On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Relationships with guests Sprigg Lynn and Steve Belrose

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob are joined by guests Sprigg Lynn and Steve Belrose to discuss the importance of relationships. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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Hello.

 

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Welcome to another

 

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episode of On the Floor

 

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with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne Highlander,

 

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National Sales Manager

 

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for Bona Adhesives.

 

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And I'm Rob Johnson from Bona Training.

 

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Well, ladies and gentlemen,

 

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this is the first

 

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we have two guests with us today.

 

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One is Sprigg Lynn,

 

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to a lot of people, no.

 

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And the other guy is

 

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a gentleman named Steve.

 

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And I have no idea

 

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any background information about Steve.

 

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I don't know who he is,

 

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where he's from, what he does

 

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in his life.

 

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This is this going to be like

 

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a game show?

 

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Do we have to guess

 

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who Steve is and what he does?

 

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It kind of sounds that way.

 

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Steve, when you tell. Us

 

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who you are.

 

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In guessing is good.

 

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I've been

 

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around and

 

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I know I've met you guys before

 

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at different shows.

 

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I started

 

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doing wooden floors in 1989 and

 

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pretty early on attended some stuff.

 

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It was a little loose,

 

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but I would say that it was training.

 

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It was a couple of day

 

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class and I actually bought

 

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some equipment at that class

 

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and then I've been doing it ever since.

 

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And we're

 

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we're the best little company

 

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that you've never heard of.

 

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And.

 

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All right.

 

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We don't

 

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we don't advertise and we try.

 

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And do

 

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you, you know, really great stuff.

 

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And, you know, that's kind of.

 

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Where you located at, Steve.

 

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We're in Minneapolis suburb

 

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called Hopkins.

 

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Okay.

 

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Well, welcome to the podcast.

 

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We're glad you're here.

 

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Thanks for having me.

 

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Yes.

 

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And Sprague,

 

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you wanted to introduce yourself.

 

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I mean, now

 

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you probably do a better job than I will

 

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or Rob, for sure. Well,

 

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my name is Sprague Lynn.

 

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I'm with Universal Flaws, Inc..

 

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And Washington, D.C..

 

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We're a

 

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family owned and operated company

 

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for approximately 70 years.

 

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And we're into wood floors

 

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just like everybody's

 

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that's listening to this podcast.

 

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Let me tell you something about Steve.

 

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Steve won't tell you, but

 

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that guy

 

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is a guru when it comes to colors.

 

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He's fantastic with colors.

 

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He can re-engineer reverse engineer.

 

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He can figure out three,

 

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three, four

 

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different ways to reproduce that color.

 

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And it's amazing.

 

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And that's how I heard about it.

 

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So I hunted him down and

 

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and started a good relationship with him.

 

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Well, that's a good.

 

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Let's see.

 

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I started asking.

 

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I started stalking Sprague

 

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and asking him questions

 

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about wax and

 

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what's old is

 

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what's old is new

 

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everybody thing.

 

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So we're always

 

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after the newest thing and

 

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and I know you guys

 

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you work for bone

 

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and bone has been on the cutting edge

 

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for years and years and years

 

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as long as I've been a contractor.

 

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But I'm not afraid to look back

 

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and say, what did they used to do?

 

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And I would pester every single time

 

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I waxed the floor.

 

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Even when I knew all the answers,

 

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I always called Sprague.

 

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So I've always been a fan of Universal,

 

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and I've always been a fan of sprigs and

 

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no matter what he says, you know, he's

 

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great guy. Awesome.

 

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Well,

 

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that's kind of what this topic is

 

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going to be about today is relationships.

 

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And I don't want to get away

 

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from from this podcast

 

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without delving

 

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a little bit more into colors with you,

 

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because I think that's always

 

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an interesting topic,

 

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and especially where Sprigg is concerned,

 

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where I mean, he's working on some

 

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some of the oldest, most prestigious

 

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buildings in America.

 

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When I imagine

 

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there's a lot of reverse

 

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engineering being done in discovery and

 

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what have you to find out

 

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where it started

 

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and what you need to do

 

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to get back to that color.

 

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So

 

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yeah,

 

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I think that'll be an interesting too.

 

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So I'm glad you're on that.

 

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That will be a good topic

 

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to talk about as well.

 

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Great.

 

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Wayne,

 

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I tell you one thing that Steve does,

 

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and he has

 

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got me

 

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got my attention,

 

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which I do a lot more, is

 

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he takes detailed

 

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notes of everything he does

 

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when he's trying to create something

 

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or reverse engineer.

 

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And it is

 

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so valuable to go back to those notes.

 

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It's absolutely incredible.

 

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I brought him to the White House

 

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because they wanted us to reproduce

 

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a particular four particular color

 

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sheen the whole nine yards

 

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without using

 

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what what was used

 

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because it had a lot of smell to it.

 

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They had some issues,

 

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but they wanted to reproduce it.

 

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So we were down in the carpentry shop.

 

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The Steve came in

 

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and we had to run

 

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all the way down the core of the shop.

 

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Your samples

 

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run all the way up to the East Room

 

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ballroom in the White House,

 

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go back down.

 

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And I think he checked his phone.

 

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At the end of the day,

 

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he walked

 

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seven miles

 

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a day

 

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up and down the dial and this color.

 

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But but I'm telling you, he'll write down

 

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and I'll forget

 

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15 minutes later

 

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and I'll say,

 

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Steve, what would you do here?

 

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And he has it all detailed

 

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out is absolutely incredible.

 

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Well, that's interesting.

 

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And

 

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I say it again, Steve.

 

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It's a it's a hard lesson to learn

 

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when you work really hard on something.

 

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And whether that's a relationship

 

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or a bed or a color or a takeoff or,

 

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you know, tuning up your machine, if you

 

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if you don't if you don't if you're if

 

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I'm

 

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I'm scattered.

 

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I'm all over the place.

 

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And if I don't make a note

 

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and it might be cryptic, but

 

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if I don't make a note, then, then,

 

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then I get really excited

 

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when I hit that color

 

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or I tune the machine up or I

 

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and successful reaching someone

 

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that I really want to reach in

 

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and work for. Right.

 

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But if I can't refer back to the notes

 

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then then all that work is

 

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is in jeopardy.

 

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I could lose that color

 

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if I don't know how to reproduce it

 

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and not everybody understands that

 

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some of the things we use to make a color

 

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art are either positive or

 

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negative reactive

 

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process is

 

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if you if you don't know

 

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what the

 

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what it is that you're using, it's

 

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it's a it's a it's a real

 

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frustrating thing

 

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to not be able to reproduce it.

 

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So I got a couple comments about that.

 

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One is Rob

 

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frequently makes fun of me

 

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because I'm a huge note

 

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taker and I have a

 

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I have a notebook that goes back

 

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over 20 years and his call is

 

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on the front pages.

 

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As Stan says,

 

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Stan is the guy that I used to work for.

 

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And whenever I learned anything, I would

 

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I would put it in that book.

 

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And then if I learned

 

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an installation technique that helped out

 

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write that down any little thing,

 

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I learned any tips along

 

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the way I would write down

 

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and I would be

 

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able to refer back to them.

 

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And, and then it got even so on jobs.

 

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If I did a certain thing on a job

 

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or staying color

 

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or whatever,

 

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I'd always put it in my notes.

 

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So I, you and I are kind of

 

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similar in that regard.

 

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You two are a great company.

 

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Wayne Uh, George Washington, Thomas

 

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Jefferson would do the same

 

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about their crops.

 

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About everything you see, right? Yeah.

 

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Right, yeah, right.

 

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Right there.

 

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Yeah, I can Highlander Washington

 

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definitely right up there with that.

 

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Thanks Sprague

 

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you can you used anybody else,

 

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you know Abbott and Costello

 

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something like that. You had to go with.

 

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Them.

 

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As president first.

 

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Yeah. Yeah. The legend.

 

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Well.

 

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You were talking, but go ahead.

 

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No, I was going to say.

 

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Well, well, we got

 

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you know,

 

267

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we're talking about color

 

268

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and we have a color expert on here.

 

269

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I'm going to throw it out there

 

270

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that you guys should both be

 

271

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interested in this product.

 

272

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We just came out with bone

 

273

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read out

 

274

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that we'll take the red out of

 

275

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out of red oak

 

276

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instead of bleaching it.

 

277

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You know what

 

278

00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:04,677

we just had a meeting about this way

 

279

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and we said, look, we're white.

 

280

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Oak is getting a little difficult to get.

 

281

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So a lot of our suppliers today,

 

282

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we have a lot of red Oak.

 

283

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And so what we're making is the sample

 

284

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White Oak next to Red Oak

 

285

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with your product on their natural

 

286

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and then with a light stain

 

287

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and with a dark state.

 

288

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And I think that's fantastic.

 

289

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Can you can

 

290

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you enlighten us a little bit

 

291

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about that product?

 

292

00:09:31,037 --> 00:09:32,038

Yeah, Rob Robb,

 

293

00:09:32,038 --> 00:09:32,705

can probably go into

 

294

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a little bit more detail than I am

 

295

00:09:33,906 --> 00:09:36,108

because he said. Oh, it's huge.

 

296

00:09:36,108 --> 00:09:39,111

The last the last two nights of this week

 

297

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I've been doing color schools

 

298

00:09:41,781 --> 00:09:43,482

and we've been using the red out

 

299

00:09:43,482 --> 00:09:45,551

on the color schools.

 

300

00:09:45,551 --> 00:09:47,186

One of the things I will say about that

 

301

00:09:47,186 --> 00:09:50,723

red out is the definitely don't

 

302

00:09:50,723 --> 00:09:51,657

watch it dry,

 

303

00:09:51,657 --> 00:09:52,758

because when you start watching it

 

304

00:09:52,758 --> 00:09:55,194

dry, you're thinking, oh my God, this

 

305

00:09:55,194 --> 00:09:57,530

this stuff is not working, you know?

 

306

00:09:57,930 --> 00:09:58,230

But

 

307

00:09:59,198 --> 00:10:01,500

you do too.

 

308

00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:02,902

You know, you do two rounds of it.

 

309

00:10:02,902 --> 00:10:05,137

It's a part one and a part two.

 

310

00:10:05,137 --> 00:10:06,772

You do two rounds of that,

 

311

00:10:06,772 --> 00:10:08,641

and you really let that sit

 

312

00:10:08,641 --> 00:10:09,842

for a good 6 hours

 

313

00:10:09,842 --> 00:10:11,644

and it'll blow you away

 

314

00:10:11,644 --> 00:10:12,812

how good it looks.

 

315

00:10:12,812 --> 00:10:14,847

Because like I said, we were doing

 

316

00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:17,583

these color schools at night

 

317

00:10:17,583 --> 00:10:18,484

and you know,

 

318

00:10:18,484 --> 00:10:19,685

the first one we did,

 

319

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we were kind of staring

 

320

00:10:20,653 --> 00:10:22,521

at the red out and

 

321

00:10:22,521 --> 00:10:23,956

we're like, Oh, my God, this

 

322

00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:26,058

this stuff doesn't work, you know?

 

323

00:10:26,492 --> 00:10:27,827

And everybody standing there

 

324

00:10:27,827 --> 00:10:30,229

and then and I'm just like everybody.

 

325

00:10:30,229 --> 00:10:31,497

I'm like, Well, look at that.

 

326

00:10:31,497 --> 00:10:32,465

There's no pink there.

 

327

00:10:32,465 --> 00:10:33,566

And they're like,

 

328

00:10:33,666 --> 00:10:35,935

Yeah, I could tell there was.

 

329

00:10:35,935 --> 00:10:38,070

But we went back to that.

 

330

00:10:38,070 --> 00:10:38,738

We went back

 

331

00:10:38,738 --> 00:10:40,239

the next morning and I'm like,

 

332

00:10:40,239 --> 00:10:41,407

Okay,

 

333

00:10:41,407 --> 00:10:42,842

this is how we got to show this stuff.

 

334

00:10:42,842 --> 00:10:45,778

We have to have a panel completely done.

 

335

00:10:46,045 --> 00:10:47,647

It's cooked for a while

 

336

00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:49,749

that really it'll blow you away

 

337

00:10:49,782 --> 00:10:51,050

when you see it. Like that.

 

338

00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:53,886

So the following night,

 

339

00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,188

Halloween night, we did the same thing.

 

340

00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:58,424

How about,

 

341

00:10:58,424 --> 00:11:01,360

like, Brazilian cherry or other species?

 

342

00:11:01,727 --> 00:11:03,929

Well, last night

 

343

00:11:03,929 --> 00:11:05,998

we did a bunch of Brazilian chip

 

344

00:11:05,998 --> 00:11:08,134

samples with it, and it turns it

 

345

00:11:09,368 --> 00:11:11,070

like a medium brown.

 

346

00:11:11,070 --> 00:11:14,006

I mean, a real, real medium brown.

