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Hope you.
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Hello and welcome
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to another episode of On the Floor
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with Wayne Rock and Wayne Highlander.
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As a sales manager for more releases.
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I'm Rob Johnson from Moana Training.
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As much as we say that, Rob,
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do you think there would be like,
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a canned, like, you know what I mean?
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Like, it's just do it every week
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without us having say it.
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You think you
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you don't want to do the opening anymore
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with me, is that it?
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I think we're big enough now that we can,
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you know.
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Yeah.
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Boy, those reruns
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have really gone to your head,
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We kind of did. Yeah.
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That was like. Yeah. We're working.
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Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
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You know, like Seinfeld now,
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Yeah. Yeah.
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All right.
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So today we are going to
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talk about blow dry fasting.
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Rob I have
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something that has haunted me for I'd say
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going on 25 years maybe
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I mixed up a stain color one time.
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That was so beautiful.
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It was beyond words.
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And I have thought about that floor
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and that stain color.
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I'm telling you a thousand times
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and I could not tell you what color
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it is.
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Oh.
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I told you that
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we used to do these apartment
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buildings for these three attorneys,
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and this was his
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he was going to live in this one.
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He was on the top floor
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is really nice place.
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And he was saying, you know, I don't care
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just because sometime
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something in the color
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range that you guys do,
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you know, don't just do what you do.
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I said, all right.
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So there was an opportunity for us.
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What are you going to do at that point?
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Let me get rid of what's in here.
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I got this one that's happened.
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Let's get rid of some of that
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or bunch of stuff together.
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And we started doing that floor,
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and it was the most gorgeous floor
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I've ever seen.
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The light
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and and me
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and my brother stood back in the garden.
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Give a man this beautiful man.
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And I could not tell you
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I couldn't do it again to save
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my life, to get that color. I
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mean, it's haunted me.
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I mean, even to this day,
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it's funny to me
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that I don't know what that color is, so.
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All right, I'm a fan of Bach.
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I like Bone of Bach.
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Okay?
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And everybody who's been to my schools
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and everything
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knows that I'm a Bach guy
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that's, you know,
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even the guys working with me, they know.
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Yeah.
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Rob's doing a stain demo.
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It's going to be Bach.
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And I was, doing a school in Jersey,
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maybe a year, a year and a half ago.
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And, our buddy Jeff.
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Oh, Fredo.
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He said, hey, I know you like using Bach,
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but I've got a ton of this stain
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that, you know, we gotta kind of use.
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You gotta get rid of, you know?
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And I said, you know, what is it?
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Get kind of like a blank canvas,
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you know?
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And he's like, oh, it's a stain that,
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Howard Brickman and myself,
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we worked on it
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and came up with this color for
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Museum of Modern Art, some huge
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The Towers Museum, modern Mar Tower.
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I mean, it was a massive job.
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What a beautiful color that was.
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I had to give it to him.
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Wow. I had to give him his props.
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I'm like, man,
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I hope you know what the ratio.
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He goes,
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oh yeah, we definitely know
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because he's got a couple of cases of it,
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but it's kind of like the Bach
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with a little bit of red.
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And that's
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that's turned into my go to color
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I call it the Alfredo.
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Yeah I gotta give it up to Jeff man.
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That was absolutely beautiful color.
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Beautiful.
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Wow.
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So man it's amazing what you can do
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with the bone and dry thing
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where you just not locked into
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one specific type of a color.
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Well, here's the thing.
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And here's why
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I think we probably good time
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to talk about this.
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If,
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if you slipped on the bonus things
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and you thought, no, no, I'm
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using something. Whatever.
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I already know
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these are what they look like
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and everything
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and haven't dived into these
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first of all, the the cost,
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the cost of the stain per square foot
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and the ease of use.
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I'm telling you,
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I think it's going to
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surprise some people,
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and especially if you haven't
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looked at them in a while
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or whatever you that.
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No, I, I'm using such and such.
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I invite you to look to look at the cost
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of what
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and the dry time and the ease of use,
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especially if you buff on stains.
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I don't think there's anything on planet
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Earth that buffs on easier.
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So, That's
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kind of what I wanted to talk about.
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This.
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I was out on some jobs last couple weeks,
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and I was out with one with my brothers,
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and, they had it
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because he said, pass on their regards.
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Rob. Oh.
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Thank you.
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Tell him I said hello.
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Yep.
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But, it kind of, you know,
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kind of,
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you know, get away from the field
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a little bit.
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You kind of,
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you think you're, you're invested
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in, you know, whatever.
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But, you know,
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then do you go back to a job saying,
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you know, yeah,
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it comes back a little quicker,
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but even the smell of it and everything,
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just really,
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tell you if you've slept on the
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stage and you thought, nuh
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we haven't tried them or have
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is what we got,
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I would say, look at the whole picture.
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Look at the cost per square foot.
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Look at other things like lead back,
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look at things like drive time,
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look at things like ease of use
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and the color selection
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and the blended charts.
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I think it was a surprise.
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Some people.
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That's why,
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yesterday you you talk about ease of use.
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Yesterday I had a crew when two crews
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at the
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training facility in Jersey
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beaten brothers,
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guys from beaten brothers,
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their fourth generation, Dave was there
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with his guy.
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And, they had never really used
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too much bonus thing.
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they kind of use somebody else's thing.
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And they had never
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buffed on stain either.
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You know, they had
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they were really worried about how,
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you know, what a mess it was going to be.
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And, you know,
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I remember thinking the same thing
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when I know you can't put stain on the
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what a what a disaster that would be.
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Well, when we,
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you know, we do it our way.
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We the carpet pad put it in the center,
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you know, don't cut the edges first.
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Cut them after you've buffed
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as close as you can and everything.
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And I, you know,
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I let those two guys, do it.
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And I'll never forget he gets done.
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He looks at me,
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he goes, you're kidding me.
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I said, no, that's because that's it.
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I go, oh, now
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he's just going to take a clean carpet
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pad and just,
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you know, buff everything out.
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He goes, you walk, I go, yeah,
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walk right on it.
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You know, just buff your prints out,
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you know, out the door you go.
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And, when they got done, it was so funny
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because the two guys
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just kept looking at each other.
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I love when you.
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You say something
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and then
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the two guys look right at each other,
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like, and.
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But when he looked at me
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and he goes, you're kidding me.
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This is it.
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I go, yeah, yeah,
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add a little bit at a time.
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I think some of the mistakes
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sometimes people make
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when they're using a carpet pad
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is they oversaturate the pad,
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they put too much stain on it,
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then it starts to get a little sloppy.
