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Hello.
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And welcome to another award
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winning episode of On the Floor
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with Wayne and Rob.
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I'm Wayne Highlander
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with Bowen adhesives.
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I'm Rob Johnson with d bone training.
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You know, you know what I see?
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guy.
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He's had an operation.
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He's kind of doped up.
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He's in a walker,
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but still he shows up for the show.
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He loves you people.
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That's why he does it.
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I, I gotta put this knee on.
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I so bad, when I started seeing that.
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So maybe it's the,
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It's the pills that I'm still on.
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When I said hello, everybody.
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Remind me of,
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one of the greatest songs
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in country music.
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The best opening line in country music.
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One of the all time greatest
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two words in country music.
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Hello, darling.
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Can't wait 20
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and is still a classic.
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you were going to.
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I thought you were going to go with.
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Hello. I'm Johnny Cash.
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Well, it's not a it's it.
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He started all his, concerts and shows.
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I saw him
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in a very intimate setting, and,
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and he came out and he goes, yes,
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hello,
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I'm Johnny Cash,
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and then the hair on the back of my neck
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stood up.
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Yeah,
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I listen to him since I was six years old
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and finally got a chance
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to see him on stage,
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and his wife, June Carter.
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Came out and, my, my,
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my, sister in law,
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who'd been in the music business
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her whole life, was jaded about music.
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People and all the, you know, crap
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you had to put up with
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and all the years and, the expectations,
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everything said that him and June, June.
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We're probably the two nicest people
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she's ever met in the business.
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Wow.
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Pretty cool.
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Yeah, that was late in his career.
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All right.
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So we did.
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know, you and I,
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with our job, we do a lot of flying,
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right?
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And I never,
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I never have any issues with
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with TSA or or,
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you know, if a flight is canceled,
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That man.
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Yeah.
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Oh.
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No kidding.
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Yeah.
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Know.
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You know.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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So, Yeah.
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I've met her.
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The groin area?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Do I.
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Know.
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Getting better.
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I'm going to go get some
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popcorn.
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Hey.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah.
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I was like,
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one of Bill Price's fantasies.
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Yeah, yeah,
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that's pretty intrusive.
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What?
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What airport was this?
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Bucket list.
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Bucket list.
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Albany. Yeah.
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I get it.
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Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
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Pretty good.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Very creepy when you do that.
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It's very creepy when you doing all that.
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The hands.
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Did you tell?
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Did you tell them to tell me?
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You know what?
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It's cool to use it for your hand.
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Been a long time
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since you had that much attention.
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Well,
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You.
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Your pants are falling off.
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down to grab my pants.
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Finally, I'm like,
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all right,
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buddy, you're you're
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the one on your knees, Yeah.
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yeah.
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Wow.
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these guys said,
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hook your hands into your belt loops and
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hold you.
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I was like, oh, okay.
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Wow.
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I don't think that.
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I don't think that's very
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sound advice, though.
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back.
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So I'm telling this to my niece.
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We're at
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a, We're at a funeral over the weekend
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and at the,
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you know, the after funeral thing.
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I'm telling her,
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you know, bunch of people that story,
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she's
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Oh, okay.
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It's tough.
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I'll be darned.
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Well,
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not for a floor man.
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Because. Yeah.
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Because I get a lot of things
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on the back of my hand
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before you get into my blood system.
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Better.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah.
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I said you're. You're crazy.
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That's not it.
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She goes, that's definitely it.
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I go, I I'm sorry,
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I know you're a nurse and everything
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I don't have the background for,
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but I am definitely not going to agree
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with you. There.
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I, I agree with you on this.
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I think it's just
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because it's more likely
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you can get in trouble
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with the front of the hand.
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Creepy. Yeah.
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All right.
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I,
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you remind me of a story
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I want to tell us real quick,
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and we can take it out
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if we don't have enough time, I would.
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I had to go to California to,
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to Colorado, and,
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I had a nice depsite truck.
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I was a young kid, 18, 19 years old.
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And on the way there,
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on my butt, I had, like, a
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bad pimple or something. Right.
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It was, like, really bad.
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I tell you, this.
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So I'm driving on the way there,
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and it's getting worse
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and worse and worse.
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And I feel back there and it's like,
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it's right on my tailbone.
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The bottom, I tell bone, is like, man,
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this thing is huge.
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And it is so painful.
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So three days driving there.
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By the time
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I got to there, to my brother's place,
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he was in the Army at the time,
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Fort Carson.
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And I get there.
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I could barely well, I guess it there you
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I go, man.
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And somehow I'm like,
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but man,
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I got something that just kill me,
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you know? I mean, you got hemorrhoids.
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That's all right.
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I'm stupid, kid, I don't know, I am.
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Roids are whatever.
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It wasn't what it was.
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But anyhow, now I have to drive home.
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Robin is now some size, like a golf ball.
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And it is so painful
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that I can't even harder
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to get out to pump gas in my truck now.
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And at one point I went to a gas station
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to get something to eat.
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Not a gas station in the restaurant
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to get something to eat.
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I ordered breakfast
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and I couldn't even stay to eat.
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I I got up when I had to leave.
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I couldn't go to a hotel, sleep
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in a hotel at night
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because just moving
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that much, it was like
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unbelievable agony.
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In fact, that
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one time I pulled over on
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the side of the road
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was next to an airport.
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A police officer came up behind me.
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He goes,
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you know,
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you can't park here, blah, blah.
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I'm sure your license is at the other.
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He goes, what's going on, man?
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I'm in such pain, man.
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I can't even move.
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And I, you know,
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how do you explain
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what's going on with your butt?
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So.
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And I get home
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and I could barely walk in the house,
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but I'm not going to marry you.
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I said, man, is something wrong with me?
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And pulled out a pencil goes,
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oh my God, you got a little doctor?
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That was a cyst that was on my butt.
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Okay, so I go to doctor, and
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now.
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So I call the doctor and
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he's the size of a golf ball.
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So, anyhow, I've an emergency room,
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and he brings me to this other place,
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and they're going to Lancet right
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now, right.
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And so he goes, all right, take off your,
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you know, your pants and shoes
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and all this.
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And, you know,
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I've had the same shoes
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and socks on for three days.
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Now, I don't know about your family,
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but
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our feet and the island of the world
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are not good. After even a day.
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I don't care how many times
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you take a bath or whatever
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it is in this,
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you got the worst
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smelling feet of all time.
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So, yeah,
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as soon as I take out
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my shoes, I go, God, this is so bad.
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Doctor comes in with a clipboard
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and he starts smelling. He goes.
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What?
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What what's that smell to to the nurse.
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And he goes,
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is she still throwing up over there
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to the person
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that was in the next book, right.
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And, and the other guy on the other side
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had his stomach pumped
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and he goes check on chicken on him next.
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What's going on over there?
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And he goes that I don't know that
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that smell.
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And then finally,
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I think the realization hit him, yeah.
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Damn, dude.
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Anyhow,
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it's the the.
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But he
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but so he laid me
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down on my stomach to lancet.
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But he was bringing in other doctors.
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He goes there.
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It is the worst that one I've ever seen.
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Yeah, he got to see this.
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And then they.
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Then they stuff it with gauze
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and then you
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got to pull the guys out later.
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And every,
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every 16th of an inch that was like ten.
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It was miserable.
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All right. We got a show to do today.
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We started talking
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on the last show
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about some of the things that.
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Know.
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Well, we
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we can probably.
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And, we can cut one of them out,
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and they cut mine out.
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All right.
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We started talking
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on our last show about,
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improvements in technology
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and things that Bono has done
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over the last number of years.
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And we got about halfway
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through the list and realized,
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you know what?
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There have been so many
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that we can't
347
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possibly get it all in one day.
348
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So we're going to do a
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this is the part two of that show.
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We want to
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we want to, start off it from.
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Okay.
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a combination of all.
354
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We know that these products are awesome.
355
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We know that people love them.