 

347

00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:15,207

It look really good

 

348

00:11:15,207 --> 00:11:16,976

on the Brazilian cherry.

 

349

00:11:16,976 --> 00:11:18,577

That's that's good to hear.

 

350

00:11:18,577 --> 00:11:19,712

That's fantastic.

 

351

00:11:19,712 --> 00:11:21,247

European

 

352

00:11:21,247 --> 00:11:23,449

there's some European products that,

 

353

00:11:24,216 --> 00:11:27,586

uh, used to be just, you know,

 

354

00:11:28,854 --> 00:11:31,290

known as industrial, you know,

 

355

00:11:32,324 --> 00:11:35,294

where, where you get 50

 

356

00:11:35,294 --> 00:11:39,231

train trainloads of, of Euro Oak

 

357

00:11:39,565 --> 00:11:41,333

and it's just too pink for your,

 

358

00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:43,102

for the SKUs that you're running.

 

359

00:11:43,102 --> 00:11:47,973

And, uh, and so they had to have,

 

360

00:11:47,973 --> 00:11:48,874

I mean,

 

361

00:11:49,041 --> 00:11:50,943

you're talking about million dollars

 

362

00:11:50,943 --> 00:11:52,211

worth of product there

 

363

00:11:52,211 --> 00:11:54,380

that is going in the wrong direction.

 

364

00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:55,247

And so

 

365

00:11:55,247 --> 00:11:58,451

it's a, it's a really interesting concept

 

366

00:11:58,784 --> 00:12:01,854

and it's literally, um,

 

367

00:12:03,022 --> 00:12:04,890

if you talk to any

 

368

00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:06,625

buddy who's been in the business

 

369

00:12:06,625 --> 00:12:07,760

long enough,

 

370

00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,362

there's a repair that's been done

 

371

00:12:10,796 --> 00:12:13,599

and the guy put Red Oak in

 

372

00:12:13,966 --> 00:12:16,502

and then the floor gets sanded

 

373

00:12:16,502 --> 00:12:17,903

and everybody looks at it

 

374

00:12:17,903 --> 00:12:19,572

and then they say, Well,

 

375

00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:20,973

this is the white Oak for you.

 

376

00:12:20,973 --> 00:12:21,774

Did the repair,

 

377

00:12:21,774 --> 00:12:23,776

you fingered it, you lace it in half.

 

378

00:12:23,776 --> 00:12:25,277

The job now is Red Oak.

 

379

00:12:25,277 --> 00:12:27,012

Half the job is White Oak.

 

380

00:12:27,012 --> 00:12:28,514

We've all been there

 

381

00:12:28,514 --> 00:12:30,750

and it is a real challenge

 

382

00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:31,884

and you can never change

 

383

00:12:31,884 --> 00:12:34,253

that green pattern. Right.

 

384

00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:37,757

But what is really, really interesting,

 

385

00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:40,159

if you study the Red Oak White Oak

 

386

00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,964

connection is if you look at Rift Only,

 

387

00:12:45,297 --> 00:12:46,532

which is the darling

 

388

00:12:46,532 --> 00:12:49,268

of every modern architect and designer

 

389

00:12:49,702 --> 00:12:51,937

for five years or ten years.

 

390

00:12:52,404 --> 00:12:55,141

If you look at rift only Red Oak and Rift

 

391

00:12:55,141 --> 00:12:56,609

Only White Oak,

 

392

00:12:56,609 --> 00:12:59,578

there's very little green difference.

 

393

00:12:59,578 --> 00:13:00,880

Now you manipulate that

 

394

00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,981

Red Oak rift

 

395

00:13:01,981 --> 00:13:04,283

only to look the way you want it,

 

396

00:13:05,084 --> 00:13:06,585

and you call it rift only.

 

397

00:13:06,585 --> 00:13:09,121

Oak. Mm hmm.

 

398

00:13:09,121 --> 00:13:11,023

You got now you're three bucks

 

399

00:13:11,023 --> 00:13:13,225

because the Red Oak Rift

 

400

00:13:13,225 --> 00:13:16,195

is significantly less

 

401

00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:19,398

per board foot than the than the

 

402

00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:21,167

than the rift only.

 

403

00:13:21,167 --> 00:13:23,002

And more readily available.

 

404

00:13:23,002 --> 00:13:24,370

And more. Readily, more readily.

 

405

00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:25,905

Yeah, yeah.

 

406

00:13:25,905 --> 00:13:27,740

That's easier now

 

407

00:13:27,740 --> 00:13:30,309

that you're interested in red oak

 

408

00:13:30,676 --> 00:13:31,443

and Red Oak

 

409

00:13:31,443 --> 00:13:34,980

has really taken a beating in the

 

410

00:13:35,447 --> 00:13:39,385

in the market right now.

 

411

00:13:39,385 --> 00:13:43,122

So there is Red Oak out there and no one

 

412

00:13:43,122 --> 00:13:44,857

what to do with it

 

413

00:13:44,857 --> 00:13:48,060

is, is going to give you a leg up

 

414

00:13:48,327 --> 00:13:50,663

in a big way.

 

415

00:13:50,663 --> 00:13:52,231

You know, another thing

 

416

00:13:52,231 --> 00:13:53,532

that when you guys

 

417

00:13:53,532 --> 00:13:55,000

are talking about your project

 

418

00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,036

and having the odor.

 

419

00:13:57,436 --> 00:13:59,672

Back in the eighties peak night,

 

420

00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:01,207

we did tons of white floors

 

421

00:14:01,207 --> 00:14:02,374

and everything we would do

 

422

00:14:02,374 --> 00:14:04,910

would be one or two coats of bleach.

 

423

00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:05,644

And, boy,

 

424

00:14:05,644 --> 00:14:07,213

that smell would just

 

425

00:14:07,213 --> 00:14:09,582

knock everybody out of the house.

 

426

00:14:09,582 --> 00:14:12,051

That was what really shocked me

 

427

00:14:12,051 --> 00:14:13,786

about the red out was

 

428

00:14:13,786 --> 00:14:16,355

there is absolutely no odor to that.

 

429

00:14:16,355 --> 00:14:18,490

I mean, no smell at all.

 

430

00:14:19,091 --> 00:14:22,228

So I think a lot of situations.

 

431

00:14:23,229 --> 00:14:24,964

I can't wait to play with that.

 

432

00:14:24,964 --> 00:14:28,234

I am really excited to see that photo.

 

433

00:14:29,735 --> 00:14:30,569

What is it called?

 

434

00:14:30,569 --> 00:14:32,771

Red Oak. Red. Red out. Yep.

 

435

00:14:33,105 --> 00:14:33,739

Yeah, yeah.

 

436

00:14:33,739 --> 00:14:34,273

I'll tell you,

 

437

00:14:34,273 --> 00:14:34,974

when you put part

 

438

00:14:34,974 --> 00:14:36,909

one on the floor,

 

439

00:14:36,909 --> 00:14:38,310

that's going to blow your mind.

 

440

00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:40,646

I mean, it does things to that floor

 

441

00:14:40,646 --> 00:14:42,882

that it it was insane.

 

442

00:14:42,915 --> 00:14:44,683

It was crazy.

 

443

00:14:44,683 --> 00:14:45,618

But yeah,

 

444

00:14:45,618 --> 00:14:47,019

very simple to use, too,

 

445

00:14:47,019 --> 00:14:49,622

if you haven't used it yet.

 

446

00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:51,957

It goes down 500 feet a gallon goes down

 

447

00:14:51,957 --> 00:14:52,558

very thin.

 

448

00:14:52,558 --> 00:14:54,093

You just roll it on

 

449

00:14:54,093 --> 00:14:56,161

and you let the part one

 

450

00:14:56,161 --> 00:14:58,631

sit for about 15 minutes,

 

451

00:14:59,031 --> 00:15:01,734

you know, 15, 20 minutes, tops,

 

452

00:15:01,734 --> 00:15:04,470

and then roll the part to right over it,

 

453

00:15:04,770 --> 00:15:06,372

even if it's still a little wet,

 

454

00:15:06,372 --> 00:15:08,407

don't worry about it.

 

455

00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,309

You'll still get good reaction there.

 

456

00:15:10,309 --> 00:15:11,577

So you don't want to let. That.

 

457

00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:15,781

One run dry.

 

458

00:15:15,781 --> 00:15:19,752

You know what it kind of smells like?

 

459

00:15:19,752 --> 00:15:20,653

What's that.

 

460

00:15:21,453 --> 00:15:22,855

Team spirit?

 

461

00:15:23,322 --> 00:15:24,823

No, it smells like money.

 

462

00:15:24,823 --> 00:15:25,291

That's what it's.

 

463

00:15:25,291 --> 00:15:26,592

Supposed to look like.

 

464

00:15:26,592 --> 00:15:27,927

Because you're going to make

 

465

00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:29,261

money is a win win.

 

466

00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:30,562

Because a lot of these builders,

 

467

00:15:30,562 --> 00:15:32,131

even if you're putting their white oak,

 

468

00:15:32,131 --> 00:15:34,700

they got red oak stairs 95% of the time.

 

469

00:15:35,167 --> 00:15:36,235

They have to deal with it

 

470

00:15:36,235 --> 00:15:37,436

one way or another.

 

471

00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:39,605

And you're going to have the solution

 

472

00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:41,073

if you do your due diligence

 

473

00:15:41,073 --> 00:15:42,608

with all your samples

 

474

00:15:42,608 --> 00:15:44,410

and get finished products

 

475

00:15:44,410 --> 00:15:46,545

like Rob was talking about samples.

 

476

00:15:46,545 --> 00:15:46,979

But

 

477

00:15:48,147 --> 00:15:49,214

what relation ships are

 

478

00:15:49,214 --> 00:15:50,883

we going to talk about there, Mr.

 

479

00:15:50,883 --> 00:15:51,283

Wayne?

 

480

00:15:51,283 --> 00:15:53,919

Better distributor or before you?

 

481

00:15:54,086 --> 00:15:56,455

I've been very patient.

 

482

00:15:56,455 --> 00:15:57,923

Yeah. You know what, guys?

 

483

00:15:57,923 --> 00:15:58,891

Let's see how to do that.

 

484

00:15:58,891 --> 00:15:59,425

Wait a minute.

 

485

00:15:59,425 --> 00:16:01,226

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm.

 

486

00:16:01,226 --> 00:16:02,895

I'm cutting in here.

 

487

00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:05,364

This is this is painful for way.

 

488

00:16:05,764 --> 00:16:07,399

We've got about 15 minutes.

 

489

00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:09,234

And he has not been able to talk.

 

490

00:16:09,234 --> 00:16:11,971

So everybody just shut down your mikes

 

491

00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:13,105

and let them go.

 

492

00:16:13,105 --> 00:16:14,073

Go ahead, buddy.

 

493

00:16:14,073 --> 00:16:14,907

So are you.

 

494

00:16:14,907 --> 00:16:17,142

Boy, we're really, really this.

 

495

00:16:17,142 --> 00:16:19,078

You're going to love this, Rob

 

496

00:16:19,078 --> 00:16:19,945

Steve

 

497

00:16:19,945 --> 00:16:20,579

that's an

 

498

00:16:20,579 --> 00:16:21,480

that you were talking about

 

499

00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,915

where guys have accidentally tooth

 

500

00:16:22,915 --> 00:16:24,917

in red oak on to a white oak floor

 

501

00:16:25,684 --> 00:16:26,385

Rob has done it

 

502

00:16:26,385 --> 00:16:27,586

so much that we were almost

 

503

00:16:27,586 --> 00:16:28,587

going to call this Rob out.

 

504

00:16:30,022 --> 00:16:30,422

Oh.

 

505

00:16:30,422 --> 00:16:32,391

Oh, wow.

 

506

00:16:32,391 --> 00:16:34,493

My thanks to you.

 

507

00:16:34,493 --> 00:16:37,563

Thankfully didn't rob 15 minutes.

 

508

00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:40,065

Yeah, 15 minutes.

 

509

00:16:40,065 --> 00:16:42,368

That was great

 

510

00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:44,269

work.

 

511

00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:48,273

That was worth the wait.

 

512

00:16:48,273 --> 00:16:49,475

There you go. He didn't need us.

 

513

00:16:49,475 --> 00:16:51,510

He didn't hear a word any of us said.

 

514

00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:53,312

Now, 15 minutes.

 

515

00:16:53,312 --> 00:16:55,080

He's just been working on that joke.

 

516

00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,951

I just been waiting to get that in.

 

517

00:16:58,951 --> 00:17:01,353

Okay, so relationships and actually,

 

518

00:17:01,353 --> 00:17:03,722

this is a this is a great one right here.

 

519

00:17:03,722 --> 00:17:05,657

It even to have Steve on the right here

 

520

00:17:05,657 --> 00:17:07,726

because what you guys

 

521

00:17:07,726 --> 00:17:09,728

obviously share is a trust, right?

