On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Retail Business with Guest Ken Petersen

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob are joined by Ken Petersen with Woody's Hardwood Flooring to discuss starting a retail floor business after being a contractor. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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Hello and welcome to

 

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another episode of On the Floor

 

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with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne Highlander.

 

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National Sales manager

 

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for Bona Adhesives.

 

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And I'm Rob Johnson from Bona Training.

 

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How are we doing, Rob?

 

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Pretty good, but how are you doing?

 

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I'm doing fantastic.

 

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I think you need to. Clear your throat.

 

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Me? Yeah.

 

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Give yourself a good throat. Clear?

 

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Or is there

 

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something wrong with my microphone?

 

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It must be your microphone or.

 

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Headphones or.

 

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Whatever.

 

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So today we have a special guest.

 

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And I think this is a

 

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this is

 

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an interesting topic for our

 

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for our audience

 

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is a about retail stores

 

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and starting a retail store

 

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and coming from being a contractor

 

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and moving towards

 

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being a retail store owner.

 

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Our special guest today is Ken Peterson.

 

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He's with Woolies Hardwood Floors Ltd..

 

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And Ken, I know you've been,

 

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I think,

 

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since 1994 in

 

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in Calgary, British Columbia, in

 

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that area. Yeah. We've had

 

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94 is when we

 

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we opened

 

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our first retail in Calgary,

 

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but I started wood floors in 86

 

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in, in the East Coast

 

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where we were raised, where I was raised.

 

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So I started my first retail store in

 

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by remote.

 

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I would say 90, 91 wasn't long after

 

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we got going contracting.

 

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So we yeah,

 

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we started our first retail there,

 

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then we sold out

 

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and then moved to the west Coast.

 

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Gotcha.

 

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So you've actually been styling

 

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since the late eighties, though, right?

 

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8686 is my first floor

 

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that we've installed. Yeah.

 

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A lot of a lot of experience there.

 

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And I want to give Wood Floor

 

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Business magazine

 

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credit for four for this.

 

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You wrote an article in that magazine

 

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and I read

 

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when I read it, it resonated with me

 

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so quickly.

 

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Just one thing that you said

 

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in that article, I thought.

 

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Yeah, I thought the same thing

 

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and something to the effect of that.

 

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If you're a contractor

 

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and you're going into

 

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owning a retail store,

 

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the best thing that can happen to you

 

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is that you hurt your back.

 

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So you can't do floors anymore.

 

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And I used to say when I was doing floors

 

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and I

 

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wanted to grow and get bigger

 

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and perhaps do a retail store, is that

 

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I think I'd be better off

 

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if my knees hurt so bad

 

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I couldn't do floors anymore.

 

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It wasn't even an option.

 

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Yeah. Yeah, you're right there.

 

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Yeah, no, it is.

 

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It's. It's the truth. It's a

 

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it.

 

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I don't

 

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know what it is,

 

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but if every, every, every flooring

 

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contractor, every guy that's

 

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swung a hammer or a sand in the floor,

 

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seems like they always

 

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want to have their own retail outlet.

 

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They want to sell their own floor

 

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and they want to do their own thing.

 

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And, hey, the hat's off to them.

 

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That's that's how we all grow

 

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and get bigger and do things.

 

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But it's a it's one business, this wood

 

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flooring business.

 

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There's one thing that

 

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it's a tough grind and you got

 

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you better know what you're doing

 

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when you when you change careers.

 

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So. Yeah.

 

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So in that article

 

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as well as the other meetings we've had

 

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I always say tell guys blessing.

 

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Best thing you can do is hurt your back.

 

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I know a guy that started a retail outlet

 

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and broke his Achilles tendon right.

 

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Right off the bat. So easy start.

 

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Listen, you know, I devastated.

 

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I thought that was the end of my retail.

 

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I thought

 

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what he says

 

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was the best thing that ever happened

 

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because he's said to rely on my guys.

 

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I learned to rely on my guys

 

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to do everything.

 

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And then I,

 

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I learned that

 

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I had to push pencil

 

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and I had to organize.

 

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And it taught me that sitting in a desk

 

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with a broken Achilles

 

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tendon is taught me how to organize.

 

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And he says that was the saving

 

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grace for my following. Start

 

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that.

 

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Learn to go back out with your tools and

 

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and work is very strong

 

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because you know it's.

 

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Yeah. Go ahead.

 

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I tell you, the problem is

 

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the reason you want to be in into retail

 

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is because you're good at what you do.

 

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You're good at installing,

 

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good at finishing. And

 

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and when you walk in, you

 

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and you'll get a customer

 

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come in the door

 

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and you look at the plans

 

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and you look at the job and you say,

 

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That's a good job.

 

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I want it. I'm going to get that job.

 

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And that customer just walked

 

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through three boring stores

 

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and you're the fourth one

 

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and you're the newest guy on the block.

 

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So there's only one way

 

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you're going to get that job

 

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out of a referral or you be the cheapest.

 

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So the first thing the installer says is,

 

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Man, I'll install it myself,

 

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I'll, I'll install it for myself

 

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and I'll knock a little bit of money

 

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off too and, and I'll get this job

 

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and, and now all of a sudden

 

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you're devastated

 

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because your flooring store is suffering,

 

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your rent is still there,

 

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your overhead is still there.

 

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You're out installing a floor that

 

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could it

 

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could be going

 

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sideways halfway through the job,

 

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but you got to stay there.

 

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Meanwhile, the phone is ringing.

 

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It's a downward spiral from there.

 

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We have seen it so many times.

 

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And that's why,

 

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you know,

 

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I spent a lot of coffee shop

 

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talks with guys and telling them,

 

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go for it, do it.

 

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But I'll tell you this,

 

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change your career.

 

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You are a changed career.

 

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You're not a flooring installer anymore.

 

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Yeah, you know,

 

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I can tell you,

 

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we manufacture here and sell

 

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to someone, some retail outlets.

 

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We don't want to categorize everybody.

 

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But, you know,

 

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I got a guy that's calling me right now

 

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from from Florida.

 

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He wants to open to flooring starts.

 

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So that's nice.

 

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I said, what's your history?

 

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You know, I'm an installer.

 

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I know my stuff.

 

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I've been installed for 25 years.

 

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I said, what?

 

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I'm not interested is what I said.

 

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I'm not interested

 

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in selling your product.

 

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Why is that?

 

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I know you have a good product.

 

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I want to know

 

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your success rate

 

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is so low

 

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that I don't want to sell your product

 

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because I don't want to get stuck

 

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and I want to get stung.

 

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And I says,

 

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You are still telling me

 

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about your installs

 

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and how you installed the biggest star

 

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and how he installed the nicest.

 

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That's gone. You are businessman.

 

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I could tell

 

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you are most successful

 

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foreign companies

 

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that we sell flowers to our guys, that

 

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they're businessmen.

 

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They're they

 

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they don't really know

 

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everything about install.

 

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They really don't know everything

 

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about finishing.

 

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But they're a businessman and that's

 

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that that's a tough thing for a tradesman

 

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to become a businessman,

 

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but it can be done.

 

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I did it.

 

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I fell on my face a few times,

 

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but I did it. And lots have.

 

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But it's it's a tough goal.

 

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And that's one thing I've

 

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come to realize, too,

 

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when I when I moved to my role

 

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as a sales rep

 

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and now sales manager, that

 

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it's been surprising to me

 

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that how many successful retail

 

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store owners that I know

 

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have never done floor in their life.

 

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They're business people.

 

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Yeah.

 

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So and you're speaking.

 

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Wow the reason why I like you on here

 

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because you're speaking from experience.

 

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I mean, you came from

 

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both sides of the world.

 

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So how do you change that mentality?

 

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Because you have to

 

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you've got to change your way

 

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of thinking altogether. Right.

 

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Still, here's an analogy

 

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that I come up with a while ago,

 

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because, you know,

 

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when we were running, cruising,

 

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when we had Woodies fine in Calgary,

 

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we had we're running 37 crews.

 

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We're doing an average of 9 to 12 houses

 

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a day.

 

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We're going through 80,000 square

 

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feet of wood a month.

 

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So we were moving, we moved volume.

 

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We did 276 builders.

 

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We controlled about 23% of the hardwood

 

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floors are going through that city

 

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and the city is over a million people.

 

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So we we moved a lot of product.

 

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We a lot of guys come through our doors

 

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and work for us.

 

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So here's something that

 

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I've told them all

 

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I get guys come to me

 

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as just be honest with me.

 

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You want to go on your own,

 

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come to me, talk to me.

 

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I'll tell you the pros and cons.

 

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So here's something that I tell the guys.

 

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I don't know

 

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if they listen or not,

 

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but I do know it works.

 

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And it

 

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not only works for the wood for business,

 

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but it works in all service business.

 

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If you're an

 

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installer or a

 

283

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finisher, let's say

 

284

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a sanding and finishing guy.

 

285

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So you're sending a finishing guy

 

286

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and you're working hard with your helper

 

287

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and you've got

 

288

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you've got a good reputation and

 

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works piling up.

 

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And if you do a good work,

 

291

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you will get you will get busier.

 

292

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That's just this business.

 

293

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So the first thing that comes to

 

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your mind is

 

295

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I need another crew,

 

296

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I need to get another crew going.

 

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So you lay out the money for the van

 

298

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and the tools and everything.

 

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So now

 

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just say

 

301

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when you were working with your helper,

 

302

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you were getting $100 a day.

 

303

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That's what you're making, $100 a day

 

304

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just for round numbers.

 

305

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Now, you brought on a second crew,

 

306

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but now you can only make 75 bucks a day

 

307

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because you're managing that second crew

 

308

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and that second crew.

 

309

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You got to pay them guys.

 

310

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So you're only making a 25%

 

311

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or $25 margin off them guys.

 

312

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So that crew's making it 25 bucks a day

 

313

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because you're working your own crew,

 

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you're making 75 bucks a day now.

 

315

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So you're making the same amount of money

 

316

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you're making when, when,

 

317

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when you had you worked by yourself.

 

318

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So work keeps piling up.

 

319

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You get busier.

 

320

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I got to get another crew.

 

321

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So you bring this third crew on.

 

322

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Now you have three crews yourself.

 

323

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The other two crews,

 

324

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they're each making you 25 bucks a day.

 

325

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You're managing three crews now,

 

326

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estimating, collecting, don't touch ups.

 

327

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It goes on and on.

 

328

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So you're only making 50 bucks a day

 

329

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because half your time is managing

 

330

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the other two crews.

 

331

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So you're still only

 

332

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making 100 bucks a day.

 

333

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So that happens for the third crew.

 

334

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The fourth crew is

 

335

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now all of a sudden you've got

 

336

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you've got four crews and yourself.

 

337

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So you have five crews,

 

338

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but you can't work anymore.

 

339

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You got four crew.

 

340

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Your day is is run ragged

 

341

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because you have four crews

 

342

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to take care of your estimating.

 

343

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You're collecting money,

 

344

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you're doing

 

345

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touch ups, you're fixing this, you're

 

346

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touching up that, you're fixing a Hummel,

 

347

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you're fixing a edger, you're

 

348

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running around, right?

 

349

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So you're only making a hundred

 

350

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bucks a day

 

351

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because each crew is

 

352

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giving you a 25 bucks a day.

 

353

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But you can't your production is done.

 

354

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With a lot more

 

355

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with a lot more liability, too,

 

356

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I should say.

 

357

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Four times

 

358

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the receivables, four times

 

359

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the payables, four times the headaches.

 

360

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So usually about this time,

 

361

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most contractors say, I'm done,

 

362

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I'm done, I can't do this anymore.

 

363

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And they do one or two things.

 

364

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They scale back

 

365

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to themselves

 

366

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or they go broke.

 

367

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And when they go broke, all the local

 

368

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wholesalers and everybody

 

369

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that's supported them

 

370

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feels the pinch, too.

 

371

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So that's that's the biggest thing

 

372

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that you guys got to be careful of.

 

373

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Now, how do you get past that?

 

374

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Well, it can be done

 

375

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well, when we when we are running

 

376

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big crew,

 

377

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one guy could run up to seven,

 

378

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six, seven, eight crews himself.

 

379

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No, no. Without a problem. So

 

380

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you got

 

381

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to understand, you're done working

 

382

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your you're not working anymore.

 

383

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You're not touching tools.

 

384

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You know you are.

 

385

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And you better have a good bookkeeper.

 

386

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You better have

 

387

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a good accounting service,

 

388

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and you better not cheat your numbers

 

389

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because I don't know

 

390

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if the US is like Canada.

 

391

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Revenue Canada doesn't lose.

 

392

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So you got to know where you're at

 

393

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and you got to know where you're at.

 

394

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Every single day.

 

395

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Right now,

 

396

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we're probably top heavy on accounting

 

397

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just because

 

398

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I've learned my lesson late.

 

399

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We've we've we've been there.

 

400

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We've we've got spanked.

 

401

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But it's it's it.

 

402

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There is another way around it, though.

 

403

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You can

 

404

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you can keep going

 

405

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and you can go to four crews,

 

406

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five crew, six, crew seven

 

407

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and manage them yourself.

 

408

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But you have to be at career change.

 

409

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It has to be a career change.

 

410

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You know, when I

 

411

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when I saw what is out in Calgary

 

412

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and then I come to corner here

 

413

00:12:04,323 --> 00:12:04,790

to never,

 

414

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ever do what he did,

 

415

00:12:06,125 --> 00:12:07,460

never ever do hardwood floors again

 

416

00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:08,761

in my entire life.

 

417

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And and here we are doing wooden floors.

