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And I'm Rob
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Johnson from the Ebola training.
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I'm laughing
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because it sounded
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like you forgot for a second.
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Yeah,
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very good.
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How about yourself?
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I see you get your Christmas decorations
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up in the background.
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I'll have
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Pauline come over.
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yeah.
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You can see ours. Yeah.
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Every.
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Every room.
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She has a picture.
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We have a set in the bathroom.
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That is it.
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Like.
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yeah, I'll take a picture of it
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and send it to you guys.
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It watches you
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while you're going to the bathroom.
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It's kind of sneaky.
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Yeah, it's kind of weird.
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But,
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Pauline, you know, it's another place
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she found to put a Santa.
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yeah.
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All right.
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So
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today
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we decided that we're going
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to talk about bosses
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and
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some good ones and
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bad ones
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and some of the experiences
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we've had over our careers.
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And take what you want from that.
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For people out there who are bosses
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and or you, everybody
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seems like everybody has a boss.
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One thing about doing
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is even if you own your own business,
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you have a boss every week.
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It's whoever you're
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Yes, absolutely right,
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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I agree.
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It's that's the toughest part.
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I think
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one of the toughest parts,
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though.
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You were a unit guy
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and he was telling you to quit.
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Wow.
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I know this is going to sound cold.
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When I was in,
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I think I was in the seventh grade,
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I said to my dad and it wasn't anything.
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It wasn't my birthday.
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It wasn't Christmas, nothing.
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And I said, Hey, I'd like a new bike.
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Just I needed a new bike.
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And he was like, he was like, All right.
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You know,
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I never asked for anything
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when I was a kid,
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never asked for a thing,
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just never had it in me.
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And but this one, I was like,
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I'd like a bike.
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And I go, I'd like to show it to you.
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So we go down to
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if anybody lived in Andover, Mass.
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Back in the seventies,
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there was only one place
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to buy anything for sports or bikes
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was Dana's sports shop.
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It was like paradise for
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guys my age.
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And we just
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everybody would go there after school
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and just walk around.
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It was crazy.
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So I walk into the place with my dad and
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I'm like, Here it is.
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It was a Raleigh chopper.
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I remember the Raleigh chopper.
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Do you remember that?
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All right, look it up when we're done.
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Because they were the most badass bike.
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They had a little wheel in the front.
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A big, huge wheel in the back almost
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wasn't a banana seat.
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It looked more like a motorcycle seat
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with a big sissy bar.
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I mean,
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it was orange and it said chopper,
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and I mean, it was had a three stage
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three speed stick shift.
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yeah.
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It had it was everything.
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It was 85 bucks.
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$85.
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And my father looked at me
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and started laughing.
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He goes, You're
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going to have to go to your grandfather
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and get a job.
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My grandfather owned the bowling
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alley in town. Candle pin
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a candle candle up in bowling alley.
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If you want to go to candle
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pin bowling out
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lane, this is a candle pin.
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Got that?
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Yeah, that's a that.
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That's a bowling candle pin.
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Bowling that? Yes.
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You only see it in a couple of
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states in New England,
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Maine, New Hampshire,
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maybe a little Connecticut,
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some Rhode Island.
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So I went to
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my grandfather, asked for a job
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and I'm getting around to boss's okay.
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He offered me a job $0.50 an hour
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after school.
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It was like 3 hours after school.
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The absolute scariest man
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I ever worked for in my life.
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It was terrifying,
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absolutely terrifying.
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Not so much to me,
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but anybody who worked
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in the bowling alley, including myself,
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just the scariest man alive.
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Nothing.
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Nothing like my grandfather.
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You know,
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I saw
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Christmas and
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on the weekends at the camp
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and, you know, I mean,
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at work,
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he was terrifying.
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I mean, terrifying.
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I had to do I cleaned ashtrays,
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I cleaned lanes,
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I cleaned the gutters,
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I cleaned bathrooms,
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swept the parking lot. Right.
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But I was never
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allowed to go into the ladies
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room and clean the ladies room.
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And it was like every day,
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every day he would be like,
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Don't go in there.
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Do not go in there.
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Yeah. And yeah.
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So one day I went in there and,
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you know,
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just to see what the hell's going on,
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you know,
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why am I not allowed in this place right?
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I open up the door
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to one of the stalls and like
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the hell is that little box? But
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what is that?
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And just is.
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I'm wondering, I feel this hand.
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And he was a huge man.
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I mean, he was huge.
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Six three, six, four, £270.
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And this hand clutched
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my shoulder.
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This is it.
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This is the end of my.
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There are no cameras.
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This was my gosh,
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this was like 1973 or four.
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There were no cameras anywhere now.
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And I thought for sure
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I wouldn't get caught.
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Absolutely.
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I'm like,
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All right, there's nobody around.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I want to ask him
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what the little boxes were for,
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but I figured I'm just.
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Yeah, he sent me home.
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Sent me home for the day.
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I didn't get fired, but
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my day was over.
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I only made $0.30 that day.
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No way.
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No, I would not.
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I didn't go right home there.
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No way. I was coming home early.
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Well, I
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had a paper route to.
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So every Saturday
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I would take
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all the money I earned for the week,
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go to the bank,
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and the bank
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was literally across the street
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from the sporting
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shop, Dana's sports shop.
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And I'll never forget going in there
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one day
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and all the bank lady,
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all the tellers
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and everything were all excited.
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They're like, Is
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today's the day?
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I got it,
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took the money out,
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walked across the street and
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drove that bike ride out the front door.
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We we didn't have it
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when we were living in Colorado.
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We didn't have bikes,
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and my brother wanted
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a bike in the worst way.
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He was older than me,
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and we just didn't have the
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we didn't have
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all the neighborhood kids had bikes.
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We didn't have one. And.
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And he didn't have one.
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So he. Yeah, we wanted one desperately.
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Yeah. Walk everywhere.
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So he stole a kids bike down the road
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Yeah.
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Is that the guy you thought?
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Did you fight that guy?
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I think it's changed.
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I think it's changed.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, more of the same.
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But maybe it's changed now.
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I think it's changed a little bit
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in construction,
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especially where people are just
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trying to keep people.
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I mean, you know,
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you and I are in the trades.
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We hear it every single day.
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And it's not just our trade.
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It's,
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you know, other
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guys that I know carpenters, painters,
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they can't keep anybody,
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They can't find anybody.
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They can't get anybody. So
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so if you're going to treat people
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like a horse's ass.
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Yeah,
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there's a
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there's a lot of options out there
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for guys who want to do this.
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I think
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I say it's brutal,
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it was brutal coming up in the trades.
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I mean, I am
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I've worked for my father in law
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and he was one of the worst
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bosses on planet Earth.
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I mean,
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I say
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he would swear at you so much
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that the sentence
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that would no longer make any sense.
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You know what I mean?
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And he didn't teach you that.
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He just screamed at you.
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I mean, like, threw stuff at you
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and whatever.
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And I remember
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when you're an apprentice,
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the first thing you're supposed to do
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is get like a list of
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they give you a list of tools
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that you have to you have to supply
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it be framings where it'd be, you know, a
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carpenter, pencils,
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whatever, in a 20 ounce hammer
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and whatever different things.
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So I went down to it
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back in the day it was Sears
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and I just bought all these tools.
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I don't want,
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you know, you're,
305
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you don't know what you're buying.
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We had an apprentice
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and it days just starting
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and there's like 20 guys,
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you know
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like standing around
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and I've got my bucket they're tools
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and and he goes, What do you got there?
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I goes, My tool is, you know,
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you gave me a tool. Yes.
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I get everything on the list.
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And he took it
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and he dumped it out on on the dirt,
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all the tools.
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And you know,
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what did you buy this board?
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He kicked it about 20 yards away
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and he picked up
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scramble and pick up all your tools
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and I mean, it
325
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it is the trades back in
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the day were rough, man.
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But like I said, once you got into it,
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once you realize that was a deal
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and then you moved up and,
330
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you know,
331
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there's always something
332
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coming up underneath.