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But if you make a couple of passes,
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stop, add a little bit
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and make a few passes.
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Get into a good groove.
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a good consistency
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of when you're going to add that stain
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so you don't kind of run dry
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and you just keep that thing flowing.
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But when he looked at me
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and he said, you're kidding
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me, that's it.
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I go, yeah, that's it.
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There's that too much.
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And I think what people
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I think what I want people
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to understand too about bona
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and I know it sounds like,
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oh yeah, you know, they're bona guys.
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So they're going to talk about bona.
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But
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there's some stains out there
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that are sold in the big box stores
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and everything that are,
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you know, they're made for other things.
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You know, they're made for furniture,
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they're made for, you know, whatever.
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a lot of things that bone A has is made
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specifically for floor mat for floors,
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you know,
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and I don't think sometimes guys
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get like our sandpaper,
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our sandpaper isn't
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oh, are you going to find it
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in the automotive industry
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or the painting industry or anything yet.
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No. Our sandpaper is specific.
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Made at a lab
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just for floor guys,
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just for sanding floors.
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Everything we do like our stain,
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you know, our we don't
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I don't know,
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of course,
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it'll probably work on furniture
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and everything, but it's made for floors.
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And we know that, you know, a floor guy
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need something that's easy to work with
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and he's going to be successful with.
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So all of our testing
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and everything is done specifically
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with hardwood floors or wood floors.
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But I don't know why.
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I just thought of this.
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Do you remember,
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Dilbert Adams and Sheffield
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hardwood up in Canada?
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I am going to see him in three weeks.
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Yes, I am too.
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Yes.
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So are you going to that school?
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Yeah.
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I'm.
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No, I'm, he's going to be coming
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to another thing in Colorado.
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So I'll be I'll be seeing him.
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So,
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I don't know why
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he just popped in my mind, but,
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I'd be cool to see him.
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When you talked about being at the school
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and whatever.
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Yeah, he was,
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just came to my mind anyhow.
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Good guy.
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That's, you know, there's a guy who.
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This is a second career for him, and,
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and,
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really came to one of the schools
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and just had a fantastic time.
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And Eddie
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and you talk about someone who's done
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a great job.
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I'm really happy for him
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and his new bride.
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They did a great job.
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So I don't like came in my mind.
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But no, he was,
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it's funny because he was he's
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one of those guys that,
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he came to a school, and him and
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I have been in touch ever since that day.
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It's amazing how many friends I've made.
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Yeah.
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Through the years doing trainings
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and people.
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Dell was definitely one of them.
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And all he wanted to do was the best,
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right?
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He just wanted to do the best.
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He didn't want to take no shortcuts.
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He wanted to learn the best.
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You, you know,
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he'll do he'll
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he'll do whatever it took
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to do the job the right way
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and be the best.
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So hat's off to him.
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I don't know why
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it crossed my mind, but anyhow,
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I guess
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I put you to sleep with that story.
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Is that it?
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You're just.
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You're flying away now.
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Mind was,
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You think if I can
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remember what you were talking about.
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Hang on a minute.
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Come on, baby,
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you were puffing on this thing.
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You know, puffing on steam.
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The other crew saw it.
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Couldn't believe how easy it was.
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Yes.
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And there you go.
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That's it? Yes. And.
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And you went fishing together?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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See, folks, that's what happens
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when you get national in your title.
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Once you get that national in your title,
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you're into a whole different level of
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thought process.
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There's
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lots of things going on.
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Too many things.
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You know, I was in the gym,
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I think about 3 or 4 days ago.
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And, there's
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this guy I just don't like in the gym,
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you know?
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I mean, you guys remember me
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the wrong way all the time
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and talk to me
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in an inappropriate times about stuff
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I don't care about
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when I'm trying to get in and get out,
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do my thing. And,
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he said the other day, he goes, hey,
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you really worked up a lather.
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I mean, you're sweating, you know?
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I'm I'm on the machine. I'm.
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I'm drenched,
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I said,
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and I know this guy is younger than me
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because I heard him tell somebody else
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they went to school together.
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So I said, hey, listen, when I get if I,
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if I could
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hang as good as you are your age, man,
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I'm going to be happy as hell.
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And he goes, well, do you?
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61 and he didn't say anything,
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but I know he's 56.
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So it's a little thing.
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There you go.
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Maybe that'll keep him away.
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Yeah. Hey. Yes.
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That's it.
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You want to step off the porch?
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This is what you're going to get?
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Absolutely.
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That's a beautiful one.
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So, Rob, why?
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I, I grew up with Grace. Grace? Things,
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I heard the other day,
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some guys talk about. Oh, be careful.
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Grace things.
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I mean, there's
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that they're
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problematic and white stains,
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but I still worry about that.
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Dark stains,
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all these things still in in, in,
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you know, in vogue right now.
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So do you have any recommendations
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on on the, the water popping?
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I think
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I think water popping
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is the absolute key to everything,
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you know?
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Hey, if you have a maple floor,
444
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let's let's start with maple.
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You can't stain a maple floor.
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If you look at the MFM, may guidebook.
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Okay.
448
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Maple Flooring Manufacturers Association,
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they're the governing body
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of basketball courts, Maple floors.
451
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And they set the lines in the game
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lines and sizes three point everything
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they have a whole page on do
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not stain maple floors
455
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don't do it.
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They can't be stained.
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Don't know.
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We show people
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how to stain that maple at every class.
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And I think there is not a pretty.
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You're looking for more
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than a stain maple floor.
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It almost looks like marble.
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You know this class that we did,
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yesterday, I took our natural stain
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and our water, our oil base,
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court lines, paint
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did a 1 to 1 ratio of blue,
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buffed it on
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simple
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water, popped it to maple, buffed it on,
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coated it.
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It looks like a piece of marble.
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It is just the prettiest color
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you've ever seen on me.
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I mean, it was. It's spectacular.
477
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But with all the new,
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the grays, the darks,
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whites.
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Personally, I don't know why
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you wouldn't want to pop everything,
482
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you know, water pop.
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And the other thing about water popping.
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Going to remove
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some of those little edger marks
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that you might have missed,
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or some swirl marks
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from the buff or something.
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You know, water popping
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also is going to help that.
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But to achieve color
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and consistency, you
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water Poppins,
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you know absolutely the way to go.
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Okay,
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can I give my all time best dating tip?
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Absolutely.
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I've been waiting for it.
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Where's your better
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look among the
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you hold it.
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All right.
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It's my all time favorite.
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The you get the bell.
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I've said this before,
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but in case somebody hasn't heard it.
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And I know most people don't do this,
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and I'm totally fine with it.
