 

296

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and the thing is

 

297

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I like both of them a lot and I'll never

 

298

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will Smith is done to me

 

299

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I never feels the I'll never that's it

 

300

00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:21,994

never get past that.

 

301

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That superhero movie that he did Hancock

 

302

00:09:24,931 --> 00:09:26,799

I thought it was one of the

 

303

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the funniest movies ever.

 

304

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There's some scenes and lines

 

305

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in that movie that are

 

306

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just still make me laugh, but

 

307

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yeah,

 

308

00:09:35,841 --> 00:09:36,542

I don't want to

 

309

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try to play the tough guy here, but

 

310

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I'm not

 

311

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getting smacked in the face

 

312

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in front of the world

 

313

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and not getting my shot in

 

314

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and just letting them walk away

 

315

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with it's just stuck out.

 

316

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That was

 

317

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I mean, he he's got to live with that

 

318

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for the rest of his life

 

319

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and even get

 

320

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even if I run up from behind him.

 

321

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Mm hmm.

 

322

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Well, here's what.

 

323

00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:02,335

If you put yourself in his shoes,

 

324

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like I like to say the same thing

 

325

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that we all with the same thing.

 

326

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But in reality, the man had a show to do.

 

327

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It was people depending on him and he and

 

328

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he was in a bad place.

 

329

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So I don't blame him for

 

330

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for not doing that. I think

 

331

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he's a bigger man.

 

332

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And, I mean, I was

 

333

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I was desperately sorry for him

 

334

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that that happened. So.

 

335

00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:25,725

So you don't think you'd you'd hit him?

 

336

00:10:26,792 --> 00:10:27,693

I'd listen.

 

337

00:10:27,693 --> 00:10:29,061

I'd love to say that I would,

 

338

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and maybe I would,

 

339

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but I mean, you get where Chris is

 

340

00:10:33,332 --> 00:10:34,634

at, man. He had a show to do.

 

341

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He had people depending on him.

 

342

00:10:35,735 --> 00:10:37,003

And that would have been

 

343

00:10:37,003 --> 00:10:37,403

that would have been

 

344

00:10:37,403 --> 00:10:39,071

the easy thing to do, I think.

 

345

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I think it was much tougher

 

346

00:10:40,506 --> 00:10:41,540

for him to do it now.

 

347

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Afterwards, 100% it was.

 

348

00:10:45,177 --> 00:10:46,412

Yeah, 100%.

 

349

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But not not doing the show.

 

350

00:10:48,848 --> 00:10:50,349

So anyhow, just cross my mind.

 

351

00:10:50,349 --> 00:10:52,351

I don't know why it crossed my mind.

 

352

00:10:52,351 --> 00:10:53,085

Well,

 

353

00:10:53,085 --> 00:10:55,021

and you probably feel like slapping me.

 

354

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Is that what that was about?

 

355

00:10:57,156 --> 00:10:58,758

I would never, never do that. Gosh.

 

356

00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:01,193

And the

 

357

00:11:01,193 --> 00:11:04,130

other thing, too, is it's a slap

 

358

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once the guy.

 

359

00:11:04,930 --> 00:11:05,297

If that's

 

360

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what you feel like you're doing. Yeah.

 

361

00:11:07,867 --> 00:11:08,334

Punch it.

 

362

00:11:08,334 --> 00:11:11,137

Throw a punch with a slap.

 

363

00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:12,872

Yeah, it was.

 

364

00:11:13,439 --> 00:11:14,940

Now, that was horrible.

 

365

00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:15,775

Terrible.

 

366

00:11:16,208 --> 00:11:16,876

All right.

 

367

00:11:16,876 --> 00:11:17,276

So back

 

368

00:11:17,276 --> 00:11:20,212

to back to what we were talking about,

 

369

00:11:20,346 --> 00:11:21,981

that was like it was like a commercial

 

370

00:11:21,981 --> 00:11:24,383

that's not ready to cross my mind.

 

371

00:11:24,383 --> 00:11:26,085

So here's the thing.

 

372

00:11:26,085 --> 00:11:28,788

The problem with with chasing perfection.

 

373

00:11:28,788 --> 00:11:30,723

And like I said, I only bring it up

 

374

00:11:30,723 --> 00:11:32,091

because I see how

 

375

00:11:32,091 --> 00:11:34,160

how much guys are losing sleep and

 

376

00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,162

how they're stressing on it.

 

377

00:11:36,162 --> 00:11:37,830

And and holy smokes.

 

378

00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:38,531

I mean that

 

379

00:11:38,531 --> 00:11:40,800

this holding yourself to a standard

 

380

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that is unattainable.

 

381

00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:45,271

What it does is you're you're

 

382

00:11:47,173 --> 00:11:49,075

it kind of takes away your joy in life

 

383

00:11:49,075 --> 00:11:51,811

and that your feeling of accomplishment

 

384

00:11:51,811 --> 00:11:53,145

and the things that you have done

 

385

00:11:53,145 --> 00:11:53,946

in life and

 

386

00:11:53,946 --> 00:11:55,981

and being grateful for what you've done.

 

387

00:11:55,981 --> 00:11:57,616

And I think you'll

 

388

00:11:57,616 --> 00:11:59,452

you'll be more grateful

 

389

00:11:59,452 --> 00:12:00,953

and feel more positive

 

390

00:12:00,953 --> 00:12:02,955

if you get in that mindset

 

391

00:12:02,955 --> 00:12:05,091

that and I've always admired,

 

392

00:12:05,491 --> 00:12:06,659

like I never understood it

 

393

00:12:06,659 --> 00:12:08,360

when I was a contractor

 

394

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and I would talk to other contractors,

 

395

00:12:09,862 --> 00:12:11,063

some very successful ones

 

396

00:12:11,063 --> 00:12:12,298

that would say, Hey, wait,

 

397

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it's just a flaw.

 

398

00:12:13,899 --> 00:12:15,167

I mean, let's not get excited.

 

399

00:12:15,167 --> 00:12:16,335

It's just a flaw.

 

400

00:12:16,335 --> 00:12:18,070

And and that was their attitude.

 

401

00:12:18,070 --> 00:12:19,004

And it wasn't

 

402

00:12:19,004 --> 00:12:20,740

that there were any less than me

 

403

00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:21,907

or whatever that,

 

404

00:12:21,907 --> 00:12:22,742

but I think it was a

 

405

00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:23,743

much healthier attitude

 

406

00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:24,477

that was

 

407

00:12:24,643 --> 00:12:27,213

very difficult to me to get to that,

 

408

00:12:27,213 --> 00:12:29,682

that it was just a flaw that,

 

409

00:12:29,682 --> 00:12:30,015

you know,

 

410

00:12:30,015 --> 00:12:31,817

maybe because some of these guys

 

411

00:12:31,817 --> 00:12:33,619

were doing the actual work,

 

412

00:12:33,619 --> 00:12:34,253

you know what I mean?

 

413

00:12:34,253 --> 00:12:35,855

That they had guys out on the job.

 

414

00:12:35,855 --> 00:12:36,722

I think there's a difference

 

415

00:12:36,722 --> 00:12:37,957

there, by the way.

 

416

00:12:38,124 --> 00:12:40,826

I think when you're the guy on your hands

 

417

00:12:40,826 --> 00:12:41,160

and knees

 

418

00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,328

all day on that job

 

419

00:12:42,328 --> 00:12:44,163

and putting all that effort into it,

 

420

00:12:44,163 --> 00:12:45,898

you know, God knows how hard this work is

 

421

00:12:47,066 --> 00:12:48,300

that when you stand back

 

422

00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:49,735

and you're not satisfied,

 

423

00:12:49,735 --> 00:12:51,904

I think it cuts a little deeper

 

424

00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:53,439

because it's your blood, sweat and tears

 

425

00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:54,373

that are on the floor.