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I'll tell you,
334
00:16:06,332 --> 00:16:09,234
I was when I first took the crew over,
335
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the family business crew, I was a tyrant.
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I was such an ass.
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I mean,
338
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I'm surprised
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my brother even talks to me.
340
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Yeah. Yeah,
341
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yeah.
342
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I didn't learn anything
343
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from the people that I work for.
344
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Not a thing.
345
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All I learned was.
346
00:16:31,724 --> 00:16:33,225
I guess this is how you do it.
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Type of a thing,
348
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right?
349
00:16:35,561 --> 00:16:38,030
This is how you get results.
350
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You just make
351
00:16:38,797 --> 00:16:41,800
everybody hate you.
352
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:42,234
And.
353
00:16:42,234 --> 00:16:49,641
And off of the hate.
354
00:16:49,742 --> 00:16:51,777
when I was 14 years old
355
00:16:51,777 --> 00:16:53,779
and we had a new kid
356
00:16:53,779 --> 00:16:54,780
and it was his first day.
357
00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:55,681
And so they said, Yeah,
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00:16:55,681 --> 00:16:56,615
I've been there like a,
359
00:16:56,615 --> 00:16:58,517
you know, a whopping six months.
360
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And they go, okay,
361
00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:02,021
this new kid starting,
362
00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,555
let's see what he's made of.
363
00:17:03,555 --> 00:17:05,324
You make him clean up all the tables
364
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and put up all the chairs
365
00:17:06,291 --> 00:17:07,026
up on the tables
366
00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:09,962
and clean the tables in the in the mop
367
00:17:09,962 --> 00:17:11,597
the room.
368
00:17:11,597 --> 00:17:14,867
So
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00:17:14,933 --> 00:17:15,467
he goes,
370
00:17:15,467 --> 00:17:18,470
Man, my hands killing me.
371
00:17:18,537 --> 00:17:18,771
You know,
372
00:17:18,771 --> 00:17:19,805
he did something over the weekend
373
00:17:19,805 --> 00:17:20,105
or whatever.
374
00:17:20,105 --> 00:17:21,473
He goes, I can't live this year
375
00:17:21,473 --> 00:17:22,074
of can you help me?
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00:17:22,074 --> 00:17:25,077
I go, Well,
377
00:17:25,244 --> 00:17:32,217
what we hire
378
00:17:32,317 --> 00:17:33,185
There's not many
379
00:17:33,185 --> 00:17:34,086
other options
380
00:17:34,086 --> 00:17:36,422
for you to do here at Dairy Queen.
381
00:17:36,422 --> 00:17:38,257
I did.
382
00:17:38,257 --> 00:18:07,886
You have to wear a paper hat,
383
00:18:07,986 --> 00:18:16,161
also.
384
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Yeah,
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00:18:52,698 --> 00:18:53,765
Yeah.
386
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I, I'm
387
00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:55,767
glad to see that
388
00:18:55,767 --> 00:18:57,903
that that mentality is going away.
389
00:18:57,903 --> 00:18:59,371
It served no purpose.
390
00:18:59,371 --> 00:19:02,007
There is one thing that I think
391
00:19:02,007 --> 00:19:03,175
what you are trying to do
392
00:19:03,175 --> 00:19:04,076
is toughen you up,
393
00:19:04,076 --> 00:19:06,111
which you needed to be toughened up.
394
00:19:06,111 --> 00:19:07,846
You specifically know,
395
00:19:07,846 --> 00:19:09,481
I mean, people in general,
396
00:19:09,481 --> 00:19:10,082
when you're a kid,
397
00:19:10,082 --> 00:19:10,949
you're going into trades.
398
00:19:10,949 --> 00:19:11,817
It's a tough job
399
00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:12,951
and you need to be toughened up.
400
00:19:12,951 --> 00:19:14,086
You know what I mean?
401
00:19:14,086 --> 00:19:15,120
But I think
402
00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:16,221
there's other ways to do that.
403
00:19:16,221 --> 00:19:18,357
And you certainly don't have to
404
00:19:18,357 --> 00:19:19,224
berate people
405
00:19:19,224 --> 00:19:20,492
and yell at people on the screen,
406
00:19:20,492 --> 00:19:22,961
the people, and do those type of things.
407
00:19:22,961 --> 00:19:24,429
I think the other stuff is okay.
408
00:19:24,429 --> 00:19:26,098
I mean, the demanding part of it were,
409
00:19:26,098 --> 00:19:28,233
you know, because it's a physical job,
410
00:19:28,233 --> 00:19:29,434
but I think the other stuff
411
00:19:29,434 --> 00:19:30,836
is yelling at people
412
00:19:30,836 --> 00:19:31,904
and that kind of
413
00:19:31,904 --> 00:19:34,139
stuff is no way to behave.
414
00:19:34,239 --> 00:19:34,606
You know,
415
00:19:34,606 --> 00:19:36,041
talking about my grandfather,
416
00:19:36,041 --> 00:19:38,544
this reminded me of another story.
417
00:19:38,544 --> 00:19:42,447
Our warehouse for the bowling lane
418
00:19:42,447 --> 00:19:43,982
construction company H.H.
419
00:19:43,982 --> 00:19:47,819
Johnson Sons was in a building
420
00:19:47,819 --> 00:19:49,454
attached to the bowling
421
00:19:49,454 --> 00:19:51,623
alley and over lanes.
422
00:19:51,623 --> 00:19:53,792
So if my grandfather got
423
00:19:53,792 --> 00:19:55,561
jammed up with a machine or something
424
00:19:55,561 --> 00:19:57,963
and we were back there,
425
00:19:57,963 --> 00:19:59,298
he would call back there and say,
426
00:19:59,298 --> 00:20:01,233
Hey, you can send somebody up.
427
00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:01,500
You know,
428
00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:02,601
I need a hand with this
429
00:20:02,601 --> 00:20:03,835
or that or whatever.
430
00:20:03,835 --> 00:20:04,770
Now, this is way
431
00:20:04,770 --> 00:20:06,538
after I worked for him when I was a kid.
432
00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:08,473
Now, you know, year
433
00:20:08,473 --> 00:20:10,475
two out of high school.
434
00:20:10,475 --> 00:20:13,478
So my uncle sends Pete
435
00:20:13,579 --> 00:20:14,479
when Pete was working
436
00:20:14,479 --> 00:20:15,414
for the family business,
437
00:20:15,414 --> 00:20:16,815
my uncle sends feedback there
438
00:20:16,815 --> 00:20:19,151
to help my grandfather.
439
00:20:19,151 --> 00:20:20,552
And
440
00:20:20,552 --> 00:20:23,589
about an hour later, I see Pete, like,
441
00:20:23,589 --> 00:20:25,857
just standing alone in the warehouse,
442
00:20:25,857 --> 00:20:28,760
holding this light bulb right.
443
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,995
This
444
00:20:30,095 --> 00:20:31,597
this long light bulb.
445
00:20:31,597 --> 00:20:34,900
Right this tube light.
446
00:20:34,967 --> 00:20:35,334
And that's
447
00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:37,002
what they used on the pin setters
448
00:20:37,002 --> 00:20:39,571
to illuminate the pins.
449
00:20:39,571 --> 00:20:41,473
Well, my grandfather had sent Pete down
450
00:20:41,473 --> 00:20:43,275
to the hardware store,
451
00:20:43,275 --> 00:20:45,043
Cole's hardware
452
00:20:45,043 --> 00:20:48,046
just down the end of the block to pick up
453
00:20:48,046 --> 00:20:49,281
a new light bulb
454
00:20:49,281 --> 00:20:51,883
because one had gone out.
455
00:20:51,883 --> 00:20:55,354
So Pete goes in
456
00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:56,154
and the guy says,
457
00:20:56,154 --> 00:20:58,724
We don't have that light bulb.
458
00:20:58,724 --> 00:20:59,725
We don't have that one.
459
00:20:59,725 --> 00:21:02,594
We never had that one.