 

522

00:17:09,728 --> 00:17:11,196

The shared experience.

 

523

00:17:11,196 --> 00:17:13,932

And I there is just nothing

 

524

00:17:13,932 --> 00:17:15,567

like being able to bounce something off

 

525

00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:17,703

somebody else get someone else's opinion.

 

526

00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:19,171

We all have different expertize

 

527

00:17:19,171 --> 00:17:20,806

in different areas.

 

528

00:17:21,273 --> 00:17:22,041

So I think this is

 

529

00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:22,975

important to talk about

 

530

00:17:22,975 --> 00:17:24,009

and I think let's start talking

 

531

00:17:24,009 --> 00:17:26,345

about distribution,

 

532

00:17:26,345 --> 00:17:27,646

your relationship with your distributors,

 

533

00:17:27,646 --> 00:17:28,914

which I think is so important.

 

534

00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:30,883

I mean, these careers are,

 

535

00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:32,484

you know, 23 look, you're 70

 

536

00:17:32,484 --> 00:17:33,986

years in is a company

 

537

00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:35,120

that's amazing to me.

 

538

00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:36,622

I mean that's I mean, hats off, man.

 

539

00:17:36,622 --> 00:17:38,190

That's incredible.

 

540

00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:39,391

And that comes

 

541

00:17:39,391 --> 00:17:40,659

with a lot of relationships

 

542

00:17:40,659 --> 00:17:41,493

and a lot of respect.

 

543

00:17:41,493 --> 00:17:43,695

So maybe you guys can talk about

 

544

00:17:44,029 --> 00:17:44,630

how important

 

545

00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:45,497

your relationship with your is

 

546

00:17:45,497 --> 00:17:47,466

with your distribution.

 

547

00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:50,269

Well, let me start out.

 

548

00:17:50,269 --> 00:17:52,671

It's a spread with with

 

549

00:17:53,205 --> 00:17:54,740

we don't deal with one

 

550

00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:55,908

so called distributor.

 

551

00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:57,976

We deal with multiple ones.

 

552

00:17:57,976 --> 00:17:59,845

We don't put all our eggs in one basket.

 

553

00:17:59,845 --> 00:18:01,747

Even though we have great service

 

554

00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:03,849

from a lot of them,

 

555

00:18:03,849 --> 00:18:07,052

we like to deal with several of them

 

556

00:18:07,052 --> 00:18:09,455

in case something happens or

 

557

00:18:10,355 --> 00:18:11,256

we need to move on

 

558

00:18:11,256 --> 00:18:12,491

to another distributor.

 

559

00:18:12,491 --> 00:18:14,293

Everything's already set up,

 

560

00:18:14,293 --> 00:18:16,962

but we find that distributors are very,

 

561

00:18:16,962 --> 00:18:18,297

very receptive.

 

562

00:18:18,297 --> 00:18:20,499

When we ask them for training,

 

563

00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:21,733

we ask them for

 

564

00:18:21,733 --> 00:18:24,303

we want the knowledge to be filtered down

 

565

00:18:24,303 --> 00:18:26,438

sometime as we got to leapfrog

 

566

00:18:26,438 --> 00:18:27,673

over our distributor

 

567

00:18:27,673 --> 00:18:29,808

and go straight to say

 

568

00:18:29,808 --> 00:18:31,543

to our manufacturer, Wayne, I've

 

569

00:18:31,543 --> 00:18:32,077

called you

 

570

00:18:33,445 --> 00:18:34,646

many times

 

571

00:18:34,646 --> 00:18:38,217

and and you all are or are giving us

 

572

00:18:38,217 --> 00:18:39,184

the information.

 

573

00:18:39,184 --> 00:18:40,786

We're not buying from you,

 

574

00:18:40,786 --> 00:18:42,888

but we just thirst for that information.

 

575

00:18:42,888 --> 00:18:44,323

And sometimes that information

 

576

00:18:44,323 --> 00:18:45,924

doesn't get filtered down.

 

577

00:18:45,924 --> 00:18:47,759

So instead of the contractor

 

578

00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:49,128

losing faith or

 

579

00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,930

or forget about it or not pursuing it,

 

580

00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:54,633

they can go to the manufacturer

 

581

00:18:54,633 --> 00:18:56,535

and talk to them.

 

582

00:18:56,535 --> 00:18:57,202

Correct?

 

583

00:18:57,202 --> 00:18:58,237

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

584

00:18:58,237 --> 00:19:00,439

It seemed to help us quite a bit.

 

585

00:19:00,439 --> 00:19:02,007

Well, yeah, I.

 

586

00:19:02,007 --> 00:19:05,277

I, I agree with you, but it's, it's,

 

587

00:19:06,612 --> 00:19:09,081

it's essential that, you know, the best

 

588

00:19:09,081 --> 00:19:10,015

practices.

 

589

00:19:10,015 --> 00:19:12,284

It's essential that, you know,

 

590

00:19:12,284 --> 00:19:15,187

you know, for example,

 

591

00:19:15,521 --> 00:19:17,656

when you guys at Bowen are writing the

 

592

00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:21,593

directions on the back of the can,

 

593

00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,995

I don't get a memo

 

594

00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,297

that says yes,

 

595

00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:27,432

the directions changed, so reread them.

 

596

00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:30,302

So I read them every time

 

597

00:19:30,302 --> 00:19:32,404

and I say, I've read this before

 

598

00:19:32,538 --> 00:19:35,407

and luckily I well read and

 

599

00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:37,643

and can read quickly,

 

600

00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:41,146

but I read the damn directions because

 

601

00:19:42,247 --> 00:19:45,751

I'm the user and I want to be successful.

 

602

00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:47,619

And by the way,

 

603

00:19:47,619 --> 00:19:49,922

finish isn't getting any cheaper.

 

604

00:19:49,922 --> 00:19:52,291

So it's an investment

 

605

00:19:52,291 --> 00:19:53,192

and I want to,

 

606

00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:55,627

I want to return on the investment.

 

607

00:19:55,627 --> 00:19:56,361

Yeah.

 

608

00:19:56,495 --> 00:19:58,330

I read the directions.

 

609

00:19:58,330 --> 00:20:00,132

Well and I think what you said

 

610

00:20:00,132 --> 00:20:01,333

also was important

 

611

00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:03,769

because you know, there is three really

 

612

00:20:03,769 --> 00:20:04,570

there's three things here.

 

613

00:20:04,570 --> 00:20:05,504

There's a manufacturer,

 

614

00:20:05,504 --> 00:20:06,271

there's a distributor

 

615

00:20:06,271 --> 00:20:07,839

name is the contractor

 

616

00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:09,942

and nobody wins in a claim.

 

617

00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:11,210

It's not front for anybody.

 

618

00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:12,544

It's not fun for the contractor

 

619

00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:14,346

especially is not for the distributor

 

620

00:20:14,346 --> 00:20:15,714

or the manufacturer.

 

621

00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,849

So that open line of communication

 

622

00:20:17,849 --> 00:20:19,351

I think is important

 

623

00:20:19,351 --> 00:20:21,353

and nobody wants to find out

 

624

00:20:21,353 --> 00:20:22,754

after the fact that maybe something

 

625

00:20:22,754 --> 00:20:23,889

could have been done or what have you.

 

626

00:20:23,889 --> 00:20:25,257

So I think that

 

627

00:20:25,257 --> 00:20:27,192

that alone is a key reason for

 

628

00:20:27,192 --> 00:20:28,227

keeping those lines open

 

629

00:20:30,762 --> 00:20:31,563

for sure.

 

630

00:20:31,563 --> 00:20:33,665

Yes, I agree 100%.

 

631

00:20:35,033 --> 00:20:37,536

And honestly, what I just

 

632

00:20:37,803 --> 00:20:39,504

I just picked up your quick

 

633

00:20:39,504 --> 00:20:41,907

your quick reference guide for your bona.

 

634

00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:43,308

Jesus, that's faint.

 

635

00:20:43,308 --> 00:20:44,443

It's a notebook

 

636

00:20:44,443 --> 00:20:45,277

and it has a quick

 

637

00:20:45,277 --> 00:20:47,379

go to cheat sheet for me.

 

638

00:20:47,379 --> 00:20:48,513

These are little things

 

639

00:20:48,513 --> 00:20:51,016

that that mean a life to least us.

 

640

00:20:51,016 --> 00:20:52,551

The contractor.

 

641

00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:53,218

Yeah.

 

642

00:20:53,218 --> 00:20:55,454

Especially if you're in those

 

643

00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:56,288

and you're wondering

 

644

00:20:56,288 --> 00:20:57,122

which one is going

 

645

00:20:57,122 --> 00:21:01,426

to get you the most bang for your buck.

 

646

00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:02,427

Yeah, 100%.

 

647

00:21:02,427 --> 00:21:04,062

And we just had put those out, inspected.

 

648

00:21:04,062 --> 00:21:05,430

Me out of trouble.

 

649

00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:09,635

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

650

00:21:09,635 --> 00:21:12,871

And then from peer to peer relationships,

 

651

00:21:13,305 --> 00:21:14,840

reaching across the different

 

652

00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,741

I mean, that's the nice thing.

 

653

00:21:15,741 --> 00:21:17,075

One thing about social media

 

654

00:21:17,075 --> 00:21:18,577

and all this that we can talk to people

 

655

00:21:18,577 --> 00:21:19,911

across the country

 

656

00:21:19,911 --> 00:21:20,912

that have a

 

657

00:21:20,912 --> 00:21:21,713

I mean, you go back

 

658

00:21:21,713 --> 00:21:23,749

20 years, 30 years ago,

 

659

00:21:23,749 --> 00:21:25,017

if you had a problem, you're kind of

 

660

00:21:25,017 --> 00:21:28,954

on your own now versus today, right?

 

661

00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:30,188

Right. 100%.

 

662

00:21:30,188 --> 00:21:31,590

No one would want to share

 

663

00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:32,791

knowledge, period.

 

664

00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:34,326

You know, we were taught

 

665

00:21:34,326 --> 00:21:35,761

we're doing something unusual

 

666

00:21:35,761 --> 00:21:38,063

and someone came on the job site.

 

667

00:21:38,096 --> 00:21:39,264

You put your tools down

 

668

00:21:39,264 --> 00:21:41,366

and be polite and quit working.

 

669

00:21:41,366 --> 00:21:43,068

Don't show anyone anything.

 

670

00:21:43,068 --> 00:21:44,903

You guard your trade.

 

671

00:21:44,903 --> 00:21:46,571

Now it's it's Wild West.

 

672

00:21:46,571 --> 00:21:49,207

Everyone's thrown everything out there.

 

673

00:21:49,207 --> 00:21:51,343

Big defense. Yeah, yeah.

 

674

00:21:52,878 --> 00:21:54,680

And we're the good.

 

675

00:21:55,681 --> 00:21:56,381

It's

 

676

00:21:58,183 --> 00:21:59,151

I understand

 

677

00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:02,521

both sides of that when in your market

 

678

00:22:02,888 --> 00:22:05,023

if you work on

 

679

00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:08,427

let's say you work in

 

680

00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:10,228

DC

 

681

00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:13,398

metro area and

 

682

00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:17,269

your competitors know that

 

683

00:22:17,269 --> 00:22:19,805

if you ask you a question, spread

 

684

00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:21,707

that you'll be

 

685

00:22:21,707 --> 00:22:23,942

you'll freely share that information.

 

686

00:22:24,409 --> 00:22:25,243

Then

 

687

00:22:26,011 --> 00:22:26,812

then,

 

688

00:22:26,912 --> 00:22:28,313

then sometimes people

 

689

00:22:28,313 --> 00:22:30,248

that want to take the fast and easy way

 

690

00:22:30,248 --> 00:22:31,283

and just

 

691

00:22:31,383 --> 00:22:32,150

not learn,

 

692

00:22:32,150 --> 00:22:34,820

they just ask the question, go with it.

 

693

00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:35,987

It's kind of gives them

 

694

00:22:35,987 --> 00:22:37,255

an unfair advantage

 

695

00:22:37,255 --> 00:22:37,856

or it

 

696

00:22:37,856 --> 00:22:39,591

appears sometimes

 

697

00:22:39,591 --> 00:22:41,560

to give them an unfair advantage.

 

698

00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,962

And I understand why people would say

 

699

00:22:43,962 --> 00:22:46,298

I don't want to share that information,

 

700

00:22:46,298 --> 00:22:48,400

but honestly,

 

701

00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,702

having someone to talk to

 

702

00:22:50,702 --> 00:22:54,272

and be able to bounce, you know,

 

703

00:22:54,272 --> 00:22:56,074

it doesn't even matter if you're talking

 

704

00:22:56,074 --> 00:22:59,277

about the mineral of that's on your 120

 

705

00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:01,747

paper or if it's

 

706

00:23:03,048 --> 00:23:03,982

the brand

 

707

00:23:03,982 --> 00:23:05,050

of applicator

 

708

00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:06,451

because you like to pull

 

709

00:23:06,451 --> 00:23:08,487

rather than roll.