356
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But one of the issues was
357
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they were a little difficult
358
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to work with sometimes,
359
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especially on
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pattern type flaws and everything.
361
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So with the invention of clear Seal
362
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and how much everybody loved that
363
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and how user friendly Clear Seal was,
364
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they took that clear seal platform
365
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and they started making natural seal
366
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and Nordic seal out of the clear seal.
367
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So once again,
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it's just one of those things where
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we hear you, we're listening to you.
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We we get it. Okay.
371
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Those products could
372
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sometimes be a little tricky
373
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if it wasn't just a regular straight run.
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How can we help?
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How can we help you? What can we do?
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And the, you
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know, the product management
378
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team or the lab guys or whoever,
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everybody involved in that one.
380
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But, make the new natural a new Nordic
381
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out of the clear seal platinum
382
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was, I think, just really.
383
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And it definitely if you haven't used,
384
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because I do have some.
385
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But, you know,
386
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I stopped using the Nordic Seal.
387
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I'm like, you got to try it
388
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Yep.
389
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Yep.
390
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Yeah.
391
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I, you know,
392
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like you said so many times before,
393
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I mean,
394
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you know how many times
395
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you sanded a floor
396
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and there's just pristinely sanded,
397
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and they were like, oh, my God,
398
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if you just leave it like this
399
00:17:01,887 --> 00:17:03,856
and you go and love them too much, there
400
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we go.
401
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We can't do that.
402
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We have to put something on it.
403
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And then there goes the color.
404
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And then you can see that,
405
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you know, their expectations weren't
406
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they were slightly
407
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disappointed
408
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because it was had more color
409
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than they wanted.
410
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So to be able
411
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to answer
412
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those two questions has been very nice.
413
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So it's been a, and now making music
414
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more user friendly has been nice too. So.
415
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All right,
416
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I just remembered
417
00:17:28,347 --> 00:17:31,050
I have to mention this on the show.
418
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I was on tech line the other day,
419
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and a guy calls up and he's like,
420
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I need to talk to somebody about tanning.
421
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Pull.
422
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And he goes, who am I speaking to?
423
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And I said, Rob Johnson.
424
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And he goes,
425
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I'm looking.
426
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Are you kidding me?
427
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That is too funny now
428
00:18:07,453 --> 00:18:10,456
to to say.
429
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Yeah.
430
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That that.
431
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That's funny.
432
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Beautiful.
433
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I'll take it.
434
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The diamond plates Yeah.
435
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Yeah.
436
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Yeah.
437
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Yeah.
438
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Those job.
439
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,003
Yeah. Yeah.
440
00:19:31,003 --> 00:19:34,006
But, man, I mean, you know,
441
00:19:34,106 --> 00:19:37,075
sanding aluminum oxide floor
442
00:19:37,075 --> 00:19:38,043
was such a nightmare.
443
00:19:38,043 --> 00:19:39,878
You go through so much paper,
444
00:19:39,878 --> 00:19:41,113
you know, and take the 80 grit.
445
00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:42,514
The use 80 grit
446
00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:43,849
hit with the 80 grit first.
447
00:19:43,849 --> 00:19:44,483
You know what I mean.
448
00:19:44,483 --> 00:19:46,251
We to go through that thing,
449
00:19:46,251 --> 00:19:48,220
changing the paper all the time.
450
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Versus putting on the,
451
00:19:49,955 --> 00:19:51,823
the diamond plates,
452
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is a big time game changer.
453
00:19:54,993 --> 00:19:57,996
Yeah.
454
00:20:02,301 --> 00:20:05,304
Okay.
455
00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:12,945
Well.
456
00:20:22,487 --> 00:20:22,921
Yeah.
457
00:20:22,921 --> 00:20:23,722
So, I mean,
458
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I still,
459
00:20:24,323 --> 00:20:26,525
where I flat 40 is a great product
460
00:20:26,525 --> 00:20:27,459
and works really well.
461
00:20:27,459 --> 00:20:28,594
We still sell it.
462
00:20:28,594 --> 00:20:29,528
And,
463
00:20:29,528 --> 00:20:31,363
it is a primer when it comes
464
00:20:31,363 --> 00:20:33,532
to, like, OSB type products.
465
00:20:33,532 --> 00:20:36,201
And,
466
00:20:36,201 --> 00:20:37,669
it does a great job,
467
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:40,272
but it does have a longer drying time,
468
00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:43,275
so when it, when it comes in the, regard
469
00:20:43,442 --> 00:20:44,543
the few things that, that,
470
00:20:44,543 --> 00:20:45,477
that is unique about it,
471
00:20:45,477 --> 00:20:46,211
the different about it
472
00:20:46,211 --> 00:20:48,513
and then the 541 is it,
473
00:20:48,513 --> 00:20:50,782
it has a color to it which I like.
474
00:20:50,782 --> 00:20:52,351
You can see where you hit and everything,
475
00:20:52,351 --> 00:20:53,218
and the homeowner can see
476
00:20:53,218 --> 00:20:55,020
where they spend their money.
477
00:20:55,020 --> 00:20:55,921
But it dries
478
00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:57,756
in, in about an hour to have two, one,
479
00:20:57,756 --> 00:20:59,524
one and a half to two hours.
480
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You get right back on the product,
481
00:21:01,193 --> 00:21:02,661
which is really nice.
482
00:21:02,661 --> 00:21:03,195
The other thing
483
00:21:03,195 --> 00:21:04,596
too, is it
484
00:21:04,596 --> 00:21:07,165
we talked about the green gold system
485
00:21:07,165 --> 00:21:08,367
that you're,
486
00:21:08,367 --> 00:21:10,535
giving something to the homeowner
487
00:21:10,535 --> 00:21:11,937
that doesn't increase
488
00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:13,338
indoor air pollution in the house.
489
00:21:14,406 --> 00:21:15,507
It's safe for children,
490
00:21:15,507 --> 00:21:16,908
schools and hospitals.
491
00:21:16,908 --> 00:21:19,011
So you don't get any safer than that.
492
00:21:19,011 --> 00:21:21,313
And, it does a great job with the
493
00:21:21,313 --> 00:21:22,748
with moisture. Still.
494
00:21:22,748 --> 00:21:23,849
Still in this industry.
495
00:21:23,849 --> 00:21:26,952
You want the biggest, cause
496
00:21:26,952 --> 00:21:29,988
for failure is moisture on these jobs.
497
00:21:30,589 --> 00:21:31,490
And, you know,
498
00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:32,824
you see these bigger
499
00:21:32,824 --> 00:21:33,992
homebuilders and stuff,
500
00:21:33,992 --> 00:21:35,560
which is going to lead
501
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,563
to products in that world.
502
00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:41,500
You know, plastic doesn't do anything
503
00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:43,201
to stop the moisture
504
00:21:43,201 --> 00:21:45,170
from coming to this lab.
505
00:21:45,170 --> 00:21:48,173
And these these MVP type products also
506
00:21:48,573 --> 00:21:50,442
do not let moisture to pass through.
507
00:21:50,442 --> 00:21:51,476
Right?
508
00:21:51,476 --> 00:21:55,213
So, you know, the complaints of, like,
509
00:21:55,213 --> 00:21:55,447
you know,
510
00:21:55,447 --> 00:21:57,049
there's a musty smell in the house
511
00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,551
is that and the other or sometimes,
512
00:21:59,551 --> 00:22:00,352
you know, my bottom,
513
00:22:00,352 --> 00:22:01,820
my baseboards are turning dark
514
00:22:01,820 --> 00:22:03,188
or the water can go out
515
00:22:03,188 --> 00:22:04,222
and affect the framing
516
00:22:04,222 --> 00:22:05,324
members and everything else.
517
00:22:06,358 --> 00:22:08,327
You know, I know sometimes
518
00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:09,761
the manufacturers
519
00:22:09,761 --> 00:22:12,764
say you have to use plastic, so
520
00:22:13,565 --> 00:22:14,833
I don't remember the name of it.