 

418

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But when I started

 

419

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when I started installing,

 

420

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sanding, finishing,

 

421

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and then we went on to manufacturing

 

422

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and retail and everything else, but

 

423

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I vowed that I want to start,

 

424

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but I'm too old, old

 

425

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and fat lazy anyways to to do it anyway.

 

426

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But I vowed I am not touching tools.

 

427

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I won't go

 

428

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any floor

 

429

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I laid was my daughter's house but

 

430

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I just won't do it.

 

431

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Just I I.

 

432

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And if you can discipline yourself,

 

433

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then it gives you the freedom

 

434

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to be able to manage.

 

435

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And that's that's the key.

 

436

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It's a proven fact.

 

437

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This is no it's no, it's no joke at all.

 

438

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It's less than 10%

 

439

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success rate

 

440

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of flooring companies that open up

 

441

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as a flooring contractors,

 

442

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less than 10% make it.

 

443

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It's not if you're

 

444

00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,048

if you're managing all your crews

 

445

00:13:03,716 --> 00:13:05,718

who's managing your store?

 

446

00:13:05,718 --> 00:13:07,653

Well, that's that's that

 

447

00:13:07,653 --> 00:13:08,788

that's the whole thing.

 

448

00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:11,023

So I'm just talking about

 

449

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if you're building crews now,

 

450

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if you want to open a store, you better

 

451

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you better be running at a lot of crews.

 

452

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You better be running a lot.

 

453

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A lot of a lot of the only reason I have

 

454

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two retail outlets right now

 

455

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like showrooms,

 

456

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is because we manufacture.

 

457

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There's no way I'd open a showroom

 

458

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if I had to buy the same product

 

459

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from the same wholesaler

 

460

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as a carpet store across the road

 

461

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and try to sell it.

 

462

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I wouldn't do it

 

463

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because the only way you can get

 

464

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you can beat that

 

465

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beat them is you have to be cheaper

 

466

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or you

 

467

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or you have to have a reputation

 

468

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where you can have a reputation

 

469

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because you're new.

 

470

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You're new at the game. So

 

471

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opening a store, is

 

472

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it that's a that's another that's an

 

473

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we call them to cancer.

 

474

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You just you just created a cancer

 

475

00:14:00,472 --> 00:14:03,275

and it's eating at you every day and.

 

476

00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:05,044

I'm going to.

 

477

00:14:05,044 --> 00:14:05,311

Wait.

 

478

00:14:05,311 --> 00:14:06,979

What, like opening a store?

 

479

00:14:06,979 --> 00:14:09,381

Like we're looking at a store in Calgary

 

480

00:14:09,381 --> 00:14:09,648

right now.

 

481

00:14:09,648 --> 00:14:10,216

We're saying,

 

482

00:14:10,216 --> 00:14:11,250

you know,

 

483

00:14:11,250 --> 00:14:13,085

this the showroom is not

 

484

00:14:13,085 --> 00:14:15,287

is not the expense.

 

485

00:14:15,287 --> 00:14:16,088

Three grand a month,

 

486

00:14:16,088 --> 00:14:17,690

I can have my showroom,

 

487

00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:19,158

but every person I put in there,

 

488

00:14:19,158 --> 00:14:20,626

five grand a month

 

489

00:14:20,626 --> 00:14:22,127

and I give them a sales car

 

490

00:14:22,127 --> 00:14:23,362

and a gas card

 

491

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and a commission on every job they make.

 

492

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And you have to have two salespeople

 

493

00:14:26,732 --> 00:14:28,901

to run the store because they all kid.

 

494

00:14:28,901 --> 00:14:30,302

One person can't be there all the time.

 

495

00:14:30,302 --> 00:14:31,370

How are they going to do their estimates

 

496

00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:31,904

and everything else?

 

497

00:14:31,904 --> 00:14:33,706

So you get two salespeople.

 

498

00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:35,040

So all of a sudden that store's

 

499

00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,543

$20,000 a month just to break even.

 

500

00:14:38,010 --> 00:14:40,779

Well, $3,000 was a showroom.

 

501

00:14:40,779 --> 00:14:42,414

That's a small part of it.

 

502

00:14:42,414 --> 00:14:43,449

And that's the problem.

 

503

00:14:43,449 --> 00:14:45,751

Every guy who walks, drives by

 

504

00:14:45,751 --> 00:14:47,086

the mini strip mall says,

 

505

00:14:47,086 --> 00:14:47,686

yeah, I can

 

506

00:14:47,686 --> 00:14:49,622

I can rent that place for 2500 bucks

 

507

00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:51,023

a month. I got my own store.

 

508

00:14:51,991 --> 00:14:52,591

Okay.

 

509

00:14:52,591 --> 00:14:54,360

How are you going to staff it?

 

510

00:14:54,627 --> 00:14:55,728

Who's going to keep the lights

 

511

00:14:55,728 --> 00:14:56,328

and everything on?

 

512

00:14:56,328 --> 00:14:58,097

Who's what about your sales cars?

 

513

00:14:58,097 --> 00:14:59,365

What about your escalators?

 

514

00:14:59,365 --> 00:15:01,333

What about your commissions?

 

515

00:15:01,333 --> 00:15:03,068

That's that's the killer.

 

516

00:15:03,068 --> 00:15:05,671

So it's

 

517

00:15:05,671 --> 00:15:07,539

and back to the same thing

 

518

00:15:07,539 --> 00:15:09,174

installer looks says

 

519

00:15:09,174 --> 00:15:10,409

2500 bucks a month man

 

520

00:15:10,409 --> 00:15:11,410

I make that in the first six

 

521

00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:13,646

seven days of my week.

 

522

00:15:13,812 --> 00:15:16,315

Have my months to cover my rent,

 

523

00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:19,218

but do all the rest of the numbers

 

524

00:15:19,451 --> 00:15:20,719

and everything else up.

 

525

00:15:20,719 --> 00:15:21,420

And all of a sudden

 

526

00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:22,922

you've got a big burden

 

527

00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:25,024

that you got to carry every month.

 

528

00:15:25,024 --> 00:15:26,525

And then and the problem is

 

529

00:15:26,525 --> 00:15:27,559

then you get into it

 

530

00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:29,328

and then they say, Man, I,

 

531

00:15:29,328 --> 00:15:30,696

I got to get these job.

 

532

00:15:30,696 --> 00:15:32,498

I got to lower my price.

 

533

00:15:32,498 --> 00:15:33,732

Now you lower your price.

 

534

00:15:33,732 --> 00:15:35,000

Now you're working cheap.

 

535

00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,136

Now you're working cheap now.

 

536

00:15:37,202 --> 00:15:38,971

Now the wolf is well,

 

537

00:15:38,971 --> 00:15:40,172

you have one screw up

 

538

00:15:40,172 --> 00:15:41,674

and you can't afford it.

 

539

00:15:41,674 --> 00:15:43,709

I got a job right now.

 

540

00:15:43,709 --> 00:15:46,111

It went sideways and you get jumped.

 

541

00:15:46,111 --> 00:15:47,246

Go sideways.

 

542

00:15:47,313 --> 00:15:48,280

That's this business.

 

543

00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,448

I got a job right now.

 

544

00:15:49,448 --> 00:15:51,550

It's a 40, 40, $2,000 job.

 

545

00:15:51,550 --> 00:15:54,153

It's sideways. It went sideways.

 

546

00:15:54,153 --> 00:15:56,488

And now we're in

 

547

00:15:56,488 --> 00:15:58,390

we're in a push pull match on this job.

 

548

00:15:58,390 --> 00:15:59,658

Now we'll start it out,

 

549

00:15:59,658 --> 00:16:00,893

I believe, in the long run.

 

550

00:16:00,893 --> 00:16:02,428

You just back off a while,

 

551

00:16:02,428 --> 00:16:03,896

let the customer calm down

 

552

00:16:03,896 --> 00:16:04,496

and then go out,

 

553

00:16:04,496 --> 00:16:06,198

sit down with them, talk to them,

 

554

00:16:06,198 --> 00:16:08,701

figure it out, come do it again. But.

 

555

00:16:08,701 --> 00:16:09,335

But they're sitting on

 

556

00:16:09,335 --> 00:16:11,136

$25,000 of my money.

 

557

00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:11,637

Well,

 

558

00:16:12,271 --> 00:16:13,539

if you're running things

 

559

00:16:13,539 --> 00:16:14,206

really, really,

 

560

00:16:14,206 --> 00:16:17,576

really tight, well, you're in trouble.

 

561

00:16:17,576 --> 00:16:19,678

You're in trouble. Big trouble.

 

562

00:16:19,678 --> 00:16:22,147

I think also that the game has changed.

 

563

00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:22,681

And I think there's

 

564

00:16:22,681 --> 00:16:23,983

a important distinction

 

565

00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:25,951

that we that's kind of related to this.

 

566

00:16:25,951 --> 00:16:28,454

And and I think it

 

567

00:16:28,454 --> 00:16:30,622

it goes to setting yourself up

 

568

00:16:30,622 --> 00:16:32,191

for success or failure.

 

569

00:16:32,191 --> 00:16:32,791

In the past,

 

570

00:16:32,791 --> 00:16:33,692

you needed a website

 

571

00:16:33,692 --> 00:16:35,794

to support your retail store.

 

572

00:16:35,794 --> 00:16:37,696

Now you need your retail store store

 

573

00:16:37,696 --> 00:16:39,064

to support your website.

 

574

00:16:39,064 --> 00:16:40,499

If you're if you're doing things

 

575

00:16:40,499 --> 00:16:41,200

if you're really,

 

576

00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,768

really touching a lot of people

 

577

00:16:42,768 --> 00:16:43,268

and what have I mean,

 

578

00:16:43,268 --> 00:16:45,270

I think that can help you a lot.

 

579

00:16:45,270 --> 00:16:47,840

I think that, you know, with COVID,

 

580

00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:53,445

I saw an 80, 84 year old lady at a diner,

 

581

00:16:53,779 --> 00:16:55,314

opened up her cell phone

 

582

00:16:55,314 --> 00:16:57,216

and using the QR code

 

583

00:16:57,216 --> 00:16:58,650

and showing the other lady

 

584

00:16:58,650 --> 00:17:00,853

how to use a QR code to look at the, the,

 

585

00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,522

the menu.

 

586

00:17:03,522 --> 00:17:05,591

That's how people are buying. Now.

 

587

00:17:05,591 --> 00:17:07,693

So I think you also have to look at

 

588

00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:08,594

if you're not

 

589

00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:09,928

on that side of the business,

 

590

00:17:09,928 --> 00:17:11,830

if you're not really savvy on that,

 

591

00:17:11,830 --> 00:17:12,598

I think they can

 

592

00:17:12,598 --> 00:17:14,400

also put you behind the eight ball

 

593

00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,801

because technology change.

 

594

00:17:15,801 --> 00:17:17,169

Absolutely.

 

595

00:17:17,236 --> 00:17:18,070

You know,

 

596

00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:19,671

I tell you what we tell,

 

597

00:17:19,671 --> 00:17:21,473

we tell people here, we're

 

598

00:17:21,473 --> 00:17:23,375

we're a marketing company

 

599

00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:25,711

that does hardwood floors.

 

600

00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:27,813

So we we're big in marketing.

 

601

00:17:27,813 --> 00:17:30,282

Our Google stuff is bang on up to date.

 

602

00:17:30,282 --> 00:17:32,117

I have a guy that he does work for.

 

603

00:17:32,117 --> 00:17:34,353

We hire him to do

 

604

00:17:34,353 --> 00:17:36,055

we are bang up to date

 

605

00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:37,389

on all our Google stuff.

 

606

00:17:37,389 --> 00:17:39,525

And I can tell you this,

 

607

00:17:39,525 --> 00:17:41,927

there's only two advertisements I do

 

608

00:17:41,927 --> 00:17:43,862

the only two ways advertising

 

609

00:17:43,862 --> 00:17:46,031

and one is I do billboards

 

610

00:17:46,031 --> 00:17:46,899

for the drive by

 

611

00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,268

and the only reason I do a

 

612

00:17:49,268 --> 00:17:51,470

billboard is for branding.

 

613

00:17:51,470 --> 00:17:53,572

So just to put that, that

 

614

00:17:53,572 --> 00:17:55,908

what is in that bird into their head

 

615

00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:57,109

every time they drive by.

 

616

00:17:57,109 --> 00:17:59,778

But the only other advertise we do

 

617

00:17:59,778 --> 00:18:01,447

is is Google.

 

618

00:18:01,447 --> 00:18:02,948

Google is the largest advertiser

 

619

00:18:02,948 --> 00:18:03,382

in the world,

 

620

00:18:03,382 --> 00:18:03,982

and they're not even an

 

621

00:18:03,982 --> 00:18:05,884

advertising company,

 

622

00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:07,086

but it's Google.

 

623

00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:10,322

So the way we do it is no secret.

 

624

00:18:10,322 --> 00:18:11,557

I tell you exactly how we do it.

 

625

00:18:11,557 --> 00:18:14,560

We hit, we hit the billboards to

 

626

00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,495

to put it into the air.

 

627

00:18:16,495 --> 00:18:18,063

So nobody drives down

 

628

00:18:18,063 --> 00:18:19,364

the road, looks at our billboard

 

629

00:18:19,364 --> 00:18:20,666

and says, Hey, honey,

 

630

00:18:20,666 --> 00:18:22,201

we should get hardwood floors.

 

631

00:18:22,201 --> 00:18:23,902

No, it doesn't happen that way.

 

632

00:18:23,902 --> 00:18:25,037

But what they do is they're home

 

633

00:18:25,037 --> 00:18:26,538

sitting on their couch in the evening

 

634

00:18:26,538 --> 00:18:28,173

and he says, you know,

 

635

00:18:28,173 --> 00:18:30,142

we should look and get new wood floors.

