On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Coping with pressure

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob discuss ways that they cope with pressure. They also highlight some contractors that attended the NJ RTC Bona QUANTUM® FLOW launch, who answered how they cope with pressure. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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Hello and

 

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welcome to another episode

 

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of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne

 

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Highlander, director of sales

 

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for Bona Adhesives.

 

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And Robert Johnson from Bona Training.

 

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We're going to do a little floor

 

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talk today, so turn him Sanders off,

 

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take that edge

 

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or make sure you put that edge around

 

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the side.

 

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Put that scraper down.

 

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And let's talk

 

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a little bit about hardwood floors.

 

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We've had to change our opening

 

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a little bit

 

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because our producer says

 

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that we've been coming in on our openings

 

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too hot so that.

 

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Yeah.

 

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So now

 

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we sound like the two women

 

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on the Saturday Night Live skit

 

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we're doing that.

 

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The PBS.

 

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What was the name of that skit?

 

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You remember that skit? Now.

 

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Did you ever watch Saturday Night Live.

 

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From time to time?

 

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Oh, man, yeah.

 

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They did

 

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the Schweddy Balls.

 

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You really get it?

 

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They seen that on on YouTube?

 

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Yes. The Christmas balls.

 

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Yeah. Yeah.

 

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Not sure we can do that.

 

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Oh, man.

 

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What is the name of that?

 

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Oh, that's how they talk.

 

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They came in nice and easy,

 

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just like that.

 

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Although you and I had a discussion

 

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about buying a new truck

 

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that had the seats

 

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with the air conditioner

 

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that came through the seats. Yes.

 

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Probably can't really talk

 

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too much about.

 

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But if you haven't

 

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if you have never

 

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experienced a new vehicle that has

 

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air conditioning

 

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flowing through the seats, that's

 

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one of the greatest pleasures in life.

 

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That's good stuff.

 

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Okay.

 

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Hey,

 

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this episode is going to be pretty cool.

 

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We did some interviews.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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We had the big flow the big flow launch

 

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at the New Jersey RTC this week.

 

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So talk about the Who's

 

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Who wood flooring man.

 

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Everybody was there.

 

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Yeah, that was it was really cool.

 

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Really, really great day.

 

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And I appreciate Jeff

 

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Alfredo and Jean Vincent

 

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and Mike Overy and

 

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Rob Johnson.

 

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And that's why

 

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you threw my name in there.

 

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I appreciate. That.

 

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Yeah. Come coming down there.

 

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Yeah, I look out for you.

 

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Our episode today is going to be on on

 

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how to handle press pressure.

 

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You know, this industry,

 

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it comes with the territory.

 

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And I remember watching.

 

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I'm not I'm not a

 

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I'm not a golf guy at all.

 

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And I know you're not a golf, Barry Golf.

 

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Yeah, I do golf game.

 

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You remember

 

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Greg Norman

 

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when he had the most epic net

 

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meltdown of all time?

 

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Yeah, I think that was.

 

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I think that was 98.

 

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97, 96,

 

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96, 96.

 

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Yeah.

 

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What he absolutely had,

 

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I think what a five stroke lead

 

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going into it

 

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or maybe even more and then lost.

 

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I thought it was like eight.

 

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I mean, it was unbelievable.

 

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Everybody said

 

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going into

 

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the final day, I

 

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thought he had like a six or eight.

 

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I mean, it was

 

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I think it was more than five.

 

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I think he had he he actually had a six

 

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shot lead in his last

 

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lost by five strokes.

 

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And they say it's

 

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one of the biggest jokes of all time.

 

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And here's how bad it was

 

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when he when he finally lost his opponent

 

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was crying and apologized for winning.

 

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And when the presenter handed the trophy

 

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to the winner,

 

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he apologized

 

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and said he felt terrible for Norman

 

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and it's gone down

 

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is probably one of the biggest jokes

 

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of all time.

 

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And you can take we talk about joking.

 

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You're talking about pressure

 

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and learning to deal with pressure,

 

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especially in our industry.

 

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And as you said, Rob,

 

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we had some great interviews.

 

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Later on, we're going to play

 

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and I thought it was interesting

 

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what some of the older guys

 

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have been around a while,

 

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how they how they handle pressure today

 

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versus how they

 

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handle pressure years ago.

 

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But there's a

 

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you know,

 

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it's something that we've we've always

 

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how you handle pressure very well though

 

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probably better

 

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than anybody I've ever met. Actually.

 

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I feel no pressure ever.

 

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I let everybody else worry about that.

 

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Yeah, that's.

 

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I. I think

 

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you and I

 

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probably could have worked together

 

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pretty good

 

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because you can't have two

 

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guys on the job

 

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who are crazy with pressure.

 

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You can't have two guys that are hot,

 

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right?

 

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Yeah. Yeah.

 

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Well, I'm got to be one of those.

 

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Got to be the ground.

 

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Yeah, you.

 

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Now, the other thing, though.

 

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Pete and I

 

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are a lot of like

 

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as far as pressure goes.

 

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So

 

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I don't know,

 

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I don't think we really ever had

 

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any because,

 

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I mean, you think I'm calm and cool.

 

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Sherman's even, you know, he takes it

 

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to a different level.

 

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But working with

 

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you, working with my son now,

 

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I think you two are like

 

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pressure cookers.

 

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Probably I will.

 

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I'll tell you how I deal

 

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with pressure when, like,

 

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things get really, really

 

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the pressure gets gets ramped up.

 

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I'll tell you how I deal with it.

 

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And for me, is is I

 

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you got to live in the moment.

 

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If you start thinking on a on a job

 

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of all the things that can go wrong,

 

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you know, all the negative

 

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what ifs, if,

 

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you know, if this doesn't go right

 

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or if it doesn't get paid

 

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or she doesn't like the color,

 

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we can't meet the schedule or whatever.

 

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If you start letting those things

 

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get in your head, then

 

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it just makes your life miserable.

 

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And I had a mantra for me,

 

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which was one room at a time,

 

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and it really worked for me.

 

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It really helped

 

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take the pressure off

 

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because as if I'm on a 4000

 

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square foot job or whatever,

 

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that's a problem.

 

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If the whole job is one room, 4000

 

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square feet.

 

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But if it was broken up,

 

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like if I'm today, I'm

 

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working in the living room right

 

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now, today, right

 

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now, this moment to work the living room.

 

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Then that's all I care about

 

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is that living room.

 

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I don't care about nothing else.

 

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I just focus on one thing

 

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and that's helped me with that mantra

 

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of one room at a time is helped me

 

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and then

 

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stay in the moment

 

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and not getting into the whatever type

 

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of conversations in your head,

 

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staying in the present

 

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and not worried

 

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about the ultimate success

 

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or failure of the job.

 

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So

 

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now I thought you handled pressure

 

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a different way,

 

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you know,

 

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like opening up door, throwing tea bars

 

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across the floor.

 

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That to. Throw.

 

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Didn't you throw something in the water

 

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one time or something?

 

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But I do that in the moment,

 

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you know what I mean?

 

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I that's the that's in the moment thing.

 

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That's the release.

 

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Yes.

 

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That's

 

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that's the release of the pressure.

 

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Yes. You've dealt with it.

 

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So you get hold on to it. And then

 

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what it.

 

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What I like to do is

 

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spread the pressure throughout everybody

 

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so they all feel the pressure.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Yeah, I you.

 

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Why should you just be choking on that.

 

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I cause.

 

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Everybody else.

 

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Yes, I call it a sense of urgency.

 

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So changes the you know what I mean?

 

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It changes the whole.

 

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It's not pressure, guys.

 

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A sense of urgency.

 

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You need feel the sense of urgency.

 

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Right.

 

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But but you know something?

 

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I'm joking around about that

 

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a little bit.

 

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But I'll tell you something that

 

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there's a little trick you can do.

 

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And for instance,

 

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when when

 

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by just changing a single word around,

 

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you know,

 

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instead of saying, like, I'm nervous

 

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about this, for instance,

 

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when I used to do public speaking, well,

 

268

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I still do public speaking.

 

269

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But in the early days,

 

270

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when I get nervous about it,

 

271

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I learn if you change the word

 

272

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nervous, too excited,

 

273

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it just does something in your head

 

274

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that makes it a whole different vibe.

 

275

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You're not nervous,

 

276

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you're excited about it.

 

277

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Like I don't like the word to use.

 

278

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I don't like the word problem.

 

279

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Like this is this is a big problem

 

280

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if you change that for a challenge.

 

281

00:08:30,209 --> 00:08:31,410

I've done that

 

282

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for probably last 15 years of my life.

 

283

00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:35,281

Just just change some words around.

 

284

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It's a different mindset.

 

285

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And it absolutely does help.

 

286

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I think it does help.

 

287

00:08:39,719 --> 00:08:41,521

I don't use the word problem anymore.

 

288

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I use the word issue.

 

289

00:08:44,223 --> 00:08:46,292

Yeah, yeah. Issue issue.

 

290

00:08:46,292 --> 00:08:48,160

Just sounds better to me. Yeah.

 

291

00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,095

So your problem.

 

292

00:08:49,095 --> 00:08:50,763

Problem is sounds pretty negative.

 

293

00:08:50,763 --> 00:08:51,664

Issues are issues

 

294

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and you're always going to deal

 

295

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with issues.

 

296

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Problem problems isn't problem

 

297

00:08:55,501 --> 00:08:56,302

sounds negative

 

298

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and challenges can be overcome.

 

299

00:08:59,238 --> 00:09:02,275

Yeah, like that's like the tea bar.

 

300

00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:04,710

I broke it over my easily breaking tea.

 

301

00:09:04,710 --> 00:09:06,379

Borrow here over your knee

 

302

00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:07,113

if you put it off.