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But beyond a shadow of a doubt,
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I've never seen it done any better.
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Is, we used to,
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wipe the stain on like you normally do.
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And let's say you water pump the floor,
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you know,
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and you get some green rays
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and what have you. Right.
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What about the floor?
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And then,
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wipe the stain on like you normally do.
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But before we wipe the stain off,
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take a maroon pad
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and buff that section of wet stain.
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Now, I will take the maroon pad first.
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And I was swirling around in the wet
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stain a little bit first. So it doesn't.
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That initial talk doesn't bite into much,
527
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but then I buff that section of the floor
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real good, and then we tell it off.
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Nobody will ever tell me
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it can be done any better.
531
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All right, guys, wait.
532
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Let me let me back this up.
533
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Okay. So you apply.
534
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If I was going to do a car carpet pet,
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you would apply it with the carpet pad.
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No. Okay.
537
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So that's the
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that's the difference here though.
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So I got two things about this.
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One is what we did it.
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We rag on the wet stain okay.
542
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And then we, we we
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we hit it with the buffer and then we rag
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off, or you can,
545
00:16:03,162 --> 00:16:05,431
you can tell off with the, with the pad.
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Nowadays, what I might do differently
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is I might put it on with, like,
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a lamb's wool,
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the stain instead of on the hands
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and knees. Wipe it on. We didn't do that.
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So there might be a way
552
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you could save some time.
553
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Right there, but.
554
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And you could say, well, it's more labor.
555
00:16:19,845 --> 00:16:21,280
Yeah. And you'd be right.
556
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But here's how you get it back.
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When that first coat goes
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on, it looks done.
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You got a water pump floor.
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That is all the beautiful depth
561
00:16:29,722 --> 00:16:31,190
of a water pump for.
562
00:16:31,190 --> 00:16:32,791
But it's it's as smooth
563
00:16:32,791 --> 00:16:34,226
as if you stand on the floor
564
00:16:34,226 --> 00:16:35,728
with like a 180 grit
565
00:16:35,728 --> 00:16:36,662
because you burnished it.
566
00:16:36,662 --> 00:16:37,296
You push the
567
00:16:37,296 --> 00:16:38,263
you push the stain
568
00:16:38,263 --> 00:16:40,099
out into the soft wood. You burnished it.
569
00:16:40,099 --> 00:16:41,033
Any little
570
00:16:41,033 --> 00:16:43,769
green rays, you knock that down and rob
571
00:16:43,769 --> 00:16:44,970
you wiping that off or whatever
572
00:16:44,970 --> 00:16:45,871
you walk on next day
573
00:16:45,871 --> 00:16:47,139
when your hand across it,
574
00:16:47,139 --> 00:16:48,307
you put that first coat on it.
575
00:16:49,541 --> 00:16:49,808
Yeah.
576
00:16:49,808 --> 00:16:52,344
I've never seen it done any better.
577
00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:55,080
This, this this caused my myself
578
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:55,914
and my youngest brother
579
00:16:55,914 --> 00:16:58,917
one of our biggest fights.
580
00:17:02,821 --> 00:17:05,157
Because
581
00:17:05,157 --> 00:17:07,693
I will swear to you that this was my.
582
00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:09,728
I brought this to the to the world.
583
00:17:09,728 --> 00:17:10,562
This is my idea.
584
00:17:10,562 --> 00:17:13,665
Oh, I won't say anything.
585
00:17:14,133 --> 00:17:15,534
I will swear to it, I will.
586
00:17:15,534 --> 00:17:17,703
I will bet my house on it.
587
00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:18,237
My brother
588
00:17:18,237 --> 00:17:21,106
Doug will say exactly the same thing
589
00:17:21,106 --> 00:17:22,708
with exactly as much passion
590
00:17:22,708 --> 00:17:25,511
as I'm telling you that it was his idea.
591
00:17:25,511 --> 00:17:28,514
Now he is so passionate about it.
592
00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,149
I don't know if I bet the house now
593
00:17:30,149 --> 00:17:32,117
because he swears up and down. This is.
594
00:17:32,117 --> 00:17:33,452
This is his idea
595
00:17:33,452 --> 00:17:34,520
and I will tell you the same thing.
596
00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,622
So I don't know which one of us now
597
00:17:36,622 --> 00:17:39,625
came up with this, but I know one thing.
598
00:17:39,691 --> 00:17:42,027
I've never seen it done any better.
599
00:17:42,027 --> 00:17:43,429
So you think if I put it down
600
00:17:43,429 --> 00:17:45,931
with a carpet pad, it would be too thin?
601
00:17:45,931 --> 00:17:47,733
I think it'd be too thin.
602
00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:50,702
So that little extra stain on there.
603
00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:51,003
Yeah.
604
00:17:51,003 --> 00:17:53,672
Gives you a little bit of a cushion. Yes.
605
00:17:53,672 --> 00:17:55,741
Now two things.
606
00:17:55,741 --> 00:17:58,544
One, I went with a guy on the job
607
00:17:58,544 --> 00:17:59,111
one time.
608
00:17:59,111 --> 00:18:01,280
It was an every four he water popped
609
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,448
and we did this upstairs
610
00:18:02,448 --> 00:18:04,116
in the rooms upstairs
611
00:18:04,116 --> 00:18:05,951
we did the master bedroom and we did it
612
00:18:05,951 --> 00:18:06,685
come down the hallway
613
00:18:06,685 --> 00:18:08,520
my way, this way
614
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,622
with a guy with another contractor.
615
00:18:10,622 --> 00:18:13,225
And we got to the downstairs.
616
00:18:13,225 --> 00:18:13,725
He goes,
617
00:18:13,725 --> 00:18:14,927
you know what way
618
00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:15,828
he goes, I appreciate it,
619
00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:16,228
I know, I'm
620
00:18:16,228 --> 00:18:17,262
sure that's better than everything,
621
00:18:17,262 --> 00:18:17,963
but I'm going to do
622
00:18:17,963 --> 00:18:19,531
my own way downstairs,
623
00:18:19,531 --> 00:18:19,865
you know,
624
00:18:19,865 --> 00:18:20,966
just in the interest of time
625
00:18:20,966 --> 00:18:21,433
and everything.
626
00:18:21,433 --> 00:18:22,901
And I said, no, that's cool.
627
00:18:22,901 --> 00:18:24,069
Yeah, no problem with that.
628
00:18:25,137 --> 00:18:25,604
He called
629
00:18:25,604 --> 00:18:26,872
me a few days later,
630
00:18:26,872 --> 00:18:28,874
he goes, Holy smokes.
