On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Deep dive into Bona Red Out™ and Bona Domo™

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob answer the most asked questions when using new products Bona Red Out™ and Bona Domo™. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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Hello welcome to another

 

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episode of On the Floor

 

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with Wayne and Rob and Wayne

 

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Highlander, National Sales

 

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Manager for Bona Adhesives.

 

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And I'm Rob Johnson.

 

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And as you can

 

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tell from my new sweat jacket and my hat,

 

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from Bona Training.

 

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All right, Rob, how are we doing?

 

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Oh, pretty good, buddy. How you doing?

 

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I'm doing good enough for the banter.

 

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Let's get right to it.

 

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But I got to say this.

 

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Can you believe that?

 

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We're coming up on 200 shows?

 

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That is hard to believe.

 

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I mean, just think about that number 200

 

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that you know, and you just rattle off.

 

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2020 is a lot.

 

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You know what I mean?

 

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I mean, coming up with

 

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a show every every week

 

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and they're every week,

 

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they're not like once a month

 

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or every two weeks.

 

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They're sporadically we're as consistent

 

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as the clock.

 

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I mean. Yes, yes.

 

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As you know, we've never is one.

 

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It's like work, Rob.

 

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Never.

 

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No, it's not.

 

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We miss Joy.

 

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It's a joy talking.

 

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Oh, no, no, no.

 

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I'm talking about like doing the

 

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when we were contracts.

 

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No word, whatever.

 

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Oh yeah.

 

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Every time punching the clock.

 

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Yeah, absolutely.

 

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200 shows a lot.

 

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Damn. Hmm.

 

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And thanks to all those guys out there,

 

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people out there

 

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who have been listening to us.

 

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We really appreciate. It.

 

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Yeah, no, no question.

 

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All right, Rob,

 

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let's talk about Red Out.

 

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And we did a show recently about Red Out,

 

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but I'm getting a lot of questions

 

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about read out.

 

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And I think you are, too.

 

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And so

 

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I see people

 

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that need some clarification.

 

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So why don't we just kind of revisit

 

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that subject?

 

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Yes, absolutely.

 

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You know, when you said

 

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let's do another one about red out

 

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and I thought we just

 

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what we do it about a month ago,

 

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maybe even

 

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I don't know, around a month ago. But

 

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now, since it's really taken off

 

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and I mean, it has. Mm hmm.

 

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Holy smokes.

 

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Has it taken off?

 

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We are getting more and more question

 

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every day about this, so

 

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let's dove into it.

 

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But yeah, so we won't go

 

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what what the product does.

 

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And we already kind of talked

 

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about what red out does.

 

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If you have in this episode,

 

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then you just go back

 

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a few episodes

 

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to talk about

 

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taking the red out of Red Oak

 

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and those type of things.

 

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But some of the questions

 

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I've gotten is, is the application,

 

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you know, we say in our directions,

 

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you know, you roll it out

 

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with a with a roll or whatever, you bet.

 

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You brought this to my attention

 

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that that you see

 

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a lot of guys using waterways

 

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the waterways tool that they feel like

 

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they have more control over it

 

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and they like that better.

 

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I have talked to guys

 

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that use an 18 inch roller

 

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and prefer an 18 inch roller

 

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as there is they're applying it now.

 

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I will say something about that, too.

 

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If you're a guy, use

 

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a nine inch roller to to apply finish

 

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and you've kind of been curious

 

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about using an 18 inch roller.

 

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A lot of guys have moved on to

 

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an 18 inch roller,

 

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especially with big open rooms.

 

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I don't know.

 

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Maybe there's an opportunity

 

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for you to also get the

 

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feel of an 18 inch roller

 

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just

 

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it might be good experience.

 

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So I'm big jobs.

 

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I could definitely see moving

 

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to an 18 inch roller with this product.

 

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You know,

 

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I like where you're going there.

 

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And I'll tell you why.

 

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You know, for years, you and I have been

 

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you know, we've been on the forefront of

 

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taking guys who are poly guys

 

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and moving them into water.

 

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And, you know,

 

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especially where

 

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we used to do a lot more T-bar

 

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and then rolling.

 

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And I always told guys,

 

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if you want to get used to T-bar

 

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and T-bar, your oil, it's more forgiving

 

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and it'll get to some good muscle memory.

 

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So I like where you're going on that

 

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18 inch roller.

 

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I'd probably like to try it myself

 

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because I know a lot of people do.

 

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18 inch roller.

 

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I have never used an 18 inch roller,

 

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so that could be a good way

 

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to get to get used to it.

 

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Yeah I on some jobs being a valet

 

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and finished down

 

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I mean big open rooms

 

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and here's the thing

 

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you change with the times. So

 

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when we were back

 

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doing floors

 

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back in the day and years ago

 

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and especially in certain parts of towns

 

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and now like I'll take Piedmont,

 

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California, for instance,

 

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one of the most high end neighborhoods

 

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in northern California.

 

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But there

 

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and there's not an open concept room

 

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in that entire neighborhood.

 

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I mean, they're all old homes,

 

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1930s, whatever. Beautiful.

 

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They're all mansions.

 

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They're fabulous.

 

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But they're they're small rooms.

 

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So an 18 inch roller there?

 

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Maybe not.

 

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But now that the industry has changed,

 

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we've gone to these wide

 

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open concept rooms.

 

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The 18 inch roller starts

 

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to make a lot more sense.

 

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Another one do not spray this stuff.

 

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You want to stay away from spraying.

 

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It's just one of those things

 

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that shouldn't be atomized or,

 

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you know, inhale type of thing.

 

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Also, Rob, what I have recognized and

 

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is that

 

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the part A, you want to

 

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just make sure you keep

 

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that stirred very well.

 

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All right.

 

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Here is your plan.

 

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All right, partner.

 

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And you are just such a corporate stooge

 

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and so far away from everything.

 

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First of all, it is not a part A.

 

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It is part one. Okay.

 

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Which is going to lead me down

 

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the next path.

 

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Okay.

 

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It's a one and then a two.

 

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And I'm

 

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pretty sure the reason that we did

 

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this is back in the day

 

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when you and I were still

 

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doing this for real.

 

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There was a product out there

 

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that we used to bleach floors

 

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with, I forget the name of it,

 

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and had an A and a B

 

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and you mixed it together.

 

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That it ran with wood coat?

 

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I have no idea.

 

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I remember

 

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it was in a red

 

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and gold box or something. Yeah. Okay.

 

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But I think that's why

 

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Boehner went

 

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with calling it a one and a two.

 

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Like a first step and a second step.

 

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Because I'm glad you said A and B,

 

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because that's going to lead me

 

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into the next thing I want to talk about

 

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is I have a lot of guys calling saying,

 

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do I mix the two together?

 

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Okay. Okay.

 

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You do not mix the two together.

 

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And I

 

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like I said,

 

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I think that's

 

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the reason that they call it

 

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a number one and a number 2/1 step

 

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and then a second step, not in a in a B.

 

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Okay.

 

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Would it be a good idea to keep

 

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the part one stirred really well

 

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while you're applying it?

 

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Well,

 

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as far as that's

 

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concerned, product management said

 

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it's really not a big deal

 

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because, yes,

 

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we've all seen some settling,

 

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but once it's mixed,

 

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you're still going to get that

 

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chemical reaction.

 

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Now, me personally, I've been working.

 

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I found this bucket

 

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that I really like working out of.

 

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It's like

 

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a cross between a five gallon pail and

 

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paint tray.

 

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Okay.

 

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And with that,

 

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I can constantly be mixing it

 

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because for the longest time

 

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I did see a little settlement

 

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settling

 

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and I thought,

 

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Oh, I got to keep this mixed.

 

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Well, when we asked project management

 

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about that, they said no once.

 

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It's all shook and everything.

 

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You know,

 

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that little settlement

 

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settling, settlement settling thing

 

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isn't going to.

 

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You can do it.

 

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Create a try and really try.

 

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It's not going to create any issues,

 

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but it's still something that

 

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that's what product management is saying.

 

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As far as US floor guys

 

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and what

 

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I'm going to want to keep it all mixed.

 

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And I found that that

 

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game that little chair that.

 

265

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It's a

 

266

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it's a portray

 

267

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what you're doing is like a paint

 

268

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it's like a bucket in a pallet in a tray.

 

269

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Yeah.

 

270

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Or it's more like a big tray.

 

271

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And the thing I liked about it,

 

272

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I mean it hold a few gallons,

 

273

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but it also has like an insert for $0.50.

 

274

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So you can just throw them weight

 

275

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after cleaning anything, just,

 

276

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you know, throw the stuff away.

 

277

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But I'm with you.

 

278

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I definitely want it,

 

279

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you know, wanted that stuff

 

280

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to stay mixed.

 

281

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Guys constantly re mixing it.

 

282

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But according

 

283

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to part of product management,

 

284

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it wasn't that big an issue.

 

285

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Okay.

 

286

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And so you put part one down, you wait

 

287

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at least 15 minutes,

 

288

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but at some sometimes it

 

289

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the floor still may look a little funky

 

290

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after 15 minutes

 

291

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or it may look still damp.

 

292

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But as long as you wait

 

293

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15 minutes, you're good, correct. And go

 

294

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15 minutes is the absolute minimum.

 

295

00:09:03,776 --> 00:09:04,443

Okay.

 

296

00:09:04,477 --> 00:09:05,645

We've been

 

297

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I've been telling her, like,

 

298

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give it a half hour.

 

299

00:09:08,347 --> 00:09:09,815

Yeah. Give it a half hour.

 

300

00:09:09,815 --> 00:09:11,183

So we have a good.

 

301

00:09:11,183 --> 00:09:12,018

You want to go to

 

302

00:09:12,018 --> 00:09:13,920

get a good chemical reaction with that

 

303

00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,187

a okay.

