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Hello, and welcome to another episode
of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
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I'm Wayne Highlander, director of Sales,
and he says.
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Are we doing Rob?
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We are back in live way.
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We've been out of the game
a little bit because we,
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you know, I won't work
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until I get everything in writing. And.
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Then he.
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Yeah thank you
and I try to get you promotion also
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but it just wasn't enough money there.
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You know how you get it,
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, yes. And you you have every.
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Reason to be proud, though, of
because you are doing good.
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You absolutely doing good.
You are right on track.
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You're on track.
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I'll say that. You are on track.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I rarely
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get to go to schools anymore
and you know that.
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And I was at a school.
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It was a five day school.
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Dave Mars. Like,
you don't know who Dave is.
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I mean, on social media,
you know, he's 124 years
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and what have you and he's does in schools
from time to time and and. We.
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Bonos sponsored the adhesive on the
for the school and the abrasive
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so I got to go down there
for a couple days and I rarely do that
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and I've said this before but
I'm going to just repeat it real quick.
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I was on.
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A plane years ago
now sitting next to an old guy.
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He sat next to me.
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I should have put my headphones
on a little quicker than I did
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because he engaged me in conversation
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and he had a really loud, booming voice.
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And I was self-conscious
because you can hear him
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like, I'm sure five rows in either
direction around us.
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Okay.
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And what he is pontificating on
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is this younger generation.
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You know, they don't work hard
and they don't know.
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And then when we are at my age, whatever,
and then as I was sitting there
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listening to him, I thought, my God,
I never want to be this guy.
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This is the list is a life lesson for me.
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So that's what I get out of this
situation, is that,
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you know, as you get older,
you think you've been around you, you,
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you, you have the right to say something
or you feel like I've earned
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my stripes and I can
I can have an opinion on certain things.
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And and I thought this is this was.
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A lesson for me
because I don't ever want to be that guy
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as I get even older than I am.
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So I say that to say this.
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I was at that school
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and by the way, to the buffet at the same
time was having a school been taught?
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Lenny How? Mike?
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Mike the
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mike DETMER I was trying to, as I know.
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Mike Davis
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I was thinking some thing
and passed him to somebody else.
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But there may be other instructors there,
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but I don't remember
there's any other instructors.
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But so at the same,
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Mike knows I love him.
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So at the same time,
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you know, thousands of miles away,
there was another school going on.
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And you think about that for a minute.
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When you go to a school,
when you when you commit
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to go to a school,
you're a you turn it down, work.
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Right?
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You're putting money out of your pocket.
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You are away from your family
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and you could be on vacation.
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God knows these guys work hard
in this industry and.
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A. Week of fishing.
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A week we land the laying around
doing something for themselves.
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Sounds pretty damn enticing,
but they weren't doing that.
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They were working.
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12 to 16 hours a day.
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Working on their craft.
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Learning new new skills,
learning new new disciplines,
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and getting a chance
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to do something that they may not be able
to do on a jobsite.
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And I think that's pretty heroic.
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I think that's pretty awesome
that guys do that. And.
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You know,
talk about different generations.
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When is the work best work being done
and, you know, blah, blah, blah.
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And I.
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Started thinking
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about my own contemporaries when the guys
when I was doing floors back in the.
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Eighties.
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If I think about, let's say ten, ten
of the contractors in my area that I knew
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and I think myself would they first
they were were they doing this level.
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Of of of craftsmanship, number one.
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And number two,
would they go to these schools?
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And by.
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And large,
I don't know how many of them. Would.
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So you put. On top of that
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that passion and that commitment
and that drive.
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And then you also look at the tools
that are available today.
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The sanding tools are better.
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The the vacuums are better.
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I'd argue that the finishes in
the adhesives are better,
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and the technology certainly is out there
more.
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I think this group of floor guys
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coming up, especially when you see
guys like this, I mean it's really good.
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Good to see. That.
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You know
when you have guys in the industry
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and there's too many to mention
there's I say young guys too.
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But at the Mercy School,
there's a lot of older guys there, too.
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A lot of mentors, a lot of.
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A. Lot of just phenomenal floor guys.
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And that's the other thing too, guys.
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When guys been in around the trade. For.
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For as many years
as some of these guys have been around
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and are still willing.
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To. Take the time out and go do. That.
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I think.
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It just says speaks volumes
about the kind of guys
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that are in this industry
and the. Character of.
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The guys and how hard they work
and how dedicated they are to their.
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Craft.
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I hope that they can get this across
to their customers.
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Naysayers also will say.
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That, well.