 

710

00:23:08,487 --> 00:23:09,287

I can't tell you

 

711

00:23:09,287 --> 00:23:10,088

how many times

 

712

00:23:10,088 --> 00:23:13,091

I've asked about different roller covers

 

713

00:23:13,091 --> 00:23:14,393

and what do you like?

 

714

00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:16,228

And some guys are,

 

715

00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:17,095

you know,

 

716

00:23:17,295 --> 00:23:19,798

I don't take any of it as gospel truth,

 

717

00:23:19,998 --> 00:23:22,234

but I do want to know

 

718

00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:24,803

what is successful and

 

719

00:23:24,803 --> 00:23:28,874

and how to be better, because that's

 

720

00:23:28,874 --> 00:23:29,474

our mission

 

721

00:23:29,474 --> 00:23:32,444

statement, is to always try and be better

 

722

00:23:32,911 --> 00:23:35,280

and, you know,

 

723

00:23:36,214 --> 00:23:37,749

it's it's

 

724

00:23:37,749 --> 00:23:40,285

sharing information and having that

 

725

00:23:40,719 --> 00:23:45,390

that position, that of mentor friend,

 

726

00:23:45,857 --> 00:23:48,493

confident all rolled into one.

 

727

00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:50,562

Like I always used to think

 

728

00:23:50,562 --> 00:23:55,267

Sprague was older than me.

 

729

00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:57,068

Well, look, a lot like.

 

730

00:23:57,068 --> 00:23:58,804

Younger, but.

 

731

00:24:00,238 --> 00:24:01,440

He did not

 

732

00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:04,643

a lot of years ago

 

733

00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:06,878

years ago before we would

 

734

00:24:08,346 --> 00:24:10,916

give the knowledge out freely,

 

735

00:24:10,916 --> 00:24:13,218

we had a contractor in my area

 

736

00:24:13,218 --> 00:24:15,687

was always calling me, ask me questions.

 

737

00:24:15,687 --> 00:24:17,456

And he knew we were popular,

 

738

00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:18,457

of course,

 

739

00:24:18,457 --> 00:24:20,559

and he said, I've never done it.

 

740

00:24:20,659 --> 00:24:21,860

What can I do?

 

741

00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:23,662

And he bug living academy.

 

742

00:24:23,662 --> 00:24:25,030

I'm not going to tell you who he is.

 

743

00:24:25,030 --> 00:24:26,731

You might know who he is, but

 

744

00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:29,367

for two years

 

745

00:24:29,367 --> 00:24:31,570

I sold the guy special water

 

746

00:24:31,703 --> 00:24:33,538

that I got to work

 

747

00:24:33,538 --> 00:24:36,942

for, store its label for two years.

 

748

00:24:37,275 --> 00:24:40,445

It was it was $40

 

749

00:24:40,445 --> 00:24:41,246

a gallon

 

750

00:24:41,246 --> 00:24:43,782

that you got to use this or the mineral.

 

751

00:24:43,782 --> 00:24:45,450

You know I made up all kinds of stuff.

 

752

00:24:45,450 --> 00:24:45,784

Yeah.

 

753

00:24:45,784 --> 00:24:48,086

And I said you some

 

754

00:24:48,086 --> 00:24:50,422

when you're on vacation I needed and

 

755

00:24:50,956 --> 00:24:52,657

I went there, I got regular water work.

 

756

00:24:52,657 --> 00:24:53,358

Fine.

 

757

00:24:53,358 --> 00:24:56,027

So if people are willing to go out

 

758

00:24:56,194 --> 00:24:57,896

and learn

 

759

00:24:57,896 --> 00:25:00,031

and they just want the easy hanging fruit

 

760

00:25:00,031 --> 00:25:01,333

and just call,

 

761

00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:03,134

so you got to get out there

 

762

00:25:03,134 --> 00:25:04,536

and put the time into it

 

763

00:25:04,536 --> 00:25:06,705

or you're going to get the $40

 

764

00:25:06,705 --> 00:25:07,806

water there.

 

765

00:25:07,806 --> 00:25:08,139

You go.

 

766

00:25:08,139 --> 00:25:10,976

Yeah, that was good markup.

 

767

00:25:10,976 --> 00:25:12,811

I think that's the show.

 

768

00:25:12,811 --> 00:25:13,912

That's what we'll call this show.

 

769

00:25:13,912 --> 00:25:18,650

$40 Water.

 

770

00:25:18,650 --> 00:25:20,719

Before we jump off this topic,

 

771

00:25:20,919 --> 00:25:21,386

you know,

 

772

00:25:21,386 --> 00:25:22,721

I think that it's important

 

773

00:25:22,721 --> 00:25:24,289

every once in a while,

 

774

00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:26,892

like I'll be working on something in

 

775

00:25:26,892 --> 00:25:28,927

the shop and I'll have

 

776

00:25:30,795 --> 00:25:32,864

a bunch of colors out and

 

777

00:25:33,131 --> 00:25:33,999

I'll be chasing.

 

778

00:25:33,999 --> 00:25:34,833

One particular

 

779

00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:36,768

thing that I think is interesting

 

780

00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:38,603

and either my brother

 

781

00:25:38,603 --> 00:25:41,172

Dave, who I work with every day, or Linda

 

782

00:25:41,172 --> 00:25:42,307

who runs the office,

 

783

00:25:42,307 --> 00:25:42,974

they'll come down

 

784

00:25:42,974 --> 00:25:45,076

and ask me a question or

 

785

00:25:45,076 --> 00:25:46,411

someone will stop by and say,

 

786

00:25:46,411 --> 00:25:47,679

Oh, who's that for?

 

787

00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:48,580

Who's that color for?

 

788

00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:50,482

And I say, doesn't have a

 

789

00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:53,184

doesn't have an owner yet.

 

790

00:25:53,184 --> 00:25:55,387

Is the color I'm working.

 

791

00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:56,187

Yep.

 

792

00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:59,925

And once I once once I get this color

 

793

00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:03,962

it's going to have a lot of.

 

794

00:26:03,962 --> 00:26:05,363

Right, that's yeah.

 

795

00:26:05,363 --> 00:26:06,765

There's trends,

 

796

00:26:06,765 --> 00:26:08,133

there's things that are

 

797

00:26:08,133 --> 00:26:10,335

that are trending.

 

798

00:26:10,468 --> 00:26:13,071

And now with social media

 

799

00:26:13,071 --> 00:26:14,406

and all the TV shows

 

800

00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:16,041

and all that kind of stuff,

 

801

00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:18,977

you know, it's everywhere all the time.

 

802

00:26:18,977 --> 00:26:21,746

It's like electricity buzzing around.

 

803

00:26:21,813 --> 00:26:24,382

There's also things that that,

 

804

00:26:24,816 --> 00:26:25,216

you know,

 

805

00:26:25,216 --> 00:26:26,751

there's there's directions

 

806

00:26:26,751 --> 00:26:27,752

that you need to take

 

807

00:26:27,752 --> 00:26:28,253

to push

 

808

00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:31,856

the envelope and make tools, honestly.

 

809

00:26:32,057 --> 00:26:33,191

So sometimes

 

810

00:26:33,191 --> 00:26:35,360

the things that I'm working on

 

811

00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,529

don't have that for a project.

 

812

00:26:37,529 --> 00:26:39,731

This doesn't have an odor yet.

 

813

00:26:39,731 --> 00:26:40,298

Interesting.

 

814

00:26:40,298 --> 00:26:42,801

They're just things I do.

 

815

00:26:42,801 --> 00:26:44,636

So, you know, and

 

816

00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:47,606

my rule was always this

 

817

00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:49,841

if I respect you as a competitor,

 

818

00:26:49,841 --> 00:26:51,743

I would share my information with you.

 

819

00:26:51,743 --> 00:26:52,611

If I feel like,

 

820

00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:53,244

you know what

 

821

00:26:53,244 --> 00:26:54,579

you you you,

 

822

00:26:54,579 --> 00:26:56,381

you know, is somebody that he charges

 

823

00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:57,882

where he needs to charge and everything.

 

824

00:26:57,882 --> 00:27:00,719

And somebody I respect is his work.

 

825

00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,053

If he asked me a question,

 

826

00:27:02,053 --> 00:27:03,421

I would be pretty free

 

827

00:27:03,421 --> 00:27:05,223

giving up my information.

 

828

00:27:05,223 --> 00:27:07,292

It's like, to your point, Sprague,

 

829

00:27:07,292 --> 00:27:09,828

when somebody just wants a quick and easy

 

830

00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:11,763

answer without putting the work

 

831

00:27:11,763 --> 00:27:12,631

in, in my eyes

 

832

00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:14,766

anyhow, then that would be I'd be less

 

833

00:27:14,766 --> 00:27:15,400

willing to,

 

834

00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,768

to be forthright

 

835

00:27:16,768 --> 00:27:20,372

with with the information and

 

836

00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:23,808

go ahead.

 

837

00:27:23,808 --> 00:27:25,910

I was saying we would have him come

 

838

00:27:26,311 --> 00:27:28,513

look through the windows in the garage

 

839

00:27:28,513 --> 00:27:29,748

to see what we're mixing

 

840

00:27:29,748 --> 00:27:30,615

and how we're mixing.

 

841

00:27:30,615 --> 00:27:31,249

And literally,

 

842

00:27:31,249 --> 00:27:33,251

the guys would make up props,

 

843

00:27:33,251 --> 00:27:35,253

different, different things

 

844

00:27:35,253 --> 00:27:36,121

to throw them off

 

845

00:27:36,121 --> 00:27:37,555

and they would go in there

 

846

00:27:37,555 --> 00:27:39,090

and take pictures of it.

 

847

00:27:39,090 --> 00:27:41,192

It was the biggest joke in the world,

 

848

00:27:41,192 --> 00:27:42,827

but go ahead. I'm sorry.

 

849

00:27:42,827 --> 00:27:45,630

No more this episode to the dark side.

 

850

00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:46,631

It's break. That's

 

851

00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:50,835

well that that

 

852

00:27:50,835 --> 00:27:51,503

when I got

 

853

00:27:51,503 --> 00:27:54,773

out of the witness protection program

 

854

00:27:54,773 --> 00:27:55,674

I turned around.

 

855

00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:58,443

Now I really give all the information

 

856

00:27:58,576 --> 00:28:00,712

100% the gospel.

 

857

00:28:00,712 --> 00:28:01,279

Yeah.

 

858

00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,715

He's he's unprotected, though.

 

859

00:28:04,015 --> 00:28:08,586

So I always I, I mean, are secrets.

 

860

00:28:08,586 --> 00:28:09,587

And then there's just

 

861

00:28:09,587 --> 00:28:10,922

an average question.

 

862

00:28:10,922 --> 00:28:13,925

And when a peer

 

863

00:28:13,925 --> 00:28:14,292

right

 

864

00:28:14,292 --> 00:28:15,527

and defying peer

 

865

00:28:15,527 --> 00:28:18,530

that's defined by different

 

866

00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:22,867

criteria but when a colleague or a peer

 

867

00:28:22,867 --> 00:28:24,169

locally calls me

 

868

00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:25,837

with a question and says, hey,

 

869

00:28:25,837 --> 00:28:27,038

what do you think?

 

870

00:28:27,038 --> 00:28:29,207

I got a I got a problem with this.

 

871

00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:30,041

You know,

 

872

00:28:30,775 --> 00:28:32,777

I always try and help them.

 

873

00:28:32,777 --> 00:28:35,046

I always try and help them because

 

874

00:28:37,148 --> 00:28:37,549

Greg and I

 

875

00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:38,917

were talking about this earlier,

 

876

00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:39,751

you know, when the tide

 

877

00:28:39,751 --> 00:28:41,853

rises, all boats rise with it.

 

878

00:28:41,853 --> 00:28:43,221

And we have a really.

 

879

00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:44,823

Whoa, whoa, what?

 

880

00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:46,324

What did he just say?

 

881

00:28:46,324 --> 00:28:48,193

God, it came so easy for him.

 

882

00:28:48,193 --> 00:28:49,327

How did he do that?

 

883

00:28:50,328 --> 00:28:50,962

We've been

 

884

00:28:50,962 --> 00:28:52,597

trying to say that and get that right for

 

885

00:28:52,597 --> 00:28:54,032

for three years now.

 

886

00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:56,701

Steve, we keep screwing that up.

 

887

00:28:56,701 --> 00:28:57,168

All right.

 

888

00:28:57,168 --> 00:28:57,569

Well, wait.