 

303

00:09:07,113 --> 00:09:08,514

Like to see a break, a big foot

 

304

00:09:08,514 --> 00:09:10,950

over your knee. That would be.

 

305

00:09:10,950 --> 00:09:12,985

Yeah that's impressive. That's not.

 

306

00:09:12,985 --> 00:09:13,319

I don't know.

 

307

00:09:13,319 --> 00:09:15,488

I've got a titanium knee now. I think so.

 

308

00:09:15,721 --> 00:09:19,825

Oh, I got a chance.

 

309

00:09:19,825 --> 00:09:21,928

Oh, it was funny.

 

310

00:09:21,928 --> 00:09:23,095

It's funny. We're doing that.

 

311

00:09:24,196 --> 00:09:25,598

The next two issues.

 

312

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The next two issues are doing

 

313

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the next two shows are doing

 

314

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one is on pressure

 

315

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and the other one is on vacations.

 

316

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And this story

 

317

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has a little of both of it.

 

318

00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:37,310

So I was on vacation last week and Bond

 

319

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found out, oh, oh, you were on vacation.

 

320

00:09:40,146 --> 00:09:42,481

And he goes, Man, I got he goes, just

 

321

00:09:42,615 --> 00:09:45,251

I need help. Is that first cup? Okay.

 

322

00:09:45,351 --> 00:09:48,387

The beauty barn is a huge was like

 

323

00:09:48,654 --> 00:09:51,157

1600 foot

 

324

00:09:51,490 --> 00:09:53,092

tons of rooms.

 

325

00:09:53,092 --> 00:09:53,826

It was one of those

 

326

00:09:53,826 --> 00:09:54,961

it was at four bedrooms,

 

327

00:09:54,961 --> 00:09:56,896

but every bedroom had a little hallway

 

328

00:09:56,896 --> 00:09:57,496

to it all.

 

329

00:09:57,496 --> 00:09:59,732

So you know, so

 

330

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and then was a big,

 

331

00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,168

great room and kitchen.

 

332

00:10:02,168 --> 00:10:03,235

Everybody knows that.

 

333

00:10:03,235 --> 00:10:04,136

I'm not telling him

 

334

00:10:04,136 --> 00:10:06,806

anything that anybody doesn't know.

 

335

00:10:07,139 --> 00:10:08,975

But we've been in drought conditions

 

336

00:10:08,975 --> 00:10:10,242

around here.

 

337

00:10:10,476 --> 00:10:12,812

You know, we have not had a lot of rain.

 

338

00:10:12,812 --> 00:10:14,847

And this is supposed to be the

 

339

00:10:14,847 --> 00:10:15,815

the wet season.

 

340

00:10:15,815 --> 00:10:16,983

You know, this is one

 

341

00:10:16,983 --> 00:10:18,684

coating supposed to get a little easier.

 

342

00:10:18,684 --> 00:10:20,853

You know, floors have been dry all winter

 

343

00:10:20,853 --> 00:10:21,654

anyways.

 

344

00:10:23,222 --> 00:10:25,458

I was feeling some pressure

 

345

00:10:25,458 --> 00:10:26,759

and I was definitely feeling

 

346

00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:30,096

pressure that that sealer was setting up.

 

347

00:10:30,096 --> 00:10:33,633

I mean, there was not a lot of

 

348

00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:35,468

a lot of time.

 

349

00:10:35,468 --> 00:10:36,135

And, you know,

 

350

00:10:36,135 --> 00:10:38,337

we've all we've all had those jobs

 

351

00:10:38,904 --> 00:10:41,374

where, man, this is just

 

352

00:10:41,374 --> 00:10:44,543

so one of the ways that we started

 

353

00:10:44,543 --> 00:10:48,347

dealing with the pressure was really set

 

354

00:10:48,347 --> 00:10:50,883

men on preparation

 

355

00:10:51,550 --> 00:10:54,286

and what was our next step?

 

356

00:10:54,286 --> 00:10:55,321

What was the next step?

 

357

00:10:55,321 --> 00:10:57,423

Having that all planned out

 

358

00:10:58,024 --> 00:11:00,993

and a lot of the planning took away

 

359

00:11:01,494 --> 00:11:03,663

from what could have been, you know,

 

360

00:11:04,030 --> 00:11:07,133

a real bed pressure cooker.

 

361

00:11:07,133 --> 00:11:08,834

People can always tell to

 

362

00:11:08,834 --> 00:11:10,403

when I get I'm starting

 

363

00:11:10,403 --> 00:11:12,405

to feel some pressure.

 

364

00:11:12,405 --> 00:11:14,540

As I go silent,

 

365

00:11:15,274 --> 00:11:17,043

I go in silent mode where people like

 

366

00:11:17,043 --> 00:11:19,111

you talk, yep, yep, yep,

 

367

00:11:20,012 --> 00:11:22,748

don't want to talk because the

 

368

00:11:22,748 --> 00:11:24,417

so that is one of the ways

 

369

00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:25,785

that I will deal with pressure

 

370

00:11:25,785 --> 00:11:27,420

rather than talking. It out. Just

 

371

00:11:29,288 --> 00:11:31,857

I go stone silent.

 

372

00:11:31,857 --> 00:11:33,426

Mm hmm.

 

373

00:11:33,426 --> 00:11:34,527

The job came out.

 

374

00:11:34,527 --> 00:11:36,495

Job came out awesome.

 

375

00:11:36,495 --> 00:11:36,762

Nice.

 

376

00:11:36,762 --> 00:11:38,931

But, I mean, it was one of those likes

 

377

00:11:38,931 --> 00:11:41,400

where there is some built in desks and

 

378

00:11:42,001 --> 00:11:43,035

lots of toe kicks

 

379

00:11:43,035 --> 00:11:44,470

and little pantries and everything.

 

380

00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:45,738

And we did more pre

 

381

00:11:45,738 --> 00:11:48,641

coding of different sections.

 

382

00:11:48,641 --> 00:11:50,342

You know, it was actually

 

383

00:11:50,342 --> 00:11:51,977

we started laughing about it like,

 

384

00:11:51,977 --> 00:11:52,678

oh my God,

 

385

00:11:52,678 --> 00:11:53,145

I know

 

386

00:11:53,145 --> 00:11:54,080

this is crazy,

 

387

00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,782

but it all turned out really good.

 

388

00:11:56,782 --> 00:11:59,552

Beautiful.

 

389

00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:00,119

You know, as

 

390

00:12:00,119 --> 00:12:00,820

you said something

 

391

00:12:00,820 --> 00:12:01,554

there, that to me

 

392

00:12:01,554 --> 00:12:04,356

is how I also deal with stress is that I,

 

393

00:12:04,590 --> 00:12:07,393

I find that I overprepare

 

394

00:12:07,393 --> 00:12:08,794

because I don't want to have to deal

 

395

00:12:08,794 --> 00:12:09,195

with stress.

 

396

00:12:09,195 --> 00:12:10,262

I'd rather overprepare

 

397

00:12:10,262 --> 00:12:11,831

and put the work in ahead of time

 

398

00:12:11,831 --> 00:12:13,766

and deal with the stress,

 

399

00:12:13,766 --> 00:12:15,134

you know, during the during the job

 

400

00:12:15,134 --> 00:12:15,968

or whatever I'm doing.

 

401

00:12:17,770 --> 00:12:19,004

And also, you

 

402

00:12:19,004 --> 00:12:20,773

kind of know what triggers you.

 

403

00:12:20,773 --> 00:12:21,841

You know what I mean?

 

404

00:12:21,841 --> 00:12:23,042

Like I,

 

405

00:12:23,042 --> 00:12:24,043

I hated doing stain

 

406

00:12:24,043 --> 00:12:25,177

samples towards the end.

 

407

00:12:25,177 --> 00:12:26,378

I've talked about that before.

 

408

00:12:26,378 --> 00:12:28,447

I didn't have the patience for it because

 

409

00:12:30,049 --> 00:12:31,917

that's not a technical thing.

 

410

00:12:31,917 --> 00:12:34,019

That's a that's a personality thing.

 

411

00:12:34,019 --> 00:12:35,387

That's that's,

 

412

00:12:35,788 --> 00:12:37,590

you know, that's subjective.

 

413

00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:40,626

So, yeah, my, my brothers would do that

 

414

00:12:40,626 --> 00:12:41,160

instead of me

 

415

00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,461

because I don't have time for

 

416

00:12:42,461 --> 00:12:44,163

for nonsense,

 

417

00:12:44,463 --> 00:12:46,031

you know, pick a color. Let's go.

 

418

00:12:46,031 --> 00:12:48,167

So I wasn't the guy to do that.

 

419

00:12:48,167 --> 00:12:49,969

But so

 

420

00:12:50,202 --> 00:12:52,238

finding what triggers you, I think, is,

 

421

00:12:52,705 --> 00:12:54,039

you know, knowing that ahead of time,

 

422

00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:55,374

I think helps.

 

423

00:12:55,374 --> 00:12:58,277

And and also, you know what?

 

424

00:12:58,277 --> 00:13:02,615

Embrace the stress.

 

425

00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:03,616

I've said it before,

 

426

00:13:03,616 --> 00:13:05,484

pressure is a privilege.

 

427

00:13:05,484 --> 00:13:08,354

And and I really do believe that,

 

428

00:13:08,354 --> 00:13:09,021

you know what I mean?

 

429

00:13:09,021 --> 00:13:11,891

And so there's somehow in your life,

 

430

00:13:12,291 --> 00:13:14,627

you've got to figure out how to deal with

 

431

00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:16,796

how to deal with this in a positive way.