 

426

00:12:54,373 --> 00:12:55,741

I could be wrong.

 

427

00:12:55,741 --> 00:12:58,811

That's the way I look at it.

 

428

00:12:58,811 --> 00:13:01,147

I say I could be wrong often knowing

 

429

00:13:01,147 --> 00:13:02,281

that I'm probably actually not.

 

430

00:13:02,281 --> 00:13:04,083

Rob You don't mean that

 

431

00:13:04,083 --> 00:13:05,851

when you say you could be wrong.

 

432

00:13:05,851 --> 00:13:06,852

I'm leaving, I'm leaving.

 

433

00:13:06,852 --> 00:13:09,088

You said I'm wrong on that one.

 

434

00:13:09,088 --> 00:13:10,322

But when you say

 

435

00:13:10,322 --> 00:13:11,590

I could be wrong,

 

436

00:13:11,590 --> 00:13:13,759

that's when you're telling everybody.

 

437

00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:15,795

I'm definitely right on this one.

 

438

00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:16,862

Yes.

 

439

00:13:16,862 --> 00:13:17,329

Well, here,

 

440

00:13:17,329 --> 00:13:18,264

if you can get your

 

441

00:13:18,264 --> 00:13:20,432

if you can get to this place in life,

 

442

00:13:20,432 --> 00:13:21,801

you'll start looking yourself.

 

443

00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:22,067

Is an

 

444

00:13:22,067 --> 00:13:23,068

achievement

 

445

00:13:23,068 --> 00:13:25,137

is start instead of something less than.

 

446

00:13:26,038 --> 00:13:26,505

And I see

 

447

00:13:26,505 --> 00:13:27,039

guys will do

 

448

00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:27,873

this will say,

 

449

00:13:27,873 --> 00:13:29,608

oh, man, it's like sensational guy

 

450

00:13:29,608 --> 00:13:30,242

yeah, I know.

 

451

00:13:30,242 --> 00:13:31,510

But there's that one word right there.

 

452

00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:32,511

Other is sap grain.

 

453

00:13:32,511 --> 00:13:34,547

And there it is in a bad spot and

 

454

00:13:34,547 --> 00:13:35,514

you know, but

 

455

00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:38,017

if you stand further away

 

456

00:13:38,017 --> 00:13:40,953

and look at it, put it in perspective,

 

457

00:13:40,953 --> 00:13:41,821

sensational looking.

 

458

00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:42,655

There's no other way to put it.

 

459

00:13:42,655 --> 00:13:43,756

So don't put the benchmark.

 

460

00:13:43,756 --> 00:13:44,523

So high.

 

461

00:13:44,523 --> 00:13:45,658

Some guys can't.

 

462

00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:46,025

You're right.

 

463

00:13:46,025 --> 00:13:46,959

Some guys can't

 

464

00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:49,161

pat themselves on the back and say,

 

465

00:13:49,161 --> 00:13:51,197

hey, this really does look good.

 

466

00:13:51,197 --> 00:13:51,797

Yeah.

 

467

00:13:51,797 --> 00:13:53,732

And then there's guys like me are like,

 

468

00:13:53,732 --> 00:13:55,067

Oh, man, this is amazing.

 

469

00:13:55,067 --> 00:13:57,570

Everything I touch. Look at Europe.

 

470

00:13:57,570 --> 00:13:58,604

Yeah, but what about this?

 

471

00:13:58,604 --> 00:13:59,371

Isn't this look?

 

472

00:13:59,371 --> 00:14:00,606

That look

 

473

00:14:00,673 --> 00:14:01,473

like a coffee

 

474

00:14:01,473 --> 00:14:03,475

table is going to go right there.

 

475

00:14:03,475 --> 00:14:05,811

That that doesn't matter. Yes.

 

476

00:14:06,445 --> 00:14:07,213

Well,

 

477

00:14:07,379 --> 00:14:08,681

the other thing, Robert,

 

478

00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:09,215

what it kind of

 

479

00:14:09,215 --> 00:14:09,648

does it

 

480

00:14:09,648 --> 00:14:11,283

kind of you're held hostage

 

481

00:14:11,283 --> 00:14:13,152

almost to perfectionism.

 

482

00:14:13,152 --> 00:14:14,353

And if you can get past

 

483

00:14:14,353 --> 00:14:16,488

that, it's very free. Okay.

 

484

00:14:16,989 --> 00:14:17,890

To get past that.

 

485

00:14:17,890 --> 00:14:19,425

And I've talked to guys that are

 

486

00:14:19,425 --> 00:14:19,625

you know,

 

487

00:14:19,625 --> 00:14:22,528

and some people say think that, well, I

 

488

00:14:23,162 --> 00:14:23,596

you know,

 

489

00:14:23,596 --> 00:14:25,064

I'm not good enough

 

490

00:14:25,064 --> 00:14:25,598

or I'm not

 

491

00:14:25,598 --> 00:14:26,999

whatever, because I have to get

 

492

00:14:26,999 --> 00:14:28,067

that threshold.

 

493

00:14:28,067 --> 00:14:29,969

Another person might do that

 

494

00:14:29,969 --> 00:14:31,036

as near as quality work

 

495

00:14:31,036 --> 00:14:33,272

and enjoying the ride, a whole lot more

 

496

00:14:33,272 --> 00:14:34,273

because they're not just

 

497

00:14:34,273 --> 00:14:36,075

beating the hell out of themselves.

 

498

00:14:36,075 --> 00:14:37,843

On being a perfectionist.

 

499

00:14:37,843 --> 00:14:39,144

I see it differently now

 

500

00:14:39,144 --> 00:14:40,813

because I'm farther away from it.

 

501

00:14:40,813 --> 00:14:43,215

I, like I said, I have very few regrets,

 

502

00:14:43,816 --> 00:14:46,051

but I was a perfectionist

 

503

00:14:46,051 --> 00:14:49,321

and I was very difficult for me

 

504

00:14:49,321 --> 00:14:51,090

to get to that level of thinking, Oh,

 

505

00:14:51,090 --> 00:14:53,092

you know what? It's just words. Okay?

 

506

00:14:53,092 --> 00:14:54,827

This one didn't go so, so good

 

507

00:14:55,794 --> 00:14:56,562

as we wanted to.

 

508

00:14:56,562 --> 00:14:58,831

Will do. We'll get it on the next one.

 

509

00:14:58,831 --> 00:15:01,033

So I am you know, I'm I'm

 

510

00:15:02,101 --> 00:15:02,968

I'm

 

511

00:15:03,969 --> 00:15:05,504

saying what should be done.

 

512

00:15:05,504 --> 00:15:06,038

And I

 

513

00:15:06,038 --> 00:15:06,839

well the first minute

 

514

00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:08,774

that I had a hard time and you know what?

 

515

00:15:08,774 --> 00:15:09,808

Maybe because actually

 

516

00:15:09,808 --> 00:15:10,743

no one ever told me this

 

517

00:15:10,743 --> 00:15:11,911

either, by the way.

 

518

00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:12,378

You know what I mean?

 

519

00:15:12,378 --> 00:15:14,680

I never had another perspective

 

520

00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,115

where somebody said no.

 

521

00:15:16,115 --> 00:15:18,651

The craftsman said, it's okay.

 

522

00:15:18,651 --> 00:15:18,851

You know,

 

523

00:15:18,851 --> 00:15:20,085

I mean, it doesn't mean,

 

524

00:15:20,085 --> 00:15:22,388

you know, and, you know, guys are showing

 

525

00:15:22,421 --> 00:15:23,989

sharing pictures on social media.