631
00:18:28,874 --> 00:18:29,208
The floor
632
00:18:29,208 --> 00:18:31,977
upstairs is night and day smoother?
633
00:18:31,977 --> 00:18:34,680
The first coat looks so much nicer.
634
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,448
He goes, I know it's long.
635
00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:37,916
We'll do it that way from now on.
636
00:18:37,916 --> 00:18:40,052
And that was doing it Doug's way.
637
00:18:40,052 --> 00:18:42,187
My way how? Their method.
638
00:18:42,187 --> 00:18:43,655
Yeah. My method. You.
639
00:18:43,655 --> 00:18:44,690
Oh, you're the.
640
00:18:44,690 --> 00:18:47,359
My brother died, Lieutenant Colonel.
641
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:47,826
Here's how the.
642
00:18:47,826 --> 00:18:48,660
Here's how things work
643
00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:50,596
with the Highlander floors.
644
00:18:50,596 --> 00:18:53,098
If they me,
645
00:18:53,098 --> 00:18:54,233
my brother John and my brother
646
00:18:54,233 --> 00:18:55,767
Doug, we're on a job
647
00:18:55,767 --> 00:18:57,302
and we're working together,
648
00:18:57,302 --> 00:18:59,171
and everybody's in a good mood.
649
00:18:59,171 --> 00:19:00,572
We're making progress.
650
00:19:00,572 --> 00:19:02,141
We're doing our final vacuum.
651
00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:04,977
We take the floor, we mix up the stain.
652
00:19:04,977 --> 00:19:06,078
We get the stain rags.
653
00:19:06,078 --> 00:19:06,879
We get in the buffer.
654
00:19:06,879 --> 00:19:08,013
And now it's time to stay on the floor.
655
00:19:08,013 --> 00:19:08,714
And everybody's happy.
656
00:19:10,582 --> 00:19:12,484
And then we start to stay in the floor.
657
00:19:12,484 --> 00:19:15,420
And my brother's left handed.
658
00:19:15,420 --> 00:19:17,256
So you know which way he wants to start
659
00:19:17,256 --> 00:19:18,457
when he's wiping on the stain?
660
00:19:18,457 --> 00:19:18,957
Yeah.
661
00:19:18,957 --> 00:19:20,559
On the left side of the room
662
00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:22,294
I start on right side.
663
00:19:22,294 --> 00:19:24,663
So it's not.
664
00:19:24,663 --> 00:19:25,564
It's backwards.
665
00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:27,332
If I do it his way, it's backwards. Him.
666
00:19:27,332 --> 00:19:28,634
If he does it my way.
667
00:19:28,634 --> 00:19:30,235
So I would automatically.
668
00:19:30,235 --> 00:19:31,770
So if I'm putting a stain on,
669
00:19:31,770 --> 00:19:32,771
I would just automatically
670
00:19:32,771 --> 00:19:33,639
go to the right side of the room.
671
00:19:33,639 --> 00:19:35,741
Star stain the floor.
672
00:19:35,741 --> 00:19:36,608
And he's.
673
00:19:36,608 --> 00:19:38,343
He ain't happy about it. Like real quick.
674
00:19:38,343 --> 00:19:39,178
He's not happy about it.
675
00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:40,379
You know what I mean?
676
00:19:40,379 --> 00:19:42,915
And if he, he starts doing the way first
677
00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:43,549
I'm not.
678
00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:45,017
And his argument is like,
679
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:45,918
I can't begin to tell you.
680
00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:48,620
There's
681
00:19:48,620 --> 00:19:49,354
nothing like brother
682
00:19:49,354 --> 00:19:51,356
fights on a hardwood floor job.
683
00:19:51,356 --> 00:19:52,958
No. Yeah, yeah.
684
00:19:52,958 --> 00:19:54,826
I mean, my brother and I, it was.
685
00:19:54,826 --> 00:19:56,195
I never tangled my guess
686
00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:58,297
from my youngest brother, Matty.
687
00:19:58,297 --> 00:19:59,965
He's ten years younger,
688
00:19:59,965 --> 00:20:02,968
but Chris was five years younger.
689
00:20:03,402 --> 00:20:06,405
And when they all started on the crew,
690
00:20:06,505 --> 00:20:08,307
not only was I the older brother,
691
00:20:08,307 --> 00:20:11,310
but I was the boss.
692
00:20:11,476 --> 00:20:12,744
By the time they got there,
693
00:20:12,744 --> 00:20:15,013
I was running the crews
694
00:20:15,013 --> 00:20:17,149
and
695
00:20:17,149 --> 00:20:18,584
but some of the,
696
00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:21,019
some of the best fights I ever got into
697
00:20:21,019 --> 00:20:22,287
was with Chris.
698
00:20:22,287 --> 00:20:24,790
Oh, yeah. Huge.
699
00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:27,793
You know, looking back, though,
700
00:20:28,627 --> 00:20:30,028
everybody and we had
701
00:20:30,028 --> 00:20:32,898
we had our fair share of, you know,
702
00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:33,599
disagreements.
703
00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:36,301
I'll put it kindly.
704
00:20:36,301 --> 00:20:38,303
But it was always out of the passion
705
00:20:38,303 --> 00:20:39,805
for doing the job, right.
706
00:20:39,805 --> 00:20:40,272
You know what I mean?
707
00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:42,608
It was never a shortcut.
708
00:20:42,608 --> 00:20:44,276
It was never anything like that.
709
00:20:44,276 --> 00:20:46,578
It was always you know,
710
00:20:46,578 --> 00:20:48,480
and we never argued about
711
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,781
who was working more than the other.
712
00:20:49,781 --> 00:20:50,882
Never.
713
00:20:50,882 --> 00:20:52,117
We never had that argument
714
00:20:52,117 --> 00:20:53,352
that, oh, I had to do this.
715
00:20:53,352 --> 00:20:54,987
And you, you edge and I, you know,
716
00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:56,288
I did the stairs and you did.
717
00:20:56,288 --> 00:20:59,424
And that never, never, never, never did.
718
00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:01,526
We have that fight.
719
00:21:01,526 --> 00:21:03,362
Any fight we had was about
720
00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:06,498
the which is the best way to do the job.
721
00:21:06,498 --> 00:21:08,433
The best. You know what I mean?
722
00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:11,436
So I didn't appreciate that at the time.
723
00:21:11,803 --> 00:21:14,473
But I sure as hell appreciate that now.
724
00:21:14,473 --> 00:21:15,841
I was a jerk.
725
00:21:15,841 --> 00:21:18,543
I I'll admit it was a jerk.