 

889

00:28:57,569 --> 00:28:57,869

And well,

 

890

00:28:57,869 --> 00:28:59,237

you know, a couple of minutes

 

891

00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:00,805

ago, Steve said

 

892

00:29:00,805 --> 00:29:03,508

before we change topics, and I thought,

 

893

00:29:04,309 --> 00:29:04,943

oh, okay,

 

894

00:29:04,943 --> 00:29:06,811

so this is on the floor with

 

895

00:29:06,811 --> 00:29:08,079

Steven Sprague now.

 

896

00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:10,148

He's he's leading the conversation

 

897

00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:14,252

now that he just nailed

 

898

00:29:14,252 --> 00:29:16,821

the what did say that again about.

 

899

00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:20,959

When the tide rises, all boats

 

900

00:29:20,959 --> 00:29:22,427

rise with it.

 

901

00:29:22,427 --> 00:29:24,329

Write that down, Rob.

 

902

00:29:24,329 --> 00:29:26,131

Yeah, but I'll still screw it up.

 

903

00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:28,767

Write this one down. Robert

 

904

00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:31,069

on the floor with Steve and Spray

 

905

00:29:31,069 --> 00:29:33,138

or Sprague and Steve Stevens.

 

906

00:29:33,138 --> 00:29:36,241

Who's older I, I got one request.

 

907

00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:37,642

We would like a bell.

 

908

00:29:37,642 --> 00:29:38,910

Some type of bell.

 

909

00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:39,310

Yeah.

 

910

00:29:39,310 --> 00:29:40,879

You need one bell.

 

911

00:29:40,879 --> 00:29:43,915

Yes.

 

912

00:29:43,915 --> 00:29:46,251

And also you could say hey,

 

913

00:29:46,351 --> 00:29:47,418

don't worry about them.

 

914

00:29:47,418 --> 00:29:48,419

You will go in blood,

 

915

00:29:48,419 --> 00:29:49,521

just sit in the saddle.

 

916

00:29:49,521 --> 00:29:51,456

And old ones.

 

917

00:29:51,456 --> 00:29:53,992

Like your. Style.

 

918

00:29:53,992 --> 00:29:56,528

Well, say we want to go ahead.

 

919

00:29:57,762 --> 00:29:59,364

We have good.

 

920

00:29:59,364 --> 00:30:00,765

We have good.

 

921

00:30:00,765 --> 00:30:02,934

We have really good, talented

 

922

00:30:04,135 --> 00:30:07,972

technicians here and in Minneapolis.

 

923

00:30:07,972 --> 00:30:10,909

And we have a good work ethic.

 

924

00:30:10,942 --> 00:30:12,510

And I think it's

 

925

00:30:12,510 --> 00:30:14,546

because there is a little bit of sharing.

 

926

00:30:14,546 --> 00:30:16,881

You know, it's not too much,

 

927

00:30:16,881 --> 00:30:18,149

but it's just enough.

 

928

00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:21,653

And and it's very competitive.

 

929

00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:24,622

I'm a competitive person and

 

930

00:30:25,023 --> 00:30:27,759

and I like competing and I enjoy it.

 

931

00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:29,861

And but,

 

932

00:30:29,861 --> 00:30:30,228

you know,

 

933

00:30:30,228 --> 00:30:32,831

when it's just a straight up question

 

934

00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:34,899

and a trade secret,

 

935

00:30:35,867 --> 00:30:38,403

I'm I'm happy to share that info.

 

936

00:30:38,436 --> 00:30:41,206

And there's a couple of guys that I'm

 

937

00:30:41,639 --> 00:30:44,976

John Crow and Santa Cruz and Sprig Lynn

 

938

00:30:44,976 --> 00:30:45,710

and DC

 

939

00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:46,978

and John your Rhema

 

940

00:30:46,978 --> 00:30:49,080

in in the Detroit area

 

941

00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,482

and Peter West in New York and

 

942

00:30:51,816 --> 00:30:52,984

and his kid Nick

 

943

00:30:52,984 --> 00:30:54,853

and I mean there's people

 

944

00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:55,553

that I call

 

945

00:30:55,553 --> 00:30:56,788

and bounce stuff off

 

946

00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:59,490

of on a regular basis and

 

947

00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:02,160

and it's things that I already know

 

948

00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,728

but I need confirmation I'm on

 

949

00:31:03,728 --> 00:31:05,697

the right track because I'm

 

950

00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:10,435

conservative in risk

 

951

00:31:11,469 --> 00:31:12,570

and I want to be success

 

952

00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:13,805

for the first time.

 

953

00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:15,073

And

 

954

00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:16,774

it's very expensive

 

955

00:31:16,774 --> 00:31:20,311

to redo a whole project and is

 

956

00:31:20,311 --> 00:31:24,015

and so that's why that's why I,

 

957

00:31:24,682 --> 00:31:26,718

I like to, you know,

 

958

00:31:27,352 --> 00:31:29,053

help and share

 

959

00:31:29,053 --> 00:31:31,022

and all that sort of thing.

 

960

00:31:31,022 --> 00:31:33,992

But anyway.

 

961

00:31:33,992 --> 00:31:36,394

Here's what I think is changed

 

962

00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:38,463

when it comes to sharing information.

 

963

00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:39,530

I think as the industry

 

964

00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:40,331

has gotten smaller

 

965

00:31:40,331 --> 00:31:42,600

and we certainly we need more help

 

966

00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,068

and everybody is looking for

 

967

00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:44,669

for whatever,

 

968

00:31:44,669 --> 00:31:45,737

I think it's almost like,

 

969

00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:47,672

look, we're all in this together now.

 

970

00:31:47,672 --> 00:31:50,008

I mean, there's a lot of work out there.

 

971

00:31:50,008 --> 00:31:51,576

We got to help each other

 

972

00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:53,745

and I think I've looked at the industry

 

973

00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:54,646

completely differently

 

974

00:31:54,646 --> 00:31:56,781

after I have dragged, the more I learned

 

975

00:31:56,781 --> 00:31:58,316

and as I got older and actually

 

976

00:31:58,316 --> 00:32:00,551

when I got more secure in myself,

 

977

00:32:00,551 --> 00:32:01,352

that, you know what?

 

978

00:32:01,352 --> 00:32:01,753

I don't

 

979

00:32:01,753 --> 00:32:03,988

I I'll share whatever and

 

980

00:32:03,988 --> 00:32:04,689

maybe I'll learn something

 

981

00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:05,456

about the next guy

 

982

00:32:05,456 --> 00:32:07,325

and I became more willing.

 

983

00:32:07,325 --> 00:32:08,493

And actually the endeavor

 

984

00:32:08,493 --> 00:32:10,328

did that a lot for me

 

985

00:32:10,328 --> 00:32:11,062

was when I realized,

 

986

00:32:11,062 --> 00:32:13,498

Who the hell am I to keep this to myself

 

987

00:32:13,498 --> 00:32:15,233

when I'm learning something from Sprague

 

988

00:32:15,233 --> 00:32:16,267

and from from Jean,

 

989

00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:16,868

from Renaissance

 

990

00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:18,369

Flores and Peter

 

991

00:32:18,369 --> 00:32:20,104

and all these guys you mentioned,

 

992

00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:21,572

I mean, man, I'm

 

993

00:32:21,572 --> 00:32:22,707

no better than anybody else.

 

994

00:32:22,707 --> 00:32:23,574

And certainly I got a

 

995

00:32:23,574 --> 00:32:24,742

lot to learn myself. So

 

996

00:32:26,477 --> 00:32:27,512

for me,

 

997

00:32:27,512 --> 00:32:27,812

going to

 

998

00:32:27,812 --> 00:32:28,346

the schools,

 

999

00:32:28,346 --> 00:32:29,814

when I started realizing that,

 

1000

00:32:29,814 --> 00:32:30,748

you know what

 

1001

00:32:30,748 --> 00:32:33,985

sharing is raises all ties in them.

 

1002

00:32:33,985 --> 00:32:34,752

But

 

1003

00:32:35,653 --> 00:32:38,823

something like that.

 

1004

00:32:38,823 --> 00:32:39,757

Hey, it's

 

1005

00:32:39,991 --> 00:32:42,927

a way to fast track the knowledge.

 

1006

00:32:42,927 --> 00:32:43,294

I mean,

 

1007

00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:46,531

experience is a expensive endeavor.

 

1008

00:32:46,931 --> 00:32:49,067

And if you could cut that down

 

1009

00:32:49,834 --> 00:32:52,837

and cut down on the cost of going through

 

1010

00:32:52,837 --> 00:32:55,239

that experience and call someone

 

1011

00:32:55,239 --> 00:32:56,708

and get some good

 

1012

00:32:56,708 --> 00:32:59,110

sound knowledge, it's phenomenal.

 

1013

00:33:00,211 --> 00:33:02,447

FAA and all these other classes really,

 

1014

00:33:02,947 --> 00:33:03,848

really help out.

 

1015

00:33:03,848 --> 00:33:05,850

You always come away with something,

 

1016

00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:08,086

something I have my job.

 

1017

00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:09,988

I think

 

1018

00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:13,424

the classes are not too bad either.

 

1019

00:33:13,424 --> 00:33:14,892

If they're if there was.

 

1020

00:33:14,892 --> 00:33:16,761

More I said those VONA

 

1021

00:33:16,761 --> 00:33:17,628

training classes

 

1022

00:33:17,628 --> 00:33:20,698

they're not too bad either spring.

 

1023

00:33:21,432 --> 00:33:23,868

She is I call that guy 24 seven

 

1024

00:33:23,935 --> 00:33:24,969

that goes on

 

1025

00:33:24,969 --> 00:33:26,270

that guy's like

 

1026

00:33:26,270 --> 00:33:30,008

emergency hotline operator thank god

 

1027

00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:31,776

he will attract them

 

1028

00:33:31,776 --> 00:33:33,811

if he goes break arms in the shower.

 

1029

00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:36,614

So get a waterproof phone there, Jeff.

 

1030

00:33:37,882 --> 00:33:39,517

He's going to laugh.

 

1031

00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:40,585

Okay.

 

1032

00:33:40,585 --> 00:33:41,919

So I hope you got your clothes on

 

1033

00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:43,621

now that you're talking to me.

 

1034

00:33:43,621 --> 00:33:45,990

He said, Yeah, I got to go.

 

1035

00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:48,393

Oh, Lord, have mercy.

 

1036

00:33:48,393 --> 00:33:52,296

I, I think that if there was one thing

 

1037

00:33:52,296 --> 00:33:55,500

that I think should happen

 

1038

00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:58,002

more often than me

 

1039

00:33:58,803 --> 00:34:00,605

personally, because I travel around

 

1040

00:34:00,605 --> 00:34:02,073

and do projects with,

 

1041

00:34:02,073 --> 00:34:04,876

I get the pleasure of working with

 

1042

00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:08,379

different crews all over the place.

 

1043

00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:11,015

And I learn something every time.

 

1044

00:34:11,449 --> 00:34:14,252

Either learn how not to do something

 

1045

00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:17,555

or I learn to be more patient.

 

1046

00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:18,856

There's a time to go fast

 

1047

00:34:18,856 --> 00:34:19,590

and there's a time to.

 

1048

00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:20,358

Take your

 

1049

00:34:20,358 --> 00:34:24,629

take a moment and get your big other.

 

1050

00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:25,096

And I don't

 

1051

00:34:25,096 --> 00:34:27,198

know what that moment is called, but

 

1052

00:34:28,099 --> 00:34:29,834

I think we know what I'm talking about.

 

1053

00:34:29,834 --> 00:34:30,301

And

 

1054

00:34:31,702 --> 00:34:33,704

when I go to different markets

 

1055

00:34:33,704 --> 00:34:34,772

and I've worked

 

1056

00:34:34,839 --> 00:34:39,077

from Hawaii to the Mediterranean

 

1057

00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:43,781

and the it's it doesn't matter.

 

1058

00:34:43,781 --> 00:34:46,217

Everyone has the same issues.

 

1059

00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:48,953

Everyone's got

 

1060

00:34:49,153 --> 00:34:49,520

one

 

1061

00:34:50,555 --> 00:34:52,957

wishes they had a better pack cloth.

 

1062

00:34:52,957 --> 00:34:55,159

Everybody's got a

 

1063

00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:55,560

you know

 

1064

00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,362

everyone has the same everybody's

 

1065

00:34:58,729 --> 00:35:00,098

when you're ready to get going

 

1066

00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:00,865

and everybody's

 

1067

00:35:00,865 --> 00:35:02,366

tapping their pockets saying,

 

1068

00:35:02,366 --> 00:35:04,335

hey, where's my cut in brush?

 

1069

00:35:04,335 --> 00:35:06,170

Everybody there might be saying it

 

1070

00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:07,305

in a different language.

 

1071

00:35:07,305 --> 00:35:09,574

Yeah, but going

 

1072

00:35:09,574 --> 00:35:12,477

knowing we all have the same issues

 

1073

00:35:13,644 --> 00:35:15,313

is empowering.