460
00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:04,363
So Pete goes back
461
00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:07,366
and tells my grandfather, Hey, they
462
00:21:07,499 --> 00:21:09,201
they don't have it.
463
00:21:09,201 --> 00:21:11,737
My grandfather
464
00:21:11,737 --> 00:21:14,973
just blows a gasket right.
465
00:21:15,073 --> 00:21:18,076
Not really yelling at Pete, but yelling
466
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,712
about the whole situation
467
00:21:20,712 --> 00:21:23,982
because he's got a lane down.
468
00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:27,986
So he sends Pete back
469
00:21:28,086 --> 00:21:28,754
six feet
470
00:21:28,754 --> 00:21:31,723
back to the hardware store, it said.
471
00:21:31,890 --> 00:21:32,190
Mr.
472
00:21:32,190 --> 00:21:33,225
Johnson says that
473
00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:35,160
he gets these all the time here
474
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:35,594
and he's like,
475
00:21:35,594 --> 00:21:37,329
I don't care who said what.
476
00:21:37,329 --> 00:21:39,731
We don't have this.
477
00:21:39,798 --> 00:21:41,600
There's no way,
478
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,267
there's no way
479
00:21:42,267 --> 00:21:43,035
Pete's going back
480
00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:45,337
and telling my grandfather a second time.
481
00:21:45,337 --> 00:21:46,338
So he just walks
482
00:21:46,338 --> 00:21:47,506
to the back of the warehouse
483
00:21:47,506 --> 00:21:49,641
and stands there in the warehouse,
484
00:21:49,641 --> 00:21:50,175
and we're all like,
485
00:21:50,175 --> 00:21:51,610
Pete, what are you doing?
486
00:21:51,610 --> 00:21:53,979
I I'm not going back to your grandfather
487
00:21:53,979 --> 00:21:57,949
and telling him they don't have it.
488
00:21:58,016 --> 00:22:00,585
It says, What are you guys has to do it.
489
00:22:00,585 --> 00:22:01,420
I can't.
490
00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:05,957
I just can't go back.
491
00:22:06,024 --> 00:22:10,062
The man was absolutely terrifying.
492
00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:12,564
Okay, but
493
00:22:12,564 --> 00:22:13,532
the greatest guy
494
00:22:13,532 --> 00:22:14,433
you ever met
495
00:22:14,433 --> 00:22:16,935
on the weekends and holidays
496
00:22:16,935 --> 00:22:19,338
and whatever, I mean,
497
00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,673
just awesome, right?
498
00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:22,274
You couldn't
499
00:22:22,274 --> 00:22:25,811
ask for a better grandfather, but
500
00:22:25,877 --> 00:22:30,148
just terrifying to work with.
501
00:22:30,248 --> 00:22:31,750
my father in law,
502
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:33,352
he's a construction superintendent,
503
00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:34,653
and he had a lot of guys
504
00:22:34,653 --> 00:22:35,454
that work for him.
505
00:22:35,454 --> 00:22:37,456
I mean, they were big, big jobs.
506
00:22:37,456 --> 00:22:39,558
And one day at lunch,
507
00:22:39,558 --> 00:22:41,326
he goes, Hey, come here, come here.
508
00:22:41,326 --> 00:22:41,660
I go.
509
00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:42,194
Way he goes.
510
00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:43,895
I go down to the
511
00:22:43,895 --> 00:22:45,797
deli, get me a sandwich.
512
00:22:45,797 --> 00:22:46,665
Now, I always knew
513
00:22:46,665 --> 00:22:48,734
he was picky about his food, right?
514
00:22:48,734 --> 00:22:52,971
So he goes, Yeah, Turkey on a
515
00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:54,940
I think it was like, what kind of bread?
516
00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:57,809
Sour dough. Bread.
517
00:22:57,809 --> 00:22:59,244
No mayonnaise, Just a little mustard.
518
00:22:59,244 --> 00:23:01,146
Okay, you handle that.
519
00:23:01,146 --> 00:23:02,581
I go, Yeah, and give you a Snickers bar
520
00:23:02,581 --> 00:23:03,281
or something like that.
521
00:23:03,281 --> 00:23:04,349
I said, Okay, good.
522
00:23:04,349 --> 00:23:05,217
So I'm driving down there
523
00:23:05,217 --> 00:23:08,220
and I'm thinking, okay, no, no Sato bread
524
00:23:08,253 --> 00:23:21,333
or Ontario bread,
525
00:23:21,433 --> 00:24:05,243
All.
526
00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:06,077
I need.
527
00:24:06,077 --> 00:24:08,346
Yeah, I mean that.
528
00:24:08,346 --> 00:24:10,682
yeah, right.
529
00:24:10,682 --> 00:24:15,053
Yeah.
530
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,055
Two other bosses I had in
531
00:24:17,055 --> 00:24:21,593
the family was my uncle and my dad
532
00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:24,663
and
533
00:24:24,896 --> 00:24:28,767
my uncle was an absolute prick.
534
00:24:28,867 --> 00:24:31,069
I mean, a prick.
535
00:24:31,069 --> 00:24:32,737
He was.
536
00:24:32,737 --> 00:24:34,439
He was a quintessential ramrod.
537
00:24:34,439 --> 00:24:36,041
But.
538
00:24:36,041 --> 00:24:37,876
And if Pete was on, he'd
539
00:24:37,876 --> 00:24:39,344
tell you the same thing.
540
00:24:39,344 --> 00:24:42,647
We learned more how to run a job site
541
00:24:42,714 --> 00:24:45,717
from my uncle than anybody ever.
542
00:24:45,784 --> 00:24:50,622
I mean, it was a well-oiled machine.
543
00:24:50,689 --> 00:24:53,024
Nobody ever stopped.
544
00:24:53,024 --> 00:24:53,291
Yeah.
545
00:24:53,291 --> 00:24:54,292
The only thing you ever stopped
546
00:24:54,292 --> 00:24:55,694
for was to change paper.
547
00:24:55,694 --> 00:24:57,128
And the paper was right there.
548
00:24:57,128 --> 00:24:58,864
You were never getting up and going
549
00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:01,199
and finding paper or anything like that.
550
00:25:01,199 --> 00:25:02,267
I mean,
551
00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:04,102
you name it or everything
552
00:25:04,102 --> 00:25:05,403
just completely later.
553
00:25:05,403 --> 00:25:09,407
Everything, you name it, it was done.
554
00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:10,609
That was his job.
555
00:25:10,609 --> 00:25:12,143
He rarely ran machines.
556
00:25:12,143 --> 00:25:15,146
He just ran people and.
557
00:25:15,313 --> 00:25:16,915
And just kept everything.
558
00:25:16,915 --> 00:25:20,785
He was a prick, but
559
00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:23,355
he got great results.
560
00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:25,657
So that begs the question.
561
00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:26,992
You know, I've watched
562
00:25:26,992 --> 00:25:28,827
I've seen documentaries on Bobby Knight,
563
00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:30,595
and I've known a lot about Bobby Knight
564
00:25:30,595 --> 00:25:31,696
because I was a
565
00:25:31,696 --> 00:25:34,399
I am a UK, Kentucky basketball fan.
566
00:25:34,399 --> 00:25:35,901
So take that everybody.
567
00:25:35,901 --> 00:25:39,471
And you know, we didn't like Indiana
568
00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:42,173
and he was a
569
00:25:42,173 --> 00:25:44,042
he got incredible results
570
00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:45,944
It was on it on TV.
571
00:25:45,944 --> 00:25:48,446
Are they watching this the
572
00:25:48,446 --> 00:25:51,917
the Saints coach completely
573
00:25:51,917 --> 00:25:53,685
berate and scream at his kicker
574
00:25:53,685 --> 00:25:55,153
on the sideline
575
00:25:55,153 --> 00:25:57,055
and and I've heard people say like
576
00:25:57,055 --> 00:25:58,690
okay well
577
00:25:58,690 --> 00:25:59,391
would you want to work
578
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:00,125
for a guy like that
579
00:26:00,125 --> 00:26:00,926
because he brings out
580
00:26:00,926 --> 00:26:01,793
the best of everybody.