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You can't make any money
making a medallion
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and you know, there's no money
in doing those type of laws.
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So, I mean.
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Here's my thoughts about that.
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So what
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you know.
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You're you know, there's there's
there's a lot of reasons that you do.
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Flaws
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and maybe, you know, maybe.
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You'll never do a flaw
like this in your life.
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And maybe. You will.
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You know what I mean?
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But you working with your your hands
and you're working with wood
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and you work and creating beautiful
and you're just sanding,
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finishing on floor, just installing
a floor straight laid floor.
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Perfectly done is to me is is beautiful.
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You know what I mean?
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And so if you want
to do something for yourself.
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I think you ought to yourself.
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Why not? It maybe you will never do
another one of these floors.
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You know what I mean?
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But maybe you learn something and it keeps
you interested in your career and.
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And you're excited
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about what you're doing and
and so I don't I don't have that approach.
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And I don't think like that.
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I mean.
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Yeah, if it's a business decision
that I'm going to make.
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Medallions.
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I told you the story about my my,
my father in law when he saw me
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making a medallion in my in my garage
years and years ago when it first started.
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And, you know.
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At the end of the first day,
he seen that I had.
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About.
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About a square foot of work done.
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In the second day he came back and
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and maybe I had
maybe I had two square feet of work done.
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And he's walking around, he's
looking at it, smoking a cigaret
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and nervous,
you know, looking at it and everything.
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I just married his daughter.
And I have. To support her.
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And then the third day he came back
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and I maybe I had like,
you know, 30 inches of work done
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and he threw a cigaret out and goes,
Look, look, look, you ain't no artist.
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You get your ass out there and sand and
floors, you're not making any money here.
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So I get that aspect of it.
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I totally understand.
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That part of it.
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But I still say, you know, you give a lot.
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Of yourself to this business, you know,
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I mean,
you gave you a lot to your customers
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and you give a lot to your business
and you give a lot to your employees
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and that type of people you work with
and your family and everything. Too.
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I think one week for yourself
to do something and to be around
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other Fluor guys like mine and Fluor
guys that that love what they do.
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And to be able to learn from some of
these guys that are so willing to teach
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hats off to Dave Ma's leg and Lenny Hall
and Michael Dittmer and Lenny
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and Ben Tata and all these other guys
that are out there.
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We all know that Randy Harris
is another stud Bill pal.
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These guys that are willing
to give up the information that they have
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and share it with. Others I.
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Think is fantastic.
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So I can only be there for two, two days.
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But it was
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really good for me to be there
and it's really cool to see it.
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It threw me out after a couple of days.
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Yeah, I was eating too much food.
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I require more food than most people do,
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and so I think that was the cause.
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But the no, no.
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I had to be
on the other side of the world.
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I had to be on show the country.
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And I had a matter of fact,
I'll tell you this.
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I never went to bed that night.
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I worked all day in Florida.
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It must have been a Wednesday night
or Tuesday night.
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And then I drove all through the night
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to the airport and
and flew out without going to bed.
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So it was a long, long few days.
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But I was so impressed with the guys, man,
and the just the camaraderie.
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And that's a big part of it,
man, is the camaraderie.
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And so guys are so tired
at the end of the day,
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but they're hanging out with each other.
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And, you know, thanks to social media,
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social media is what made these guys lives
better.
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And it's made it harder.
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And we've talked about that where.
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You know, and
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it. Gets me excited to see on
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social media these stories that people
are doing across the country
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all kinds of different intricate floors
and what have you, your fancy floors.
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And that's good.
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And we share there's been more sharing
than ever before on how to do stuff.
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The old mentality was a you know, no
one showed me I'm not going to show you.
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And. Learn it by yourself.
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But on the other hand, you know, you're
working with clients that,
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you know, you show up on Monday, they go
they go on the Internet Monday night.
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And by Tuesday morning,
they're they're they're experts.
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So that
that has made their life difficult.
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And also they can leave
you know, you your late for an estimate
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or you turn down the job
because you're too busy
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and they can leave you a one star review.
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You know, how do you fake that?
You know what I mean?
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So the way that's made their life harder,
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it's also harder to find employees
that's made life more difficult for them.
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But these guys power through it, man.
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And and I just think it's very cool
to see and hats off to them.
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And it was a great experience.
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you see some of
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those pictures,
I follow Bill Powell on Instagram
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and man, he has been posting like crazy
just from that school.
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You could see how crazy excited
everybody is.
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And that's the funny part about Mars.
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Like,
his stuff is more like art than it is.
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Is. Yeah,
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that's true.
