On The Floor with Wayne and Rob

Burnout

Episode Summary

Wayne and Rob discuss Burnout. Key signs you might have it and ways to combat it. Follow Bona US Professional online: Website: https://www1.bona.com/en-us/professional/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BonaProfessional Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bonauspro/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonapro.us/

Episode Transcription

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Hello.

 

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Welcome to another episode of On the Floor

with Wayne and Rob.

 

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I'm Wayne Highlander

National sales manager for Bona Adhesives.

 

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And I'm Rob Johnson from Bona Training.

 

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Hey, Rob, I've got a question for you.

 

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Shoot. Shoot.

 

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Have you ever been burned out

 

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Never

 

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buy by that at all.

 

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You've never been burned out?

 

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Yeah, I have.

 

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Actually, I was.

 

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I got it last year.

 

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I think

 

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I had done

 

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13 or 14 travel weeks in a row,

 

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and I could feel

I was getting a little burned out Yeah,

 

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but on a side note.

 

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Hey, you sound great.

 

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Sound really good.

 

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I feel good, man. I feel good.

 

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You know something?

 

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I had I just had a vacation.

 

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I had five days off,

 

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four days off,

plus two days on the weekend.

 

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And I have not had I've not taken time off

since the pandemic started.

 

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It's the first and I did not

 

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realize how much I needed it

and how great it felt.

 

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And I was always willing to say,

oh, you know what?

 

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I'm good, man.

 

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I mean, I always

my guys always take vacations before I do.

 

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And then I you know, what?

 

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I'll power through and whatever.

 

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But I'm telling you, Rob,

 

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I feel fantastic

after having those days off.

 

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I really, really do.

 

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And I'm surprised

how good it made me feel.

 

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I was wondering

if that if you were getting burnt out

 

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and maybe that's that's

why you were getting sick there.

 

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I was when my wife said.

 

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That.

 

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Maybe there's something to us.

 

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I told you,

I can go years without getting sick.

 

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And I got sick like three times

back to back to back in a year this year.

 

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So never happens to me.

 

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Man, I know you're busy.

 

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I know you are a busy man.

 

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One that you have time to sleep

 

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well.

 

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You you know,

 

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I like what I do, man.

 

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So I that

 

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usually I don't need a lot of sleep

or a lot of rest.

 

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I, you know,

I feel like I've been back, but

 

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shoot.

 

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Maybe maybe.

 

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Two in a. Row.

 

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Yeah. Maybe I.

 

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I, like I said, I was surprised.

 

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I really, really felt

so rested and relaxed when I came back.

 

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And it was a great time away,

and I actually just forgot it.

 

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There was two days

there, forgot everything about.

 

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Work.

 

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And I can't tell you when that's happened

last. So.

 

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So this show is going to be about

signs of burnout.

 

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Signs of burnout.

 

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And, you know.

 

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This has been a tough two years on on

everybody in the world.

 

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If you're, you know, hip to anything

that's going on.

 

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I mean, there's so many things going

on, not including work.

 

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And then that affects

all aspects of your life.

 

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With the pain. Well,

we didn't have to go into it.

 

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We all know that almost started. Oh, yeah.

 

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Talking about it.

 

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But like like Payton said, we don't need

to pay for that real estate twice.

 

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Yeah.

 

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What was the other expression?

 

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We don't want to we don't want to hear

about the labor pains.

 

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We just want to see the baby.

 

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How have you perfect.

 

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You guys told that your daughter

yesterday?

 

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Perfect. Yeah.

 

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I can't wait to say that to her.

 

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Yes. If she's if you.

 

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Say, oh, my God,

I hope I remember that one. Yes.

 

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We want to hear about the labor pains.

 

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We just want to see the baby.

 

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You know, when we were talking

about doing this show.

 

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And. I started you know, looking at

 

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what's the name is.

 

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Show again, signs of silence.

 

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Yeah. Well, I found more stuff.

 

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I mean, I found a bunch of stuff

that we can talk about

 

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but it took me down a whole rabbit hole

that I've wanted to talk to you about,

 

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especially where your a team leader

 

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is noticing burnout on your guys.

 

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And I was thinking about how many crews

 

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they've had come to trainings

over the past couple of years

 

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who have just been

you know, right up against it, as busy as,

 

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you know, they could work every day

if they wanted.

 

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And you know, you see it

sometimes it's for guys, too.

 

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Once they start getting towards Labor Day,

 

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you know, it's been a lot of two,

three weeks in a row.

 

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Of working.

 

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I think this is something to that

you might want to be looking at your team

 

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and looking for burnout on them, too.

 

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Yeah.

 

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I wonder when

so when you see crews come in

 

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for like for a Monday class or whatever,

 

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do you do

you get a sense that they're dragging,

 

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that they're tired, that they've got here

and they've

 

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they've been working a ton of hours?

 

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You pick up on that at all? No, no,

 

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no, I don't.

 

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I know they have been but a lot of times

 

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when they come to the training,

 

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I'm really amazed, too, because I think

 

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I think I've seen a change in training

 

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where before, you know, maybe five or six,

seven years ago,

 

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guys were kind of forced

to come to training.

 

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And it's not like that.

 

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At all anymore.

 

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It's like guys

have put this on their calendar.

 

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Like they've been looking forward

to this training

 

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because I think coming to the training

 

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is also a little bit of that break

where they're just

 

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pound in pound

and pound in no time to catch your breath.

 

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So eight days like.

 

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That.

 

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So I was in a I was in Seattle this week

 

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and I was doing a training

and on and on adhesives.

 

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And there was a guy in a classroom

was yawning

 

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like every, every few minutes

he was yawning.

 

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And. He was trying his best

not to yawn in front of me, you know.

 

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What I mean?

 

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And I felt for him because I've we've

all we've all been there

 

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and he's like looking away.

 

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He's looking down there at anybody.

 

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He's dying. He wants to fall asleep.

 

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So but see the neck muscles right here

straight. Yes.

 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

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And he was trying so bad.

 

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So when I got done,

 

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he came up to me.

 

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He goes, hey, man, I apologize. Man.

 

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I'll stand outside.

I'm just I'm just tired.

 

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And I said nothing.

 

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You know, I started laughing as a dude.

 

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You don't have to apologize

for anything, man.

 

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I know it's not me.

 

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It's you.

 

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There's no way it can be.

 

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Come on.

 

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How can I tell you what, though?

 

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I do feel for

the guys who come to training.

 

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They'll train all day long, give it their

all, and then go to work that night.

 

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Yeah.

 

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And you see that a lot where they're not

traveling, where they're local.

 

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I've seen a lot of guys

in, you know, that's.

 

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That's a floor man. That's. Yeah, yeah.

 

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That's the floor, man. And, you know.

 

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All right,

so let's talk about signs of burnout.

 

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You sent me a list

 

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that was describe describing me every day.

 

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I think.

 

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I think this is my natural state.

 

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As I was writing this up,

I was like, yeah, we we

 

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we way.

 

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Yeah, yeah.

 

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I mean, when you start

really looking at these

 

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it's almost like another top

ten list of signs of burnout.

 

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Huh? Well, and for people

that own their own business, I mean,

 

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gosh, we both have you know,

 

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we know that that that routine man and I

 

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it is no surprise or shock at all.

 

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I see a lot of business

owners are in a constant

 

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state of burnout, a lot of their lives,

you know what I mean?

 

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Especially with lack of employees

and what have you. So

 

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I talk to you and you do the same, talk to

people, say, oh, we don't work weekends.

 

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And I never knew how it was possible

to be in this business.

 

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And I work weekends. I, I admire them.

 

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I think they're so lucky

 

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and probably smart to do that

because we worked a ton of weekends

 

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and you keep doing that.

 

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I don't care how, you know, nobody

superhuman it's going to affect you.

 

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But let's look

at some of the signs of of a burnout

 

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and then maybe talk

about some ways around it

 

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because I do have some things that

definitely is helped me over the years.

 

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So go ahead.

 

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All right.

 

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No one, headaches.

 

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You see, I'm drinking.

 

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Water right now. Yes.

 

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I used to get headaches all the time.

 

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And finally I went to a doctor

and he asked me how much water I drink.

 

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And you go, you are not even coming close

to the amount of water.

 

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You need to drink and.

 

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You really,

really need to drink a lot more. Water.

 

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And I make an effort now to do that.

 

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So if you do get a lot of headaches,

being dehydrated

 

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is a real thing and it affects you.

 

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And it it definitely has helped my life,

 

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just a small thing,

but in a way, it's a big thing.

 

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So headaches is a big time sign.

 

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You know something I can't believe

you're you said water because

 

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that was something that changed

 

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my life was drinking

more water than coffee in a day.

 

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You know, I'm a huge coffee drinker.

 

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And how many how many bottles of water

you drink a day?

 

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I drink six. I try to do six to eight.

 

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Now, a day when I would go days

without drinking any water.

 

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I was like a chem pro, right?

 

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Yeah.

 

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But now,

 

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you know the funny part

about drinking water all the time

 

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now right away, I know when I got to drink

water, I feel it.

 

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Well, I tell you, you're

going to go a different way and I'll go

 

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that way as you get older.

 

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Like, if I know I'm going to be on a plane

flight, I ain't drinking no.

 

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Water.

 

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Because I've and, you know, every night

I got to get up twice to go pee,

 

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it seems like.

 

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And if I get on a flight now,

I'm not I'm not drinking water.

 

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But when it gets close to the time

you get to.

 

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Get on a plane.

 

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Wow, that's really showing your age there.

 

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Well.

 

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I'm just trying to be real.

 

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Yeah. Yeah, all right.

 

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Where are you

going to go? To the bathroom.

 

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Number two on your

 

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list, I see is negativity.

 

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Don't you look at me.

 

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00:10:43,009 --> 00:10:45,111

You look at me.

 

235

00:10:45,244 --> 00:10:47,313

That negativity overly critical?

 

236

00:10:47,313 --> 00:10:51,050

No, Wayne, I'm looking

just over your shoulder.

 

237

00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:53,152

I wouldn't

stare at you for something like that.

 

238

00:10:53,152 --> 00:10:55,688

All right. Appreciate that.

 

239

00:10:55,688 --> 00:10:56,756

Yeah, it's on.

 

240

00:10:56,756 --> 00:10:59,191

It's bound to it's about bound affect you.

 

241

00:10:59,525 --> 00:11:02,495

And which means that it also more

than likely affects other people.

 

242

00:11:03,729 --> 00:11:06,065

So negativity and being overly critical.

 

243

00:11:06,632 --> 00:11:09,935

And I can't wait till we get to the

to the things you can do to to

 

244

00:11:09,969 --> 00:11:11,504

kind of get out of this.

 

245

00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:13,773

Oh, I got a bunch of good ones. Yeah.

 

246

00:11:13,773 --> 00:11:16,609

So hang in there because.

 

247

00:11:16,742 --> 00:11:19,412

Yeah, we start off with the negatives,

but yeah,

 

248

00:11:19,612 --> 00:11:22,548

we're going to leave you on a high note.

 

249

00:11:24,617 --> 00:11:28,688

The next one is unexplained exhaustion and

 

250

00:11:30,222 --> 00:11:32,625

you're you know how

 

251

00:11:32,658 --> 00:11:34,560

you got to get to that floor, Cody?

 

252

00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,263

It is, you know, it's a thousand

square feet and you got to get it coated.

 

253

00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:41,534

Monday, you're busting, you know,

you got to get a certain point in Tuesday,

 

254

00:11:41,767 --> 00:11:44,336

and you just came from back to back.

You didn't have any days off.