581
00:26:01,793 --> 00:26:02,294
I mean Bobby
582
00:26:02,294 --> 00:26:03,028
Knight took
583
00:26:03,028 --> 00:26:03,929
the guarantees that weren't
584
00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:05,997
the best athletes in the country,
585
00:26:05,997 --> 00:26:09,434
but through his program and hard work
586
00:26:09,434 --> 00:26:10,769
and then and the defense
587
00:26:10,769 --> 00:26:11,870
and all the will they played
588
00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:14,606
they they probably overachieved. Right.
589
00:26:14,606 --> 00:26:16,041
And he brought in a lot of players
590
00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:17,108
that were overachievers
591
00:26:17,108 --> 00:26:19,411
because he was a tyrant.
592
00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:20,979
So would you want to work for a guy
593
00:26:20,979 --> 00:26:21,546
like that, though?
594
00:26:21,546 --> 00:26:22,914
It would bring out the best in you
595
00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:24,215
and make you a better person,
596
00:26:24,215 --> 00:26:26,785
make you better what you do.
597
00:26:26,851 --> 00:26:28,987
And I think,
598
00:26:28,987 --> 00:26:29,487
well, first of all,
599
00:26:29,487 --> 00:26:31,189
and I only ask you that question
600
00:26:31,189 --> 00:26:32,757
if you had a guy
601
00:26:32,757 --> 00:26:33,959
that would make you
602
00:26:33,959 --> 00:26:35,760
much better than you are
603
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,163
and just bring out the best in you
604
00:26:38,163 --> 00:26:38,863
and every possible
605
00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:40,932
way to learn the craft,
606
00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:42,200
would you want to work for that guy?
607
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,470
And even in being a tyrant.
608
00:26:45,537 --> 00:26:47,205
Yeah. Yeah.
609
00:26:47,205 --> 00:26:51,142
I don't take it personal.
610
00:26:51,209 --> 00:26:54,813
I, I don't take that stuff personally.
611
00:26:54,879 --> 00:26:58,583
One of the stories we were talking about
612
00:26:58,683 --> 00:26:59,818
when we were saying our work
613
00:26:59,818 --> 00:27:02,821
was when I used to work at UPS
614
00:27:02,887 --> 00:27:05,390
for three or four years I worked ups
615
00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:08,927
just the, the Christmas Christmas rush.
616
00:27:08,927 --> 00:27:10,695
It was like
617
00:27:10,695 --> 00:27:12,797
and it was like a middle of October
618
00:27:12,797 --> 00:27:17,035
to first of the year.
619
00:27:17,102 --> 00:27:18,203
And this is back
620
00:27:18,203 --> 00:27:21,206
in, you know, 79, 80, 81.
621
00:27:21,339 --> 00:27:22,941
They were paying 12 bucks an hour,
622
00:27:22,941 --> 00:27:24,376
which is,
623
00:27:24,442 --> 00:27:25,410
you know,
624
00:27:25,410 --> 00:27:28,013
it's like 40 bucks an hour now, right?
625
00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:29,881
I think it is.
626
00:27:29,881 --> 00:27:32,884
But the guy I work for,
627
00:27:33,051 --> 00:27:34,686
he he thought he was a marine
628
00:27:34,686 --> 00:27:36,488
drill sergeant.
629
00:27:36,488 --> 00:27:38,657
And the only way I can really put it
630
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:40,792
and this is really showing my age,
631
00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:44,496
but if you remember the beginning opening
632
00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:46,197
scene of Gomer Pyle,
633
00:27:46,197 --> 00:27:48,299
and we're Gomer Pyle, right?
634
00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:49,334
And Gomer is marching
635
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:52,837
with a big city and grin on his face
636
00:27:52,904 --> 00:27:54,873
while a drill sergeant is standing right
637
00:27:54,873 --> 00:27:58,443
next to him just screaming at the guy.
638
00:27:58,543 --> 00:27:59,444
And and Gomer
639
00:27:59,444 --> 00:28:00,845
is just marching and smiling.
640
00:28:00,845 --> 00:28:01,646
Look at it. Watch it.
641
00:28:01,646 --> 00:28:02,847
It's a circle, right?
642
00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:05,850
He's just nodding his head and smiling.
643
00:28:06,084 --> 00:28:07,185
That was me.
644
00:28:07,185 --> 00:28:11,456
I was Gomer Pyle at that job, because
645
00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:13,625
sometimes they could have two.
646
00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:14,793
Foreman's
647
00:28:14,793 --> 00:28:16,761
standing in the back of the truck
648
00:28:16,761 --> 00:28:18,663
just screaming at the top of their lungs
649
00:28:18,663 --> 00:28:19,698
at you.
650
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:21,132
Faster, faster.
651
00:28:21,132 --> 00:28:23,068
Yeah, you name it.
652
00:28:23,068 --> 00:28:25,303
They I swear they were all
653
00:28:25,303 --> 00:28:27,605
all the manager, the
654
00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:28,873
truck foreman's were just
655
00:28:28,873 --> 00:28:31,943
trying to outdo each other with insults
656
00:28:31,943 --> 00:28:34,746
and just thinks that they could say
657
00:28:34,746 --> 00:28:36,147
to you. Right.
658
00:28:36,147 --> 00:28:37,682
And people would break down,
659
00:28:37,682 --> 00:28:38,817
people would get all pissed
660
00:28:38,817 --> 00:28:39,284
and everything.
661
00:28:39,284 --> 00:28:40,919
And I'm telling you,
662
00:28:40,919 --> 00:28:43,288
all I could think about was
663
00:28:43,288 --> 00:28:44,389
they go ahead
664
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:46,591
screaming 12 bucks an hour.
665
00:28:46,591 --> 00:28:47,826
I ain't leaving here.
666
00:28:47,826 --> 00:28:48,393
Right.
667
00:28:48,393 --> 00:28:51,396
This is this is beautiful money.
668
00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:53,064
Easy do all I'm doing.
669
00:28:53,064 --> 00:28:54,466
I'm not doing any flaws,
670
00:28:54,466 --> 00:28:56,568
not edging, I'm not doing anything.
671
00:28:56,568 --> 00:28:58,336
They just put a big conveyor
672
00:28:58,336 --> 00:29:01,740
belt right into an 18 wheeler.
673
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,074
You didn't put it on pallets.
674
00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:04,209
You didn't put it anywhere.
675
00:29:04,209 --> 00:29:06,711
You just stacked boxes
676
00:29:06,711 --> 00:29:08,113
as high as you could reach
677
00:29:08,113 --> 00:29:09,614
and then just keep
678
00:29:09,614 --> 00:29:12,617
stacking thousands and thousands of boxes
679
00:29:12,650 --> 00:29:13,685
in the UPS truck.
680
00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:14,219
I always wonder
681
00:29:14,219 --> 00:29:15,487
if they still do it that way.
682
00:29:15,487 --> 00:29:18,156
But that's how we did it.
683
00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:18,556
And if
684
00:29:18,556 --> 00:29:20,125
you needed to make something fit,
685
00:29:20,125 --> 00:29:22,360
you just beat it and bashed it.
686
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,596
I mean. That.
687
00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:27,599
And you fit it in there.
688
00:29:27,699 --> 00:29:28,399
when I mentioned that
689
00:29:28,399 --> 00:29:30,034
all three of these guys that I worked for
690
00:29:30,034 --> 00:29:31,102
that were just
691
00:29:31,102 --> 00:29:33,171
horrendously bad bosses that work for
692
00:29:33,171 --> 00:29:35,340
it would be my father in law,
693
00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:36,908
the labor foreman
694
00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:40,411
and the construction superintendent.
695
00:29:40,512 --> 00:29:43,114
They all made me better at that.
696
00:29:43,114 --> 00:29:44,215
I mean, really quick.