 

432

00:13:17,296 --> 00:13:20,766

No, I've got friends, you see,

 

433

00:13:20,766 --> 00:13:21,667

and here's the thing

 

434

00:13:21,667 --> 00:13:22,968

that when I you see a man

 

435

00:13:22,968 --> 00:13:23,903

is 70 years old

 

436

00:13:23,903 --> 00:13:24,970

and 75 years old who's

 

437

00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:26,872

yelling and screaming at everybody.

 

438

00:13:26,872 --> 00:13:29,275

That's an idiot, because you've gone

 

439

00:13:29,275 --> 00:13:30,876

through your entire life

 

440

00:13:30,876 --> 00:13:32,344

and you haven't figured it out.

 

441

00:13:32,344 --> 00:13:33,612

Know what I mean?

 

442

00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:35,147

As I've gotten older, I don't get

 

443

00:13:35,147 --> 00:13:36,682

I don't express my opinion

 

444

00:13:36,682 --> 00:13:39,318

hardly any in any more to anybody

 

445

00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:41,020

else.

 

446

00:13:41,020 --> 00:13:43,088

You're a director. Outside of work.

 

447

00:13:43,589 --> 00:13:45,124

You're outside of work

 

448

00:13:45,124 --> 00:13:47,226

because I don't people

 

449

00:13:47,226 --> 00:13:49,028

cares what I think, you know what I mean?

 

450

00:13:49,028 --> 00:13:49,762

It doesn't matter.

 

451

00:13:49,762 --> 00:13:51,030

I don't have to

 

452

00:13:51,530 --> 00:13:52,498

give people my opinion

 

453

00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:54,600

or I know who cares.

 

454

00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,167

And I don't need

 

455

00:13:55,167 --> 00:13:57,937

to get an argument of of of the of the

 

456

00:13:59,338 --> 00:14:01,507

of the lowest form of argument or

 

457

00:14:01,507 --> 00:14:04,143

discussion is which is is opinion.

 

458

00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:05,611

You know what I mean?

 

459

00:14:06,345 --> 00:14:07,246

It doesn't matter.

 

460

00:14:07,246 --> 00:14:08,280

It's your opinion.

 

461

00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,615

It's my opinion.

 

462

00:14:09,615 --> 00:14:10,749

I don't

 

463

00:14:10,749 --> 00:14:12,651

I don't need to argue about that or even,

 

464

00:14:12,651 --> 00:14:14,820

you know, I don't care anymore.

 

465

00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,155

So that's kind of the

 

466

00:14:16,155 --> 00:14:17,389

what as you get

 

467

00:14:17,389 --> 00:14:18,490

older and we talk to

 

468

00:14:18,490 --> 00:14:19,625

some of these really great floor

 

469

00:14:19,625 --> 00:14:21,093

men today

 

470

00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,761

that we're going to have on the podcast

 

471

00:14:22,761 --> 00:14:23,896

we're going to play later today.

 

472

00:14:25,297 --> 00:14:25,831

Seems like

 

473

00:14:25,831 --> 00:14:26,298

they were kind

 

474

00:14:26,298 --> 00:14:27,666

of in the same vein

 

475

00:14:27,666 --> 00:14:28,500

as they've gotten older,

 

476

00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:30,102

they've gotten smarter about it.

 

477

00:14:30,102 --> 00:14:32,271

And so if you're younger and

 

478

00:14:32,905 --> 00:14:34,006

and doing flaws

 

479

00:14:34,006 --> 00:14:35,808

and the stress of the schedule

 

480

00:14:35,808 --> 00:14:36,942

and all these different things

 

481

00:14:36,942 --> 00:14:38,310

and every every job is

 

482

00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:40,212

and believe me, I felt the same way.

 

483

00:14:40,212 --> 00:14:40,880

I mean,

 

484

00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,550

people say, well, it's not it's not

 

485

00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:47,620

heart surgery, but it felt like it.

 

486

00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:48,454

You know what I mean?

 

487

00:14:48,454 --> 00:14:49,388

It felt like it to me.

 

488

00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:50,756

And sometimes I'd rather be.

 

489

00:14:50,756 --> 00:14:52,625

Yeah, yeah. Finish is dry and quick.

 

490

00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:54,660

I wish I was operating on somebody.

 

491

00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:55,160

Yeah, he's

 

492

00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,762

just going to die if it doesn't work.

 

493

00:14:56,762 --> 00:14:58,764

Yeah, but this is my floor.

 

494

00:14:58,764 --> 00:15:01,367

This is the floor. So.

 

495

00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,202

But I think you,

 

496

00:15:03,202 --> 00:15:04,536

for your own health sake,

 

497

00:15:04,536 --> 00:15:07,973

a figure for your healthy way to, to, to,

 

498

00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,175

to learn to deal with this.

 

499

00:15:10,175 --> 00:15:11,143

It's a coping skill,

 

500

00:15:11,143 --> 00:15:13,145

just like anything else is a skill.

 

501

00:15:13,145 --> 00:15:15,114

If you don't invest time into it

 

502

00:15:15,114 --> 00:15:16,282

or just kind of understand

 

503

00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:18,651

why you do things a certain way,

 

504

00:15:18,651 --> 00:15:19,385

it's good for you

 

505

00:15:19,385 --> 00:15:20,853

is good for your family, is good for

 

506

00:15:20,853 --> 00:15:21,720

your coworkers.

 

507

00:15:23,155 --> 00:15:25,391

Also, if you're a perfectionist

 

508

00:15:25,391 --> 00:15:26,859

and the problem is in this trade,

 

509

00:15:26,859 --> 00:15:27,393

Rob, is

 

510

00:15:27,393 --> 00:15:29,361

you almost have to be a perfectionist

 

511

00:15:29,361 --> 00:15:30,863

in this trade

 

512

00:15:31,397 --> 00:15:34,166

and it sets you up for

 

513

00:15:34,166 --> 00:15:35,301

pressure and stress.

 

514

00:15:35,301 --> 00:15:35,701

You know,

 

515

00:15:35,701 --> 00:15:36,936

you have to realize that

 

516

00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:38,270

every job is not going to be perfect.

 

517

00:15:38,270 --> 00:15:39,138

You have to accept

 

518

00:15:39,138 --> 00:15:41,307

some amount of mistakes

 

519

00:15:41,307 --> 00:15:43,208

and let some things go.

 

520

00:15:43,208 --> 00:15:44,810

And that is hard to do.

 

521

00:15:44,810 --> 00:15:46,612

So I think there's a.

 

522

00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:48,314

You know what I say in my classes,

 

523

00:15:48,314 --> 00:15:51,483

everybody knows not the rising boat thing

 

524

00:15:53,585 --> 00:15:55,921

chasing perfection.

 

525

00:15:55,921 --> 00:15:58,157

We will catch excellence.

 

526

00:15:58,157 --> 00:16:00,626

Yep, yep.

 

527

00:16:00,926 --> 00:16:03,062

And I'll tell you, working with my kid

 

528

00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:04,563

has definitely up my game

 

529

00:16:04,563 --> 00:16:05,197

because I'm like,

 

530

00:16:05,197 --> 00:16:07,533

Oh, he's not going to like this.

 

531

00:16:07,866 --> 00:16:09,168

He's a perfectionist

 

532

00:16:09,168 --> 00:16:11,337

that I don't know where it came from,

 

533

00:16:11,337 --> 00:16:15,307

but he is a perfection is so,

 

534

00:16:15,307 --> 00:16:17,142

you know, that job I was talking about

 

535

00:16:17,142 --> 00:16:18,310

or I was working with him

 

536

00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:19,178

and I said, Oh,

 

537

00:16:19,178 --> 00:16:21,380

my way of dealing with stress

 

538

00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:22,948

is I go silent.

 

539

00:16:22,948 --> 00:16:23,649

Mm hmm.

 

540

00:16:24,016 --> 00:16:25,050

Mm hmm.

 

541

00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:26,852

That's not how we started out

 

542

00:16:26,852 --> 00:16:27,720

the job, though,

 

543

00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,655

especially as it started to get tougher.

 

544

00:16:30,789 --> 00:16:31,123

We had

 

545

00:16:31,123 --> 00:16:31,724

stopped before

 

546

00:16:31,724 --> 00:16:32,191

we started

 

547

00:16:32,191 --> 00:16:34,560

the really the big main areas

 

548

00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,127

and everything.

 

549

00:16:35,127 --> 00:16:36,729

And there was a lot of communication

 

550

00:16:36,729 --> 00:16:39,031

between us, like I said,

 

551

00:16:39,031 --> 00:16:39,665

all right, here

 

552

00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:41,367

are the seven different areas

 

553

00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:43,702

we're going to do before.

 

554

00:16:43,702 --> 00:16:45,437

And he noodled it and he looked at me.

 

555

00:16:45,437 --> 00:16:47,072

He goes, Yeah, that's a good idea.

 

556

00:16:47,072 --> 00:16:47,406

Well,

 

557

00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:49,274

so there was

 

558

00:16:49,274 --> 00:16:51,310

it wasn't like I just didn't do anything.

 

559

00:16:51,310 --> 00:16:52,511

But he

 

560

00:16:52,711 --> 00:16:54,513

there was a lot of communication and

 

561

00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:55,748

and then once we got going,

 

562

00:16:55,748 --> 00:16:58,150

that's when I got silent.

 

563

00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:59,351

Yeah, it was kind of fun

 

564

00:16:59,351 --> 00:17:00,386

because I was pushing

 

565

00:17:00,386 --> 00:17:01,553

the hell out of him, you know,

 

566

00:17:01,553 --> 00:17:04,089

because he being the perfectionist,

 

567

00:17:04,089 --> 00:17:05,624

he kept one

 

568

00:17:05,624 --> 00:17:07,026

look, you know, like after that

 

569

00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:08,794

I go, no, let's go,

 

570

00:17:08,794 --> 00:17:10,863

go, go, get pushing him.