 

304

00:09:15,187 --> 00:09:18,791

Is it can you it can you wait too long.

 

305

00:09:18,824 --> 00:09:20,192

Yes. Okay.

 

306

00:09:20,192 --> 00:09:20,526

Yeah.

 

307

00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:21,394

Yeah.

 

308

00:09:21,394 --> 00:09:23,496

I mean, you don't want to wait hours.

 

309

00:09:23,496 --> 00:09:23,729

Okay.

 

310

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You want to be cup of coffee type thing.

 

311

00:09:26,732 --> 00:09:27,400

Yeah. Okay.

 

312

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Couple of calls,

 

313

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cup of coffee or whatever.

 

314

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But you don't want to let this thing

 

315

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sit for hours.

 

316

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Okay, good stuff.

 

317

00:09:36,208 --> 00:09:36,576

All right.

 

318

00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:37,577

Well, that's all the questions

 

319

00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:38,210

and everything

 

320

00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:40,346

that I've been getting over over the over

 

321

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the last few weeks

 

322

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since we did the podcast.

 

323

00:09:42,748 --> 00:09:44,584

Any anything else on your end?

 

324

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Yeah, we have a ton of people

 

325

00:09:47,286 --> 00:09:48,955

wanting to know how it's going to look

 

326

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on other species.

 

327

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Okay.

 

328

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And the the crazy part is

 

329

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like let's do is an example.

 

330

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There is tons

 

331

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and tons of Brazilian cherry

 

332

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around New Jersey and metro New York.

 

333

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Okay.

 

334

00:10:06,005 --> 00:10:07,139

They went crazy with it

 

335

00:10:07,139 --> 00:10:08,874

back in the nineties.

 

336

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So now the big question is, is

 

337

00:10:10,276 --> 00:10:12,812

can you get the red

 

338

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out of the Brazilian cherry?

 

339

00:10:14,914 --> 00:10:16,949

Well, we put it on some Brazilian cherry.

 

340

00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:18,117

And Wayne,

 

341

00:10:18,117 --> 00:10:19,251

it was the prettiest

 

342

00:10:19,251 --> 00:10:22,054

light brown color you ever saw.

 

343

00:10:22,054 --> 00:10:25,057

It was beautiful, huh?

 

344

00:10:25,057 --> 00:10:26,592

How do you know that?

 

345

00:10:26,892 --> 00:10:28,928

Because we did. It like that

 

346

00:10:28,928 --> 00:10:30,529

that I ever saw.

 

347

00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:31,397

Just kidding.

 

348

00:10:31,397 --> 00:10:33,265

You can edit that out

 

349

00:10:34,934 --> 00:10:35,835

anyways.

 

350

00:10:35,835 --> 00:10:38,137

So. Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

 

351

00:10:38,137 --> 00:10:38,838

Okay.

 

352

00:10:39,038 --> 00:10:40,673

So that's what I saw.

 

353

00:10:40,673 --> 00:10:43,109

Okay, on the floor that we did.

 

354

00:10:43,109 --> 00:10:45,778

Okay, now, once I threw that out there

 

355

00:10:46,178 --> 00:10:47,847

and during the, you know, the

 

356

00:10:47,847 --> 00:10:48,280

the meeting

 

357

00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:48,848

we have

 

358

00:10:48,848 --> 00:10:49,949

with some of the teams

 

359

00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:50,983

and guys, we've been using

 

360

00:10:50,983 --> 00:10:52,084

it and product management,

 

361

00:10:53,119 --> 00:10:56,288

it was all over the place we present.

 

362

00:10:56,288 --> 00:10:57,289

Cherry

 

363

00:10:57,456 --> 00:10:58,858

Some people said, Yeah,

 

364

00:10:58,858 --> 00:11:00,059

mine turned great.

 

365

00:11:00,059 --> 00:11:01,360

It looked beautiful.

 

366

00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,828

Other guys are saying

 

367

00:11:02,828 --> 00:11:04,730

ugliest thing I ever saw in my life.

 

368

00:11:04,730 --> 00:11:05,598

It turned orange.

 

369

00:11:05,598 --> 00:11:06,699

It did this, it did that.

 

370

00:11:06,699 --> 00:11:07,600

So,

 

371

00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:10,169

you know, as far as species

 

372

00:11:10,169 --> 00:11:13,005

specific here, I will tell you one thing.

 

373

00:11:13,005 --> 00:11:14,106

I mean, like I said,

 

374

00:11:14,106 --> 00:11:16,242

I saw it look great on Brazilian cherry.

 

375

00:11:16,242 --> 00:11:17,877

Other people said it.

 

376

00:11:17,877 --> 00:11:19,478

It looked like hell when I did it.

 

377

00:11:19,478 --> 00:11:20,813

Brazilian cherry.

 

378

00:11:20,813 --> 00:11:22,148

But everybody agreed

 

379

00:11:22,148 --> 00:11:23,883

so far that on White Oak,

 

380

00:11:23,883 --> 00:11:25,251

it just turns it green.

 

381

00:11:25,251 --> 00:11:26,052

So unless you're

 

382

00:11:26,052 --> 00:11:28,120

looking for a green floor,

 

383

00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:28,688

you know,

 

384

00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:30,756

don't put this on White Oak because,

 

385

00:11:31,457 --> 00:11:32,058

well,

 

386

00:11:32,091 --> 00:11:32,491

I shouldn't

 

387

00:11:32,491 --> 00:11:34,627

say don't put it on there chemically.

 

388

00:11:34,627 --> 00:11:36,295

You can put it on there.

 

389

00:11:36,295 --> 00:11:38,631

I'm just saying what it look like

 

390

00:11:38,631 --> 00:11:41,100

when we put it on there. Okay.

 

391

00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:43,202

And I heard other guys in that meeting

 

392

00:11:43,202 --> 00:11:43,969

say the same thing.

 

393

00:11:43,969 --> 00:11:45,971

Yeah, White Oak, it just turn, you know,

 

394

00:11:45,971 --> 00:11:47,406

wicked green.

 

395

00:11:47,406 --> 00:11:49,575

Yeah, it's not it's not really

 

396

00:11:49,575 --> 00:11:50,643

I mean, it's,

 

397

00:11:50,643 --> 00:11:50,910

you know,

 

398

00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:51,977

we went after Red

 

399

00:11:51,977 --> 00:11:53,646

Oak with this primary is.

 

400

00:11:53,646 --> 00:11:56,382

Exactly and of course

 

401

00:11:56,382 --> 00:11:58,384

you know you know like we always say,

 

402

00:11:58,384 --> 00:11:59,885

you know, we bring something out

 

403

00:12:00,853 --> 00:12:01,420

and then

 

404

00:12:01,420 --> 00:12:03,189

everybody starts using it

 

405

00:12:03,189 --> 00:12:04,690

and what's it going to be good for?

 

406

00:12:04,690 --> 00:12:05,558

What can I get?

 

407

00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:06,525

You know, everybody's

 

408

00:12:06,525 --> 00:12:08,127

always looking to get something,

 

409

00:12:08,127 --> 00:12:09,428

you know, everybody

 

410

00:12:09,428 --> 00:12:11,931

looking for the next iron acetate

 

411

00:12:12,098 --> 00:12:13,632

type of the deal.

 

412

00:12:13,632 --> 00:12:15,234

And so we've had a lot of

 

413

00:12:15,234 --> 00:12:16,469

people experimenting

 

414

00:12:16,469 --> 00:12:20,272

with this on different,

 

415

00:12:20,272 --> 00:12:20,973

you know, different

 

416

00:12:20,973 --> 00:12:21,974

species and everything.

 

417

00:12:21,974 --> 00:12:22,975

So all I can say,

 

418

00:12:22,975 --> 00:12:23,309

if you're going

 

419

00:12:23,309 --> 00:12:25,144

to do something like that, like Wayne

 

420

00:12:25,144 --> 00:12:26,212

just said,

 

421

00:12:27,113 --> 00:12:28,681

it's made for Red Oak.

 

422

00:12:28,681 --> 00:12:31,617

It's made to take the red

 

423

00:12:31,617 --> 00:12:32,651

out of Red Oak,

 

424

00:12:32,651 --> 00:12:33,285

what you're going to get

 

425

00:12:33,285 --> 00:12:35,821

with some of the other species.

 

426

00:12:35,955 --> 00:12:38,157

So it's a crapshoot.

 

427

00:12:38,157 --> 00:12:39,592

If I was doing Brazilian Cherry

 

428

00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,127

and I was curious about that,

 

429

00:12:41,127 --> 00:12:43,229

I obviously do a test, right?

 

430

00:12:43,229 --> 00:12:44,063

Oh, my God.

 

431

00:12:44,063 --> 00:12:45,831

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

 

432

00:12:45,831 --> 00:12:46,699

Because I

 

433

00:12:46,699 --> 00:12:48,434

when I saw it on the Brazilian cherry,

 

434

00:12:48,434 --> 00:12:48,901

we did.

 

435

00:12:48,901 --> 00:12:51,370

I'm like, holy crap, this is going to be,

 

436

00:12:52,238 --> 00:12:53,139

you know, we're going to do this

 

437

00:12:53,139 --> 00:12:54,840

on every Brazilian cherry job.

 

438

00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,008

Until I heard other guys

 

439

00:12:56,008 --> 00:12:59,678

saying, Oh, no, it was so.

 

440

00:12:59,678 --> 00:13:02,915

So the challenge with that is, okay,

 

441

00:13:03,482 --> 00:13:04,383

I'm in the job.

 

442

00:13:04,383 --> 00:13:05,184

The homeowner says, gosh,

 

443

00:13:05,184 --> 00:13:05,851

I hate to read a

 

444

00:13:05,851 --> 00:13:07,553

I hate to read in that Brazilian cherry.

 

445

00:13:07,553 --> 00:13:09,188

I'd like to get rid of it.