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I was waiting for you to say something.
Anything.
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So I had to keep rolling.
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Thanks.
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I know it was my.
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It might be a record for me.
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Yeah,
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well, it was fun.
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You see how excited I was for.
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For being there.
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And. You know.
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Look at all
the things that were done to me.
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And I'll tell you something, too.
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It tells you how hard it is This girl saw.
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guys were doing an incredibly credible,
very intricate
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installs on the on the front room
and the other rooms in the.
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House.
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Making a lot of progress.
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And the guys on this.
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GROSS are, again, you know.
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Into day one, you got,
you know, hardly anything done.
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And by comparison.
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But to see the picture come to life
every day,
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see a little bit more, come to life,
a little bit more, come to life,
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and then it starts to make sense.
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And and I think we had like five or six
grocers going one time,
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and you had all kinds of planters
and everything.
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So everybody, you know,
we're bending wood.
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There's, there's a adding a
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lights in the floors,
you know, which is pretty cool.
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Finished. It glows in the dark.
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It just, I mean you name it,
the rooms pattern, which happens to be
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my favorite patterned floor
and just really incredible stuff. But
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so for guys
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that don't get a chance to do this
all the time,
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all the material, having all the materials
there and all the guys there and,
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and to share different techniques
and stuff, I thought was really cool, man.
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It was a great, great experience.
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So, so yeah.
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had that school, right? Yep.
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Yeah.
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And I was in the before school
in Saint Louis and.
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Yeah. Yep.
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There you go.
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Yeah,
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Yep, yep.
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Yeah.
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That we know of.
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Yeah, yeah.
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How many schools have you done
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so far this year?
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How many?
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Wow, that's incredible.
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Wow, That is unreal.
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Yeah.
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You know what?
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I love that you do that.
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And what's the price of admission?
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Yeah, that's awesome.
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Yeah,
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Yeah.
300
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No, I said don't spacing out
a little bit.
301
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Yeah, Yeah.
302
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I did my 11 minutes.
303
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
304
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No, Yeah,
305
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yeah.
306
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You know,
I don't do a lot around the holidays,
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you know, giving and stuff like that,
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but, but, but I would do that.
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I would do that at Toys for Tots thing.
I think that was really cool.
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And two great locations, Nashville,
come on around
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Christmas time.
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Yeah.
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Not only that.
314
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Here's another reason good reason
why is why it'd be good to go to that one.
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You know. Nashville is insane right. Now.
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Nashville is is on a third
and a Friday or Saturday night.
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And I'm no party pooper. You know. I.
318
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Love to go out and have a good time.
319
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I do.
320
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But Nashville is just almost
just getting too much.
321
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It's just really too much.
322
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But in December, it'll be it'll be like
the crowds will be less.
323
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So Friday's there and that is so good.
324
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All the bars downtown,
the fans are having a good time.
325
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You bring bring your bride even though
it's December using us too cold.
326
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Nashville is a great hang
no matter what time it is man.
327
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And you doing something good at toys
for Tots and everything.
328
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And so I will
I will be there, no question.
329
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I'll be. There.
330
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So God willing.
331
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Yeah. So good stuff, Rob.
332
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But back to what you were saying.
333
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what?
334
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Let's just take that Toronto school.
335
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I had guys who have been doing for kids,
336
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you know, in the business for two years
and a few guys
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that were there for 30 years, which
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really is the makeup of our classes. I
339
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Yeah,
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yeah, yeah.
341
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You know.
342
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Yeah.
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And. And
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yeah, yeah.
345
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You know, I agree with that.
346
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And whenever you see an older, older guy
347
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show up at the class,
you want to shake his hand.
348
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I'm always so impressed.
349
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I've said it so many times
and I was so impressed with a guy
350
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that's been in the trade for 15,
20, 30 years and still willing to go.
351
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To a class that. Says so much about them.
352
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And I just think that's so cool
that they're not, Hey, I know everything.
353
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You can't teach me anything.
You know, you're.
354
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Even if they are you, we.
355
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All know
sometimes it starts out like that.
356
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But by the end, we've said so many times
on this show, they're like, Well, shoot,
357
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I didn't know you could do that,
or I learn this or take no to that
358
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or what have you.
359
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So but I think
I think education is never a bad thing.
360
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And I'll say it again for anybody
who says, Yeah, you went the end of it,
361
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they did all these fancy floors,
but are you really going to do that?
362
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Actually, it's almost side to me.
363
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It's almost like a save point.
364
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It's like. Yeah, I get it.