 

526

00:15:23,989 --> 00:15:26,492

And I think this is such a problem, too,

 

527

00:15:26,492 --> 00:15:27,693

where guys will show

 

528

00:15:27,693 --> 00:15:29,461

pictures on social media

 

529

00:15:29,461 --> 00:15:30,462

and the I'll put it out.

 

530

00:15:30,462 --> 00:15:30,796

There's like

 

531

00:15:30,796 --> 00:15:32,164

putting yourself out there, man.

 

532

00:15:32,164 --> 00:15:32,564

You know what I mean?

 

533

00:15:32,564 --> 00:15:34,133

You put your heart out there

 

534

00:15:34,133 --> 00:15:36,802

and to somebody that's their best work.

 

535

00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:39,672

And then somebody else will say, Well,

 

536

00:15:39,672 --> 00:15:41,807

look at this joint right here and this

 

537

00:15:41,807 --> 00:15:43,542

lap and do this and whatever

 

538

00:15:43,542 --> 00:15:45,210

and you crush the guy.

 

539

00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:45,811

You know what I mean?

 

540

00:15:45,811 --> 00:15:46,545

I mean, he's

 

541

00:15:46,545 --> 00:15:48,647

he probably that's his best work today

 

542

00:15:48,647 --> 00:15:49,715

and tomorrow,

 

543

00:15:49,715 --> 00:15:51,884

his best work might be better than that.

 

544

00:15:51,884 --> 00:15:53,652

So I hate to see,

 

545

00:15:53,652 --> 00:15:55,521

especially when it comes from a really

 

546

00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:58,357

a stud, I think some people don't realize

 

547

00:15:58,357 --> 00:16:00,392

how much your words mean

 

548

00:16:00,693 --> 00:16:01,560

to somebody else,

 

549

00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,528

especially someone coming up

 

550

00:16:03,829 --> 00:16:06,165

on a on a on a

 

551

00:16:06,165 --> 00:16:08,033

post recently on one of the

 

552

00:16:08,033 --> 00:16:10,402

the flooring sites.

 

553

00:16:10,402 --> 00:16:12,137

Willie Sean

 

554

00:16:12,271 --> 00:16:13,339

is a fantastic human

 

555

00:16:13,339 --> 00:16:14,406

being and his whole family's

 

556

00:16:14,406 --> 00:16:15,541

great down there in Louisiana.

 

557

00:16:15,541 --> 00:16:16,375

They're just good people.

 

558

00:16:16,375 --> 00:16:18,243

And he's a he's a really good guy.

 

559

00:16:18,243 --> 00:16:19,445

And he was in a class

 

560

00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:20,746

and he was sharing that.

 

561

00:16:20,746 --> 00:16:22,982

Somebody that attended the class

 

562

00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:24,183

emailed him

 

563

00:16:24,183 --> 00:16:25,017

several months later,

 

564

00:16:25,017 --> 00:16:26,318

and they just went like,

 

565

00:16:26,318 --> 00:16:27,553

you know what this meant to me

 

566

00:16:27,553 --> 00:16:28,887

having you there.

 

567

00:16:28,887 --> 00:16:30,055

And what I learned from you

 

568

00:16:30,055 --> 00:16:31,056

that we're already implementing

 

569

00:16:31,056 --> 00:16:32,024

some of those things.

 

570

00:16:32,024 --> 00:16:33,826

And and I just thought, you know,

 

571

00:16:33,826 --> 00:16:34,360

and that was

 

572

00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,729

that really was heartfelt from Willie,

 

573

00:16:36,729 --> 00:16:38,297

that this meant a lot to him.

 

574

00:16:38,297 --> 00:16:41,533

And I think that's the highest

 

575

00:16:41,533 --> 00:16:42,668

compliment.

 

576

00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:44,269

You know, you're sharing your knowledge

 

577

00:16:44,269 --> 00:16:46,405

and your whatever with somebody else and

 

578

00:16:46,405 --> 00:16:47,439

and somebody got it

 

579

00:16:47,439 --> 00:16:49,608

and it meant something to them.

 

580

00:16:49,608 --> 00:16:51,410

I think if people really understood

 

581

00:16:51,410 --> 00:16:54,713

how important words are,

 

582

00:16:54,713 --> 00:16:56,148

I think they would probably do things

 

583

00:16:56,148 --> 00:16:57,483

a little differently on social media.

 

584

00:16:59,284 --> 00:16:59,585

What?

 

585

00:16:59,585 --> 00:17:01,320

Pete and I left my dad's company.

 

586

00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,522

That was one of the toughest transitions

 

587

00:17:03,522 --> 00:17:04,857

that we had.

 

588

00:17:05,190 --> 00:17:06,458

When you and Pete left

 

589

00:17:06,458 --> 00:17:07,593

your dad's company.

 

590

00:17:07,593 --> 00:17:08,961

We lost our dad's company,

 

591

00:17:08,961 --> 00:17:09,962

left my dad's company,

 

592

00:17:09,962 --> 00:17:12,464

and we started our own company.

 

593

00:17:12,664 --> 00:17:15,801

We started our GE Associates.

 

594

00:17:15,801 --> 00:17:17,870

That was the toughest thing that we had.

 

595

00:17:18,003 --> 00:17:22,307

We had we did not we were assuming

 

596

00:17:22,307 --> 00:17:23,675

that the residential business

 

597

00:17:23,675 --> 00:17:26,078

was just going to be

 

598

00:17:26,245 --> 00:17:27,446

so simple.

 

599

00:17:27,446 --> 00:17:30,215

It's not 15,000 for GM.

 

600

00:17:30,215 --> 00:17:31,450

It's not 69 Boeing.

 

601

00:17:31,450 --> 00:17:32,851

It's our factory for

 

602

00:17:32,851 --> 00:17:34,720

you're not working nights.

 

603

00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,222

This is going to be simple,

 

604

00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:41,060

but we did not have the mindset

 

605

00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:45,030

when we started about residential

 

606

00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:46,965

and residential customers

 

607

00:17:46,965 --> 00:17:49,701

and their expectations

 

608

00:17:49,701 --> 00:17:52,571

because they are expecting perfect

 

609

00:17:52,571 --> 00:17:54,640

your customers expecting a perfect floor.

 

610

00:17:55,974 --> 00:17:58,177

You know, that's the one thing

 

611

00:17:58,177 --> 00:18:01,280

that was tough for him and I to really

 

612

00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:03,549

we had to do a lot of change

 

613

00:18:03,549 --> 00:18:05,050

in pretty quick

 

614

00:18:05,050 --> 00:18:06,885

and that was a real tough transition

 

615

00:18:06,885 --> 00:18:07,352

from going

 

616

00:18:07,352 --> 00:18:09,254

from that commercial

 

617

00:18:09,254 --> 00:18:12,991

side to the residential side.

 

618

00:18:12,991 --> 00:18:15,094

But we got it. It took us a little bit.

 

619

00:18:16,562 --> 00:18:18,330

You know, it's funny about that

 

620

00:18:18,330 --> 00:18:20,466

is because I always thought

 

621

00:18:20,466 --> 00:18:22,334

Jim guys had it lucky

 

622

00:18:22,334 --> 00:18:24,336

because who really cares?

 

623

00:18:24,336 --> 00:18:25,037

It's a gym floor

 

624

00:18:25,037 --> 00:18:26,738

owned by a lot of different people,

 

625

00:18:26,738 --> 00:18:27,806

and you know what I mean?

 

626

00:18:27,806 --> 00:18:29,675

Who really looks at it that close?

 

627

00:18:29,675 --> 00:18:31,577

And it must be easier for them

 

628

00:18:31,577 --> 00:18:33,345

because, you know,

 

629

00:18:33,345 --> 00:18:35,280

unlike a homeowner who's actually

 

630

00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,181

paying for it, you're standing

 

631

00:18:36,181 --> 00:18:37,282

right there.