 

446

00:13:09,188 --> 00:13:09,989

And you're thinking,

 

447

00:13:09,989 --> 00:13:12,091

well, red out might do it,

 

448

00:13:12,091 --> 00:13:13,325

but then again it may not.

 

449

00:13:13,325 --> 00:13:14,226

And you're going to

 

450

00:13:14,226 --> 00:13:15,427

you're not going to able to find out

 

451

00:13:15,427 --> 00:13:16,896

until you test an area.

 

452

00:13:16,896 --> 00:13:18,664

Oh, yeah, it's just an area, right?

 

453

00:13:18,664 --> 00:13:19,298

Yeah. Yeah.

 

454

00:13:19,298 --> 00:13:21,500

It's the same thing for American Cherry.

 

455

00:13:21,667 --> 00:13:23,469

But what I want the customers

 

456

00:13:23,469 --> 00:13:23,736

to know

 

457

00:13:23,736 --> 00:13:26,005

that our customers do know that up front

 

458

00:13:26,005 --> 00:13:28,307

the contractor right?

 

459

00:13:28,307 --> 00:13:30,676

Yes. Means so. Yeah. So. Okay.

 

460

00:13:30,976 --> 00:13:31,544

And it could

 

461

00:13:31,544 --> 00:13:32,378

and it could be

 

462

00:13:32,378 --> 00:13:34,013

beauty is in the eye of the beholder

 

463

00:13:34,013 --> 00:13:36,482

type thing to what one guy says.

 

464

00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:37,149

It looks great.

 

465

00:13:37,149 --> 00:13:38,751

Another guy might not

 

466

00:13:38,751 --> 00:13:39,585

they may not like it.

 

467

00:13:39,585 --> 00:13:41,120

And during that meeting,

 

468

00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:41,387

you know,

 

469

00:13:41,387 --> 00:13:42,721

I didn't want to split hairs,

 

470

00:13:42,721 --> 00:13:45,624

but what somebody was calling orange,

 

471

00:13:45,624 --> 00:13:47,426

I could have been calling light brown

 

472

00:13:47,426 --> 00:13:48,561

on the Brazilian cherry.

 

473

00:13:48,561 --> 00:13:50,996

I thought it was a great look.

 

474

00:13:50,996 --> 00:13:51,564

Like I said,

 

475

00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:53,065

that was just on the one Florida

 

476

00:13:53,065 --> 00:13:54,600

we did not. Okay.

 

477

00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,168

You know so

 

478

00:13:56,168 --> 00:13:58,270

and that's a good point

 

479

00:13:58,404 --> 00:13:59,705

because we don't want to oversell it.

 

480

00:13:59,705 --> 00:13:59,939

Right.

 

481

00:13:59,939 --> 00:14:00,773

We want people to be happy

 

482

00:14:00,773 --> 00:14:01,640

with the experience with it.

 

483

00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,009

So think of this as primarily

 

484

00:14:04,009 --> 00:14:05,244

we're taking the red out of red out.

 

485

00:14:05,244 --> 00:14:06,312

That's what we shot for.

 

486

00:14:06,312 --> 00:14:08,214

That's what you would in the industry.

 

487

00:14:08,214 --> 00:14:10,416

I mean, how many times in our career

 

488

00:14:11,016 --> 00:14:12,852

that we would love to be able

 

489

00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:14,386

to do that back in the day? Right.

 

490

00:14:14,386 --> 00:14:15,354

You got a pink floral

 

491

00:14:15,354 --> 00:14:16,422

I'm going to go white stain.

 

492

00:14:16,422 --> 00:14:17,890

I want to do whatever I want go natural.

 

493

00:14:17,890 --> 00:14:20,392

But I don't like that pink cast to it.

 

494

00:14:20,392 --> 00:14:20,559

Right.

 

495

00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:22,027

This is what we went after

 

496

00:14:22,027 --> 00:14:24,330

if it works on other other areas

 

497

00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:25,264

or different species.

 

498

00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:27,833

I mean, you know, I think just test

 

499

00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:29,435

is the answer.

 

500

00:14:29,435 --> 00:14:30,769

To the test.

 

501

00:14:30,769 --> 00:14:32,571

Test like crazy.

 

502

00:14:32,571 --> 00:14:34,206

It was never designed for White Oaks.

 

503

00:14:34,206 --> 00:14:35,875

I don't even know why you'd want to.

 

504

00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:37,243

You know, that was never the.

 

505

00:14:37,243 --> 00:14:38,677

Target, I swear.

 

506

00:14:38,677 --> 00:14:41,280

It's that going back to the iron acetate,

 

507

00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,649

people are thinking, well, you know,

 

508

00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:44,950

you know, our listeners,

 

509

00:14:44,950 --> 00:14:45,818

you know, the people out there,

 

510

00:14:45,818 --> 00:14:47,353

everybody's looking for the next new

 

511

00:14:48,587 --> 00:14:49,555

the next new trend.

 

512

00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:50,723

So this might get them there

 

513

00:14:50,723 --> 00:14:52,091

a little quicker.

 

514

00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:53,659

But man, oh, man.

 

515

00:14:53,659 --> 00:14:54,693

I mean, it

 

516

00:14:54,693 --> 00:14:56,295

it was pretty ugly on the white

 

517

00:14:56,295 --> 00:14:57,496

oak that I saw.

 

518

00:14:57,496 --> 00:14:58,397

Okay.

 

519

00:14:58,430 --> 00:14:58,998

So you said

 

520

00:14:58,998 --> 00:15:01,100

it's in the eyes of the beholder.

 

521

00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:01,867

Okay.

 

522

00:15:01,867 --> 00:15:04,169

So this is again,

 

523

00:15:04,770 --> 00:15:06,939

you can do one coat or you can do this

 

524

00:15:07,206 --> 00:15:08,874

if you want to get even more red out,

 

525

00:15:08,874 --> 00:15:10,776

you may end up wanting to do two coats.

 

526

00:15:10,776 --> 00:15:12,711

So it's a one or two coat application.

 

527

00:15:12,711 --> 00:15:13,245

Yeah.

 

528

00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:15,214

And let's, let's talk about that coat.

 

529

00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:16,148

Okay.

 

530

00:15:16,615 --> 00:15:19,084

When I said kind of like water popping

 

531

00:15:20,252 --> 00:15:22,788

one, we don't want to spray it too.

 

532

00:15:22,821 --> 00:15:24,490

You want to be as even as possible

 

533

00:15:24,490 --> 00:15:25,958

with this. Okay.

 

534

00:15:25,958 --> 00:15:27,293

That was one of the things that I like

 

535

00:15:27,293 --> 00:15:28,627

about the tea bar in the water

 

536

00:15:28,627 --> 00:15:32,765

was is you could really get a nice home

 

537

00:15:32,765 --> 00:15:36,068

and that was a lisp, a nice smooth

 

538

00:15:37,102 --> 00:15:38,003

finish with it.

 

539

00:15:38,003 --> 00:15:38,871

Okay.

 

540

00:15:38,871 --> 00:15:40,572

But what you have to watch

 

541

00:15:40,572 --> 00:15:42,007

if you're going to apply it with that,

 

542

00:15:42,007 --> 00:15:43,275

I mean, the thing

 

543

00:15:43,275 --> 00:15:45,077

that I like to plan out with a roller

 

544

00:15:45,077 --> 00:15:47,313

is I got great coverage rates.

 

545

00:15:47,313 --> 00:15:48,547

And the thing I noticed with

 

546

00:15:48,547 --> 00:15:50,215

the water was

 

547

00:15:50,215 --> 00:15:51,550

some of the guys who were trying

 

548

00:15:51,550 --> 00:15:53,452

the water was were putting it down

 

549

00:15:53,452 --> 00:15:55,754

a little too thick, a little light.

 

550

00:15:55,754 --> 00:15:58,624

So you want to be pretty consistent here.

 

551

00:15:58,624 --> 00:15:59,625

You want to make sure

 

552

00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:01,727

that you get enough of that juice

 

553

00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:02,761

out there to,

 

554

00:16:02,761 --> 00:16:03,128

you know,

 

555

00:16:03,128 --> 00:16:04,563

get the chemical reaction

 

556

00:16:04,563 --> 00:16:05,898

we're looking for.

 

557

00:16:05,898 --> 00:16:06,699

So that's what

 

558

00:16:06,699 --> 00:16:08,033

you want to be careful with

 

559

00:16:08,033 --> 00:16:09,034

if you're not going to go

 

560

00:16:09,034 --> 00:16:10,536

with the roller.

 

561

00:16:10,536 --> 00:16:11,136

You know, like

 

562

00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:14,239

the recommendation is a roller right now.

 

563

00:16:14,239 --> 00:16:15,808

But, you know, we know how it is.

 

564

00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:17,643

Guys start using it and working with it.

 

565

00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:19,311

You know, I kind of

 

566

00:16:19,311 --> 00:16:21,413

like using a little of both

 

567

00:16:21,413 --> 00:16:21,981

just because

 

568

00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:22,548

I think we're

 

569

00:16:22,548 --> 00:16:23,882

just trying to see

 

570

00:16:23,882 --> 00:16:25,818

what we thought was best,

 

571

00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:28,220

the consistency.

 

572

00:16:28,387 --> 00:16:28,887

Okay.

 

573

00:16:28,887 --> 00:16:29,588

I just liked it

 

574

00:16:29,588 --> 00:16:30,856

a little bit better

 

575

00:16:30,856 --> 00:16:31,857

for the consistency,

 

576

00:16:31,857 --> 00:16:33,726

but you got to make sure

 

577

00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:36,295

that you're putting it down

 

578

00:16:36,295 --> 00:16:37,496

at the correct coverage rates.

 

579

00:16:37,496 --> 00:16:39,031

If you put it down too thin,

 

580

00:16:39,031 --> 00:16:40,332

you're just not going to get

 

581

00:16:40,332 --> 00:16:42,001

the results you're looking for.