 

1074

00:35:15,313 --> 00:35:16,247

And knowing

 

1075

00:35:16,247 --> 00:35:18,382

that you can learn something

 

1076

00:35:18,382 --> 00:35:20,518

from everybody, it doesn't.

 

1077

00:35:20,518 --> 00:35:21,452

They don't have to be

 

1078

00:35:21,452 --> 00:35:23,454

a big fancy company.

 

1079

00:35:23,454 --> 00:35:25,156

They can just be a little company

 

1080

00:35:25,156 --> 00:35:26,057

you've never heard of.

 

1081

00:35:26,057 --> 00:35:27,692

That's really good.

 

1082

00:35:27,959 --> 00:35:29,260

100%.

 

1083

00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:30,161

I totally agree with that.

 

1084

00:35:30,161 --> 00:35:30,795

In fact, I was

 

1085

00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:32,697

I was kind of laughing to myself.

 

1086

00:35:32,697 --> 00:35:32,964

Steve,

 

1087

00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:33,564

when you were talking

 

1088

00:35:33,564 --> 00:35:35,533

about roller covers,

 

1089

00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:36,801

because I went one time

 

1090

00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:38,102

I was on a journey

 

1091

00:35:38,102 --> 00:35:40,204

to find the best roller cover

 

1092

00:35:40,204 --> 00:35:41,472

and it was like an obsession to me.

 

1093

00:35:41,472 --> 00:35:42,740

I was outside our industry,

 

1094

00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:44,008

into the boating industry,

 

1095

00:35:44,008 --> 00:35:46,544

into all other kind of industries to find

 

1096

00:35:46,844 --> 00:35:48,546

find the right roller cover.

 

1097

00:35:48,546 --> 00:35:51,048

So we all have the same challenges.

 

1098

00:35:51,048 --> 00:35:51,582

You see, my,

 

1099

00:35:51,582 --> 00:35:53,551

my voice is getting worse by the minute.

 

1100

00:35:53,551 --> 00:35:55,052

No, no, it's not. Sounds fine.

 

1101

00:35:57,021 --> 00:35:58,322

Really good.

 

1102

00:35:58,322 --> 00:36:01,159

Yeah, we're getting down with something.

 

1103

00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,260

I will say too, though,

 

1104

00:36:02,260 --> 00:36:07,732

that not all relationships are good.

 

1105

00:36:07,732 --> 00:36:08,332

I,

 

1106

00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:11,369

I had a I had a man.

 

1107

00:36:11,869 --> 00:36:14,605

A man.

 

1108

00:36:14,605 --> 00:36:15,439

I had.

 

1109

00:36:15,439 --> 00:36:17,642

All relationships are good.

 

1110

00:36:18,075 --> 00:36:19,110

Yeah, I get it.

 

1111

00:36:19,110 --> 00:36:20,778

Rob require bells.

 

1112

00:36:20,778 --> 00:36:21,612

Yeah.

 

1113

00:36:21,879 --> 00:36:24,448

I had a, I had a an office worker

 

1114

00:36:24,448 --> 00:36:24,982

one time

 

1115

00:36:24,982 --> 00:36:28,653

who used to relish giving me bad news.

 

1116

00:36:28,653 --> 00:36:29,754

I mean,

 

1117

00:36:30,388 --> 00:36:32,023

she'd say when,

 

1118

00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:33,324

you know that job, that's the job

 

1119

00:36:33,324 --> 00:36:34,258

is starting Monday.

 

1120

00:36:34,258 --> 00:36:38,763

Yeah She goes, Well, it's off the books.

 

1121

00:36:38,763 --> 00:36:40,231

They change the schedule,

 

1122

00:36:40,231 --> 00:36:41,599

the kid's not going to be gone,

 

1123

00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:41,866

blah, blah,

 

1124

00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:44,569

blah, and just loved to give me bad news.

 

1125

00:36:45,002 --> 00:36:47,038

So I also learned that you got to

 

1126

00:36:47,505 --> 00:36:47,872

there's some

 

1127

00:36:47,872 --> 00:36:50,074

toxic relationships out there.

 

1128

00:36:50,074 --> 00:36:50,942

So

 

1129

00:36:51,909 --> 00:36:53,844

I think you can also learn to steer clear

 

1130

00:36:53,844 --> 00:36:55,146

from from some of those,

 

1131

00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:56,714

you know,

 

1132

00:36:56,714 --> 00:36:57,682

where I want to go

 

1133

00:36:57,682 --> 00:37:00,518

and the things I want to accomplish.

 

1134

00:37:00,518 --> 00:37:01,352

Sometimes there is

 

1135

00:37:01,352 --> 00:37:02,253

there are some relationships

 

1136

00:37:02,253 --> 00:37:04,555

you do need to stay away from.

 

1137

00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:06,757

Sometimes times the best job is

 

1138

00:37:06,757 --> 00:37:08,626

when you think.

 

1139

00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:09,560

Mm,

 

1140

00:37:10,995 --> 00:37:12,029

amen.

 

1141

00:37:13,264 --> 00:37:14,465

So

 

1142

00:37:16,033 --> 00:37:17,368

we haven't talked about coworker

 

1143

00:37:17,368 --> 00:37:18,836

relationships were some of the

 

1144

00:37:18,836 --> 00:37:21,105

toughest ones. Rob

 

1145

00:37:21,172 --> 00:37:22,173

I hear you when you.

 

1146

00:37:22,173 --> 00:37:22,707

Write, you know,

 

1147

00:37:22,707 --> 00:37:25,042

I know what I'm talking about.

 

1148

00:37:25,042 --> 00:37:26,611

Time to clear your throat.

 

1149

00:37:26,611 --> 00:37:29,280

And because those relationships are the

 

1150

00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,114

are the longest

 

1151

00:37:30,114 --> 00:37:30,781

every day

 

1152

00:37:30,781 --> 00:37:31,916

you're every day

 

1153

00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:33,117

you're talking to these people

 

1154

00:37:33,117 --> 00:37:33,718

and deal

 

1155

00:37:33,718 --> 00:37:34,752

with these people working together.

 

1156

00:37:34,752 --> 00:37:35,987

And some of those are,

 

1157

00:37:35,987 --> 00:37:36,454

you know,

 

1158

00:37:36,454 --> 00:37:39,457

not everybody's in sync at the same time.

 

1159

00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:41,225

So maybe you can kind of talk

 

1160

00:37:41,225 --> 00:37:42,660

about those two

 

1161

00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:44,695

and how to navigate through some of those

 

1162

00:37:50,201 --> 00:37:50,868

and go.

 

1163

00:37:50,868 --> 00:37:55,072

We've never had that issue.

 

1164

00:37:55,072 --> 00:37:57,475

What do you get there? There, buddy?

 

1165

00:37:57,475 --> 00:37:59,810

I wish that I wish that

 

1166

00:38:01,412 --> 00:38:03,614

the sometimes I think

 

1167

00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:07,018

that the thought in my head doesn't match

 

1168

00:38:07,785 --> 00:38:10,621

the words coming out of my mouth.

 

1169

00:38:11,489 --> 00:38:14,625

And I'm very straightforward.

 

1170

00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:16,227

And I

 

1171

00:38:16,861 --> 00:38:18,996

and I like to do I like to

 

1172

00:38:19,196 --> 00:38:20,598

I like to move quickly

 

1173

00:38:20,598 --> 00:38:22,867

and I like to get things done.

 

1174

00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:25,569

And and just this morning, I was

 

1175

00:38:26,237 --> 00:38:29,206

I was I was saying something in the shop.

 

1176

00:38:29,206 --> 00:38:31,075

And after I said it, I thought,

 

1177

00:38:31,075 --> 00:38:32,877

I can't believe I just said that

 

1178

00:38:32,877 --> 00:38:34,478

because that's not what I wanted to say.

 

1179

00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:35,246

And I didn't

 

1180

00:38:35,246 --> 00:38:37,581

I didn't want my guys to feel like

 

1181

00:38:37,581 --> 00:38:39,183

I didn't value

 

1182

00:38:39,183 --> 00:38:41,118

what it is that they were doing.

 

1183

00:38:41,118 --> 00:38:45,323

And I do take the time and say, you know,

 

1184

00:38:45,389 --> 00:38:47,892

even when I get a pat on the back, right,

 

1185

00:38:48,426 --> 00:38:51,395

I tell I, I tell my customer

 

1186

00:38:51,395 --> 00:38:54,231

I can't do anything literally, I can't

 

1187

00:38:54,665 --> 00:38:55,633

I can make a family,

 

1188

00:38:56,834 --> 00:38:59,136

but I can't do a project without my team.

 

1189

00:38:59,970 --> 00:39:01,806

These guys are the ones that are

 

1190

00:39:01,806 --> 00:39:04,442

making me look good, you know?

 

1191

00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:06,644

They're awesome.

 

1192

00:39:06,644 --> 00:39:07,778

They're great.

 

1193

00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,181

Hey, sprig. Sprig.

 

1194

00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:12,216

What's the what? Sprig.

 

1195

00:39:12,216 --> 00:39:13,718

What's the

 

1196

00:39:13,718 --> 00:39:15,853

secret to your success with your guys?

 

1197

00:39:15,853 --> 00:39:18,322

I mean, I follow you guys on Instagram.

 

1198

00:39:18,322 --> 00:39:21,092

I see a lot of the projects,

 

1199

00:39:21,092 --> 00:39:24,462

but they always look happy, even,

 

1200

00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:26,364

you know, I mean, that one project

 

1201

00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,833

they did with your dad's coffin was just,

 

1202

00:39:29,667 --> 00:39:30,901

you know, amazing.

 

1203

00:39:30,901 --> 00:39:32,737

But a lot of the other projects,

 

1204

00:39:32,737 --> 00:39:34,205

your guys

 

1205

00:39:34,205 --> 00:39:35,973

always seem to be working in sync,

 

1206

00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:38,209

but always seem to be pleasant.

 

1207

00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:39,777

I had one of your guys out

 

1208

00:39:39,777 --> 00:39:40,611

at my

 

1209

00:39:40,611 --> 00:39:42,513

training in New Jersey,

 

1210

00:39:42,513 --> 00:39:44,782

I think it was back in March,

 

1211

00:39:44,782 --> 00:39:47,852

and just a very, very happy person.

 

1212

00:39:47,852 --> 00:39:49,620

So now there's got to be

 

1213

00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:51,055

something you're doing

 

1214

00:39:51,055 --> 00:39:53,190

that well, wasn't really you.

 

1215

00:39:54,625 --> 00:39:55,760

There's multiple things

 

1216

00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,028

besides paying them well in general

 

1217

00:39:58,129 --> 00:40:00,331

and on time

 

1218

00:40:00,598 --> 00:40:02,833

that we we try to put

 

1219

00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:05,703

the right person on the right job,

 

1220

00:40:05,703 --> 00:40:07,304

just like a ball team.

 

1221

00:40:07,304 --> 00:40:09,273

When you put the wrong person

 

1222

00:40:09,273 --> 00:40:11,809

on the wrong job, they're going to fail.

 

1223

00:40:11,809 --> 00:40:13,010

And we feel

 

1224

00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:15,179

that the failure of management,

 

1225

00:40:15,179 --> 00:40:17,581

if you put someone into a position where

 

1226

00:40:18,382 --> 00:40:20,918

they're doing a black poor or white flaw

 

1227

00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:23,187

and they'll probably fail,

 

1228

00:40:23,521 --> 00:40:25,189

they'll probably fail.

 

1229

00:40:25,189 --> 00:40:27,525

So we try to pick and choose the jobs

 

1230

00:40:27,958 --> 00:40:30,561

that will complement that person

 

1231

00:40:30,561 --> 00:40:33,397

and some people have an eye for color

 

1232

00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:35,366

like Steve and some people don't.

 

1233

00:40:35,366 --> 00:40:36,467

So we try not to

 

1234

00:40:36,467 --> 00:40:38,402

put them in that situation

 

1235

00:40:38,402 --> 00:40:42,039

and we notice when they're the problem,

 

1236

00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,542

we honestly try to obviously

 

1237

00:40:44,542 --> 00:40:46,010

we got to look out for the customer,

 

1238

00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:47,611

we got to resolve the problem.

 

1239

00:40:47,611 --> 00:40:49,580

Then we sit back instead of

 

1240

00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:52,583

pointing fingers what went wrong,

 

1241

00:40:52,583 --> 00:40:54,151

why it went wrong,

 

1242

00:40:54,151 --> 00:40:56,353

and try to try to correct it.

 

1243

00:40:56,353 --> 00:40:59,156

But I think we do look for

 

1244

00:41:00,057 --> 00:41:01,358

so-called happy people.

 

1245

00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:04,061

Firstly.