 

632

00:18:37,382 --> 00:18:37,683

You know,

 

633

00:18:37,683 --> 00:18:38,917

I was completely wrong after

 

634

00:18:38,917 --> 00:18:41,153

I got to know Jim. Guys, holy smokes.

 

635

00:18:41,153 --> 00:18:42,821

The standard that they're held to

 

636

00:18:42,821 --> 00:18:43,822

and how hard they work

 

637

00:18:43,822 --> 00:18:44,323

and how much pride

 

638

00:18:44,323 --> 00:18:45,224

they have in their jobs.

 

639

00:18:45,224 --> 00:18:46,625

I was wrong on that.

 

640

00:18:46,625 --> 00:18:49,228

I just didn't know those guys. Yeah.

 

641

00:18:49,228 --> 00:18:49,761

When you're saying

 

642

00:18:49,761 --> 00:18:50,529

in a bowling alley,

 

643

00:18:50,529 --> 00:18:51,463

it needs to be within

 

644

00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:54,032

30 thousands of an inch flat.

 

645

00:18:54,032 --> 00:18:54,700

We have all these

 

646

00:18:54,700 --> 00:18:56,168

special leveling standards

 

647

00:18:56,168 --> 00:18:57,035

and everything.

 

648

00:18:57,035 --> 00:18:58,170

So that's where we thought,

 

649

00:18:58,170 --> 00:19:00,405

Oh my God, we're masters of the universe.

 

650

00:19:00,405 --> 00:19:02,241

The residential game is

 

651

00:19:02,241 --> 00:19:03,809

going to be so easy.

 

652

00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:06,211

So I think it's just where you came from.

 

653

00:19:06,712 --> 00:19:07,312

Right?

 

654

00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:08,347

And then

 

655

00:19:08,347 --> 00:19:09,281

trying to transition

 

656

00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:10,249

from one to the other,

 

657

00:19:10,249 --> 00:19:11,817

but then listening to you

 

658

00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:12,985

talking about perfection,

 

659

00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:15,154

I just think back to some of the

 

660

00:19:15,754 --> 00:19:17,923

first residential jobs we did

 

661

00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:20,659

was.

 

662

00:19:20,859 --> 00:19:21,393

You just

 

663

00:19:21,393 --> 00:19:22,261

I don't want to forget this

 

664

00:19:22,261 --> 00:19:22,794

because you brought up

 

665

00:19:22,794 --> 00:19:23,962

something very important

 

666

00:19:23,962 --> 00:19:27,466

and my uncle was the the best at this.

 

667

00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:30,269

But as I as I got away from him and

 

668

00:19:30,469 --> 00:19:32,304

and started doing all thing

 

669

00:19:32,304 --> 00:19:34,072

and reflecting back on him,

 

670

00:19:34,072 --> 00:19:35,507

he wasn't like the greatest

 

671

00:19:35,507 --> 00:19:37,042

guy out there, by no means.

 

672

00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:38,510

And I don't want to disparage him

 

673

00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:40,345

because he was a freaking great guy

 

674

00:19:40,345 --> 00:19:40,746

and he was a

 

675

00:19:40,746 --> 00:19:42,681

it was a it was a good grasp,

 

676

00:19:42,681 --> 00:19:44,283

but he was a good craftsman.

 

677

00:19:44,283 --> 00:19:45,751

He wasn't one of those guys

 

678

00:19:45,751 --> 00:19:46,652

chasing perfection.

 

679

00:19:46,652 --> 00:19:48,220

He did a very service,

 

680

00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:49,521

serviceable job,

 

681

00:19:49,521 --> 00:19:52,224

very nice job, and that was it.

 

682

00:19:52,224 --> 00:19:55,494

But nobody gave him a hard time

 

683

00:19:55,494 --> 00:19:56,595

about anything like that

 

684

00:19:56,595 --> 00:19:57,996

because the way his demeanor

 

685

00:19:57,996 --> 00:20:00,132

with the homeowner was, was,

 

686

00:20:00,132 --> 00:20:02,134

I mean, what he ever lacked

 

687

00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:03,969

in the craftsmanship side

 

688

00:20:03,969 --> 00:20:06,305

on the dealing with the homeowner side.

 

689

00:20:06,805 --> 00:20:08,340

Oh, he was another level man.

 

690

00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:09,708

He was a craftsman.

 

691

00:20:09,708 --> 00:20:10,108

He was

 

692

00:20:10,108 --> 00:20:11,310

he was as he was

 

693

00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:12,444

I mean, he was a sweetheart.

 

694

00:20:12,444 --> 00:20:14,046

I mean, you could nice

 

695

00:20:14,046 --> 00:20:15,981

when he explained something to you.

 

696

00:20:15,981 --> 00:20:17,816

I don't care how mad you were

 

697

00:20:17,816 --> 00:20:19,051

or what you thought.

 

698

00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:21,286

He puts you at ease so much

 

699

00:20:21,286 --> 00:20:24,356

and that you never had any problems.

 

700

00:20:24,690 --> 00:20:26,291

And we go to the next job

 

701

00:20:26,291 --> 00:20:28,126

and I hear the homeowner go, you know,

 

702

00:20:28,126 --> 00:20:29,294

what about this? And I thought

 

703

00:20:30,629 --> 00:20:32,030

I was going to get out of this one.

 

704

00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:34,633

And it was just a thing of beauty

 

705

00:20:34,933 --> 00:20:35,767

to watch him.

 

706

00:20:35,767 --> 00:20:36,201

It was

 

707

00:20:36,201 --> 00:20:36,969

it was a

 

708

00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:39,771

marveled at him how he could just but

 

709

00:20:40,305 --> 00:20:40,739

part of that,

 

710

00:20:40,739 --> 00:20:42,608

he was a wonderful human being.

 

711

00:20:42,608 --> 00:20:45,744

But the other thing, too, is

 

712

00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:46,545

I think that,

 

713

00:20:46,545 --> 00:20:46,878

you know,

 

714

00:20:46,878 --> 00:20:47,179

you said

 

715

00:20:47,179 --> 00:20:49,281

the homeowner is expecting perfection.

 

716

00:20:49,281 --> 00:20:50,882

I think a lot of this, too, is

 

717

00:20:50,882 --> 00:20:53,252

sometimes we go on to these jobs saying,

 

718

00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:56,221

hey, I'm I'm I'm I'm so good.

 

719

00:20:56,755 --> 00:20:58,857

You know, I am. We are. We are.

 

720

00:20:58,857 --> 00:20:59,391

Oh, look at this.

 

721

00:20:59,391 --> 00:21:01,393

This guy did crap work. We are the best.

 

722

00:21:01,860 --> 00:21:02,594

And you are ready.

 

723

00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:04,563

Set yourself up for having expectations

 

724

00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:06,064

are off the charts

 

725

00:21:06,064 --> 00:21:07,432

and so there's that's

 

726

00:21:07,432 --> 00:21:09,935

one thing is that you know

 

727

00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:11,870

put their expectations in line of what's

 

728

00:21:11,870 --> 00:21:13,772

what's the reality

 

729

00:21:13,772 --> 00:21:16,441

number one and two is be ready

 

730

00:21:16,842 --> 00:21:18,343

to defend your work

 

731

00:21:18,343 --> 00:21:19,611

if something does come up

 

732

00:21:19,611 --> 00:21:20,646

without getting hostile.

 

733

00:21:20,646 --> 00:21:22,814

And that's another problem that I see.

 

734

00:21:22,814 --> 00:21:23,915

Some people have that

 

735

00:21:24,983 --> 00:21:27,753

just the way I mean, like I said,

 

736

00:21:28,053 --> 00:21:29,288

your your blood, sweat

 

737

00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:30,322

and tears, your heart

 

738

00:21:30,322 --> 00:21:32,057

and soul goes into these floors.