 

582

00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:44,103

I think that can't be overstated,

 

583

00:16:45,137 --> 00:16:45,804

you know,

 

584

00:16:45,804 --> 00:16:47,806

because you want the results from this

 

585

00:16:47,806 --> 00:16:48,240

and you know,

 

586

00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,376

and so you make sure you do

 

587

00:16:50,376 --> 00:16:52,478

put it down at the right consistency

 

588

00:16:52,478 --> 00:16:53,712

because if you do put it on today,

 

589

00:16:53,712 --> 00:16:54,580

you won't get that.

 

590

00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:56,648

You'll be disappointed in it. Exactly.

 

591

00:16:56,915 --> 00:16:59,184

So coverage is is key.

 

592

00:16:59,184 --> 00:17:01,120

Another thing that I found,

 

593

00:17:02,187 --> 00:17:03,689

you look at it,

 

594

00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:06,258

let's say we put down the number one

 

595

00:17:06,258 --> 00:17:07,993

good coverage rate

 

596

00:17:07,993 --> 00:17:09,328

and then we wait a half hour,

 

597

00:17:09,328 --> 00:17:11,497

we put down the number two

 

598

00:17:11,497 --> 00:17:13,766

and in like an hour, it's dry.

 

599

00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:14,199

Okay.

 

600

00:17:14,199 --> 00:17:15,234

And you're looking at it going,

 

601

00:17:15,234 --> 00:17:18,337

oh, that yeah, that looks okay.

 

602

00:17:18,337 --> 00:17:20,039

I'm telling you, it's crazy.

 

603

00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:20,305

I mean,

 

604

00:17:20,305 --> 00:17:21,040

this is the one thing

 

605

00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,508

that I have seen with it

 

606

00:17:22,508 --> 00:17:25,477

every single time I've used it.

 

607

00:17:25,477 --> 00:17:26,745

Come back the next day

 

608

00:17:26,745 --> 00:17:27,946

and then take a look at it.

 

609

00:17:27,946 --> 00:17:30,282

It's completely different.

 

610

00:17:30,282 --> 00:17:31,850

I mean, when you see it after,

 

611

00:17:31,850 --> 00:17:34,920

it's really worked overnight, man.

 

612

00:17:35,154 --> 00:17:37,589

Yeah, that's when you really see that.

 

613

00:17:37,623 --> 00:17:39,658

I mean, they got the red out and,

 

614

00:17:40,192 --> 00:17:40,926

you know, the panels

 

615

00:17:40,926 --> 00:17:42,361

we got in New Jersey,

 

616

00:17:42,361 --> 00:17:44,163

I mean, those are 300 foot panels.

 

617

00:17:44,163 --> 00:17:47,232

So you can really see it.

 

618

00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,133

Yeah,

 

619

00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:49,068

you could really see

 

620

00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:49,802

the difference in it,

 

621

00:17:49,802 --> 00:17:52,037

especially when it went overnight.

 

622

00:17:52,037 --> 00:17:53,138

And then,

 

623

00:17:53,138 --> 00:17:55,274

you know, to get out even more,

 

624

00:17:55,274 --> 00:17:56,642

the second application

 

625

00:17:57,709 --> 00:18:00,079

where you did the same thing, put one,

 

626

00:18:00,479 --> 00:18:03,682

waited a half hour, rolled out your two

 

627

00:18:03,682 --> 00:18:05,350

and then let that sit overnight.

 

628

00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:07,352

And then I Tonya, you.

 

629

00:18:07,352 --> 00:18:08,387

It's amazing.

 

630

00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:10,589

So let's stop right there,

 

631

00:18:10,589 --> 00:18:12,357

because, you know,

 

632

00:18:12,357 --> 00:18:14,660

we had no solution for this

 

633

00:18:14,660 --> 00:18:15,828

for a long time.

 

634

00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:16,161

You know,

 

635

00:18:16,161 --> 00:18:17,196

no viable solution,

 

636

00:18:17,196 --> 00:18:18,897

especially on the level of this one

 

637

00:18:18,897 --> 00:18:20,566

in our industry for a long, long time.

 

638

00:18:20,566 --> 00:18:22,835

Certainly the 30 years that I did floors

 

639

00:18:22,835 --> 00:18:24,770

and now we have a solution.

 

640

00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:25,671

Okay.

 

641

00:18:25,737 --> 00:18:28,440

So you're offering a great service

 

642

00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,275

and a great upgrade

 

643

00:18:30,275 --> 00:18:32,344

to your to your client.

 

644

00:18:32,344 --> 00:18:33,879

So you might say, well,

 

645

00:18:33,879 --> 00:18:35,214

I have to wait till the next day

 

646

00:18:35,214 --> 00:18:36,748

before it before they see that

 

647

00:18:36,748 --> 00:18:38,016

result or whatever.

 

648

00:18:38,016 --> 00:18:40,819

But so men really want to charge for this

 

649

00:18:41,053 --> 00:18:42,254

because

 

650

00:18:42,488 --> 00:18:43,288

I mean, gosh,

 

651

00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:45,357

I mean, you're solving a problem.

 

652

00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:47,926

So do make sure you charge for this.

 

653

00:18:47,926 --> 00:18:48,927

And I don't know what people

 

654

00:18:48,927 --> 00:18:49,595

will even charge.

 

655

00:18:49,595 --> 00:18:49,761

I don't

 

656

00:18:49,761 --> 00:18:50,896

I haven't even thought about cost

 

657

00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:53,198

and what people charge for this now,

 

658

00:18:53,198 --> 00:18:54,633

but I would make sure they listen.

 

659

00:18:54,633 --> 00:18:56,034

This is a you're solving a problem

 

660

00:18:56,034 --> 00:18:57,035

for somebody.

 

661

00:18:57,035 --> 00:18:57,769

And and,

 

662

00:18:57,769 --> 00:18:58,871

you know, it's a new product

 

663

00:18:58,871 --> 00:19:00,038

where some people may not even

 

664

00:19:00,038 --> 00:19:00,706

know about it yet.

 

665

00:19:02,174 --> 00:19:03,308

So this

 

666

00:19:03,308 --> 00:19:03,976

is something that

 

667

00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:05,010

I would definitely when you,

 

668

00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:06,712

you know, charge for this,

 

669

00:19:06,712 --> 00:19:07,679

get paid for this

 

670

00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:08,413

when we, you know,

 

671

00:19:08,413 --> 00:19:10,516

come out with products are hoping is that

 

672

00:19:11,116 --> 00:19:12,251

it makes your job easier

 

673

00:19:12,251 --> 00:19:14,453

and that you can make more money and,

 

674

00:19:14,453 --> 00:19:16,555

you know, elevates your your

 

675

00:19:17,256 --> 00:19:18,056

your abilities

 

676

00:19:18,056 --> 00:19:19,591

and what have you with your clients.

 

677

00:19:19,591 --> 00:19:20,526

And so

 

678

00:19:20,759 --> 00:19:22,661

I hope that people get that

 

679

00:19:22,661 --> 00:19:24,229

it comes across.

 

680

00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:26,431

Well, you know, the other thing,

 

681

00:19:26,431 --> 00:19:27,132

like you're saying,

 

682

00:19:27,132 --> 00:19:30,936

you've got to charge for this,

 

683

00:19:30,936 --> 00:19:32,471

especially where

 

684

00:19:32,471 --> 00:19:33,672

you're fulfilling the need

 

685

00:19:33,672 --> 00:19:35,207

that the customer is asking for.

 

686

00:19:35,207 --> 00:19:36,208

That's it.

 

687

00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:37,242

When the customer said,

 

688

00:19:37,242 --> 00:19:39,178

I don't want to see any red.

 

689

00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:41,113

Okay, no problem.

 

690

00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:43,215

Here's how we're going to do it.

 

691

00:19:43,215 --> 00:19:44,283

Now, if somebody goes, well,

 

692

00:19:44,283 --> 00:19:45,551

you know, can't you do a faster.

 

693

00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:46,685

Well, well, look,

 

694

00:19:46,685 --> 00:19:47,853

you know, there's only

 

695

00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:49,988

so much you can do chemicals. Yeah.

 

696

00:19:49,988 --> 00:19:52,157

You can only push chemicals so far.

 

697

00:19:52,357 --> 00:19:52,791

Yeah.

 

698

00:19:52,791 --> 00:19:55,494

You know, we have an answer, right?

 

699

00:19:55,494 --> 00:19:56,161

I'm sorry.

 

700

00:19:56,161 --> 00:19:58,430

It's not in your time frame, but

 

701

00:19:58,430 --> 00:20:00,465

we have an answer that works

 

702

00:20:00,465 --> 00:20:02,000

and it works well.

 

703

00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:02,834

Okay.

 

704

00:20:03,235 --> 00:20:05,437

It's the same thing I was saying.

 

705

00:20:05,437 --> 00:20:07,539

The same thing I said with acclimation

 

706

00:20:07,539 --> 00:20:08,740

and so many other things

 

707

00:20:08,740 --> 00:20:09,641

that are in our industry.

 

708

00:20:09,641 --> 00:20:11,376

It's not a time thing,

 

709

00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:12,477

it's a chemical thing.

 

710

00:20:12,477 --> 00:20:13,645

It's a chemical process thing

 

711

00:20:13,645 --> 00:20:14,746

in this case. Right.

 

712

00:20:14,746 --> 00:20:15,747

You have to give it

 

713

00:20:15,747 --> 00:20:16,582

time for these chemicals.

 

714

00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:18,650

I can't rush chemicals.