 

1246

00:41:04,929 --> 00:41:05,830

That's awesome.

 

1247

00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:06,297

You know,

 

1248

00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:08,199

you got a disgruntled person,

 

1249

00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:09,900

it's it's time to go,

 

1250

00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:13,737

you know, you know, I can make you happy.

 

1251

00:41:14,004 --> 00:41:16,073

But just like you were saying,

 

1252

00:41:16,073 --> 00:41:17,942

there's some bad, bad ones out there

 

1253

00:41:17,942 --> 00:41:19,610

and you got to cut bait sometimes.

 

1254

00:41:19,610 --> 00:41:21,645

Yeah, but yeah, we're.

 

1255

00:41:21,712 --> 00:41:22,079

We're

 

1256

00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:23,681

always trying to replace

 

1257

00:41:23,681 --> 00:41:25,282

the weakest link,

 

1258

00:41:25,282 --> 00:41:28,219

slowly but surely improve the talent.

 

1259

00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:30,955

But if that's the secret.

 

1260

00:41:32,223 --> 00:41:33,757

I always say someone's got to go in

 

1261

00:41:33,757 --> 00:41:38,162

and ain't going to be me.

 

1262

00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:40,264

I feel you looking directly at me.

 

1263

00:41:40,297 --> 00:41:42,266

We said he was all right.

 

1264

00:41:42,266 --> 00:41:44,001

Yeah, that's all right.

 

1265

00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:45,102

That's awesome. Sprague.

 

1266

00:41:45,102 --> 00:41:46,337

I mean, that's a

 

1267

00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:47,738

that's the key to team building,

 

1268

00:41:47,738 --> 00:41:50,708

I think, is just everybody's got a role.

 

1269

00:41:50,741 --> 00:41:53,711

Know what your role is perfect, right?

 

1270

00:41:53,744 --> 00:41:54,345

That answer.

 

1271

00:41:55,312 --> 00:41:57,314

But but you know, if a guy wants

 

1272

00:41:57,481 --> 00:41:59,016

if a guy I,

 

1273

00:41:59,016 --> 00:42:01,952

I think it's also important to say what

 

1274

00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,021

you know,

 

1275

00:42:04,021 --> 00:42:06,223

you take one of your valuable players

 

1276

00:42:06,223 --> 00:42:08,626

and use in the baseball

 

1277

00:42:08,792 --> 00:42:10,361

game saying

 

1278

00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:13,230

if he's good at second base it

 

1279

00:42:14,698 --> 00:42:16,300

it's great it's awesome

 

1280

00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:17,635

he should play second base.

 

1281

00:42:17,635 --> 00:42:18,702

But occasionally

 

1282

00:42:18,702 --> 00:42:20,838

you want to ask that second baseman,

 

1283

00:42:20,838 --> 00:42:22,640

you know, you good.

 

1284

00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,008

How you feeling?

 

1285

00:42:24,008 --> 00:42:26,777

How you doing?

 

1286

00:42:26,777 --> 00:42:27,511

You want to

 

1287

00:42:27,511 --> 00:42:31,649

you know, you want to try cross-training.

 

1288

00:42:31,649 --> 00:42:33,050

You want to try

 

1289

00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:35,319

you want to try a different

 

1290

00:42:35,319 --> 00:42:36,754

you know, I mean, you want to be able

 

1291

00:42:36,754 --> 00:42:37,721

you want to

 

1292

00:42:38,422 --> 00:42:40,524

be compensated with money,

 

1293

00:42:40,524 --> 00:42:41,992

but you also compensate

 

1294

00:42:41,992 --> 00:42:43,761

with satisfaction of the job

 

1295

00:42:43,761 --> 00:42:44,395

well done

 

1296

00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:46,697

and then fulfilling their

 

1297

00:42:46,964 --> 00:42:49,333

whatever, their need is.

 

1298

00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:51,235

And if they want to learn more,

 

1299

00:42:52,469 --> 00:42:53,003

I think it's

 

1300

00:42:53,003 --> 00:42:53,571

important to

 

1301

00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:56,340

give them a chance to learn some more.

 

1302

00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:57,141

Yeah.

 

1303

00:42:57,141 --> 00:43:00,477

So most four guys are so busy

 

1304

00:43:00,477 --> 00:43:01,712

Steve telling

 

1305

00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:03,847

hey do this coach that saying this,

 

1306

00:43:04,148 --> 00:43:04,481

you know,

 

1307

00:43:04,481 --> 00:43:05,883

whatever, ask them

 

1308

00:43:05,883 --> 00:43:07,451

hey, what do you think?

 

1309

00:43:07,451 --> 00:43:08,352

What if there's something

 

1310

00:43:08,352 --> 00:43:10,888

that we could do better, you know,

 

1311

00:43:10,888 --> 00:43:13,190

and that I think I want to

 

1312

00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:15,759

develop a new flex but

 

1313

00:43:15,759 --> 00:43:17,795

it doesn't have to have

 

1314

00:43:19,830 --> 00:43:21,198

a politically correct.

 

1315

00:43:21,198 --> 00:43:22,499

But no, we do have

 

1316

00:43:22,499 --> 00:43:24,368

hey, what what can we do?

 

1317

00:43:24,368 --> 00:43:25,436

And you'd be surprised

 

1318

00:43:25,436 --> 00:43:27,404

what kind of answers you get.

 

1319

00:43:27,404 --> 00:43:29,673

Yeah.

 

1320

00:43:29,673 --> 00:43:31,442

So going back to relationships,

 

1321

00:43:31,442 --> 00:43:32,276

is there anything else

 

1322

00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:34,111

we're missing on this?

 

1323

00:43:34,211 --> 00:43:35,079

Well, I.

 

1324

00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:37,381

I think the important part is

 

1325

00:43:37,848 --> 00:43:41,185

when we do a job for a builder,

 

1326

00:43:41,418 --> 00:43:43,587

you have a relationship with the builder,

 

1327

00:43:43,587 --> 00:43:47,257

but rarely does the floor contractor ask,

 

1328

00:43:48,025 --> 00:43:49,526

who's the architect?

 

1329

00:43:49,526 --> 00:43:51,228

Is there a designer involved?

 

1330

00:43:51,228 --> 00:43:53,664

Because that architect in turn is doing

 

1331

00:43:54,131 --> 00:43:57,668

10 to 15 builders of that like builder.

 

1332

00:43:58,002 --> 00:44:00,804

And that's potential work right there.

 

1333

00:44:01,505 --> 00:44:03,874

And then if there's a designer involved,

 

1334

00:44:05,042 --> 00:44:06,210

they're designing jobs

 

1335

00:44:06,210 --> 00:44:07,011

all over the place.

 

1336

00:44:07,011 --> 00:44:09,413

So some people cut themselves short

 

1337

00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:11,515

by developing a relationship

 

1338

00:44:11,515 --> 00:44:13,450

with the architect,

 

1339

00:44:13,450 --> 00:44:14,351

because the architect,

 

1340

00:44:14,351 --> 00:44:16,487

you can be their knowledge center

 

1341

00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:18,355

and you can be their sample center

 

1342

00:44:18,355 --> 00:44:19,890

and you'd be surprised with doors

 

1343

00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:21,892

that open opens for you.

 

1344

00:44:21,892 --> 00:44:22,593

What do you think?

 

1345

00:44:22,593 --> 00:44:25,362

So, yeah, absolutely.

 

1346

00:44:25,696 --> 00:44:25,896

Yeah.

 

1347

00:44:25,896 --> 00:44:29,033

I went to a class

 

1348

00:44:29,233 --> 00:44:32,036

in front of the classes in the morning

 

1349

00:44:32,036 --> 00:44:35,072

before the WFA show at the convention,

 

1350

00:44:35,572 --> 00:44:37,708

and Chris Coats and

 

1351

00:44:39,009 --> 00:44:41,145

I don't know somebody else that wasn't

 

1352

00:44:41,145 --> 00:44:43,981

Chris Coats was talking about.

 

1353

00:44:44,815 --> 00:44:47,351

And, you know, architects and designers

 

1354

00:44:48,052 --> 00:44:51,355

and how to interface with them.

 

1355

00:44:52,222 --> 00:44:53,424

And

 

1356

00:44:54,091 --> 00:44:55,592

they're hungry.

 

1357

00:44:55,592 --> 00:44:57,428

They have an idea.

 

1358

00:44:57,428 --> 00:44:59,129

They don't want to recommend

 

1359

00:44:59,129 --> 00:45:00,898

the wrong person because it's split

 

1360

00:45:00,898 --> 00:45:03,901

the splashback is is horrific.

 

1361

00:45:05,636 --> 00:45:07,638

They need to trust someone

 

1362

00:45:07,638 --> 00:45:11,475

to be able to help their the bubble

 

1363

00:45:11,475 --> 00:45:14,945

above their head their idea come to life.

 

1364

00:45:15,879 --> 00:45:16,513

And it's

 

1365

00:45:17,881 --> 00:45:19,717

a hundred feet or a

 

1366

00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:21,952

thousand feet or 10,000 feet

 

1367

00:45:22,786 --> 00:45:24,154

at 10,000 feet.

 

1368

00:45:24,154 --> 00:45:29,693

As a driver, your house depends on the

 

1369

00:45:30,894 --> 00:45:32,663

the products that you put on

 

1370

00:45:32,663 --> 00:45:34,465

and how they wear.

 

1371

00:45:34,465 --> 00:45:37,301

Do they wear enough in an authentic way?

 

1372

00:45:37,801 --> 00:45:40,704

What is the you know,

 

1373

00:45:40,704 --> 00:45:42,306

what is the slip

 

1374

00:45:43,073 --> 00:45:44,975

coefficient ratio?

 

1375

00:45:44,975 --> 00:45:46,610

Is it slippery floors

 

1376

00:45:46,610 --> 00:45:48,879

that is the keeper or can you clean it

 

1377

00:45:50,481 --> 00:45:50,814

well?

 

1378

00:45:50,814 --> 00:45:54,852

Is it abrasion resistant to dogs?

 

1379

00:45:54,952 --> 00:45:55,786

The but

 

1380

00:45:55,786 --> 00:45:58,122

you know the whole that whole nine yards

 

1381

00:45:58,122 --> 00:46:01,592

but a and D architects and designers

 

1382

00:46:02,426 --> 00:46:05,829

are where I focus my efforts

 

1383

00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:09,633

and that drive

 

1384

00:46:09,633 --> 00:46:10,868

of first

 

1385

00:46:10,868 --> 00:46:12,970

refusal on a lot of different projects.

 

1386

00:46:13,771 --> 00:46:16,273

They'll say hey you have to hand

 

1387

00:46:16,273 --> 00:46:16,974

a way.

 

1388

00:46:16,974 --> 00:46:19,209

I got a question for you

 

1389

00:46:19,209 --> 00:46:21,111

before you close up that, Mike,

 

1390

00:46:21,111 --> 00:46:23,280

I just want to talk about

 

1391

00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,481

we're in a recession

 

1392

00:46:24,481 --> 00:46:26,717

or the beginnings of recession

 

1393

00:46:26,717 --> 00:46:28,585

or going through a recession

 

1394

00:46:28,585 --> 00:46:30,220

because I've been through boom

 

1395

00:46:30,220 --> 00:46:32,222

and bust many, many jobs.

 

1396

00:46:32,623 --> 00:46:33,824

I've seen hard times

 

1397

00:46:33,824 --> 00:46:34,892

and I've seen good times.

 

1398

00:46:34,892 --> 00:46:37,361

And it's just like spring always follows.

 

1399

00:46:37,361 --> 00:46:38,095

Winter

 

1400

00:46:38,095 --> 00:46:40,531

after recession, there will be an upturn.

 

1401

00:46:40,931 --> 00:46:43,233

But people out there got to understand

 

1402

00:46:43,233 --> 00:46:45,302

they got to cherish every job they get.

 

1403

00:46:45,302 --> 00:46:47,404

They got to cut their overhead

 

1404

00:46:47,404 --> 00:46:49,173

and they got to be mindful

 

1405

00:46:49,173 --> 00:46:50,908

what they're doing now

 

1406

00:46:50,908 --> 00:46:53,610

to get through it, because everybody

 

1407

00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:54,745

can not everyone's going

 

1408

00:46:54,745 --> 00:46:56,847

to get through certain hard times,

 

1409

00:46:56,847 --> 00:47:00,651

but it's best to face it right now

 

1410

00:47:01,218 --> 00:47:02,786

and cherish every job

 

1411

00:47:02,786 --> 00:47:04,922

and chase down like it's your last.

 

1412

00:47:04,922 --> 00:47:06,490

And to get through it

 

1413

00:47:06,490 --> 00:47:07,991

and I think is important

 

1414

00:47:07,991 --> 00:47:09,393

because it's going to hit

 

1415

00:47:09,393 --> 00:47:10,861

some people a blindsided.