 

255

00:11:44,336 --> 00:11:48,374

And you ever get to that one day where

now you just got to put the coat on,

 

256

00:11:48,374 --> 00:11:50,009

but you're so tired,

 

257

00:11:50,009 --> 00:11:52,378

you know, I mean, you're just it's all

you could do to get that coat on.

 

258

00:11:52,378 --> 00:11:54,747

And even after that,

you really haven't done much that day.

 

259

00:11:54,747 --> 00:11:56,348

You're just. Tired.

 

260

00:11:56,348 --> 00:12:00,486

Your body needs it needs a chance

to catch up mentally and physically.

 

261

00:12:01,020 --> 00:12:04,523

So these things are and then if this keeps

going on another week,

 

262

00:12:04,690 --> 00:12:07,560

another week, it's just not any fun.

 

263

00:12:07,993 --> 00:12:11,130

And I feel guilty saying this

because I know a lot of four guys now.

 

264

00:12:11,330 --> 00:12:13,099

Well, what am I supposed to do?

 

265

00:12:13,099 --> 00:12:15,101

I don't I mean, I got to get these jobs.

I don't have any help.

 

266

00:12:15,101 --> 00:12:17,203

And I totally, totally respect that.

 

267

00:12:17,203 --> 00:12:20,106

And I was that that guy, too. So but.

 

268

00:12:20,606 --> 00:12:24,810

Unexplained exhaustion,

you know, it's funny because now when I

 

269

00:12:26,011 --> 00:12:28,581

we sit down and watch Netflix,

my wife and I

 

270

00:12:28,981 --> 00:12:30,249

and the C A series, you know,

 

271

00:12:30,249 --> 00:12:33,119

we binge watch something and she goes,

what do you want to watch next?

 

272

00:12:33,419 --> 00:12:34,453

I know you might as well pick it

 

273

00:12:34,453 --> 00:12:36,722

because I fall asleep 15 minutes

into every episode.

 

274

00:12:38,357 --> 00:12:41,160

And. I've I'll,

I'll start watching something.

 

275

00:12:41,460 --> 00:12:43,062

And a brand new series of.

 

276

00:12:43,062 --> 00:12:45,731

All right, brand new series.

Okay, come. On, we stay awake.

 

277

00:12:45,998 --> 00:12:47,099

All right, go.

 

278

00:12:47,099 --> 00:12:49,568

If you turn it on like 50 minutes

like the episode is over.

 

279

00:12:49,568 --> 00:12:51,170

I wake up, it's over and I.

 

280

00:12:51,170 --> 00:12:53,906

Oh well shoot

she's watch another show now so.

 

281

00:12:55,141 --> 00:12:59,011

I don't have Paulie

and I do not have the only

 

282

00:13:00,146 --> 00:13:02,782

I've seen Pauline get get ready for bed

 

283

00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:06,619

when it's the lighter

I've seen her just look at me

 

284

00:13:06,619 --> 00:13:10,956

and I can tell to

I can tell her face starts to droop.

 

285

00:13:12,124 --> 00:13:14,260

As. Soon as I see that droopy face.

 

286

00:13:14,293 --> 00:13:15,995

Mike and I

 

287

00:13:17,429 --> 00:13:18,330

happened last night.

 

288

00:13:18,330 --> 00:13:19,732

I looked at her. I started laughing.

 

289

00:13:19,732 --> 00:13:22,201

I go, Wow,

the troops are coming in early today.

 

290

00:13:22,201 --> 00:13:23,469

She goes, Yeah,

 

291

00:13:23,903 --> 00:13:26,105

you know, because she watches the boys

during the day.

 

292

00:13:26,105 --> 00:13:26,839

Yeah.

 

293

00:13:26,839 --> 00:13:31,811

And, you know, one is one is three

and the other is five.

 

294

00:13:32,344 --> 00:13:34,580

And they just want to run, you know, they

 

295

00:13:35,347 --> 00:13:38,017

they don't want to sit and read all day.

 

296

00:13:38,017 --> 00:13:39,385

They're in the pool. They're right.

 

297

00:13:39,385 --> 00:13:42,421

I mean, so I could tell she gets tired

 

298

00:13:43,255 --> 00:13:45,624

and but the joke was last night,

 

299

00:13:47,526 --> 00:13:49,662

I said, well,

it looks like you're going to bed droops.

 

300

00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:52,598

And she goes, How many more records

are you going to watch tonight?

 

301

00:13:52,598 --> 00:13:57,903

I said, I got to watch Three Creatures

tonight and and then I'm done. So

 

302

00:13:59,338 --> 00:14:00,506

that's the way you roll.

 

303

00:14:00,506 --> 00:14:03,175

So maybe Judy and I should hang out

and you and Paul

 

304

00:14:03,209 --> 00:14:05,811

link and hit the hay kind of early.

 

305

00:14:06,245 --> 00:14:07,713

There you go. Yeah.

 

306

00:14:07,713 --> 00:14:09,582

Have you seen you.

 

307

00:14:09,582 --> 00:14:12,017

Know, I've been hearing about it,

but I have not seen it.

 

308

00:14:12,151 --> 00:14:13,185

Is it a good.

 

309

00:14:13,185 --> 00:14:15,754

It was it was awesome.

 

310

00:14:15,754 --> 00:14:18,591

Matter of fact, I finished it last night,

 

311

00:14:18,591 --> 00:14:21,894

and I was like, oh, man, I can't

wait to get into the second season.

 

312

00:14:21,894 --> 00:14:24,663

I thought it's been around forever.

 

313

00:14:24,663 --> 00:14:26,465

It just came in this year.

 

314

00:14:26,465 --> 00:14:31,403

The next season two doesn't

come out till winter of 23.

 

315

00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:34,173

So yeah. Yeah.

 

316

00:14:34,173 --> 00:14:34,540

All right.

 

317

00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:36,775

Let's, let's through

some of these pretty quickly.

 

318

00:14:36,976 --> 00:14:39,812

And to say

because they're, they're depressing

 

319

00:14:42,681 --> 00:14:43,916

irritability.

 

320

00:14:43,916 --> 00:14:46,585

Yeah. Irritability. Yeah.

 

321

00:14:47,219 --> 00:14:48,721

Wasn't that just kind of irritating?

 

322

00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:49,622

You write that.

 

323

00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:51,824

A. Little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

324

00:14:51,824 --> 00:14:55,327

I feel like we need to pick it up,

but I didn't want to be overly critical

 

325

00:14:55,327 --> 00:14:56,629

or negative about it. But

 

326

00:14:58,163 --> 00:14:59,565

this is really going to change you.

 

327

00:14:59,565 --> 00:15:03,002

I think you're going to really start

to look like maybe so.

 

328

00:15:03,669 --> 00:15:06,405

But, you know, we keep talking about this

and now I'm thinking,

 

329

00:15:06,872 --> 00:15:09,141

well,

what are the guys on your team look like?

 

330

00:15:09,141 --> 00:15:10,442

What are the guys on your crew?

 

331

00:15:10,442 --> 00:15:12,645

Are they going through this?

 

332

00:15:12,778 --> 00:15:15,080

No, big kind of character changes.

 

333

00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,249

You know, for a guy who's

 

334

00:15:17,249 --> 00:15:21,186

always a glass half full guy,

as he turned into a glass Seth,

 

335

00:15:21,654 --> 00:15:25,024

because if he has, it's

definitely going to affect his work.

 

336

00:15:25,491 --> 00:15:26,592

Absolutely.

 

337

00:15:26,592 --> 00:15:29,028

I've got the greatest bunch of guys

to work with. Rob.

 

338

00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:30,529

I'm so blessed, man.

 

339

00:15:30,529 --> 00:15:33,499

And I just hired another guy

 

340

00:15:33,499 --> 00:15:37,770

up in the Seattle area, Oregon, Portland,

Western Canada.

 

341

00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:39,238

He's a phenomenal rep.

 

342

00:15:39,238 --> 00:15:41,073

He's going to be a stud man.

 

343

00:15:41,073 --> 00:15:44,543

And I just look around the room when I

when I pinch myself.

 

344

00:15:44,543 --> 00:15:46,412

My guys are just great.

 

345

00:15:46,412 --> 00:15:49,548

I have no reason to complain

in the good guys.

 

346

00:15:50,049 --> 00:15:52,551

You hire a Canadian. Now he's American,

 

347

00:15:54,086 --> 00:15:56,121

you'll go up into Canada.

 

348

00:15:56,155 --> 00:15:57,122

But no.

 

349

00:15:57,122 --> 00:15:58,991

So, you know, we manage it pretty well.

 

350

00:15:58,991 --> 00:16:02,161

We we talk about a lot and there's a lot

on their plates, as you know.

 

351

00:16:02,995 --> 00:16:06,565

But, you know, we get through it.

 

352

00:16:06,565 --> 00:16:08,667

You got a great team.

 

353

00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:10,836

You really do. Have a great team.

 

354

00:16:10,836 --> 00:16:13,105

All you need to do

is get rid of Mark Raymond.

 

355

00:16:13,105 --> 00:16:17,042

And your team is the best team in Bowen,

don't you think?

 

356

00:16:17,343 --> 00:16:18,110

I won't.

 

357

00:16:18,110 --> 00:16:20,312

I'll never let him quit.

 

358

00:16:21,947 --> 00:16:24,516

If he sends me his resignation letter,

I'm going to stay.

 

359

00:16:24,583 --> 00:16:26,719

I'm going to refuse it. Yeah.

 

360

00:16:26,719 --> 00:16:28,988

No, you're not quitting. No.

 

361

00:16:29,755 --> 00:16:32,691

Only guy couldn't quit a job.

 

362

00:16:33,225 --> 00:16:34,159

Not going to let it happen.

 

363

00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:36,795

Wayne, I'm giving you my two weeks

notice. I'm sorry.

 

364

00:16:36,795 --> 00:16:39,064

I cannot accept that the. Hell you are.

 

365

00:16:41,734 --> 00:16:42,134

All right.

 

366

00:16:42,134 --> 00:16:45,137

What else? Insomnia changes in

sleep habits.

 

367

00:16:45,637 --> 00:16:49,441

Yeah, the sign of burnout. Yep.

 

368

00:16:49,908 --> 00:16:51,910

Again, when you look at me for.

 

369

00:16:52,711 --> 00:16:55,014

Well, I was thinking, you know,

 

370

00:16:56,215 --> 00:16:58,350

maybe I have a cat sometimes, you know,

 

371

00:16:59,151 --> 00:17:02,287

I'll toss

and turn for two or 3 minutes a night

 

372

00:17:02,287 --> 00:17:05,491

and just don't know what I'm going to do,

you know.

 

373

00:17:05,791 --> 00:17:07,126

Two or 3 minutes.

 

374

00:17:07,126 --> 00:17:09,228

Yeah. Yeah. Do you sleep good?

 

375

00:17:09,661 --> 00:17:13,132

Oh, man, I sleep really good.

 

376

00:17:13,132 --> 00:17:14,900

Try falling crazy.

 

377

00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:17,169

I think you've got a charmed life.

 

378

00:17:17,169 --> 00:17:18,337

I really do.

 

379

00:17:18,337 --> 00:17:20,773

Yeah. I absolutely do.

 

380

00:17:21,407 --> 00:17:22,574

You're. You're younger than me.

 

381

00:17:22,574 --> 00:17:25,944

I don't want to ask your age,

but you're six on 60.

 

382

00:17:25,944 --> 00:17:28,047

We did a whole show about me, so you're.

 

383

00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:29,648

You're a little bit younger than me.

 

384

00:17:29,648 --> 00:17:31,483

I don't sleep very well at all.

 

385

00:17:32,518 --> 00:17:33,152

I just.