365
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I live that life you did too,
and you don't get a lot of calls
366
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for those type of floors.
367
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But you know what.
368
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Some people do
because they made a niche for themselves.
369
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I know people make a living
just doing those type of floors.
370
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Was it around to the guy?
371
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Cameras name or his first thing when
the floor in the last couple of times.
372
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You guy's incredible. Kills me.
I don't remember his name.
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I want to say errata.
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To get that right, but yeah.
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But, but even if that even if it's good
for you because it's something that that
376
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that keeps you interested in the trade
and gets you excited about it
377
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and passion about it.
378
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And you're doing some of those cool floors
too, I think for that it's worthwhile.
379
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So I get. It.
380
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I totally get it when people say,
you know, well, there's no money in it.
381
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I get all sides of it.
382
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And I will say it's very much worth going.
383
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you know,
384
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the old saying about practice harder
385
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and the games are easier.
386
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I think that's what a lot of the
those schools are,
387
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you know, like you're saying about
the fancy medallions and stuff like that,
388
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that's practice, that's hard that
389
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that's going to up your game
no matter what you're doing.
390
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Install Santa, finish
391
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doing work like that, knowing how to run
that squirrel saw things like that.
392
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I think you're just going to be
a better contractor in the end.
393
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Doesn't mean you have to go out and do it
every single day.
394
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yeah.
395
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Well,
396
00:20:44,776 --> 00:20:46,812
and Tom Arata is the guy.
397
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All you are today is the guy do.
398
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Some incredible. Work.
I was trying to think of his name, but.
399
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Well, one of the.
400
00:20:53,885 --> 00:20:56,588
One of the best classes he has is the
is the jigs.
401
00:20:56,588 --> 00:20:59,191
Class. Yeah, that's the whole.
Thing is setting up.
402
00:20:59,191 --> 00:21:02,094
I mean, if you if you can set up the jigs
and process and get that.
403
00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:03,095
Down, then.
404
00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:04,896
Everything becomes way easier.
405
00:21:04,896 --> 00:21:07,432
There's a little bit of math
in doing some of those geometric floors
406
00:21:07,432 --> 00:21:10,836
and what have you, but really,
if you get the sledge set up.
407
00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:12,804
You get. Those dialed in, then.
408
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That's just as. Fun to me.
409
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Is making the making the
the actual floor,
410
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you know, getting it the right angles,
the right degree and everything
411
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and get those dialed in that,
that learning that
412
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and having those jigs man,
that is priceless.
413
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Because. That alone.
414
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That alone
415
00:21:29,621 --> 00:21:32,124
makes you such a better floor person.
416
00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:34,026
If you can get those that dialed in.
417
00:21:34,026 --> 00:21:36,995
So in that change,
those are game changers. Man.
418
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Yes, sir.
419
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Yeah. Yes, he do.
420
00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:43,969
And it's incredible what you can do.
421
00:21:44,036 --> 00:21:45,937
The first time I've ever seen someone,
you do a.
422
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Jig and the sled.
423
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Was. The guy,
424
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Jean Klotz from Renaissance Lawyers.
425
00:21:54,346 --> 00:21:57,282
He was doing fancy corners and
426
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he did a sled
and a jig that he could cut like ten,
427
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,690
ten a piece of wood at the same time
to make up the corner.
428
00:22:05,257 --> 00:22:08,560
So when you run it through the,
the sled, you're cutting like
429
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ten pieces at one time,
all different, all different sizes.
430
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And you know, to make up the corner
and that is pretty cool.
431
00:22:16,101 --> 00:22:20,038
He was making them so fast and so accurate
because it's the sled was dialed in.
432
00:22:20,539 --> 00:22:23,542
So, yeah, that's that's
kind of really interesting stuff to me.
433
00:22:24,109 --> 00:22:26,645
So. When I say the tools are better.
434
00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:30,515
My goodness, man.
435
00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:34,519
I mean, you you can now some of these
intricate flaws that we were doing.
436
00:22:35,087 --> 00:22:35,520
Back in the.
437
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Day, we would be
we would be on these things with an edger.
438
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You know what I mean?
We'd be on these things.
439
00:22:40,525 --> 00:22:44,262
And now with the power drive,
you hear this store and the.
440
00:22:44,296 --> 00:22:47,299
Abrasives are so much better.
441
00:22:47,899 --> 00:22:49,301
It was like caveman style.
442
00:22:49,301 --> 00:22:52,537
When I look back now at the braces
back in the eighties when I first started
443
00:22:52,537 --> 00:22:55,540
and some of the things we were doing
compared to today,
444
00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:58,443
it is unreal
how flat you can get these floors, man.