 

636

00:18:30,142 --> 00:18:30,909

Yeah,

 

637

00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:31,944

first thing they do,

 

638

00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:33,846

they grab their laptop or their iPhone

 

639

00:18:33,846 --> 00:18:34,880

and they go, boom, boom,

 

640

00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,382

hardwood floors, cloner, punch it in

 

641

00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:39,418

oh about

 

642

00:18:39,418 --> 00:18:42,721

six company oh woodies we know them well.

 

643

00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:44,423

You don't know us

 

644

00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:46,892

but you know our billboard every day

 

645

00:18:47,226 --> 00:18:49,461

on the way to work and back instantly.

 

646

00:18:49,461 --> 00:18:50,896

Who's going to get the first call?

 

647

00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:53,432

Yeah, we'll get that first call.

 

648

00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:54,299

There's what they call

 

649

00:18:54,299 --> 00:18:57,803

the tend to roll in and they figure now

 

650

00:18:58,670 --> 00:18:59,505

consumers will spend

 

651

00:18:59,505 --> 00:19:00,539

10 hours on the Internet

 

652

00:19:00,539 --> 00:19:02,407

researching into our shopping

 

653

00:19:02,407 --> 00:19:05,344

where they used to go like to 2.8 stores

 

654

00:19:05,777 --> 00:19:07,112

before making a purchase is now

 

655

00:19:07,112 --> 00:19:09,681

I think it's 1.2 stores

 

656

00:19:09,681 --> 00:19:10,516

which are the millennials

 

657

00:19:10,516 --> 00:19:11,850

which now up into the forties.

 

658

00:19:11,850 --> 00:19:12,751

That's an it's going to grow

 

659

00:19:12,751 --> 00:19:14,119

it's going to be a bigger

 

660

00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,954

audience than that even so,

 

661

00:19:15,954 --> 00:19:16,321

I mean,

 

662

00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:17,356

I think it's such an important

 

663

00:19:17,356 --> 00:19:18,457

part of the business.

 

664

00:19:18,457 --> 00:19:20,826

There is one person who who I know that

 

665

00:19:21,693 --> 00:19:23,795

that seemed to master this whole thing

 

666

00:19:23,795 --> 00:19:24,663

with retail stores.

 

667

00:19:24,663 --> 00:19:29,067

And it's Rob Johnson.

 

668

00:19:29,067 --> 00:19:30,836

You want to tell him how successful

 

669

00:19:30,836 --> 00:19:32,371

your operation was, Rob?

 

670

00:19:32,371 --> 00:19:33,472

So you want to talk about

 

671

00:19:33,472 --> 00:19:34,907

the wood floor corner.

 

672

00:19:36,275 --> 00:19:36,842

That was the name

 

673

00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:38,844

of our store, wood floor corner.

 

674

00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:41,313

It's funny because you were saying,

 

675

00:19:41,313 --> 00:19:43,348

you know, how are you going to staff it?

 

676

00:19:43,348 --> 00:19:45,450

So I got my partner

 

677

00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:47,519

and our two wives together

 

678

00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:49,188

and we're doing a lot of work

 

679

00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:51,123

and our name is getting pretty good.

 

680

00:19:51,123 --> 00:19:53,192

So I said, we got to have a store,

 

681

00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:55,494

found a place right on the corner

 

682

00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:57,095

in main Street.

 

683

00:19:57,095 --> 00:19:57,729

So it was good

 

684

00:19:57,729 --> 00:20:00,065

drive by traffic and everything.

 

685

00:20:00,065 --> 00:20:02,100

And they everybody was saying to me,

 

686

00:20:02,301 --> 00:20:03,202

How are we going to staff it?

 

687

00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:03,869

I go,

 

688

00:20:04,102 --> 00:20:05,270

Oh, you mean how are we going to stay?

 

689

00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:06,538

There's four of us.

 

690

00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:07,706

We'll be able to cover this.

 

691

00:20:07,706 --> 00:20:09,541

No problem.

 

692

00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:10,809

He had kids.

 

693

00:20:10,809 --> 00:20:11,610

I had kids.

 

694

00:20:11,610 --> 00:20:12,311

But I said, now

 

695

00:20:12,311 --> 00:20:16,682

the wives will do it will work well.

 

696

00:20:16,682 --> 00:20:18,951

Wow. Was that ever.

 

697

00:20:18,951 --> 00:20:19,518

We ended up

 

698

00:20:19,518 --> 00:20:22,754

being open Saturdays and Sundays

 

699

00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:25,290

and we tried to do nights

 

700

00:20:25,290 --> 00:20:26,959

and then we tried to do just

 

701

00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:29,728

calling in and it ended up really

 

702

00:20:29,728 --> 00:20:30,662

being like

 

703

00:20:30,662 --> 00:20:32,864

a hangout for our buddies to come and

 

704

00:20:33,732 --> 00:20:36,001

drink beer and watch the games and stuff.

 

705

00:20:36,001 --> 00:20:37,803

And it was a

 

706

00:20:37,803 --> 00:20:39,838

that was a complete disaster.

 

707

00:20:39,838 --> 00:20:41,373

Absolute disaster.

 

708

00:20:41,373 --> 00:20:43,742

One of the biggest mistakes I ever made.

 

709

00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:46,144

But we we were trying to

 

710

00:20:46,144 --> 00:20:48,880

run a store and go out every day

 

711

00:20:49,214 --> 00:20:50,415

and do the business

 

712

00:20:50,415 --> 00:20:52,718

and do the estimating and everything.

 

713

00:20:52,718 --> 00:20:54,052

So it just

 

714

00:20:55,187 --> 00:20:56,121

just didn't work.

 

715

00:20:56,121 --> 00:20:58,924

It's it's at the retail stores

 

716

00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:00,292

and it's not the rent.

 

717

00:21:00,292 --> 00:21:01,360

You probably never had a problem

 

718

00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,128

paying the rent at the river.

 

719

00:21:03,128 --> 00:21:03,962

No, no,

 

720

00:21:03,962 --> 00:21:04,997

that actually

 

721

00:21:04,997 --> 00:21:06,765

I think we were ticking people off

 

722

00:21:06,765 --> 00:21:08,834

more than we would have

 

723

00:21:08,834 --> 00:21:11,236

if we didn't have the store, because

 

724

00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:13,305

all we heard was,

 

725

00:21:13,305 --> 00:21:14,406

yeah, we stopped by the store

 

726

00:21:14,406 --> 00:21:15,240

and nobody was there.

 

727

00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,675

You weren't open. You never opened.

 

728

00:21:16,675 --> 00:21:16,942

What are your.

 

729

00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:18,377

Our yeah,

 

730

00:21:18,377 --> 00:21:19,578

that was just, you know,

 

731

00:21:19,578 --> 00:21:20,846

we thought we'd be able to cover it

 

732

00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:21,380

at night.

 

733

00:21:21,380 --> 00:21:23,181

Maybe the girls could cover it,

 

734

00:21:23,181 --> 00:21:26,318

but now we found out that right away

 

735

00:21:26,685 --> 00:21:30,088

you need to have regular store hours.

 

736

00:21:30,088 --> 00:21:30,856

Maybe you can go

 

737

00:21:30,856 --> 00:21:32,758

a little late into the night.

 

738

00:21:32,758 --> 00:21:35,060

The only thing I can say now, though, is

 

739

00:21:35,227 --> 00:21:36,728

I can tell you,

 

740

00:21:36,895 --> 00:21:39,197

because we make a high end product

 

741

00:21:39,197 --> 00:21:42,167

and we're not an impulse product

 

742

00:21:42,267 --> 00:21:44,870

like everybody that buys our product has

 

743

00:21:45,570 --> 00:21:47,939

Googled it and done their homework.

 

744

00:21:48,006 --> 00:21:50,208

They they didn't just drive by

 

745

00:21:50,242 --> 00:21:50,475

and then

 

746

00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:51,310

walk in and say,

 

747

00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:54,413

hey, didn't see you guys before here.

 

748

00:21:54,413 --> 00:21:54,813

Well,

 

749

00:21:54,813 --> 00:21:56,948

how much is the

 

750

00:21:56,948 --> 00:21:59,051

most people that come to our store

 

751

00:21:59,484 --> 00:22:01,953

have either emailed us,

 

752

00:22:01,953 --> 00:22:04,022

called us or texts already?

 

753

00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:07,259

And that is a bit of a benefit.

 

754

00:22:07,259 --> 00:22:09,661

Now, I can tell you that

 

755

00:22:09,661 --> 00:22:12,197

for every customer that does a $4,000

 

756

00:22:12,197 --> 00:22:14,333

purchase, they have Googled

 

757

00:22:14,499 --> 00:22:15,901

or searched you

 

758

00:22:15,901 --> 00:22:19,338

or LinkedIn or done something five times

 

759

00:22:19,471 --> 00:22:20,305

before

 

760

00:22:20,305 --> 00:22:22,207

they even made a phone call to you

 

761

00:22:22,207 --> 00:22:24,543

for anything over a $4,000 purchase.

 

762

00:22:24,543 --> 00:22:25,711

They'll try it.

 

763

00:22:25,711 --> 00:22:27,446

We do it too. We will have it.

 

764

00:22:27,446 --> 00:22:29,114

We'll have somebody come in to our shop.

 

765

00:22:29,114 --> 00:22:29,715

It's kind of funny

 

766

00:22:29,715 --> 00:22:30,782

because Tim and I'll sit there

 

767

00:22:30,782 --> 00:22:31,750

and they'll come in

 

768

00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:32,851

and they'll

 

769

00:22:32,851 --> 00:22:33,618

they'll speak

 

770

00:22:33,618 --> 00:22:35,287

like an interior designer or something.

 

771

00:22:35,287 --> 00:22:37,022

And I'm this, I'm that. I can do this.

 

772

00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:37,489

I can do that.

 

773

00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:38,156

And

 

774

00:22:39,257 --> 00:22:40,926

she hasn't hit the door

 

775

00:22:40,926 --> 00:22:41,760

and we both punch

 

776

00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,795

in her name into Google.

 

777

00:22:43,829 --> 00:22:45,297

But who is she?

 

778

00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:47,366

Is she is she what she says she is?

 

779

00:22:47,566 --> 00:22:47,966

Is he

 

780

00:22:47,966 --> 00:22:49,267

what he says is

 

781

00:22:49,267 --> 00:22:51,036

has he done what is that with.

 

782

00:22:51,036 --> 00:22:51,970

That's it.

 

783

00:22:51,970 --> 00:22:53,071

And we just look at each other,

 

784

00:22:53,071 --> 00:22:54,573

we start laughing like,

 

785

00:22:54,573 --> 00:22:56,274

what the heck, we're both doing this

 

786

00:22:56,274 --> 00:22:58,443

that see it.

 

787

00:22:58,443 --> 00:22:59,544

The tool is right

 

788

00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:01,179

there at your fingertips to find out

 

789

00:23:01,179 --> 00:23:03,014

about anybody and anything. Right.

 

790

00:23:04,182 --> 00:23:06,752

So the same thing with a store now.

 

791

00:23:06,752 --> 00:23:09,688

Yeah, that was the case for years.

 

792

00:23:09,688 --> 00:23:11,289

Like everything.

 

793

00:23:11,289 --> 00:23:12,791

Hey, the only advertising we did

 

794

00:23:12,791 --> 00:23:15,927

for years was Yellow Pages and our vans.

 

795

00:23:16,128 --> 00:23:16,862

That's it.

 

796

00:23:17,162 --> 00:23:18,263

But it's a different game

 

797

00:23:18,263 --> 00:23:22,067

now, I can tell you even even on.

 

798

00:23:22,067 --> 00:23:23,635

We used to do a house, we used to

 

799

00:23:23,635 --> 00:23:25,470

we used to do a floor on a house

 

800

00:23:25,470 --> 00:23:25,971

and it would

 

801

00:23:25,971 --> 00:23:28,607

and we automatically would get two

 

802

00:23:28,607 --> 00:23:29,040

or three

 

803

00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,009

calls for estimates on that street

 

804

00:23:31,009 --> 00:23:31,576

because

 

805

00:23:31,576 --> 00:23:33,545

and the first thing they'd say is, hey,

 

806

00:23:33,545 --> 00:23:35,414

you just did Bert's for man.

 

807

00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:36,481

Does it look nice?

 

808

00:23:36,481 --> 00:23:39,451

Can you come up and give us a quote now?

 

809

00:23:39,584 --> 00:23:42,487

Nowadays, 25 years, 30 years

 

810

00:23:42,487 --> 00:23:44,890

later, we'll get that same phone call.

 

811

00:23:45,524 --> 00:23:46,425

Yes.

 

812

00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:48,126

And they'll give their address

 

813

00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:50,996

and that's it.

 

814

00:23:50,996 --> 00:23:52,798

So we'll go do an estimate.

 

815

00:23:52,798 --> 00:23:54,065

We'll say, oh,

 

816

00:23:54,065 --> 00:23:56,201

we just done a job four doors up

 

817

00:23:56,501 --> 00:23:57,903

two weeks ago.

 

818

00:23:57,903 --> 00:23:58,804

And the customers say,

 

819

00:23:58,804 --> 00:24:00,439

yeah, we've seen your vans

 

820

00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:02,207

or We seen your sandwich board.

 

821

00:24:02,207 --> 00:24:02,808

Oh, yeah.

 

822

00:24:02,808 --> 00:24:04,609

Did you stop in and take a look at.

 

823

00:24:04,609 --> 00:24:07,145

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

 

824

00:24:07,579 --> 00:24:08,680

We would never.

 

825

00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,981

Did you to call the homeowner?

