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Hello, and welcome to another episode
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of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
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I'm Wayne Highlander,
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director of sales for Bowen Adhesives.
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And I'm Rob Johnson from the
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Moana training.
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How are we doing, Rob?
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Pretty good.
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How's it going?
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Yeah.
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Nice of you to dress up today.
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It's, it's a Okay.
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Okay, I see the Bowen. Okay.
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I just saw that up. too.
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It's one of,
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you know, it's it's clean Oh.
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Good deal, Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, this podcast today
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might be all over the place.
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we're talking
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about a few different things.
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whoa whoa whoa.
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This one might be all over the place
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Yeah, I got a feeling.
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as compared to The risks
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that are all over the place.
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If,
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Buckle up, everybody.
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Yeah.
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So, it just occurred to me,
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because I know somebody that,
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that was retiring out of the trade and,
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Rob. And I started talking about it.
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you know,
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when you
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in the flooring industry,
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and a lot of entrepreneurs
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and whatever, and people
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in the construction industry,
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when you, when you retire, you
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you quit doing floors.
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it's not like working at a corporation
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where you worked at, say,
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Toyota for for 30 years.
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And at the end of the 30 years,
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everybody, you know,
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you know,
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gives you a keg and sits down
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to congratulate
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you and gives you a watch or whatever.
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And there's a lot of fanfare
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and recognition for all that you've done.
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And, you get a nice sendoff
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and what have you.
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And I know
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so many people in the flooring industry
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that have retired
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or left the industry and, and,
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and it's not so much it's,
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you know what I mean?
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You just kind of go away.
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And I think that's kind of sad sometimes.
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And in a way, it's,
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there's two sides to that.
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And the other side is that, well,
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you know,
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there's a lot more freedom
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in the corporate structure
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and there's you're not, you know,
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reporting and punching the clock
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and those that's the good side of it.
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But but it just occurred to me,
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I know so many people and I know
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everybody probably does that.
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Was doing floors for a long time
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and and just and just left the industry
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and you kind of don't
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hear about them anymore.
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so I think we wanted to one recognize
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those guys
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and gals, whoever is in that position
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and,
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I think that's something that
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maybe we would talk about first.
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What do you say, Rob?
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Yeah. Let's.
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Let's give this a try.
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Okay. Think. Okay.
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Thanks for your input of the.
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you know,
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I was reading something about, about,
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you know, heroes and heroism
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and that kind of stuff, and, and,
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I thought, well,
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you know, some somebody that,
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that, sacrifices their, their, their,
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their whole life and career
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bringing home a check
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for their family and, and everything.
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And it's a very selfless act to do.
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that that to me is a hero.
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And that's somebody that that deserves
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that recognition.
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And, and, you know, a true hero
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sometimes it it always is it.
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In fact, there's a quote that says true
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hero, true
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heroism is remarkably
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sober and undramatic.
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And I think that's guys that
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get up every day
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and go to work
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and handle the responsibility and,
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and are accountable and, and, and,
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you know, do for their family.
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They're freaking heroes in my book, man.
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You know,
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when I see a guy at the counter,
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guy who's been in the trade
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for a long time, 20, 30,
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40 years, whatever.
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And I see him at the counter.
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I,
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I can't express how much respect for
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I have for those guys in the industry
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that do this hard work day in and day out
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that a lot of people can't appreciate.
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How, I had
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I had
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I had someone tell me the other day,
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He said.
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What maybe.
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you know,
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maybe one day when you retire,
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he goes, this guy's already tired.
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He goes,
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maybe we could flip houses.
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Like we could make, you know, buy houses
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and start flipping houses.
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No.
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I don't want any part of that
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as my new as my new toy man.
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It's my buzzer.
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yeah. Yeah.
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That's that's yours too.
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Yours.
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So
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I thought I and I told him,
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I said, you know, honestly, man,
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I, I have no desire to do that.
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I said, you know, my
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my body's pretty beat up.
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I had a lot of knee surgeries
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and my shoulders
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messed up in my back and whatever.
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And he said,
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now this is a guy that's not had a
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physical job his whole life.
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Is had a very much not a physical job.
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And he said, yeah,
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I've been kind of lucky my whole life.
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I've been pretty skinny.
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So I'm in pretty good shape.
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And I
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want to say, well, you know,
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I mean, you haven't gone to work.
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It's been eight hours
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on your knees all day
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long for days and months at a time.
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You haven't you haven't carried.
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Wouldn't pack, wouldn't swing,
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swung a hammer swing.
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Swung a hammer
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for years and years and years.
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Bent over at the waist all day long.
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And maybe that had a little
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something to do with it.
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You know what I mean?
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So, Yeah.
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Yeah, I'm. I'm not the guy, if.
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That's what you're looking.
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Zero.
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Really?
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Yes, but that's my point
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that you do two things about that.
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First of all, that's my point,
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is that that's not
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like he wouldn't have four guys.
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That's not a four guys.
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And, he is working at a corporation,
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you know what I mean?
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That's a corporation send off.
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If. You're lucky. Right?
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But a floor guy.
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And then the other thing he said, it's
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so funny to me
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is that he wasn't a 100% for a guy.
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I love that he said that because we all,
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we always
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we always judge guys
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like, well,
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he didn't do this, so he's not wrong.
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You know, you really if one guy.
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mean. It wasn't that I.
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What I meant by that was he wasn't
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doing floors 100% of the I know exactly.
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What you
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I know exactly what you meant by that.
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yeah. Absolutely. And you're right.
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but that's my point.
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you don't see a floor guy, like.
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I mean, the guy that puts
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his heart and soul and into the career
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in 30 years or 28 years
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or whatever into this trade
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and in busses,
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but and has all this knowledge
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that he's learned,
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and then he leaves the trade so often
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that there's no fanfare for him.
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There's no there's no hey, man,
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what a contribution you made.
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And look at all the work he did
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and how many times
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you know, you're in this industry,
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you're a floor man. You're a gunslinger.
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Every job you go to, you got a new boss,
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you got new expectations.
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You have new,
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you know, whether they're
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they're realistic or not. You have to.
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You've got a new set of circumstances,
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job site, everything
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that lighting, subfloor
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conditions, existing or not, whatever
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you have to manage, you that
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and you have to make that work
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and get paid and go on to the next one.