 

571

00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:13,599

So it was pretty funny to see

 

572

00:17:14,933 --> 00:17:15,434

because like I

 

573

00:17:15,434 --> 00:17:16,035

said, he's a

 

574

00:17:16,035 --> 00:17:17,369

perfectionist and I'm like,

 

575

00:17:17,369 --> 00:17:19,271

we don't have time to make this perfect.

 

576

00:17:19,271 --> 00:17:21,440

It's we just got to get it down.

 

577

00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:23,609

Trust the process.

 

578

00:17:23,609 --> 00:17:24,176

So another one

 

579

00:17:24,176 --> 00:17:26,111

we talk about in the school,

 

580

00:17:26,111 --> 00:17:27,880

but there was a lot of pre

 

581

00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,915

communication once we got going.

 

582

00:17:29,948 --> 00:17:30,783

Now

 

583

00:17:31,483 --> 00:17:33,519

I just settled into it.

 

584

00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:34,720

You know, you said something

 

585

00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,857

a podcast a long time ago that this, this

 

586

00:17:39,491 --> 00:17:40,592

this this.

 

587

00:17:40,592 --> 00:17:42,261

I'm going to air quotes friend

 

588

00:17:42,261 --> 00:17:45,264

Peter allegedly that we think exists.

 

589

00:17:45,964 --> 00:17:48,200

He's going to beat your man.

 

590

00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:48,867

Yeah.

 

591

00:17:48,967 --> 00:17:49,868

He doesn't like the way

 

592

00:17:49,868 --> 00:17:51,336

you treat me on these shows.

 

593

00:17:51,336 --> 00:17:52,905

Okay.

 

594

00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:53,872

You said he was like

 

595

00:17:53,872 --> 00:17:55,240

the king of vacuuming

 

596

00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,676

and that you just let him do it.

 

597

00:17:57,676 --> 00:17:59,411

I think delegating to like

 

598

00:17:59,411 --> 00:18:00,212

like my brother

 

599

00:18:00,212 --> 00:18:01,280

Doug is a perfectionist

 

600

00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,347

about some things,

 

601

00:18:02,347 --> 00:18:03,749

and you just learn to let.

 

602

00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:03,916

All right.

 

603

00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:06,085

Well, then that's his let him do that

 

604

00:18:06,085 --> 00:18:07,152

because he's not going to be happy

 

605

00:18:07,152 --> 00:18:08,087

if I do it.

 

606

00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:09,021

So while he's doing that,

 

607

00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:10,022

maybe it's more productive

 

608

00:18:10,022 --> 00:18:12,091

if I do something else because that's his

 

609

00:18:12,458 --> 00:18:14,193

that's his thing right there.

 

610

00:18:14,193 --> 00:18:15,394

He's that guy.

 

611

00:18:15,394 --> 00:18:17,529

Maybe isn't maybe he's the as your guy.

 

612

00:18:17,529 --> 00:18:18,464

Nobody can know.

 

613

00:18:18,464 --> 00:18:19,231

We can

 

614

00:18:19,231 --> 00:18:21,133

if he starts someone else

 

615

00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:22,534

edges and he's stating the floor

 

616

00:18:22,534 --> 00:18:24,002

and he sees world works,

 

617

00:18:24,002 --> 00:18:25,704

he's going to go through the roof.

 

618

00:18:25,704 --> 00:18:27,573

So maybe he's he's that guy.

 

619

00:18:27,573 --> 00:18:28,740

You know what I mean?

 

620

00:18:28,907 --> 00:18:30,042

And I'll tell you something else.

 

621

00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:31,243

And I was guilty of this

 

622

00:18:32,811 --> 00:18:33,712

by saying

 

623

00:18:33,712 --> 00:18:36,915

this one simple two letter word, no

 

624

00:18:37,516 --> 00:18:39,151

can eliminate a tremendous amount of

 

625

00:18:39,151 --> 00:18:41,019

stress in your life.

 

626

00:18:41,019 --> 00:18:42,855

I sometimes book too many jobs.

 

627

00:18:42,855 --> 00:18:43,956

I mean, you know what I mean?

 

628

00:18:43,956 --> 00:18:45,691

But without without time in between.

 

629

00:18:45,691 --> 00:18:46,291

As you know,

 

630

00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:50,963

I wanted every every job in the world.

 

631

00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:53,031

And that's my fault.

 

632

00:18:53,031 --> 00:18:54,066

And that's stress

 

633

00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:55,334

I'm putting on the whole crew

 

634

00:18:55,334 --> 00:18:56,835

when I when I when I did that.

 

635

00:18:56,835 --> 00:18:57,769

And I have to recognize

 

636

00:18:57,769 --> 00:18:59,171

I have to own that.

 

637

00:18:59,538 --> 00:19:00,305

So

 

638

00:19:01,073 --> 00:19:03,642

I think saying no and and why are you

 

639

00:19:04,042 --> 00:19:07,613

why are you don't say no.

 

640

00:19:07,613 --> 00:19:08,947

I think maybe you have to examine

 

641

00:19:08,947 --> 00:19:09,648

that sometimes.

 

642

00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:12,217

Maybe it's just because

 

643

00:19:12,518 --> 00:19:13,051

you're doing it

 

644

00:19:13,051 --> 00:19:15,120

out of guilt or obligation

 

645

00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:16,588

or you're your people

 

646

00:19:16,588 --> 00:19:17,523

pleaser type of guy.

 

647

00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:19,124

You just want everybody to be happy

 

648

00:19:19,124 --> 00:19:19,992

and then you end up

 

649

00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:21,160

eating all the stress.

 

650

00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,162

So there's a lot of a lot of

 

651

00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:24,429

it is a big deal.

 

652

00:19:24,429 --> 00:19:25,297

I mean, it you know,

 

653

00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:26,465

I think it's an important episode

 

654

00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:28,167

because it's part

 

655

00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:29,434

it goes hand in hand

 

656

00:19:29,434 --> 00:19:31,203

and parcel with this job

 

657

00:19:31,203 --> 00:19:32,337

and you have to be able

 

658

00:19:32,337 --> 00:19:33,272

to figure this one out.

 

659

00:19:34,806 --> 00:19:35,607

And because there's

 

660

00:19:35,607 --> 00:19:37,442

not a paycheck behind it and whatever,

 

661

00:19:37,442 --> 00:19:38,610

I mean can be it's

 

662

00:19:38,610 --> 00:19:41,813

maybe it's not tangible every time.

 

663

00:19:41,813 --> 00:19:43,582

It's very important nonetheless.

 

664

00:19:43,582 --> 00:19:44,716

And I think it's important

 

665

00:19:44,716 --> 00:19:46,084

you have to come to

 

666

00:19:46,084 --> 00:19:48,654

some kind of arrangement in yourself,

 

667

00:19:48,654 --> 00:19:49,721

your makeup

 

668

00:19:49,721 --> 00:19:53,525

on how you how you deal with it.

 

669

00:19:53,525 --> 00:19:54,593

I would like to see how

 

670

00:19:54,593 --> 00:19:55,861

you delegate your stress

 

671

00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:56,962

to the other guys.

 

672

00:19:56,962 --> 00:19:57,796

That's

 

673

00:19:58,830 --> 00:19:59,898

that's a good one.

 

674

00:19:59,898 --> 00:20:02,100

I lay that off on them, too.

 

675

00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:06,705

I start with yelling, yeah.

 

676

00:20:06,738 --> 00:20:08,607

Then throw things.

 

677

00:20:09,241 --> 00:20:11,276

Yeah, then kick things.

 

678

00:20:11,577 --> 00:20:13,679

Off. It's a three step process.

 

679

00:20:13,712 --> 00:20:15,380

I wish I had seen the tea bar

 

680

00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:17,249

flying out the door.

 

681

00:20:17,249 --> 00:20:18,317

Yeah, I do agree

 

682

00:20:18,317 --> 00:20:19,585

with what you said though.

 

683

00:20:19,585 --> 00:20:20,819

Embrace the stress

 

684

00:20:20,819 --> 00:20:24,323

because it's going to make you better.

 

685

00:20:24,323 --> 00:20:25,958

Yeah, 100%.

 

686

00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:27,125

It's going to make you better.

 

687

00:20:27,125 --> 00:20:28,860

You just can't let it eat your life.

 

688

00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:32,598

But it will definitely make you better.

 

689

00:20:32,598 --> 00:20:34,166

And he also is talking about

 

690

00:20:34,166 --> 00:20:35,901

eating you alive. You can't

 

691

00:20:37,135 --> 00:20:38,036

you got to

 

692

00:20:38,136 --> 00:20:39,071

you've got to

 

693

00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,205

not have that voice in your head

 

694

00:20:40,205 --> 00:20:41,607

criticizing yourself

 

695

00:20:41,607 --> 00:20:43,675

for for mistakes and stuff like that.

 

696

00:20:43,675 --> 00:20:44,676

You know what I mean?

 

697

00:20:44,676 --> 00:20:46,111

You take on a lot of responsibility

 

698

00:20:46,111 --> 00:20:47,512

when you do this job.

 

699

00:20:47,512 --> 00:20:49,248

There is a hundred

 

700

00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:50,649

different steps in doing it. Floor.

 

701

00:20:50,649 --> 00:20:52,484

Every step is critical.

 

702

00:20:52,484 --> 00:20:54,152

None of it can be overlooked.

 

703

00:20:54,152 --> 00:20:56,321

You can't take a shortcut on anything.

 

704

00:20:57,289 --> 00:20:58,257

At least you know.

 

705

00:20:58,257 --> 00:20:59,725

It seems like some of the other guys came

 

706

00:20:59,725 --> 00:21:00,525

when you go big jobs

 

707

00:21:00,525 --> 00:21:00,959

in this world

 

708

00:21:00,959 --> 00:21:02,628

Mark's and he's seemed like they got paid

 

709

00:21:02,628 --> 00:21:03,662

and they got away with it

 

710

00:21:03,662 --> 00:21:04,396

for some reason.