 

826

00:24:09,981 --> 00:24:11,683

Did you stop in and ask the motor?

 

827

00:24:11,683 --> 00:24:14,286

No, no, no, no, no.

 

828

00:24:14,553 --> 00:24:16,021

But do you know what they did?

 

829

00:24:16,021 --> 00:24:17,122

They they read

 

830

00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:19,257

every one of my Google reviews,

 

831

00:24:19,257 --> 00:24:20,492

every one of them.

 

832

00:24:20,492 --> 00:24:21,693

But they would never go over

 

833

00:24:21,693 --> 00:24:23,929

to that homeowner and say, hey,

 

834

00:24:23,929 --> 00:24:25,564

how do you make it was Woody's

 

835

00:24:25,564 --> 00:24:26,431

was your floor good.

 

836

00:24:26,431 --> 00:24:27,432

Did they do good work there?

 

837

00:24:27,432 --> 00:24:29,367

But no, they won't do it.

 

838

00:24:29,367 --> 00:24:31,102

They're rather go on Google

 

839

00:24:31,102 --> 00:24:33,572

reviews and inserts the heck out of here

 

840

00:24:33,572 --> 00:24:34,673

on the Internet

 

841

00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:36,541

and then they'll make a phone call.

 

842

00:24:36,541 --> 00:24:39,411

It's it's a different game now.

 

843

00:24:39,411 --> 00:24:41,813

Okay. So a couple of things.

 

844

00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:43,915

One is like I

 

845

00:24:44,649 --> 00:24:46,351

this is not intended to be like negative,

 

846

00:24:46,351 --> 00:24:48,019

like to deflate somebody's

 

847

00:24:48,019 --> 00:24:49,721

guy's dreams or whatever.

 

848

00:24:49,721 --> 00:24:51,356

But I think you could also save

 

849

00:24:51,356 --> 00:24:52,624

a lot of people from a lot

 

850

00:24:52,624 --> 00:24:55,060

from heartache, number one.

 

851

00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:57,329

Number two is I remember in 2007

 

852

00:24:57,362 --> 00:24:58,530

when the economy crashed and I

 

853

00:24:58,530 --> 00:24:59,831

would talk to different contractors

 

854

00:24:59,831 --> 00:25:01,666

and it was two different camps,

 

855

00:25:01,666 --> 00:25:03,401

one group would say, man,

 

856

00:25:03,401 --> 00:25:04,970

I should have opened up a shell room.

 

857

00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:06,705

Now I'm slow, there's no work.

 

858

00:25:06,705 --> 00:25:08,707

And the other person would say,

 

859

00:25:08,707 --> 00:25:09,808

You know what?

 

860

00:25:09,875 --> 00:25:11,376

I open up the showroom as well.

 

861

00:25:11,376 --> 00:25:12,377

I should never have done it.

 

862

00:25:12,377 --> 00:25:13,044

I'm losing money

 

863

00:25:13,044 --> 00:25:14,613

on this and blah, blah, blah.

 

864

00:25:14,613 --> 00:25:16,181

But you know, as you say,

 

865

00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:17,816

the game has changed now

 

866

00:25:17,816 --> 00:25:19,885

and so what does work?

 

867

00:25:20,051 --> 00:25:20,852

What I mean,

 

868

00:25:20,852 --> 00:25:21,486

there's no

 

869

00:25:21,486 --> 00:25:22,587

I don't think there's any shame

 

870

00:25:22,587 --> 00:25:24,856

in working out of your out of

 

871

00:25:25,090 --> 00:25:26,558

your warehousing at home.

 

872

00:25:26,558 --> 00:25:29,327

And, you know, staying small.

 

873

00:25:29,327 --> 00:25:31,162

And, you know,

 

874

00:25:31,162 --> 00:25:32,697

I'll say that my brothers have done that.

 

875

00:25:32,697 --> 00:25:34,232

They have no desire to grow.

 

876

00:25:34,232 --> 00:25:34,533

They could

 

877

00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:35,534

they could have had

 

878

00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:36,902

many, many more people

 

879

00:25:36,902 --> 00:25:37,802

than they have working for them

 

880

00:25:37,802 --> 00:25:39,437

now, and they have no desire to.

 

881

00:25:39,437 --> 00:25:40,505

And I actually think

 

882

00:25:40,505 --> 00:25:41,806

it's a smart business plan

 

883

00:25:41,806 --> 00:25:43,108

in a lot of ways.

 

884

00:25:43,108 --> 00:25:45,877

Well, I'll tell you what, we're doing it

 

885

00:25:46,611 --> 00:25:48,346

we've rock the boat pretty bad here

 

886

00:25:48,346 --> 00:25:50,882

for people for contractors in Kona

 

887

00:25:50,882 --> 00:25:52,050

because we're it's a smaller

 

888

00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:52,617

market

 

889

00:25:52,617 --> 00:25:55,353

like in Calgary with 1,000,004 people.

 

890

00:25:55,954 --> 00:25:56,621

There's a lot

 

891

00:25:56,621 --> 00:25:58,590

we have quite a few contractors

 

892

00:25:58,590 --> 00:25:59,958

that we have no prices

 

893

00:25:59,958 --> 00:26:00,892

on any of our samples

 

894

00:26:00,892 --> 00:26:02,727

and they know where the manufacture. So

 

895

00:26:03,895 --> 00:26:04,996

like I know one or

 

896

00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:06,398

two different contractors right now

 

897

00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:08,333

they'll call up our salesgirl there

 

898

00:26:08,333 --> 00:26:09,301

and they'll say, Janine,

 

899

00:26:09,301 --> 00:26:10,969

I have a customer coming in there.

 

900

00:26:10,969 --> 00:26:13,104

Could you show them this business?

 

901

00:26:13,104 --> 00:26:14,739

And yeah, absolutely.

 

902

00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:16,207

And so when they come in, they say,

 

903

00:26:16,207 --> 00:26:18,910

hey, could could I see?

 

904

00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:20,345

Yeah, no problem.

 

905

00:26:20,345 --> 00:26:22,380

See, this is shows all the stuff.

 

906

00:26:22,380 --> 00:26:23,715

And then we give that contractor

 

907

00:26:23,715 --> 00:26:25,183

of course a reduced price.

 

908

00:26:25,183 --> 00:26:25,517

But we,

 

909

00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:25,884

they don't

 

910

00:26:25,884 --> 00:26:27,385

customer doesn't talk price to us,

 

911

00:26:27,385 --> 00:26:29,521

but we're letting them use our showroom.

 

912

00:26:29,821 --> 00:26:31,856

We, we just want to move product,

 

913

00:26:31,856 --> 00:26:32,657

we want to move product.

 

914

00:26:32,657 --> 00:26:33,758

That's all we want to do.

 

915

00:26:33,758 --> 00:26:35,060

And so and I don't care,

 

916

00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:35,994

it doesn't matter to me

 

917

00:26:35,994 --> 00:26:37,028

who the customer is and who

 

918

00:26:37,028 --> 00:26:38,129

or who has electric.

 

919

00:26:38,129 --> 00:26:39,464

So we have contractors,

 

920

00:26:39,464 --> 00:26:40,532

the foreign contractors

 

921

00:26:40,532 --> 00:26:42,734

that use our showroom to,

 

922

00:26:43,735 --> 00:26:45,036

to, to

 

923

00:26:45,036 --> 00:26:46,237

and then we sell them to wooden

 

924

00:26:46,237 --> 00:26:47,839

and they go ahead and do the job.

 

925

00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:49,507

We don't have nothing to do with the job.

 

926

00:26:49,507 --> 00:26:51,309

So I encourage that a lot.

 

927

00:26:51,309 --> 00:26:53,211

And even the wholesalers, like

 

928

00:26:53,211 --> 00:26:55,413

I don't know if I was a wholesaler

 

929

00:26:55,413 --> 00:26:56,314

and had a whole

 

930

00:26:56,314 --> 00:26:57,349

I would put a showroom in

 

931

00:26:57,349 --> 00:26:58,984

and tell all my customers

 

932

00:26:58,984 --> 00:26:59,951

in the wholesale

 

933

00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:01,987

there's a showroom for you use it

 

934

00:27:02,821 --> 00:27:04,923

and and and that way there

 

935

00:27:04,923 --> 00:27:06,124

because all the wholesaler wants to do

 

936

00:27:06,124 --> 00:27:07,459

is move product

 

937

00:27:08,026 --> 00:27:11,029

but if it sure helps the contractor.

 

938

00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:13,398

We have a distributor here in Albany.

 

939

00:27:13,398 --> 00:27:15,233

That's how he does it.

 

940

00:27:15,233 --> 00:27:18,103

He has a really nice showroom

 

941

00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:19,371

and everybody knows

 

942

00:27:19,371 --> 00:27:20,472

you send their customers there.

 

943

00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:21,773

They never talk price.

 

944

00:27:21,773 --> 00:27:22,741

They don't have prices

 

945

00:27:22,741 --> 00:27:24,776

on any of the samples

 

946

00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:26,011

or anything like that,

 

947

00:27:26,011 --> 00:27:28,313

but they get a really nice showroom

 

948

00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:29,047

and it's geared

 

949

00:27:29,047 --> 00:27:31,182

just exactly for that,

 

950

00:27:31,182 --> 00:27:32,651

for their contractors

 

951

00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,352

to send their homeowners,

 

952

00:27:34,352 --> 00:27:35,754

sometimes they'll meet them there

 

953

00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:37,656

and then sometimes they'll say, Hey,

 

954

00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:38,556

stop by here.

 

955

00:27:38,556 --> 00:27:39,357

They're open

 

956

00:27:39,357 --> 00:27:42,027

five days a week, stop by any time.

 

957

00:27:42,027 --> 00:27:42,560

And, you know,

 

958

00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,629

talk to one of these two guys

 

959

00:27:44,629 --> 00:27:46,531

and they'll take it from there.

 

960

00:27:46,531 --> 00:27:48,700

So no idea. That's a right way.

 

961

00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:49,801

Nice way to.

 

962

00:27:49,801 --> 00:27:52,037

Yeah, absolutely.

 

963

00:27:52,037 --> 00:27:53,071

And so we encourage that

 

964

00:27:53,071 --> 00:27:54,239

with our showrooms.

 

965

00:27:54,239 --> 00:27:55,073

Same thing

 

966

00:27:55,073 --> 00:27:55,640

like we'll sell

 

967

00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,908

wholesale to the contract.

 

968

00:27:56,908 --> 00:27:57,342

But you know,

 

969

00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,811

I also have a lot of contractors,

 

970

00:27:59,811 --> 00:28:01,846

I have a lot of contract all over

 

971

00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:03,448

Western Canada, guys

 

972

00:28:03,448 --> 00:28:04,949

that even used to work for us.

 

973

00:28:04,949 --> 00:28:07,352

But guys are really good operators

 

974

00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:09,187

and they work out of their garage

 

975

00:28:09,187 --> 00:28:11,156

and they have a good clientele

 

976

00:28:11,156 --> 00:28:12,357

and they do good work

 

977

00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:13,491

and they work by themselves

 

978

00:28:13,491 --> 00:28:16,061

or maybe one crew helping them.

 

979

00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:17,162

And they'll call me up to say,

 

980

00:28:17,162 --> 00:28:18,697

Can I got a seven and a half

 

981

00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,065

inch white oak floor

 

982

00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:21,533

that I need, but I need like a

 

983

00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:24,903

mocha stain on it.

 

984

00:28:24,903 --> 00:28:26,905

Can you, can you fire me some samples up?

 

985

00:28:26,905 --> 00:28:27,572

No problem.

 

986

00:28:27,572 --> 00:28:29,107

So I'll just I'll call in in the back.

 

987

00:28:29,107 --> 00:28:30,041

They call runs, run

 

988

00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:33,111

a 2 to 4 boards for mocha, stand.

 

989

00:28:33,111 --> 00:28:35,513

We're going to send it off to so-and-so

 

990

00:28:35,513 --> 00:28:36,014

next day.

 

991

00:28:36,014 --> 00:28:37,082

We peer later to him.

 

992

00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:38,717

He's got it in front of his customer

 

993

00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:40,218

within about three or four days.

 

994

00:28:40,218 --> 00:28:41,252

And then

 

995

00:28:41,986 --> 00:28:43,588

lots lot of times that doesn't work

 

996

00:28:43,588 --> 00:28:44,389

because on the first call,

 

997

00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:46,291

he'll call me up. Say, Ken, it works.

 

998

00:28:46,291 --> 00:28:48,093

But we need two shades later.

 

999

00:28:48,093 --> 00:28:50,228

No problem. Run two boards. Ship them up.

 

1000

00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:50,462

What?

 

1001

00:28:50,462 --> 00:28:52,630

25, 30 bucks a ship each time

 

1002

00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:53,465

it's a ship,

 

1003

00:28:53,465 --> 00:28:54,999

a showroom he's ever had,

 

1004

00:28:54,999 --> 00:28:56,634

and he's got a product

 

1005

00:28:56,634 --> 00:28:59,204

that nobody else around him has.

 

1006

00:28:59,971 --> 00:29:01,306

But and that's

 

1007

00:29:01,306 --> 00:29:03,041

and that's partly why we decided

 

1008

00:29:03,041 --> 00:29:04,843

to start manufacturing and finishing

 

1009

00:29:04,843 --> 00:29:05,610

it is

 

1010

00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:07,178

because I think

 

1011

00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:08,613

there's room for the little,

 

1012

00:29:08,613 --> 00:29:10,348

the little manufacturer

 

1013

00:29:10,348 --> 00:29:11,916

that does specialty stuff

 

1014

00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:13,451

to service the contractors.