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You're gunslinger.
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And, you know,
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and we talked about it so many times
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and you could do 100 things right
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on that job.
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You could make 100 decisions.
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And one thing
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I can stop a check,
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a hair in the finish can stop a check.
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Somebody says
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that the brownies in his brownies
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I thought it was going to be.
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Can stop a check.
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And you did that.
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You put up with that for all them years?
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I just think that them guys deserves
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some recognition
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and we should give them their, their,
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you know, you know,
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if he's doing their 4040 again
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he just come out with the 40 under 40.
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And I love it.
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I like seeing people get recognition.
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Don't get me wrong.
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But I often think and I don't think it's
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because I'm getting old.
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I don't think that's that's the guy.
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I mean, I really
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I had such an appreciation.
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Now I really I truly,
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100%
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no no no no no, not at all.
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And the reason I say
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that is because I felt,
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you know, when my Uncle Stan taught me
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something I really appreciated
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everything I was learning,
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you know what I mean?
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And, everything I got from
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I truly, truly appreciated it.
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You know, I really did.
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So when I see these guys,
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the at the distributor
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or at the counter
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buying stuff or whatever,
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I see him on job sites, man.
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I just,
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we just have such an awesome respect
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for these guys and all that they do.
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And like I said,
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I think they're freaking heroes, man.
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I think they are.
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I think when you
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when you can support your family,
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especially a business
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or whatever, that you started
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and put everything on the line and,
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you've done it
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day in and day out,
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no matter what the conditions are,
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through different
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economies, through employees
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and different things
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you've had to go through
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and all the challenges.
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And in doing this business,
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I just think that it'd be somehow
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nice if, like, you know,
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not that these guys are dying, but it,
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I don't watch the Oscars
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so much anymore, but, you know,
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every year they say,
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oh, these are the guys that died,
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you know what I mean? In 2012.
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Whatever.
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I don't think there should be that,
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but there's.
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Right.
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Yeah,
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but there should be some recognition
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somehow.
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Wish we gave them some recognition of.
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Of what?
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What they've done for the industry.
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so anyhow, that's.
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so how are we going to do this?
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And look, why don't we.
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Let's do something.
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How are we going to do this?
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I got an idea
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now that I wasn't gonna do anything.
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Yeah. Just talking,
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but since you said that.
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Well, that's what we do best.
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Yeah, well, I don't know.
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but but.
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Since.
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You said that, there's a
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I mean, we could have something.
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If you want to recognize somebody,
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you could
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you could give us their name or whatever,
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and we could.
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We could mention them on it.
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But not only, you know what,
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you could mention their name
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and then,
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some things that they've done or,
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you know, in their career
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or if they've been a mentor
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or maybe you mentioned that as well.
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maybe we could do that
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and we'll give them a nice shout out.
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Maybe we'll send them something to.
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you know what?
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Let's. Let's.
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Let's do something like that.
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But not just, How about this?
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Let's have everybody send us.
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Send us a quick bio.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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everybody.
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Hey, because
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I don't think there's a lot of guys
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that retire from this.
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I don't think there is either.
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well, what the hell?
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What happens to them then?
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You know what I mean?
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Well,
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Well, here's there's a couple.
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There's a couple things.
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and when you started talking about this
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and wanting to do this show,
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I really started
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racking my brains
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about somebody
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who just
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woke up one day and said, all right,
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I am retired from the floor business.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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are guys.
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This is what I see in our business.
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More than
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more than guys dying
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and more than guys retiring.
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I see they just work less days.
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Okay.
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You're exactly right.
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And.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And the more I think about it
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and I think the more
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the guys really don't
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retire from it
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is because they
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Yeah I yeah you're right.
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I think that is a,
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that is probably
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what happens to most guys
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is they don't really retire.
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They slow down
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or take smaller jobs or they, you know,
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that type of thing,
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which I absolutely think is fantastic.
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I don't think there's
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anything wrong with that.
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And a lot of it,
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you know, the offset there,
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you know, the
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the Social Security
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and just that and the other.
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But, you know, also when you retire,
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you know, it's not all roses
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like a lot of guys think it is.
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Sometimes you,
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you retire and slow down
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and stop and everything.
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It's not good for you either.
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So by by doing that,
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you also stay kind of engaged.
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You know, your mind still works
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and everything you don't.
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I mean, once you start to really,
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really retire
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and, don't do anything, I think you
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the cognitive decline, sets in
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and you know what I mean.
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And also, I had a
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I know someone that retired and,
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you know, I asked him what
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what do you do?
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And and he goes, well, I,
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you know,
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I go down to the,
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to the,
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to the union hall
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and I, make breakfast
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for the guys in the morning
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and, we play bingo or something,
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man, I you shoot me in the head.
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Yeah, I'm not that.
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I ain't doing that. You know what I mean?
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I'd rather work in doing that.
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so I don't think it's a bad idea
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that that's the the
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the way that a lot of guys go,
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in their career
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is they start slowing down,
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doing smaller jobs and what have you.
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And especially
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I think there's a lot of opportunity
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for those guys in their career now
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because you've got the knowledge,
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you've got all this phenomenal knowledge.
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And you can take these small repair jobs
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and do little things
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or you know what I mean,
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and just take it,
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take one room
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that you would normally knock out
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in, in, in the, you know, day,
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that'd be your week's job.
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It's not a it's not a bad way to go out.
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You know, it's amazing how many.
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How many guys have told me that?
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Oh, yeah.
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My dad loves running the power drive.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's a
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lot of camaraderie
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involved in that, no doubt about it.
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and, I think that goes a long way.
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All right.
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And I think there's the second part
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to this.
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The show
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I wanted to talk about is,
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and is that
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if you have somebody that mentored you
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that taught you the, the industry,
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you know what I mean?
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Helped you as you went along.
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Imagine your.
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Imagine your your,
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Out of the blue.
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Somebody comes up to you
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that you mentored in the industry,
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you helped them along the way.
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And out of the blue is someone.
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Someone sends you a card
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or calls you to say thank you.
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Hey, man, you know what?
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I was just thinking today
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about all the stuff
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that I learned from you
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that I put into use today.