 

386

00:17:33,152 --> 00:17:34,553

I don't know why it's not.

 

387

00:17:34,553 --> 00:17:35,354

I don't think it's work related.

 

388

00:17:35,354 --> 00:17:37,890

I just think it's, like, related.

 

389

00:17:39,091 --> 00:17:40,893

Have you ever slept well?

 

390

00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:41,827

Yeah, I did.

 

391

00:17:41,827 --> 00:17:44,430

When I was a flooring contractor,

I slept. I slept well.

 

392

00:17:44,430 --> 00:17:47,466

But as I've gotten older, it's less

 

393

00:17:47,466 --> 00:17:48,667

and less so

 

394

00:17:51,170 --> 00:17:51,937

physically ill.

 

395

00:17:51,937 --> 00:17:53,939

Do we talk about that one?

 

396

00:17:55,641 --> 00:17:57,242

No. We didn't hit physical.

 

397

00:17:57,242 --> 00:17:59,244

Yeah. Yes.

 

398

00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:01,313

That one is another sign.

 

399

00:18:01,313 --> 00:18:03,482

Inadequate ness and hopelessness.

 

400

00:18:06,218 --> 00:18:06,785

Yeah.

 

401

00:18:06,785 --> 00:18:07,986

I mean, that's that's.

 

402

00:18:07,986 --> 00:18:10,556

I hope that's later stages of burnout.

 

403

00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:17,629

Being numb and apathetic.

 

404

00:18:17,629 --> 00:18:19,164

I think that all. All plays it.

 

405

00:18:19,164 --> 00:18:20,999

Okay, so we got it all out there, right?

 

406

00:18:20,999 --> 00:18:24,002

No, we didn't I think my favorite one,

 

407

00:18:25,204 --> 00:18:28,674

especially looking right at you,

endless anxiety.

 

408

00:18:28,974 --> 00:18:31,710

Yeah, it all comes with the territory.

 

409

00:18:31,710 --> 00:18:35,147

I mean, so you could,

you could change that word anxiety

 

410

00:18:35,147 --> 00:18:39,017

and, and,

and put it concern in there and work.

 

411

00:18:39,017 --> 00:18:41,820

And then I don't think there's

a lot of things in that word. Anxiety.

 

412

00:18:41,820 --> 00:18:44,289

I don't think you're

all bad. That's just part of.

 

413

00:18:45,858 --> 00:18:46,692

You know, no.

 

414

00:18:46,892 --> 00:18:49,027

You know. Preparation.

 

415

00:18:49,027 --> 00:18:51,630

Talking about your sleep habits.

 

416

00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:53,298

Where were you sleeping? In California.

 

417

00:18:53,298 --> 00:18:54,733

I know you're in your home.

 

418

00:18:54,733 --> 00:18:57,002

Was that your mother in law's house? Yes.

 

419

00:18:58,337 --> 00:19:00,639

All right. You have a nice bed.

 

420

00:19:00,639 --> 00:19:04,009

All right. Easy

 

421

00:19:05,277 --> 00:19:06,478

it's gone, man.

 

422

00:19:06,478 --> 00:19:09,548

Okay, okay.

 

423

00:19:09,615 --> 00:19:14,086

Okay. So.

 

424

00:19:15,954 --> 00:19:17,923

No, there was no furniture in the house.

 

425

00:19:17,923 --> 00:19:19,158

No furniture.

 

426

00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:21,160

Now, Z, no factor in the house.

 

427

00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,262

I'm going to. Go. Where were you sleeping.

 

428

00:19:24,096 --> 00:19:24,897

For seven nights?

 

429

00:19:24,897 --> 00:19:28,233

I slept on the floor with a sleeping bag.

 

430

00:19:31,737 --> 00:19:33,872

Now I'm going to.

 

431

00:19:33,872 --> 00:19:36,842

I don't want to do this,

but I'm going to have to do this.

 

432

00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:39,811

Now that you brought this up, it's

not that I'm cheap.

 

433

00:19:40,412 --> 00:19:41,713

It's not that at all.

 

434

00:19:41,713 --> 00:19:45,150

And is that I look like this? If I spend.

 

435

00:19:45,150 --> 00:19:47,286

If I spent a night in

 

436

00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,690

in the Bay

Area, the hotel is going to cost me 175.

 

437

00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:53,058

200 bucks, right?

 

438

00:19:53,058 --> 00:19:55,093

Yeah. Okay.

 

439

00:19:55,527 --> 00:19:57,062

Because I wasn't working

 

440

00:19:57,062 --> 00:19:59,331

because five of those days

I was on vacation.

 

441

00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:03,268

If I can make one sacrifice

 

442

00:20:04,069 --> 00:20:07,506

and and not get a hotel

because he hasn't shower there

 

443

00:20:08,140 --> 00:20:11,076

and sleep on the floor,

I give that money to an animal shelter.

 

444

00:20:11,677 --> 00:20:13,712

And that way that's that's.

 

445

00:20:13,712 --> 00:20:16,381

Oh, I don't have to.

 

446

00:20:16,381 --> 00:20:17,883

So I don't make that big deal.

 

447

00:20:17,883 --> 00:20:20,652

But that's, that's just that's why so.

 

448

00:20:21,453 --> 00:20:24,056

But I'll tell you what I missed

 

449

00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:27,659

when I finally got to a hotel

and got into bed it was pretty damn nice.

 

450

00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:28,627

I didn't.

 

451

00:20:28,627 --> 00:20:32,931

I can't believe you didn't buy

a camping cot or inflatable bed

 

452

00:20:32,931 --> 00:20:33,932

or something like that.

 

453

00:20:33,932 --> 00:20:36,602

You just sat out on the floor yeah.

 

454

00:20:36,602 --> 00:20:38,103

But you know what, man?

 

455

00:20:38,103 --> 00:20:38,904

That's okay.

 

456

00:20:38,904 --> 00:20:41,406

I don't heard sacrifice

once in a while, man.

 

457

00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,942

If you don't see the.

 

458

00:20:43,942 --> 00:20:45,944

The if you if you.

 

459

00:20:45,944 --> 00:20:48,914

Never had any rain, you'd never appreciate

the sunshine or whatever they say it is.

 

460

00:20:49,281 --> 00:20:51,750

I got. I had no problem, ma'am.

 

461

00:20:52,084 --> 00:20:53,185

I was totally fine with it.

 

462

00:20:53,185 --> 00:20:57,122

Yeah, you get some

you get some hobo when you man.

 

463

00:20:58,056 --> 00:20:59,558

Yeah, a little bit.

 

464

00:20:59,558 --> 00:21:00,892

I mean,

 

465

00:21:01,627 --> 00:21:05,864

you slept on the floor

a lot when you're with bone.

 

466

00:21:06,465 --> 00:21:08,634

Oh, when I had my training centers.

 

467

00:21:08,634 --> 00:21:10,235

Yes. Yes.

 

468

00:21:10,235 --> 00:21:13,772

I'll never forget the first time I walked

into that training center and I saw a bed

 

469

00:21:15,140 --> 00:21:17,476

that you had an inflatable bed

or something in there?

 

470

00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:21,780

No, it was an inflatable one,

but it was like it rolled out

 

471

00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:23,949

and kind of puffed up

 

472

00:21:28,186 --> 00:21:30,255

I spent a lot of nights.

 

473

00:21:30,255 --> 00:21:34,192

You spent a ton of nights

sleeping in there.

 

474

00:21:34,192 --> 00:21:36,995

I couldn't believe it.

 

475

00:21:36,995 --> 00:21:40,499

I remember the one night

I really felt bad for you,

 

476

00:21:40,999 --> 00:21:43,235

and I said, you know,

my room has two beds.

 

477

00:21:43,235 --> 00:21:45,337

You're more than welcome. To join me and

 

478

00:21:46,972 --> 00:21:50,442

not sure why it didn't,

but you stuck it out again, man.

 

479

00:21:52,611 --> 00:21:53,111

I've slept.

 

480

00:21:53,111 --> 00:21:55,947

I've slept in the spirit of

in many nights.

 

481

00:21:56,281 --> 00:21:57,416

Out, like out.

 

482

00:21:57,416 --> 00:22:01,753

In Arkansas between hotels or whatever

it was, or it's like by the time

 

483

00:22:01,753 --> 00:22:03,021

I get somewhere,

it's like two in the morning.

 

484

00:22:03,021 --> 00:22:05,023

I'm living at a hotel,

pay 20 bucks to in the morning.

 

485

00:22:05,791 --> 00:22:09,161

I got to get up in three or 4 hours,

so I slept back in the bed.

 

486

00:22:09,828 --> 00:22:12,030

All right, so look.

 

487

00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:13,098

I don't do that anymore.

 

488

00:22:13,098 --> 00:22:15,167

You know, the worst place I ever slept.

 

489

00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:16,001

Were.

 

490

00:22:16,435 --> 00:22:19,538

Chicago Midway Airport.

 

491

00:22:19,538 --> 00:22:22,074

I've spent a lot of nights in airports Oh.

 

492

00:22:22,474 --> 00:22:23,342

Yeah.

 

493

00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,944

That's misery. That was.

 

494

00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:27,179

That was misery.

 

495

00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:29,481

That was that one point.

 

496

00:22:29,481 --> 00:22:31,516

I just sat up and said,

All right, forget it.

 

497

00:22:31,516 --> 00:22:33,752

Well, yeah,

I do. Lay down anymore. This is.

 

498

00:22:34,553 --> 00:22:37,389

And then you start walking around,

you just start to kill it.

 

499

00:22:37,389 --> 00:22:38,957

I walk around.

 

500

00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:39,257

Like.

 

501

00:22:39,257 --> 00:22:42,027

A loser because you can't

sleep everything's closed.

 

502

00:22:43,462 --> 00:22:45,297

All right, so.

 

503

00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:48,033

Talk about ways to overcome.

 

504

00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:50,469

100%. There's different stages of burnout.

 

505

00:22:50,469 --> 00:22:52,704

You won't talk about those first

or I didn't.

 

506

00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:54,339

Know there was different stages.

 

507

00:22:54,339 --> 00:22:58,910

Yeah, but we we can bypass them

because they're also doesn't matter.

 

508

00:22:58,910 --> 00:23:00,912

They're all kind of depressing to so.

 

509

00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,883

So how do you

how do you get past them, Rob?

 

510

00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:07,386

Well, I'm going to just bang off like

 

511

00:23:09,988 --> 00:23:10,622

they're paying off

 

512

00:23:10,622 --> 00:23:14,326

for right away to help you get past

this depression.

 

513

00:23:14,326 --> 00:23:17,796

I'm just going to go through these quick,

you know, start drinking heavily

 

514

00:23:18,430 --> 00:23:20,065

illegal drugs.

 

515

00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:20,332

Yeah.

 

516

00:23:20,332 --> 00:23:25,337

It's maybe taken up smoking and, you know,

just eat a ton of food after midnight.

 

517

00:23:25,937 --> 00:23:27,372

Like, all good stuff.

 

518

00:23:27,372 --> 00:23:28,907

Huh? There you go. Stuff.

 

519

00:23:28,907 --> 00:23:31,209

I mean, I just cured everybody.

 

520

00:23:31,209 --> 00:23:32,644

Very, very short term.

 

521

00:23:34,980 --> 00:23:36,848

But all this stuff

 

522

00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:38,784

All right.

 

523

00:23:39,484 --> 00:23:40,585

Let me throw you go ahead.

 

524

00:23:40,585 --> 00:23:42,788

Throw one out there, and I'll do it.

I'll do the same.

 

525

00:23:43,155 --> 00:23:43,655

Okay.