 

715

00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:19,818

I mean, they're going to do

 

716

00:20:19,818 --> 00:20:21,186

what they're going to do. So,

 

717

00:20:22,154 --> 00:20:22,754

you know, you

 

718

00:20:22,754 --> 00:20:23,855

have to allow yourself time

 

719

00:20:23,855 --> 00:20:25,791

and don't you set yourself up for failure

 

720

00:20:25,791 --> 00:20:26,291

by you

 

721

00:20:26,291 --> 00:20:27,960

trying to, you know, work

 

722

00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,094

with somebody else's schedule

 

723

00:20:29,094 --> 00:20:30,095

when it's not realistic.

 

724

00:20:30,095 --> 00:20:32,097

So I don't want to preach because.

 

725

00:20:32,097 --> 00:20:33,498

No, you got to preach that

 

726

00:20:33,498 --> 00:20:34,967

because that's,

 

727

00:20:34,967 --> 00:20:36,835

you know, environment is everything

 

728

00:20:36,835 --> 00:20:37,569

when you're doing

 

729

00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:39,004

finishes and state,

 

730

00:20:39,004 --> 00:20:41,506

our environment is everything.

 

731

00:20:41,506 --> 00:20:44,042

Now let's throw another thing on top of

 

732

00:20:44,042 --> 00:20:47,045

the environment is difference species.

 

733

00:20:47,045 --> 00:20:48,447

Different cuts of the wood, southern.

 

734

00:20:48,447 --> 00:20:49,681

No, northern, no.

 

735

00:20:49,681 --> 00:20:50,048

You know,

 

736

00:20:50,048 --> 00:20:51,950

all the things that we're talking about

 

737

00:20:51,950 --> 00:20:54,820

now, you're throwing another

 

738

00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:57,089

another process into the mix here.

 

739

00:20:57,089 --> 00:21:00,058

So yeah, I mean, time is

 

740

00:21:00,058 --> 00:21:02,127

you've got to take your time with this.

 

741

00:21:02,127 --> 00:21:03,762

You don't want to just think, Oh, I'm

 

742

00:21:03,762 --> 00:21:04,630

going to do the read out

 

743

00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:07,232

and I'll do two coats to read out today

 

744

00:21:07,299 --> 00:21:08,267

or two.

 

745

00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:10,335

Yeah, to co to read out or two.

 

746

00:21:10,335 --> 00:21:12,137

Applications are write out

 

747

00:21:12,137 --> 00:21:13,005

and then get a CO

 

748

00:21:13,005 --> 00:21:15,173

two stain on this afternoon.

 

749

00:21:15,173 --> 00:21:16,508

Not going to happen.

 

750

00:21:16,508 --> 00:21:19,011

And don't get me wrong, maybe you can,

 

751

00:21:19,011 --> 00:21:21,847

but why push all this stuff.

 

752

00:21:22,581 --> 00:21:23,682

When you think about it,

 

753

00:21:23,682 --> 00:21:24,850

you know, especially

 

754

00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:25,717

everybody would be able

 

755

00:21:25,717 --> 00:21:27,152

to love to double the amount of people

 

756

00:21:27,152 --> 00:21:28,720

they have working for them or whatever.

 

757

00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,689

But all we have is time.

 

758

00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:32,424

That's all we have to tell is time.

 

759

00:21:32,424 --> 00:21:33,225

That's what that's

 

760

00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:35,894

what we sell to the clients is our time.

 

761

00:21:36,395 --> 00:21:38,597

And so our time is valuable.

 

762

00:21:38,597 --> 00:21:40,299

If this step takes you

 

763

00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,067

same amount of time that you could do

 

764

00:21:42,067 --> 00:21:43,335

something else,

 

765

00:21:43,335 --> 00:21:44,202

you know what I mean in that

 

766

00:21:44,202 --> 00:21:45,671

like you could be installing or whatever

 

767

00:21:45,671 --> 00:21:47,306

you could do something else in that time

 

768

00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:48,573

may make sure you charge work

 

769

00:21:48,573 --> 00:21:50,042

because it is your time

 

770

00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:51,877

and your time is valuable.

 

771

00:21:51,877 --> 00:21:55,447

And when when Rob's friend stretched out,

 

772

00:21:55,447 --> 00:21:56,415

when Rob turned 60

 

773

00:21:56,415 --> 00:21:58,116

and he stretched out the tape measure

 

774

00:21:58,116 --> 00:21:59,418

and said, here,

 

775

00:21:59,418 --> 00:22:01,520

this is where you are right now,

 

776

00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,155

stretch it out another ten years.

 

777

00:22:03,155 --> 00:22:04,956

This is all you got left.

 

778

00:22:04,956 --> 00:22:06,258

This becomes more apparent

 

779

00:22:06,258 --> 00:22:08,160

as you get older, I promise you,

 

780

00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,628

so you don't get that back.

 

781

00:22:10,896 --> 00:22:11,196

A few

 

782

00:22:11,196 --> 00:22:13,065

minutes ago, Rob, you had

 

783

00:22:13,065 --> 00:22:15,067

you had an awkward lisp.

 

784

00:22:15,067 --> 00:22:15,834

Don't be embarrassed.

 

785

00:22:15,834 --> 00:22:16,535

I mean, let's face

 

786

00:22:16,535 --> 00:22:17,202

it was an awkward

 

787

00:22:17,202 --> 00:22:19,071

like a little lisp, right?

 

788

00:22:19,071 --> 00:22:21,273

Is there anything cuter than a little kid

 

789

00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,108

with a little lisp?

 

790

00:22:23,709 --> 00:22:24,543

You know what I mean?

 

791

00:22:24,543 --> 00:22:26,678

Is that the cutest little thing?

 

792

00:22:26,678 --> 00:22:29,548

My youngest grandson, Logan,

 

793

00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:33,385

has the funniest lisp you've ever heard.

 

794

00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:35,153

I'll send you a couple of videos.

 

795

00:22:35,153 --> 00:22:36,788

Yeah, it's a crackup.

 

796

00:22:36,788 --> 00:22:38,223

What's your favorite cereal?

 

797

00:22:38,223 --> 00:22:41,860

Blu ray, Rice Krispies.

 

798

00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,895

Um, kind of

 

799

00:22:43,895 --> 00:22:47,132

is hot chocolate fun.

 

800

00:22:47,132 --> 00:22:48,567

You know, that's when he was two

 

801

00:22:48,567 --> 00:22:50,435

and three years old.

 

802

00:22:50,435 --> 00:22:52,838

So now he's been working on his arts,

 

803

00:22:52,838 --> 00:22:53,872

have been working on his speech

 

804

00:22:53,872 --> 00:22:54,406

and everything,

 

805

00:22:54,406 --> 00:22:56,742

and he's starting to lose it.

 

806

00:22:56,775 --> 00:22:59,010

And Pauline and I are like, Yeah, can

 

807

00:22:59,878 --> 00:23:01,213

I kind of miss that?

 

808

00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:03,582

Yeah, no, I kind of lost that.

 

809

00:23:03,582 --> 00:23:04,816

Miss that.

 

810

00:23:04,816 --> 00:23:05,517

I have it

 

811

00:23:05,517 --> 00:23:07,686

because of the operation on my lip.

 

812

00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:10,222

The cancer took a chunk out of my lip

 

813

00:23:10,489 --> 00:23:13,191

and every once in a while I can.

 

814

00:23:13,925 --> 00:23:15,627

Maybe I maybe on YouTube

 

815

00:23:15,627 --> 00:23:17,662

we can like circle your lip

 

816

00:23:18,263 --> 00:23:20,766

and highlight it for the viewers.

 

817

00:23:20,899 --> 00:23:22,934

I could send you the right

 

818

00:23:22,934 --> 00:23:24,469

after the operation picture.

 

819

00:23:24,469 --> 00:23:27,005

That was pretty gross. Yeah, cool.

 

820

00:23:27,005 --> 00:23:29,074

When I was a kid living in Kentucky,

 

821

00:23:29,541 --> 00:23:31,476

my mom and I were in Lexington, Kentucky.

 

822

00:23:31,476 --> 00:23:32,778

We were lost.

 

823

00:23:32,778 --> 00:23:33,378

She was driving.

 

824

00:23:33,378 --> 00:23:34,045

She was frustrated.

 

825

00:23:34,045 --> 00:23:34,713

We couldn't

 

826

00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:37,215

find our way back home or whatever.

 

827

00:23:37,215 --> 00:23:39,985

So she pulled into the gas station

 

828

00:23:39,985 --> 00:23:41,753

like real quick, like a Richard Petty,

 

829

00:23:41,753 --> 00:23:44,256

like like like a, you know, a pit stop.

 

830

00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:44,890

Right.

 

831

00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:46,224

And she goes as this clown,

 

832

00:23:46,224 --> 00:23:50,095

we had to get to highway whatever it was.

 

833

00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:50,362

I can't.

 

834

00:23:50,362 --> 00:23:51,062

Remember what road.

 

835

00:23:51,062 --> 00:23:51,630

It was on.

 

836

00:23:51,630 --> 00:23:52,898

Anyhow, she ask us clown

 

837

00:23:52,898 --> 00:23:54,366

how to get so-and-so.

 

838

00:23:54,366 --> 00:23:55,967

So I roll the window down

 

839

00:23:55,967 --> 00:23:56,968

and the guy stands up,

 

840

00:23:56,968 --> 00:23:57,836

but he's coming to the car

 

841

00:23:57,836 --> 00:24:01,139

and I started to stutter real bad, right?

 

842

00:24:01,173 --> 00:24:03,241

So it was while there I used to stutter

 

843

00:24:03,241 --> 00:24:05,043

and I said the

 

844

00:24:07,412 --> 00:24:07,712

and he's

 

845

00:24:07,712 --> 00:24:09,247

looking at me like and he's like,

 

846

00:24:09,247 --> 00:24:10,816

Come on, son, get it out.

 

847

00:24:10,816 --> 00:24:11,516

You know what I mean?

 

848

00:24:11,516 --> 00:24:12,784

And he's like, He's got one

 

849

00:24:12,784 --> 00:24:13,452

hand on his knees

 

850

00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:15,020

goes like, Come on, son.