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And out of the blue,
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I think that will be so heartfelt
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and so nice for an old,
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you know, someone,
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you know,
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someone that mentored you to get that.
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And it don't even have to be a
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it could be like a distributor guy.
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There's a lot of distributors, sales reps
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that are phenomenal at helping helping,
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guys in this trade,
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you know what I mean?
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They have a lot of knowledge
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and experience to they know the industry.
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And, it could be just someone like that
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that's helped you along the way.
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How nice.
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How nice
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if you put yourself in that guy shoes
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that,
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out of the blue,
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someone that you worked with
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and helped teach the trade
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to and everything,
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just sent you something
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and with a nice
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thank you note, and,
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and did something like that for you
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or actually like, to your point,
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just mentioned them on the show,
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and, we'll,
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we'll, we'll say something about it
552
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might be a nice way to do it because,
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you know, men
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don't like to get lovey dovey, man.
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You know what I mean? I don't like it.
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You know what I mean?
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it's tough stuff sometimes.
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You gotta call somebody.
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Hey, man.
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Thank you. Whatever.
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Sometimes that's, you know,
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sometimes that's not. You.
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I bet
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if I put myself in
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a guy's shoes like that,
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maybe it was a journeyman carpenter
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that helped you along the way.
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And maybe he was a jerk.
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You know,
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he maybe you didn't even necessarily
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get along with them.
572
00:20:27,826 --> 00:20:28,794
I've.
573
00:20:28,794 --> 00:20:29,995
We've all probably worked
574
00:20:29,995 --> 00:20:30,629
with guys like that.
575
00:20:30,629 --> 00:20:30,829
I know
576
00:20:30,829 --> 00:20:31,597
you've talked about,
577
00:20:31,597 --> 00:20:33,966
someone that that used to work with you,
578
00:20:33,966 --> 00:20:34,866
your crew.
579
00:20:34,866 --> 00:20:37,236
That was an absolute maniac to work with.
580
00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:38,670
And you didn't get along with them.
581
00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:40,138
But
582
00:20:40,138 --> 00:20:42,407
you know what you learned?
583
00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:44,042
taught me everything I knew.
584
00:20:44,042 --> 00:20:47,045
Yeah.
585
00:20:51,516 --> 00:20:54,519
Easy.
586
00:20:57,623 --> 00:21:00,626
Yeah.
587
00:21:03,228 --> 00:21:06,231
There's some that.
588
00:21:06,632 --> 00:21:07,099
Yeah.
589
00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:10,102
There.
590
00:21:10,235 --> 00:21:11,603
There's definitely a couple of categories
591
00:21:11,603 --> 00:21:11,737
there.
592
00:21:11,737 --> 00:21:12,771
Yeah, there's some that I would
593
00:21:12,771 --> 00:21:14,573
some that I wouldn't.
594
00:21:14,573 --> 00:21:17,709
but, I, I think,
595
00:21:19,911 --> 00:21:20,946
Yeah. There you go.
596
00:21:20,946 --> 00:21:21,246
Yeah.
597
00:21:26,952 --> 00:21:28,487
I think.
598
00:21:28,487 --> 00:21:29,855
Yeah.
599
00:21:29,855 --> 00:21:32,858
Yeah.
600
00:21:33,158 --> 00:21:34,059
Well, I,
601
00:21:34,059 --> 00:21:37,062
I talked about that, he died of cancer.
602
00:21:37,129 --> 00:21:42,200
He pre.
603
00:21:43,168 --> 00:21:44,736
Yes, he pretty much did,
604
00:21:44,736 --> 00:21:46,905
and he slowed down
605
00:21:46,905 --> 00:21:47,839
and he turned the business
606
00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:48,640
over to his son.
607
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,207
And his son
608
00:21:49,207 --> 00:21:50,409
did a really great job with it.
609
00:21:50,409 --> 00:21:51,109
And still
610
00:21:51,109 --> 00:21:53,078
today, he's a damn good floor man.
611
00:21:53,078 --> 00:21:55,147
But he got he got towards. Yeah.
612
00:21:55,147 --> 00:21:56,114
And he just slowed down
613
00:21:56,114 --> 00:21:59,117
and did less work and more bidding jobs
614
00:21:59,251 --> 00:22:02,220
and, you know, you know,
615
00:22:02,220 --> 00:22:04,122
at that time he had raised a great family
616
00:22:04,122 --> 00:22:05,757
and had a nice house and everything,
617
00:22:05,757 --> 00:22:07,693
but it was in the end of his career
618
00:22:07,693 --> 00:22:08,460
and,
619
00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:10,162
and shortly after that
620
00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:12,964
and he had cancer and.
621
00:22:12,964 --> 00:22:13,031
you.
622
00:22:13,031 --> 00:22:15,400
Know, and passed away from, from that.
623
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,802
So. Yeah.
624
00:22:17,969 --> 00:22:20,405
I just don't think a lot of guys retire,
625
00:22:20,405 --> 00:22:23,375
you know? he retired.
626
00:22:23,375 --> 00:22:26,378
He did.
627
00:22:33,618 --> 00:22:34,453
Oh, he retired
628
00:22:34,453 --> 00:22:37,456
recently.
629
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:40,692
oh.
630
00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:41,526
Okay. That's recent.
631
00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:44,496
Okay. All right. Okay.
632
00:22:44,730 --> 00:22:47,232
and, so I called up his kids
633
00:22:47,232 --> 00:22:48,033
and his parents
634
00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:50,168
and everything, and, and buddies of mine,
635
00:22:50,168 --> 00:22:52,704
and I said, hey, let's have a party.
636
00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:54,339
We,
637
00:22:54,339 --> 00:22:57,576
you know, I just saw, he's retiring.
638
00:22:57,676 --> 00:23:00,679
You Yeah.
639
00:23:10,622 --> 00:23:13,625
Well.
640
00:23:24,536 --> 00:23:25,670
Nice.
641
00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:26,972
Yeah.
642
00:23:26,972 --> 00:23:30,108
But so I remember talking to him like,
643
00:23:30,642 --> 00:23:30,776
well,
644
00:23:30,776 --> 00:23:31,443
you're not going to sell
645
00:23:31,443 --> 00:23:34,212
your equipment, are you?