 

1015

00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:16,187

So we talk about

 

1016

00:29:16,187 --> 00:29:18,022

we're going to have a conversation here

 

1017

00:29:18,022 --> 00:29:19,557

with Sprague

 

1018

00:29:19,557 --> 00:29:20,992

Lane on another show coming up soon.

 

1019

00:29:20,992 --> 00:29:21,459

And we're talking about

 

1020

00:29:21,459 --> 00:29:23,461

how important relationships are.

 

1021

00:29:23,461 --> 00:29:25,396

And you see retailers

 

1022

00:29:25,396 --> 00:29:27,799

and guys that work in,

 

1023

00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:29,868

you know, in their in their garage,

 

1024

00:29:29,868 --> 00:29:30,769

I'd say,

 

1025

00:29:30,935 --> 00:29:33,571

are two different audiences altogether.

 

1026

00:29:33,571 --> 00:29:35,173

And sometimes they miss each other,

 

1027

00:29:35,173 --> 00:29:35,373

you know,

 

1028

00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:36,241

and sometimes they like

 

1029

00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:38,309

they resent each other,

 

1030

00:29:38,309 --> 00:29:40,712

but they really can work together

 

1031

00:29:40,712 --> 00:29:41,546

very well.

 

1032

00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:43,681

And and so they're both there benefits.

 

1033

00:29:44,115 --> 00:29:46,918

Absolutely. Absolutely.

 

1034

00:29:47,418 --> 00:29:48,353

For sure.

 

1035

00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:48,953

Yeah.

 

1036

00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:53,091

But, you know, it's the same thing.

 

1037

00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:54,926

There's the one contractor who just

 

1038

00:29:54,926 --> 00:29:55,827

who wants everything

 

1039

00:29:55,827 --> 00:29:56,761

and the other contractor

 

1040

00:29:56,761 --> 00:29:58,463

who charges his rate,

 

1041

00:29:58,463 --> 00:29:59,164

who is right

 

1042

00:29:59,164 --> 00:30:01,432

price and makes margins and is.

 

1043

00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:02,567

Yeah it's hard to school

 

1044

00:30:02,567 --> 00:30:03,902

everybody on everything

 

1045

00:30:03,902 --> 00:30:05,103

but I do know

 

1046

00:30:05,103 --> 00:30:06,371

going back to the showroom

 

1047

00:30:06,371 --> 00:30:09,541

and how to on how to build crews

 

1048

00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:10,708

multiple crews

 

1049

00:30:10,708 --> 00:30:14,312

I will I when we started building

 

1050

00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:17,148

multiple crews and having a showroom and

 

1051

00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:18,483

and doing

 

1052

00:30:19,484 --> 00:30:21,085

doing what we did every day

 

1053

00:30:21,085 --> 00:30:22,353

with as many houses.

 

1054

00:30:22,353 --> 00:30:25,456

We I did realize that

 

1055

00:30:25,456 --> 00:30:26,858

you need dispatchers,

 

1056

00:30:26,858 --> 00:30:28,593

you need guys to run crews.

 

1057

00:30:28,593 --> 00:30:31,162

And I tried to bring in a sanding crew,

 

1058

00:30:31,162 --> 00:30:32,497

a sanding guy to do that.

 

1059

00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:34,098

And that was a disaster.

 

1060

00:30:34,098 --> 00:30:35,033

He all he wanted to do

 

1061

00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:35,600

is reteach

 

1062

00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,501

everybody, retrain

 

1063

00:30:36,501 --> 00:30:38,102

everybody and do it all.

 

1064

00:30:38,102 --> 00:30:38,903

Had to do it his way.

 

1065

00:30:38,903 --> 00:30:40,538

So and I brought an installer in

 

1066

00:30:40,538 --> 00:30:41,439

it was the same thing.

 

1067

00:30:41,439 --> 00:30:42,473

He didn't want to be there

 

1068

00:30:42,473 --> 00:30:43,975

and they didn't want to listen to him

 

1069

00:30:43,975 --> 00:30:46,077

because he was just an installer.

 

1070

00:30:46,077 --> 00:30:48,479

So what I did was

 

1071

00:30:48,479 --> 00:30:51,716

I just I looked at all the builders I did

 

1072

00:30:52,417 --> 00:30:52,951

and I thought,

 

1073

00:30:52,951 --> 00:30:55,153

who's the best project manager

 

1074

00:30:55,153 --> 00:30:56,221

of all these builders?

 

1075

00:30:56,221 --> 00:30:57,889

And that guy's name come to my head

 

1076

00:30:57,889 --> 00:30:58,489

and I phoned him up.

 

1077

00:30:58,489 --> 00:30:59,858

Next day I says, Hey,

 

1078

00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:00,992

will you come work for me?

 

1079

00:31:00,992 --> 00:31:02,360

He says, Doing what?

 

1080

00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,661

I says, Dispatching crews.

 

1081

00:31:03,661 --> 00:31:04,963

He says, I work for a builder.

 

1082

00:31:04,963 --> 00:31:05,296

I'm it.

 

1083

00:31:05,296 --> 00:31:06,831

I'm a project manager as well.

 

1084

00:31:06,831 --> 00:31:09,100

When you get pissed off, call me.

 

1085

00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:09,634

So anyways,

 

1086

00:31:09,634 --> 00:31:10,034

he did

 

1087

00:31:10,034 --> 00:31:10,969

well six weeks later

 

1088

00:31:10,969 --> 00:31:12,170

or so he called

 

1089

00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:13,438

for six weeks or something.

 

1090

00:31:13,438 --> 00:31:15,173

He called and I know what he wanted.

 

1091

00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:16,074

Let's go for lunch

 

1092

00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:17,709

and he come and work for us

 

1093

00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:20,511

and he refresh for years and he dispatch

 

1094

00:31:20,511 --> 00:31:21,279

crews, he run

 

1095

00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:21,946

jobs,

 

1096

00:31:21,946 --> 00:31:22,780

dispatch crew

 

1097

00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:25,083

and did a heck of a good job of it.

 

1098

00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:26,684

But he didn't know hardwood.

 

1099

00:31:26,684 --> 00:31:27,685

He didn't know hardwood floor.

 

1100

00:31:27,685 --> 00:31:29,187

He he knew that.

 

1101

00:31:29,187 --> 00:31:30,255

But he couldn't lay a floor.

 

1102

00:31:30,255 --> 00:31:31,556

He couldn't finish a floor.

 

1103

00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:33,424

But, you know, the guys respected him

 

1104

00:31:33,424 --> 00:31:35,860

because he wasn't trying to teach them

 

1105

00:31:36,027 --> 00:31:37,462

and he wasn't trying to tell them.

 

1106

00:31:37,462 --> 00:31:39,297

And he was a he wasn't

 

1107

00:31:39,297 --> 00:31:40,832

he was a project manager

 

1108

00:31:40,832 --> 00:31:42,166

and he knew how to manage

 

1109

00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:43,201

and he knew how to schedule

 

1110

00:31:43,201 --> 00:31:44,569

and he knew how to coordinate.

 

1111

00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:45,136

And man,

 

1112

00:31:45,136 --> 00:31:47,372

did he make our life a lot easier.

 

1113

00:31:47,372 --> 00:31:49,407

And it's the same thing.

 

1114

00:31:49,641 --> 00:31:52,143

Is it him?

 

1115

00:31:52,143 --> 00:31:53,645

You can't bring a contractor in

 

1116

00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:55,280

and make him a business

 

1117

00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,481

man is tough to do.

 

1118

00:31:56,481 --> 00:31:58,449

You can't make a sanding guy or

 

1119

00:31:58,449 --> 00:32:00,685

being a dispatcher. A guy

 

1120

00:32:01,653 --> 00:32:02,553

is an old saying you

 

1121

00:32:02,553 --> 00:32:03,187

are in your life

 

1122

00:32:03,187 --> 00:32:05,623

and Zachary is supposed to be

 

1123

00:32:05,623 --> 00:32:08,059

like, yeah, that's why you're there.

 

1124

00:32:08,059 --> 00:32:09,994

Is because that's.

 

1125

00:32:09,994 --> 00:32:12,263

But you know, like you said, though,

 

1126

00:32:12,297 --> 00:32:13,765

you don't want to discourage everybody.

 

1127

00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:14,499

You don't want to say,

 

1128

00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:15,533

boy, don't ever do

 

1129

00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:15,967

freak out

 

1130

00:32:15,967 --> 00:32:18,002

because some of us have done

 

1131

00:32:18,002 --> 00:32:19,404

very well at retail.

 

1132

00:32:19,404 --> 00:32:22,006

But it's the biggest thing is

 

1133

00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,608

it's a career change.

 

1134

00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:26,044

It's a complete career change.

 

1135

00:32:27,011 --> 00:32:27,745

Craftsman.

 

1136

00:32:27,745 --> 00:32:29,814

Craftsman want to do craftsman stuff.

 

1137

00:32:29,814 --> 00:32:30,782

Exactly.

 

1138

00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:31,816

Craftsman don't want to be

 

1139

00:32:31,816 --> 00:32:34,485

sitting at a desk and pushing pencil and

 

1140

00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,655

they want to do craftsman things.

 

1141

00:32:37,655 --> 00:32:38,523

But the problem is,

 

1142

00:32:38,523 --> 00:32:40,591

I don't think they manage it good enough

 

1143

00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:41,726

where they're

 

1144

00:32:41,726 --> 00:32:42,961

they should be getting paid

 

1145

00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:44,629

the way that they should be

 

1146

00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:45,496

because they're out there

 

1147

00:32:45,496 --> 00:32:46,230

doing the craft.

 

1148

00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:49,334

So why is it every flooring contractor

 

1149

00:32:49,334 --> 00:32:50,268

I know

 

1150

00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:51,836

thinks he has to give a deal

 

1151

00:32:51,836 --> 00:32:53,137

to get a job?

 

1152

00:32:53,304 --> 00:32:55,506

It drives me crazy.

 

1153

00:32:55,506 --> 00:32:57,108

Yeah, well, okay.

 

1154

00:32:57,108 --> 00:32:57,742

This job.

 

1155

00:32:57,742 --> 00:32:59,577

Okay, back to square foot to Stanford.

 

1156

00:32:59,577 --> 00:33:01,179

Oh, it's really good.

 

1157

00:33:01,179 --> 00:33:02,213

And I really want the job.

 

1158

00:33:04,215 --> 00:33:04,816

Where I can.

 

1159

00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:06,184

We're going to ask you to go back

 

1160

00:33:06,184 --> 00:33:07,986

and listen to a bunch of our episodes.

 

1161

00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:08,720

Okay.

 

1162

00:33:09,087 --> 00:33:11,222

We don't talk like that on this show.

 

1163

00:33:11,389 --> 00:33:12,123

No,

 

1164

00:33:12,924 --> 00:33:15,393

everybody's in a race to the top.

 

1165

00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:17,161

Who's listening to this show?

 

1166

00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:18,796

That's right. Yeah.

 

1167

00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:21,833

Yeah, I wish.

 

1168

00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:23,801

Well, how?

 

1169

00:33:23,801 --> 00:33:25,470

Tell me how important a bookkeeper is.

 

1170

00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:26,504

And a lot of people think

 

1171

00:33:26,504 --> 00:33:27,271

that's an expense.

 

1172

00:33:27,271 --> 00:33:27,839

Oh, gosh.

 

1173

00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:28,172

Another

 

1174

00:33:28,172 --> 00:33:29,340

I got to add another expense to it.

 

1175

00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:30,541

But why don't you talk a little bit

 

1176

00:33:30,541 --> 00:33:31,042

about that?

 

1177

00:33:31,042 --> 00:33:33,378

Because I think it's it's a game changer.

 

1178

00:33:33,611 --> 00:33:35,313

Well, I'll tell you how we do it.

 

1179

00:33:35,313 --> 00:33:35,780

We do it.

 

1180

00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:37,348

We're a little top heavy

 

1181

00:33:37,348 --> 00:33:37,982

in him,

 

1182

00:33:37,982 --> 00:33:38,783

sits at the desk

 

1183

00:33:38,783 --> 00:33:39,150

and he does

 

1184

00:33:39,150 --> 00:33:39,751

data entry

 

1185

00:33:39,751 --> 00:33:40,151

all day

 

1186

00:33:40,151 --> 00:33:42,186

and takes care of all of our admin stuff.

 

1187

00:33:42,387 --> 00:33:43,421

But then we have a bookkeeper

 

1188

00:33:43,421 --> 00:33:44,389

that comes in every month

 

1189

00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:46,124

and picks up everything for that month

 

1190

00:33:46,124 --> 00:33:48,059

and through the QuickBooks

 

1191

00:33:48,059 --> 00:33:49,060

and make sure it's right.

 

1192

00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:49,727

And then everything

 

1193

00:33:49,727 --> 00:33:53,498

from there is handed on to accountant.

 

1194

00:33:53,498 --> 00:33:55,733

I know it's probably top heavy,

 

1195

00:33:55,733 --> 00:33:56,934

but I've learned in the past

 

1196

00:33:56,934 --> 00:33:58,202

that you need to know your numbers.

 

1197

00:33:58,202 --> 00:33:58,803

You need it.

 

1198

00:33:58,803 --> 00:34:00,238

Good numbers or bad numbers

 

1199

00:34:00,238 --> 00:34:02,173

you need to know and you know,

 

1200

00:34:03,574 --> 00:34:03,941

if we're

 

1201

00:34:03,941 --> 00:34:04,709

contractors and

 

1202

00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:06,978

we're working and we're doing stuff,

 

1203

00:34:06,978 --> 00:34:08,546

we like to fudge our numbers,

 

1204

00:34:08,546 --> 00:34:09,881

we like to think we made more

 

1205

00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:10,815

than we really did

 

1206

00:34:10,815 --> 00:34:12,884

where we like to think we did a little.