 

526

00:23:43,655 --> 00:23:46,057

As I you know, when we were writing this,

I thought,

 

527

00:23:46,558 --> 00:23:48,560

oh, this is just way too negative.

 

528

00:23:49,227 --> 00:23:51,096

I'm going to look into

some of the positives.

 

529

00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:55,333

Well, this one,

I really liked to talk to someone

 

530

00:23:55,333 --> 00:23:57,903

close to you that you can brainstorm with

 

531

00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:01,473

the family friend. A loved one.

 

532

00:24:01,473 --> 00:24:04,776

I know this ain't your deal, man.

 

533

00:24:04,776 --> 00:24:05,877

Go ahead.

 

534

00:24:06,011 --> 00:24:07,412

No, it's not.

 

535

00:24:07,412 --> 00:24:09,281

Well, you said brainstorm.

 

536

00:24:09,281 --> 00:24:11,383

Now, brainstorm is different then,

 

537

00:24:11,383 --> 00:24:14,553

so because you said brainstorm

might be might I might be okay with it.

 

538

00:24:15,353 --> 00:24:16,254

Thank you.

 

539

00:24:18,690 --> 00:24:20,125

You didn't like that one, though, did you?

 

540

00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:21,326

I can tell.

 

541

00:24:21,526 --> 00:24:22,661

I'd be concerned if I.

 

542

00:24:22,661 --> 00:24:24,863

If I get on phone. Go. Hey, man, I'm.

I don't know.

 

543

00:24:24,896 --> 00:24:25,964

I really feeling kind of.

 

544

00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:28,800

Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry.

 

545

00:24:29,034 --> 00:24:31,102

Sorry. Oh, look at the time. I got to go.

 

546

00:24:31,102 --> 00:24:34,306

No way would I ever do something like that

on the phone.

 

547

00:24:34,773 --> 00:24:36,842

Okay,

you know, why? Because men don't do that,

 

548

00:24:38,410 --> 00:24:38,877

all right?

 

549

00:24:38,877 --> 00:24:40,545

Men don't do that. That's a problem.

 

550

00:24:40,545 --> 00:24:44,683

That's why men don't age very well

in major men later in life, in society,

 

551

00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:47,819

we don't do fair as well as women.

 

552

00:24:47,819 --> 00:24:51,256

So you are you are right to do that.

 

553

00:24:52,224 --> 00:24:53,658

To be a man.

 

554

00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:57,796

But really, it's good for you.

 

555

00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:00,932

I don't think I'm being

a very good psychiatrist.

 

556

00:25:00,932 --> 00:25:02,734

Look, man, you got to man up.

 

557

00:25:02,734 --> 00:25:03,668

I mean, all right,

 

558

00:25:03,668 --> 00:25:06,338

you know, I'm hearing your problems

with your me, but no one else wants to.

 

559

00:25:06,371 --> 00:25:07,205

You promise me.

 

560

00:25:07,205 --> 00:25:09,608

Have you seen this guy in an Instagram

call?

 

561

00:25:09,641 --> 00:25:11,877

Be a man. No.

 

562

00:25:11,877 --> 00:25:12,577

Be a man.

 

563

00:25:12,577 --> 00:25:15,514

Mafia. No.

 

564

00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:18,283

Ravi, the kid you used to work with me

he's now pm.

 

565

00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:21,319

He sends me this. It's a guy from Boston.

 

566

00:25:21,353 --> 00:25:24,589

He sends me this thing, and he goes,

this guy is you.

 

567

00:25:25,390 --> 00:25:26,958

He goes, you got to start watching it.

 

568

00:25:26,958 --> 00:25:30,562

Okay? It's called Boston VA. Man one word.

 

569

00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:32,397

And the guy just

 

570

00:25:32,397 --> 00:25:36,001

gets up there

and he does like a 22nd clip, like

 

571

00:25:37,335 --> 00:25:38,703

I'll say one.

 

572

00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:41,773

If you're having

a heart attack at the gym,

 

573

00:25:41,773 --> 00:25:43,441

finish your workout.

 

574

00:25:43,441 --> 00:25:44,142

You may.

 

575

00:25:44,142 --> 00:25:44,943

Yeah.

 

576

00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:50,348

If you go into Home Depot

and you buy a bunch of lumber,

 

577

00:25:50,715 --> 00:25:54,185

don't use a cart,

put it on your shoulder, be a man.

 

578

00:25:54,686 --> 00:25:56,555

Nice and I started.

 

579

00:25:56,555 --> 00:26:00,559

You know, you get really

you start watching these and

 

580

00:26:01,793 --> 00:26:05,263

it's kind of funny because there's a lot

that I know that you would go,

 

581

00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:06,932

oh my God, that's me.

 

582

00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:07,766

I'll have to.

 

583

00:26:07,899 --> 00:26:09,901

I'll check that out.

That actually sounds pretty damn funny.

 

584

00:26:09,901 --> 00:26:12,671

It's called Boston Be a man one word

 

585

00:26:13,338 --> 00:26:15,874

and it's absolutely crack up.

 

586

00:26:16,074 --> 00:26:18,343

I mean, it's it's some funny stuff.

 

587

00:26:18,743 --> 00:26:19,311

You know,

 

588

00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:23,048

I used to travel with a guy that,

you know how bags have rollers on him now?

 

589

00:26:23,715 --> 00:26:24,215

Yeah.

 

590

00:26:24,215 --> 00:26:26,885

Airports that he would never use them.

 

591

00:26:26,885 --> 00:26:27,085

Right.

 

592

00:26:28,787 --> 00:26:31,256

Because he thought it was like,

 

593

00:26:31,256 --> 00:26:33,458

you know, man doesn't,

you know do that you.

 

594

00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:36,294

Get that could be a be a man, right? Yeah.

 

595

00:26:37,095 --> 00:26:39,264

But okay.

 

596

00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:40,832

So what did you say?

 

597

00:26:40,832 --> 00:26:42,534

Call someone and brainstorm with them.

 

598

00:26:42,534 --> 00:26:44,369

Call someone, brainstorm. Hey.

 

599

00:26:44,369 --> 00:26:44,903

Okay.

 

600

00:26:44,903 --> 00:26:45,437

Let them.

 

601

00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:48,106

Maybe they know something you don't know.

 

602

00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:51,409

This is how we're going to come back

 

603

00:26:51,843 --> 00:26:53,411

from batting.

 

604

00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:56,247

What's the name of this straight.

 

605

00:26:56,247 --> 00:26:57,549

Man, right?

 

606

00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:00,251

Yeah. Yeah.

 

607

00:27:00,251 --> 00:27:01,419

That's why I don't have burnout.

 

608

00:27:01,419 --> 00:27:02,387

I can't remember any.

 

609

00:27:02,387 --> 00:27:03,154

Yeah, there you go.

 

610

00:27:03,154 --> 00:27:06,157

Like, hey, every day's a new day.

 

611

00:27:06,157 --> 00:27:08,059

I'm going to say to combat burnout.

 

612

00:27:08,059 --> 00:27:10,428

I'm going to say something that

 

613

00:27:10,428 --> 00:27:11,296

you know, people.

 

614

00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:13,832

If you would have told me this

20 years ago, I went, Wow, I.

 

615

00:27:13,832 --> 00:27:15,834

Don't know about that. Go for a walk.

 

616

00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:19,938

I will tell you something.

 

617

00:27:19,938 --> 00:27:24,242

Over the weekend, I spent

I probably walked without exaggerating

 

618

00:27:24,242 --> 00:27:27,212

eight miles a day for two days of the days

I was on vacation.

 

619

00:27:27,912 --> 00:27:30,115

And Rob I'll tell you what,

 

620

00:27:30,115 --> 00:27:32,917

it has been the most relaxing thing

because and then I thought

 

621

00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:35,520

when I lived in California,

I would never go for a walk like this.

 

622

00:27:35,987 --> 00:27:36,821

I mean, look at my watch.

 

623

00:27:36,821 --> 00:27:38,289

I don't have that kind of time.

 

624

00:27:38,289 --> 00:27:40,592

I'm I thought. It would take too long.

 

625

00:27:40,592 --> 00:27:42,227

But but going for.

 

626

00:27:42,227 --> 00:27:45,063

A walk was actually very,

very nice and relaxing.

 

627

00:27:45,063 --> 00:27:47,899

And I appreciated play say zoom in the car

 

628

00:27:48,433 --> 00:27:51,536

now I'm walking and you know what I mean?

 

629

00:27:51,536 --> 00:27:54,239

And even though I walk fast, I.

 

630

00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:56,241

I really, really enjoy it.

 

631

00:27:56,241 --> 00:27:58,309

It was very relaxing to me.

 

632

00:27:58,309 --> 00:27:58,977

So I'm going put down.

 

633

00:27:58,977 --> 00:28:00,812

Walking is number one.

 

634

00:28:00,812 --> 00:28:03,181

I want you to back up a

little bit what you just said

 

635

00:28:04,182 --> 00:28:07,419

about you never had time to walk before.

 

636

00:28:08,787 --> 00:28:11,523

And that's kind of this whole thing

about burnout, right?

 

637

00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:14,559

You got to make some time here. Yeah.

 

638

00:28:15,126 --> 00:28:19,531

Or you're never going to get out of it

if you don't put aside some time

 

639

00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:23,101

to help

get out of the burnout circle here.

 

640

00:28:24,069 --> 00:28:25,603

Like, just like you

said, I'd look at my watch.

 

641

00:28:25,603 --> 00:28:27,972

I don't have time to go for a walk.

I got this, this, this, and this.

 

642

00:28:28,306 --> 00:28:29,274

Well, that's it.

 

643

00:28:29,274 --> 00:28:31,076

It's got you.

You're never going to get out.

 

644

00:28:31,076 --> 00:28:31,776

Yeah.

 

645

00:28:31,776 --> 00:28:34,612

Very, very, very well said.

 

646

00:28:34,779 --> 00:28:36,281

All right, let me go get.

 

647

00:28:36,281 --> 00:28:38,583

This sound surprised?

 

648

00:28:38,583 --> 00:28:40,185

Well, no, I'm not.

 

649

00:28:40,185 --> 00:28:41,853

Well, actually, kind of.

 

650

00:28:41,853 --> 00:28:44,389

Yeah, I thought that. Yeah.

 

651

00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:46,925

I can feel stuff. Yeah. Thanks.

 

652

00:28:46,925 --> 00:28:47,792

All right.

 

653

00:28:48,293 --> 00:28:49,894

What else read

 

654

00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:54,332

Pick up a book and read.

 

655

00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:57,001

Give you a little escape.

 

656

00:28:58,236 --> 00:29:01,005

I put down read a book as well.

 

657

00:29:01,005 --> 00:29:03,942

But if I'm stressed out,

 

658

00:29:03,942 --> 00:29:07,445

worry, whatever is very hard for me

to take the time to slow down and read

 

659

00:29:09,447 --> 00:29:11,416

I'm just thinking back to

when I was a contractor.

 

660

00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:13,518

I just

 

661

00:29:14,853 --> 00:29:18,056

I think I would have a hard time

with that one because that wouldn't that

 

662

00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:22,694

and this is a really good book,

but I think it's probably good advice.

 

663

00:29:22,694 --> 00:29:23,128

And, you know,

 

664

00:29:23,128 --> 00:29:24,295

I said I wrote the same thing

 

665

00:29:24,295 --> 00:29:27,899

down, too, but I honestly don't know

if I would do that one, just being.

 

666

00:29:27,899 --> 00:29:28,600

Honest.

 

667

00:29:29,501 --> 00:29:31,302

But you wrote that one down, too.