646
00:23:34,212 --> 00:23:36,581
And he's like, he's looking at me,
647
00:23:36,581 --> 00:23:39,584
you know, kind of sideways.
648
00:23:40,552 --> 00:23:41,019
Where are you?
649
00:23:41,019 --> 00:23:42,888
That.
650
00:23:42,888 --> 00:23:44,689
why am I selling?
651
00:23:44,689 --> 00:23:45,624
Say actually he said,
652
00:23:45,624 --> 00:23:47,893
why am I selling our equipment?
653
00:23:47,893 --> 00:23:50,896
Yeah.
654
00:23:57,102 --> 00:24:00,105
we them.
655
00:24:00,138 --> 00:24:01,740
Yeah,
656
00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:04,476
yeah.
657
00:24:04,476 --> 00:24:07,446
That's pretty funny.
658
00:24:21,259 --> 00:24:23,528
Yeah, yeah
659
00:24:23,528 --> 00:24:25,897
yeah yeah yeah
660
00:24:26,932 --> 00:24:28,900
yeah.
661
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:29,701
you know,
662
00:24:29,701 --> 00:24:30,735
I don't know what
663
00:24:30,735 --> 00:24:32,037
maybe they don't like their job
664
00:24:32,037 --> 00:24:33,371
and I'll get satisfaction.
665
00:24:33,371 --> 00:24:35,106
But
666
00:24:35,106 --> 00:24:37,442
I think wood floor guys,
667
00:24:37,442 --> 00:24:40,445
there's just a lot of satisfaction in
668
00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:41,913
finishing the job.
669
00:24:41,913 --> 00:24:43,648
The final coat looks great.
670
00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:46,451
I mean, it's a different feeling then.
671
00:24:46,451 --> 00:24:48,186
And I don't want to put words
672
00:24:48,186 --> 00:24:49,588
in anybody's mouth or,
673
00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:51,289
you know, I'm not
674
00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:53,792
trying to trash anybody or what they do.
675
00:24:53,792 --> 00:24:57,295
But I do think that's why a lot of guys
676
00:24:57,929 --> 00:25:01,266
don't really retire from this too much.
677
00:25:01,266 --> 00:25:02,634
It's because
678
00:25:02,634 --> 00:25:04,569
there's a good sense of accomplishment.
679
00:25:04,569 --> 00:25:06,404
You feel good.
680
00:25:06,404 --> 00:25:09,007
But like we were just saying, I think
681
00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:11,476
they just slow down a Yeah.
682
00:25:11,476 --> 00:25:13,044
Well, and,
683
00:25:13,044 --> 00:25:13,778
to be honest,
684
00:25:13,778 --> 00:25:14,312
I mean, it's
685
00:25:14,312 --> 00:25:16,147
every everybody is different.
686
00:25:16,147 --> 00:25:17,449
I mean, some people vary
687
00:25:17,449 --> 00:25:18,817
by the time they get to the end of it,
688
00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:20,151
they've done so much or whatever.
689
00:25:20,151 --> 00:25:21,820
They're just done with it all and
690
00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:22,454
and what have you.
691
00:25:22,454 --> 00:25:23,221
Maybe there's that.
692
00:25:23,221 --> 00:25:25,824
You know, I, you know, I mean. I, you.
693
00:25:25,824 --> 00:25:28,827
Know, there's probably that too, but
694
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,595
I don't know. And here's the thing.
695
00:25:30,595 --> 00:25:32,264
If somebody was your mentor
696
00:25:32,264 --> 00:25:34,799
or someone did teach you along the way,
697
00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:37,536
I think the one, the there's
698
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:38,637
a couple of things you have here.
699
00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:42,040
We we help somebody out.
700
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,408
And in the end,
701
00:25:43,408 --> 00:25:44,276
in the very end,
702
00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:45,277
feel like
703
00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:46,278
they didn't appreciate it,
704
00:25:46,278 --> 00:25:47,846
or maybe even worse,
705
00:25:47,846 --> 00:25:48,880
that you got taken advantage
706
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,082
of a little bit. You know what I mean?
707
00:25:51,082 --> 00:25:51,816
I think,
708
00:25:51,816 --> 00:25:53,351
if someone did help you out,
709
00:25:53,351 --> 00:25:55,520
one of the best things you can do
710
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,523
is, is,
711
00:25:59,891 --> 00:26:02,227
You know.
712
00:26:02,227 --> 00:26:03,762
Kind of take what they've,
713
00:26:03,762 --> 00:26:04,496
they've given you
714
00:26:04,496 --> 00:26:05,931
and extrapolate on that,
715
00:26:05,931 --> 00:26:06,865
you know what I mean?
716
00:26:06,865 --> 00:26:08,500
Use that for your baseline and everything
717
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:09,634
and just try to get better
718
00:26:09,634 --> 00:26:10,669
and try to improve what you
719
00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:11,570
what you learn.
720
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:14,573
I think you're always a generation
721
00:26:14,606 --> 00:26:15,907
should try to get,
722
00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:16,641
you know, better
723
00:26:16,641 --> 00:26:18,109
than the generation before them.
724
00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:19,177
You know what I mean?
725
00:26:19,177 --> 00:26:20,345
That you were taught this,
726
00:26:20,345 --> 00:26:21,980
and then you take it to another level
727
00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:22,948
before you hand it off,
728
00:26:22,948 --> 00:26:24,249
or you get done with it.
729
00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:27,252
and also,
730
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:29,688
to, to pay it forward,
731
00:26:29,688 --> 00:26:31,523
to pass it on to somebody else.
732
00:26:31,523 --> 00:26:32,557
And I think this industry
733
00:26:32,557 --> 00:26:34,259
is really good at that. Now.
734
00:26:34,259 --> 00:26:36,027
I think, like we always say,
735
00:26:36,027 --> 00:26:37,696
it is kind of a brotherhood.
736
00:26:37,696 --> 00:26:40,699
And, if somebody, you know, needs
737
00:26:40,699 --> 00:26:41,800
help, you see, on the internet
738
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,167
or whatever,
739
00:26:42,167 --> 00:26:42,968
if someone's stuck on
740
00:26:42,968 --> 00:26:43,835
a certain situation,
741
00:26:43,835 --> 00:26:44,903
whatever, it seems like everybody's
742
00:26:44,903 --> 00:26:47,405
willing to to help the person out,
743
00:26:47,405 --> 00:26:47,839
I think.