 

739

00:21:32,057 --> 00:21:34,092

So if anybody says anything

 

740

00:21:35,427 --> 00:21:36,862

that's like blowing.

 

741

00:21:36,862 --> 00:21:38,930

Your children are ugly.

 

742

00:21:38,930 --> 00:21:41,166

Yes. Yeah, 100%. So.

 

743

00:21:41,433 --> 00:21:43,201

So how do we handle that now? Yeah.

 

744

00:21:43,201 --> 00:21:44,336

So I said.

 

745

00:21:44,336 --> 00:21:44,970

You're going to go

 

746

00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:47,105

Will Smith on them, boy, you.

 

747

00:21:47,105 --> 00:21:48,640

Go. You want to bad.

 

748

00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,074

Yeah.

 

749

00:21:49,074 --> 00:21:51,576

So what I've learned

 

750

00:21:51,576 --> 00:21:52,644

and I've also learned this

 

751

00:21:52,644 --> 00:21:54,613

about sending emails if I'm hot.

 

752

00:21:54,613 --> 00:21:58,250

Okay, wait

 

753

00:21:58,250 --> 00:21:59,217

a day,

 

754

00:21:59,451 --> 00:22:01,253

wait two days if you're really hot.

 

755

00:22:01,253 --> 00:22:02,988

This I've only sent one email in my life.

 

756

00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:05,123

I regret it as a as a sales rep,

 

757

00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:08,660

one email in my entire career

 

758

00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:10,796

and it ended up being fine.

 

759

00:22:10,796 --> 00:22:12,464

The guy was okay with whatever,

 

760

00:22:12,464 --> 00:22:14,199

but I still regret it.

 

761

00:22:14,199 --> 00:22:15,600

And then we're on good terms today.

 

762

00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,002

But I. That was amazing.

 

763

00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:18,704

I'm never going to hold that against you.

 

764

00:22:18,704 --> 00:22:20,439

That's wonderful.

 

765

00:22:20,472 --> 00:22:21,340

All right.

 

766

00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:22,741

Don't worry about it.

 

767

00:22:22,741 --> 00:22:23,942

I can't believe you're still thinking

 

768

00:22:23,942 --> 00:22:25,110

about that, even though.

 

769

00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:26,311

Oh, yeah, I'm fine.

 

770

00:22:26,311 --> 00:22:26,712

Okay.

 

771

00:22:26,712 --> 00:22:28,814

Yeah, you brought your family into

 

772

00:22:29,681 --> 00:22:30,248

an effort,

 

773

00:22:31,216 --> 00:22:31,717

but.

 

774

00:22:31,717 --> 00:22:34,052

But you also have to take a step back

 

775

00:22:34,052 --> 00:22:35,620

and really take a breath.

 

776

00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:36,621

And Ken can,

 

777

00:22:36,621 --> 00:22:39,491

because I've see guys go from 0 to 90 and

 

778

00:22:39,624 --> 00:22:41,193

and just with one comment.

 

779

00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:44,429

So and I've seen that on inspections too.

 

780

00:22:44,429 --> 00:22:46,865

So I think you really that's something

 

781

00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:48,800

if I know that's a shortcoming of mine

 

782

00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,169

and I want to want to have a game plan,

 

783

00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:53,038

I got to take in what they said.

 

784

00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:54,473

I acknowledge it.

 

785

00:22:54,473 --> 00:22:56,675

I'll I'll try to repeat what they said

 

786

00:22:56,675 --> 00:22:57,542

so they understand that

 

787

00:22:57,542 --> 00:22:59,044

I know what they're talking about.

 

788

00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:00,045

And then I'll try to see it

 

789

00:23:00,045 --> 00:23:01,380

from their perspective,

 

790

00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:02,514

and then I'll blow up on them.

 

791

00:23:02,514 --> 00:23:04,216

No, just kidding. Yeah.

 

792

00:23:04,216 --> 00:23:05,050

Well, you know,

 

793

00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:06,752

after you said my shortcomings,

 

794

00:23:06,752 --> 00:23:08,019

I was thinking

 

795

00:23:08,019 --> 00:23:09,988

you're adhesives national sales manager.

 

796

00:23:09,988 --> 00:23:12,124

You. You don't have any shortcomings.

 

797

00:23:12,124 --> 00:23:13,125

Not anymore.

 

798

00:23:13,125 --> 00:23:16,094

You wouldn't look at all when the title.

 

799

00:23:17,095 --> 00:23:18,029

Washed everything away.

 

800

00:23:18,029 --> 00:23:20,866

Washed all that away and washed away.

 

801

00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,002

All right, so anyhow, that's

 

802

00:23:24,002 --> 00:23:26,004

that's all that that I.

 

803

00:23:26,004 --> 00:23:27,406

I thought it was a good time

 

804

00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:28,173

to talk about this

 

805

00:23:28,173 --> 00:23:30,008

because it's only been recently

 

806

00:23:30,008 --> 00:23:31,910

that I have been talking.

 

807

00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:33,812

It just seems like it's it's happening

 

808

00:23:33,812 --> 00:23:34,413

more than ever

 

809

00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:35,747

now that I talked to guys

 

810

00:23:35,747 --> 00:23:37,482

that this has come up

 

811

00:23:38,216 --> 00:23:42,621

and, you know, you strive for continually

 

812

00:23:42,721 --> 00:23:43,522

getting better.

 

813

00:23:43,522 --> 00:23:45,257

That doesn't change for improvement.

 

814

00:23:45,257 --> 00:23:47,993

But but but

 

815

00:23:47,993 --> 00:23:48,927

strive for excellence

 

816

00:23:48,927 --> 00:23:49,961

and getting better on each job

 

817

00:23:49,961 --> 00:23:52,197

and maybe not chasing perfection.

 

818

00:23:52,197 --> 00:23:55,534

And it's a journey that it's a

 

819

00:23:55,567 --> 00:23:56,635

it's a road

 

820

00:23:56,635 --> 00:23:59,171

that just you can't win that battle.

 

821

00:23:59,171 --> 00:24:02,073

I got a I got to tell you this.

 

822

00:24:02,073 --> 00:24:03,608

We're talking about perfection.

 

823

00:24:03,608 --> 00:24:06,445

And you were at the school this week.

 

824

00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:07,012

Did do

 

825

00:24:07,012 --> 00:24:07,712

you remember the guy

 

826

00:24:07,712 --> 00:24:09,981

who was sitting right in the front row

 

827

00:24:09,981 --> 00:24:10,982

to my right?

 

828

00:24:12,517 --> 00:24:13,051

The kid.

 

829

00:24:13,051 --> 00:24:15,620

The guy from New York City? Yes. Yeah.

 

830

00:24:15,654 --> 00:24:16,388

I don't. Run.

 

831

00:24:16,388 --> 00:24:18,123

Okay. Yes, I sure do.

 

832

00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:22,260

Okay.

 

833

00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:23,862

I was while he was watching me

 

834

00:24:23,862 --> 00:24:25,864

do the T bar and

 

835

00:24:25,864 --> 00:24:26,531

and I could tell

 

836

00:24:26,531 --> 00:24:27,933

that he was really watching, you know,

 

837

00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:31,069

so I was assuming that he was

 

838

00:24:32,571 --> 00:24:33,738

he was in a t bar guy.

 

839

00:24:33,738 --> 00:24:35,073

He was a roller.

 

840

00:24:35,607 --> 00:24:37,042

But when he took the T bar

 

841

00:24:37,042 --> 00:24:38,944

and he started going with it,

 

842

00:24:38,944 --> 00:24:40,846

I was like, Wow, this guy.