 

1207

00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:15,453

But if you give that to a bookkeeper,

 

1208

00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:16,254

she's going to give you

 

1209

00:34:16,254 --> 00:34:17,889

your real numbers.

 

1210

00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:18,723

She's going to tell you

 

1211

00:34:18,723 --> 00:34:20,024

exactly what you did.

 

1212

00:34:20,024 --> 00:34:21,092

And I remember

 

1213

00:34:21,092 --> 00:34:22,693

arguing with, oh, no, no, no.

 

1214

00:34:22,693 --> 00:34:24,862

I know I made more money, but.

 

1215

00:34:25,129 --> 00:34:26,931

No, no, no, not here it is.

 

1216

00:34:26,931 --> 00:34:27,698

Count. Here it is.

 

1217

00:34:27,698 --> 00:34:28,533

Is black, white

 

1218

00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:29,700

where you made more money?

 

1219

00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:30,968

Where the money go.

 

1220

00:34:30,968 --> 00:34:32,403

But no, I know, I know.

 

1221

00:34:32,403 --> 00:34:34,806

I was so busy and we did this job.

 

1222

00:34:34,806 --> 00:34:35,973

No, this is it.

 

1223

00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:37,241

This is what it is.

 

1224

00:34:37,241 --> 00:34:39,777

And if why it's important, it's

 

1225

00:34:39,777 --> 00:34:42,447

really, really, really important.

 

1226

00:34:42,547 --> 00:34:44,816

Well, you know what? It just.

 

1227

00:34:44,816 --> 00:34:46,350

Just screw up and let the government

 

1228

00:34:46,350 --> 00:34:47,385

come after you. It

 

1229

00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:49,620

is game over.

 

1230

00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:51,422

Here's why that is so important.

 

1231

00:34:51,422 --> 00:34:52,090

And that's one of the

 

1232

00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:53,124

I think the most important thing

 

1233

00:34:53,124 --> 00:34:54,092

you said today of

 

1234

00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:56,794

and it's been great information.

 

1235

00:34:56,894 --> 00:34:58,996

You can fall into the trap of thinking

 

1236

00:34:58,996 --> 00:35:00,198

you made more money than you

 

1237

00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:01,232

than you have.

 

1238

00:35:01,232 --> 00:35:03,501

I think I'd say 80% of the people do it.

 

1239

00:35:03,901 --> 00:35:06,270

And then the problem is that compounds.

 

1240

00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:07,605

And if you start thinking, oh,

 

1241

00:35:07,605 --> 00:35:08,773

I made this much on this job

 

1242

00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:10,875

and you start adding all that up.

 

1243

00:35:10,875 --> 00:35:11,876

So a lot of money

 

1244

00:35:11,876 --> 00:35:12,677

and it would have gave you

 

1245

00:35:12,677 --> 00:35:13,344

an opportunity

 

1246

00:35:13,344 --> 00:35:14,712

to capture that money and find out

 

1247

00:35:14,712 --> 00:35:15,613

what am I doing wrong,

 

1248

00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:16,581

where I where I'm not?

 

1249

00:35:16,581 --> 00:35:17,815

What do I need to do?

 

1250

00:35:17,815 --> 00:35:18,950

I need to raise my prices.

 

1251

00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:20,151

I need to change my process.

 

1252

00:35:20,151 --> 00:35:20,718

Do I do

 

1253

00:35:20,718 --> 00:35:22,920

I look at smaller, bit smaller jobs

 

1254

00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,388

and build them completely differently?

 

1255

00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:28,259

And that's so important that you do that.

 

1256

00:35:28,659 --> 00:35:29,927

So we're the same thing.

 

1257

00:35:29,927 --> 00:35:31,496

We have a male workshop

 

1258

00:35:31,496 --> 00:35:32,430

that knows all our wood

 

1259

00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:33,331

and it's

 

1260

00:35:33,331 --> 00:35:34,632

it's a down the road as a ways

 

1261

00:35:34,632 --> 00:35:36,901

away from our pre finished plant.

 

1262

00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:39,337

And we're looking at the numbers,

 

1263

00:35:39,337 --> 00:35:41,706

you know,

 

1264

00:35:41,706 --> 00:35:43,641

the operating numbers are just too high.

 

1265

00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:45,109

So we look at the rent,

 

1266

00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:47,712

the rent 6000 a month for that warehouse.

 

1267

00:35:48,346 --> 00:35:49,080

Right.

 

1268

00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,314

And we're saying, man,

 

1269

00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:51,916

how can we cut that rent down

 

1270

00:35:51,916 --> 00:35:53,217

and get looking at

 

1271

00:35:53,217 --> 00:35:55,386

I pay one guy 7000 a month

 

1272

00:35:56,787 --> 00:35:59,023

whose rent is not my problem.

 

1273

00:35:59,023 --> 00:36:01,192

Staffing is my problem.

 

1274

00:36:01,192 --> 00:36:04,629

I you got to watch every nickel

 

1275

00:36:04,829 --> 00:36:06,464

and you can't just zone in on something

 

1276

00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:07,765

because you think that's your problem.

 

1277

00:36:07,765 --> 00:36:08,299

You got to

 

1278

00:36:08,299 --> 00:36:09,400

you've got to know where you're not.

 

1279

00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,303

I look at my staff on my own staffing,

 

1280

00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:13,604

that email workshop.

 

1281

00:36:13,604 --> 00:36:16,140

I'm like, Who helped me

 

1282

00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:18,409

make this a little more rare?

 

1283

00:36:18,409 --> 00:36:19,944

But going into it

 

1284

00:36:19,944 --> 00:36:21,112

the first, you think, Oh, rent's

 

1285

00:36:21,112 --> 00:36:23,281

my problem. No, rent ain't my problem.

 

1286

00:36:23,281 --> 00:36:24,882

I got guys make more.

 

1287

00:36:24,882 --> 00:36:26,284

Half my guys are making more money

 

1288

00:36:26,284 --> 00:36:27,485

than the rent bill.

 

1289

00:36:27,485 --> 00:36:29,220

Yeah, well,

 

1290

00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:29,987

and then the other thing

 

1291

00:36:29,987 --> 00:36:31,789

you kind of fall into the trap of.

 

1292

00:36:31,789 --> 00:36:35,026

I work my, my, my butt off in this job.

 

1293

00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:37,361

I deserve this nice Denali truck.

 

1294

00:36:37,361 --> 00:36:38,462

I deserve this thing

 

1295

00:36:38,462 --> 00:36:39,730

because I'm working

 

1296

00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:42,233

90 and 90, 100 hours a week.

 

1297

00:36:42,233 --> 00:36:44,969

And, you know, all that plays into a man.

 

1298

00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:47,305

So you'll see it every time,

 

1299

00:36:47,305 --> 00:36:50,174

every time a guy opens a foreign store,

 

1300

00:36:51,242 --> 00:36:53,377

he buys himself a new truck.

 

1301

00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:56,981

Me to a donut.

 

1302

00:36:57,648 --> 00:36:58,382

You do it.

 

1303

00:36:58,382 --> 00:36:59,684

It's out of my head.

 

1304

00:36:59,684 --> 00:37:01,619

I go and you sell it to yourself.

 

1305

00:37:01,619 --> 00:37:02,820

You sell yourself.

 

1306

00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:04,322

I got to have that image.

 

1307

00:37:04,322 --> 00:37:05,690

I got to get the sticker on the truck.

 

1308

00:37:05,690 --> 00:37:06,090

I got

 

1309

00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:07,458

I can't drive around

 

1310

00:37:07,458 --> 00:37:08,726

in a van doing estimates.

 

1311

00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:10,127

I got to have a nice truck.

 

1312

00:37:10,127 --> 00:37:12,029

And I'm not just having a little drive

 

1313

00:37:12,029 --> 00:37:12,830

a big truck,

 

1314

00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:15,032

and I'm going to have a lesson.

 

1315

00:37:15,032 --> 00:37:15,900

I wrote the book on it.

 

1316

00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:17,468

I've got the T-shirt,

 

1317

00:37:17,468 --> 00:37:18,569

lost the t shirt on that one

 

1318

00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:19,170

too many times.

 

1319

00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:21,706

But it's the truth.

 

1320

00:37:22,373 --> 00:37:23,274

I always say

 

1321

00:37:23,274 --> 00:37:25,009

We all want to be the big shot.

 

1322

00:37:25,009 --> 00:37:26,143

Not dumb.

 

1323

00:37:26,577 --> 00:37:28,079

It's just it's our nature.

 

1324

00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:28,546

It's.

 

1325

00:37:28,779 --> 00:37:30,881

It's we all want to have

 

1326

00:37:30,881 --> 00:37:32,016

the biggest cruise,

 

1327

00:37:32,016 --> 00:37:34,418

the biggest jobs to be missed.

 

1328

00:37:34,485 --> 00:37:36,053

It's. It's our drive.

 

1329

00:37:36,053 --> 00:37:37,255

It's. It's just our nature.

 

1330

00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:39,957

It's it's western world thinking.

 

1331

00:37:39,957 --> 00:37:40,858

Yeah, yeah.

 

1332

00:37:40,858 --> 00:37:41,192

You know,

 

1333

00:37:41,192 --> 00:37:41,759

you were talking

 

1334

00:37:41,759 --> 00:37:44,161

about hiring accountants, and

 

1335

00:37:44,161 --> 00:37:45,229

I got a pretty good story

 

1336

00:37:45,229 --> 00:37:46,697

about the accountant that we hired.

 

1337

00:37:46,697 --> 00:37:47,632

Right around the same time

 

1338

00:37:47,632 --> 00:37:48,566

we opened the store,

 

1339

00:37:50,001 --> 00:37:51,836

we finally got audited.

 

1340

00:37:51,836 --> 00:37:54,772

About four years of this guy.

 

1341

00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:57,341

We got called into the IRS building

 

1342

00:37:57,341 --> 00:37:59,877

and they started off the whole

 

1343

00:38:01,412 --> 00:38:02,847

meeting with.

 

1344

00:38:02,847 --> 00:38:03,914

The good news is

 

1345

00:38:03,914 --> 00:38:04,749

there's not going to be

 

1346

00:38:04,749 --> 00:38:07,251

any jail time for you or your partner.

 

1347

00:38:07,251 --> 00:38:09,520

Oh, that's a good yeah.

 

1348

00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:11,822

That that was

 

1349

00:38:11,822 --> 00:38:13,891

that was the good news of the day.

 

1350

00:38:13,891 --> 00:38:15,426

So you must have

 

1351

00:38:15,426 --> 00:38:17,295

some pretty good stories, too.

 

1352

00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:18,062

Well, first of all,

 

1353

00:38:18,062 --> 00:38:19,230

you know how to hire an accountant

 

1354

00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:21,532

right now. No, I don't.

 

1355

00:38:21,699 --> 00:38:23,267

Okay, number one, this is.

 

1356

00:38:23,267 --> 00:38:24,168

No person.

 

1357

00:38:24,168 --> 00:38:26,304

First word interview with the accountant.

 

1358

00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:29,907

What's two plus two?

 

1359

00:38:29,907 --> 00:38:32,076

And he says four.

 

1360

00:38:32,076 --> 00:38:34,111

He's fired right there.

 

1361

00:38:34,111 --> 00:38:34,879

Yeah.

 

1362

00:38:34,945 --> 00:38:36,314

His answer is supposed to be,

 

1363

00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:40,618

what do you need it to be?

 

1364

00:38:40,618 --> 00:38:42,119

That's a good at count.

 

1365

00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:43,487

There you go.

 

1366

00:38:43,587 --> 00:38:44,822

Oh, yeah.

 

1367

00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:45,923

You know what?

 

1368

00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:49,193

When you rotate as much floors

 

1369

00:38:49,193 --> 00:38:50,661

in as many jobs and stuff

 

1370

00:38:50,661 --> 00:38:53,531

as we have things, crazy things happen.

 

1371

00:38:53,564 --> 00:38:55,232

Like really, really crazy.

 

1372

00:38:55,232 --> 00:38:55,900

I'll tell you one,

 

1373

00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,402

we wrote an article for here a while ago

 

1374

00:38:58,569 --> 00:38:59,804

and I tell you what,

 

1375

00:38:59,804 --> 00:39:02,940

but so we did a job, this guy,

 

1376

00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:04,842

and he wanted us to do his house

 

1377

00:39:04,842 --> 00:39:07,311

to the two floors, the top floor,

 

1378

00:39:07,311 --> 00:39:07,912

main floor,

 

1379

00:39:07,912 --> 00:39:09,380

and the top floor of his whole house.

 

1380

00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,381

And that's back in the old sand

 

1381

00:39:10,381 --> 00:39:11,315

and finish two and a quarter

 

1382

00:39:11,315 --> 00:39:12,450

Red Oak select and better

 

1383

00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:13,651

stand and finish the whole thing.

 

1384

00:39:13,651 --> 00:39:14,118

He says, I'm

 

1385

00:39:14,118 --> 00:39:16,420

going to Florida for a month, he says.

 

1386

00:39:16,887 --> 00:39:18,422

I'm going to take all my furniture

 

1387

00:39:18,422 --> 00:39:19,323

and put it in the basement.

 

1388

00:39:19,323 --> 00:39:20,758

The whole everything

 

1389

00:39:20,758 --> 00:39:22,059

is, I want you to come in here

 

1390

00:39:22,059 --> 00:39:23,260

and I want you to hardwood

 

1391

00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:25,296

the whole thing,

 

1392

00:39:25,296 --> 00:39:26,464

except for

 

1393

00:39:26,464 --> 00:39:28,833

the bathroom in the laundromat.