 

851

00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:17,923

And I got the were the

 

852

00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:20,358

mom goes, I shit.

 

853

00:24:20,358 --> 00:24:21,760

She drives off

 

854

00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,028

as he's driving off

 

855

00:24:23,028 --> 00:24:23,995

I'm leaning out the window.

 

856

00:24:23,995 --> 00:24:25,397

I'm still trying to get it out

 

857

00:24:25,397 --> 00:24:27,666

and the guy is walking along in the car

 

858

00:24:27,666 --> 00:24:30,368

for me to get it out.

 

859

00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:36,408

All right, so that's rid out.

 

860

00:24:36,408 --> 00:24:38,577

Let's talk about something else.

 

861

00:24:38,577 --> 00:24:40,712

Domo, because damn it,

 

862

00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:43,582

for oil based guys rob

 

863

00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:44,883

that I think this is

 

864

00:24:44,883 --> 00:24:47,619

finally the road out of oil base finish

 

865

00:24:48,753 --> 00:24:50,021

for so many reasons

 

866

00:24:50,021 --> 00:24:50,989

so you want to talk about

 

867

00:24:50,989 --> 00:24:51,690

this is a product

 

868

00:24:51,690 --> 00:24:53,258

we've had out for a while.

 

869

00:24:53,258 --> 00:24:54,292

Holy smokes, man,

 

870

00:24:56,127 --> 00:24:57,128

you go back in the early

 

871

00:24:57,128 --> 00:24:58,797

days of water based finish

 

872

00:24:58,797 --> 00:25:00,031

and for me

 

873

00:25:00,031 --> 00:25:01,933

it was probably 1981,

 

874

00:25:01,933 --> 00:25:04,269

1982, somewhere back in there.

 

875

00:25:04,269 --> 00:25:05,136

And

 

876

00:25:05,737 --> 00:25:07,506

the learning curve was tough, man.

 

877

00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:08,473

It was hard.

 

878

00:25:08,473 --> 00:25:09,708

It was so foreign to us.

 

879

00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:10,909

Is what are base finished now?

 

880

00:25:10,909 --> 00:25:11,576

If you gotten traded

 

881

00:25:11,576 --> 00:25:12,177

trade anywhere in the last

 

882

00:25:12,177 --> 00:25:13,612

20 years, whatever,

 

883

00:25:13,612 --> 00:25:15,747

it's it's, you know,

 

884

00:25:15,747 --> 00:25:17,916

very, very common now whatever

 

885

00:25:18,216 --> 00:25:19,317

the back end of that,

 

886

00:25:19,317 --> 00:25:20,886

back in the early days,

 

887

00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:23,355

it was a real foreign technology.

 

888

00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:23,989

And, you know,

 

889

00:25:23,989 --> 00:25:25,223

even even how you put it

 

890

00:25:25,223 --> 00:25:27,425

on, we were still chomping on lambs

 

891

00:25:27,425 --> 00:25:28,059

wool like we did

 

892

00:25:28,059 --> 00:25:30,262

with the old with poly and

 

893

00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:31,463

and we didn't know how to upgrade

 

894

00:25:31,463 --> 00:25:32,364

between culture.

 

895

00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:32,964

They would tell us

 

896

00:25:32,964 --> 00:25:34,266

when we get Brady with this

 

897

00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:35,233

and the Brady with that.

 

898

00:25:35,233 --> 00:25:36,468

And, and it was just

 

899

00:25:36,468 --> 00:25:37,636

a whole different deal for us.

 

900

00:25:37,636 --> 00:25:39,037

And there's a lot of misinformation

 

901

00:25:39,037 --> 00:25:39,471

or whatever.

 

902

00:25:40,472 --> 00:25:42,941

You kind of got past that.

 

903

00:25:42,941 --> 00:25:46,011

So oil based users today

 

904

00:25:46,011 --> 00:25:47,412

switching to Domo

 

905

00:25:47,412 --> 00:25:48,547

the price point on this

 

906

00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:50,115

product, number one,

 

907

00:25:50,115 --> 00:25:52,250

the ease of application on this product

 

908

00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:53,451

and being able

 

909

00:25:53,451 --> 00:25:54,786

to put two coats on in the day

 

910

00:25:54,786 --> 00:25:55,687

and the dry time

 

911

00:25:55,687 --> 00:25:57,822

or whatever with this product

 

912

00:25:57,822 --> 00:25:58,990

financially.

 

913

00:25:58,990 --> 00:26:00,959

I mean, I just think that this

 

914

00:26:00,959 --> 00:26:03,328

if there's ever a time to make a switch

 

915

00:26:03,328 --> 00:26:04,462

and if you're an oil based guy,

 

916

00:26:04,462 --> 00:26:06,064

you are never comfortable with water,

 

917

00:26:06,064 --> 00:26:08,500

whatever this is the product man

 

918

00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:10,235

and you can talk to

 

919

00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:11,736

someone who's use this product.

 

920

00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:12,337

There's doesn't say

 

921

00:26:12,337 --> 00:26:13,838

it's easy to work with

 

922

00:26:13,838 --> 00:26:14,973

so if you want to talk about Domo

 

923

00:26:14,973 --> 00:26:15,974

for a little bit.

 

924

00:26:17,108 --> 00:26:19,778

Yeah I guess I have no choice.

 

925

00:26:19,945 --> 00:26:21,012

I can't say. No.

 

926

00:26:21,012 --> 00:26:23,148

It kind of puts you on the spot, too.

 

927

00:26:23,148 --> 00:26:24,549

Yeah. Do you want to talk about.

 

928

00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:26,251

Well, I guess we have to

 

929

00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:30,789

in some markets.

 

930

00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:31,990

And of course,

 

931

00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:32,791

one of the big things

 

932

00:26:32,791 --> 00:26:34,626

that we always had about

 

933

00:26:34,626 --> 00:26:36,695

switching guys over

 

934

00:26:36,695 --> 00:26:39,230

from oil to water was price.

 

935

00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:40,265

Right?

 

936

00:26:40,498 --> 00:26:41,600

People were looking at the price

 

937

00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,534

of a gallon of each.

 

938

00:26:42,534 --> 00:26:45,103

They weren't taking into consideration

 

939

00:26:45,103 --> 00:26:47,706

hot coding time savings with hop coding

 

940

00:26:47,706 --> 00:26:49,307

and not having to bath and vac

 

941

00:26:49,307 --> 00:26:50,909

and prep floors and everything

 

942

00:26:50,909 --> 00:26:51,676

where you could just

 

943

00:26:51,676 --> 00:26:55,513

go, well, now in some markets out there,

 

944

00:26:55,513 --> 00:26:57,015

you know, the 350 markets

 

945

00:26:57,015 --> 00:26:59,985

or the 275 market and everything,

 

946

00:26:59,985 --> 00:27:01,987

this is cheaper than polyurethane.

 

947

00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:06,091

Yeah, because it's also sold in fives.

 

948

00:27:06,524 --> 00:27:07,559

That's what I want. Yeah.

 

949

00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:09,361

It's ones and fives.

 

950

00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:11,363

So now, you know,

 

951

00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:12,964

for the guys who were like, jeez,

 

952

00:27:12,964 --> 00:27:15,100

you know, I'd love to switch, but

 

953

00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:17,302

the price is yeah, price is no good.

 

954

00:27:17,402 --> 00:27:18,103

Well,

 

955

00:27:18,169 --> 00:27:19,638

now you have a better product

 

956

00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:20,672

than oil base

 

957

00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:21,973

as far as

 

958

00:27:22,173 --> 00:27:24,909

wear and tear, as far as durability.

 

959

00:27:25,777 --> 00:27:28,146

And you've got the price point to it.

 

960

00:27:28,179 --> 00:27:30,415

Yeah, it's less expensive.

 

961

00:27:30,415 --> 00:27:32,550

Now let's start lumping in the hot coding

 

962

00:27:33,251 --> 00:27:34,719

where you can't hack it with oil.

 

963

00:27:34,719 --> 00:27:36,221

Let's let's talk about that.

 

964

00:27:36,221 --> 00:27:38,256

Let's talk about extended dry

 

965

00:27:38,256 --> 00:27:38,990

times of oil

 

966

00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:40,659

that you do not have to worry

 

967

00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:42,260

about with water base.

 

968

00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:44,362

You know, all of a sudden,

 

969

00:27:44,362 --> 00:27:45,897

if you haven't taken a look at water

 

970

00:27:45,897 --> 00:27:46,731

based it,

 

971

00:27:46,731 --> 00:27:48,166

it's time to take another look at

 

972

00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:49,067

water base because

 

973

00:27:50,635 --> 00:27:50,969

like I

 

974

00:27:50,969 --> 00:27:51,603

said, now

 

975

00:27:51,603 --> 00:27:51,970

we're giving

 

976

00:27:51,970 --> 00:27:54,372

you the gallon prices there and

 

977

00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:56,508

you get all the benefits

 

978

00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:57,575

that I was just talking about.

 

979

00:27:57,575 --> 00:28:00,311

So, I mean, it's a money savings.

 

980

00:28:00,578 --> 00:28:03,281

You're giving yourself a better product.

 

981

00:28:03,281 --> 00:28:04,015

But the other thing

 

982

00:28:04,015 --> 00:28:04,416

is, too,

 

983

00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:08,019

especially now with so many colors,

 

984

00:28:08,053 --> 00:28:10,388

everything is colors out there

 

985

00:28:10,388 --> 00:28:11,690

and people looking for,

 

986

00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,324

even if it's natural,

 

987

00:28:13,324 --> 00:28:16,127

natural standard for look with nothing,

 

988

00:28:17,796 --> 00:28:19,030

domo is the way to go

 

989

00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:21,066

because it is a crystal clear product

 

990

00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:23,668

where it doesn't have,

 

991

00:28:23,668 --> 00:28:23,968

you know,

 

992

00:28:23,968 --> 00:28:25,236

some of the finishes out there

 

993

00:28:25,236 --> 00:28:27,272

have maybe it's

 

994

00:28:27,272 --> 00:28:28,039

it's not crystal

 

995

00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:28,373

clear it's

 

996

00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:30,442

got a little bit of an eggshell to it.