445
00:22:58,443 --> 00:23:00,445
Like we would take do a medallion.
446
00:23:00,445 --> 00:23:03,448
know,
we had some good choices for abrasives.
447
00:23:03,749 --> 00:23:07,052
You had aluminum oxide,
or you could use aluminum oxide
448
00:23:09,454 --> 00:23:12,457
and a screen.
449
00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:13,458
Yeah, it's.
450
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Yeah, I.
451
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I was talking to you the other day,
and I was talking to somebody
452
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at the convention,
and we kind of decided that the craft
453
00:23:58,970 --> 00:24:01,973
is used to be the sanding.
454
00:24:02,707 --> 00:24:06,912
The craft used to be the sanding because
the equipment, the equipment was rough.
455
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And to make a floor look good,
456
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it was. It was.
457
00:24:10,682 --> 00:24:11,249
It was rough.
458
00:24:11,249 --> 00:24:14,252
You had to go through a lot of steps
459
00:24:56,795 --> 00:24:57,429
People today.
460
00:24:57,429 --> 00:25:00,432
Well, go ahead. Sorry.
461
00:25:00,465 --> 00:25:04,970
People today will probably never, never
appreciate what you had to go through
462
00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:08,740
with a split drum, with a drum cylinder
and worrying about chatters.
463
00:25:09,407 --> 00:25:13,044
And. Hoping to God that, like,
sometimes you like you'd see them, but
464
00:25:13,044 --> 00:25:15,847
like, you kind of knew, like, all right,
I see them, but they're so slight.
465
00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:18,850
I know they'll go away when I stain it
versus
466
00:25:19,117 --> 00:25:21,186
I think they're going to show
through everything
467
00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:23,121
versus I put they look okay, but,
468
00:25:23,121 --> 00:25:26,391
but then you put the first coat on
and it brings them out versus
469
00:25:26,391 --> 00:25:29,394
if I see if I look at the floor
this direction, I don't see them.
470
00:25:29,394 --> 00:25:33,064
But turn around, I look at the floor
this direction, I see. Them and the
471
00:25:33,331 --> 00:25:37,335
the the stress over that over.
472
00:25:37,335 --> 00:25:39,237
The unfairness of working your.
473
00:25:39,237 --> 00:25:42,240
Butt off all week long, working so hard.
474
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To end up with shattered works.
475
00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:45,777
It's gone.
476
00:25:45,777 --> 00:25:49,114
I mean, really, truly the power drive
that's gone, that's I said
477
00:25:49,114 --> 00:25:52,517
it's just like I said years ago
when we first year we did this podcast,
478
00:25:52,517 --> 00:25:56,254
I said, Chatter marks,
you go away the way the Blue Tick plague,
479
00:25:56,721 --> 00:25:59,724
I mean, you should never have to deal
with tattoo marks again.
480
00:25:59,824 --> 00:26:01,560
So that's out of the equation.
481
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,128
But look, when you talk about finishing.
482
00:26:04,262 --> 00:26:06,364
I think the most.
483
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The biggest advance in finishing.
484
00:26:08,767 --> 00:26:10,902
In our
485
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lifetime.
486
00:26:12,604 --> 00:26:16,975
And it's not the it's not the end all be
all because there isn't a11 size fits all.
487
00:26:16,975 --> 00:26:17,876
We're finished.
488
00:26:17,876 --> 00:26:19,878
But I really do think when rolling came in
489
00:26:19,878 --> 00:26:23,348
and when finishes were formulated to roll
and not all of them are to this day,
490
00:26:23,381 --> 00:26:26,518
not all finishes can be rolled
I think rolling
491
00:26:27,552 --> 00:26:29,421
change the. Game.
492
00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:33,858
But even saying that I don't think it's
the it's is it's for every job
493
00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:35,527
I mean I think there's jobs
494
00:26:35,527 --> 00:26:39,564
when you should roll so you're some jobs
you whatever but some jobs you can't.
495
00:26:39,564 --> 00:26:43,101
Rule or shouldn't roll in my opinion but.
496
00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:48,940
Rolling has really changed the entire game
of finishing and has made that easier.
497
00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:53,078
But finishing, to your point, is still
a lot of craftsmanship
498
00:26:53,078 --> 00:26:55,380
comes with finishing
and it's all in preparation.
499
00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:58,683
The finishing,
the actual finishing of the job
500
00:26:58,683 --> 00:27:00,485
when you start to go on the floor.