 

1394

00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:30,868

So we said, sure, absolutely.

 

1395

00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:32,536

So where we get going

 

1396

00:39:32,536 --> 00:39:33,371

there, one of our crews,

 

1397

00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:34,405

we had multiple crews

 

1398

00:39:34,405 --> 00:39:36,040

and so

 

1399

00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,241

they laid all the floors

 

1400

00:39:37,241 --> 00:39:38,376

and got it all done.

 

1401

00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,244

And then they're sanding away

 

1402

00:39:40,244 --> 00:39:41,746

on the top floor

 

1403

00:39:41,746 --> 00:39:43,781

around a toilet flange and a half bath.

 

1404

00:39:44,648 --> 00:39:47,485

The edger tilted down into us

 

1405

00:39:47,785 --> 00:39:48,386

toilet flange

 

1406

00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:49,820

a little bit and jumped across the floor

 

1407

00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:51,589

and cut the waterline right off

 

1408

00:39:52,690 --> 00:39:54,759

the rate off flush for the floor.

 

1409

00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:57,361

So now we got a half inch waterline

 

1410

00:39:57,862 --> 00:39:58,562

hitting the roof,

 

1411

00:39:58,562 --> 00:39:59,730

straight water coming

 

1412

00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:01,165

straight up out of the room.

 

1413

00:40:01,165 --> 00:40:03,634

So the guys for me

 

1414

00:40:03,634 --> 00:40:05,436

can this is what happened.

 

1415

00:40:05,436 --> 00:40:07,405

I said, well, shut the water off.

 

1416

00:40:07,405 --> 00:40:08,172

Well, we can.

 

1417

00:40:08,172 --> 00:40:09,440

The base was full of furniture.

 

1418

00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,609

We can't even open the door that full

 

1419

00:40:11,609 --> 00:40:12,943

and we'll go round in the water

 

1420

00:40:12,943 --> 00:40:14,912

out of the walker. We go in.

 

1421

00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:16,414

We tried it. We can't.

 

1422

00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:17,615

It's full.

 

1423

00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:20,284

This is what I call the fire department.

 

1424

00:40:20,551 --> 00:40:22,787

So they call the fire department.

 

1425

00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:24,722

Fire department comes out,

 

1426

00:40:24,822 --> 00:40:26,791

looks around.

 

1427

00:40:26,791 --> 00:40:29,126

Well, we got to show up on the curb.

 

1428

00:40:30,127 --> 00:40:32,463

Can't find it, can't find a water shop.

 

1429

00:40:32,463 --> 00:40:35,433

So they call down to the apartment.

 

1430

00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:37,368

They bring up a metal detector.

 

1431

00:40:37,368 --> 00:40:39,470

They find it under the concrete driveway.

 

1432

00:40:40,371 --> 00:40:41,972

So they can't they can't shut the way.

 

1433

00:40:41,972 --> 00:40:43,107

We're talking hours

 

1434

00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:44,542

later, water still running.

 

1435

00:40:44,542 --> 00:40:46,277

There's nothing you can do.

 

1436

00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:48,412

So they call the city.

 

1437

00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:49,380

The city comes out,

 

1438

00:40:50,714 --> 00:40:51,482

does the same thing.

 

1439

00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:53,184

What they do, try to find out what?

 

1440

00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:54,151

No, can't find it.

 

1441

00:40:54,151 --> 00:40:55,653

These walls start empty in the basement.

 

1442

00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:57,721

Well, that basement was jammed.

 

1443

00:40:57,721 --> 00:40:58,556

They'd be half a day

 

1444

00:40:58,556 --> 00:40:59,857

emptying the basement.

 

1445

00:40:59,857 --> 00:41:01,559

Well, water was coming down the stairs

 

1446

00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:02,760

like a waterfall

 

1447

00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,094

and the ceilings were dropping.

 

1448

00:41:04,094 --> 00:41:06,363

The cabinets are falling, everything.

 

1449

00:41:06,363 --> 00:41:06,997

But anyways,

 

1450

00:41:06,997 --> 00:41:07,531

the city says

 

1451

00:41:07,531 --> 00:41:08,599

we have to water off

 

1452

00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:10,601

for the subdivision, so.

 

1453

00:41:10,601 --> 00:41:11,902

Well, that's a bigger key.

 

1454

00:41:11,902 --> 00:41:13,604

So we get down to the dispatcher,

 

1455

00:41:13,604 --> 00:41:15,473

get this key, come back up,

 

1456

00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:16,440

shut the water off.

 

1457

00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,041

We're talking

 

1458

00:41:17,041 --> 00:41:17,441

like four

 

1459

00:41:17,441 --> 00:41:18,676

and a half hours later,

 

1460

00:41:18,676 --> 00:41:19,710

we got the water turned off

 

1461

00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:21,679

to that whole subdivision.

 

1462

00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:24,181

Well, we wrecked that house.

 

1463

00:41:24,548 --> 00:41:25,416

It wrecked it.

 

1464

00:41:25,416 --> 00:41:27,451

It wrecked everything in that house.

 

1465

00:41:27,451 --> 00:41:29,353

No, there was no

 

1466

00:41:29,353 --> 00:41:32,189

the water basement, was it.

 

1467

00:41:32,189 --> 00:41:34,325

The ceilings all fell down there.

 

1468

00:41:34,325 --> 00:41:36,560

It is the worst as well.

 

1469

00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,761

I guess we're not getting paid for that.

 

1470

00:41:37,761 --> 00:41:38,295

One was.

 

1471

00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:40,431

No answer.

 

1472

00:41:40,431 --> 00:41:40,931

And stepped

 

1473

00:41:40,931 --> 00:41:43,300

in and took care of the whole thing.

 

1474

00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:44,034

They just yeah.

 

1475

00:41:44,034 --> 00:41:46,203

They our insurance did the whole thing.

 

1476

00:41:46,203 --> 00:41:47,071

It was,

 

1477

00:41:47,471 --> 00:41:47,705

you know,

 

1478

00:41:47,705 --> 00:41:52,276

I called that guy down in Florida.

 

1479

00:41:52,276 --> 00:41:53,978

He actually was a former drummer

 

1480

00:41:53,978 --> 00:41:55,779

of Bryan Adams.

 

1481

00:41:55,779 --> 00:41:56,480

Right.

 

1482

00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:57,214

So he had

 

1483

00:41:57,214 --> 00:41:59,116

he was a really, really good guy.

 

1484

00:41:59,116 --> 00:42:01,352

They he he says Ken, exactly.

 

1485

00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:03,354

This happened. I get it. I get it.

 

1486

00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:04,755

This is you know,

 

1487

00:42:04,755 --> 00:42:06,991

I don't like it, but I get it.

 

1488

00:42:06,991 --> 00:42:09,226

So and he was really good about it.

 

1489

00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:11,028

I just told him, I said, you know, a

 

1490

00:42:11,028 --> 00:42:12,096

whole bunch of multiples.

 

1491

00:42:12,096 --> 00:42:12,696

One is

 

1492

00:42:12,696 --> 00:42:14,398

if the basement wasn't full of water,

 

1493

00:42:14,398 --> 00:42:14,732

first of all,

 

1494

00:42:14,732 --> 00:42:15,933

we hadn't hit the water line.

 

1495

00:42:15,933 --> 00:42:17,167

The basement wasn't

 

1496

00:42:17,668 --> 00:42:18,936

full of furniture.

 

1497

00:42:18,936 --> 00:42:20,471

If the concrete wasn't overtop of

 

1498

00:42:20,471 --> 00:42:21,405

the water shut off.

 

1499

00:42:21,405 --> 00:42:23,674

If they just one, two, three, four,

 

1500

00:42:24,241 --> 00:42:26,343

and yeah, it hits it.

 

1501

00:42:26,343 --> 00:42:27,344

All of a sudden, you

 

1502

00:42:28,445 --> 00:42:30,447

you're swallowing it.

 

1503

00:42:30,447 --> 00:42:32,116

But it's not that

 

1504

00:42:32,116 --> 00:42:34,051

Pete and I had the almost same

 

1505

00:42:34,051 --> 00:42:35,452

thing happened to us.

 

1506

00:42:35,452 --> 00:42:36,720

We nicked a water line

 

1507

00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,689

going through a refrigerator.

 

1508

00:42:38,689 --> 00:42:41,225

So we go downstairs to turn it off.

 

1509

00:42:41,225 --> 00:42:43,961

But a contractor, like a month

 

1510

00:42:43,961 --> 00:42:45,362

before we get in there,

 

1511

00:42:45,362 --> 00:42:47,765

had finished the basement.

 

1512

00:42:47,765 --> 00:42:48,866

So they put sheetrock

 

1513

00:42:48,866 --> 00:42:49,733

on the whole ceiling.

 

1514

00:42:49,733 --> 00:42:51,201

Everything was completely covered.

 

1515

00:42:51,201 --> 00:42:53,671

So we couldn't find the water.

 

1516

00:42:53,671 --> 00:42:55,239

We had to call the fire department.

 

1517

00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,840

And they came, turned it off.

 

1518

00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,276

They found the place outside to turn off.

 

1519

00:42:59,276 --> 00:43:01,712

But yeah, I mean,

 

1520

00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:04,515

I'm not I bet it was less than an hour

 

1521

00:43:05,215 --> 00:43:07,351

before they turned the water off, but

 

1522

00:43:07,351 --> 00:43:08,018

I couldn't

 

1523

00:43:08,018 --> 00:43:09,420

believe the amount of water

 

1524

00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:11,855

that was in that house in that one hour.

 

1525

00:43:11,855 --> 00:43:13,891

I mean, it was just brutal.

 

1526

00:43:14,825 --> 00:43:15,559

You know,

 

1527

00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,596

one time we were

 

1528

00:43:18,829 --> 00:43:21,565

and we did this job for this guy,

 

1529

00:43:21,699 --> 00:43:22,333

and we

 

1530

00:43:22,333 --> 00:43:23,167

we sanded and finished

 

1531

00:43:23,167 --> 00:43:24,034

this whole main floor

 

1532

00:43:24,034 --> 00:43:25,636

of his bungalow house.

 

1533

00:43:25,636 --> 00:43:27,304

And he says, I don't

 

1534

00:43:27,304 --> 00:43:29,940

I don't really care about anything here,

 

1535

00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:31,475

he says, except for one thing.

 

1536

00:43:31,475 --> 00:43:33,711

And he holds up this team Canada jersey

 

1537

00:43:34,211 --> 00:43:34,778

that's signed

 

1538

00:43:34,778 --> 00:43:38,349

by every hockey player in Team Canada.

 

1539

00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:39,383

What year?

 

1540

00:43:39,483 --> 00:43:41,051

I don't well,

 

1541

00:43:41,051 --> 00:43:44,321

this would have been about 98, 99.

 

1542

00:43:44,321 --> 00:43:46,824

So whatever was just around

 

1543

00:43:46,824 --> 00:43:48,058

that timing

 

1544

00:43:48,058 --> 00:43:50,027

could have been 2000 in there.

 

1545

00:43:50,027 --> 00:43:51,362

So anyways, he's

 

1546

00:43:51,362 --> 00:43:52,062

got this jersey

 

1547

00:43:52,062 --> 00:43:53,731

with every player's signature.

 

1548

00:43:53,731 --> 00:43:54,632

He says,

 

1549

00:43:55,366 --> 00:43:56,834

I just don't want this.

 

1550

00:43:56,834 --> 00:43:57,935

He had to show me this jersey.

 

1551

00:43:57,935 --> 00:43:59,003

I don't want this jersey here.

 

1552

00:43:59,003 --> 00:44:00,671

Is that okay? No problem.

 

1553

00:44:00,671 --> 00:44:02,272

So here we go in the sand.

 

1554

00:44:02,272 --> 00:44:03,474

The whole main floor was

 

1555

00:44:03,474 --> 00:44:04,508

he had all the furniture

 

1556

00:44:04,508 --> 00:44:05,709

cleaned out, everything cleaned out,

 

1557

00:44:05,709 --> 00:44:06,377

ready to go.

 

1558

00:44:06,377 --> 00:44:06,810

We re

 

1559

00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:07,711

sat in and finished a

 

1560

00:44:07,711 --> 00:44:09,913

whole main floor and

 

1561

00:44:10,881 --> 00:44:11,582

he come into the

 

1562

00:44:11,582 --> 00:44:13,350

shop the next day after we're done

 

1563

00:44:13,350 --> 00:44:14,785

and I thought he's going to kill us.

 

1564

00:44:14,785 --> 00:44:16,120

He was so mad.

 

1565

00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,055

He was five feet high and climbing.

 

1566

00:44:18,055 --> 00:44:20,991

He was just below and holding this jersey

 

1567

00:44:21,959 --> 00:44:22,593

and that was back

 

1568

00:44:22,593 --> 00:44:24,762

when you use oil based finishes and

 

1569

00:44:24,762 --> 00:44:26,063

and he hung that jersey

 

1570

00:44:26,063 --> 00:44:27,531

in the middle of that basement

 

1571

00:44:27,531 --> 00:44:28,899

so it wouldn't get and down.

 

1572

00:44:28,899 --> 00:44:30,601

And, you know, all of us

 

1573

00:44:30,601 --> 00:44:31,935

guys had done it a little bit

 

1574

00:44:31,935 --> 00:44:33,237

extra finish at the front door.

 

1575

00:44:33,237 --> 00:44:35,339

You just drop it into the hot air

 

1576

00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:36,874

vent and down it goes.