 

668

00:29:31,302 --> 00:29:33,638

Yeah. Yeah.

 

669

00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:34,439

All right.

 

670

00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,575

You know, it's going to be a raise

when the kids listen to this, say,

 

671

00:29:38,209 --> 00:29:40,612

you know, Dad, when's the last time you've

ever read a book?

 

672

00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:41,012

Was it

 

673

00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:42,514

just,

 

674

00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:44,849

you know,

this century or have you done one?

 

675

00:29:45,316 --> 00:29:45,917

Yeah.

 

676

00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:47,552

Well, I'll tell them.

 

677

00:29:47,552 --> 00:29:49,821

You know, I don't have that burnout thing.

Yeah.

 

678

00:29:49,954 --> 00:29:52,490

When it happens,

you'll read a book someday.

 

679

00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:53,525

Yeah, right.

 

680

00:29:54,092 --> 00:29:54,592

All right.

 

681

00:29:54,592 --> 00:29:59,130

The next one I definitely I like a lot

is listen to music,

 

682

00:29:59,130 --> 00:30:02,133

put the headphones

on, and I just going to surprise you.

 

683

00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:04,035

There's a. Movie.

 

684

00:30:04,035 --> 00:30:08,173

Called The Descendants,

and the soundtrack is Hawaiian music.

 

685

00:30:09,007 --> 00:30:12,277

And when I got back from work

the other day, Julie goes to

 

686

00:30:12,277 --> 00:30:14,512

you was listening to it outside,

and she had a drink.

 

687

00:30:14,512 --> 00:30:16,381

You know, she goes,

you won't make you drink as a great

 

688

00:30:16,381 --> 00:30:20,018

I mean, listen,

this music, I'll be damned if I just

 

689

00:30:20,218 --> 00:30:24,422

it was the most relaxing Hawaiian music

that I've ever heard.

 

690

00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:28,726

So the soundtrack is

called The Descendents. And

 

691

00:30:30,261 --> 00:30:30,862

I'm telling you,

 

692

00:30:30,862 --> 00:30:33,898

Rob, it was like I was in heaven

 

693

00:30:33,898 --> 00:30:35,200

and a lot of.

 

694

00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,235

It was in a movie.

 

695

00:30:37,235 --> 00:30:38,703

Yeah,

but I don't even know about the movie,

 

696

00:30:38,703 --> 00:30:43,174

but I just listen to the soundtrack,

and it was very relaxing, really nice.

 

697

00:30:43,741 --> 00:30:46,377

And now I'll give you

there's a caveat to that.

 

698

00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:49,747

I have a friend who's

going through some stuff

 

699

00:30:49,747 --> 00:30:53,117

right now

and I said, Hey, you know what, man?

 

700

00:30:53,117 --> 00:30:55,486

I listen, this man,

you might want to check this out.

 

701

00:30:55,486 --> 00:30:56,821

Maybe you like it.

 

702

00:30:56,821 --> 00:31:00,058

And I said, this text message was like,

 

703

00:31:00,391 --> 00:31:03,628

I don't like this whatsoever.

 

704

00:31:05,263 --> 00:31:07,232

So different strokes for different folks.

 

705

00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:11,369

But anyhow, listening to music of whatever

kind music has a great mood.

 

706

00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:15,506

Elevator or motivating or a or whatever.

 

707

00:31:16,474 --> 00:31:19,010

And to me it's I enjoy

 

708

00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:21,379

music a lot and that one does help me.

 

709

00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,882

Well, there's two that we both had.

 

710

00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:25,416

You were talking about walking.

 

711

00:31:26,618 --> 00:31:29,587

I had

put down exercise, so that's the same.

 

712

00:31:30,421 --> 00:31:33,892

And you just said music and I put down

 

713

00:31:34,626 --> 00:31:38,963

take a break from news and social media

and listen to some music.

 

714

00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:40,031

Okay.

 

715

00:31:40,031 --> 00:31:43,401

Well, you there's,

there's some stuff to talk about there.

 

716

00:31:43,434 --> 00:31:44,636

No one

 

717

00:31:45,036 --> 00:31:47,071

exercises different than walking to me

 

718

00:31:48,339 --> 00:31:50,074

because I also started

 

719

00:31:50,074 --> 00:31:52,410

going to the gym in the morning

every day about 5:00

 

720

00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:55,947

and that is definitely

 

721

00:31:55,947 --> 00:31:58,883

what when you get a bill for that

 

722

00:31:58,883 --> 00:31:59,317

every time.

 

723

00:31:59,317 --> 00:32:01,185

You mentioned your gym workout, I know.

 

724

00:32:01,185 --> 00:32:03,288

I call

 

725

00:32:04,188 --> 00:32:06,624

I'm telling you that is definitely helped

helped me.

 

726

00:32:07,258 --> 00:32:08,960

Number one, I'm up early in the morning.

 

727

00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,762

I feel like I'm done.

I'm ready to attack the day.

 

728

00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:11,930

I've got that out of the way.

 

729

00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:16,167

And I absolutely it made me feel a whole

lot better and I'm not lifting any more.

 

730

00:32:16,701 --> 00:32:18,069

I know you're it's hard to believe.

 

731

00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:19,904

Looking at me,

 

732

00:32:19,904 --> 00:32:23,775

but I only do the elliptical stuff

now or the treadmill

 

733

00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:27,712

or and I'm telling you, Rob,

it is definitely made me feel better.

 

734

00:32:27,745 --> 00:32:30,181

Are you sure you're not lifting the way

you're filling out that shirt?

 

735

00:32:30,348 --> 00:32:32,884

I know. I know. It's hard to believe.

 

736

00:32:32,884 --> 00:32:34,786

Tim. You're just naturally. Buff.

 

737

00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,789

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

738

00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:38,756

Not true.

 

739

00:32:39,057 --> 00:32:42,360

I'll tell you, I have one down

that you probably don't have down, but I

 

740

00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,464

did this the other day, and I'll be damned

if I really, really enjoyed it.

 

741

00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:49,233

Watch a kid's baseball game.

 

742

00:32:49,233 --> 00:32:50,935

Just go to a game.

 

743

00:32:50,935 --> 00:32:53,037

And sit down and watch kids enjoy the game

 

744

00:32:53,771 --> 00:32:56,941

because it reminds you

of when you were a kid.

 

745

00:32:56,941 --> 00:33:02,113

And you see, just just just the kids

just having a blast, man.

 

746

00:33:02,413 --> 00:33:04,582

And that's very relaxing to me.

 

747

00:33:04,582 --> 00:33:06,451

Listen, here's what I want you to do.

 

748

00:33:06,451 --> 00:33:08,219

He said you don't follow me on Instagram.

 

749

00:33:08,219 --> 00:33:09,620

I thought you did.

 

750

00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:10,321

Okay. Sorry.

 

751

00:33:10,321 --> 00:33:13,291

Well, you pull out your phone,

go to Instagram, look up

 

752

00:33:13,958 --> 00:33:16,361

Rob Johnson, 9663.

 

753

00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:18,596

Today, there's

 

754

00:33:18,596 --> 00:33:20,665

a picture of the little girl Charlotte.

 

755

00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:24,435

But I posted something over the weekend.

 

756

00:33:25,169 --> 00:33:27,972

I want you to take a look at it.

 

757

00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:33,911

Okay.

 

758

00:33:34,746 --> 00:33:36,814

It looks like I do follow you,

but I've never looked at

 

759

00:33:36,814 --> 00:33:39,050

any of your your stuff.

 

760

00:33:39,550 --> 00:33:41,652

Oh, hey. I got it. I see it.

 

761

00:33:41,652 --> 00:33:43,021

Read that.

 

762

00:33:43,388 --> 00:33:45,890

Well, I see the baby.

 

763

00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:47,258

Right? Yes.

 

764

00:33:47,258 --> 00:33:48,359

And there's nothing to read.

 

765

00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:49,660

It's videos.

 

766

00:33:50,528 --> 00:33:51,195

Really?

 

767

00:33:51,729 --> 00:33:53,598

Well, yeah.

 

768

00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:56,801

Other of my two kids,

my two grandsons playing baseball.

 

769

00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:58,569

Yeah, the picture of them.

 

770

00:33:58,569 --> 00:33:59,837

That's videos.

 

771

00:33:59,837 --> 00:34:02,273

Yeah. Oh, wait.

No, it's not a video. Sorry.

 

772

00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:04,442

Bittersweet into the season.

 

773

00:34:04,442 --> 00:34:08,446

You always hate when the season ends,

but what an ending looks, looks

 

774

00:34:08,513 --> 00:34:09,480

team was shorthanded.

 

775

00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,949

So Jack is the call to move up the mini

minors.

 

776

00:34:12,683 --> 00:34:14,986

The boys both went three for

three and now to each other.

 

777

00:34:16,621 --> 00:34:18,656

In for the RB.

 

778

00:34:18,656 --> 00:34:20,158

What a great end of the season.

 

779

00:34:20,158 --> 00:34:22,827

And Luke Ward Ted Williams

no this season great session.

 

780

00:34:23,027 --> 00:34:24,929

Very proud of you boys both.

 

781

00:34:24,929 --> 00:34:26,130

That's pretty cool.

 

782

00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:28,900

For the last 12 weeks

 

783

00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,069

I've got to spend every Sunday

at the Little League.

 

784

00:34:31,436 --> 00:34:35,006

When you were saying just going

and watching kids play baseball

 

785

00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:39,343

it was absolute heaven.

 

786

00:34:40,111 --> 00:34:40,745

Well.

 

787

00:34:40,812 --> 00:34:43,247

At school that was just.

 

788

00:34:43,247 --> 00:34:46,517

Yeah, you can't believe you wrote

that one down that's great. Yeah

 

789

00:34:47,552 --> 00:34:49,620

there's your other Instagram post

 

790

00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:52,090

I 60 Susan

I've been following you for a while.

 

791

00:34:52,156 --> 00:34:54,325

I've been reaching out to you

but you haven't returned

 

792

00:34:54,325 --> 00:34:58,396

any of my text messages or emails and

I sent you a lot of money in nothing yet.

 

793

00:34:59,297 --> 00:35:00,765

Yeah. What's up with that?

 

794

00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:03,034

I get these girls want to follow me

all the time.

 

795

00:35:03,534 --> 00:35:05,970

Nothing.

And they never get back to me. Okay.

 

796

00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,141

Go to a ball game.

 

797

00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:13,277

I think is a big deal.

 

798

00:35:13,277 --> 00:35:13,578

I mean.

 

799

00:35:13,578 --> 00:35:14,979

I mean, it was it was fun for me.

 

800

00:35:14,979 --> 00:35:17,281

I mean, I really enjoyed the how much fun.

 

801

00:35:17,281 --> 00:35:19,383

What I enjoyed was

how much the kids enjoyed it.

 

802

00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:21,385

So that was pretty cool.

 

803

00:35:21,385 --> 00:35:25,723

I think in all of these

that we're talking about, the main

 

804

00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:30,661

the main thing that they all have in

common is you have to carve out some time

 

805

00:35:30,661 --> 00:35:33,598

for yourself to decompress

and find out what you like to do.

 

806

00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:36,901

Sometimes people think it's alcohol

or drugs.

 

807

00:35:39,804 --> 00:35:41,539

I'm going into

 

808

00:35:42,907 --> 00:35:44,041

I. Wasn't

 

809

00:35:44,041 --> 00:35:46,043

going to go down this road of a PSA,

 

810

00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:50,982

but but I think it has to be said

that like even.

 

811

00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:52,416

Alcohol.

 

812

00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:54,919

Is a short term thing.