726
00:21:18,543 --> 00:21:20,112
The fights that I had, all the fights
727
00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:23,115
I had with my brother were because of me
728
00:21:23,215 --> 00:21:25,584
always wanting him to be better
729
00:21:25,584 --> 00:21:26,485
than everybody,
730
00:21:26,485 --> 00:21:27,819
expecting him to do
731
00:21:27,819 --> 00:21:30,055
more than everybody on the crew.
732
00:21:30,055 --> 00:21:32,357
And I had that mindset of like, look,
733
00:21:32,357 --> 00:21:33,258
you're a Johnson.
734
00:21:33,258 --> 00:21:34,793
You have to do more than the other
735
00:21:34,793 --> 00:21:37,729
guys or it's going to be misery.
736
00:21:37,729 --> 00:21:39,965
I had to you had to.
737
00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:40,332
You know,
738
00:21:40,332 --> 00:21:41,833
we can't seem like daddy's
739
00:21:41,833 --> 00:21:43,335
little boys out here.
740
00:21:43,335 --> 00:21:44,369
And, you know,
741
00:21:44,369 --> 00:21:47,005
we have to outwork everybody. And,
742
00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:50,776
I was really hard on him on that.
743
00:21:50,776 --> 00:21:52,411
And sometimes, you know,
744
00:21:52,411 --> 00:21:54,713
sometimes I think I took it too far.
745
00:21:54,713 --> 00:21:57,549
Well, now that you say that.
746
00:21:57,549 --> 00:22:00,552
Well, there was that too.
747
00:22:01,753 --> 00:22:04,356
Yeah, there was that.
748
00:22:04,356 --> 00:22:05,157
Absolutely.
749
00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:05,857
I mean, you know,
750
00:22:05,857 --> 00:22:08,860
if you're a perfectionist,
751
00:22:09,261 --> 00:22:09,795
not even
752
00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:11,096
you can live up to your standards
753
00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:12,964
sometimes, you know what I mean? Right?
754
00:22:12,964 --> 00:22:14,333
So asking other people
755
00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:15,667
to live up to those same standards.
756
00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:16,768
And now that I say it
757
00:22:16,768 --> 00:22:17,102
all the time,
758
00:22:17,102 --> 00:22:18,870
they're both better than I am.
759
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:20,072
They're both very good,
760
00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:21,606
very sensational floor guys.
761
00:22:21,606 --> 00:22:24,609
So, in the end, who knows?
762
00:22:25,243 --> 00:22:28,246
But, but that was your staying method.
763
00:22:28,447 --> 00:22:30,415
That was it? Yeah. I mean, that's.
764
00:22:30,415 --> 00:22:30,816
Yes.
765
00:22:30,816 --> 00:22:31,917
And I swear to you,
766
00:22:31,917 --> 00:22:34,019
I've never seen a floor look any better.
767
00:22:34,019 --> 00:22:34,653
Or stain.
768
00:22:34,653 --> 00:22:36,088
I'm going to try it next week.
769
00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:37,723
I'm going down a little early to try,
770
00:22:37,723 --> 00:22:38,390
and I
771
00:22:39,458 --> 00:22:41,159
do some new things at the RTC
772
00:22:41,159 --> 00:22:42,894
for the class comes in, so I want to.
773
00:22:42,894 --> 00:22:44,096
I'm going to try that in an area,
774
00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:45,430
see what it looks like.
775
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:47,666
Do you remember Frank Krupa?
776
00:22:47,666 --> 00:22:49,568
I think his name is William the buffet,
777
00:22:49,568 --> 00:22:51,636
and he was with, from Michigan.
778
00:22:51,636 --> 00:22:54,639
Yeah, I, yes, yes, yep.
779
00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:58,143
We were in an art class, and,
780
00:22:58,143 --> 00:22:59,344
I was shy at the time.
781
00:22:59,344 --> 00:23:01,012
I wasn't an instructor, and I was.
782
00:23:01,012 --> 00:23:02,547
I was just another guy in the panel
783
00:23:02,547 --> 00:23:04,950
or whatever, and I like, hey, I got this.
784
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:06,485
I got this thing I do
785
00:23:06,485 --> 00:23:09,488
and, you know, like.
786
00:23:09,621 --> 00:23:10,622
I don't know if he's going to like it
787
00:23:10,622 --> 00:23:11,957
or not. Unaccepted.
788
00:23:11,957 --> 00:23:12,824
Or maybe you go,
789
00:23:12,824 --> 00:23:15,427
that's not a guideline or whatever,
790
00:23:15,427 --> 00:23:16,294
but I, I
791
00:23:16,294 --> 00:23:17,562
and he kind of, like, didn't catch it
792
00:23:17,562 --> 00:23:19,131
the first time that I pull him aside.
793
00:23:19,131 --> 00:23:19,931
Later, I go, hey, man,
794
00:23:19,931 --> 00:23:21,833
I get this thing I do,
795
00:23:21,833 --> 00:23:22,901
with a, with a maroon pad,
796
00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:24,035
and I'm saying the floor.
797
00:23:24,035 --> 00:23:26,071
He goes, hey, I want to see it.
798
00:23:26,071 --> 00:23:26,805
No kidding.
799
00:23:26,805 --> 00:23:28,173
Oh, awesome. Yeah.
800
00:23:28,173 --> 00:23:30,308
And when I did it, yes, I like that.
801
00:23:30,308 --> 00:23:31,777
I like that, you know, that
802
00:23:31,777 --> 00:23:33,311
that's that's a wow.
803
00:23:33,311 --> 00:23:34,413
And that's coming from who
804
00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:36,681
I, someone I respect beyond words.
805
00:23:36,681 --> 00:23:37,649
So. Yeah.
806
00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:39,418
Yeah.
807
00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:44,156
When, when we were at basic coatings and,
808
00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:47,492
we built our training center there
809
00:23:47,492 --> 00:23:50,195
and we had our initial school,
810
00:23:50,195 --> 00:23:53,198
I asked Frank to come in and be the lead
811
00:23:53,365 --> 00:23:54,366
for that, like,
812
00:23:54,366 --> 00:23:56,701
he came in, represent the USA.
813
00:23:56,701 --> 00:23:58,170
And so, yeah.
814
00:23:58,170 --> 00:24:00,672
Frank, Mike was a great guy.
815
00:24:00,672 --> 00:24:02,507
Good stories, good flow, great floor.
816
00:24:02,507 --> 00:24:04,543
Man. We phenomenal floor.
817
00:24:04,543 --> 00:24:05,744
Let me tell you it. Let me tell you.
818
00:24:05,744 --> 00:24:08,747
But I'll give you one frank story.