697
00:29:44,215 --> 00:29:45,316
I mean, they
698
00:29:45,316 --> 00:29:46,417
if you ask anybody
699
00:29:46,417 --> 00:29:47,418
that worked for those companies,
700
00:29:47,418 --> 00:29:48,153
they would say that
701
00:29:48,153 --> 00:29:50,088
those are the best crew that's out there.
702
00:29:50,088 --> 00:29:51,055
And when I talk to you guys,
703
00:29:51,055 --> 00:29:52,457
since I got away from it
704
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:54,125
and they about it,
705
00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:55,193
I still have some friends
706
00:29:55,193 --> 00:29:56,227
that work for the same company
707
00:29:56,227 --> 00:29:58,229
at the same time and the same people,
708
00:29:58,229 --> 00:29:59,597
and they've gone on to do other things
709
00:29:59,597 --> 00:30:00,298
and they will tell you
710
00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:02,333
that was in their entire career
711
00:30:02,333 --> 00:30:02,934
the best people,
712
00:30:02,934 --> 00:30:04,435
the smartest carpenters,
713
00:30:04,435 --> 00:30:05,170
the best workers
714
00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:07,505
they've ever been around. Okay.
715
00:30:07,505 --> 00:30:08,673
So I think there's this.
716
00:30:08,673 --> 00:30:09,774
Plus, I was compensated
717
00:30:09,774 --> 00:30:11,676
very well back then.
718
00:30:11,676 --> 00:30:14,379
I was making about $18 an hour
719
00:30:14,379 --> 00:30:16,648
and plus all the benefits and everything
720
00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:17,816
which the people were raising
721
00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:19,083
families on that. You know what I mean?
722
00:30:19,083 --> 00:31:44,102
I was a single, single guy, Yeah.
723
00:31:44,202 --> 00:31:45,003
well, I don't know.
724
00:31:45,003 --> 00:31:46,004
Have you seen me around?
725
00:31:46,004 --> 00:31:47,605
The guys I work with in training?
726
00:31:47,605 --> 00:31:53,144
I'm pretty rough them.
727
00:31:53,211 --> 00:31:56,114
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
728
00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:58,349
I have a, I have a way of getting across.
729
00:31:58,349 --> 00:32:01,019
Like I'm yelling and screaming
730
00:32:01,019 --> 00:32:03,421
and, you know, how could you do this?
731
00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:06,090
But everybody's kind of laughing,
732
00:32:06,090 --> 00:32:07,158
you know what I mean?
733
00:32:07,158 --> 00:32:10,028
Nobody, you know.
734
00:32:10,028 --> 00:32:11,596
Well, you've seen me at training,
735
00:32:11,596 --> 00:32:21,873
so you know that deal, it's.
736
00:32:21,973 --> 00:32:24,809
But I get my point across too.
737
00:32:24,809 --> 00:32:26,945
Yeah.
738
00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:27,245
Yeah.
739
00:32:27,245 --> 00:32:28,146
So I would say that I'm
740
00:32:28,146 --> 00:32:33,217
probably a fantastic boss now,
741
00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:34,585
but I'm really not the boss
742
00:32:34,585 --> 00:32:35,320
at these things.
743
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,221
I'm more of the foreman,
744
00:32:37,221 --> 00:32:38,056
you know what I mean?
745
00:32:38,056 --> 00:32:44,929
These the boss.
746
00:32:44,996 --> 00:32:46,431
These the boss.
747
00:32:46,431 --> 00:32:49,734
Now, my dad
748
00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:53,771
completely different than my uncle
749
00:32:53,838 --> 00:32:56,607
and learned a ton of stuff from my dad.
750
00:32:56,607 --> 00:33:01,112
Okay? But my dad was everybody's buddy.
751
00:33:01,212 --> 00:33:03,014
Liar's Poker
752
00:33:03,014 --> 00:33:05,984
once his last and way too long.
753
00:33:06,017 --> 00:33:08,686
You know storytelling, right?
754
00:33:08,686 --> 00:33:10,321
That was my dad.
755
00:33:10,321 --> 00:33:13,424
So where my uncle was a prick
756
00:33:13,424 --> 00:33:15,827
and got amazing results,
757
00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:18,062
my dad was everybody's buddy.
758
00:33:18,062 --> 00:33:20,231
And I would say
759
00:33:20,231 --> 00:33:24,202
that the results were mixed.
760
00:33:24,268 --> 00:33:27,071
You know, the results were mixed.
761
00:33:27,071 --> 00:33:29,440
Like, you could see that
762
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,641
sometimes my uncle would get
763
00:33:30,641 --> 00:33:32,577
a little frustrated on time.
764
00:33:32,577 --> 00:33:33,845
It was taken
765
00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:39,050
for my dad's jobs compared to his jobs,
766
00:33:39,117 --> 00:33:40,184
but he was great.
767
00:33:40,184 --> 00:33:42,653
You loved working for him.
768
00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:43,087
You know,
769
00:33:43,087 --> 00:33:44,522
you love working for him
770
00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:47,392
because he was a, you know, fun guy
771
00:33:47,392 --> 00:33:50,395
and you learned a ton like he wouldn't
772
00:33:50,561 --> 00:33:51,829
he wouldn't mind taking,
773
00:33:51,829 --> 00:33:54,432
you know, stopping the entire job
774
00:33:54,432 --> 00:33:55,600
and then
775
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,367
showing somebody
776
00:33:56,367 --> 00:33:58,136
how to measure and do something
777
00:33:58,136 --> 00:34:00,338
where everybody could learn, where,
778
00:34:00,338 --> 00:34:02,173
you know, my uncle would be like,
779
00:34:02,173 --> 00:34:03,608
forget it's nobody's frickin business.
780
00:34:03,608 --> 00:34:06,010
Just, you know, go
781
00:34:06,077 --> 00:34:07,678
where my dad was.
782
00:34:07,678 --> 00:34:09,080
He like, being a teacher,
783
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,447
You know,
784
00:34:09,447 --> 00:34:10,815
he liked
785
00:34:10,815 --> 00:34:11,682
showing people
786
00:34:11,682 --> 00:34:13,518
and making sure that everybody knew.
787
00:34:13,518 --> 00:34:15,453
Right. And
788
00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:16,154
I mean, there's
789
00:34:16,154 --> 00:34:19,791
a lot of nights that we were
790
00:34:19,891 --> 00:34:22,627
in just spitting on approaches
791
00:34:22,627 --> 00:34:24,195
while my dad is just going
792
00:34:24,195 --> 00:34:25,329
through a numbers of stuff
793
00:34:25,329 --> 00:34:26,297
to make sure everything's
794
00:34:26,297 --> 00:34:28,299
going to fit right in this, that,
795
00:34:28,299 --> 00:34:31,536
And we'd be there for hours, like hours
796
00:34:31,536 --> 00:34:32,904
and Fred
797
00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:34,005
would come in the next day
798
00:34:34,005 --> 00:34:35,239
and we got to ball returns
799
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,674
in when we should have had 30th.
800
00:34:36,674 --> 00:34:37,809
You know.
801
00:34:37,809 --> 00:34:40,678
If yeah.
802
00:34:40,678 --> 00:34:43,081
The great great working for a nice guy.
803
00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:44,115
I'll tell you something.
804
00:34:44,115 --> 00:34:45,883
I was on a job one time
805
00:34:45,883 --> 00:34:49,687
when my father in law took over a job
806
00:34:49,687 --> 00:34:51,456
from a superintendent who got fired.
807
00:34:51,456 --> 00:34:52,457
Okay?
808
00:34:52,457 --> 00:34:53,591
So he goes, Hey,
809
00:34:53,591 --> 00:34:55,726
we're going to a new job,
810
00:34:55,726 --> 00:34:57,895
and there's the address, whatever.
811
00:34:57,895 --> 00:34:58,696
And he brought two
812
00:34:58,696 --> 00:34:59,931
or three of his other guys with him.
813
00:34:59,931 --> 00:35:01,666
They stayed with him all the time.