501
00:27:00,485 --> 00:27:02,988
Okay, I'm going to go finish
the floor. Jay put a finish coat on.
502
00:27:03,989 --> 00:27:06,591
It's just a percentage of the actual job.
503
00:27:06,591 --> 00:27:08,426
There's much of it is the preparation.
504
00:27:08,426 --> 00:27:12,464
This the the abrasive braiding the floor,
the vacuuming, backing, vacuuming,
505
00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:15,133
tech dragging, doing all of that,
checking the lighting,
506
00:27:15,133 --> 00:27:17,402
putting plastic up, hanging plastic,
you know.
507
00:27:17,402 --> 00:27:19,437
Which. Direction
you go when you leave the job.
508
00:27:19,437 --> 00:27:22,207
All that that is all in.
509
00:27:22,207 --> 00:27:24,376
The envelope of of finishing.
510
00:27:24,376 --> 00:27:27,712
But the actual finishing
is just like a part of it.
511
00:27:27,712 --> 00:27:28,213
You know what I mean?
512
00:27:28,213 --> 00:27:31,116
If you did everything. Else perfectly.
513
00:27:31,116 --> 00:27:34,452
Then that and straightening the finish
and all these things and the applicator.
514
00:27:34,452 --> 00:27:35,120
Is it clean?
515
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:35,854
Is it
516
00:27:35,854 --> 00:27:39,157
How did you check that out and everything
and all these, all these 10 million
517
00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:42,293
things you have to do when it comes
to the actual finishing part?
518
00:27:42,994 --> 00:27:43,662
You can make you.
519
00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:45,497
Can set your life up to be.
520
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:48,500
A home run pretty much or a.
521
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:49,567
Struggle.
522
00:27:49,567 --> 00:27:52,303
And but I think rolling really changes
everything.
523
00:27:52,303 --> 00:27:56,041
And I want to say you were so much
not on the forefront of rolling.
524
00:27:56,374 --> 00:27:58,343
You were so behind at times.
525
00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:01,212
You missed the boat so badly on rowing.
526
00:28:01,212 --> 00:28:02,881
There's no getting away from this.
527
00:28:02,881 --> 00:28:08,753
I'm going to hold you to that because you
you missed the game altogether.
528
00:28:13,958 --> 00:28:14,993
I don't
529
00:28:14,993 --> 00:28:17,996
I want to explain to the audience.
530
00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:31,776
Up think of everything
that we used to offer in the old days.
531
00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:35,613
We offered for different things in the old
532
00:28:37,248 --> 00:28:39,718
there's.
533
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:42,487
Yeah,
534
00:28:42,487 --> 00:28:45,457
that's no,
535
00:28:46,858 --> 00:28:47,792
listen.
536
00:28:47,792 --> 00:28:50,328
That's no excuse. Listen, let me.
537
00:28:50,328 --> 00:28:53,331
Alfonzo Highlander invented the trowel.
538
00:28:53,364 --> 00:28:54,733
Okay?
539
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,736
The first guy to ever invent a drill,
540
00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:02,440
Alfonzo Highlander, invented the trial.
541
00:29:02,974 --> 00:29:03,908
You look that up.
542
00:29:03,908 --> 00:29:05,810
Wikipedia
543
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:08,179
is my great, great, great.
544
00:29:08,179 --> 00:29:11,216
So when I.
545
00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:11,783
When I talk.
546
00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:14,786
To you about rowing years and years ago,
547
00:29:14,953 --> 00:29:17,655
I said, Rob.
548
00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:19,190
How come we don't talk?
549
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:20,425
How can I come?
550
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:22,560
We were at another.
551
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,563
We were in another world.
552
00:29:25,897 --> 00:29:27,132
We were in another world.
553
00:29:27,132 --> 00:29:29,634
You and I worked for a different company,
whatever.
554
00:29:29,634 --> 00:29:31,436
And I. Came to you one day.
555
00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:33,238
With a roller in my hand.
556
00:29:33,238 --> 00:29:35,273
You know, And I said, Rob.
557
00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:37,242
How. Come we don't talk about rolling?
558
00:29:37,242 --> 00:29:41,746
You took the roller and threw it as far
as you could and said, We don't roll here.
559
00:29:41,946 --> 00:29:44,015
We're men, okay?
560
00:29:44,015 --> 00:29:45,984
We don't talk about rolling.
561
00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:48,219
I'm going to say
my feelings were hurt a little bit.
562
00:29:48,219 --> 00:29:48,853
Okay.
563
00:29:48,853 --> 00:29:52,357
That whatever this Rob Johnson who might
a question the great Rob Johnson.