744
00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:49,140
I think our industry wasn't good
745
00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:51,242
about that, like 30 years ago,
746
00:26:51,242 --> 00:26:52,911
but I think it's kind of
747
00:26:52,911 --> 00:26:54,145
come full circle.
748
00:26:54,145 --> 00:26:55,747
And I think people are really pretty good
749
00:26:55,747 --> 00:26:57,115
about paying it forward.
750
00:26:57,115 --> 00:26:58,316
If I look at mentors
751
00:26:58,316 --> 00:26:59,551
I've had over the years
752
00:27:01,486 --> 00:27:04,389
that probably don't even know it.
753
00:27:04,389 --> 00:27:06,992
I think a lot of,
754
00:27:06,992 --> 00:27:08,927
Jason Dale class with Blackhawk Florida's
755
00:27:08,927 --> 00:27:09,828
probably doesn't realize
756
00:27:09,828 --> 00:27:10,695
how much he's taught me
757
00:27:10,695 --> 00:27:11,763
just by being around him
758
00:27:11,763 --> 00:27:12,697
and seeing different things.
759
00:27:12,697 --> 00:27:16,501
Mike Dittmer, Daniel Boone,
760
00:27:16,501 --> 00:27:19,871
Lenny Hall, I learned from,
761
00:27:19,871 --> 00:27:20,772
what's the guy's name?
762
00:27:20,772 --> 00:27:23,174
Is passed away a long time ago.
763
00:27:23,174 --> 00:27:27,679
I can't remember the guy's name now.
764
00:27:28,213 --> 00:27:30,849
but but and, you know,
765
00:27:30,849 --> 00:27:31,616
not and not forget
766
00:27:31,616 --> 00:27:33,451
not not I know you thinking of,
767
00:27:33,451 --> 00:27:36,287
I wasn't around him as much.
768
00:27:36,287 --> 00:27:37,656
I learned some things from Dave
769
00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:42,127
Mars, like, I, I absolutely did.
770
00:27:43,061 --> 00:27:46,064
No, I yeah, yeah, yeah.
771
00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:47,832
so I, I'm very great.
772
00:27:47,832 --> 00:27:50,669
And I tell you what,
773
00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:52,737
listen,
774
00:27:52,737 --> 00:27:53,538
I was going to get to that I'm
775
00:27:53,538 --> 00:27:54,906
talking about on the floor.
776
00:27:54,906 --> 00:27:58,343
But but but, Every day I give the gift
777
00:27:58,343 --> 00:27:59,944
to you. Yeah.
778
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:04,082
Every week.
779
00:28:04,616 --> 00:28:05,183
So I'm.
780
00:28:05,183 --> 00:28:05,884
And I'm grateful
781
00:28:05,884 --> 00:28:06,818
for every single one of them.
782
00:28:06,818 --> 00:28:08,420
Every every one that I learn from them.
783
00:28:08,420 --> 00:28:09,888
I'm grateful for and, and,
784
00:28:09,888 --> 00:28:11,489
and one way or the other,
785
00:28:11,489 --> 00:28:13,958
I told them, or I will tell them,
786
00:28:13,958 --> 00:28:16,928
but before I'm done. So.
787
00:28:16,928 --> 00:28:17,996
But pay it forward, man.
788
00:28:17,996 --> 00:28:19,097
Pay it forward to someone else.
789
00:28:19,097 --> 00:28:20,065
Be grateful for it.
790
00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:23,068
And having gratitude is so important.
791
00:28:23,468 --> 00:28:25,470
God real. I.
792
00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:27,605
just, the letters?
793
00:28:27,605 --> 00:28:30,575
I, I get stops and letters,
794
00:28:30,608 --> 00:28:33,611
emails and texts and stuff that we get
795
00:28:33,745 --> 00:28:36,748
from training and doing the shows
796
00:28:37,115 --> 00:28:38,450
that people will take the time
797
00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:39,784
and say, hey,
798
00:28:39,784 --> 00:28:40,985
you know,
799
00:28:40,985 --> 00:28:42,787
show was cracking me up and everything,
800
00:28:42,787 --> 00:28:45,790
but I learned this or
801
00:28:46,524 --> 00:28:47,559
when I get somebody
802
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,494
who's doing a job or something
803
00:28:49,494 --> 00:28:50,495
and, you know,
804
00:28:50,495 --> 00:28:51,996
we help them out or something,
805
00:28:51,996 --> 00:28:54,799
and they send us a quick note like,
806
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:56,801
thank you. I mean, this thing went great.
807
00:28:56,801 --> 00:28:59,270
I mean, how jacked up
808
00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:01,339
do we get when that happens? I mean,
809
00:29:02,307 --> 00:29:04,309
we're like schoolgirls, right?
810
00:29:04,309 --> 00:29:07,312
But.
811
00:29:07,312 --> 00:29:08,413
Now it looks like we just did
812
00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:10,482
this whole show.
813
00:29:10,482 --> 00:29:12,951
To do that for free.
814
00:29:12,951 --> 00:29:14,886
What do we.
815
00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:16,488
It's not about us.
816
00:29:16,488 --> 00:29:19,491
believe me,
817
00:29:24,896 --> 00:29:25,830
So, anyhow.
818
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:28,833
what I meant was when you
819
00:29:29,901 --> 00:29:30,535
Yeah.
820
00:29:30,535 --> 00:29:32,537
No, I know what you mean.
821
00:29:32,537 --> 00:29:33,238
it's not.
822
00:29:33,238 --> 00:29:35,473
I don't think that it's
823
00:29:35,473 --> 00:29:37,909
a little thing because,
824
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:40,612
you know, you and I,
825
00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:42,380
it ain't about the money,
826
00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:43,114
you know what I mean?
827
00:29:43,114 --> 00:29:43,648
But, boy,
828
00:29:43,648 --> 00:29:44,749
when somebody sends you
829
00:29:44,749 --> 00:29:47,619
something, a nice note or whatever.
830
00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:49,387
Boy, that does mean a lot.