 

997

00:28:30,442 --> 00:28:31,309

Not this stuff it's

 

998

00:28:31,309 --> 00:28:33,011

this stuff is crystal clear.

 

999

00:28:33,011 --> 00:28:33,678

Yeah.

 

1000

00:28:34,813 --> 00:28:35,447

I mean,

 

1001

00:28:35,447 --> 00:28:37,816

it won't get any better than this.

 

1002

00:28:37,816 --> 00:28:39,417

I mean, there will never be something

 

1003

00:28:39,417 --> 00:28:39,784

that anything

 

1004

00:28:39,784 --> 00:28:40,752

is going to come along and go,

 

1005

00:28:40,752 --> 00:28:42,053

Oh, wow, this is easier.

 

1006

00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:43,455

This is less expensive.

 

1007

00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:45,557

This is this is this is it.

 

1008

00:28:45,557 --> 00:28:46,458

And once we put it in

 

1009

00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:47,992

a five gallon bales,

 

1010

00:28:47,992 --> 00:28:48,927

I think, man,

 

1011

00:28:48,927 --> 00:28:49,794

it really

 

1012

00:28:49,794 --> 00:28:51,996

is the answer for a lot of guys.

 

1013

00:28:51,996 --> 00:28:54,666

So I would really encourage guys.

 

1014

00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:55,667

And also

 

1015

00:28:55,667 --> 00:28:56,301

you think, well,

 

1016

00:28:56,301 --> 00:28:58,036

I don't want to try it out on on a

 

1017

00:28:58,036 --> 00:28:59,304

on a job first

 

1018

00:28:59,304 --> 00:29:01,740

and whether you T-bar to roll it

 

1019

00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:03,508

contact one of the Boehner reps with

 

1020

00:29:03,508 --> 00:29:04,909

and go to the RTC

 

1021

00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:06,811

go to one of our training centers

 

1022

00:29:06,811 --> 00:29:08,680

and use it on our panelists.

 

1023

00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,014

You know, screw up one of our flaws

 

1024

00:29:11,449 --> 00:29:12,016

but it is

 

1025

00:29:12,016 --> 00:29:13,718

going to be something that I think

 

1026

00:29:13,718 --> 00:29:15,186

is finally going to for guys

 

1027

00:29:15,186 --> 00:29:16,387

is just going to be like oil

 

1028

00:29:16,387 --> 00:29:18,723

based, will not make any sense anymore.

 

1029

00:29:19,324 --> 00:29:21,126

The same with the manual nailer.

 

1030

00:29:21,126 --> 00:29:21,993

Look, we sell oil.

 

1031

00:29:21,993 --> 00:29:23,962

I mean, we, you know, we gladly you know,

 

1032

00:29:23,962 --> 00:29:25,697

Boehner makes an oil based finish,

 

1033

00:29:25,697 --> 00:29:27,031

but I don't know, man,

 

1034

00:29:27,031 --> 00:29:29,734

I just don't see it anymore. Rob

 

1035

00:29:29,734 --> 00:29:30,502

Well, that's

 

1036

00:29:30,502 --> 00:29:32,570

what the funny part about Boehner is.

 

1037

00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:33,705

Everybody,

 

1038

00:29:34,005 --> 00:29:35,540

almost everybody thinks of Bowen

 

1039

00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:37,175

as you know well, they're a water

 

1040

00:29:37,175 --> 00:29:38,476

based company

 

1041

00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:40,578

with what we doing sport with oil.

 

1042

00:29:40,578 --> 00:29:42,647

We're we're one of the largest

 

1043

00:29:42,647 --> 00:29:44,816

oil manufacturers in the world

 

1044

00:29:44,816 --> 00:29:46,718

because of what we have going on

 

1045

00:29:46,718 --> 00:29:47,952

in the sport business.

 

1046

00:29:47,952 --> 00:29:48,753

How much,

 

1047

00:29:48,887 --> 00:29:49,254

Holly

 

1048

00:29:49,254 --> 00:29:51,623

So we know how to make a polyurethane.

 

1049

00:29:51,656 --> 00:29:54,359

We make an amazing polyurethane.

 

1050

00:29:55,059 --> 00:29:57,195

But when you look at the benefits of dome

 

1051

00:29:57,195 --> 00:29:59,330

all over polyurethane

 

1052

00:29:59,330 --> 00:30:02,033

durability, ease of application,

 

1053

00:30:03,001 --> 00:30:03,802

hot coating of

 

1054

00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:05,737

capabilities to coating the day,

 

1055

00:30:05,737 --> 00:30:07,639

I mean, you just start adding it all up.

 

1056

00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:08,673

You really got to be

 

1057

00:30:08,673 --> 00:30:10,341

thinking to yourself, all right, really?

 

1058

00:30:10,341 --> 00:30:11,476

Why am I.

 

1059

00:30:11,743 --> 00:30:12,477

Yeah, it

 

1060

00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:13,545

maybe it's definitely time

 

1061

00:30:13,545 --> 00:30:15,413

to make the switch out of poly.

 

1062

00:30:15,413 --> 00:30:17,515

Yeah. Now, I couldn't agree more.

 

1063

00:30:17,515 --> 00:30:19,818

I mean, we checked the final box,

 

1064

00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:20,985

you know, the final box

 

1065

00:30:20,985 --> 00:30:23,521

was the actual price per gallon.

 

1066

00:30:23,855 --> 00:30:24,556

Yeah.

 

1067

00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:25,256

You know,

 

1068

00:30:25,256 --> 00:30:27,458

and as much as we would talk to everybody

 

1069

00:30:27,458 --> 00:30:28,059

about price

 

1070

00:30:28,059 --> 00:30:30,428

per square foot and labor issue,

 

1071

00:30:30,428 --> 00:30:31,563

you remember,

 

1072

00:30:31,663 --> 00:30:32,997

you know, we both came from that

 

1073

00:30:32,997 --> 00:30:33,998

same world, right?

 

1074

00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:36,167

We were trying to turn people over

 

1075

00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:37,135

into the water.

 

1076

00:30:37,135 --> 00:30:39,370

And the biggest

 

1077

00:30:39,370 --> 00:30:40,238

the biggest box

 

1078

00:30:40,238 --> 00:30:41,005

we could never check

 

1079

00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:42,040

was the price per gallon.

 

1080

00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,509

Well, now we've done it. For some people.

 

1081

00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:46,444

It's the third rail in the conversation,

 

1082

00:30:46,444 --> 00:30:46,811

you know, as

 

1083

00:30:46,811 --> 00:30:48,780

soon as you touch that amount,

 

1084

00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:50,315

because that is just cost,

 

1085

00:30:50,315 --> 00:30:51,249

cost, class cost,

 

1086

00:30:51,249 --> 00:30:52,317

cost, that doesn't matter.

 

1087

00:30:52,317 --> 00:30:53,985

It just is just costs.

 

1088

00:30:53,985 --> 00:30:55,687

And finally, when you look at the

 

1089

00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:56,421

what this is,

 

1090

00:30:56,421 --> 00:30:58,189

especially, like I said in the fives,

 

1091

00:30:58,189 --> 00:30:59,257

you don't have to buy in the face.

 

1092

00:30:59,257 --> 00:31:01,326

But I mean, I mean, to me it makes sense.

 

1093

00:31:01,326 --> 00:31:03,628

So and then like you said,

 

1094

00:31:04,662 --> 00:31:05,630

2000 square feet

 

1095

00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:07,866

not having to break out the buffer

 

1096

00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:08,867

and the vacuum.

 

1097

00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:10,268

I don't even really care about the buffer

 

1098

00:31:10,268 --> 00:31:11,836

for break between cars.

 

1099

00:31:11,836 --> 00:31:13,404

If you ask me if I could eliminate

 

1100

00:31:13,404 --> 00:31:14,639

one step

 

1101

00:31:14,639 --> 00:31:16,374

in the whole entire process,

 

1102

00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:17,408

what would that one step be?

 

1103

00:31:17,408 --> 00:31:19,210

It for me, it's vacuuming.

 

1104

00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:19,777

I mean,

 

1105

00:31:19,777 --> 00:31:20,545

we vacuum

 

1106

00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:22,113

in vacuum and vacuum in vacuum

 

1107

00:31:22,113 --> 00:31:23,915

intact, intact, intact.

 

1108

00:31:23,915 --> 00:31:27,118

So to be able to put a coat on,

 

1109

00:31:27,118 --> 00:31:28,686

not go out there in a braid,

 

1110

00:31:28,686 --> 00:31:30,588

the polyurethane in vacuum and tank it,

 

1111

00:31:30,588 --> 00:31:31,623

whatever, before we put the

 

1112

00:31:31,623 --> 00:31:33,992

no the coat on, just walk in the floor,

 

1113

00:31:34,492 --> 00:31:37,362

take out your applicator, start going

 

1114

00:31:37,495 --> 00:31:39,998

that hard coating is within 48 hours,

 

1115

00:31:39,998 --> 00:31:41,633

right? With almost the same.

 

1116

00:31:41,633 --> 00:31:42,267

Safety,

 

1117

00:31:42,267 --> 00:31:43,902

same as all our all of our water

 

1118

00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:44,869

based products. Right.