564
00:29:54,492 --> 00:29:56,161
And then
565
00:29:56,161 --> 00:30:00,031
then then
you went then you went to Bono and.
566
00:30:00,031 --> 00:30:02,467
Rob working it Bono And.
That's pretty cool.
567
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:04,035
And you got a video out.
568
00:30:04,035 --> 00:30:05,870
So I said, All right, cool.
569
00:30:05,870 --> 00:30:08,406
And you're sitting down on a chair
and a nice bono shirt
570
00:30:08,406 --> 00:30:12,510
and you have a roller in your hand
and you said, Hi, I'm Rob Johnson.
571
00:30:12,911 --> 00:30:13,778
I'd like to talk to you about.
572
00:30:13,778 --> 00:30:18,116
Rolling and other
you can be kidding me right now.
573
00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:21,986
So you you never gave that?
574
00:30:27,892 --> 00:30:30,495
Yeah,
575
00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:31,796
I bet.
576
00:30:31,796 --> 00:30:33,631
Well, your world was different.
577
00:30:33,631 --> 00:30:34,499
As you said.
578
00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:36,000
was completely different.
579
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,003
We just didn't a lot of rolling
in, in the sport world.
580
00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:41,806
Everything was t bars, so.
581
00:30:41,806 --> 00:30:42,907
Yeah. Yeah.
582
00:30:42,907 --> 00:30:45,910
Well, I think
583
00:30:49,647 --> 00:30:52,650
exactly.
584
00:30:53,918 --> 00:30:55,386
Yep. levelers.
585
00:30:55,386 --> 00:31:01,326
They don't have the focus and things like
that that so you know, in our other life
586
00:31:03,127 --> 00:31:05,763
those finishes couldn't be rolled.
587
00:31:05,763 --> 00:31:09,267
So but I think that is
588
00:31:09,267 --> 00:31:12,937
one of the biggest advances for the floor
contractor that's come along in ages.
589
00:31:12,937 --> 00:31:14,505
And it took a long time.
590
00:31:14,505 --> 00:31:16,274
See, it's amazing how.
591
00:31:16,274 --> 00:31:18,409
Things catch on. Or don't. Or not.
592
00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:21,412
There's no hardly
any overnight sensations.
593
00:31:21,946 --> 00:31:25,183
A lot of guys didn't
594
00:31:25,183 --> 00:31:28,319
embrace rolling for the longest time
when it first came out.
595
00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:31,522
And now you see,
especially with the new kids coming up,
596
00:31:32,156 --> 00:31:34,325
almost everybody rolls more than they do
anything else.
597
00:31:34,325 --> 00:31:37,061
Like that's how they know
to put finish on. But that was not today.
598
00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:38,763
That was not the way it was done.
599
00:31:38,763 --> 00:31:40,832
You had to master the T-bar.
600
00:31:40,832 --> 00:31:43,835
If you're doing water based finish as I
601
00:31:47,238 --> 00:31:49,474
chroma demos
602
00:31:49,474 --> 00:31:52,477
and after the Chroma was down
603
00:31:53,344 --> 00:31:56,314
we were showing higher content intent
604
00:31:56,714 --> 00:32:00,118
using the Chroma to get a a glaze right
605
00:32:00,985 --> 00:32:06,391
and Robby pulls out a bucket
and he's going to roll out of the bucket.
606
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:08,993
Everything's going good.
607
00:32:08,993 --> 00:32:14,165
And one of the guys says, Can t bar it
or does it have to be rolled?
608
00:32:14,899 --> 00:32:18,803
And Robby looks on
right in front of everybody and I swear
609
00:32:18,803 --> 00:32:21,806
he did it just because I was in the room
and he knew I was listening.
610
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:24,142
He goes, Yeah, you can t bar.
611
00:32:24,142 --> 00:32:28,179
He said, But you know, t
bar is just so old fashioned.
612
00:32:28,179 --> 00:32:31,683
So yesterday, Well. wow.
613
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,762
Yeah. He.
614
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:49,968
Yeah, of course. Yes.
615
00:33:04,182 --> 00:33:07,185
No. Yeah, yeah.
616
00:33:07,352 --> 00:33:08,286
Yeah.
617
00:33:08,286 --> 00:33:09,654
You know, we say
618
00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:13,424
whatever, whatever works,
but I do think there's a leave room for.
619
00:33:13,424 --> 00:33:16,127
For. You know, exceptions.
620
00:33:16,127 --> 00:33:20,164
And I still say abreast is one of the best
ways you can put finish down.