 

711

00:21:04,396 --> 00:21:05,030

You can't

 

712

00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:08,166

you think you know how that works

 

713

00:21:08,166 --> 00:21:08,967

but

 

714

00:21:09,601 --> 00:21:11,937

but but by doing that because here's

 

715

00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:12,671

what happens to

 

716

00:21:12,671 --> 00:21:16,575

when you get in that mode, then

 

717

00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:17,876

it kind of becomes

 

718

00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:21,913

like you start making bad decisions.

 

719

00:21:22,247 --> 00:21:23,248

When we started doing that,

 

720

00:21:23,248 --> 00:21:23,915

when you guys,

 

721

00:21:23,915 --> 00:21:24,816

when you get stressed out

 

722

00:21:24,816 --> 00:21:25,250

and you get in

 

723

00:21:25,250 --> 00:21:28,253

that you can get into a panic mode and

 

724

00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:30,255

you just have to tell yourself,

 

725

00:21:30,255 --> 00:21:32,124

Hey, I've been here before,

 

726

00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:34,693

we'll get through it, we'll handle it.

 

727

00:21:34,693 --> 00:21:35,694

We experience

 

728

00:21:35,694 --> 00:21:36,194

a lot of

 

729

00:21:36,194 --> 00:21:37,963

different stressful situations before

 

730

00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:40,232

and take a deep,

 

731

00:21:40,232 --> 00:21:40,799

deep breath

 

732

00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:42,467

and don't go into panic mode and

 

733

00:21:42,467 --> 00:21:45,237

and just, you know, just kind of

 

734

00:21:45,237 --> 00:21:47,739

talk yourself out of it so you.

 

735

00:21:48,607 --> 00:21:51,009

You need confidence.

 

736

00:21:51,043 --> 00:21:52,144

Yes.

 

737

00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:54,846

You need to often it's like, I got this,

 

738

00:21:55,947 --> 00:21:58,350

I get this.

 

739

00:21:58,350 --> 00:21:59,718

Well, the duck, right?

 

740

00:21:59,718 --> 00:22:01,353

He looks at

 

741

00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:02,621

the duck and underneath

 

742

00:22:02,621 --> 00:22:04,356

is paddling like crazy.

 

743

00:22:04,356 --> 00:22:05,524

I think you have to do something

 

744

00:22:05,524 --> 00:22:06,091

else, too.

 

745

00:22:06,091 --> 00:22:07,092

I think that's important.

 

746

00:22:07,092 --> 00:22:10,495

And I recognize this.

 

747

00:22:10,495 --> 00:22:12,631

When you get past it and you succeed,

 

748

00:22:12,631 --> 00:22:13,699

I think you need to stop

 

749

00:22:13,699 --> 00:22:14,866

and take a minute

 

750

00:22:14,866 --> 00:22:16,268

and congratulate yourself,

 

751

00:22:16,268 --> 00:22:17,803

just even if it's just a little, hey,

 

752

00:22:17,803 --> 00:22:18,236

you know what?

 

753

00:22:18,236 --> 00:22:19,771

We did this man and this

 

754

00:22:19,771 --> 00:22:22,274

and then kind of walk the steps and why

 

755

00:22:22,274 --> 00:22:23,342

I always want to remain.

 

756

00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:24,042

I always it's

 

757

00:22:24,042 --> 00:22:26,044

very that's why I took note so, so often.

 

758

00:22:26,645 --> 00:22:27,746

I want to

 

759

00:22:27,746 --> 00:22:30,248

always remember what led to the success

 

760

00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:32,684

and why it was successful and what we did

 

761

00:22:32,684 --> 00:22:33,819

and what were my concerns.

 

762

00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:34,586

I even put that in.

 

763

00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:35,721

If you go back and look at my notes

 

764

00:22:35,721 --> 00:22:38,023

as I was worried about X

 

765

00:22:38,023 --> 00:22:40,459

and then I did the boom, boom, boom.

 

766

00:22:40,459 --> 00:22:42,194

And so I

 

767

00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:44,196

even if you never read the notes,

 

768

00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:44,996

that's why

 

769

00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:46,498

that's why when you're

 

770

00:22:46,498 --> 00:22:48,367

when you're a teacher

 

771

00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:49,501

or if you really want to get good

 

772

00:22:49,501 --> 00:22:51,503

something, teach it to someone else.

 

773

00:22:52,771 --> 00:22:53,538

Because when you

 

774

00:22:53,538 --> 00:22:55,607

start teaching it to someone else,

 

775

00:22:55,607 --> 00:22:57,476

you'll realize how much you know.

 

776

00:22:57,476 --> 00:22:57,943

You know what I mean?

 

777

00:22:57,943 --> 00:22:58,977

Let me tell you something.

 

778

00:22:58,977 --> 00:23:00,278

When I get back on the air

 

779

00:23:00,278 --> 00:23:04,249

someday, I'm going to be an all star.

 

780

00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:07,352

Now that I coached hockey so long,

 

781

00:23:07,352 --> 00:23:09,421

I wish that somebody had coached me

 

782

00:23:09,421 --> 00:23:11,623

the way that I coached everybody else.

 

783

00:23:11,623 --> 00:23:13,558

Yeah, I'd have been a superstar.

 

784

00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:16,361

Yeah, I completely agree with you.

 

785

00:23:16,361 --> 00:23:17,462

You want to learn more

 

786

00:23:17,462 --> 00:23:19,197

about what you're doing,

 

787

00:23:19,197 --> 00:23:20,399

teach or coach,

 

788

00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:23,301

and then all of a sudden things start.

 

789

00:23:23,301 --> 00:23:25,737

Well, I know what I do flaws better.

 

790

00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:27,539

Since I've been

 

791

00:23:27,773 --> 00:23:28,573

since I started

 

792

00:23:28,573 --> 00:23:29,541

being an instructor,

 

793

00:23:29,541 --> 00:23:31,810

I definitely do a better job

 

794

00:23:31,810 --> 00:23:33,945

with my flaws just from,

 

795

00:23:33,945 --> 00:23:35,080

you know, actually practice

 

796

00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,381

and what I preach.

 

797

00:23:36,381 --> 00:23:37,616

Yeah, not,

 

798

00:23:37,616 --> 00:23:39,284

you know, not cutting around things.

 

799

00:23:40,452 --> 00:23:41,253

If you

 

800

00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:41,820

never done it

 

801

00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:43,321

before and you,

 

802

00:23:43,321 --> 00:23:44,122

you talk to

 

803

00:23:44,122 --> 00:23:45,724

someone who's not in the trade

 

804

00:23:45,724 --> 00:23:47,726

a how to do a floor,

 

805

00:23:47,726 --> 00:23:49,594

and you start explaining everything

 

806

00:23:49,594 --> 00:23:50,762

and then you start realizing

 

807

00:23:50,762 --> 00:23:52,230

all these details

 

808

00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:53,098

and all these little things

 

809

00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:54,499

that come around.

 

810

00:23:54,499 --> 00:23:55,567

I think you'll impress

 

811

00:23:55,567 --> 00:23:57,536

the hell out of yourself

 

812

00:23:57,536 --> 00:23:59,671

when you relay it back to somebody else

 

813

00:23:59,671 --> 00:24:00,539

who's never done it before,

 

814

00:24:00,539 --> 00:24:02,641

because there's so many steps

 

815

00:24:02,641 --> 00:24:05,043

and it becomes second nature to you that

 

816

00:24:07,045 --> 00:24:08,380

then it's a ton.

 

817

00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:09,781

And I think

 

818

00:24:09,781 --> 00:24:10,048

for me

 

819

00:24:10,048 --> 00:24:11,249

it was when I started teaching

 

820

00:24:11,249 --> 00:24:13,652

that I never had it near as much as you.

 

821

00:24:13,652 --> 00:24:15,687

Obviously I moved on quicker.

 

822

00:24:15,687 --> 00:24:16,922

You got it.

 

823

00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:18,757

Now.

 

824

00:24:19,591 --> 00:24:21,359

A master dad and just a

 

825

00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,794

I don't know, a few, few classes.

 

826

00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:23,161

It does.

 

827

00:24:23,161 --> 00:24:25,997

It's just it's just kept going right on.

 

828

00:24:25,997 --> 00:24:28,233

Just get over on. Yes.

 

829

00:24:28,233 --> 00:24:30,335

But in that short amount of time,

 

830

00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:34,906

I was like, wow, it's amazing.

 

831

00:24:34,906 --> 00:24:38,143

And how much you learn about yourself

 

832

00:24:38,143 --> 00:24:39,211

and the trade and everything

 

833

00:24:39,211 --> 00:24:40,111

and it's kind of cool.

 

834

00:24:40,111 --> 00:24:42,180

So, you know,

 

835

00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:42,647

think about

 

836

00:24:42,647 --> 00:24:43,615

when you're showing somebody

 

837

00:24:43,615 --> 00:24:46,351

how to run a big machine.

 

838

00:24:46,351 --> 00:24:47,552

You think about. It.

 

839

00:24:47,552 --> 00:24:49,321

I am thinking about it. Okay.

 

840

00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:50,489

And I've had guys

 

841

00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:51,356

who were

 

842

00:24:51,356 --> 00:24:52,290

who work with me

 

843

00:24:52,290 --> 00:24:53,258

and started working with me

 

844

00:24:53,258 --> 00:24:54,226

and they're like,

 

845

00:24:54,292 --> 00:24:55,427

Oh, he's doing this, he's

 

846

00:24:55,427 --> 00:24:56,127

doing that wrong.