 

1119

00:31:44,869 --> 00:31:45,770

I mean, man, it's a

 

1120

00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:47,238

that's a time saver and aggravation

 

1121

00:31:47,238 --> 00:31:48,273

saver and breaking out,

 

1122

00:31:48,273 --> 00:31:49,841

open up the back of the van,

 

1123

00:31:49,841 --> 00:31:50,308

you know,

 

1124

00:31:50,308 --> 00:31:51,576

get the vacuum cleaner out,

 

1125

00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:52,176

look at the bag,

 

1126

00:31:52,176 --> 00:31:54,612

make sure the bags are out and the

 

1127

00:31:54,612 --> 00:31:56,414

the filters are clean and all that.

 

1128

00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:58,182

And do that process.

 

1129

00:31:58,182 --> 00:31:59,851

If I could skip that alone,

 

1130

00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:01,753

never mind the cost of whatever

 

1131

00:32:01,753 --> 00:32:03,187

that to me it's a huge deal.

 

1132

00:32:03,187 --> 00:32:05,256

So nice build to this product.

 

1133

00:32:05,256 --> 00:32:07,558

You weren't a you weren't a fan of the.

 

1134

00:32:07,558 --> 00:32:08,927

I mean, it's like

 

1135

00:32:10,461 --> 00:32:11,496

I feel like a vacuum

 

1136

00:32:11,496 --> 00:32:12,897

so much of my life

 

1137

00:32:12,897 --> 00:32:15,366

and we spend so much time vacuum on jobs.

 

1138

00:32:15,366 --> 00:32:17,135

If I could eliminate one thing

 

1139

00:32:17,135 --> 00:32:18,903

hundred a percentage vacuuming.

 

1140

00:32:18,903 --> 00:32:20,638

Each German

 

1141

00:32:20,738 --> 00:32:23,041

greatest black guy in the world.

 

1142

00:32:23,041 --> 00:32:24,208

That's important.

 

1143

00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:26,778

Nobody was better than Pete German.

 

1144

00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:29,047

No. And he does exist.

 

1145

00:32:29,047 --> 00:32:30,848

Okay. I know people out there.

 

1146

00:32:30,848 --> 00:32:33,184

He doesn't exist. He exists.

 

1147

00:32:33,184 --> 00:32:34,819

But especially on the

 

1148

00:32:34,819 --> 00:32:37,388

the back behind before the final coat

 

1149

00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:40,892

used to call that super clean back day.

 

1150

00:32:40,892 --> 00:32:43,027

Tell me, just get out of here.

 

1151

00:32:43,027 --> 00:32:43,761

Yeah.

 

1152

00:32:44,128 --> 00:32:45,830

Know I don't even want you around.

 

1153

00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:47,699

And he backed everything.

 

1154

00:32:47,699 --> 00:32:50,301

Fan blades window is super

 

1155

00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:52,537

clean back day one when he said that

 

1156

00:32:53,604 --> 00:32:55,239

just stay out of his way.

 

1157

00:32:55,239 --> 00:32:56,841

When you got day guy on the job,

 

1158

00:32:56,841 --> 00:32:58,343

you will never live up to his standards.

 

1159

00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:00,745

Never.

 

1160

00:33:01,546 --> 00:33:03,982

That man has mastered

 

1161

00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:05,550

the vacuum.

 

1162

00:33:05,616 --> 00:33:07,218

I mean, that's it, man.

 

1163

00:33:07,218 --> 00:33:09,487

And that skill set,

 

1164

00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:10,989

people think you have to be so talented

 

1165

00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,291

in this world to get ahead.

 

1166

00:33:13,291 --> 00:33:15,259

And it's really

 

1167

00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:16,961

all the basic skills are there.

 

1168

00:33:16,961 --> 00:33:17,996

Hustle,

 

1169

00:33:18,096 --> 00:33:19,130

show up every day, work

 

1170

00:33:19,130 --> 00:33:20,732

your butt off, be polite,

 

1171

00:33:20,732 --> 00:33:22,567

be nice, whatever you know, do that.

 

1172

00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:23,901

Do these things

 

1173

00:33:23,901 --> 00:33:27,038

and you can vacuum or you could vacuum.

 

1174

00:33:27,271 --> 00:33:28,573

And when you got a guy like that,

 

1175

00:33:28,573 --> 00:33:29,640

like I say, you will never

 

1176

00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,075

because if you vacuum instead of him

 

1177

00:33:31,075 --> 00:33:32,443

that day, he's going to double

 

1178

00:33:32,443 --> 00:33:33,511

check everything do anyhow.

 

1179

00:33:33,511 --> 00:33:34,178

He's going to find them.

 

1180

00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:35,246

He don't like it.

 

1181

00:33:35,246 --> 00:33:36,080

He's going to go, forget it.

 

1182

00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,382

I'm vacuuming the whole thing over.

 

1183

00:33:37,382 --> 00:33:38,616

Get out of here.

 

1184

00:33:38,649 --> 00:33:40,218

So you might as I say this,

 

1185

00:33:40,218 --> 00:33:41,886

when you got a good horse,

 

1186

00:33:41,886 --> 00:33:43,354

you let that horse ride,

 

1187

00:33:43,354 --> 00:33:45,123

you get out of his way.

 

1188

00:33:45,123 --> 00:33:46,357

My brother Doug,

 

1189

00:33:46,357 --> 00:33:48,493

when it came to running a Kevin on nailer

 

1190

00:33:48,493 --> 00:33:50,194

when it came to do certain things,

 

1191

00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:51,195

just let him do it

 

1192

00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:51,963

because you're not going

 

1193

00:33:51,963 --> 00:33:52,930

to live up to the standards

 

1194

00:33:52,930 --> 00:33:53,898

and it doesn't make any

 

1195

00:33:53,898 --> 00:33:55,533

you just let him let him do his thing.

 

1196

00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:57,668

You're not going to be better than him

 

1197

00:33:57,668 --> 00:33:59,337

and you don't have the patience with him.

 

1198

00:33:59,337 --> 00:34:00,638

Let him do. That's what he does.

 

1199

00:34:00,638 --> 00:34:01,372

Well, he's doing that.

 

1200

00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:02,807

You do something else.

 

1201

00:34:02,807 --> 00:34:03,608

All right?

 

1202

00:34:03,941 --> 00:34:04,942

No, you know what?

 

1203

00:34:04,942 --> 00:34:06,144

And even

 

1204

00:34:06,144 --> 00:34:08,646

just saying that out loud now about

 

1205

00:34:08,646 --> 00:34:09,847

and I've always mentioned that

 

1206

00:34:09,847 --> 00:34:11,849

and some people think that's a joke.

 

1207

00:34:11,849 --> 00:34:13,418

I oh, Pete was the best backer in

 

1208

00:34:13,418 --> 00:34:15,420

the world. No big event but

 

1209

00:34:16,988 --> 00:34:18,956

talking that out.

 

1210

00:34:19,057 --> 00:34:21,926

What did that produce for us

 

1211

00:34:22,093 --> 00:34:24,328

that produced flawless final coats?

 

1212

00:34:24,362 --> 00:34:25,096

Mm hmm.

 

1213

00:34:25,463 --> 00:34:26,697

Every time,

 

1214

00:34:26,697 --> 00:34:29,434

because he was such a maniac

 

1215

00:34:29,434 --> 00:34:30,902

about getting everything right

 

1216

00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:33,137

and there wasn't a speck of dust anywhere

 

1217

00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:35,473

when we laid that final coat.

 

1218

00:34:35,473 --> 00:34:37,775

So, you know, as much as you

 

1219

00:34:38,376 --> 00:34:40,478

and I never thought of it that way

 

1220

00:34:40,478 --> 00:34:42,280

when I would back, just like you said.

 

1221

00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,515

Oh, my God, horseback are in the world.

 

1222

00:34:44,515 --> 00:34:46,217

Yeah, don't worry about it.

 

1223

00:34:46,217 --> 00:34:48,286

Floor guys are like unicorns,

 

1224

00:34:48,286 --> 00:34:50,655

you know, you go to a bar on a Friday

 

1225

00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:51,089

night, it's

 

1226

00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:51,789

crowded bar,

 

1227

00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:52,824

and the band up there playing

 

1228

00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:55,126

and you turn to the next guy, you go in.

 

1229

00:34:55,126 --> 00:34:57,662

Nobody vacuum like me, man.

 

1230

00:34:58,229 --> 00:35:00,364

Everybody else is like,

 

1231

00:35:00,364 --> 00:35:03,067

This guy's out of his mind, man.

 

1232

00:35:03,067 --> 00:35:04,635

But if you happen to turn to another guy

 

1233

00:35:04,635 --> 00:35:06,337

and he's a floor guy, he's going to go

 

1234

00:35:06,337 --> 00:35:07,271

off, man.

 

1235

00:35:07,271 --> 00:35:09,307

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

 

1236

00:35:09,307 --> 00:35:11,175

That's. That's big, dude.

 

1237

00:35:11,175 --> 00:35:13,511

Yeah, I get it. Fist bump. Yeah,

 

1238

00:35:14,912 --> 00:35:16,147

that's respect.

 

1239

00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,516

Okay, so I wanted to talk about

 

1240

00:35:18,816 --> 00:35:21,119

I'm so high on the few red out jobs

 

1241

00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,520

I saw lately.

 

1242

00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,821

They would say it for say

 

1243

00:35:23,821 --> 00:35:26,124

that for another show and that's it.

 

1244

00:35:26,157 --> 00:35:26,524

Red Out.

 

1245

00:35:26,524 --> 00:35:27,658

I met Rob.

 

1246

00:35:27,658 --> 00:35:29,794

The future of RAW jobs I've seen lately

 

1247

00:35:30,495 --> 00:35:32,697

may have knocked me out, and

 

1248

00:35:34,031 --> 00:35:35,600

maybe we'll save it for another show.

 

1249

00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,901

Okay. Yeah.

 

1250

00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:38,102

This has been another episode

 

1251

00:35:38,102 --> 00:35:39,604

of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

1252

00:35:39,604 --> 00:35:47,745

Please stay tuned for another episode.