621
00:33:20,732 --> 00:33:23,735
And there are times
when I brushed every job.
622
00:33:24,268 --> 00:33:26,838
And. There
to this day of a certain circumstances
623
00:33:26,838 --> 00:33:29,841
would make me brush a job
with a six inch brush.
624
00:33:30,241 --> 00:33:33,878
And that one being like when we did
516 floors
625
00:33:34,045 --> 00:33:37,715
that have a lot of lateral movement
626
00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:40,952
because they're not tongue and groove
and maybe the subfloor is not really good.
627
00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:44,389
I would never roll heavy code
on that floor ever,
628
00:33:44,589 --> 00:33:46,691
and I would never know where I would do
that.
629
00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:49,694
I would brush that floor
because that in my mind is an antique.
630
00:33:50,161 --> 00:33:51,963
That's a different animal altogether.
631
00:33:51,963 --> 00:33:52,764
And I brush it.
632
00:33:52,764 --> 00:33:55,767
And that brush that finish
on very lightly.
633
00:33:56,334 --> 00:33:56,801
And I.
634
00:33:56,801 --> 00:33:59,303
Might do two coach
instead of three. Coats.
635
00:33:59,303 --> 00:34:02,440
But I would treat that floor differently
than it was any other floor.
636
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,475
I seen a guy who. Who.
637
00:34:04,475 --> 00:34:08,846
Once I see this industry man is so tough
because one size fits all.
638
00:34:09,313 --> 00:34:11,916
He was a roller
and he tend to roll it on heavy
639
00:34:11,916 --> 00:34:16,054
because that is a success
he had and job after job that worked fine.
640
00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:17,588
He went to a 516 floors.
641
00:34:17,588 --> 00:34:19,257
They had a lot of lateral. Movement in it.
642
00:34:19,257 --> 00:34:22,860
They moved furniture on there after,
you know, five or six days of whatever,
643
00:34:23,127 --> 00:34:26,064
the floors up and down
that broke the seal.
644
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:28,866
And then you got white lines
throughout the heavyweight lines
645
00:34:28,866 --> 00:34:30,234
throughout the whole floor.
646
00:34:30,234 --> 00:34:34,138
And it was just because the finish broke
647
00:34:34,138 --> 00:34:37,341
the ceiling at every one of those boards
and allowed air to get.
648
00:34:37,341 --> 00:34:38,376
Underneath it.
649
00:34:38,376 --> 00:34:39,610
And causing problems.
650
00:34:39,610 --> 00:34:42,880
And if he had done that
and you brush the finish on,
651
00:34:42,947 --> 00:34:44,449
you may see a little bit of that.
652
00:34:44,449 --> 00:34:47,785
But it would go away in time,
but it would be
653
00:34:47,785 --> 00:34:49,320
way better approach to that floor.
654
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,888
So you never say never.
655
00:34:50,888 --> 00:34:53,124
There's never any one size fits all.
656
00:34:53,124 --> 00:34:56,094
You kind of have to know what
everything.
657
00:34:56,094 --> 00:35:00,565
the boner
trainings we do, we do a ton of both.
658
00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:03,000
And you know,
659
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,104
for the longest time people, you know,
what do you do?
660
00:35:06,737 --> 00:35:09,740
So I, i t borrow my sealers
661
00:35:10,041 --> 00:35:14,645
and I roll my top coach, I feel
I get a better finish and better coverage
662
00:35:14,645 --> 00:35:19,951
rates with a roller and I feel
I get more control on my sealers.
663
00:35:20,651 --> 00:35:24,255
But now I've even changed on that one
664
00:35:24,789 --> 00:35:27,792
because we do so many herringbone floors.
665
00:35:28,226 --> 00:35:31,229
All our training centers
now have herringbone
666
00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:41,405
roll rolling everything Yep.
667
00:35:43,341 --> 00:35:45,243
There you go.
668
00:35:45,243 --> 00:35:46,077
All right, Rob.
669
00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:49,080
I think we're at
about the end of the show.
670
00:35:49,714 --> 00:35:52,717
I thank you again
for your limited participation.
671
00:35:56,387 --> 00:35:58,556
Yeah, I did what I do.
672
00:35:58,556 --> 00:36:00,224
So. Okay.
673
00:36:00,224 --> 00:36:02,093
We have a really good show coming up.
674
00:36:02,093 --> 00:36:04,495
I think the interesting about the survey.
675
00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:07,732
So this has been another episode
of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
676
00:36:08,232 --> 00:36:09,600
Please stay tuned for another episode.