521
00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:15,934
Which one it was.
522
00:22:15,934 --> 00:22:18,904
But ASTM, just came out with a new,
523
00:22:18,904 --> 00:22:20,372
allowing a liquid,
524
00:22:20,372 --> 00:22:21,173
vapor barrier
525
00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:23,108
underneath those products now.
526
00:22:23,108 --> 00:22:27,446
So, and using it in lieu of building
527
00:22:27,446 --> 00:22:30,449
paper or, along with building paper,
528
00:22:31,616 --> 00:22:32,684
plastic, rather
529
00:22:32,684 --> 00:22:35,821
in lieu of plastic or as well as plastic.
530
00:22:36,154 --> 00:22:38,824
It can be a great, great way to go
531
00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:40,392
with those type of floors,
532
00:22:40,392 --> 00:22:42,394
or certainly for wood floors as well.
533
00:22:42,394 --> 00:22:45,330
It's you know,
534
00:22:45,330 --> 00:22:46,932
we talk about the advances
535
00:22:46,932 --> 00:22:48,734
in the industry.
536
00:22:48,734 --> 00:22:50,736
What,
537
00:22:50,736 --> 00:22:51,536
when you went to bed
538
00:22:51,536 --> 00:22:52,671
at night doing floors,
539
00:22:52,671 --> 00:22:54,172
my biggest concern, bar
540
00:22:54,172 --> 00:22:57,075
none, was my floors cupping.
541
00:22:57,075 --> 00:22:58,710
That was my biggest concern
542
00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:01,446
that I always had is like, man,
543
00:23:01,446 --> 00:23:01,947
you know, there's
544
00:23:01,947 --> 00:23:03,815
no good answer for that, right?
545
00:23:03,815 --> 00:23:05,450
So if there was a product
546
00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:06,985
that we could put down
547
00:23:06,985 --> 00:23:08,286
that would help alleviate
548
00:23:08,286 --> 00:23:10,689
those concerns, man,
549
00:23:10,689 --> 00:23:11,623
it's a it's
550
00:23:11,623 --> 00:23:14,259
you know, it's not a no brainer to me.
551
00:23:14,259 --> 00:23:15,894
So,
552
00:23:17,562 --> 00:23:19,297
like I said, I like the R5 40,
553
00:23:19,297 --> 00:23:20,399
but I love it.
554
00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:22,334
I love the dry time of the Royal Guard.
555
00:23:22,334 --> 00:23:24,302
And I like the color of the Royal Guard.
556
00:23:24,302 --> 00:23:26,571
So I think that's been a big improvement.
557
00:23:26,571 --> 00:23:29,574
For us.
558
00:23:35,547 --> 00:23:38,550
Yeah, yeah.
559
00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:41,920
Yeah.
560
00:23:42,454 --> 00:23:45,424
If you're if you're just.
561
00:23:45,924 --> 00:23:47,959
If you're if you're using R5 40
562
00:23:47,959 --> 00:23:48,326
and you're
563
00:23:48,326 --> 00:23:50,595
just going to nail the floor down,
564
00:23:50,595 --> 00:23:52,931
give it an hour and a half and so and go,
565
00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:54,199
you don't have to wait.
566
00:23:54,199 --> 00:23:55,500
It's just when you're using the adhesive
567
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,470
that you have to wait. Yeah.
568
00:23:58,470 --> 00:24:01,106
So I mean like I said that probably.
569
00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:02,541
But
570
00:24:02,541 --> 00:24:04,609
what concerns if you read a write down
571
00:24:04,609 --> 00:24:06,545
the top three concerns,
572
00:24:06,545 --> 00:24:08,180
being in business,
573
00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:11,183
of course, you would get from a homeowner
574
00:24:11,516 --> 00:24:12,517
how you would rank them.
575
00:24:13,718 --> 00:24:14,152
I think
576
00:24:14,152 --> 00:24:15,187
probably my biggest
577
00:24:15,187 --> 00:24:16,054
concern would be that
578
00:24:16,054 --> 00:24:18,423
the floor is cupping or shrinking.
579
00:24:18,423 --> 00:24:18,690
Right.
580
00:24:18,690 --> 00:24:20,725
That's probably the two biggest.
581
00:24:20,725 --> 00:24:22,461
And, what would be after that?
582
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:22,994
I don't know,
583
00:24:22,994 --> 00:24:24,563
but what would be the third
584
00:24:24,563 --> 00:24:25,163
one after that?
585
00:24:25,163 --> 00:24:25,797
Those are the be
586
00:24:25,797 --> 00:24:28,800
the big two biggest concerns.
587
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,003
Yep yep yep.
588
00:24:35,207 --> 00:24:36,808
I never really had the premature
589
00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:39,811
wear calls or peeling calls.
590
00:24:41,746 --> 00:24:44,082
Yeah.
591
00:24:44,082 --> 00:24:44,583
Yeah.
592
00:24:44,583 --> 00:24:47,552
Okay.
593
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:54,226
Yeah,
594
00:24:54,226 --> 00:24:56,595
yeah.
595
00:24:56,595 --> 00:24:59,598
All right.
596
00:25:02,767 --> 00:25:04,503
So we know.
597
00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:05,203
So our flagship
598
00:25:05,203 --> 00:25:07,873
product has always been our 851,
599
00:25:07,873 --> 00:25:09,474
and it comes in a three gallon pail.
600
00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:11,676
So, Eileen, Elisa.
601
00:25:11,676 --> 00:25:14,679
And, it's been just
602
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:16,648
burning up the charts for us.
603
00:25:16,648 --> 00:25:18,617
It's been a great product for us.
604
00:25:18,617 --> 00:25:21,052
Then a few years ago, we came out with,
605
00:25:21,052 --> 00:25:24,055
mono quantum flow comes in, for example.
606
00:25:24,389 --> 00:25:25,657
What I like about that one,
607
00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:27,425
I mean, they're both both great.
608
00:25:27,425 --> 00:25:28,193
More protection.
609
00:25:28,193 --> 00:25:29,027
Both have all the same
610
00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:29,661
bells and whistles.
611
00:25:29,661 --> 00:25:30,795
Although we can give you
612
00:25:30,795 --> 00:25:32,197
unlimited moisture protection with
613
00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:33,231
mono quantum flow.
614
00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:34,566
All right,
615
00:25:34,566 --> 00:25:37,569
51, we can give you up to 18,095 RH.
616
00:25:38,503 --> 00:25:40,005
So
617
00:25:40,005 --> 00:25:41,506
but the bonus quantum flow
618
00:25:41,506 --> 00:25:43,241
I wanted something that
619
00:25:43,241 --> 00:25:45,076
we pour out of the pails
620
00:25:45,076 --> 00:25:46,077
a little bit easier
621
00:25:46,077 --> 00:25:48,380
and would travel easier.
622
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:48,914
You know,
623
00:25:48,914 --> 00:25:50,649
we look at both ends of the spectrum
624
00:25:50,649 --> 00:25:52,183
in this industry.
625
00:25:52,183 --> 00:25:52,984
I think the average age
626
00:25:52,984 --> 00:25:55,287
is like 56 years old now,
627
00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:56,521
or they're or they're young kids
628
00:25:56,521 --> 00:25:57,822
coming into the trade.
629
00:25:57,822 --> 00:25:59,024
And it's sometimes shocking
630
00:25:59,024 --> 00:26:00,792
how hard you have to work.
631
00:26:00,792 --> 00:26:04,095
So, to have a user friendly product
632
00:26:04,095 --> 00:26:06,197
like that, it's been a big deal for us.
633
00:26:06,197 --> 00:26:06,765
And of course, now
634
00:26:06,765 --> 00:26:08,867
we came out with our 824
635
00:26:08,867 --> 00:26:10,535
engineered floors only.
636
00:26:10,535 --> 00:26:13,305
A great economical price.
637
00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:15,707
Engineered floors up to ten inches wide.