 

813

00:35:54,919 --> 00:35:57,421

It's not a great thing,

you know what I mean?

 

814

00:35:57,421 --> 00:36:01,392

I don't wanna be preachy, but how are you

laughing that this is good information.

 

815

00:36:03,127 --> 00:36:03,961

Because those are the ones

 

816

00:36:03,961 --> 00:36:08,099

that I gave in the beginning that was

that was supposed to be like a joke.

 

817

00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:09,734

Well, I know, I know.

 

818

00:36:09,734 --> 00:36:12,436

I liked it. You're

 

819

00:36:12,603 --> 00:36:14,705

I like where you're going

with this, though.

 

820

00:36:14,705 --> 00:36:16,841

You're right. Yeah, absolutely.

 

821

00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:19,076

I mean. People will think.

 

822

00:36:19,143 --> 00:36:21,012

I mean, that in the end,

that's a harmful habit.

 

823

00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:21,612

You know what I mean?

 

824

00:36:21,612 --> 00:36:22,580

What have you

 

825

00:36:23,114 --> 00:36:26,617

so called Rob Johnson and 976382.

 

826

00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:27,852

I'm kidding.

 

827

00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:32,423

But so any others things that might,

might look like they're they're

 

828

00:36:32,423 --> 00:36:36,661

helping the situation, but actually

in the end make it much, much worse.

 

829

00:36:37,261 --> 00:36:39,297

So for especially

 

830

00:36:40,298 --> 00:36:42,366

for the drug thing, you know.

 

831

00:36:43,701 --> 00:36:45,303

Stay away from those drugs, kids.

 

832

00:36:45,303 --> 00:36:46,804

Away from drugs. Yes.

 

833

00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:48,272

Yeah. Even so.

 

834

00:36:48,272 --> 00:36:51,242

Even smoking relaxes some people.

 

835

00:36:51,676 --> 00:36:53,978

But I'm not going to,

you know, whatever you want to smoke.

 

836

00:36:54,345 --> 00:36:56,914

Do you smoke? Go and smoke.

But to light them up.

 

837

00:36:56,914 --> 00:36:57,915

Yeah, I. Am up

 

838

00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:03,187

think I know where my next one is.

 

839

00:37:03,654 --> 00:37:04,722

My happy place.

 

840

00:37:04,722 --> 00:37:07,024

I always thought that was funny

when Happy Gilmore

 

841

00:37:07,725 --> 00:37:10,962

said you got to go to your happy place.

 

842

00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:13,097

I think I know you're a happy place.

 

843

00:37:14,799 --> 00:37:16,467

I think out in a boat fishing is.

 

844

00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:19,604

Yeah, yeah. Yep, yep.

 

845

00:37:19,604 --> 00:37:23,074

My happy place is lighting a fire

back on my firepit.

 

846

00:37:24,542 --> 00:37:26,844

There's just something about a crackling

fire.

 

847

00:37:28,112 --> 00:37:29,880

Stars at night.

 

848

00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,550

No phones, no talk, no, you know, just.

 

849

00:37:33,284 --> 00:37:35,086

People running out of the house.

 

850

00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:37,588

Yeah, it's such a rush.

 

851

00:37:37,588 --> 00:37:38,289

And it

 

852

00:37:39,290 --> 00:37:40,658

oh. Oh, okay.

 

853

00:37:40,658 --> 00:37:42,526

You're thinking the other way.

 

854

00:37:44,695 --> 00:37:46,631

Yes. I like building fires.

 

855

00:37:46,631 --> 00:37:48,199

I like setting stuff on fire.

 

856

00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:49,700

That's my happy place.

 

857

00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:50,768

Isn't the truth.

 

858

00:37:50,768 --> 00:37:51,502

Me, Mr.

 

859

00:37:51,502 --> 00:37:53,704

Bowen, a fire safety guy yeah.

 

860

00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:56,274

I think that must be universal.

 

861

00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:56,674

There is.

 

862

00:37:56,674 --> 00:37:59,076

There is absolutely something relaxing

about a fire.

 

863

00:37:59,610 --> 00:38:01,512

And at night and just.

 

864

00:38:01,512 --> 00:38:05,883

Just watching the fire burn here

in the crackling of the fire, and

 

865

00:38:07,652 --> 00:38:08,352

it's heaven.

 

866

00:38:08,352 --> 00:38:09,453

I agree with you that.

 

867

00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:12,723

Now, a little bit of music to that and

 

868

00:38:13,791 --> 00:38:15,893

maybe some s'mores

 

869

00:38:15,893 --> 00:38:19,530

or Hot Dog over the OC. Oh.

 

870

00:38:19,830 --> 00:38:21,632

I don't get much better.

 

871

00:38:21,632 --> 00:38:22,333

I told you my.

 

872

00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:26,971

I also I also think about that

one of them grilling, you know,

 

873

00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:30,241

a lot of a lot of people are like,

are you a charcoal guy or gas guy?

 

874

00:38:30,408 --> 00:38:33,244

And and you know, you'll find guys

 

875

00:38:33,244 --> 00:38:35,946

who are just fight to the end. I,

 

876

00:38:37,048 --> 00:38:39,950

I have no problem with

anybody who uses gas.

 

877

00:38:40,017 --> 00:38:42,153

Not at all. To me.

 

878

00:38:43,354 --> 00:38:45,589

I have the time now

 

879

00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:49,260

or I can just light my charcoal,

give it time to,

 

880

00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:50,728

you know, it's almost like building

 

881

00:38:50,728 --> 00:38:54,899

the fire or cooking over the fire

type thing where before I was a gas guy.

 

882

00:38:54,899 --> 00:38:57,234

But, you know,

I had three kids coming home from school

 

883

00:38:57,234 --> 00:39:01,539

and we need to get stuff on the table

where now it's you know,

 

884

00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:05,743

cooking and grilling and smoke and stuff,

slow all day type thing.

 

885

00:39:05,743 --> 00:39:06,510

That's just

 

886

00:39:07,545 --> 00:39:09,580

a real nice escape to.

 

887

00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:10,414

Nice.

 

888

00:39:10,548 --> 00:39:12,483

And like I said, and no matter.

 

889

00:39:12,483 --> 00:39:14,251

What it is.

 

890

00:39:14,251 --> 00:39:17,521

If that's your thing,

if somebody's thing is golfing, whatever

 

891

00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:21,525

your thing is, I think you do have to

just set that time aside.

 

892

00:39:21,525 --> 00:39:24,228

And I also I think you have to hold

yourself accountable to it,

 

893

00:39:24,462 --> 00:39:25,429

just like when, you know,

 

894

00:39:25,429 --> 00:39:28,032

people don't take vacations

because they don't schedule vacations.

 

895

00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:29,500

And I was bad about that.

 

896

00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:31,602

Like,

oh, we didn't take any time off this year

 

897

00:39:31,602 --> 00:39:32,737

because we have so much going on.

 

898

00:39:32,737 --> 00:39:37,074

If I realize if I don't schedule it just

like I'm scheduling a job, I won't do it.

 

899

00:39:37,708 --> 00:39:39,910

So you owe it to yourself.

 

900

00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:42,780

You work so hard in this trade,

in this in this business

 

901

00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:45,649

to find out something for yourself.

 

902

00:39:45,649 --> 00:39:50,254

And, you know, with money being tight

or whatever was three causes

 

903

00:39:50,254 --> 00:39:50,921

things I talk about.

 

904

00:39:50,921 --> 00:39:52,223

I don't cost much.

 

905

00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:54,158

Does it cost much to go for a walk?

 

906

00:39:54,158 --> 00:39:56,260

It doesn't cost much to burn down

somebody else's house.

 

907

00:39:56,660 --> 00:39:58,062

It's cost very little to

 

908

00:39:59,029 --> 00:40:01,899

to go

to a baseball game or something like that.

 

909

00:40:01,899 --> 00:40:06,370

So I think that, first of all, recognize

that you're going through this.

 

910

00:40:06,637 --> 00:40:07,838

Is important.

 

911

00:40:07,905 --> 00:40:11,509

Because some for

some people it's a perpetual thing.

 

912

00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:12,977

We get up every day, we feel burned out.

 

913

00:40:12,977 --> 00:40:13,711

We get up every day.

 

914

00:40:13,711 --> 00:40:14,612

We feel burned. Out.

 

915

00:40:14,612 --> 00:40:16,981

Yeah. They're always burned out every day.

 

916

00:40:17,281 --> 00:40:18,282

And don't be.

 

917

00:40:18,282 --> 00:40:20,284

Don't beat yourself up over. That.

 

918

00:40:20,284 --> 00:40:22,353

I didn't even have

a responsibility of kids.

 

919

00:40:22,353 --> 00:40:23,220

I can't imagine.

 

920

00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:28,159

Also on top of everything I did,

running a business, having children so.

 

921

00:40:28,325 --> 00:40:30,327

Good oh, it's easy.

You just push all that off.

 

922

00:40:30,327 --> 00:40:31,829

And your wife, it's simple.

 

923

00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:33,631

Just. Yeah, that's yeah.

 

924

00:40:33,631 --> 00:40:34,999

If she has burnout, you know,

 

925

00:40:34,999 --> 00:40:37,568

they give her the list of burnout things

and mansplain it to her.

 

926

00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:41,038

The way she's. Feeling. Burned out.

 

927

00:40:42,339 --> 00:40:42,873

Yeah.

 

928

00:40:42,873 --> 00:40:44,675

And here's here's how poorly.

 

929

00:40:44,675 --> 00:40:46,710

And I worked it

because I worked out of town

 

930

00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:49,547

or because, you know,

I was a floor guy and hours a crazy.

 

931

00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,950

So the way we work with the kids was

 

932

00:40:53,517 --> 00:40:57,321

I was in charge of sports and recreation

 

933

00:40:57,855 --> 00:40:59,957

so if there was camping trips,

 

934

00:41:00,524 --> 00:41:03,327

practices,

that's why I coached everything.

 

935

00:41:03,327 --> 00:41:05,463

So I had to be there.

 

936

00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:08,466

And then Paul was in charge of education

and religion.

 

937

00:41:08,999 --> 00:41:11,035

Thank God. Yeah. Yes.

 

938

00:41:11,235 --> 00:41:13,704

You say you wouldn't

want to do those backwards.

 

939

00:41:13,871 --> 00:41:14,772

Exactly.

 

940

00:41:14,772 --> 00:41:19,610

And sometimes people thought, jeez,

you know, poor Emily Johnson,

 

941

00:41:19,610 --> 00:41:23,747

their parents must be divorced

because you always see Pauline.

 

942

00:41:23,747 --> 00:41:28,052

You never see her husband

at the parent teacher conferences

 

943

00:41:29,453 --> 00:41:32,656

or like the first time

somebody met my wife

 

944

00:41:32,656 --> 00:41:36,560

at one of bums hockey games,

they were like, Are you two together?

 

945

00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,496

We thought you were divorced.

 

946

00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,231

I was like, No, we got it.

 

947

00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:41,665

You got a cut and dry here.

 

948

00:41:41,665 --> 00:41:43,167

This is my thing.

 

949

00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:46,070

Sports and recreation

quality is education.

 

950

00:41:46,070 --> 00:41:47,071

And religion.

 

951

00:41:47,104 --> 00:41:50,341

I did have a buddy of mine come up to me

and said, How come I never see Rob?

 

952

00:41:50,641 --> 00:41:52,142

He said, He said this Pauline.

 

953

00:41:53,177 --> 00:41:54,011

He said, How come I never

 

954

00:41:54,011 --> 00:41:56,347

see Rob at these stupid parent

teacher conferences?

 

955

00:41:58,048 --> 00:42:01,619

And she says, Well,

he does sports and recreation.