 

843

00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:43,248

And I even kind of mentioned to him like,

 

844

00:24:43,248 --> 00:24:44,082

you've had a T bar.

 

845

00:24:44,082 --> 00:24:46,918

He goes, Oh, yeah, I'm I'm a T bar guy.

 

846

00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:48,620

He goes, I t bar.

 

847

00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:50,322

And I go, Yeah, you look,

 

848

00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:50,555

you know,

 

849

00:24:50,555 --> 00:24:52,557

because a lot of times the school,

 

850

00:24:52,557 --> 00:24:54,426

not only are they,

 

851

00:24:54,426 --> 00:24:55,560

you know, we're teaching t bar.

 

852

00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,061

A lot of times

 

853

00:24:56,061 --> 00:24:56,795

it's the first time

 

854

00:24:56,795 --> 00:24:58,497

anybody's ever touched the t bar

 

855

00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:00,131

when they come to the class.

 

856

00:25:00,131 --> 00:25:02,400

But you could tell Adam was, you know,

 

857

00:25:03,001 --> 00:25:04,503

he was good, really good

 

858

00:25:05,470 --> 00:25:06,938

working his way out of the room.

 

859

00:25:06,938 --> 00:25:08,673

I mean, yeah, yeah.

 

860

00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:10,775

He's actually helping guys.

 

861

00:25:10,775 --> 00:25:11,042

You know,

 

862

00:25:11,042 --> 00:25:14,112

that that's another part of the bonus.

 

863

00:25:14,145 --> 00:25:16,214

And if any schools that I love

 

864

00:25:16,214 --> 00:25:18,750

is will have guys who

 

865

00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:20,752

don't have a lot of experience

 

866

00:25:20,752 --> 00:25:21,686

and we have guys

 

867

00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:25,023

who have tons of experience, which is

 

868

00:25:25,557 --> 00:25:27,692

and the great part about these guys

 

869

00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:29,361

and about all four guys,

 

870

00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:30,896

that's one thing I've noticed

 

871

00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:32,264

it just love to show people

 

872

00:25:32,264 --> 00:25:34,699

what they know. They love to share.

 

873

00:25:34,699 --> 00:25:35,634

They love their coach,

 

874

00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:36,301

they love to teach.

 

875

00:25:36,301 --> 00:25:38,003

So, so he was working

 

876

00:25:38,003 --> 00:25:38,870

with a couple of guys,

 

877

00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:39,571

showing him

 

878

00:25:39,571 --> 00:25:41,907

their little tricks and everything.

 

879

00:25:41,907 --> 00:25:43,675

So we get we get all done quote

 

880

00:25:43,675 --> 00:25:44,976

and we're waiting for stuff to dry.

 

881

00:25:44,976 --> 00:25:46,344

And I'm doing a little PowerPoint.

 

882

00:25:46,344 --> 00:25:48,246

We're talking and

 

883

00:25:49,214 --> 00:25:51,449

Adam looked at me and kind of

 

884

00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:53,552

right in the middle of everything,

 

885

00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:54,486

he goes,

 

886

00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:58,356

Are they going to have any of those

 

887

00:25:58,823 --> 00:26:00,392

those t bar contests, any,

 

888

00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:02,160

you know, regional.

 

889

00:26:02,761 --> 00:26:03,962

And I had no idea

 

890

00:26:03,962 --> 00:26:04,930

what he was talking about.

 

891

00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:06,765

Yeah.

 

892

00:26:06,765 --> 00:26:09,200

And I said he t bar contests.

 

893

00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,070

Huh. He goes, you know,

 

894

00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:13,939

like the one that you won, you know,

 

895

00:26:13,939 --> 00:26:16,374

you're you guys and he turns around

 

896

00:26:17,142 --> 00:26:19,778

and he says to the class,

 

897

00:26:19,778 --> 00:26:20,912

you know, Rob's rank

 

898

00:26:20,912 --> 00:26:22,514

like number one or three

 

899

00:26:22,514 --> 00:26:23,815

or something in the world.

 

900

00:26:23,815 --> 00:26:25,183

And I went, Oh.

 

901

00:26:25,183 --> 00:26:27,752

My gosh, oh.

 

902

00:26:27,752 --> 00:26:30,388

My God. I had no, I.

 

903

00:26:30,388 --> 00:26:32,290

That is too funny.

 

904

00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:35,193

So for all the listeners,

 

905

00:26:35,193 --> 00:26:37,495

we were just kidding.

 

906

00:26:37,562 --> 00:26:40,632

Yeah, there was no t

 

907

00:26:40,665 --> 00:26:41,633

bar contest

 

908

00:26:41,633 --> 00:26:43,268

and in Helsinki

 

909

00:26:43,268 --> 00:26:45,904

that I placed third in and.

 

910

00:26:45,904 --> 00:26:47,005

It was all made up.

 

911

00:26:47,005 --> 00:26:48,506

It was weird

 

912

00:26:48,506 --> 00:26:49,941

that we were just having fun.

 

913

00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:52,243

Wayne and I going back and forth,

 

914

00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,145

who's a better roller, better t bar

 

915

00:26:54,145 --> 00:26:56,214

guy and all that, but

 

916

00:26:57,415 --> 00:26:59,050

the it was heartbreaking

 

917

00:26:59,050 --> 00:27:01,920

but hysterical at the same time because

 

918

00:27:03,054 --> 00:27:05,423

he was so depressed

 

919

00:27:05,423 --> 00:27:07,892

that there isn't some sort of competition

 

920

00:27:08,693 --> 00:27:10,962

because he looked at me and he's he said,

 

921

00:27:10,962 --> 00:27:11,630

you know,

 

922

00:27:11,663 --> 00:27:12,864

I think I could

 

923

00:27:12,864 --> 00:27:13,698

I think I could do

 

924

00:27:13,698 --> 00:27:16,768

well at that competition.

 

925

00:27:16,768 --> 00:27:18,536

And I go, man, I know you're good.

 

926

00:27:18,536 --> 00:27:21,039

So as. To funny.

 

927

00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:23,341

So we started talking about I,

 

928

00:27:24,242 --> 00:27:25,310

I couldn't stop.

 

929

00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:27,812

I mean, we're eight and he took it great.

 

930

00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:30,181

I mean, he was laughing about it, so.

 

931

00:27:30,181 --> 00:27:31,516

Yeah, but

 

932

00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:33,952

he goes and every once in a while

 

933

00:27:33,952 --> 00:27:36,588

we would just, just blurt out, he goes.

 

934

00:27:36,755 --> 00:27:38,556

It just sounded so real

 

935

00:27:38,556 --> 00:27:41,793

the way you were talking about it.

 

936

00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:43,395

He's referring to

 

937

00:27:43,395 --> 00:27:44,462

one of our earlier episodes

 

938

00:27:44,462 --> 00:27:45,230

where Rob said,

 

939

00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:46,164

I think he said, like,

 

940

00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:47,165

you're number three in a world

 

941

00:27:47,165 --> 00:27:47,732

or whatever.

 

942

00:27:47,732 --> 00:27:48,667

I was number

 

943

00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,402

five in a world or something.

 

944

00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:51,536

I remember Lenny Hall saying

 

945

00:27:51,536 --> 00:27:52,804

he was like number one in the world

 

946

00:27:52,804 --> 00:27:54,873

because he he walked on water one time

 

947

00:27:56,641 --> 00:27:58,910

with a T bar, which I witnessed.

 

948

00:27:58,910 --> 00:28:00,779

So I had to give it. Up to do that.

 

949

00:28:00,779 --> 00:28:02,781

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

950

00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:04,482

So he dropped it. Yeah.

 

951

00:28:04,482 --> 00:28:06,551

He actually dropped my ranking down

 

952

00:28:06,551 --> 00:28:08,053

right where I went from.