638
00:26:15,707 --> 00:26:16,741
If you're not as concerned
639
00:26:16,741 --> 00:26:18,910
about moisture, it's a good option.
640
00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:20,078
So they give you up to
641
00:26:20,078 --> 00:26:22,047
6080 RH on that one.
642
00:26:31,156 --> 00:26:31,456
Yeah.
643
00:26:31,456 --> 00:26:33,525
And you know.
644
00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:35,327
Yeah
645
00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:37,896
yeah.
646
00:26:37,896 --> 00:26:39,898
Well what it's the what
647
00:26:39,898 --> 00:26:41,600
that segment of our industry is,
648
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,002
just absolutely blown up.
649
00:26:44,002 --> 00:26:47,072
It has been so well received.
650
00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:48,340
It is so much more user
651
00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:49,541
friendly than, than,
652
00:26:49,541 --> 00:26:50,342
some of the urethane
653
00:26:50,342 --> 00:26:52,510
that we use back in the day.
654
00:26:52,510 --> 00:26:53,311
The moisture protection
655
00:26:53,311 --> 00:26:54,045
is off the charts.
656
00:26:54,045 --> 00:26:55,447
The sheer protection is
657
00:26:55,447 --> 00:26:56,881
the sheer strength is off the charts.
658
00:26:56,881 --> 00:26:58,316
Tens of strength.
659
00:26:58,316 --> 00:27:00,318
I mean it all gation
660
00:27:00,318 --> 00:27:01,252
any way
661
00:27:01,252 --> 00:27:03,154
anybody metric that you can measure in
662
00:27:03,154 --> 00:27:05,056
and adhesive we are
663
00:27:05,056 --> 00:27:05,757
I think it is
664
00:27:05,757 --> 00:27:07,692
transparent probably more transparent
665
00:27:07,692 --> 00:27:09,494
than any other company I've ever seen.
666
00:27:09,494 --> 00:27:11,162
We put everything out there of.
667
00:27:11,162 --> 00:27:14,165
See, we want you to do the comparisons.
668
00:27:14,232 --> 00:27:16,434
If you're skeptical or whatever,
669
00:27:16,434 --> 00:27:17,969
go to your technical datasheets
670
00:27:17,969 --> 00:27:19,204
and whatever product you're using
671
00:27:19,204 --> 00:27:20,038
and then compare them to
672
00:27:20,038 --> 00:27:22,974
bona quantum Flow or RG 51.
673
00:27:23,975 --> 00:27:24,476
We want
674
00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:25,577
be able to see the differences
675
00:27:25,577 --> 00:27:27,545
because at that point it's not sales
676
00:27:27,545 --> 00:27:28,913
peak anymore at that point.
677
00:27:28,913 --> 00:27:31,049
Is that marketing jargon?
678
00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:33,585
It's what's this year's strength
679
00:27:33,585 --> 00:27:34,786
and what what is
680
00:27:34,786 --> 00:27:36,087
it tends strength in
681
00:27:36,087 --> 00:27:37,355
this that and the other
682
00:27:37,355 --> 00:27:38,823
I see ratings as
683
00:27:38,823 --> 00:27:40,492
see ratings and what have you.
684
00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:42,460
I've said it before.
685
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:43,662
If I can bench press,
686
00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:45,930
you know, three, 300 pounds,
687
00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:47,866
I'd probably be able to talk about it.
688
00:27:47,866 --> 00:27:51,069
I'm working in it. Yes.
689
00:27:51,503 --> 00:27:52,170
And if I could only
690
00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:53,171
bench press 80 pounds,
691
00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:54,072
I probably wouldn't talk about it
692
00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:55,306
that much.
693
00:27:55,306 --> 00:27:58,810
And look how many times I'll say,
694
00:27:59,044 --> 00:28:00,378
look how many times you see the word.
695
00:28:00,378 --> 00:28:03,381
The initials na shear strength in a,
696
00:28:03,882 --> 00:28:06,418
tensile strength and a
697
00:28:06,418 --> 00:28:07,552
and that listing them,
698
00:28:07,552 --> 00:28:08,653
we put it all out there.
699
00:28:10,488 --> 00:28:12,357
Yeah, yeah.
700
00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:14,092
You know what?
701
00:28:14,092 --> 00:28:17,195
It's, it's a German engineered product.
702
00:28:17,262 --> 00:28:18,063
I've said it before.
703
00:28:18,063 --> 00:28:19,197
I think sometimes when I.
704
00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:19,798
When I look
705
00:28:19,798 --> 00:28:20,665
and do comparisons
706
00:28:20,665 --> 00:28:21,232
that I think we're
707
00:28:21,232 --> 00:28:23,034
almost over engineered.
708
00:28:23,034 --> 00:28:26,171
But, you know, we now have everything
709
00:28:26,171 --> 00:28:27,238
we sell in North America,
710
00:28:27,238 --> 00:28:29,340
we make in North America.
711
00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:30,975
So.
712
00:28:30,975 --> 00:28:33,912
That's, That's another great one, too.
713
00:28:33,912 --> 00:28:35,380
All right, let's move on.
714
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:38,383
So that's, So before you move,
715
00:28:39,084 --> 00:28:42,087
before you move on, let's go back again.
716
00:28:42,153 --> 00:28:44,689
And this is remember the days beforehand
717
00:28:44,689 --> 00:28:46,291
hands flaws okay.
718
00:28:46,291 --> 00:28:48,460
And scrapes weren't even in that right.
719
00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:49,294
And a lot of times
720
00:28:49,294 --> 00:28:50,095
with a square edge
721
00:28:50,095 --> 00:28:52,363
or just a slight Michael Bevel
722
00:28:52,363 --> 00:28:55,366
and you're doing an install from a slab.
723
00:28:56,167 --> 00:28:57,736
You know, Inspector,
724
00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:59,504
we come out with a credit card.
725
00:28:59,504 --> 00:29:01,106
If it was like, one was like
726
00:29:01,106 --> 00:29:02,540
just picked up a little bit,
727
00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:03,274
a little bit higher
728
00:29:03,274 --> 00:29:03,742
and the other
729
00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:05,477
the thickness of a credit card.
730
00:29:05,477 --> 00:29:08,279
Well, the installers, installers at fault
731
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:09,881
and I have seen so many installers
732
00:29:09,881 --> 00:29:11,382
get their hard broke,
733
00:29:11,382 --> 00:29:13,785
trying to have a perfect flat
734
00:29:13,785 --> 00:29:15,353
surface to work on
735
00:29:15,353 --> 00:29:17,322
and the thing is, back in my day
736
00:29:17,322 --> 00:29:18,923
especially, you would have
737
00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:21,559
you have more of a semi-gloss to gloss
738
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:23,094
finish a lot of times.
739
00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:24,929
And anything that's
740
00:29:24,929 --> 00:29:26,931
protruded up a little, slightly,
741
00:29:26,931 --> 00:29:28,433
a bit, you would see it mildly
742
00:29:30,301 --> 00:29:32,270
look like the Rocky Mountains, man.
743
00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:34,072
And then the greatest thing
744
00:29:34,072 --> 00:29:34,672
that ever happened
745
00:29:34,672 --> 00:29:36,407
to the to the installer
746
00:29:36,407 --> 00:29:38,576
in the in the history of grounds
747
00:29:38,576 --> 00:29:40,478
with hands, great flaws
748
00:29:40,478 --> 00:29:43,414
because now you've got wild undulations.
749
00:29:43,414 --> 00:29:45,016
You have, you know what I mean?
750
00:29:45,016 --> 00:29:46,584
It was supposed to your eye,
751
00:29:46,584 --> 00:29:48,153
it was full in your eye.
752
00:29:48,153 --> 00:29:49,954
And
753
00:29:49,954 --> 00:29:52,957
yes, now it was like part of the floor.
754
00:29:53,057 --> 00:29:54,192
And,
755
00:29:54,192 --> 00:29:55,493
obviously you had to get them flat also,
756
00:29:55,493 --> 00:29:56,294
but you didn't have that
757
00:29:56,294 --> 00:29:59,297
just I'm talking about a 16th of an inch
758
00:29:59,497 --> 00:30:01,866
that you would get dinged on sometimes.