 

847

00:24:56,127 --> 00:24:57,929

And I'm like, You know what?

 

848

00:24:57,929 --> 00:25:00,332

To really run a big machine properly,

 

849

00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:01,766

there's there's 12

 

850

00:25:01,766 --> 00:25:03,602

things you're telling me.

 

851

00:25:03,602 --> 00:25:05,670

I go if you tell him 12 things at a time,

 

852

00:25:05,770 --> 00:25:06,605

so, you know,

 

853

00:25:06,605 --> 00:25:08,006

I'll give him

 

854

00:25:08,139 --> 00:25:09,875

two or three things to start with.

 

855

00:25:09,875 --> 00:25:11,176

You're the two or three things

 

856

00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:12,010

I want you to do.

 

857

00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:13,111

And then

 

858

00:25:13,278 --> 00:25:14,613

once they get that down,

 

859

00:25:14,613 --> 00:25:16,548

they get a little time in,

 

860

00:25:16,548 --> 00:25:17,182

you know what I mean?

 

861

00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:18,350

They get a little muscle memory.

 

862

00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:20,552

Then I'll add another two or three things

 

863

00:25:20,552 --> 00:25:23,221

and then another couple of things,

 

864

00:25:23,221 --> 00:25:24,289

because it's amazing

 

865

00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:26,424

when you start breaking down, when you're

 

866

00:25:26,424 --> 00:25:27,859

teaching people about,

 

867

00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:28,894

you know, operating

 

868

00:25:28,894 --> 00:25:30,929

the equipment correctly and direction and

 

869

00:25:30,929 --> 00:25:32,030

footprint, all that stuff.

 

870

00:25:33,031 --> 00:25:35,100

There's a lot that's going on there

 

871

00:25:35,433 --> 00:25:37,202

that, you know,

 

872

00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,403

you've been doing it so long,

 

873

00:25:38,403 --> 00:25:40,639

you just turn the machine on and go.

 

874

00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,008

But

 

875

00:25:43,975 --> 00:25:44,676

go ahead.

 

876

00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:45,677

I,

 

877

00:25:46,411 --> 00:25:50,215

I met a rep one time, different company.

 

878

00:25:50,282 --> 00:25:52,050

We ended up on one of the schools

 

879

00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:52,884

on the same panel.

 

880

00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:53,518

And we're just,

 

881

00:25:53,518 --> 00:25:53,818

you know,

 

882

00:25:53,818 --> 00:25:54,920

getting to know each other and everything

 

883

00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,922

and add back backgrounds and stuff.

 

884

00:25:56,922 --> 00:25:58,089

And he told me he was a

 

885

00:25:58,089 --> 00:25:59,491

he was a Harvard Law man before

 

886

00:25:59,491 --> 00:26:01,026

before he got into to sales,

 

887

00:26:01,026 --> 00:26:01,593

what have you guys.

 

888

00:26:01,593 --> 00:26:02,127

Okay, whatever.

 

889

00:26:02,127 --> 00:26:03,929

I didn't think anything about it

 

890

00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:06,231

when it came time to say on the floor,

 

891

00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:10,402

Rob, I am not I'm not making it up.

 

892

00:26:10,402 --> 00:26:12,103

He got behind a big sander,

 

893

00:26:12,103 --> 00:26:13,471

and in three steps

 

894

00:26:13,471 --> 00:26:16,074

I said out loud to myself, Nope. No.

 

895

00:26:17,842 --> 00:26:19,344

I ain't a floor man.

 

896

00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:19,978

Who is he?

 

897

00:26:19,978 --> 00:26:21,580

Tell me. I'm not going to.

 

898

00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,281

They're going to say, you go. Yeah.

 

899

00:26:23,281 --> 00:26:24,616

I'll tell the. World.

 

900

00:26:24,616 --> 00:26:26,718

I'll tell you who he is.

 

901

00:26:26,718 --> 00:26:27,752

But yeah.

 

902

00:26:27,752 --> 00:26:28,753

So there's so many things

 

903

00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:30,355

I think we don't even realize.

 

904

00:26:30,355 --> 00:26:31,923

There's so many and gosh,

 

905

00:26:31,923 --> 00:26:33,525

there's so many small

 

906

00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:35,226

and there's that's why

 

907

00:26:35,226 --> 00:26:37,295

it's hard to hire somebody

 

908

00:26:37,295 --> 00:26:38,964

if you're really good at your craft

 

909

00:26:38,964 --> 00:26:40,532

and you care about is so hard

 

910

00:26:40,532 --> 00:26:42,233

because there's so many little things

 

911

00:26:42,233 --> 00:26:43,301

even vacuuming

 

912

00:26:43,301 --> 00:26:44,769

with the grain instead of vacuum

 

913

00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:45,503

against the grain.

 

914

00:26:45,503 --> 00:26:46,871

And in case of thing on the edge

 

915

00:26:46,871 --> 00:26:47,606

and the

 

916

00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:48,573

the vacuum falls off

 

917

00:26:48,573 --> 00:26:49,741

and you inside your closet,

 

918

00:26:49,741 --> 00:26:51,176

at least you're going with the grain,

 

919

00:26:51,176 --> 00:26:51,910

the little things.

 

920

00:26:51,910 --> 00:26:53,111

When you run in the buffer

 

921

00:26:53,111 --> 00:26:53,778

and you listen,

 

922

00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:54,779

you don't have your headphones on

 

923

00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:56,481

because you hear one of those

 

924

00:26:56,481 --> 00:26:57,215

flaky boards.

 

925

00:26:57,215 --> 00:26:58,083

And of course, I hear

 

926

00:26:58,083 --> 00:27:00,085

it's as it goes across,

 

927

00:27:00,085 --> 00:27:01,786

I explain that to somebody,

 

928

00:27:01,786 --> 00:27:02,787

you know what I mean?

 

929

00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:03,188

There's a

 

930

00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:04,055

there's so many things

 

931

00:27:04,055 --> 00:27:06,091

that go into this many, many small

 

932

00:27:06,091 --> 00:27:07,359

matters, small,

 

933

00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,460

small things

 

934

00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:10,428

that add up to getting the check

 

935

00:27:10,428 --> 00:27:11,896

at the end of the job and making,

 

936

00:27:11,896 --> 00:27:13,932

you know, making it be successful. So.

 

937

00:27:13,932 --> 00:27:14,766

All right.

 

938

00:27:14,966 --> 00:27:17,869

Hey, one more question.

 

939

00:27:17,869 --> 00:27:19,871

So I know how you dealt with stress.

 

940

00:27:19,871 --> 00:27:20,972

When you got done,

 

941

00:27:20,972 --> 00:27:22,307

you threw the tea bar out the door.

 

942

00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:24,409

I think I was on that story.

 

943

00:27:24,409 --> 00:27:25,910

But when you got home,

 

944

00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:28,146

any any ways that you dealt with stress.

 

945

00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,650

I can always leave it at home.

 

946

00:27:32,283 --> 00:27:33,685

I'm at home.

 

947

00:27:33,785 --> 00:27:34,986

I can always.

 

948

00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:36,621

Get. Oh, lucky Judy.

 

949

00:27:36,621 --> 00:27:37,856

Yeah, I.

 

950

00:27:37,856 --> 00:27:40,191

Give her all the stress and then yeah.

 

951

00:27:40,625 --> 00:27:42,527

For the most part, I was

 

952

00:27:42,527 --> 00:27:43,995

and I am so very,

 

953

00:27:43,995 --> 00:27:44,696

very fortunate

 

954

00:27:44,696 --> 00:27:46,731

because I'm on my personal side.

 

955

00:27:46,731 --> 00:27:48,767

I've I've have a charmed life.

 

956

00:27:48,767 --> 00:27:50,869

I'm very lucky.

 

957

00:27:50,869 --> 00:27:52,003

We always get along great.

 

958

00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:54,939

So we never have any real stress

 

959

00:27:54,939 --> 00:27:56,341

on that side of my life.

 

960

00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:56,908

You know what I mean?

 

961

00:27:56,908 --> 00:27:58,476

All my stress was business related,

 

962

00:27:59,778 --> 00:28:01,112

little family stress, but

 

963

00:28:01,112 --> 00:28:02,247

I was able to beat him up.

 

964

00:28:02,247 --> 00:28:03,381

But anyhow,

 

965

00:28:04,783 --> 00:28:06,217

other than that,

 

966

00:28:06,584 --> 00:28:08,186

no.

 

967

00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:08,720

Huh.

 

968

00:28:11,289 --> 00:28:12,257

Well, that's good.

 

969

00:28:12,257 --> 00:28:12,924

Yeah.

 

970

00:28:13,291 --> 00:28:14,626

I mean, we got some,

 

971

00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:15,760

you know, some of the

 

972

00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,463

some of the interviews we did.

 

973

00:28:18,463 --> 00:28:19,531

It was great.

 

974

00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:20,632

We had some

 

975

00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:23,401

we got some really great answers

 

976

00:28:23,401 --> 00:28:24,803

as to how people different guys

 

977

00:28:24,803 --> 00:28:26,371

in our industry deal with the stress.

 

978

00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:28,773

I think everybody's going to enjoy that.

 

979

00:28:28,773 --> 00:28:30,875

And these are very successful,

 

980

00:28:30,875 --> 00:28:32,143

very good craftsmen,

 

981

00:28:32,143 --> 00:28:33,712

very good businessmen.

 

982

00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:36,014

So I'm really stoked that we

 

983

00:28:36,181 --> 00:28:37,482

we got a chance to talk to these guys.

 

984

00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:39,718

So why don't we just go in? Roll it.

 

985

00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:41,953

Well, for me, things are different.