 

956

00:42:01,652 --> 00:42:03,988

I do education, religion.

 

957

00:42:04,021 --> 00:42:07,424

I see him a few days later

at Dunkin Donuts and he's like,

 

958

00:42:07,424 --> 00:42:11,161

You are the most brilliant man

I have ever met in my life.

 

959

00:42:12,229 --> 00:42:13,964

He goes, I try doing that.

 

960

00:42:13,964 --> 00:42:15,332

He goes, We're way beyond that.

 

961

00:42:15,332 --> 00:42:18,002

But if I had started it

in the beginning like you,

 

962

00:42:18,569 --> 00:42:20,070

things would have been different.

 

963

00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:20,704

Yeah.

 

964

00:42:20,938 --> 00:42:21,839

Nice.

 

965

00:42:21,872 --> 00:42:24,241

It's all about organization

 

966

00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:26,310

delegating. Yes.

 

967

00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:27,912

Okay. And Rob, that's all I have.

 

968

00:42:27,912 --> 00:42:30,648

I don't know if you have any else

you want to add to it.

 

969

00:42:30,648 --> 00:42:34,118

I think if you're going to take time off,

you got to have time off

 

970

00:42:34,118 --> 00:42:37,421

from the electronics. Now. Oh, yes. Let me

 

971

00:42:38,489 --> 00:42:41,525

and I know

 

972

00:42:41,525 --> 00:42:43,427

I was there. Okay.

 

973

00:42:43,427 --> 00:42:46,964

It's tough to go on vacation

and not pay attention to your phone.

 

974

00:42:47,998 --> 00:42:48,632

I know it.

 

975

00:42:48,632 --> 00:42:53,537

It's tough not to do it and and

not want to do emails or get back to me.

 

976

00:42:53,537 --> 00:42:56,674

Whatever, you know, so start small.

 

977

00:42:57,241 --> 00:42:59,343

If you're on vacation

 

978

00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:02,379

in during that vacation, take 3 hours

 

979

00:43:03,314 --> 00:43:06,183

where you're not going to do anything

with your electronics.

 

980

00:43:06,183 --> 00:43:07,985

Give yourself a three hour break.

 

981

00:43:07,985 --> 00:43:09,520

I know you're going to have to start

small.

 

982

00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,591

It's going to be impossible

for a lot of guys to wean themselves off

 

983

00:43:13,591 --> 00:43:16,627

completely that. Impossible or impossible?

 

984

00:43:16,894 --> 00:43:17,761

Is that what I said?

 

985

00:43:17,761 --> 00:43:22,433

Unpassable sounded like an impossible

m impossible.

 

986

00:43:22,433 --> 00:43:24,401

I don't think I'm impossible as a work.

 

987

00:43:24,401 --> 00:43:25,603

No, it's not.

 

988

00:43:26,003 --> 00:43:27,871

Yeah, go ahead.

 

989

00:43:27,972 --> 00:43:28,539

Imposition.

 

990

00:43:28,539 --> 00:43:31,008

And now you're making fun of my speech

impediment. That's.

 

991

00:43:31,041 --> 00:43:33,143

Oh, no. No, that's okay.

 

992

00:43:33,944 --> 00:43:36,614

I assaulted

you over the years with it, so.

 

993

00:43:36,647 --> 00:43:37,381

Yeah.

 

994

00:43:37,915 --> 00:43:40,250

That's what I liked about

snorkeling with the kids.

 

995

00:43:42,419 --> 00:43:44,655

3 hours snorkel in your mouth,

 

996

00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:47,324

no phones.

 

997

00:43:47,324 --> 00:43:49,093

The kids can't even chatter, right?

 

998

00:43:49,093 --> 00:43:51,362

It's just a lot of pointing and grunting.

 

999

00:43:51,729 --> 00:43:52,997

Thumbs up. Yep.

 

1000

00:43:52,997 --> 00:43:54,331

Oh, look at that. Yes.

 

1001

00:43:54,331 --> 00:43:57,434

Okay, move on.

 

1002

00:43:57,434 --> 00:43:58,736

That's brilliant.

 

1003

00:43:58,736 --> 00:43:59,436

I know.

 

1004

00:44:00,070 --> 00:44:01,372

I make you.

 

1005

00:44:01,372 --> 00:44:03,140

A that's a good one on social media.

 

1006

00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:06,310

I actually forgot to say

that there was one more that I had to.

 

1007

00:44:06,310 --> 00:44:10,881

Oh, living, depending on where you live,

are living in California.

 

1008

00:44:11,849 --> 00:44:12,816

Can be stressful.

 

1009

00:44:12,816 --> 00:44:14,318

Living in New York can be stressful.

 

1010

00:44:14,318 --> 00:44:18,856

Living in big cities, just the nature

of the logistics and traffic and noise.

 

1011

00:44:18,856 --> 00:44:20,791

And I forget when I move back,

 

1012

00:44:20,791 --> 00:44:24,361

when I go back to California

for work, the fast how fast the pace is.

 

1013

00:44:24,962 --> 00:44:25,562

You know what I mean?

 

1014

00:44:25,562 --> 00:44:28,465

And and certainly in New York City,

the same thing.

 

1015

00:44:28,465 --> 00:44:30,501

The pace is lightning fast.

 

1016

00:44:30,501 --> 00:44:32,436

And there's stressors everywhere.

 

1017

00:44:32,436 --> 00:44:35,005

So even that can can cause stress.

 

1018

00:44:35,372 --> 00:44:38,776

So finding your is finding

something that works for you.

 

1019

00:44:39,076 --> 00:44:42,079

And, you know, sometimes you have

you bring your spouse into this as well.

 

1020

00:44:42,413 --> 00:44:44,248

They may be going through the same thing.

 

1021

00:44:44,248 --> 00:44:46,984

And so, you know,

and that just might help to.

 

1022

00:44:47,584 --> 00:44:50,487

To. Actually get you to do it,

to include somebody else. So.

 

1023

00:44:51,255 --> 00:44:53,590

All right, Rob, anything else?

 

1024

00:44:53,590 --> 00:44:54,591

Prioritize.

 

1025

00:44:56,126 --> 00:44:56,994

Prioritize.

 

1026

00:44:56,994 --> 00:44:59,396

Not everything has to be done right away.

 

1027

00:45:00,164 --> 00:45:01,465

Yeah. Yeah.

 

1028

00:45:01,465 --> 00:45:05,636

When I first married my wife and,

you know, ten years into our relationship

 

1029

00:45:05,636 --> 00:45:10,708

or longer, she had I never knew her

not to have a note going all all the time.

 

1030

00:45:11,241 --> 00:45:14,645

It was like two pages of notes of things

that she needed to get done all the time

 

1031

00:45:14,645 --> 00:45:16,180

with would lying through them.

 

1032

00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:18,916

And then there's more stuff on the list

and more stuff on the list.

 

1033

00:45:19,450 --> 00:45:20,718

And I go to the list.

 

1034

00:45:20,718 --> 00:45:21,585

I goes.

 

1035

00:45:21,985 --> 00:45:24,555

Dude, I mean.

 

1036

00:45:24,555 --> 00:45:26,657

Is all this stuff important?

 

1037

00:45:26,657 --> 00:45:27,391

Sure.

 

1038

00:45:27,391 --> 00:45:29,193

Wayne's Wayne's.

 

1039

00:45:29,193 --> 00:45:30,861

Wayne's needs,

 

1040

00:45:31,161 --> 00:45:32,463

you know, things that I, you know.

 

1041

00:45:32,463 --> 00:45:35,132

Let me circle

the ones that you prioritize.

 

1042

00:45:35,132 --> 00:45:36,567

Yes. Yes.

 

1043

00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:39,837

But in all seriousness, though,

and then and as she's gotten older

 

1044

00:45:39,837 --> 00:45:42,706

that she doesn't do that

anymore near near to the extent anyhow.

 

1045

00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:44,675

And so good for her.

 

1046

00:45:45,843 --> 00:45:47,911

All right, Rob, we get more.

 

1047

00:45:47,911 --> 00:45:49,146

Delegate

 

1048

00:45:50,581 --> 00:45:53,851

delegates, some responsibilities.

 

1049

00:45:53,851 --> 00:45:55,686

And I know you do that with your team.

 

1050

00:45:55,686 --> 00:45:58,555

Really good presentations,

things like that.

 

1051

00:45:58,555 --> 00:46:00,224

I think that's great.

 

1052

00:46:00,691 --> 00:46:03,961

Takes a little bit off of your plate,

improves their game.

 

1053

00:46:04,361 --> 00:46:05,262

Perfect.

 

1054

00:46:06,163 --> 00:46:10,200

Well, it only works for me

if it improves their game.

 

1055

00:46:10,501 --> 00:46:11,702

That's the second part of this.

 

1056

00:46:11,702 --> 00:46:13,904

I don't I don't want to delegate because

 

1057

00:46:15,172 --> 00:46:17,274

I want someone else to do my work.

 

1058

00:46:18,208 --> 00:46:21,745

But delegating it, that raises

the whole team a lot of times.

 

1059

00:46:22,446 --> 00:46:25,582

And absolutely, I'm a big believer in it

and it's something I had to learn

 

1060

00:46:25,783 --> 00:46:28,719

to, to let go in.

 

1061

00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,322

And and, you know, I'm glad you said that,

that you had to learn this

 

1062

00:46:32,322 --> 00:46:35,592

because, yeah, we can just pop off

all these great answers,

 

1063

00:46:36,393 --> 00:46:39,363

you know, but it's going to be tough.

 

1064

00:46:39,997 --> 00:46:42,933

It's going to be tough for guys

to like this next one here.

 

1065

00:46:43,433 --> 00:46:44,468

We've work at work.

 

1066

00:46:44,468 --> 00:46:45,969

It's a bag of bricks. Set it down.

 

1067

00:46:47,304 --> 00:46:50,407

That's going to be tough for some guys.

 

1068

00:46:50,407 --> 00:46:52,109

There was a time that my work phone

 

1069

00:46:52,109 --> 00:46:54,878

was in my my spare bedroom

when I first started in business.

 

1070

00:46:55,445 --> 00:46:59,483

And that was a big mistake

because even if a Saturday if I said

 

1071

00:46:59,483 --> 00:47:03,420

I wasn't going to work this Saturday,

if I saw that like beeping, I'm going I'm

 

1072

00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:07,291

going to pick up I'm going

to pick up that voicemail and find out.

 

1073

00:47:08,058 --> 00:47:09,827

Who who needed what.

 

1074

00:47:09,827 --> 00:47:11,128

And I couldn't let it go.

 

1075

00:47:11,128 --> 00:47:13,564

I couldn't walk past that room

without checking to make sure I didn't

 

1076

00:47:13,664 --> 00:47:15,933

leave any messages behind or whatever.

 

1077

00:47:15,933 --> 00:47:18,869

So that's a very important.

 

1078

00:47:19,536 --> 00:47:21,839

This one is

 

1079

00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:25,876

when I wrote Practice Self-compassion

and then in parentheses I wrote Yuck,

 

1080

00:47:27,244 --> 00:47:29,646

like, yeah, that just sounds crazy.

 

1081

00:47:30,848 --> 00:47:33,483

But I did follow it

up with Give Yourself a break

 

1082

00:47:35,586 --> 00:47:37,120

you know, give yourself a break.

 

1083

00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,423

I think I know you.

 

1084

00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:43,060

You're probably harder on yourself

than you are anybody that you know.

 

1085

00:47:44,027 --> 00:47:45,295

Yeah.

 

1086

00:47:46,330 --> 00:47:48,198

Self-Compassion. And I use it.