819
00:24:09,614 --> 00:24:11,283
We always had a is either
820
00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:14,286
intermediate class or an expert class.
821
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:16,488
It must have been an intermediate class.
822
00:24:16,488 --> 00:24:17,823
And, it was insulation.
823
00:24:17,823 --> 00:24:18,323
We were, you know,
824
00:24:18,323 --> 00:24:19,691
installing floors, whatever.
825
00:24:19,691 --> 00:24:21,092
And then we ran it out from the man down,
826
00:24:21,092 --> 00:24:22,994
and he was late getting there.
827
00:24:22,994 --> 00:24:24,596
Like he meets day one
828
00:24:24,596 --> 00:24:26,765
and he's there on day two. And,
829
00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:29,734
I think the class was in Saint Louis.
830
00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:31,703
And, we get there,
831
00:24:31,703 --> 00:24:32,370
and now it's time
832
00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:33,338
to put the medallion in.
833
00:24:33,338 --> 00:24:34,372
So I routed out,
834
00:24:34,372 --> 00:24:36,007
you know, junk medallion.
835
00:24:36,007 --> 00:24:38,443
And I said to him, I said, hey,
836
00:24:38,443 --> 00:24:39,744
do you want me not to glue this down?
837
00:24:39,744 --> 00:24:40,545
I just take it down.
838
00:24:40,545 --> 00:24:41,146
Everything's that way.
839
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:42,180
We don't burn the medallion.
840
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:42,981
Use it later.
841
00:24:42,981 --> 00:24:43,515
He goes, hey,
842
00:24:43,515 --> 00:24:44,950
I didn't get on a plane
843
00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:46,518
and fly all the way down here
844
00:24:46,518 --> 00:24:48,153
to do something half assed.
845
00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:49,921
I went, no kidding.
846
00:24:49,921 --> 00:24:51,890
I like this game. Yeah.
847
00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:54,059
So I mean, he was a that.
848
00:24:54,059 --> 00:24:54,459
That's all.
849
00:24:54,459 --> 00:24:55,694
You know,
850
00:24:55,694 --> 00:24:58,697
you are going to love this Krupa story.
851
00:24:59,664 --> 00:25:02,567
So because it was a new school
852
00:25:02,567 --> 00:25:03,835
we had put the floors in
853
00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:04,836
that was part of the
854
00:25:04,836 --> 00:25:05,770
front part of the school.
855
00:25:05,770 --> 00:25:08,373
Two days install, two days sanding.
856
00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:11,610
So we're doing different rooms.
857
00:25:11,610 --> 00:25:14,112
And at one point we had,
858
00:25:14,112 --> 00:25:17,115
you know, router out a groove and a board
859
00:25:17,115 --> 00:25:18,683
do the slip tongue
860
00:25:18,683 --> 00:25:21,686
and you know that, you know the deal.
861
00:25:22,587 --> 00:25:23,989
And Frank starts,
862
00:25:23,989 --> 00:25:26,992
he's get he gets everybody around
863
00:25:27,025 --> 00:25:29,561
and he's holding the slip tongue
864
00:25:29,561 --> 00:25:31,830
and he starts talking.
865
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:32,931
And then
866
00:25:32,931 --> 00:25:33,632
you can see that
867
00:25:33,632 --> 00:25:35,500
you're starting to get pissed.
868
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,802
Him and he's getting mad
869
00:25:37,802 --> 00:25:40,805
because some guys don't take the time
870
00:25:41,006 --> 00:25:43,208
to router in and properly
871
00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:44,943
put in a slip tongue
872
00:25:44,943 --> 00:25:46,211
and join the two boards.
873
00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:46,444
He goes,
874
00:25:46,444 --> 00:25:49,447
some guys will just throw that board down
875
00:25:49,581 --> 00:25:53,018
and he actually he just slams
876
00:25:53,018 --> 00:25:56,187
the board down furious, right?
877
00:25:57,222 --> 00:25:59,558
That people will just put some glue there
878
00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:00,659
or epoxy
879
00:26:00,659 --> 00:26:02,460
and think that that's good enough.
880
00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:03,428
Well,
881
00:26:03,428 --> 00:26:04,195
at one point
882
00:26:04,195 --> 00:26:05,830
he's screaming at the class
883
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:07,732
like they had all done it, you know.
884
00:26:07,732 --> 00:26:09,100
Yeah. Yeah.
885
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:09,467
Right.
886
00:26:09,467 --> 00:26:12,304
And it's just you know Frank. Right.
887
00:26:12,304 --> 00:26:14,339
He's just very passionate.
888
00:26:14,339 --> 00:26:15,407
But I'll tell you what,
889
00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:16,007
I bet
890
00:26:16,007 --> 00:26:17,609
I can guarantee you
891
00:26:17,609 --> 00:26:18,810
there was not one person
892
00:26:18,810 --> 00:26:19,978
who was at that school
893
00:26:19,978 --> 00:26:20,879
who would never,
894
00:26:20,879 --> 00:26:22,781
not ever use a slip tongue
895
00:26:22,781 --> 00:26:25,684
for the rest of their life after
896
00:26:25,684 --> 00:26:26,284
because, like,
897
00:26:26,284 --> 00:26:27,819
actually when he got done,
898
00:26:27,819 --> 00:26:28,720
I go, you okay?
899
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,422
You know, I kind of walked out. Yeah.
900
00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:31,823
Everything all right? You.
901
00:26:31,823 --> 00:26:32,357
He goes, you know,
902
00:26:32,357 --> 00:26:33,091
they stamp people
903
00:26:33,091 --> 00:26:34,726
sometimes they just think that I.
904
00:26:34,726 --> 00:26:35,560
Yeah. Okay.
905
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,161
Okay.
906
00:26:36,161 --> 00:26:37,896
It wasn't us. Break easy.
907
00:26:37,896 --> 00:26:39,264
We didn't do it. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
908
00:26:40,231 --> 00:26:42,000
But, that guy had some.
909
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,501
He had pure passion.
910
00:26:43,501 --> 00:26:45,670
Math, pure passion for it.
911
00:26:45,670 --> 00:26:47,372
Right.
912
00:26:47,372 --> 00:26:47,906
All right.
913
00:26:47,906 --> 00:26:50,875
So I think, that really
914
00:26:50,875 --> 00:26:52,744
all I want to talk about this thing is,
915
00:26:52,744 --> 00:26:54,980
I think
916
00:26:54,980 --> 00:26:57,983
if you look at the look at the price,
917
00:26:58,116 --> 00:26:59,951
look at the coverage
918
00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:00,652
per square foot
919
00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:01,653
that you're getting out of that,
920
00:27:01,653 --> 00:27:03,588
look how far it goes,
921
00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:05,957
and look at ease of use.