814
00:35:01,666 --> 00:35:02,800
You know, usually
815
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,035
when you're in a corporate
816
00:35:04,035 --> 00:35:06,571
union or labor union, the job is over.
817
00:35:06,571 --> 00:35:07,805
You go to the hall,
818
00:35:07,805 --> 00:35:09,373
you just wait for the next job.
819
00:35:09,373 --> 00:35:11,175
But he took certain guys
820
00:35:11,175 --> 00:35:12,076
with him to every job.
821
00:35:12,076 --> 00:35:14,178
That's why he got the good crew
822
00:35:14,178 --> 00:35:16,214
and so he showed up at the job there.
823
00:35:16,214 --> 00:35:17,248
And I don't know what's going on
824
00:35:17,248 --> 00:35:18,649
and dumb, dumb kid.
825
00:35:18,649 --> 00:35:20,151
And he knows.
826
00:35:20,151 --> 00:35:22,086
He goes, All right, we lined up.
827
00:35:22,086 --> 00:35:23,187
So he lined up in the morning
828
00:35:23,187 --> 00:35:26,124
outside the trailer and he goes, So I
829
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:26,724
you guys may
830
00:35:26,724 --> 00:35:27,825
or may not know
831
00:35:27,825 --> 00:35:30,595
your boss so-and-so just got fired.
832
00:35:30,595 --> 00:35:33,865
Okay? You're no longer with the company.
833
00:35:33,931 --> 00:35:36,400
I have a theory about things like that.
834
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,101
I don't think
835
00:35:37,101 --> 00:35:38,569
guys get fired on their own.
836
00:35:38,569 --> 00:35:40,905
I think they have a lot of help
837
00:35:40,905 --> 00:35:43,107
and I think it came from you.
838
00:35:43,107 --> 00:35:45,943
So I'm going to tell you guys right now.
839
00:35:45,943 --> 00:35:47,645
I see one of you guys, blah, blah.
840
00:35:47,645 --> 00:35:49,947
They what I do is Yes, yes.
841
00:35:49,947 --> 00:36:13,604
I
842
00:36:13,671 --> 00:36:52,877
Yeah.
843
00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:54,545
This, that and that.
844
00:36:54,545 --> 00:36:57,548
All for the better though
845
00:36:57,715 --> 00:37:00,051
you know
846
00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:03,054
the is it better
847
00:37:03,154 --> 00:37:09,860
or is it that we're getting older.
848
00:37:09,927 --> 00:37:11,362
I know you don't age
849
00:37:11,362 --> 00:37:12,997
I know you don't age
850
00:37:12,997 --> 00:37:15,099
you get your hair and you get the color.
851
00:37:15,099 --> 00:37:16,100
You don't even turn gray.
852
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:34,252
I don't know how you do it.
853
00:37:34,318 --> 00:37:40,458
Yeah.
854
00:37:40,524 --> 00:37:40,925
I'll tell you
855
00:37:40,925 --> 00:37:41,659
another story
856
00:37:41,659 --> 00:37:45,029
about one of the worst bosses I read
857
00:37:45,129 --> 00:37:46,764
when I worked for Hoboken.
858
00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:47,932
I can say Hoboken because
859
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:50,234
they're not around anymore.
860
00:37:50,301 --> 00:37:52,737
And I was out sick
861
00:37:52,737 --> 00:37:54,038
for like a week and a half.
862
00:37:54,038 --> 00:37:56,007
I had pneumonia
863
00:37:56,007 --> 00:37:59,010
and we had brought a new product in
864
00:37:59,243 --> 00:38:01,445
and they brought the product into the pro
865
00:38:01,445 --> 00:38:02,446
shop that I ran.
866
00:38:02,446 --> 00:38:03,881
I was a manager up
867
00:38:03,881 --> 00:38:07,285
and they brought it in and
868
00:38:07,351 --> 00:38:08,753
it was because I asked them to.
869
00:38:08,753 --> 00:38:10,821
So my butt was on the line
870
00:38:10,821 --> 00:38:12,857
for this product category,
871
00:38:12,857 --> 00:38:15,726
but I had a good feeling about it.
872
00:38:15,726 --> 00:38:17,094
So when I got back to work,
873
00:38:17,094 --> 00:38:20,598
I noticed that we had sold a bunch of it,
874
00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:22,500
you know?
875
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,671
So I'm like, great, this is awesome.
876
00:38:26,771 --> 00:38:28,339
So I look in the computer to
877
00:38:28,339 --> 00:38:32,376
who bought it and I can't find anybody.
878
00:38:32,476 --> 00:38:34,679
I can't find who bought it, right?
879
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:36,981
But all this stuff is missing.
880
00:38:37,048 --> 00:38:37,348
So I'm
881
00:38:37,348 --> 00:38:39,116
talking to the warehouse manager,
882
00:38:39,116 --> 00:38:40,484
I'm talking to a sales guy.
883
00:38:40,484 --> 00:38:41,285
I'm like,
884
00:38:41,285 --> 00:38:43,888
hey, we're you know, we're this product.
885
00:38:43,888 --> 00:38:45,489
Go, Where did this and that go?
886
00:38:45,489 --> 00:38:45,856
You know,
887
00:38:45,856 --> 00:38:46,657
I mean,
888
00:38:46,657 --> 00:38:46,857
you know,
889
00:38:46,857 --> 00:38:48,159
it was all new
890
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,528
and everybody's just kind of
891
00:38:50,528 --> 00:38:54,632
shrugging their shoulders, you know?
892
00:38:54,732 --> 00:38:55,366
So I'm like,
893
00:38:55,366 --> 00:38:56,567
Jesus, this is,
894
00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:56,901
you know,
895
00:38:56,901 --> 00:38:59,904
my butt's on the line for this stuff
896
00:38:59,904 --> 00:39:04,608
and it's missing
897
00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:07,945
a contractor.
898
00:39:08,045 --> 00:39:09,547
I'm talking to a contractor.
899
00:39:09,547 --> 00:39:10,815
And he goes,
900
00:39:10,815 --> 00:39:11,916
You really don't know what's going
901
00:39:11,916 --> 00:39:13,851
on, do I said, No.
902
00:39:13,851 --> 00:39:14,919
And he goes,
903
00:39:14,919 --> 00:39:16,053
One of the truck drivers
904
00:39:16,053 --> 00:39:17,021
sells product
905
00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:17,955
out of the truck,
906
00:39:17,955 --> 00:39:21,292
even gave me a price list.
907
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,994
I was like, You're kidding, you know?
908
00:39:23,994 --> 00:39:25,396
And he shows me this handwritten
909
00:39:25,396 --> 00:39:27,898
price list.
910
00:39:27,898 --> 00:39:29,333
So I take it
911
00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:31,802
to the guy who was managing the
912
00:39:31,802 --> 00:39:33,838
whole company,
913
00:39:33,938 --> 00:39:37,208
the whole our division,
914
00:39:37,274 --> 00:39:37,908
take it to him.
915
00:39:37,908 --> 00:39:41,746
And I go, Hey, this is what's going on.
916
00:39:41,812 --> 00:39:42,279
I said,
917
00:39:42,279 --> 00:39:44,582
You know, he's selling it out the back.
918
00:39:44,582 --> 00:39:45,950
You know, this is happening.
919
00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:47,284
I'm missing product.
920
00:39:47,284 --> 00:39:48,853
And, you know, every time we do
921
00:39:48,853 --> 00:39:50,354
an inventory are always short.
922
00:39:50,354 --> 00:39:50,621
I'm like,
923
00:39:50,621 --> 00:39:53,391
How come we can never be won over?
924
00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:56,227
Why are we always short?
925
00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:57,061
So here I am.
926
00:39:57,061 --> 00:40:00,431
I cracked the code, I figured it out.
927
00:40:00,498 --> 00:40:04,301
Three days later, he fires me,
928
00:40:04,368 --> 00:40:06,203
the whistleblower gets fired.