 

1577

00:44:36,874 --> 00:44:38,776

And it hit the seam in that hot air

 

1578

00:44:38,776 --> 00:44:39,677

vent and dripped

 

1579

00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:40,544

out of the bottom of there

 

1580

00:44:40,544 --> 00:44:42,680

and all and right underneath it.

 

1581

00:44:44,381 --> 00:44:46,817

And it went down to his jersey

 

1582

00:44:47,117 --> 00:44:48,519

and run down and hardened

 

1583

00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:49,586

about 4 to 4

 

1584

00:44:49,586 --> 00:44:50,754

inches off the bottom of that.

 

1585

00:44:51,889 --> 00:44:53,691

And it wrecked the jersey.

 

1586

00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:54,425

And like,

 

1587

00:44:54,425 --> 00:44:56,160

what is the chances

 

1588

00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,128

of that whole basement?

 

1589

00:44:58,128 --> 00:44:59,630

He hung right under.

 

1590

00:44:59,630 --> 00:45:02,633

And I'm like, oh, man, we're dead.

 

1591

00:45:02,966 --> 00:45:05,402

Horrible. Oh, my gosh.

 

1592

00:45:05,402 --> 00:45:06,537

I know.

 

1593

00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:08,706

That creates some crazy stuff. Happens.

 

1594

00:45:08,772 --> 00:45:10,407

It's stories like that.

 

1595

00:45:10,407 --> 00:45:11,442

That's why you

 

1596

00:45:11,442 --> 00:45:12,576

you keep all the hangers

 

1597

00:45:12,576 --> 00:45:13,877

face in the same direction

 

1598

00:45:13,877 --> 00:45:16,080

and in your closet

 

1599

00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,981

if you got to get out in a hurry.

 

1600

00:45:17,981 --> 00:45:19,650

I had one of my guys go, this is

 

1601

00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:20,884

this is quite a few years ago back

 

1602

00:45:20,884 --> 00:45:22,519

when back when your oil.

 

1603

00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:23,721

But that's one thing

 

1604

00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,756

I really really like about the water base

 

1605

00:45:25,756 --> 00:45:26,890

is you don't get the

 

1606

00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,459

you don't get the internal combustion

 

1607

00:45:28,459 --> 00:45:29,760

in the sandbags anymore.

 

1608

00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,162

Again, I think I've lost three vans.

 

1609

00:45:32,162 --> 00:45:34,531

I've, we've, we've lost a few houses. We.

 

1610

00:45:34,531 --> 00:45:36,033

Yeah, we've had some

 

1611

00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:37,801

but we're working in an area.

 

1612

00:45:37,801 --> 00:45:39,737

I'm not going to say the area in case

 

1613

00:45:39,737 --> 00:45:41,972

they figured it out looking.

 

1614

00:45:41,972 --> 00:45:42,573

Yeah.

 

1615

00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:43,574

But you know one of my guys

 

1616

00:45:43,574 --> 00:45:44,508

shows up at the shop

 

1617

00:45:44,508 --> 00:45:45,943

a car after seven in the morning and

 

1618

00:45:45,943 --> 00:45:47,144

and I'm sitting at my desk

 

1619

00:45:47,144 --> 00:45:47,611

and he comes

 

1620

00:45:47,611 --> 00:45:49,847

in, his eyes are like saucers.

 

1621

00:45:50,114 --> 00:45:51,582

I says, What are you doing, Kevin?

 

1622

00:45:53,150 --> 00:45:53,383

And he

 

1623

00:45:53,383 --> 00:45:56,620

says, I need I need to talk to you.

 

1624

00:45:57,187 --> 00:45:58,388

I says, What's going on?

 

1625

00:45:58,388 --> 00:45:59,189

You're supposed to be

 

1626

00:45:59,189 --> 00:46:01,258

putting a last coat on that floor.

 

1627

00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:02,025

He says,

 

1628

00:46:02,993 --> 00:46:06,130

There's no holster, no more.

 

1629

00:46:06,130 --> 00:46:06,663

Right?

 

1630

00:46:06,997 --> 00:46:09,166

He says, I pulled out of the street

 

1631

00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:11,001

and there was nothing but fire

 

1632

00:46:11,001 --> 00:46:13,837

trucks and police cars.

 

1633

00:46:13,837 --> 00:46:15,272

So what happened?

 

1634

00:46:15,606 --> 00:46:16,440

I don't know.

 

1635

00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,442

I says you left your sandbags

 

1636

00:46:18,442 --> 00:46:20,144

in that house, didn't you?

 

1637

00:46:20,144 --> 00:46:21,745

Yeah, he says.

 

1638

00:46:21,745 --> 00:46:23,113

I left him at the front entry.

 

1639

00:46:23,113 --> 00:46:24,414

Just on the inside of the door.

 

1640

00:46:24,414 --> 00:46:26,216

In the front entry.

 

1641

00:46:26,216 --> 00:46:27,417

And I says,

 

1642

00:46:28,585 --> 00:46:29,987

You got all your equipment out of there?

 

1643

00:46:29,987 --> 00:46:31,455

Yeah, everything is out.

 

1644

00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:33,991

I said, Well, then shut up and don't step

 

1645

00:46:35,726 --> 00:46:37,394

anymore. We met.

 

1646

00:46:37,394 --> 00:46:39,196

We even got paid for the job.

 

1647

00:46:39,196 --> 00:46:42,032

But we never, we never, nobody

 

1648

00:46:42,065 --> 00:46:45,202

ever, ever figured out that.

 

1649

00:46:45,202 --> 00:46:47,371

That is why that house burned. Nobody.

 

1650

00:46:47,371 --> 00:46:49,640

I never heard another thing about it.

 

1651

00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,942

You know, I got.

 

1652

00:46:51,942 --> 00:46:53,177

In a million years, you

 

1653

00:46:53,177 --> 00:46:54,812

and it would never happen again.

 

1654

00:46:54,812 --> 00:46:56,980

No, no, no, no, no.

 

1655

00:46:57,014 --> 00:46:58,215

Oh, that's too funny.

 

1656

00:46:58,215 --> 00:47:00,250

Yeah, but, like,

 

1657

00:47:00,250 --> 00:47:01,552

when you rotate as much work

 

1658

00:47:01,552 --> 00:47:02,986

as we rotated it.

 

1659

00:47:02,986 --> 00:47:04,788

Yeah, stuff happens, right?

 

1660

00:47:04,788 --> 00:47:05,422

Yeah.

 

1661

00:47:05,422 --> 00:47:07,858

You, you're in and out of a lot of,

 

1662

00:47:08,192 --> 00:47:10,661

a lot of situations. Well

 

1663

00:47:12,229 --> 00:47:13,297

and that's a good place to leave.

 

1664

00:47:13,297 --> 00:47:15,165

It is. We're running up on the hour.

 

1665

00:47:15,165 --> 00:47:16,767

A lot of a lot of cautionary tales

 

1666

00:47:16,767 --> 00:47:18,001

there, a lot of experience.

 

1667

00:47:18,001 --> 00:47:19,203

And I love the stories, man.

 

1668

00:47:19,203 --> 00:47:22,039

Everybody's got I mean, the water story.

 

1669

00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:23,106

I was getting anxious

 

1670

00:47:23,106 --> 00:47:24,141

as you were telling it,

 

1671

00:47:24,141 --> 00:47:26,210

because I can picture myself

 

1672

00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:27,778

that same situation.

 

1673

00:47:27,778 --> 00:47:29,313

It's everybody's nightmare.

 

1674

00:47:29,313 --> 00:47:30,047

Yeah,

 

1675

00:47:30,814 --> 00:47:33,050

but I really thank you for coming on.

 

1676

00:47:33,050 --> 00:47:34,651

I actually I'd love to have you

 

1677

00:47:34,651 --> 00:47:36,153

come on again as a guest sometime.

 

1678

00:47:36,153 --> 00:47:36,653

I mean,

 

1679

00:47:36,653 --> 00:47:37,621

you've got a lot of knowledge

 

1680

00:47:37,621 --> 00:47:38,288

and experience

 

1681

00:47:38,288 --> 00:47:39,389

and I appreciate you sharing

 

1682

00:47:39,389 --> 00:47:39,957

with everybody.

 

1683

00:47:39,957 --> 00:47:40,858

And again,

 

1684

00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:42,759

we're not trying to scare anybody off,

 

1685

00:47:42,759 --> 00:47:43,794

but just, you know,

 

1686

00:47:43,794 --> 00:47:44,528

I think you're better off

 

1687

00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:46,763

going into anything. Eyes wide open.

 

1688

00:47:46,763 --> 00:47:49,233

No, you're absolutely right.

 

1689

00:47:49,233 --> 00:47:50,400

And the last thing we want to do

 

1690

00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,468

is not have no reach out.

 

1691

00:47:51,468 --> 00:47:52,436

Oh, that's right.

 

1692

00:47:52,436 --> 00:47:52,970

Yeah.

 

1693

00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:53,403

So we're not

 

1694

00:47:53,403 --> 00:47:55,072

we're not trying to discourage you,

 

1695

00:47:55,072 --> 00:47:57,074

too, but but but you know,

 

1696

00:47:58,275 --> 00:47:59,142

hey, we're only a

 

1697

00:47:59,142 --> 00:48:01,111

phone call away, too, right?

 

1698

00:48:01,111 --> 00:48:02,613

Just pick up the phone.

 

1699

00:48:02,613 --> 00:48:04,448

Hey, Ken, we got this idea or.

 

1700

00:48:04,448 --> 00:48:06,350

Hey, but we're whoever, right?

 

1701

00:48:06,350 --> 00:48:08,285

We've we've what's the.

 

1702

00:48:08,285 --> 00:48:09,052

What do you think? What.

 

1703

00:48:09,052 --> 00:48:10,520

Let's look at numbers on the.

 

1704

00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,122

I've sat across a lot of coffee

 

1705

00:48:12,122 --> 00:48:14,524

shop tables and

 

1706

00:48:14,524 --> 00:48:16,260

and I'm not changing their idea,

 

1707

00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:16,727

their plan.

 

1708

00:48:16,727 --> 00:48:18,695

I'm just saying this is what it is.

 

1709

00:48:18,695 --> 00:48:19,563

This is where it's at.

 

1710

00:48:19,563 --> 00:48:21,298

This is what I can tell you.

 

1711

00:48:21,298 --> 00:48:22,799

If I wasn't manufacturing,

 

1712

00:48:22,799 --> 00:48:24,968

there's not a chance in heck

 

1713

00:48:24,968 --> 00:48:26,036

I'd have a showroom.

 

1714

00:48:26,036 --> 00:48:27,704

There's no way

 

1715

00:48:27,704 --> 00:48:29,373

my our margins are good enough

 

1716

00:48:29,373 --> 00:48:30,107

because we're cutting out

 

1717

00:48:30,107 --> 00:48:31,174

all the middlemen

 

1718

00:48:31,174 --> 00:48:32,209

and the guy across

 

1719

00:48:32,209 --> 00:48:34,411

the road is not selling what I got.

 

1720

00:48:34,411 --> 00:48:34,912

Yeah,

 

1721

00:48:35,012 --> 00:48:36,346

and that's the only reason

 

1722

00:48:36,346 --> 00:48:37,948

that I have showrooms.

 

1723

00:48:37,948 --> 00:48:39,316

Interesting.

 

1724

00:48:39,483 --> 00:48:41,919

Well, hey, can I again,

 

1725

00:48:42,653 --> 00:48:43,620

thank you very much.

 

1726

00:48:43,620 --> 00:48:46,823

It's been a great hour of discussion,

 

1727

00:48:46,823 --> 00:48:48,558

and I think it'll help a lot of guys out

 

1728

00:48:48,558 --> 00:48:49,493

and appreciate it.

 

1729

00:48:49,493 --> 00:48:50,060

If you don't mind,

 

1730

00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:51,695

I might give you a shot

 

1731

00:48:51,695 --> 00:48:52,729

one day to come back on.

 

1732

00:48:52,729 --> 00:48:53,830

And and there's I'm sure

 

1733

00:48:53,830 --> 00:48:55,299

there's a whole lot of years,

 

1734

00:48:55,299 --> 00:48:56,233

years experience

 

1735

00:48:56,233 --> 00:48:58,068

blessing I want to talk about

 

1736

00:48:58,068 --> 00:48:59,403

down the road

 

1737

00:48:59,469 --> 00:49:01,371

Canada and bears up there

 

1738

00:49:01,371 --> 00:49:03,473

and all kinds of other stuff.

 

1739

00:49:04,207 --> 00:49:05,008

We have our bears.

 

1740

00:49:05,008 --> 00:49:06,310

And you guys got your alligators?

 

1741

00:49:06,310 --> 00:49:07,277

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

1742

00:49:08,578 --> 00:49:09,012

Is funny.

 

1743

00:49:09,012 --> 00:49:10,280

I go to Florida and they say,

 

1744

00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,315

where are you from?

 

1745

00:49:11,315 --> 00:49:13,250

Wow. Grizzly bears.

 

1746

00:49:13,250 --> 00:49:15,319

I'm say, where are you from? Florida.

 

1747

00:49:15,319 --> 00:49:16,086

Wow.

 

1748

00:49:16,086 --> 00:49:19,222

Alligators.

 

1749

00:49:19,222 --> 00:49:20,590

There you go.

 

1750

00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:21,625

All right.

 

1751

00:49:21,625 --> 00:49:23,560

Good stuff. Good stuff.

 

1752

00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,995

This has been another episode

 

1753

00:49:24,995 --> 00:49:26,530

of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob

 

1754

00:49:26,530 --> 00:49:29,533

and Ken Peterson with what his flaws.

 

1755

00:49:29,533 --> 00:49:31,335

And please do stay tuned

 

1756

00:49:31,335 --> 00:49:40,043

for another episode.