 

986

00:28:41,953 --> 00:28:43,955

After being in business so long,

 

987

00:28:43,955 --> 00:28:47,325

I've been able to not allow the customer

 

988

00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,861

to to dictate how the

 

989

00:28:49,961 --> 00:28:51,362

the pricing is going to go.

 

990

00:28:51,362 --> 00:28:53,431

We we kind of come up with a

 

991

00:28:53,765 --> 00:28:55,333

a plan of what they're looking for.

 

992

00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:56,668

I don't let them,

 

993

00:28:56,668 --> 00:28:58,136

you know, if it's a sand and finished

 

994

00:28:58,136 --> 00:28:59,938

and we'll ask them what do they,

 

995

00:28:59,938 --> 00:29:01,740

you know, expect from the floor.

 

996

00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:02,474

What are they thinking

 

997

00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:03,842

as far as color those?

 

998

00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:05,910

How long do they plan on staying there?

 

999

00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:07,979

And then I can price the

 

1000

00:29:08,113 --> 00:29:10,181

the amount of coats that I know apply

 

1001

00:29:10,181 --> 00:29:11,416

or or the

 

1002

00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:12,751

procedure that we're going to do.

 

1003

00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:14,486

But majority of the customers

 

1004

00:29:14,486 --> 00:29:16,154

are long time customers of mine.

 

1005

00:29:16,154 --> 00:29:18,990

So the repeat or or higher ed referrals.

 

1006

00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:19,791

So it makes it a lot

 

1007

00:29:19,791 --> 00:29:21,760

easier that when we go in there,

 

1008

00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,661

we're basically talking about,

 

1009

00:29:23,661 --> 00:29:26,431

you know, what their, their needs are and

 

1010

00:29:27,365 --> 00:29:28,233

which rooms we're going to

 

1011

00:29:28,233 --> 00:29:29,400

do and then whether do doing them

 

1012

00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,301

natural or stain.

 

1013

00:29:30,301 --> 00:29:31,903

And so it makes it a lot easier.

 

1014

00:29:31,903 --> 00:29:33,171

And then when we give them a price,

 

1015

00:29:33,171 --> 00:29:34,072

sometimes

 

1016

00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:36,040

they may not even look at the estimate

 

1017

00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,709

but just put it to the side.

 

1018

00:29:37,709 --> 00:29:39,511

We'll continue our conversation.

 

1019

00:29:39,511 --> 00:29:41,012

And then they'll basically say, okay,

 

1020

00:29:41,012 --> 00:29:42,480

when are you available?

 

1021

00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,181

So

 

1022

00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:45,016

I've gotten away

 

1023

00:29:45,016 --> 00:29:46,818

from how much a square foot

 

1024

00:29:46,818 --> 00:29:48,453

question is when they asked me

 

1025

00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:51,022

already out how much a square foot.

 

1026

00:29:51,022 --> 00:29:53,391

I'm pretty sure I've not got to be

 

1027

00:29:53,391 --> 00:29:54,058

their guy.

 

1028

00:29:54,058 --> 00:29:56,928

I'll be like 100% sure that I know

 

1029

00:29:57,128 --> 00:29:57,662

that's how.

 

1030

00:29:57,662 --> 00:29:58,163

Yeah.

 

1031

00:29:58,163 --> 00:29:59,264

So, well, you know,

 

1032

00:29:59,264 --> 00:30:00,231

because I always ask them,

 

1033

00:30:00,231 --> 00:30:01,599

you know, you're driving a car.

 

1034

00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:03,301

Did you ask that car guy

 

1035

00:30:03,301 --> 00:30:05,270

how much the car is

 

1036

00:30:05,270 --> 00:30:06,805

or is it the kind of car

 

1037

00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:07,872

that you're looking for?

 

1038

00:30:07,872 --> 00:30:08,306

And that's

 

1039

00:30:08,306 --> 00:30:10,074

why you're at the car dealership.

 

1040

00:30:10,074 --> 00:30:11,376

So I,

 

1041

00:30:11,376 --> 00:30:13,111

I kind of need to talk

 

1042

00:30:13,111 --> 00:30:15,480

to gauge their expectations about what

 

1043

00:30:15,747 --> 00:30:17,081

their needs are versus

 

1044

00:30:17,081 --> 00:30:18,750

how much it is a square fire.

 

1045

00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:20,952

Oh, it's tough. It's a it's a juggle.

 

1046

00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:22,720

You know, you have to really

 

1047

00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,588

but at the end of the day,

 

1048

00:30:23,588 --> 00:30:25,190

you really just have to

 

1049

00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:26,791

just just relax

 

1050

00:30:26,791 --> 00:30:28,960

and take one day at a time.

 

1051

00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,830

You know, like I have problems keeping.

 

1052

00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,665

Up a phone calls and,

 

1053

00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:34,032

you know,

 

1054

00:30:34,032 --> 00:30:35,667

I'm kind of a

 

1055

00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,836

do it all guy on the estimate or.

 

1056

00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:39,571

The secretary, the,

 

1057

00:30:39,571 --> 00:30:41,806

you know, the the payroll guy and,

 

1058

00:30:41,806 --> 00:30:43,041

you know, and

 

1059

00:30:43,041 --> 00:30:44,108

but you just, you know,

 

1060

00:30:44,108 --> 00:30:45,710

I just really try not to bite off

 

1061

00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:46,644

more than I can chew.

 

1062

00:30:46,644 --> 00:30:49,981

And, you know, a faithful guy.

 

1063

00:30:49,981 --> 00:30:52,250

So I rely a lot on that

 

1064

00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:54,419

and will just one day, one day at a time

 

1065

00:30:54,419 --> 00:30:56,221

and then try to keep work. Work.

 

1066

00:30:56,221 --> 00:30:58,790

And yeah, my family's very special to me.

 

1067

00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:00,892

So I keep them, you know, keep them on.

 

1068

00:31:00,925 --> 00:31:01,893

But they're involved, too.

 

1069

00:31:01,893 --> 00:31:03,161

So I like the style.

 

1070

00:31:03,161 --> 00:31:03,661

You know,

 

1071

00:31:03,661 --> 00:31:07,232

a lot of it is about perspective,

 

1072

00:31:07,532 --> 00:31:08,833

understanding that not

 

1073

00:31:08,833 --> 00:31:09,634

everything is going to go

 

1074

00:31:09,634 --> 00:31:12,070

well every single time, not that

 

1075

00:31:12,770 --> 00:31:14,072

you're not going make the effort

 

1076

00:31:14,072 --> 00:31:15,373

to try to do the best

 

1077

00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:17,542

you can and run the food as best you can.

 

1078

00:31:17,609 --> 00:31:19,177

Give your customer the best product.

 

1079

00:31:19,177 --> 00:31:20,211

But just knowing that

 

1080

00:31:20,211 --> 00:31:20,945

there are things

 

1081

00:31:20,945 --> 00:31:22,080

that are going to go wrong

 

1082

00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,414

and then just knowing

 

1083

00:31:23,414 --> 00:31:25,383

that you have the experience

 

1084

00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:25,884

and the knowledge

 

1085

00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:27,318

to be able to deal with that

 

1086

00:31:27,318 --> 00:31:28,686

while at the same time that

 

1087

00:31:29,954 --> 00:31:31,589

not everything is like enough.

 

1088

00:31:31,589 --> 00:31:33,358

You know, in my younger years,

 

1089

00:31:33,358 --> 00:31:34,926

everything was everything that I wanted

 

1090

00:31:34,926 --> 00:31:36,728

to make sure that the job went well.

 

1091

00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:37,362

And one of the issues,

 

1092

00:31:37,362 --> 00:31:40,064

the customer is 100% happy that

 

1093

00:31:40,064 --> 00:31:41,199

and with that,

 

1094

00:31:41,199 --> 00:31:41,966

there's a lot of pressure

 

1095

00:31:41,966 --> 00:31:43,201

associated with that.

 

1096

00:31:43,201 --> 00:31:45,303

So I feel like as I've gotten older,

 

1097

00:31:45,303 --> 00:31:47,672

I've also got a little more perspective

 

1098

00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:48,973

and realize that

 

1099

00:31:48,973 --> 00:31:50,708

although what we do is important,

 

1100

00:31:50,708 --> 00:31:51,276

it's not the

 

1101

00:31:51,276 --> 00:31:52,543

most important thing in the world.

 

1102

00:31:52,543 --> 00:31:55,113

And when things issues do come up,

 

1103

00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,015

you deal with them

 

1104

00:31:57,015 --> 00:31:58,616

as best you can, is professional

 

1105

00:31:58,616 --> 00:31:59,417

as you can.

 

1106

00:31:59,417 --> 00:32:00,218

But just keep in mind

 

1107

00:32:00,218 --> 00:32:01,653

that it's not the law.

 

1108

00:32:01,653 --> 00:32:03,855

Yeah, I'm a beekeeper.

 

1109

00:32:03,855 --> 00:32:06,591

I go out in my yard after work

 

1110

00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:08,760

and I just watch the bees come in and out

 

1111

00:32:08,793 --> 00:32:10,628

and fly carefree

 

1112

00:32:10,628 --> 00:32:13,364

and just enjoying their day, doing work

 

1113

00:32:13,364 --> 00:32:15,333

so they can make it to the winter.

 

1114

00:32:15,333 --> 00:32:16,868

Just like that. Sometimes. Yeah.

 

1115

00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:18,603

You have to be calm around the bees.

 

1116

00:32:18,603 --> 00:32:20,104

If you're mad or aggravated,

 

1117

00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:22,340

you start making stupid moves

 

1118

00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:22,941

and the bees

 

1119

00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:24,008

tell you when you make a stupid

 

1120

00:32:24,008 --> 00:32:25,243

move by staying in the arm

 

1121

00:32:26,344 --> 00:32:28,713

or the face or whatever the case may be.