 

953

00:28:08,053 --> 00:28:08,987

After I saw that, I went

 

954

00:28:08,987 --> 00:28:12,390

I dropped to fifth in the world.

 

955

00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:14,592

But now that you brought that up,

 

956

00:28:14,592 --> 00:28:15,326

you finished on that

 

957

00:28:15,326 --> 00:28:16,861

thought or you have anything else?

 

958

00:28:16,861 --> 00:28:17,529

Well,

 

959

00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:18,596

I mean, I was thinking

 

960

00:28:18,596 --> 00:28:22,667

City Floors has that awesome NAYLOR Day.

 

961

00:28:22,667 --> 00:28:24,135

I'm kicking around something

 

962

00:28:24,135 --> 00:28:25,203

that maybe we can do

 

963

00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:26,604

at some of our training centers,

 

964

00:28:26,604 --> 00:28:29,174

and I think that might be fun.

 

965

00:28:29,607 --> 00:28:31,176

They have like a tea bar day

 

966

00:28:31,176 --> 00:28:32,677

set up some

 

967

00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:34,946

set up some long hallways or something.

 

968

00:28:34,946 --> 00:28:37,649

But I got to do something just

 

969

00:28:37,882 --> 00:28:39,250

just for Adam because

 

970

00:28:40,985 --> 00:28:43,221

he's got to get a gold and t bar somehow.

 

971

00:28:43,855 --> 00:28:44,689

As funny

 

972

00:28:44,689 --> 00:28:45,790

he said the golden t bar

 

973

00:28:45,790 --> 00:28:46,825

because I was on a job

 

974

00:28:46,825 --> 00:28:48,626

one time and with this guy

 

975

00:28:48,626 --> 00:28:50,228

and this was like

 

976

00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:51,362

first go, it didn't go good.

 

977

00:28:51,362 --> 00:28:52,097

The second got him.

 

978

00:28:52,097 --> 00:28:54,032

This was like the last attempt

 

979

00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:54,933

to get this job right

 

980

00:28:54,933 --> 00:28:55,800

that someone was going

 

981

00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,102

to lose their mind.

 

982

00:28:57,102 --> 00:28:58,336

And it was a stress

 

983

00:28:58,336 --> 00:28:59,838

was off the charts on this job.

 

984

00:28:59,838 --> 00:29:00,405

And these guys

 

985

00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,173

I was out there on the job with them

 

986

00:29:02,173 --> 00:29:04,142

and one guy coated the floor,

 

987

00:29:04,142 --> 00:29:04,375

you know,

 

988

00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:06,211

like everybody's watching him, like,

 

989

00:29:06,211 --> 00:29:06,678

you know what I mean?

 

990

00:29:06,678 --> 00:29:08,213

Because it's like the tension was

 

991

00:29:08,213 --> 00:29:09,781

you could cut it with a knife.

 

992

00:29:09,781 --> 00:29:11,716

And he came back and he nailed it.

 

993

00:29:11,716 --> 00:29:13,351

So I went on that night and I got a T,

 

994

00:29:13,351 --> 00:29:13,852

I got a T

 

995

00:29:13,852 --> 00:29:14,586

bar and I

 

996

00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:15,954

and I spray paint with gold

 

997

00:29:15,954 --> 00:29:16,621

and I and I,

 

998

00:29:16,621 --> 00:29:18,423

and I put glitter all over it.

 

999

00:29:18,423 --> 00:29:19,724

And I drove over to his shop

 

1000

00:29:19,724 --> 00:29:21,493

and I gave him the golden t bar.

 

1001

00:29:21,493 --> 00:29:23,428

That's awesome. Yeah.

 

1002

00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:25,463

But where's he going to say this?

 

1003

00:29:25,463 --> 00:29:27,499

But since you brought that up,

 

1004

00:29:27,499 --> 00:29:28,299

one of the things when

 

1005

00:29:28,299 --> 00:29:29,467

we're chasing perfection

 

1006

00:29:30,602 --> 00:29:32,604

and has been made easy in two

 

1007

00:29:32,604 --> 00:29:34,105

ways in this industry,

 

1008

00:29:34,105 --> 00:29:36,875

so even if you do these things,

 

1009

00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:37,776

you're

 

1010

00:29:38,376 --> 00:29:40,011

head and shoulders above guys.

 

1011

00:29:40,011 --> 00:29:42,247

Years ago it didn't have this.

 

1012

00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:44,282

And it's the same thing with the

 

1013

00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:46,284

with the power drive you will get.

 

1014

00:29:46,284 --> 00:29:47,685

That is for

 

1015

00:29:47,685 --> 00:29:48,353

as perfect

 

1016

00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:49,287

as you can possibly get

 

1017

00:29:49,287 --> 00:29:51,055

if you stand for the power drive.

 

1018

00:29:51,055 --> 00:29:53,191

And that's not perfect enough.

 

1019

00:29:53,191 --> 00:29:54,159

I don't know what to say.

 

1020

00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:55,994

I mean, you've

 

1021

00:29:55,994 --> 00:29:57,862

done the industry with that

 

1022

00:29:57,862 --> 00:29:59,497

and also rolling

 

1023

00:29:59,497 --> 00:30:01,399

is a technique that I think has come

 

1024

00:30:01,399 --> 00:30:03,134

along, has really helped

 

1025

00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:04,068

get a perfect floor

 

1026

00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:07,305

as close to perfect as you can get.

 

1027

00:30:07,672 --> 00:30:08,673

And as I said before,

 

1028

00:30:08,673 --> 00:30:10,141

I don't know all my jobs.

 

1029

00:30:10,141 --> 00:30:12,110

I don't it just depends on the layout.

 

1030

00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:13,178

It depends on which goat.

 

1031

00:30:13,178 --> 00:30:14,312

I never roll a silk out.

 

1032

00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:15,980

I don't believe in rolling steel, coach.

 

1033

00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:17,415

It's my personal opinion

 

1034

00:30:17,415 --> 00:30:18,483

I to borrow my seal go

 

1035

00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:20,485

sometimes I T-bar the last coat

 

1036

00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:21,820

but there are times when the only thing

 

1037

00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:22,887

I would touch that floor

 

1038

00:30:22,887 --> 00:30:23,855

would be a roller.

 

1039

00:30:23,855 --> 00:30:25,857

So technology has kept,

 

1040

00:30:25,857 --> 00:30:27,992

you know, has kept us ahead of the curve.

 

1041

00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,093

So do do

 

1042

00:30:31,462 --> 00:30:32,530

you know the

 

1043

00:30:32,530 --> 00:30:33,998

we talk about the training centers

 

1044

00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:34,399

all time.

 

1045

00:30:34,399 --> 00:30:35,733

You could practice whatever you can screw

 

1046

00:30:35,733 --> 00:30:37,001

before as bad as you want.

 

1047

00:30:37,001 --> 00:30:38,703

But there is technology out there.

 

1048

00:30:38,703 --> 00:30:40,972

I don't want to get away from from a

 

1049

00:30:40,972 --> 00:30:42,841

or our topic, but

 

1050

00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:45,543

but that will absolutely help,

 

1051

00:30:45,543 --> 00:30:47,445

especially if you're a perfectionist.

 

1052

00:30:47,445 --> 00:30:49,080

So there you go.

 

1053

00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,882

Let me ask you a question.

 

1054

00:30:50,882 --> 00:30:53,518

What's the biggest improvement,

 

1055

00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:55,053

the last biggest improvement

 

1056

00:30:55,053 --> 00:30:57,922

you've seen since the power drive?

 

1057

00:30:58,356 --> 00:31:00,158

You want to know the truth

 

1058

00:31:00,425 --> 00:31:02,193

for that stupid question, wasn't it?