929
00:40:06,203 --> 00:40:07,772
Right?
930
00:40:07,772 --> 00:40:11,809
Then I'm talking to another guy who says,
931
00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:15,946
Yeah, the warehouse guy, the manager.
932
00:40:16,013 --> 00:40:17,815
They're all in on it, Rob.
933
00:40:17,815 --> 00:40:19,884
They're all making money.
934
00:40:19,884 --> 00:40:20,518
And I'm like,
935
00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:22,987
What am I, the last innocent man?
936
00:40:22,987 --> 00:40:25,022
Nobody said, Hey, Rob,
937
00:40:25,022 --> 00:40:26,590
you want a little taste?
938
00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:29,693
Nothing, right?
939
00:40:29,794 --> 00:40:31,996
I lose my job
940
00:40:31,996 --> 00:40:35,366
for being the whistle blower
941
00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:36,300
and then the guy.
942
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:37,435
And then this guy tells me,
943
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:38,669
he goes, Yeah, man.
944
00:40:38,669 --> 00:40:40,137
He goes, It's sad to see this.
945
00:40:40,137 --> 00:40:42,973
He said, But that's why you got canned.
946
00:40:42,973 --> 00:40:44,608
He goes, They're all in on it.
947
00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:46,644
They've always all been in on it.
948
00:40:46,644 --> 00:40:48,379
And I was like, You.
949
00:40:48,379 --> 00:40:49,380
And he goes, That's,
950
00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:50,381
you know, there's wood,
951
00:40:50,381 --> 00:40:51,715
there's this, there's that.
952
00:40:51,715 --> 00:40:54,718
And I was like, You got to be
953
00:40:54,819 --> 00:40:55,419
kidding me.
954
00:40:55,419 --> 00:40:57,888
So I'm going to put him as
955
00:40:57,888 --> 00:41:00,858
my worst boss ever
956
00:41:00,858 --> 00:41:03,861
any and to my face,
957
00:41:04,094 --> 00:41:06,230
we were pals.
958
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:09,767
We were we were the best of friends
959
00:41:09,834 --> 00:41:13,304
until, like.
960
00:41:13,404 --> 00:41:16,407
Yeah.
961
00:41:16,507 --> 00:41:16,607
more.
962
00:41:16,607 --> 00:41:18,476
The boss I had in construction,
963
00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:22,179
this guy was an alcoholic
964
00:41:22,246 --> 00:41:25,015
and really bad at his job.
965
00:41:25,015 --> 00:41:26,917
But they hired him and they said,
966
00:41:26,917 --> 00:41:27,351
You know what?
967
00:41:27,351 --> 00:41:29,153
He's only got six more months for retire.
968
00:41:29,153 --> 00:41:30,488
So that I'm just doing staying
969
00:41:30,488 --> 00:41:33,791
and he'll be out of here and
970
00:41:33,858 --> 00:41:34,758
we have a new job start.
971
00:41:34,758 --> 00:41:37,728
And one time a huge, huge building.
972
00:41:37,728 --> 00:41:38,562
And he goes, Wayne,
973
00:41:38,562 --> 00:41:40,431
you're going to be here for three years
974
00:41:40,431 --> 00:41:41,198
as it you're kidding
975
00:41:41,198 --> 00:41:42,700
because in construction
976
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:43,834
that's that's nice.
977
00:41:43,834 --> 00:41:47,171
I mean, it Three years.
978
00:41:47,238 --> 00:42:35,486
Damn.
979
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,588
Yeah.
980
00:42:37,588 --> 00:42:42,726
See?
981
00:42:42,793 --> 00:42:44,428
well, we got the car.
982
00:42:44,428 --> 00:42:48,299
Let's get the car.
983
00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:52,202
So let me ask you, what motivates you?
984
00:42:52,303 --> 00:42:55,306
If somebody was going to be your boss,
985
00:42:55,306 --> 00:42:56,574
you made it more of them.
986
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:57,508
Are you motivated?
987
00:42:57,508 --> 00:42:59,743
Are you motivated more by money
988
00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:03,681
or praise,
989
00:43:03,747 --> 00:43:06,483
acknowledgment, praise
990
00:43:06,483 --> 00:43:17,761
or money?
991
00:43:17,861 --> 00:43:19,096
I don't know if these are keys.
992
00:43:19,096 --> 00:43:21,398
I just I just made them money.
993
00:43:21,398 --> 00:43:23,701
The acknowledgment or praise,
994
00:43:23,701 --> 00:43:25,169
I think praise and acknowledgment
995
00:43:25,169 --> 00:43:28,939
of the same thing.
996
00:43:29,006 --> 00:43:31,875
Well, in my career,
997
00:43:31,875 --> 00:43:33,243
man, they're all tied together,
998
00:43:33,243 --> 00:43:34,778
man, is you're young
999
00:43:34,778 --> 00:43:35,846
and you have a family and everything.
1000
00:43:35,846 --> 00:43:37,514
The money is important.
1001
00:43:37,514 --> 00:43:38,716
And then the
1002
00:43:38,716 --> 00:43:39,416
but the praise and the
1003
00:43:39,416 --> 00:43:44,254
other stuff's important to
1004
00:43:44,355 --> 00:43:44,922
money.
1005
00:43:44,922 --> 00:43:46,890
I mean, money.
1006
00:43:46,890 --> 00:43:47,625
I know.
1007
00:43:47,625 --> 00:43:48,058
I know.
1008
00:43:48,058 --> 00:43:48,826
Money is money.
1009
00:43:48,826 --> 00:43:56,867
Yeah, I get it.
1010
00:43:56,934 --> 00:44:10,014
Yes.
1011
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,348
All right.
1012
00:44:11,348 --> 00:44:15,386
Let me put it another way.
1013
00:44:15,452 --> 00:44:18,022
I don't know how to put it another way.
1014
00:44:18,022 --> 00:44:21,025
What would drive you to do a better job?
1015
00:44:21,258 --> 00:44:24,261
Money or praise?
1016
00:44:24,294 --> 00:44:26,664
What would make you work
1017
00:44:26,664 --> 00:44:34,538
harder?
1018
00:44:34,605 --> 00:44:37,908
I That's it.
1019
00:44:37,975 --> 00:44:40,978
I, I think you just nailed it.
1020
00:44:41,145 --> 00:44:42,980
I think you absolutely nailed it.
1021
00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:45,683
I mean, I know what it is for me.
1022
00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,484
I figured it out a long time ago.
1023
00:44:47,484 --> 00:44:48,852
Yeah, he.
1024
00:44:48,852 --> 00:44:49,987
He pat me on the head
1025
00:44:49,987 --> 00:44:51,755
and tell a group of people
1026
00:44:51,755 --> 00:44:53,090
that Rob is a stud.
1027
00:44:53,090 --> 00:44:55,325
I'll work 24 seven for you.
1028
00:44:55,325 --> 00:44:56,427
Okay.
1029
00:44:56,427 --> 00:44:57,828
And the,
1030
00:44:57,828 --> 00:44:59,363
you know, the three my last
1031
00:44:59,363 --> 00:45:00,164
three bosses
1032
00:45:00,164 --> 00:45:00,698
that I had
1033
00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:02,599
since I've been on the
1034
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:04,301
manufacturing side.
1035
00:45:04,301 --> 00:45:05,469
Got that.
1036
00:45:05,469 --> 00:45:06,970
Okay, all three of it.
1037
00:45:06,970 --> 00:45:08,172
Got it.
1038
00:45:08,172 --> 00:45:09,440
I mean,
1039
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,378
absolute pleasure to work for because
1040
00:45:14,445 --> 00:45:15,946
they gave me acknowledgment.
1041
00:45:15,946 --> 00:45:16,814
Give me some praise.
1042
00:45:16,814 --> 00:45:17,881
I mean, the money's great.
1043
00:45:17,881 --> 00:45:18,615
Don't get me wrong.
1044
00:45:18,615 --> 00:45:21,452
I'm not going to do it for free.