 

1122

00:32:28,713 --> 00:32:31,249

So you just have to be really quiet

 

1123

00:32:31,249 --> 00:32:33,284

and just calm and

 

1124

00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:34,519

and it's

 

1125

00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:35,186

kind of like

 

1126

00:32:35,186 --> 00:32:36,321

a little meditation,

 

1127

00:32:36,321 --> 00:32:39,390

meditation, meditation to well,

 

1128

00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:40,224

I was lucky.

 

1129

00:32:40,224 --> 00:32:42,093

My father taught me how to meditate

 

1130

00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:43,261

when I was young,

 

1131

00:32:43,428 --> 00:32:45,330

to deal with headaches, actually.

 

1132

00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:47,231

And I've carried out over

 

1133

00:32:47,231 --> 00:32:48,666

into my adult life

 

1134

00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:50,001

and meditation

 

1135

00:32:50,001 --> 00:32:50,601

and just

 

1136

00:32:50,601 --> 00:32:52,837

concentrating on your breathing, really.

 

1137

00:32:52,837 --> 00:32:53,638

You'd be surprised

 

1138

00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:55,106

what you can do by

 

1139

00:32:55,106 --> 00:32:56,774

trying to put everything else

 

1140

00:32:56,774 --> 00:32:57,542

out of your brain,

 

1141

00:32:57,542 --> 00:32:59,444

concentrate on breathing

 

1142

00:32:59,444 --> 00:33:00,378

and just meditate

 

1143

00:33:00,378 --> 00:33:01,679

and not think about anything else.

 

1144

00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:03,114

For 5 minutes.

 

1145

00:33:03,114 --> 00:33:05,116

You can get your blood pressure down.

 

1146

00:33:05,116 --> 00:33:06,117

I've seen it in action

 

1147

00:33:06,117 --> 00:33:08,386

because I've I've gone to my cardiologist

 

1148

00:33:08,386 --> 00:33:10,054

and I've done it in the office.

 

1149

00:33:10,054 --> 00:33:10,822

You know, a lot of times

 

1150

00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:11,789

you go to your doctor

 

1151

00:33:11,789 --> 00:33:12,890

and they take your blood pressure

 

1152

00:33:12,890 --> 00:33:13,624

and it's super high.

 

1153

00:33:13,624 --> 00:33:14,625

You're like, Oh, what's wrong with you?

 

1154

00:33:14,625 --> 00:33:16,094

You got high blood pressure.

 

1155

00:33:16,094 --> 00:33:16,794

Well, you really don't.

 

1156

00:33:16,794 --> 00:33:18,363

Usually it's anxiety

 

1157

00:33:18,363 --> 00:33:19,831

just from being in the doctor's office.

 

1158

00:33:21,032 --> 00:33:22,300

And I found that

 

1159

00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:23,401

through meditation,

 

1160

00:33:23,401 --> 00:33:24,736

you can really lower

 

1161

00:33:24,736 --> 00:33:26,304

your blood pressure big time.

 

1162

00:33:26,304 --> 00:33:28,639

So I really use that any time.

 

1163

00:33:28,639 --> 00:33:30,108

I've had like

 

1164

00:33:30,108 --> 00:33:31,442

extreme anxiety

 

1165

00:33:31,442 --> 00:33:33,511

and I've had issues with extreme anxiety

 

1166

00:33:33,511 --> 00:33:34,612

because I have epilepsy too.

 

1167

00:33:34,612 --> 00:33:38,049

So that combined with epilepsy actually

 

1168

00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:40,118

create problems for me too.

 

1169

00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,420

So really controlling

 

1170

00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:43,755

that was like essential

 

1171

00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:45,623

or I probably wouldn't be here.

 

1172

00:33:45,623 --> 00:33:45,957

You know,

 

1173

00:33:45,957 --> 00:33:47,725

that's the hard part of this business.

 

1174

00:33:47,725 --> 00:33:50,828

But I try to take a little time off

 

1175

00:33:50,828 --> 00:33:51,362

when I can,

 

1176

00:33:51,362 --> 00:33:52,397

you know, with my kids

 

1177

00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:52,830

go, you know,

 

1178

00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:56,467

do a bicycle ride, walk in the beach,

 

1179

00:33:56,467 --> 00:33:58,703

you know, when I have a chance,

 

1180

00:33:58,703 --> 00:34:00,338

that's, you know, that's how I deal with,

 

1181

00:34:00,338 --> 00:34:01,105

you know, with the stress,

 

1182

00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:01,739

trying to forget

 

1183

00:34:01,739 --> 00:34:02,140

a little bit

 

1184

00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:05,276

about the floor for a second.

 

1185

00:34:05,276 --> 00:34:06,377

Okay. Thanks, guys.

 

1186

00:34:06,377 --> 00:34:07,311

Thanks for all the guys

 

1187

00:34:07,311 --> 00:34:08,312

that we interviewed.

 

1188

00:34:08,312 --> 00:34:09,280

I mean, there were some great

 

1189

00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,681

tips there, as I said,

 

1190

00:34:10,681 --> 00:34:12,150

from some really great floor

 

1191

00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:12,750

guys, high

 

1192

00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:14,152

character guys, man, great

 

1193

00:34:14,152 --> 00:34:15,820

craftsmen, great businessmen, all

 

1194

00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:16,921

every single one of them,

 

1195

00:34:18,289 --> 00:34:19,057

you know,

 

1196

00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:21,359

the industry's better for having them.

 

1197

00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:23,361

So thank you to those guys.

 

1198

00:34:23,361 --> 00:34:24,362

Yeah You know what?

 

1199

00:34:24,362 --> 00:34:26,264

I want to I just want to

 

1200

00:34:26,931 --> 00:34:29,100

check in again with Bill Powell.

 

1201

00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:32,336

He's like the third guy I've met

 

1202

00:34:33,137 --> 00:34:35,573

in the industry who's a B guy.

 

1203

00:34:37,041 --> 00:34:39,143

I met two guys, one guy in Ohio,

 

1204

00:34:39,143 --> 00:34:39,577

one guy

 

1205

00:34:39,577 --> 00:34:40,611

down, and

 

1206

00:34:41,012 --> 00:34:43,381

the other guy was down south someplace

 

1207

00:34:43,381 --> 00:34:44,649

when I was in sport.

 

1208

00:34:44,649 --> 00:34:48,686

They were big guys and Bill's a big guy.

 

1209

00:34:48,686 --> 00:34:50,354

And when he came into training,

 

1210

00:34:50,354 --> 00:34:51,789

we did in Albany,

 

1211

00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:52,890

he brought in,

 

1212

00:34:52,890 --> 00:34:54,559

he brought honey in for everybody.

 

1213

00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:56,861

It was stuff from his height.

 

1214

00:34:56,861 --> 00:34:59,397

So that was pretty cool.

 

1215

00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:00,364

I mean, that would be

 

1216

00:35:00,364 --> 00:35:02,700

the last thing I would think.

 

1217

00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:04,068

How do you handle stress?

 

1218

00:35:04,068 --> 00:35:04,802

I handle stress

 

1219

00:35:04,802 --> 00:35:10,608

by surrounding myself with bees.

 

1220

00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:14,545

I'm trying to find this.

 

1221

00:35:14,545 --> 00:35:15,980

I watched a movie on bees

 

1222

00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:16,981

not long ago

 

1223

00:35:16,981 --> 00:35:18,182

and it was absolutely,

 

1224

00:35:18,182 --> 00:35:19,917

positively fascinating.

 

1225

00:35:19,917 --> 00:35:21,152

And I have zero desire.

 

1226

00:35:21,152 --> 00:35:22,653

I had no desire to know

 

1227

00:35:22,653 --> 00:35:24,689

anything about bees at all. I

 

1228

00:35:26,090 --> 00:35:27,391

mean, nothing to me.

 

1229

00:35:27,391 --> 00:35:29,827

But the movie movie was fascinating.

 

1230

00:35:30,428 --> 00:35:33,464

And I also I said

 

1231

00:35:33,464 --> 00:35:35,833

I spent like a four hour drive

 

1232

00:35:35,867 --> 00:35:37,935

to to go fish with somebody.

 

1233

00:35:37,935 --> 00:35:38,202

And I

 

1234

00:35:38,202 --> 00:35:39,871

and we were all drive back

 

1235

00:35:39,871 --> 00:35:42,273

with the same guy who also

 

1236

00:35:44,475 --> 00:35:45,810

mess with bees or whatever,

 

1237

00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:48,012

you know, had bees.

 

1238

00:35:48,012 --> 00:35:50,481

And it was unbelievable

 

1239

00:35:50,481 --> 00:35:51,215

how much he was able

 

1240

00:35:51,215 --> 00:35:52,216

to learn about them bees

 

1241

00:35:52,216 --> 00:35:53,251

and how every one of them

 

1242

00:35:53,251 --> 00:35:54,886

had a certain responsibility.

 

1243

00:35:54,886 --> 00:35:57,555

And hell, it's unreal.

 

1244

00:35:57,555 --> 00:35:59,557

It's just absolutely fascinating.

 

1245

00:35:59,557 --> 00:36:02,460

So, yeah, I agree.

 

1246

00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:03,961

All right, Rob,

 

1247

00:36:03,961 --> 00:36:05,163

thank you very much, as always.

 

1248

00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:05,763

It was great to see

 

1249

00:36:05,763 --> 00:36:07,798

you spend a couple of days with you.

 

1250

00:36:07,798 --> 00:36:10,301

Always a pleasure and.

 

1251

00:36:10,301 --> 00:36:12,136

Good seeing you. Stuff.

 

1252

00:36:12,136 --> 00:36:13,371

So there's been another episode

 

1253

00:36:13,371 --> 00:36:15,339

of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

1254

00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:24,448

Please stay tuned for another episode.