831
00:29:49,387 --> 00:29:51,389
Well, and there's no greater satisfaction
832
00:29:51,389 --> 00:29:52,490
than seeing somebody
833
00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:54,793
that that come up in the trades
834
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,428
and, and see their progress
835
00:29:57,428 --> 00:29:58,830
and to see that, that
836
00:29:58,830 --> 00:29:59,697
they've, they've gotten
837
00:29:59,697 --> 00:30:00,565
better through their own.
838
00:30:00,565 --> 00:30:01,699
I'm not saying we,
839
00:30:01,699 --> 00:30:02,200
you know,
840
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,468
we haven't had anything to do with it
841
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,136
or not with whatever.
842
00:30:05,136 --> 00:30:06,504
But just see a young kid
843
00:30:06,504 --> 00:30:08,106
start off in the trade,
844
00:30:08,106 --> 00:30:09,374
you know, getting his first year
845
00:30:09,374 --> 00:30:09,841
or whatever
846
00:30:09,841 --> 00:30:12,076
and learning it and then getting better,
847
00:30:12,076 --> 00:30:13,444
buying it, then,
848
00:30:13,444 --> 00:30:15,180
then maybe see him by another band
849
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:16,347
or you see him, you know what I mean?
850
00:30:16,347 --> 00:30:17,248
And now he's progressing
851
00:30:17,248 --> 00:30:18,316
and doing this type of work
852
00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:18,917
and what have you.
853
00:30:18,917 --> 00:30:20,752
That's very gratifying. And you want to.
854
00:30:20,752 --> 00:30:21,953
Yeah. Paid to do it on a bag.
855
00:30:21,953 --> 00:30:23,188
Go man. Congrats man.
856
00:30:23,188 --> 00:30:24,889
That's pretty pretty cool.
857
00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:25,790
and some people
858
00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:26,791
some people will surprise you.
859
00:30:26,791 --> 00:30:28,660
Never count anybody out.
860
00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:30,295
I have for. I tell you what.
861
00:30:30,295 --> 00:30:31,896
I never count anybody out.
862
00:30:31,896 --> 00:30:34,098
I remember a kid,
863
00:30:34,098 --> 00:30:35,066
young guy,
864
00:30:35,066 --> 00:30:37,735
and and he called with a lot of questions
865
00:30:37,735 --> 00:30:39,070
like, oh, man,
866
00:30:39,070 --> 00:30:40,738
this guy's getting it, man.
867
00:30:40,738 --> 00:30:42,340
And I kind of lost track of him.
868
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:43,408
And like, seven years
869
00:30:43,408 --> 00:30:45,977
later, he's got 7 or 8 vans on the road.
870
00:30:45,977 --> 00:30:47,812
He's very successful.
871
00:30:47,812 --> 00:30:49,380
And you're a son of a gun man.
872
00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:50,148
Good for him.
873
00:30:50,148 --> 00:30:52,283
He hung in there and he got it.
874
00:30:52,283 --> 00:30:54,919
And, no, not all the green lights
875
00:30:54,919 --> 00:30:56,688
come on at the same time for everybody.
876
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:57,288
You know what I mean?
877
00:30:57,288 --> 00:30:58,656
The path isn't always a straight,
878
00:30:58,656 --> 00:30:59,557
linear path.
879
00:30:59,557 --> 00:31:00,391
I mean, a lot of times
880
00:31:00,391 --> 00:31:01,125
there's there's dips
881
00:31:01,125 --> 00:31:02,293
and valleys or whatever.
882
00:31:02,293 --> 00:31:03,795
Some people get it quicker and others
883
00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:05,964
some of them have easier pass and others.
884
00:31:05,964 --> 00:31:07,265
But by and large, if,
885
00:31:07,265 --> 00:31:08,867
if you hang in there
886
00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:10,401
and, and, and work at it
887
00:31:10,401 --> 00:31:12,303
and try to learn and,
888
00:31:12,303 --> 00:31:14,472
like we always say,
889
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,241
You know, you
890
00:31:16,241 --> 00:31:16,474
have you
891
00:31:16,474 --> 00:31:17,475
have 20 years experience
892
00:31:17,475 --> 00:31:18,710
and you just relive in that first year
893
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:20,311
over 20 different times,
894
00:31:20,311 --> 00:31:20,812
you know what I mean?
895
00:31:20,812 --> 00:31:21,779
That you keep learning
896
00:31:21,779 --> 00:31:23,181
and try to try to get,
897
00:31:23,181 --> 00:31:24,949
you know, get better than the day before.
898
00:31:24,949 --> 00:31:27,785
And I'll, I'll tell you if I, if I get
899
00:31:27,785 --> 00:31:30,588
if I can say that I, that I
900
00:31:30,588 --> 00:31:32,490
one thing that I'll,
901
00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:34,158
I will say about myself
902
00:31:34,158 --> 00:31:36,928
is that I know for a fact, you know,
903
00:31:36,928 --> 00:31:37,829
I don't know,
904
00:31:37,829 --> 00:31:38,796
I don't
905
00:31:38,796 --> 00:31:40,298
whatever key to success or whatever.
906
00:31:40,298 --> 00:31:41,299
But I will tell you this.
907
00:31:41,299 --> 00:31:42,066
I will tell you beyond
908
00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:42,700
a shadow of a doubt.
909
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:44,569
I think that has helped me
910
00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:46,371
beyond everything else.
911
00:31:46,371 --> 00:31:47,538
Every day I get up,
912
00:31:47,538 --> 00:31:49,040
I try to make this day
913
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,208
better than the day before.
914
00:31:50,208 --> 00:31:51,743
I try to get better, I try.
915
00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:53,344
I'm always trying to get better,
916
00:31:53,344 --> 00:31:54,679
and I'm always trying to learn a way.
917
00:31:54,679 --> 00:31:56,080
I'm not the smartest guy in the room,
918
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,482
there's no doubt about it.
919
00:31:57,482 --> 00:31:59,951
But I will work at the craft
920
00:31:59,951 --> 00:32:01,386
and I will eventually get it
921
00:32:01,386 --> 00:32:02,887
and try to improve upon it
922
00:32:02,887 --> 00:32:04,389
and appreciate what I what
923
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:05,857
I learn and keep going.
924
00:32:05,857 --> 00:32:08,059
So anyhow,
925
00:32:08,059 --> 00:32:09,160
I do love the notes
926
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,361
that you sent over here.