759
00:30:01,866 --> 00:30:04,335
But my other point
760
00:30:04,335 --> 00:30:06,571
was back in those days, also,
761
00:30:06,571 --> 00:30:08,173
if you left a
762
00:30:08,173 --> 00:30:09,808
thumbprint on the floor
763
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:11,342
and you didn't see it,
764
00:30:11,342 --> 00:30:14,145
and several days go by, it's a urethane,
765
00:30:14,145 --> 00:30:14,746
and the homeowners
766
00:30:14,746 --> 00:30:15,713
stand back in that light
767
00:30:15,713 --> 00:30:17,682
and they see that smudge mark.
768
00:30:17,682 --> 00:30:19,851
Even if you could remove the smudge work,
769
00:30:19,851 --> 00:30:22,020
a lot of times it's the finish.
770
00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:23,955
The the margin for error
771
00:30:23,955 --> 00:30:26,958
for the installers was almost unfair.
772
00:30:27,192 --> 00:30:27,859
And then,
773
00:30:27,859 --> 00:30:30,595
you know, yeah, this this this this
774
00:30:30,595 --> 00:30:32,063
this joint is protruding out
775
00:30:32,063 --> 00:30:34,866
the 16th of an inch, you scumbag.
776
00:30:34,866 --> 00:30:37,869
You you look at you
777
00:30:38,403 --> 00:30:39,871
look at you look at what?
778
00:30:39,871 --> 00:30:40,972
What did you do?
779
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:44,375
Yeah, look what you did, you know.
780
00:30:44,375 --> 00:30:47,045
Okay, it's 1500 square feet.
781
00:30:47,045 --> 00:30:48,379
You have to touch the trowel.
782
00:30:48,379 --> 00:30:49,514
You have to touch the boards.
783
00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:50,648
You have to tread,
784
00:30:50,648 --> 00:30:53,651
touch the adhesive and everything.
785
00:30:53,651 --> 00:30:56,654
You mean to tell me you left this,
786
00:30:57,188 --> 00:30:59,324
this, this thumbprint on my floor
787
00:30:59,324 --> 00:31:02,327
somewhere? You scumbag?
788
00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:03,661
I that's.
789
00:31:03,661 --> 00:31:04,195
It has to go,
790
00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:06,998
or I can't possibly pay you your $10,000.
791
00:31:06,998 --> 00:31:07,866
You know what I mean?
792
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:09,467
The poor floor guy.
793
00:31:09,467 --> 00:31:09,901
Yeah.
794
00:31:09,901 --> 00:31:11,569
You you you got.
795
00:31:11,569 --> 00:31:14,305
You're up against the world, man.
796
00:31:14,305 --> 00:31:17,141
Of having the pristine.
797
00:31:17,141 --> 00:31:19,510
And the customers don't know.
798
00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:19,878
Don't
799
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:21,479
they don't have any idea
800
00:31:21,479 --> 00:31:23,982
when the floor goes up against.
801
00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:26,384
They come up with a sideline adhesive
802
00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:29,153
and you've got guys leaving fingerprints,
803
00:31:29,153 --> 00:31:30,054
thumbprints on the floor,
804
00:31:30,054 --> 00:31:30,588
or they accidentally
805
00:31:30,588 --> 00:31:31,289
stepped in a little bit.
806
00:31:31,289 --> 00:31:32,724
Whatever to be able to say,
807
00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:34,726
you know what, leave it.
808
00:31:34,726 --> 00:31:35,093
Come back
809
00:31:35,093 --> 00:31:36,761
tomorrow, take a microfiber
810
00:31:36,761 --> 00:31:38,763
mop to it and take it off real easy.
811
00:31:38,763 --> 00:31:40,398
Or just, you know, take a scraper
812
00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:43,401
and scrape it right off and and,
813
00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:44,836
no issues in that.
814
00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:47,805
Having an edge to finish that.
815
00:31:48,006 --> 00:31:50,208
Talk about a game changer, man.
816
00:31:50,208 --> 00:31:53,144
That that that she I'm I am so
817
00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:55,146
old fashioned. It's crazy.
818
00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:58,216
I hate vanilla ice cream.
819
00:31:58,216 --> 00:31:59,250
I go to 31 flavors.
820
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:00,051
What flavor you want one.
821
00:32:00,051 --> 00:32:01,286
Vanilla
822
00:32:01,286 --> 00:32:02,420
potato chips
823
00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:04,422
I want I don't want barbecue potato.
824
00:32:04,422 --> 00:32:05,456
Potato chips.
825
00:32:05,456 --> 00:32:06,791
All the different soft drinks out there.
826
00:32:06,791 --> 00:32:08,226
No, I drink coke.
827
00:32:08,226 --> 00:32:08,826
What?
828
00:32:08,826 --> 00:32:09,394
I don't even more.
829
00:32:09,394 --> 00:32:11,429
So much. But, you know, getting old.
830
00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:15,300
So when it came to to force,
831
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,535
as a urethane guy,
832
00:32:17,535 --> 00:32:19,170
I was a polyurethane guy.
833
00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:20,571
And this is how we did it,
834
00:32:20,571 --> 00:32:22,006
and we hand sanded
835
00:32:22,006 --> 00:32:23,942
because that's how we know it worked.
836
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:26,311
And you don't change things. You just.
837
00:32:26,311 --> 00:32:27,178
That's the way you stick
838
00:32:27,178 --> 00:32:30,181
to what works by the block.
839
00:32:30,481 --> 00:32:32,350
So I'm one of the last guy
840
00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:33,885
that wants to change.
841
00:32:33,885 --> 00:32:35,386
I'm scared to death of,
842
00:32:35,386 --> 00:32:37,255
someone messing with my system.
843
00:32:37,255 --> 00:32:38,489
I have to get paid,
844
00:32:38,489 --> 00:32:40,591
and I know what I'm doing. Works. Yeah.
845
00:32:40,591 --> 00:32:41,859
Is it harder? Yes, blah blah blah.
846
00:32:41,859 --> 00:32:44,395
But I know that it works.
847
00:32:44,395 --> 00:32:47,765
So me leaving a year and saying it easier
848
00:32:47,832 --> 00:32:48,266
to go
849
00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:51,302
to, to a sailing to huge deal for me.
850
00:32:52,036 --> 00:32:53,004
And now I look back, go,
851
00:32:53,004 --> 00:32:54,205
how would we ever go?
852
00:32:54,205 --> 00:32:55,940
I can never go back again.
853
00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:56,774
Me going, me
854
00:32:56,774 --> 00:32:57,542
going from an oil
855
00:32:57,542 --> 00:32:58,643
based polyurethane
856
00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:01,245
that I got paid on all these jobs.
857
00:33:01,245 --> 00:33:03,648
And then moving away to a water base
858
00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:05,316
that now we're putting it,
859
00:33:05,316 --> 00:33:06,150
you know,
860
00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:07,151
with a, with a seat
861
00:33:07,151 --> 00:33:09,087
with a T-bar and a roller.
862
00:33:09,087 --> 00:33:10,455
We use Lambswool and everything,
863
00:33:10,455 --> 00:33:12,123
but it worked for me,
864
00:33:12,123 --> 00:33:14,058
getting away from those things.
865
00:33:14,058 --> 00:33:15,393
But but look at the
866
00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:16,694
on the other side of it,
867
00:33:16,694 --> 00:33:18,629
where I put two coats on in the day
868
00:33:18,629 --> 00:33:19,964
and I don't have to pay the gas
869
00:33:19,964 --> 00:33:21,332
and I get to get another job in.