 

1087

00:47:48,198 --> 00:47:50,500

Yeah, I've said that before

to give yourself a break

 

1088

00:47:51,268 --> 00:47:55,172

as I've gotten older in the business

and I see it's easier for me to do

 

1089

00:47:55,172 --> 00:47:57,140

to other people than it is for myself

 

1090

00:47:57,140 --> 00:48:00,010

because when I see a flawed guy

going through it or whatever or yeah,

 

1091

00:48:00,043 --> 00:48:02,512

he's really kicked himself

because it didn't turn out

 

1092

00:48:02,512 --> 00:48:05,315

exactly where he wanted to have

something went wrong or whatever.

 

1093

00:48:05,649 --> 00:48:10,754

Gee, I want that for himself, you know,

obviously, like, man, you just saw

 

1094

00:48:10,754 --> 00:48:13,523

so many good things on his job

and don't kill yourself over this.

 

1095

00:48:13,857 --> 00:48:14,591

Yeah, I.

 

1096

00:48:14,591 --> 00:48:16,660

Know damn well I was the same way. Yes.

 

1097

00:48:16,693 --> 00:48:18,362

But it's easier for me to say it

 

1098

00:48:18,362 --> 00:48:20,130

to somebody else

and for me to actually do it.

 

1099

00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:21,999

I'll be honest about that. Yeah. So

 

1100

00:48:24,835 --> 00:48:25,302

you know, I think

 

1101

00:48:25,302 --> 00:48:27,504

sometimes when you're in this

 

1102

00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,342

burnout situation, it's

because you're in a rut.

 

1103

00:48:33,443 --> 00:48:37,114

You know, you're in a rut where sometimes

 

1104

00:48:37,114 --> 00:48:41,685

I think you need to just sit down

and do some blue sky thinking, really?

 

1105

00:48:41,685 --> 00:48:44,254

Just sit, turn everything off

 

1106

00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:49,059

and think and come up with some ideas

and maybe some of those ideas

 

1107

00:48:49,059 --> 00:48:52,229

can get you out of that,

that rut type of thing.

 

1108

00:48:53,096 --> 00:48:54,031

How many more do you have?

 

1109

00:48:54,031 --> 00:48:57,367

Because I feel like

I'm getting burned out now.

 

1110

00:49:03,106 --> 00:49:05,342

I I know you hate it when I talk.

 

1111

00:49:05,809 --> 00:49:08,879

I'm not. I, I know you hate it.

 

1112

00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:10,280

No, I don't remember.

 

1113

00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,015

We're trying to help people.

 

1114

00:49:12,015 --> 00:49:12,783

I know.

 

1115

00:49:12,783 --> 00:49:15,752

I think it's important. Yeah.

 

1116

00:49:15,752 --> 00:49:16,186

I'm just the.

 

1117

00:49:16,186 --> 00:49:16,753

Problem.

 

1118

00:49:16,753 --> 00:49:20,023

The problem is I don't think I've

ever had burnout, so. Oh.

 

1119

00:49:21,158 --> 00:49:22,592

Well, I sure have.

 

1120

00:49:22,592 --> 00:49:23,894

I know you have.

 

1121

00:49:23,894 --> 00:49:25,495

Yeah. Yeah, you're looking at.

 

1122

00:49:25,495 --> 00:49:27,030

I'm a glass is half full.

 

1123

00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:28,465

Your glass is half empty.

 

1124

00:49:28,465 --> 00:49:31,468

You keep saying that, and I will continue

to disagree with you.

 

1125

00:49:31,835 --> 00:49:32,269

Okay.

 

1126

00:49:32,269 --> 00:49:34,371

I'm the most positive dude

you ever met in your life.

 

1127

00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:37,874

You go ahead and laugh.

 

1128

00:49:37,874 --> 00:49:40,711

I am absolutely. 100% positive.

 

1129

00:49:40,911 --> 00:49:43,246

That sounds like what I say.

The guys at the school, I'm

 

1130

00:49:43,246 --> 00:49:46,049

the most humble freaking guy

I've ever met in my life.

 

1131

00:49:46,483 --> 00:49:47,951

Yeah.

 

1132

00:49:49,853 --> 00:49:52,022

All right, last one.

 

1133

00:49:52,022 --> 00:49:52,956

This is it.

 

1134

00:49:52,956 --> 00:49:53,991

And then I'll let you go.

 

1135

00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:56,626

Remember what makes you happy and do it.

 

1136

00:49:58,428 --> 00:50:01,999

Yeah, well, like I said,

going back to that baseball game,

 

1137

00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:05,402

I mean, find out what does make you happy,

I think is a really good idea.

 

1138

00:50:05,402 --> 00:50:07,304

We get we get away from that.

 

1139

00:50:07,304 --> 00:50:07,871

And even when.

 

1140

00:50:07,871 --> 00:50:10,307

We got in the business,

because we love the business.

 

1141

00:50:10,741 --> 00:50:14,911

And. All of a sudden, you know,

we don't find joy in the business anymore.

 

1142

00:50:15,345 --> 00:50:17,981

And I think that's smart to go find out.

 

1143

00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:18,281

All right.

 

1144

00:50:18,281 --> 00:50:20,417

What did I

what was it that I loved about this job?

 

1145

00:50:20,417 --> 00:50:21,351

And let me get back to it.

 

1146

00:50:21,351 --> 00:50:23,487

And for some people,

 

1147

00:50:23,487 --> 00:50:27,090

they love the craftsmanship of doing like

a radius border or something like that.

 

1148

00:50:27,424 --> 00:50:29,526

And we don't do that

anymore of white plane can.

 

1149

00:50:29,526 --> 00:50:30,060

We're in a hurry.

 

1150

00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:32,262

And I got bills to pay and

I got things to do and blah, blah, blah.

 

1151

00:50:32,863 --> 00:50:34,631

I think we've done it before it.

 

1152

00:50:34,631 --> 00:50:37,000

Highlander

hardwood floors is take one job.

 

1153

00:50:37,634 --> 00:50:38,435

You know what?

 

1154

00:50:38,435 --> 00:50:41,872

We're going to just take our time

and just we haven't done a custom job

 

1155

00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:42,806

in a long time.

 

1156

00:50:42,806 --> 00:50:44,941

Let's let's take the scraps we got left

over.

 

1157

00:50:45,242 --> 00:50:50,113

Let's go out and and do it with 11 time

we did it for they didn't have much money.

 

1158

00:50:50,714 --> 00:50:51,915

She wasn't expecting it.

 

1159

00:50:51,915 --> 00:50:53,450

You just want to see if he's afraid.

 

1160

00:50:53,450 --> 00:50:56,353

You're in stains everywhere

and we said, you know what went out?

 

1161

00:50:56,353 --> 00:50:57,821

We talked about it.

 

1162

00:50:57,821 --> 00:50:58,522

Let's just.

 

1163

00:50:58,522 --> 00:51:00,057

Let's just do a kick ass for here.

 

1164

00:51:00,057 --> 00:51:02,926

Let's do something cool, and we won't even

hardly charge you nothing for it.

 

1165

00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,831

And and then we got it out are

we got our joy and satisfaction out of it.

 

1166

00:51:08,198 --> 00:51:11,001

And then she got something

that was beyond our wildest dreams

 

1167

00:51:11,334 --> 00:51:13,770

and that made us feel so much better.

 

1168

00:51:14,171 --> 00:51:15,238

She was deserving of it.

 

1169

00:51:15,238 --> 00:51:19,409

She was a sweet,

nice old lady, and and it kind of served

 

1170

00:51:19,409 --> 00:51:22,512

a few things at the same time, so I think

 

1171

00:51:22,512 --> 00:51:26,316

not a bad idea to find something,

you know, that you enjoy.

 

1172

00:51:26,316 --> 00:51:29,219

We remember what you loved

about this craft when you started it.

 

1173

00:51:29,653 --> 00:51:32,055

Don't let the craft beat you up.

 

1174

00:51:32,055 --> 00:51:36,359

And there's a lot of chances out there was

labor shortage and stuff like that.

 

1175

00:51:36,359 --> 00:51:40,163

So I think those things are important

and good call.

 

1176

00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:40,931

I actually have.

 

1177

00:51:40,931 --> 00:51:41,698

I'm impressed.

 

1178

00:51:41,698 --> 00:51:44,468

That is a great idea.

Not I'm sitting here thinking

 

1179

00:51:45,735 --> 00:51:48,572

I have this old woman that I remember

Peter and I work for.

 

1180

00:51:48,572 --> 00:51:51,741

I wish I had done something like that

instead of right.

 

1181

00:51:51,775 --> 00:51:52,642

That's a great idea.

 

1182

00:51:52,642 --> 00:51:53,743

I got to give you your props.

 

1183

00:51:53,743 --> 00:51:56,012

Are you going to get a belt buckle?

 

1184

00:51:56,413 --> 00:51:57,814

That's a good one, man.

 

1185

00:51:57,814 --> 00:51:59,716

That's a real good one.

 

1186

00:51:59,716 --> 00:52:00,150

You're right.

 

1187

00:52:00,150 --> 00:52:04,020

Because sometimes we just don't get the

the chance to do that kind of thing.

 

1188

00:52:04,254 --> 00:52:08,058

The nice thing about doing that is pick

someone who is be the least suspect in

 

1189

00:52:08,058 --> 00:52:09,993

that could never afford a flaw like that.

 

1190

00:52:09,993 --> 00:52:12,729

And it doesn't have to be anything

just off the charts,

 

1191

00:52:13,029 --> 00:52:17,100

but something like would blow her mind

or blow his mind when they walk in.

 

1192

00:52:17,134 --> 00:52:20,103

They never thought a million years

they'd be able on that floor. Yeah.

 

1193

00:52:21,204 --> 00:52:23,406

And make it turn it into a training thing.

 

1194

00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:29,012

And it's it's also make you put

a lot of joy in your heart, too, as well.

 

1195

00:52:29,012 --> 00:52:31,281

So good stuff.

 

1196

00:52:31,281 --> 00:52:31,781

All right.

 

1197

00:52:31,781 --> 00:52:33,817

Maybe you're not

a glass is half empty guy.

 

1198

00:52:34,184 --> 00:52:36,720

Oh, I know. I'm not there.

No matter what you think.

 

1199

00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:37,387

I know I'm not.

 

1200

00:52:37,387 --> 00:52:40,690

I don't worry about the opinions of sheep.

 

1201

00:52:42,959 --> 00:52:43,860

At this show.

 

1202

00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:44,761

No, they don't laugh.

 

1203

00:52:44,761 --> 00:52:45,328

I don't know.

 

1204

00:52:45,328 --> 00:52:46,263

They're running together now.

 

1205

00:52:46,263 --> 00:52:48,165

Maybe that was the last show.

 

1206

00:52:48,465 --> 00:52:49,833

All right. Rob.

 

1207

00:52:49,833 --> 00:52:51,067

Thank you, man.

 

1208

00:52:51,268 --> 00:52:53,837

Appreciate the pleasure, buddy.

 

1209

00:52:54,905 --> 00:52:57,507

Hopefully maybe somebody

got something out of this one

 

1210

00:52:58,341 --> 00:53:01,978

that might help them in their career and

add a few more years to their career, too.

 

1211

00:53:02,179 --> 00:53:04,948

And maybe a little bit more joy

in their in their life. We hope

 

1212

00:53:06,116 --> 00:53:07,250

so. There you go.

 

1213

00:53:07,250 --> 00:53:09,786

This has been another episode

of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.

 

1214

00:53:10,153 --> 00:53:12,088

Hey, stay tuned. For another episode.