922
00:27:05,957 --> 00:27:08,193
If you haven't got engaged with it,
923
00:27:08,193 --> 00:27:10,028
try it on a job.
924
00:27:10,028 --> 00:27:11,496
See what you think about it.
925
00:27:11,496 --> 00:27:12,831
Like I said, you can always do anything
926
00:27:12,831 --> 00:27:13,832
at one of our training centers
927
00:27:13,832 --> 00:27:14,532
across the country.
928
00:27:14,532 --> 00:27:16,434
You got a bunch of them.
929
00:27:16,434 --> 00:27:18,837
You know, another thing to like
930
00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:21,272
I was talking about with that maple
931
00:27:21,272 --> 00:27:21,873
and I.
932
00:27:21,873 --> 00:27:22,073
Yeah,
933
00:27:22,073 --> 00:27:22,707
I really try
934
00:27:22,707 --> 00:27:25,710
to show this at our schools where
935
00:27:25,844 --> 00:27:27,812
there's just so much about color now.
936
00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:29,014
You know, there's just so many
937
00:27:29,014 --> 00:27:30,315
things out there about color.
938
00:27:31,449 --> 00:27:34,452
Our complete line of oil based
939
00:27:35,453 --> 00:27:38,256
court lines, game line paint,
940
00:27:38,256 --> 00:27:39,357
okay, that we use in
941
00:27:39,357 --> 00:27:41,459
sport is all intermixed
942
00:27:41,459 --> 00:27:43,328
well with our stain.
943
00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:46,197
So not only can you blend the stains,
944
00:27:46,197 --> 00:27:48,366
but you can also blend the paint
945
00:27:48,366 --> 00:27:50,201
with the natural stain.
946
00:27:50,201 --> 00:27:52,404
We just can take it out a whole new door
947
00:27:52,404 --> 00:27:54,973
compared to anybody else out there.
948
00:27:54,973 --> 00:27:55,874
But the
949
00:27:55,874 --> 00:27:58,810
the thing is, is it's all compatible.
950
00:27:58,810 --> 00:28:01,813
It's all made specifically for flooring.
951
00:28:01,913 --> 00:28:02,247
You know,
952
00:28:02,247 --> 00:28:04,516
you're not going to find it in furniture
953
00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:06,451
and this and that or the big box stores
954
00:28:06,451 --> 00:28:07,385
and everything like that.
955
00:28:07,385 --> 00:28:10,388
So I think that's something that
956
00:28:10,388 --> 00:28:11,423
and it's great too,
957
00:28:11,423 --> 00:28:13,591
because are you going to do a blue floor
958
00:28:13,591 --> 00:28:14,359
every day?
959
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,695
No, of course not.
960
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:17,862
But boy, when you're out there
961
00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:18,963
doing that estimate
962
00:28:18,963 --> 00:28:21,099
and you can start offering things
963
00:28:21,099 --> 00:28:23,568
that nobody else is offering,
964
00:28:23,568 --> 00:28:23,768
you know,
965
00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:26,071
this goes back to our estimating
966
00:28:26,071 --> 00:28:28,306
show that we did right.
967
00:28:28,306 --> 00:28:29,908
When you can start offering things
968
00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:31,743
like that, people don't ask
969
00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:33,945
why you're the higher price guy. Yeah,
970
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:35,880
no.
971
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,883
But a few years back Bom
972
00:28:39,417 --> 00:28:41,286
Bom was going to do a home show
973
00:28:41,286 --> 00:28:41,986
almost in the home
974
00:28:41,986 --> 00:28:43,455
show him and his company
975
00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:44,823
and he goes, hey, you want to work?
976
00:28:44,823 --> 00:28:45,924
I go, yeah, I'd love to.
977
00:28:45,924 --> 00:28:48,560
I'd love doing home shows, you know?
978
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:48,960
So he goes,
979
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,028
what do you think we should do?
980
00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:51,062
You know, what can we do?
981
00:28:51,062 --> 00:28:54,032
Because when we buy ten booth,
982
00:28:54,532 --> 00:28:56,901
you know, we can't really do demos.
983
00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:59,370
We can't sand a floor or anything.
984
00:28:59,370 --> 00:29:02,173
But he came up with he cut out
985
00:29:02,173 --> 00:29:05,176
squares about this big
986
00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:06,678
right little three by 3
987
00:29:06,678 --> 00:29:08,413
or 4 by four squares.
988
00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:10,315
Yeah.
989
00:29:10,315 --> 00:29:11,883
Oak, white oak,
990
00:29:11,883 --> 00:29:14,886
red oak, ash,
991
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:18,189
any at every stain and paint that we had.
992
00:29:18,189 --> 00:29:20,024
And people were coming over
993
00:29:20,024 --> 00:29:21,693
and making their own stain colors.
994
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,599
Just hanging out, having fun.
995
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,134
We're writing down on the back
996
00:29:29,134 --> 00:29:29,934
what it was,
997
00:29:29,934 --> 00:29:32,170
what their ratios were and everything.
998
00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:33,571
And like halfway
999
00:29:33,571 --> 00:29:35,540
through the second day of the show,
1000
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:36,441
Paulie comes back.
1001
00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:37,342
She goes,
1002
00:29:37,342 --> 00:29:37,642
you wouldn't
1003
00:29:37,642 --> 00:29:38,643
believe how many people
1004
00:29:38,643 --> 00:29:39,577
I see walking around
1005
00:29:39,577 --> 00:29:41,079
with their little squares,
1006
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:43,348
showing everybody what they're doing.
1007
00:29:43,348 --> 00:29:44,215
They're custom cut.
1008
00:29:44,215 --> 00:29:45,817
I invented this color.
1009
00:29:45,817 --> 00:29:46,918
People were excited.
1010
00:29:46,918 --> 00:29:47,819
People were excited
1011
00:29:47,819 --> 00:29:49,187
about making their own color.
1012
00:29:49,187 --> 00:29:50,021
That's my color.
1013
00:29:50,021 --> 00:29:51,389
Nobody else has that.
1014
00:29:51,389 --> 00:29:53,124
It's a great idea.
1015
00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:54,125
That one work good.
1016
00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:57,128
Yeah, that one worked really good.
1017
00:29:57,295 --> 00:30:00,765
Last thing, I'll see on this is, one is,
1018
00:30:01,833 --> 00:30:03,301
is there anything worse not being able
1019
00:30:03,301 --> 00:30:06,271
to match your own stain color?