 

1416

00:47:10,861 --> 00:47:13,096

I see things tightening up out there

 

1417

00:47:13,597 --> 00:47:14,798

and it's going to it's

 

1418

00:47:14,798 --> 00:47:16,099

going to be all over the place

 

1419

00:47:16,099 --> 00:47:18,468

for distributors, manufacturers,

 

1420

00:47:19,303 --> 00:47:21,672

contractors, builders, you name it.

 

1421

00:47:21,672 --> 00:47:22,940

But we found the

 

1422

00:47:23,941 --> 00:47:24,641

cut, cut,

 

1423

00:47:24,641 --> 00:47:26,310

cut your fist, fixed cost

 

1424

00:47:26,310 --> 00:47:28,245

as fast as possible,

 

1425

00:47:28,245 --> 00:47:29,746

your overhead, your insurance,

 

1426

00:47:29,746 --> 00:47:32,316

whatever you can do to reduce your rent,

 

1427

00:47:32,749 --> 00:47:34,418

whatever you can do to reduce.

 

1428

00:47:34,418 --> 00:47:38,455

And I think each job I think your if you

 

1429

00:47:38,655 --> 00:47:43,460

your accounts receivable,

 

1430

00:47:43,460 --> 00:47:45,729

they're paid in a timely fashion.

 

1431

00:47:46,163 --> 00:47:47,798

We'll cut your overhead

 

1432

00:47:47,798 --> 00:47:48,398

because you won't be

 

1433

00:47:48,398 --> 00:47:50,033

carrying your customers.

 

1434

00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:51,001

Yeah, yeah.

 

1435

00:47:51,001 --> 00:47:52,803

And good point.

 

1436

00:47:52,803 --> 00:47:55,639

Accounts receivable in in

 

1437

00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:58,075

this climate are

 

1438

00:47:59,509 --> 00:48:00,510

are tricky

 

1439

00:48:00,510 --> 00:48:01,612

because you know

 

1440

00:48:01,612 --> 00:48:04,348

we're not the only ones in jeopardy

 

1441

00:48:04,348 --> 00:48:07,084

is the builder that's playing

 

1442

00:48:08,585 --> 00:48:11,288

with a deck and a half of cards

 

1443

00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:12,389

and he's out.

 

1444

00:48:12,389 --> 00:48:15,659

It's always worked for him in the past.

 

1445

00:48:15,659 --> 00:48:18,161

If that guy if that guy goes belly up

 

1446

00:48:18,996 --> 00:48:23,200

and he owes you a bunch of money, then

 

1447

00:48:24,868 --> 00:48:26,370

that's not good.

 

1448

00:48:26,403 --> 00:48:28,338

You're not going to get that money.

 

1449

00:48:28,338 --> 00:48:29,907

And the piece of paper

 

1450

00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:32,442

that that judgment is written on

 

1451

00:48:32,442 --> 00:48:33,911

is worth

 

1452

00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:36,046

the piece of paper that it's written on.

 

1453

00:48:36,046 --> 00:48:36,480

Yeah.

 

1454

00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,282

Don't be afraid to cut off

 

1455

00:48:38,282 --> 00:48:39,483

a builder is some

 

1456

00:48:39,483 --> 00:48:42,019

you got to draw a line in the sand

 

1457

00:48:42,019 --> 00:48:43,887

in your accounts payable.

 

1458

00:48:43,887 --> 00:48:46,690

If you can't make that for full payment

 

1459

00:48:46,690 --> 00:48:47,991

to that distributor,

 

1460

00:48:47,991 --> 00:48:49,760

you need to call them up on the phone.

 

1461

00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,528

Don't go into the witness protection

 

1462

00:48:51,528 --> 00:48:52,996

program and disappear.

 

1463

00:48:52,996 --> 00:48:55,265

You say Here I can pay half.

 

1464

00:48:55,265 --> 00:48:57,067

I can be a quarter long.

 

1465

00:48:57,067 --> 00:48:58,802

As you make timely payments,

 

1466

00:48:58,802 --> 00:49:00,070

I will respect you.

 

1467

00:49:00,070 --> 00:49:02,906

You'll keep that material coming to you.

 

1468

00:49:03,307 --> 00:49:04,508

But you got to

 

1469

00:49:04,508 --> 00:49:06,777

you got to send them something.

 

1470

00:49:06,777 --> 00:49:10,414

That that is that is so so, so smart.

 

1471

00:49:10,414 --> 00:49:12,149

Such good information right there

 

1472

00:49:12,149 --> 00:49:14,484

in this area because, yeah, you want to

 

1473

00:49:14,484 --> 00:49:15,419

you know,

 

1474

00:49:15,452 --> 00:49:16,586

the tendency for some people

 

1475

00:49:16,586 --> 00:49:17,220

is, well, gosh,

 

1476

00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:19,556

I can't show my face there.

 

1477

00:49:19,556 --> 00:49:20,791

You're going to need that distributor.

 

1478

00:49:20,791 --> 00:49:21,792

So you would really definitely

 

1479

00:49:21,792 --> 00:49:22,492

want to go in there, work

 

1480

00:49:22,492 --> 00:49:23,627

something out with them if you get,

 

1481

00:49:23,627 --> 00:49:24,761

I guess, to be the case.

 

1482

00:49:24,761 --> 00:49:25,162

But yeah,

 

1483

00:49:25,162 --> 00:49:25,862

send them something,

 

1484

00:49:25,862 --> 00:49:27,030

keep that relationship going.

 

1485

00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:29,166

You know, in the worst case scenario.

 

1486

00:49:29,166 --> 00:49:30,200

And what a great way

 

1487

00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,501

to keep that relationship.

 

1488

00:49:31,501 --> 00:49:33,870

We do go to them and say, hey,

 

1489

00:49:33,870 --> 00:49:35,672

you know, we're all in this together.

 

1490

00:49:35,672 --> 00:49:37,207

I'm going to I'm

 

1491

00:49:37,207 --> 00:49:37,808

anyway, I,

 

1492

00:49:37,808 --> 00:49:39,276

like you said, there's Sprague.

 

1493

00:49:39,276 --> 00:49:41,678

Don't go into witness protection.

 

1494

00:49:41,678 --> 00:49:43,080

Sit down.

 

1495

00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,048

Talk it out with them. Yeah, absolutely.

 

1496

00:49:45,048 --> 00:49:45,649

Did

 

1497

00:49:46,283 --> 00:49:47,818

they know what you're going with that?

 

1498

00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:48,418

Yes, I'm.

 

1499

00:49:48,418 --> 00:49:50,420

Sure you pay them a quarter,

 

1500

00:49:50,420 --> 00:49:52,055

a loaf, a fifth of a loaf.

 

1501

00:49:52,055 --> 00:49:54,124

Just keep that keep. That's right.

 

1502

00:49:54,124 --> 00:49:55,592

Nobody cut you off

 

1503

00:49:55,592 --> 00:49:57,828

if you're really honestly trying.

 

1504

00:49:57,828 --> 00:49:59,062

And they've been through it.

 

1505

00:49:59,062 --> 00:50:01,431

All right. For sure.

 

1506

00:50:01,631 --> 00:50:02,099

Very good.

 

1507

00:50:02,099 --> 00:50:03,033

Well, that's great.

 

1508

00:50:03,033 --> 00:50:04,401

That's a great

 

1509

00:50:04,401 --> 00:50:05,836

that's a great way to sign off.

 

1510

00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:06,903

Sprague, thanks.

 

1511

00:50:06,903 --> 00:50:10,007

Yeah, well, you can tell

 

1512

00:50:10,007 --> 00:50:11,441

my voice is getting worse by this

 

1513

00:50:11,441 --> 00:50:12,609

by the second here.

 

1514

00:50:12,609 --> 00:50:15,145

So, Steve, I'm glad you came on

 

1515

00:50:15,145 --> 00:50:15,979

and I'd actually like

 

1516

00:50:15,979 --> 00:50:16,947

to have you back on.

 

1517

00:50:16,947 --> 00:50:18,248

Yeah, yeah. There was a

 

1518

00:50:19,449 --> 00:50:20,183

conversation about

 

1519

00:50:20,183 --> 00:50:20,817

colors is

 

1520

00:50:20,817 --> 00:50:22,419

a long conversation

 

1521

00:50:22,419 --> 00:50:23,587

and I know we can go

 

1522

00:50:23,587 --> 00:50:25,222

a hundred different directions

 

1523

00:50:25,222 --> 00:50:28,625

so yeah, I appreciate it on and it is.

 

1524

00:50:29,693 --> 00:50:30,360

Go ahead.

 

1525

00:50:30,761 --> 00:50:33,063

Yes, it's

 

1526

00:50:33,063 --> 00:50:37,801

it's nice talking to you guys, too.

 

1527

00:50:37,801 --> 00:50:38,702

I think

 

1528

00:50:38,702 --> 00:50:39,703

we've touched

 

1529

00:50:39,703 --> 00:50:43,173

on a bunch of different topics, but

 

1530

00:50:43,306 --> 00:50:44,975

the witness protection programs,

 

1531

00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:47,210

probably the most interesting one ones,

 

1532

00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:49,746

you know, worried about you.

 

1533

00:50:50,781 --> 00:50:53,717

Hey, I tell you what, if anyone's

 

1534

00:50:53,717 --> 00:50:55,052

listening to this podcast

 

1535

00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:57,087

and hopefully there's millions of them,

 

1536

00:50:57,087 --> 00:50:59,723

if they got a question from one of us

 

1537

00:50:59,723 --> 00:51:01,892

or they got a question for me,

 

1538

00:51:01,892 --> 00:51:03,093

feel free to call me.

 

1539

00:51:03,093 --> 00:51:05,095

I love to talk floors.

 

1540

00:51:05,095 --> 00:51:06,730

This is all I've talked my whole life.

 

1541

00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:09,366

So I'm out there for anyone I can help

 

1542

00:51:10,133 --> 00:51:12,536

except for that guy that got that water

 

1543

00:51:12,936 --> 00:51:16,273

Friday.

 

1544

00:51:16,273 --> 00:51:18,341

Well, that's very generous of you.

 

1545

00:51:19,076 --> 00:51:19,743

Great for that.

 

1546

00:51:19,743 --> 00:51:20,544

I appreciate that.

 

1547

00:51:20,544 --> 00:51:22,279

And Steve, I know the same.

 

1548

00:51:22,279 --> 00:51:23,580

So we'll put the information out there.

 

1549

00:51:23,580 --> 00:51:25,348

Everybody's out there.

 

1550

00:51:25,348 --> 00:51:27,250

And thank you guys very much.

 

1551

00:51:27,250 --> 00:51:28,218

Appreciate it.

 

1552

00:51:28,218 --> 00:51:29,553

Thank you, sir.

 

1553

00:51:29,553 --> 00:51:30,654

Have a good weekend.

 

1554

00:51:30,654 --> 00:51:32,689

Yeah, you guys do the same take.

 

1555

00:51:32,689 --> 00:51:33,690

Thanks, guys.

 

1556

00:51:33,824 --> 00:51:34,858

Bye bye.

 

1557

00:51:34,858 --> 00:51:36,993

How about you wrap that up instead of me?

 

1558

00:51:36,993 --> 00:51:37,928

Oh, well.

 

1559

00:51:37,928 --> 00:51:39,663

Oh, my poor buddy's voice.

 

1560

00:51:39,663 --> 00:51:40,931

You know, guys,

 

1561

00:51:40,931 --> 00:51:42,933

before we started the show, I said ways

 

1562

00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:45,402

your voice sounds.

 

1563

00:51:45,402 --> 00:51:46,236

Voice sounds funny.

 

1564

00:51:46,236 --> 00:51:47,104

York And he's like, There,

 

1565

00:51:47,104 --> 00:51:48,738

my voice is fine.

 

1566

00:51:48,738 --> 00:51:50,373

My voice is fine.

 

1567

00:51:50,373 --> 00:51:54,311

And now 2 hours later, you can't speak.

 

1568

00:51:54,578 --> 00:51:55,479

Okay?

 

1569

00:51:55,479 --> 00:51:56,046

You tell me

 

1570

00:51:56,046 --> 00:51:58,014

I shouldn't be working for Teladoc.

 

1571

00:51:58,014 --> 00:52:00,450

I heard it just like that.

 

1572

00:52:00,717 --> 00:52:01,785

You're good.

 

1573

00:52:01,785 --> 00:52:03,153

Feel better, buddy?

 

1574

00:52:03,153 --> 00:52:04,387

I try to power through the day.

 

1575

00:52:04,387 --> 00:52:05,021

This has been

 

1576

00:52:05,021 --> 00:52:07,090

another episode of On the Floor

 

1577

00:52:07,090 --> 00:52:08,825

with Wayne and Rob.

 

1578

00:52:08,825 --> 00:52:18,735

Please stay tuned for our next episode.