870
00:33:21,332 --> 00:33:21,833
And is that
871
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:22,967
is that the other
872
00:33:22,967 --> 00:33:24,502
the industry
873
00:33:24,502 --> 00:33:24,836
and I
874
00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:26,270
we said it on the last show, guys
875
00:33:26,270 --> 00:33:28,606
who did floors in the 70s and 80s
876
00:33:28,606 --> 00:33:31,009
and came up through that period of time,
877
00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:32,744
I think, seen the most dramatic changes
878
00:33:32,744 --> 00:33:33,945
in the flooring industry,
879
00:33:33,945 --> 00:33:34,879
probably in the history
880
00:33:34,879 --> 00:33:36,080
of flooring industry.
881
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,282
Nothing certainly happens from the
882
00:33:38,282 --> 00:33:40,785
from the 20s and 30s and 40s and 50s
883
00:33:40,785 --> 00:33:41,986
and 60s. You know,
884
00:33:43,454 --> 00:33:46,424
it was all the same.
885
00:33:46,758 --> 00:33:47,992
Yeah.
886
00:33:47,992 --> 00:33:50,995
887
00:33:53,231 --> 00:33:56,234
Yeah.
888
00:33:56,234 --> 00:33:59,237
Yep, yep.
889
00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:02,940
Yeah,
890
00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:05,943
yeah.
891
00:34:10,348 --> 00:34:13,351
No.
892
00:34:23,995 --> 00:34:26,030
Yeah.
893
00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:29,033
Yeah.
894
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,603
Yeah yeah.
895
00:34:33,037 --> 00:34:35,473
Yeah.
896
00:34:35,473 --> 00:34:38,476
897
00:34:39,544 --> 00:34:42,146
Yeah.
898
00:34:42,146 --> 00:34:43,114
Yeah.
899
00:34:43,114 --> 00:34:44,749
So
900
00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:45,216
last year
901
00:34:45,216 --> 00:34:47,185
I was earlier this year I went to,
902
00:34:47,185 --> 00:34:48,586
I was in Sweden,
903
00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:49,821
at our, at our,
904
00:34:49,821 --> 00:34:51,022
our home, you know,
905
00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:53,558
our formal headquarters, I guess.
906
00:34:53,558 --> 00:34:54,859
And I was in one of our labs
907
00:34:54,859 --> 00:34:55,760
where they do all this stuff,
908
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,563
and there's 15 people in there
909
00:34:58,563 --> 00:35:00,031
that be scientists
910
00:35:00,031 --> 00:35:01,399
and chemists and everything
911
00:35:01,399 --> 00:35:02,967
working on products
912
00:35:02,967 --> 00:35:04,302
to to make products better
913
00:35:04,302 --> 00:35:06,304
and to improve products and all that.
914
00:35:06,304 --> 00:35:08,039
Then I think about all the schools
915
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:09,674
we do across the country,
916
00:35:09,674 --> 00:35:10,374
all the training
917
00:35:10,374 --> 00:35:12,276
that we do across the country.
918
00:35:12,276 --> 00:35:15,680
It's a very responsible thing
919
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,582
for, a manufacturer to do.
920
00:35:17,582 --> 00:35:20,251
It's tremendously expensive
921
00:35:20,251 --> 00:35:22,820
for a manufacturer to do, but,
922
00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:24,288
you know, take taking,
923
00:35:24,288 --> 00:35:24,689
you know,
924
00:35:24,689 --> 00:35:25,423
and like you said
925
00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:27,225
when you said in that first show,
926
00:35:27,225 --> 00:35:28,092
when we did the show
927
00:35:28,092 --> 00:35:31,095
last week on this about,
928
00:35:31,195 --> 00:35:32,597
we listened to the contractor,
929
00:35:33,564 --> 00:35:34,665
you know,
930
00:35:34,665 --> 00:35:35,600
and that's where it
931
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,335
really starts with us.
932
00:35:37,335 --> 00:35:38,836
When the employer goes to R&D,
933
00:35:38,836 --> 00:35:40,304
you know, we
934
00:35:40,304 --> 00:35:42,707
you, the guys give their feedback
935
00:35:42,707 --> 00:35:44,075
about what guys are looking for
936
00:35:44,075 --> 00:35:45,343
or what guys want. Whatever.
937
00:35:45,343 --> 00:35:47,378
We bring it to the R&D,
938
00:35:47,378 --> 00:35:48,579
you know, goes to the chemist,
939
00:35:48,579 --> 00:35:49,580
the scientist or whatever,
940
00:35:49,580 --> 00:35:51,349
and what they can do with the products
941
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:54,886
and introducing like, power
942
00:35:54,886 --> 00:35:56,220
drives and different products
943
00:35:56,220 --> 00:35:57,889
and, and improving the sandpaper
944
00:35:57,889 --> 00:35:58,990
and everything.
945
00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:01,692
It's not a stagnant company,
946
00:36:01,692 --> 00:36:02,460
you know what I mean?
947
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:05,530
It's always trying to find the next step
948
00:36:05,730 --> 00:36:07,064
that's going to make it easier
949
00:36:07,064 --> 00:36:08,900
for the contractor.
950
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:09,867
to everything
951
00:36:09,867 --> 00:36:12,069
that people are talking to them about.
952
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:14,205
Yeah. So.
953
00:36:14,205 --> 00:36:14,572
If you.
954
00:36:14,572 --> 00:36:16,974
And why wouldn't you?
955
00:36:16,974 --> 00:36:19,277
That's going to be your best R&D.
956
00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:20,545
That's going to be your best product
957
00:36:20,545 --> 00:36:21,312
management people
958
00:36:21,312 --> 00:36:23,114
or people on the field telling you,
959
00:36:23,114 --> 00:36:25,683
hey, maybe you should improve Yeah.
960
00:36:34,592 --> 00:36:37,595
Yeah.
961
00:36:51,909 --> 00:36:54,912
You know.
962
00:36:58,816 --> 00:37:01,786
Yeah.
963
00:37:04,755 --> 00:37:07,725
When.
964
00:37:17,802 --> 00:37:20,805
I really am by my ear,
965
00:37:20,838 --> 00:37:23,841
but.
966
00:37:43,995 --> 00:37:46,964
Yeah.
967
00:37:46,964 --> 00:37:49,967
Yeah.
968
00:37:50,001 --> 00:37:53,004
Yeah, but he knows.
969
00:37:58,242 --> 00:37:58,576
Well.
970
00:37:58,576 --> 00:38:01,545
971
00:38:06,484 --> 00:38:07,351
Yeah.
972
00:38:07,351 --> 00:38:09,253
Yeah.
973
00:38:09,253 --> 00:38:12,256
Yeah.
974
00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:16,594
Yeah.
975
00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:17,728
I was running with the power drive
976
00:38:17,728 --> 00:38:19,196
first, came out, and I see guys,
977
00:38:19,196 --> 00:38:20,197
like, stacking
978
00:38:20,197 --> 00:38:21,399
bricks on it, on it
979
00:38:21,399 --> 00:38:24,402
and stacking all kinds of different
980
00:38:24,435 --> 00:38:26,737
mechanism systems to.
981
00:38:26,737 --> 00:38:29,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
982
00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:32,176
Absolutely.
983
00:38:32,176 --> 00:38:32,677
All right.
984
00:38:32,677 --> 00:38:34,445
And the last one,
985
00:38:34,445 --> 00:38:37,415
the new bona Rico system.
986
00:38:38,049 --> 00:38:41,052
And it's not so much that
987
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:42,486
it changed,
988
00:38:42,486 --> 00:38:44,422
but we just made improvements.
989
00:38:44,422 --> 00:38:46,057
We just cut the products back
990
00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:46,624
like you used
991
00:38:46,624 --> 00:38:49,627
to have to buy the bone or remove
992
00:38:50,394 --> 00:38:50,761
the bone.
993
00:38:50,761 --> 00:38:52,797
A polish remover off
994
00:38:52,797 --> 00:38:55,800
the bone, a deep clean and the bone
995
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:05,943
Yeah.