 

1059

00:31:02,193 --> 00:31:03,361

I'll tell you what it is, Rob.

 

1060

00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:04,395

No, lie to me.

 

1061

00:31:04,395 --> 00:31:05,763

I love when people say let me.

 

1062

00:31:05,763 --> 00:31:07,532

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

1063

00:31:07,532 --> 00:31:08,166

I'll tell you the truth.

 

1064

00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:10,435

I'm not lying. No lighting.

 

1065

00:31:10,435 --> 00:31:13,004

So the biggest improvement since the bar,

 

1066

00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:16,708

well, that's an easy one for me.

 

1067

00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:17,242

I'm trying to think

 

1068

00:31:17,242 --> 00:31:18,643

if there's any when there's a.

 

1069

00:31:18,643 --> 00:31:20,211

Well, no, no, I mean in equipment.

 

1070

00:31:20,211 --> 00:31:21,379

I'm talking equipment.

 

1071

00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:23,581

Or do I owe power driver?

 

1072

00:31:23,581 --> 00:31:25,383

I'm going to tell you what mine is.

 

1073

00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:25,750

Oh.

 

1074

00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:27,785

Before this to the class the other day.

 

1075

00:31:27,785 --> 00:31:29,954

Hold on a second.

 

1076

00:31:29,954 --> 00:31:30,521

Are you saying

 

1077

00:31:30,521 --> 00:31:31,656

what is the biggest improvement

 

1078

00:31:31,656 --> 00:31:33,725

in equipment since the power drive?

 

1079

00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:35,960

Yes. Okay,

 

1080

00:31:36,327 --> 00:31:37,028

go ahead.

 

1081

00:31:37,829 --> 00:31:39,497

I think

 

1082

00:31:39,764 --> 00:31:41,232

the last thing I can remember the

 

1083

00:31:41,232 --> 00:31:43,801

is as anything close to the power drive

 

1084

00:31:44,469 --> 00:31:48,973

was when we went from drums to belts.

 

1085

00:31:48,973 --> 00:31:50,308

I don't think there's been

 

1086

00:31:50,308 --> 00:31:53,478

a bigger improvement since then,

 

1087

00:31:53,478 --> 00:31:56,281

since we got to the power drive.

 

1088

00:31:56,281 --> 00:31:57,649

Just my opinion.

 

1089

00:31:57,649 --> 00:32:00,251

Yeah I agree.

 

1090

00:32:00,251 --> 00:32:01,586

One well when you

 

1091

00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:03,187

when I say it's just my opinion

 

1092

00:32:03,187 --> 00:32:04,589

that means that Yeah.

 

1093

00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:05,723

You think it right.

 

1094

00:32:05,723 --> 00:32:06,457

And yeah.

 

1095

00:32:06,457 --> 00:32:08,393

I'm right and nobody can be ready.

 

1096

00:32:08,393 --> 00:32:09,560

Yeah, that's right.

 

1097

00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,262

It's just my humble opinion.

 

1098

00:32:12,463 --> 00:32:13,698

Well, here's what the

 

1099

00:32:13,698 --> 00:32:15,233

here's what the Bill Sanders did

 

1100

00:32:15,233 --> 00:32:17,435

over the drum. Sanders

 

1101

00:32:17,502 --> 00:32:20,438

split drums is that now

 

1102

00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:23,041

the learning curve was cut way down

 

1103

00:32:23,041 --> 00:32:25,143

when you went to the belts.

 

1104

00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:26,511

They they're they're

 

1105

00:32:26,511 --> 00:32:27,578

they're are very much

 

1106

00:32:27,578 --> 00:32:29,781

it finds cutting machine sending machine

 

1107

00:32:30,181 --> 00:32:31,182

and even the loading

 

1108

00:32:31,182 --> 00:32:31,983

the paper

 

1109

00:32:31,983 --> 00:32:32,850

and chatters

 

1110

00:32:32,850 --> 00:32:33,918

and that type of stuff with it

 

1111

00:32:33,918 --> 00:32:35,520

with the split drum

 

1112

00:32:35,820 --> 00:32:37,288

was a

 

1113

00:32:38,122 --> 00:32:40,291

it was an art. Right.

 

1114

00:32:40,291 --> 00:32:42,493

And it eliminated half the time

 

1115

00:32:42,493 --> 00:32:44,529

on the buffer trying to remove jams.

 

1116

00:32:45,763 --> 00:32:47,732

Yep. Yep.

 

1117

00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:48,433

At all.

 

1118

00:32:48,433 --> 00:32:50,268

In my humble opinion.

 

1119

00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:51,169

Yes.

 

1120

00:32:51,736 --> 00:32:53,037

This is the greatest thing

 

1121

00:32:53,037 --> 00:32:54,305

since the belt sander.

 

1122

00:32:54,305 --> 00:32:56,107

I agree with you on that.

 

1123

00:32:56,107 --> 00:32:57,075

You're kidding.

 

1124

00:32:57,075 --> 00:33:01,079

Now, once again, right?

 

1125

00:33:01,713 --> 00:33:02,246

Must be right.

 

1126

00:33:02,246 --> 00:33:05,016

If we both hit the bill from your belt.

 

1127

00:33:05,049 --> 00:33:06,217

If I did.

 

1128

00:33:07,185 --> 00:33:09,187

This has been a pleasure talking to you.

 

1129

00:33:09,187 --> 00:33:10,755

It always is.

 

1130

00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:13,157

And like Roddy Piper said,

 

1131

00:33:13,157 --> 00:33:14,892

the pleasure is all mine.

 

1132

00:33:14,892 --> 00:33:18,129

Yes, yes, for sure.

 

1133

00:33:18,363 --> 00:33:19,931

And to our listeners,

 

1134

00:33:19,931 --> 00:33:21,099

they thank you for listening.

 

1135

00:33:21,099 --> 00:33:21,933

We really appreciate it.

 

1136

00:33:21,933 --> 00:33:23,334

We really do appreciate it.

 

1137

00:33:23,334 --> 00:33:24,669

And I hope everybody's

 

1138

00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:25,603

doing well out there

 

1139

00:33:25,603 --> 00:33:27,271

and that we're coming into spring.

 

1140

00:33:27,271 --> 00:33:29,640

We got out of the winter months.

 

1141

00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,275

Still some industry challenges, right?

 

1142

00:33:31,275 --> 00:33:31,509

I mean,

 

1143

00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:33,644

but there's nothing that we can't handle

 

1144

00:33:33,644 --> 00:33:35,947

and we hope everybody's

 

1145

00:33:35,947 --> 00:33:38,316

well out there and

 

1146

00:33:38,316 --> 00:33:40,618

and we want to thank you again very much

 

1147

00:33:40,618 --> 00:33:42,153

for listening to the podcast.

 

1148

00:33:42,153 --> 00:33:43,321

We really do appreciate it.

 

1149

00:33:43,321 --> 00:33:45,656

Rob and I and the whole Boner team.

 

1150

00:33:45,656 --> 00:33:47,925

And please do stay tuned too

 

1151

00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:49,460

for another episode.

 

1152

00:33:49,894 --> 00:33:51,662

I almost had that down pretty good.

 

1153

00:33:51,662 --> 00:33:54,065

Stay tuned and stay tuned. If you don't,

 

1154

00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:56,701

spring is coming, so stay tuned.

 

1155

00:33:56,701 --> 00:33:57,969

Stay tuned

 

1156

00:33:57,969 --> 00:33:58,503

because summer is

 

1157

00:33:58,503 --> 00:34:01,239

right around the corner. Yeah.

 

1158

00:34:01,239 --> 00:34:02,206

Thank you, everybody.

 

1159

00:34:02,206 --> 00:34:11,549

And take care of.