1045
00:45:21,452 --> 00:45:23,187
But
1046
00:45:23,187 --> 00:45:26,957
I think that's what motivates me
1047
00:45:27,024 --> 00:45:28,959
to do a better job.
1048
00:45:28,959 --> 00:45:29,760
Or do,
1049
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,661
you know, try to go
1050
00:45:30,661 --> 00:45:50,214
the extra mile personally,
1051
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,283
I'll tell you, I've really I mean it.
1052
00:45:53,283 --> 00:45:56,353
I kind of knew this for years, but,
1053
00:45:56,353 --> 00:45:56,653
you know,
1054
00:45:56,653 --> 00:45:57,855
sometimes in training
1055
00:45:57,855 --> 00:45:59,723
we'll go out and we'll
1056
00:45:59,723 --> 00:46:00,991
we'll do an individual
1057
00:46:00,991 --> 00:46:01,825
training for a company.
1058
00:46:01,825 --> 00:46:03,360
A company's big enough,
1059
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,661
you know, we'll
1060
00:46:04,661 --> 00:46:05,562
we'll do the training
1061
00:46:05,562 --> 00:46:07,064
for them at their facility
1062
00:46:07,064 --> 00:46:08,232
if they get, you know.
1063
00:46:08,232 --> 00:46:11,535
So we were down south someplace
1064
00:46:11,602 --> 00:46:13,670
and man,
1065
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:15,305
I was working with Robbie on this one.
1066
00:46:15,305 --> 00:46:17,975
Robbie and I still talk about this,
1067
00:46:17,975 --> 00:46:22,012
where you can tell right off the bat that
1068
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,114
the hatred between this guy,
1069
00:46:24,114 --> 00:46:27,885
the owner and his crew was incredible.
1070
00:46:28,152 --> 00:46:31,655
Okay?
1071
00:46:31,755 --> 00:46:33,257
I mean, like,
1072
00:46:33,257 --> 00:46:37,427
no hatred I had ever seen in my life.
1073
00:46:37,494 --> 00:46:39,296
And I remember him saying to me
1074
00:46:39,296 --> 00:46:42,132
and these aholes he's
1075
00:46:42,132 --> 00:46:44,234
talking about his own crew.
1076
00:46:44,234 --> 00:46:44,601
He goes,
1077
00:46:44,601 --> 00:46:46,003
You would not believe
1078
00:46:46,003 --> 00:46:48,772
how much I pay these aholes.
1079
00:46:48,772 --> 00:46:50,274
They're making more money
1080
00:46:50,274 --> 00:46:52,609
than they've ever made in their life
1081
00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:54,411
and they don't appreciate it.
1082
00:46:54,411 --> 00:46:56,146
And I just
1083
00:46:56,146 --> 00:46:56,947
and he took that
1084
00:46:56,947 --> 00:46:58,182
Robbie and I and he goes,
1085
00:46:58,182 --> 00:47:05,289
I just hate these guys.
1086
00:47:05,355 --> 00:47:07,457
And when he's out of the room,
1087
00:47:07,457 --> 00:47:08,292
the guys are saying
1088
00:47:08,292 --> 00:47:11,195
the same stuff about him and
1089
00:47:11,195 --> 00:47:14,198
I never Robbie looked at me and he goes,
1090
00:47:14,264 --> 00:47:15,899
Hey, partner, I know we got one more day.
1091
00:47:15,899 --> 00:47:16,366
Here he goes,
1092
00:47:16,366 --> 00:47:17,701
Let's try to wrap this up quick
1093
00:47:17,701 --> 00:47:21,972
and get the hell out of here.
1094
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:26,410
So
1095
00:47:26,476 --> 00:47:28,412
though, what my point to that story
1096
00:47:28,412 --> 00:47:32,216
is, money is not always the motivator,
1097
00:47:32,282 --> 00:47:37,754
You know what I mean?
1098
00:47:37,821 --> 00:47:38,088
That.
1099
00:47:38,088 --> 00:47:39,189
Yes.
1100
00:47:39,189 --> 00:47:55,806
Yeah,
1101
00:47:55,906 --> 00:48:08,886
yeah.
1102
00:48:08,986 --> 00:48:09,853
my gosh.
1103
00:48:09,853 --> 00:48:10,320
Yeah.
1104
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,422
I mean, I'm going to name names.
1105
00:48:12,422 --> 00:48:14,892
My last two bosses,
1106
00:48:14,892 --> 00:48:16,793
Dee Leinster and Bill Price.
1107
00:48:16,793 --> 00:48:18,128
I mean,
1108
00:48:18,128 --> 00:48:21,632
I and maybe I'm older, so I don't know.
1109
00:48:21,632 --> 00:48:23,233
But absolutely
1110
00:48:23,233 --> 00:48:24,268
the two best bosses
1111
00:48:24,268 --> 00:48:26,536
I've ever had in my life.
1112
00:48:26,536 --> 00:48:27,905
I mean, they did everything.
1113
00:48:27,905 --> 00:48:29,273
They had the praise.
1114
00:48:29,273 --> 00:48:31,241
They were good coaches.
1115
00:48:31,241 --> 00:48:32,910
I mean, when you were down,
1116
00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:33,977
they could bring you up.
1117
00:48:33,977 --> 00:48:36,513
I mean, they really
1118
00:48:36,513 --> 00:48:39,750
it was just I'm I got lucky.
1119
00:48:39,850 --> 00:48:42,452
I got really lucky
1120
00:48:42,452 --> 00:48:43,887
yeah. I think that's important.
1121
00:48:43,887 --> 00:48:47,691
I think a path forward, too, is like,
1122
00:48:47,691 --> 00:48:48,258
you know, if,
1123
00:48:48,258 --> 00:48:49,393
if you're trying to move up
1124
00:48:49,393 --> 00:48:50,928
whatever you've be trying to, you know,
1125
00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:52,296
what's the next step,
1126
00:48:52,296 --> 00:48:53,864
kind of knowing where you're at
1127
00:48:53,864 --> 00:48:55,432
in a,
1128
00:48:55,432 --> 00:48:57,334
you know, in the plans in the future.
1129
00:48:57,334 --> 00:48:59,169
And that kind of stuff is important too.
1130
00:48:59,169 --> 00:49:00,604
So I think money is important.
1131
00:49:00,604 --> 00:49:01,672
Obviously, the money is important.
1132
00:49:01,672 --> 00:49:02,839
But like I said,
1133
00:49:02,839 --> 00:49:05,008
I have never seen a bad employee
1134
00:49:05,008 --> 00:49:06,643
also and turn around and be good
1135
00:49:06,643 --> 00:49:07,911
because you got more
1136
00:49:07,911 --> 00:49:09,313
because you threw more money at it,
1137
00:49:09,313 --> 00:49:11,081
right, Ed?
1138
00:49:11,081 --> 00:49:15,752
It doesn't work in pro sports either.
1139
00:49:15,852 --> 00:49:19,189
Does not work in pro sports.
1140
00:49:19,256 --> 00:49:20,624
I mean, you know, look at the
1141
00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:22,559
look at Bill Belichick.
1142
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:25,829
He was not liked by many people,
1143
00:49:25,929 --> 00:49:27,831
but he got results.
1144
00:49:27,831 --> 00:49:28,865
And some people would
1145
00:49:28,865 --> 00:49:30,734
want to play for him
1146
00:49:30,734 --> 00:49:31,868
not because of the money,
1147
00:49:31,868 --> 00:49:34,338
but because of the results.
1148
00:49:34,338 --> 00:49:36,173
They could make money someplace else.
1149
00:49:36,173 --> 00:50:18,115
They wanted results.
1150
00:50:18,215 --> 00:51:15,138
Yeah,
1151
00:51:15,205 --> 00:51:16,907
I agree.
1152
00:51:16,907 --> 00:51:19,543
Good show.
1153
00:51:19,543 --> 00:51:24,414
Wrap it up.
1154
00:51:24,514 --> 00:51:27,484
This has been another blank show.