996
00:39:06,043 --> 00:39:07,311
and you're going to be able to do
997
00:39:07,311 --> 00:39:08,779
the same exact process
998
00:39:08,779 --> 00:39:10,314
that we did before.
999
00:39:10,314 --> 00:39:11,282
But we only got to
1000
00:39:11,282 --> 00:39:13,484
utilize two products now
1001
00:39:13,484 --> 00:39:15,686
rather than going with polish remover
1002
00:39:15,686 --> 00:39:17,054
and all that stuff.
1003
00:39:17,054 --> 00:39:19,056
This will do that
1004
00:39:19,056 --> 00:39:20,324
and it will do the recoil.
1005
00:39:20,324 --> 00:39:21,459
It will remove polish
1006
00:39:21,459 --> 00:39:23,661
and it will do the recode Yeah.
1007
00:39:30,901 --> 00:39:32,837
Yeah.
1008
00:39:32,837 --> 00:39:35,840
1009
00:39:37,475 --> 00:39:39,377
Yeah.
1010
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:42,580
And and I, you know,
1011
00:39:44,348 --> 00:39:45,282
I don't
1012
00:39:45,282 --> 00:39:46,050
you don't want to sound
1013
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:46,884
like you're boasting
1014
00:39:46,884 --> 00:39:48,252
with all these different things.
1015
00:39:48,252 --> 00:39:49,387
I think it's just more
1016
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:50,154
more than anything,
1017
00:39:50,154 --> 00:39:51,122
just making people
1018
00:39:51,122 --> 00:39:54,125
aware of kind of the last.
1019
00:39:55,025 --> 00:39:56,260
Like our report card
1020
00:39:56,260 --> 00:39:57,728
over the last ten years
1021
00:39:57,728 --> 00:39:58,996
of what we've done.
1022
00:39:58,996 --> 00:39:59,463
And,
1023
00:39:59,463 --> 00:39:59,897
you know,
1024
00:39:59,897 --> 00:40:00,398
you know, the
1025
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,166
the improvements in the technology
1026
00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:03,434
has come down the pike.
1027
00:40:03,434 --> 00:40:05,302
And I know that it's still coming.
1028
00:40:05,302 --> 00:40:06,804
Like I said, I know with the adhesive
1029
00:40:06,804 --> 00:40:07,772
some stuff that's coming
1030
00:40:07,772 --> 00:40:09,206
down, that's pretty cool.
1031
00:40:09,206 --> 00:40:11,509
So
1032
00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:13,310
I know, you know, that hurts me.
1033
00:40:13,310 --> 00:40:16,147
It's it's it it's coming up.
1034
00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:19,517
So, Yeah.
1035
00:40:19,517 --> 00:40:22,086
And then I think of, the
1036
00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:25,089
we have a manufacturer like this, which,
1037
00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:25,856
you know, but
1038
00:40:25,856 --> 00:40:27,625
is still a family owned company.
1039
00:40:27,625 --> 00:40:29,326
You know, it's still
1040
00:40:29,326 --> 00:40:29,894
they know
1041
00:40:29,894 --> 00:40:31,095
we're we're on five different
1042
00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:32,563
continents, 90 different countries,
1043
00:40:32,563 --> 00:40:35,232
I think, but still family owned company
1044
00:40:35,232 --> 00:40:38,369
to have the parts for these products
1045
00:40:39,069 --> 00:40:40,371
just to supply the parts.
1046
00:40:40,371 --> 00:40:41,005
And then, you know,
1047
00:40:41,005 --> 00:40:41,272
then the
1048
00:40:41,272 --> 00:40:42,940
when we discontinue something,
1049
00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:44,241
we still keep the parts out there
1050
00:40:44,241 --> 00:40:46,277
for like ten years afterwards
1051
00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:48,546
is a it's a pretty heavy commitment,
1052
00:40:48,546 --> 00:40:49,680
to do that.
1053
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,916
But if you want to give the contractor
1054
00:40:51,916 --> 00:40:53,417
a system,
1055
00:40:53,417 --> 00:40:54,185
products,
1056
00:40:54,185 --> 00:40:55,486
they can work with improvement
1057
00:40:55,486 --> 00:40:56,687
and everything.
1058
00:40:56,687 --> 00:40:57,254
Like I said, it's
1059
00:40:57,254 --> 00:40:59,123
a big commitment tomorrow when I'm
1060
00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:00,357
when I'm gone, ten years
1061
00:41:00,357 --> 00:41:01,992
after I'm gone out of this industry.
1062
00:41:03,794 --> 00:41:04,762
People will ask
1063
00:41:04,762 --> 00:41:05,830
me about Bono or whatever.
1064
00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:07,965
I'll tell them the same thing. Man.
1065
00:41:07,965 --> 00:41:09,400
I think it's amazing.
1066
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,602
Amazing company, I really do.
1067
00:41:11,602 --> 00:41:14,238
I just look for me to come here.
1068
00:41:14,238 --> 00:41:15,072
You know my story.
1069
00:41:15,072 --> 00:41:16,941
I took a big time pay cut.
1070
00:41:16,941 --> 00:41:19,176
I know you thought you were the most,
1071
00:41:19,176 --> 00:41:20,010
highest paid,
1072
00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:22,112
guy at the last company we work at.
1073
00:41:22,112 --> 00:41:25,115
At.
1074
00:41:25,216 --> 00:41:28,118
But because I believed in the product
1075
00:41:28,118 --> 00:41:29,320
so much
1076
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,756
that I, I really, to me,
1077
00:41:32,756 --> 00:41:33,524
it was at all costs.
1078
00:41:33,524 --> 00:41:34,925
I wanted to get here.
1079
00:41:34,925 --> 00:41:38,429
And, I just think that
1080
00:41:40,030 --> 00:41:41,866
they've done a hell of a job.
1081
00:41:41,866 --> 00:41:44,168
And then you look at your training, too.
1082
00:41:44,168 --> 00:41:44,802
With you,
1083
00:41:44,802 --> 00:41:46,237
with your experience,
1084
00:41:46,237 --> 00:41:48,906
we've added, Michael Dittmer.
1085
00:41:48,906 --> 00:41:50,508
Some of the other guys
1086
00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:51,909
come down the pike.
1087
00:41:51,909 --> 00:41:52,443
Certainly.
1088
00:41:52,443 --> 00:41:53,744
D has been,
1089
00:41:53,744 --> 00:41:54,578
you know, he's
1090
00:41:54,578 --> 00:41:56,447
just done a phenomenal job with this,
1091
00:41:56,447 --> 00:41:58,716
with the training program at Boeing. It.
1092
00:41:58,716 --> 00:42:00,584
even think about the changes
1093
00:42:00,584 --> 00:42:02,520
we made in training.
1094
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,989
And, a lot of the changes we made
1095
00:42:04,989 --> 00:42:06,290
in training came from Covid.
1096
00:42:07,725 --> 00:42:09,059
Is that right?
1097
00:42:09,059 --> 00:42:11,595
Covid, we were,
1098
00:42:11,595 --> 00:42:13,364
you know,
1099
00:42:13,364 --> 00:42:16,367
we had to cut the classes down like,
1100
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:17,034
there were times
1101
00:42:17,034 --> 00:42:17,568
where we had
1102
00:42:17,568 --> 00:42:20,571
40 people at the Jersey class.
1103
00:42:21,405 --> 00:42:22,206
And, you know,
1104
00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:23,908
we had to cut that Jersey class down to
1105
00:42:23,908 --> 00:42:26,443
I think I think the max was nine
1106
00:42:26,443 --> 00:42:28,646
or something for all to have one member,
1107
00:42:28,646 --> 00:42:31,715
all the rules about you know, six foot.
1108
00:42:31,715 --> 00:42:34,885
And I remember measuring seats and,
1109
00:42:35,419 --> 00:42:38,022
just, you know, that whole thing.