927
00:32:11,896 --> 00:32:14,899
The transitioning into retirement notes.
928
00:32:15,233 --> 00:32:15,566
yeah.
929
00:32:15,566 --> 00:32:18,569
And I didn't want to make this a.
930
00:32:28,479 --> 00:32:29,113
Yeah.
931
00:32:29,113 --> 00:32:31,983
932
00:32:31,983 --> 00:32:33,251
that's why I'm not big on.
933
00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:35,954
I'm not big on it, man, I, I, I,
934
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:37,622
I work as long as you can, man.
935
00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:39,524
I think and and and here's,
936
00:32:39,524 --> 00:32:42,527
well, here's what I'll say about that.
937
00:32:43,528 --> 00:32:44,862
I think you have to enjoy the journey
938
00:32:44,862 --> 00:32:47,465
because, you, when you get to the end
939
00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:48,766
and then there's like,
940
00:32:48,766 --> 00:32:49,467
all right, there's nothing.
941
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:50,268
Now, you know what I mean?
942
00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:50,435
Well,
943
00:32:50,435 --> 00:32:52,670
so all that to get there
944
00:32:52,670 --> 00:32:53,705
and maybe the end is
945
00:32:53,705 --> 00:32:54,539
as good as you thought.
946
00:32:54,539 --> 00:32:56,074
So I'll tell you,
947
00:32:56,074 --> 00:32:59,077
one of the best, episodes in my life
948
00:32:59,077 --> 00:33:00,478
is when we first got married
949
00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:01,446
and we lived in a 340
950
00:33:01,446 --> 00:33:03,748
square foot apartment.
951
00:33:03,748 --> 00:33:05,650
actually, it wasn't even an apartment.
952
00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:06,351
It was, it was,
953
00:33:07,452 --> 00:33:08,119
It was a.
954
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:09,053
House behind
955
00:33:09,053 --> 00:33:12,056
their regular house, above a garage.
956
00:33:12,523 --> 00:33:15,994
and in fact, when the lady that own
957
00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:17,195
the house would go downstairs
958
00:33:17,195 --> 00:33:18,296
to start a Volkswagen,
959
00:33:18,296 --> 00:33:19,263
the fumes would come up
960
00:33:19,263 --> 00:33:22,033
through the house, and,
961
00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:23,468
and the whole house
962
00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:25,937
would smell like, exhaust,
963
00:33:25,937 --> 00:33:29,941
and a 340ft².
964
00:33:29,941 --> 00:33:32,377
And, when I look back, I mean, that's
965
00:33:32,377 --> 00:33:33,544
why I had very little money.
966
00:33:33,544 --> 00:33:34,345
She was going to school,
967
00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:35,980
and I was just starting out and,
968
00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:36,948
but that was one of the best
969
00:33:36,948 --> 00:33:38,316
times of my life.
970
00:33:38,316 --> 00:33:40,952
And,
971
00:33:40,952 --> 00:33:43,955
So, you know, enjoy the journey.
972
00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:45,823
So.
973
00:33:45,823 --> 00:33:46,224
the journey.
974
00:33:46,224 --> 00:33:48,693
You know, it's weird,
975
00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:50,261
is
976
00:33:50,261 --> 00:33:53,164
all, how many people
977
00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:55,033
that I played softball with?
978
00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:56,501
Hockey.
979
00:33:56,501 --> 00:33:59,504
Went to school with, worked with,
980
00:34:00,438 --> 00:34:01,906
you know,
981
00:34:01,906 --> 00:34:03,808
for that long?
982
00:34:03,808 --> 00:34:05,376
I graduated in 1980.
983
00:34:06,911 --> 00:34:07,879
It's amazing how many
984
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:10,882
people I know It's amazing if.
985
00:34:10,915 --> 00:34:13,418
It's amazing you graduated.
986
00:34:13,418 --> 00:34:16,421
Oh.
987
00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:23,461
Yeah.
988
00:34:23,461 --> 00:34:25,296
There's there's amazing,
989
00:34:25,296 --> 00:34:26,330
that you said
990
00:34:26,330 --> 00:34:29,333
that the people that are retiring.
991
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,403
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
992
00:34:32,703 --> 00:34:34,105
They said one of the happiest
993
00:34:34,105 --> 00:34:34,872
guys I know.
994
00:34:34,872 --> 00:34:37,875
995
00:34:38,876 --> 00:34:39,310
Yeah.
996
00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:41,579
Oh, that's a fact.
997
00:34:41,579 --> 00:34:42,580
Yeah.
998
00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:43,781
I mean, these are guys,
999
00:34:43,781 --> 00:34:45,349
you know, like I said, I've
1000
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:46,717
known these guys all my life.
1001
00:34:46,717 --> 00:34:49,720
Well, my wife retired Yeah.
1002
00:34:53,291 --> 00:34:53,925
When I,
1003
00:34:53,925 --> 00:34:54,425
some of the,
1004
00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:55,626
some of the best, coolest,
1005
00:34:55,626 --> 00:34:56,961
happiest dudes I know in
1006
00:34:56,961 --> 00:34:58,763
my life are in their 70s
1007
00:34:58,763 --> 00:35:01,766
and one guy, 84 years old, still working
1008
00:35:01,866 --> 00:35:05,169
and the most, really just energetic.
1009
00:35:05,169 --> 00:35:07,138
Got good guys, happy guys, happy
1010
00:35:07,138 --> 00:35:08,406
that they're that what they're doing
1011
00:35:08,406 --> 00:35:09,273
in the everything.
1012
00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:11,742
And, so I don't know, man, I don't know.
1013
00:35:11,742 --> 00:35:12,777
I just thought we'd talk about.
1014
00:35:14,412 --> 00:35:16,814
from the
1015
00:35:16,814 --> 00:35:19,317
the notes that you sent over.
1016
00:35:19,317 --> 00:35:20,852
This is just cracking me up.
1017
00:35:20,852 --> 00:35:21,686
Yeah. You're right.
1018
00:35:21,686 --> 00:35:22,153
No way
1019
00:35:22,153 --> 00:35:22,954
we could have done a show
1020
00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:25,857
about how to retire
1021
00:35:25,857 --> 00:35:27,558
more, how to stay alive.