1020
00:30:07,172 --> 00:30:09,207
That's pretty embarrassing.
1021
00:30:09,207 --> 00:30:10,742
So what? I told you, I couldn't.
1022
00:30:10,742 --> 00:30:12,210
I couldn't remember what that stain was
1023
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:13,444
that I mixed up for that guy.
1024
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,081
You know, I was a
1025
00:30:17,081 --> 00:30:17,982
great idea to
1026
00:30:17,982 --> 00:30:19,684
to make to make notes,
1027
00:30:19,684 --> 00:30:20,018
put it
1028
00:30:20,018 --> 00:30:20,752
the notes somewhere
1029
00:30:20,752 --> 00:30:22,253
in exactly what you did.
1030
00:30:22,253 --> 00:30:25,156
And by the way, my notes are different
1031
00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:25,924
than sometimes
1032
00:30:25,924 --> 00:30:27,192
than what I put on the contract
1033
00:30:27,192 --> 00:30:29,027
for the owner.
1034
00:30:29,027 --> 00:30:30,195
You know what I mean?
1035
00:30:30,195 --> 00:30:31,396
Because they might.
1036
00:30:31,396 --> 00:30:31,896
Yeah.
1037
00:30:31,896 --> 00:30:33,631
I've got just like the homeowner
1038
00:30:33,631 --> 00:30:36,201
might say, I want antique.
1039
00:30:36,201 --> 00:30:39,204
And, I look at him, I go,
1040
00:30:39,204 --> 00:30:41,172
he doesn't really want to antique.
1041
00:30:41,172 --> 00:30:42,841
You want
1042
00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:45,443
he wants antique with a splash of
1043
00:30:45,443 --> 00:30:47,679
of spice or a splash of red,
1044
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:48,246
you know what I mean?
1045
00:30:48,246 --> 00:30:51,683
I just, I mean, just intuitively, I know.
1046
00:30:52,217 --> 00:30:53,818
So my notes are more important to me
1047
00:30:53,818 --> 00:30:56,821
than what I may say to somebody else.
1048
00:30:57,589 --> 00:31:00,658
So I keep my notes on, on on what the job
1049
00:31:00,825 --> 00:31:01,926
with job is so.
1050
00:31:03,061 --> 00:31:04,262
Yeah,
1051
00:31:04,262 --> 00:31:06,331
I want to, give a shout out to,
1052
00:31:06,331 --> 00:31:08,132
Jason Carter with, Carter.
1053
00:31:08,132 --> 00:31:09,834
Quality floors,
1054
00:31:09,834 --> 00:31:11,102
particle Carter
1055
00:31:11,102 --> 00:31:13,037
quality flooring up in Michigan
1056
00:31:13,037 --> 00:31:13,805
is his birthday
1057
00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:15,740
at the time we're taping this.
1058
00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:17,442
And, classic.
1059
00:31:17,442 --> 00:31:20,144
I think the world of him does it.
1060
00:31:20,144 --> 00:31:22,380
There's not a great craftsman.
1061
00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:24,682
I just had,
1062
00:31:24,682 --> 00:31:25,950
two of his guys from Carter
1063
00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:27,919
Quality in December.
1064
00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:29,354
We did a school up in Michigan.
1065
00:31:29,354 --> 00:31:30,989
He sent two of his boys over.
1066
00:31:30,989 --> 00:31:32,357
Great guys.
1067
00:31:32,357 --> 00:31:34,192
Yeah, good mechanics.
1068
00:31:34,192 --> 00:31:36,361
Yeah. Starts at the top. Yeah.
1069
00:31:36,361 --> 00:31:36,995
So. Okay.
1070
00:31:36,995 --> 00:31:38,863
All right, Rob appreciate it.
1071
00:31:38,863 --> 00:31:39,664
Thank you everybody
1072
00:31:39,664 --> 00:31:40,298
I appreciate your
1073
00:31:40,298 --> 00:31:42,166
give your listenership very much.
1074
00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:44,135
I mean we say that every time
1075
00:31:44,135 --> 00:31:45,336
because we mean it.
1076
00:31:45,336 --> 00:31:46,971
And
1077
00:31:46,971 --> 00:31:48,806
appreciate you listen to the show.
1078
00:31:48,806 --> 00:31:51,342
Hey listen we're going to be down the NWA
1079
00:31:51,342 --> 00:31:53,244
has coming up I believe it's,
1080
00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:56,347
April 7th
1081
00:31:56,347 --> 00:31:58,950
14th, the 12th through the 14th.
1082
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:59,484
We'd be terrible
1083
00:31:59,484 --> 00:32:00,318
if they were listening to me.
1084
00:32:00,318 --> 00:32:03,321
That was actually like a week later.
1085
00:32:03,388 --> 00:32:04,155
They do hear,
1086
00:32:04,155 --> 00:32:05,423
look up, see what the dates are.
1087
00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:07,725
I think it's the 12th through the 14th.
1088
00:32:07,725 --> 00:32:08,626
But anyway.
1089
00:32:08,626 --> 00:32:11,562
Anyhow, I would love to see,
1090
00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:12,964
we had a great time last year down there.
1091
00:32:12,964 --> 00:32:14,332
It's going to be in Tampa this year.
1092
00:32:14,332 --> 00:32:16,200
We don't get anything out of you guys
1093
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,635
coming down. We don't.
1094
00:32:17,635 --> 00:32:18,836
We're not in cahoots
1095
00:32:18,836 --> 00:32:19,938
with the NWA or anything,
1096
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:21,639
but I support it.
1097
00:32:21,639 --> 00:32:23,341
No, Rob does,
1098
00:32:23,341 --> 00:32:24,909
we love to see the guys down there.
1099
00:32:24,909 --> 00:32:25,910
You come down to the show,
1100
00:32:25,910 --> 00:32:27,278
I think it's going to be a great show.
1101
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:29,580
Guys are getting out more this year, and,
1102
00:32:29,580 --> 00:32:31,182
I think it'll be a lot of fun.
1103
00:32:31,182 --> 00:32:32,383
And so if you do come by,
1104
00:32:32,383 --> 00:32:33,484
we'd love to have you come
1105
00:32:33,484 --> 00:32:34,953
by the booth and say, hey,
1106
00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:36,521
and I can shake your hand.
1107
00:32:36,521 --> 00:32:37,956
So other than that,
1108
00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:40,391
that's another episode of
1109
00:32:40,391 --> 00:32:41,826
On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
1110
00:32:41,826 --> 00:32:43,962
Please stay tuned for another episode.
1111
00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:44,562
Okay.