1110
00:42:38,022 --> 00:42:40,257
But when it was all over,
1111
00:42:40,257 --> 00:42:41,892
I remember having a meeting,
1112
00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:44,528
with Dee saying,
1113
00:42:44,528 --> 00:42:47,531
as crazy as it sounds,
1114
00:42:48,065 --> 00:42:49,066
I think we did better
1115
00:42:49,066 --> 00:42:50,467
with the smaller classes.
1116
00:42:50,467 --> 00:42:53,470
I think people got more
1117
00:42:53,604 --> 00:42:55,039
out of the smaller classes,
1118
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:56,907
and I think that's one of the big changes
1119
00:42:56,907 --> 00:42:59,243
we've made at training is,
1120
00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:00,711
you know, we used to do,
1121
00:43:00,711 --> 00:43:02,680
let's say, ten big schools.
1122
00:43:04,682 --> 00:43:07,685
You know, now, you
1123
00:43:09,987 --> 00:43:12,990
Wow.
1124
00:43:28,706 --> 00:43:31,709
Yeah.
1125
00:43:34,011 --> 00:43:37,014
Yeah.
1126
00:43:42,653 --> 00:43:45,656
Yeah.
1127
00:43:45,823 --> 00:43:48,826
1128
00:43:52,196 --> 00:43:55,199
Yeah.
1129
00:43:56,066 --> 00:43:59,069
Yeah.
1130
00:44:11,115 --> 00:44:14,018
Yeah.
1131
00:44:14,018 --> 00:44:16,420
Rather than,
1132
00:44:16,420 --> 00:44:17,855
oh my God, there's 40 people
1133
00:44:17,855 --> 00:44:19,289
and there's four machines.
1134
00:44:19,289 --> 00:44:21,058
You know, and I mean, I'm,
1135
00:44:21,058 --> 00:44:23,861
I'm never going to get a.
1136
00:44:23,861 --> 00:44:25,229
You know, it cracks me up.
1137
00:44:25,229 --> 00:44:26,530
But I'll just be my last story.
1138
00:44:26,530 --> 00:44:28,599
We'll wrap this up.
1139
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:29,833
When I was a territory manager
1140
00:44:29,833 --> 00:44:31,201
and I was in Nashville,
1141
00:44:31,201 --> 00:44:32,903
we didn't really have an RTC there.
1142
00:44:32,903 --> 00:44:34,238
Regional training center.
1143
00:44:34,238 --> 00:44:36,340
I had a kind of, like, a makeshift one.
1144
00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:38,876
One of our customers let me use.
1145
00:44:38,876 --> 00:44:40,644
And I want I want to do a school, man.
1146
00:44:40,644 --> 00:44:41,912
I want to do something kind of cool.
1147
00:44:41,912 --> 00:44:42,513
School and everything.
1148
00:44:42,513 --> 00:44:44,114
He said, okay, cool.
1149
00:44:44,114 --> 00:44:45,616
And so,
1150
00:44:45,616 --> 00:44:46,850
I was building the panels
1151
00:44:46,850 --> 00:44:47,818
and my concern was,
1152
00:44:47,818 --> 00:44:49,653
all right, let's do some cool panels.
1153
00:44:49,653 --> 00:44:51,955
That's where my head was at.
1154
00:44:51,955 --> 00:44:54,324
And then Martin Ceballos, who is now,
1155
00:44:55,459 --> 00:44:56,760
regional director of the
1156
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,495
and, in the East Coast,
1157
00:44:58,495 --> 00:44:59,997
came down there to help me with the class
1158
00:44:59,997 --> 00:45:01,432
the day of the glider or the day,
1159
00:45:01,432 --> 00:45:02,700
the day before the class.
1160
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:03,434
He was going to help me in
1161
00:45:03,434 --> 00:45:05,035
whatever supply.
1162
00:45:05,035 --> 00:45:05,669
So he comes
1163
00:45:05,669 --> 00:45:06,303
in, I pick him up
1164
00:45:06,303 --> 00:45:07,137
the airport, he comes in,
1165
00:45:07,137 --> 00:45:09,440
he looks at the place.
1166
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,974
First time I'm seeing it through the eyes
1167
00:45:10,974 --> 00:45:12,776
of another Boeing employee.
1168
00:45:12,776 --> 00:45:13,844
You know what I mean?
1169
00:45:13,844 --> 00:45:16,680
He looks around, he goes,
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00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,615
the Geiger Home Depot.
1171
00:45:18,615 --> 00:45:19,650
I said, well,
1172
00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:20,684
I think I got everything,
1173
00:45:20,684 --> 00:45:22,920
you know, let's go Home Depot.
1174
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,489
And he's picking up toilet cleaner,
1175
00:45:25,489 --> 00:45:29,193
nine, nine different cleaners.
1176
00:45:30,027 --> 00:45:31,061
He goes,
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00:45:31,061 --> 00:45:33,197
we gotta scrub this bathroom down.
1178
00:45:33,197 --> 00:45:35,899
We got to scrub the the the the the
1179
00:45:35,899 --> 00:45:38,135
the mirrors, everything that,
1180
00:45:38,135 --> 00:45:39,369
we had to wipe everything down.
1181
00:45:39,369 --> 00:45:40,237
We got to clean this.
1182
00:45:40,237 --> 00:45:41,505
We got to clean that.
1183
00:45:41,505 --> 00:45:43,173
And I felt terrible because, like,
1184
00:45:43,173 --> 00:45:44,975
I didn't bring him here to clean,
1185
00:45:44,975 --> 00:45:46,577
you know what I mean? He's a man.
1186
00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:49,680
But but, you know, my
1187
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,181
I'm just looking at for as a floor
1188
00:45:51,181 --> 00:45:52,616
guy would look at like, hey, man,
1189
00:45:52,616 --> 00:45:53,817
this whatever, we'll deal with that.
1190
00:45:53,817 --> 00:45:55,586
But they and this a panel, let's do it.
1191
00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:56,487
Yeah, we have some cool stuff
1192
00:45:56,487 --> 00:45:58,322
we're going to do here. So anyhow.
1193
00:46:00,057 --> 00:46:02,392
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1194
00:46:02,392 --> 00:46:02,993
So anyhow,
1195
00:46:02,993 --> 00:46:03,694
Rob,
1196
00:46:03,694 --> 00:46:05,195
I think it was a great idea
1197
00:46:05,195 --> 00:46:06,797
you had for the show, and,
1198
00:46:06,797 --> 00:46:09,366
we don't talk about Bono.
1199
00:46:09,366 --> 00:46:11,535
You know. Yes, yes.
1200
00:46:11,535 --> 00:46:15,572
We don't we don't we don't, I feel like
1201
00:46:15,572 --> 00:46:17,074
I don't want to preach to the choir
1202
00:46:17,074 --> 00:46:18,575
when we do the show,
1203
00:46:18,575 --> 00:46:20,444
and that we don't even talk about Bono.
1204
00:46:20,444 --> 00:46:21,779
We just talk about life as a floor
1205
00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:23,147
man and different things.
1206
00:46:23,147 --> 00:46:25,849
But I'm glad you said this, that
1207
00:46:25,849 --> 00:46:26,650
you came up the idea
1208
00:46:26,650 --> 00:46:28,118
with this for the show.
1209
00:46:28,118 --> 00:46:30,487
Because I think it's important, man.
1210
00:46:30,487 --> 00:46:32,356
I think really is important to do.
1211
00:46:32,356 --> 00:46:34,258
And, and, and,
1212
00:46:34,258 --> 00:46:35,325
something we're both passionate
1213
00:46:35,325 --> 00:46:36,960
about and bone is passionate about.
1214
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,495
And I think somebody needs
1215
00:46:38,495 --> 00:46:39,930
to voice that,
1216
00:46:39,930 --> 00:46:42,399
just kind of the way we feel about it.
1217
00:46:42,399 --> 00:46:44,134
So there you go.
1218
00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:46,804
Nice job. Rob. Okay.
1219
00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:47,271
All right.
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00:46:47,271 --> 00:46:48,205
There's been another episode
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00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:50,073
of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
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Please stay tuned for another episode.