1022
00:35:27,558 --> 00:35:28,559
Here's this.
1023
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:29,794
Even for people
1024
00:35:29,794 --> 00:35:31,162
who choose to retire,
1025
00:35:31,162 --> 00:35:33,464
saying goodbye to their career
1026
00:35:33,464 --> 00:35:36,334
doesn't always bring happiness.
1027
00:35:36,334 --> 00:35:39,337
Some feel
1028
00:35:56,020 --> 00:35:59,023
Well.
1029
00:35:59,323 --> 00:36:02,326
So.
1030
00:36:03,127 --> 00:36:04,028
Yeah.
1031
00:36:04,028 --> 00:36:06,063
So keep working.
1032
00:36:06,063 --> 00:36:09,066
Yeah.
1033
00:36:13,704 --> 00:36:14,105
Yeah.
1034
00:36:14,105 --> 00:36:17,108
Yeah.
1035
00:36:17,108 --> 00:36:18,042
Yeah. Yeah.
1036
00:36:18,042 --> 00:36:19,343
That's that's why I say man.
1037
00:36:19,343 --> 00:36:22,346
1038
00:36:24,782 --> 00:36:27,051
Yeah.
1039
00:36:27,051 --> 00:36:28,419
All right.
1040
00:36:28,419 --> 00:36:28,819
All right.
1041
00:36:28,819 --> 00:36:31,822
So anyhow just to recap
1042
00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:35,560
know who's retired.
1043
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,295
You know, my buddies.
1044
00:36:37,295 --> 00:36:38,829
The best thing to happen to their
1045
00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:39,430
golf game.
1046
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:41,766
They're all unbelievable golfers.
1047
00:36:41,766 --> 00:36:42,633
Now.
1048
00:36:42,633 --> 00:36:45,636
Yeah I, I'd rather dig a ditch and golf.
1049
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:48,873
I'm, that's, I'm not that guy, man.
1050
00:36:48,873 --> 00:36:51,008
I, I don't want to, I just,
1051
00:36:51,008 --> 00:36:52,910
I just do anything for me, man.
1052
00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:53,778
love golf.
1053
00:36:53,778 --> 00:36:56,047
And then it's funny,
1054
00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:57,348
you know, in the text chains
1055
00:36:57,348 --> 00:36:58,950
and everything.
1056
00:36:58,950 --> 00:37:02,086
they they feel
1057
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,856
about golf in the same way you feel about
1058
00:37:05,856 --> 00:37:06,190
Yeah.
1059
00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:08,125
Yeah, I oh, I totally
1060
00:37:08,125 --> 00:37:09,493
oh, I believe me, I get it.
1061
00:37:09,493 --> 00:37:10,394
I mean, I totally get it.
1062
00:37:10,394 --> 00:37:12,063
It's just not for me.
1063
00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:15,066
so.
1064
00:37:16,801 --> 00:37:19,637
No, no.
1065
00:37:19,637 --> 00:37:21,239
yeah.
1066
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,206
Yeah, I'll fish for sure.
1067
00:37:22,206 --> 00:37:24,008
I, I will not like for things to do.
1068
00:37:24,008 --> 00:37:24,575
I mean,
1069
00:37:24,575 --> 00:37:25,042
but that's
1070
00:37:25,042 --> 00:37:26,877
a long way down the road anyhow.
1071
00:37:26,877 --> 00:37:27,678
All right.
1072
00:37:27,678 --> 00:37:29,747
So, anyhow, what we wanted to say
1073
00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:30,982
basically, if, if,
1074
00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:33,017
you know, for everybody,
1075
00:37:33,017 --> 00:37:35,453
this came about because of 40 under 40.
1076
00:37:35,453 --> 00:37:39,223
And, I really think, you know, really
1077
00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:41,025
not of respect to the guys
1078
00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:41,826
that have been in the trade
1079
00:37:41,826 --> 00:37:43,394
for a long, long time and,
1080
00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:44,695
and maybe don't get the fanfare
1081
00:37:44,695 --> 00:37:45,630
they deserve when they,
1082
00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:47,098
when they get out of the trade.
1083
00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:49,734
Hey, if you want to recognize somebody,
1084
00:37:49,734 --> 00:37:50,167
shoot us
1085
00:37:50,167 --> 00:37:50,868
some information,
1086
00:37:50,868 --> 00:37:52,236
give us a little bit of background
1087
00:37:52,236 --> 00:37:53,004
about them,
1088
00:37:53,004 --> 00:37:55,373
and we'll we'll mention them on the show.
1089
00:37:55,373 --> 00:37:56,874
and the second thing
1090
00:37:56,874 --> 00:37:59,377
is, the mentoring thing,
1091
00:37:59,377 --> 00:38:00,077
maybe
1092
00:38:00,077 --> 00:38:01,746
if someone has been a mentor to you
1093
00:38:01,746 --> 00:38:03,047
over the years,
1094
00:38:03,047 --> 00:38:05,616
maybe a carpenter you worked with
1095
00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:06,884
or a distributor guy
1096
00:38:06,884 --> 00:38:07,785
behind the counter
1097
00:38:07,785 --> 00:38:10,121
or sales guy or whatever.
1098
00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:10,388
maybe.
1099
00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:11,222
Nice to give him a,
1100
00:38:11,222 --> 00:38:11,589
you know,
1101
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:13,457
anybody who doesn't like an atta boy
1102
00:38:13,457 --> 00:38:15,426
man a pat on the back. And thank you.
1103
00:38:15,426 --> 00:38:17,061
It's some Rick. Rick
1104
00:38:18,229 --> 00:38:18,929
recognition.
1105
00:38:18,929 --> 00:38:19,930
It's a tough job, man.
1106
00:38:19,930 --> 00:38:20,498
No matter what
1107
00:38:20,498 --> 00:38:21,565
where you are in this industry.
1108
00:38:21,565 --> 00:38:24,035
So nice to get back a little bit.
1109
00:38:24,035 --> 00:38:25,002
All right, so there you go.
1110
00:38:25,002 --> 00:38:25,936
There's been another episode
1111
00:38:25,936 --> 00:38:27,738
of On the Floor with Wayne and Rob.
1112
00:38:27,738 --> 00:38:29,373
Please stay tuned for another episode.